USED REVIEW: Vauxhall Corsa-e - is Vauxhall’s bargain baby worthy of your cash? | Electrifying

[@decimal1815]

Looking forward to more videos about the used EV market. Would be good to see detailed information about battery health on these cars in addition to the usual cosmetic stuff. 👍

[@gordonmackenzie4512]

I would imagine those selling would give the health state whilst advertised, or on demand. It’s no more difficult or complicated than a smart phone to find out.

[@lozkko]

​@@gordonmackenzie4512not really, some people enjoy messing around with Kan-ze or other software, but most drivers have no idea. Anyway, unless it is a first gen Leaf, or has insane amount of miles (charged mainly on CCS rather than mainly at home) it is a non issue.

[@javelinXH992]

I don’t have a dongle, so can’t be precise but after 54,000 miles and 3 and a half years, my Corsa has lost less than 5% based on range estimates. Not very precise I know, maybe I should get a dongle. Anyway, in the real world, this is an unnoticeable change. Feels to me that up to 50,000 miles battery degredation is trivial in this car. If I bought again today, I’d be happy to buy a second hand one and pocket the money saved on petrol. In my case I save about £1200 on fuel, so each year the car gets better value to own. It was a scary jump to make, but the maths said it was the right thing to do in my use case and after 3 years, I can say the maths was right. MG4 is probably a better new car though now at this price point.

[@decimal1815]

@@lozkko ..or of the car has been left for weeks on 0% charge, or at 100% charge.. which is possible if people are clueless (or don't care because it's a lease car..)

[@decimal1815]

You can get a used 2020 Corsa-e for around £10k in the UK, but I'd be cautious about expensive replacement parts on out of warranty Stellantis, such as the on board charger. MG 4 is still much more expensive at the moment as the cars are in warranty for a few more years.

[@tSp289]

Just bought an Elite Nav Premium

[@mikadavies660]

Amazing to think, it used to be a Zoe or a Leaf.... Now there is a good number of other brands that are now hitting 3 years old... and they have lost 50% to 60% of their showroom prices. I think they are bargains!

[@Peoplestariff]

brilliant review :) I don’t want too many people to know about this bargain before I buy one lol

[@Madonsteamrailways]

I’ve been driving an electric car for three years!! My car is a little Renault Zoe that I leased three years ago. My next car will be a small camper. It’s a Vauxhall Combo Life Electric with the Wheelhome Vikenze III camper conversion in it. The reason for that is that I’ve always wanted a camper and this is my chance!!

[@ajward137]

Two minor niggles: 1. It isn't easy to reverse park unless you have the reversing camera! Both my wife and I struggle to back it down the drive to charge - and we both have more than 30 years driving cars. Something about the lines makes it awkward to reverse accurately. 2. Indicated range is inaccurate and way too high - and suffers greatly in the cold. In the summer, best range is about 170 miles. In the winter, closer to 120. Other than that, good, reliable EV. No battery degradation after 40,000 miles and 4 years.

[@sebastiansandvik825]

Incredible how quickly used car prices go down in the UK. Here in Finland a used Corsa-e with 50 000km from 2020 would be about 23 000 euro. That's 50% more than in the UK, even though the price was the same as new.

[@richardlphillips]

That's really interesting and I feel pretty lucky that's the case as I'm about to get a user EV.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

I think it is more to do with the fleet market here in the UK where once they come off the lease there is a glut of used vehicles and so prices drop. It's not all cars but those like vauxhall often are great bargains secondhand. Jaguar ipace is another one, loads of ex fleet ones about means a 3 year old one can be picked up for about £25k when its over £70k new. Absolute steal.

[@richardlphillips]

@@MrDAVIDATKIN I'm sure you're right.

[@Yesterzine]

@@MrDAVIDATKIN Yeah, years ago I bought an Ex-fleet petrol Corsa. 6 months old. 5000 miles. Half the new price. Because it was on a car supermarket that had 100 of them at the same price and I walked round the lot of them to find the best. The supermarket didn't care, they'd have bought them all even cheaper in bulk.

