Electronic Drums at The UK Drum Show 2023

Showcasing all of the electronic and hybrid drums on exhibition at The UK Drum Show 2023 with hands-on impressions of the DWe, Evans Hybrid Sensory Percussion, EFNOTE PRO, EFNOTE 3X, Roland D-FLUX and more!
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[@OliKember]

Great meeting you at the show at the Jobeky workshop. Lovely summary here. I didn’t get into the DW room, had no idea! Looks lovely. Excited to hear more about that. (Braces for price tag…) Cheers!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

It was great to meet you too, Oli! The DWe room wasn't that obvious at all. I think they were keeping it reasonably low-key since it hasn't launched yet, but maybe too low-key if some people didn't know it existed!

[@demonicsweaters]

That DW kit is something else!

[@mogglie]

I thought the same. And we didn’t even hear a single note. Haha. Perhaps it has always been that simple for electronic drums. They just didn’t look good. Away with cables and in with proper drum shells. And. Here we are problem solved.

[@drumswitheri]

Can't wait for the new DWe. I know it is going to be at a hefty price but seems worth it!!!!

[@anupotaktos]

Everyone "We finally cought up with Roland" Roland "Let's make a spaceship"

[@Justin-xk7yj]

Did the cymbals