[@stevebeever2442]

Can buy a brand new corsa e for the same price in the UK

[@hellcat1988]

I wish this had been, and still wish it was available over here, across the pond. Those prices and that millage make them exactly the car that I've been demanding for over the last 5 years.

[@nickgrew8168]

We bought a 21 plate Corsa e in September 2023. It broke down 10 days later on the M3. Still not fixed. Apparently it needs a whole new main Battery and that's waiting to be manufactured some where in France. From chatting to the garage this is not an isolated problem. You have been warned!

[@spawnterror]

LMAO Go to EV forum and there is not a single person with this issue among thousands of members. Consider yourself very unlucky.

[@thelaserhive3368]

Bargain. Actually I think that the used EV market has now ‘normalised’. People recognise that the new prices of European EVs were artificially high and the second hand market now has enough for them to be at the right level. It means that the less wealthy now truly have access to sensibly priced cars - and that’s a great thing. I jumped in with a used E-Golf last month and I’m loving it. So much choice now!

[@brianiswrong]

As people have said, The current state of the battery life should be a mandatory display on every ev. Then as a used buyer we would have some idea of what we are buying and its current battery life condition.

[@Brian-om2hh]

It's simple enough to test the battery state of health using an OBD via the car's diagnostic socket. This can provide a print-out of the battery state of health in percentage terms.....

[@lew7676]

The car is okay, it’s not amazing in any area, but the biggest problem is the dealer network, after owning a couple of Corsa-e’s it was the dealer that was the biggest let down, certainly in the part of the uk I live. Also Stellantis are closing lots of dealers so the choice of dealers is becoming limited on choice. So make sure you do your homework on local dealer reviews before committing to a purchase.

[@TheOnlyJizz]

Battery state of health is the single most important piece of information used buyers want to know if they're going to be confident of switching to an EV.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

Virtually all EVs have a 8 year/100k mile battery warranty. If it drops below 70% in that time it will be repaired or replaced, so not really an issue until it is either old or has done high mileage. Of course the manufacturers wouldn't offer such good warranties if they weren't confident the cars wouldn't do at least that.

[@riaz8783]

It's a shame there's no regulation to force manufacturers to put this info on the display (even if buried in a menu). Nissan Leaf does it.

[@71kimg]

@@MrDAVIDATKINyeah - so what after that ?

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

not sure what you mean. What happens after 8 years, is that what you mean? Same as happens with every older car. What happens with an ICE car when the warranty runs out and the engine blows? Fortunately EVs are a lot more reliable than fossil cars as can be seen by the amount of old Nissan Leafs, Zoe's and Teslas still out there with 100k plus miles on them. The batteries these days are expected to last longer than the car. Average age for an ICE vehicle before scrapping is about 14 years and I expect EVS to be equal to that if not better@@71kimg

[@bernardhilton3527]

I bought my 20 plate Corsa elite nav just before covid broke out and could only take delivery in June 2020. The retail price was a smidge over £32k. But I didn’t pay that. Vauxhall were giving a £2k discount and the government were giving £4.5k as a grant. So that is £25.5k… The dealership I bought the car from gave me a very good trade in on my diesel Juke and I got a free wallbox so I was quids in. Disappointingly it would appear that my ballon payment would be more than the car is worth so I am just going to hand it back. Why didn’t I buy an e208? That is an easy one, I don’t like it. I think those black flared wheel arches look plug ugly. One aspect of the Corsa that still brings a smile to my face is that the zero to 30 time is about 2.8 seconds. Enough to leave many a posh car owner fuming..😺😺😺. Finally the 220 mile wltp range is achievable in warm weather. Why am I not keeping it? I want a bigger battery. Finally the matrix LED headlights are phenomenal. I will miss those. Finally finally the battery is liquid cooled so you can forget about any significant battery degradation. A bargain second hand car if ever there was one.

[@chasf3433]

Great value but at 3 years old would be out of the manufacturer's warranty. If Stellantis want to boost end of lease residuals then they really need to offer at least a 5 year warranty on the whole car.

[@duncanbuchanan218]

Good point, do 5 years on the Corsa E only. It will be distinctive and that will support residual values (maybe allow owners of the E to buy another year warranty of £20? The E is cheaper than the petrol automatc Corsa normally too, so these are cheapest autos you can get.

[@gordonmackenzie4512]

I see You’ve hit 100k 😀 congratulations 🥳

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

Just bought a brand new Corsa E for under £20k. Has to be the EV bargain of the year

[@andrewgage6942]

I prefer the look of the early Corsa over the Peugeot alternative or the latest Corsa, would I buy one? Not only could I not afford one, even used, and as I don't have access to off road parking, I can't have a home charger, the running costs are considerably higher than running my 13 year old diesel which at present costs me around £17-23 a week to run, I have a 60 mile daily commute, 80% of which is motorway mileage which this is not really designed for, if the cars were cheaper, public charging costs were less and we had the infrastructure, I would definitely be in the market for one, but in reality, they're not priced for the average working person, public charging is too expensive and complicated to use, and, as someone who is not credit worthy so therefore can't get a credit card or a bank card, as someone who pays with cash, I'm not eligible to own an electric vehicle

[@danielrichards8472]

Rather than massively depreciated cars they’re at the price they should be as they’re way over priced brand new

[@ajward137]

Nature of the car industry to milk the early adopters!

[@royobanank9868]

It's taken the price down to what a petrol 3 year old Corsa would be at that trim level, so it's a more realistic price. It's a big hit if your selling privately though.

[@tracksevenuk]

I would strongly recommend avoiding this car. We have a 2020 plate and have owned it for about 14 months, it’s been in the garage 3 times with major faults and we are potentially facing a bill of nearly £4000 to fix it. Vauxhall sell these cars but have no way of fixing them properly. Stay clear!

[@patrickh7368]

What’s happening with the Renault 5e that appeared on KZbin about 2 years ago..? Whilst we on the subject of French cars… 🤔

[@martinday2815]

Music in the background made hearing you talking, difficult.

[@ashb8572]

More used EV content pleaseeeeee

[@daveg1250]

0 to 60 in how may seconds?

[@autoclearanceuk7191]

8

[@markruitenbeek]

Finally an advantage of driving on the wrong side of the road: British cars aren’t so easy to export, so prices drop quickly!

[@djtaylorutube]

Lots used to go to Cyprus but oh 2016 morons sorted that.

[@tshikosiphathutshedzotshik1396]

Since Britain drives on the same side as its former colonies, why can't we (South Africa) have the Opel Corsa-e?

[@Madonsteamrailways]

How about the camper I mentioned? I bet it’s a good little buy. I’m not 100% sure, but the Combo Life looks like a Corsa estate!!

[@BMWHP2]

An EV. 1 of the main features should be a usable range that can compete a bit with ICE cars. In the 21th century, there probably would be very few ICE cars sold that only have a 10 litre fuel tank, that can only do 120mls in cold weather. I love small EV´s, specially 2-door hothatches, cabrios or coupes, but an EV needs at least a 200mls real world range to compete with any ICE car.

[@decimal1815]

But you can charge your EV at home while you sleep, so the range is not really an issue for most people...

[@darrenwallis7630]

Just out of interest, how often do you drive 200 miles without stopping?

[@BMWHP2]

​@@decimal1815 I know, but the Smart Cabrio we have, we use for all trips. Every month short 300 mls trips to Germany or Belgium. We take an hotel for 3 nights and make trips in the region. And 2 times a year further to Austria or Swizz. That is over 600 mls one way . . . and 7 days in that region. With the Smart it is no problem, but with an EV that can only do 100mls . . . . . do the math.

[@BMWHP2]

@@darrenwallis7630 The Smart Cabrio we have, we use for all trips. Every month short 300 to 400 mls trips to Germany or Belgium. We take an hotel for 3 nights and make 150ml trips in the region. And 2 times a year further to Austria or Swizz. That is over 600 mls one way . . . and 7 days nice trips in that region. ( it would take us 4 days just to get there with all the charging every 100mls, and 4 days back.) With the Smart it is no problem, but with an EV that can only do 100mls . . . . . do the math. And even in the Netherlands, we often do 1 day 200 mls trips. Family, friends or just a visit to an old town. Maybe you noticed . . . we dont work anymore.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

For yourselves with the type of trips you do an eCorsa wouldn't suit. It wouldn't suit me either which is why I own a Polestar2. 300+miles in the Summer and about 220+ on a really cold winter's day, 10-80% in under half an hour. I quite often do trips in excess of 300 miles and would have no problem doing 600 if there was a need. The latest P2 goes even further and charges faster. There is something for everyone out there@@BMWHP2

[@vpnconsult]

It's conciderd an crapbox in the Netherlands.

[@AppleUK2000]

Prefer the Peugeot 208, has more allure

[@paulrosberg2637]

Strong NO!

[@vitspinka1]

Lost half the price in 3 years? That's a reason why NOT to buy a new EV. Fingers crossed this is not a generic EV issue, that it's just the Corsa-e. Overpriced when new, fleet purchases, etc.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

It used to be the case for virtually all cars, many still do especially like is mentioned in the video for ex fleet cars where there are a lot to get rid of after the 3 year lease is up.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Buy a BMW 3 series, and Audi A4 or a Merc C class, and they'll all lost 50% of their value in around 3 years and 30 to 35k miles.....

[@Brian-om2hh]

Most people *lease* a new EV rather than buy it, for exactly that reason..... Try buying most new ICE cars, and you'll find they lose 50% of their new cost in 3 years too....

[@computerbob06]

I always hate lines like "it would charge from 10 to 80% in just 26 minutes", when this is really just a best case scenario (that will never happen) and will it really stay at 100kw all the time?........... No! Of course not!

[@djtaylorutube]

Given that the charge curve is programmed, from those set points at a suitable charger, that's exactly what it should do. However, rock up at 30% and try to go to 100% and yes, it will be different. Charge curves are available to review online.

[@ashb8572]

That's exactly why i would wait from a used MG4 long range to drop in value! It gives a flat rate of 143kw from 0 to 52% regardless of what SoC you arrive with. And gradually tapers down, not dropping off a cliff suddenly

[@mirop8864]

@@ashb8572 if you can handle the poor quality and bad service of MG4

[@NIKOinIRL]

No child seat for the teddy?😂

[@MrGMawson2438]

My dad had a Vauxhall Corsa Years ago it was a 1.5 Turbo D

[@alanwayte432]

And ?

[@MrGMawson2438]

@@alanwayte432 just saying

[@Maceyee1]

Car salesmen that say really good nick makes me auto cringe.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Lithium iron phosphate batteries are good

[@MrGMawson2438]

New Renault 5 EV looks good

[@ISuperTed]

Yes it’s dropped so far that it might tempt some people. However considering an e208 isn’t a lot more and beats it in every way then I wouldn’t get a Corsa-e. Even a good Zoe would beat it. Too bland a car for me.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

I disagree that the Zoe is a better car. Although the battery is a little bigger on the Zoe, the Zoe's battery is air cooled while the Corsa's is liquid cooled and that means the Corsa can be DC rapid charged twice as fast. The Peugeot e208 is a better looking car without a doubt but secondhand you will be paying quite a bit more for the same spec, mileage and age. I know I'm looking for one for the better half currently.😮

[@guillodean]

Bargain? O-kay then...

[@luccafusco8960]

I have one it’s shit stay away

[@StevenHaggis]

Diabolical range on the Corsa. Less the 90 miles in the winter!

[@darrenwallis7630]

Less than 90 miles in the winter?? I have an e208 and, unless you’re driving with a lead foot, you’re simply wrong…

[@christopherhuggins5167]

Less than 90 miles in winter? Are all those miles up a hill? In my Corsa E I can comfortably do 125 miles in winter and still have 15-20 percent charge left and no that wasn’t in eco mode with no heating on either.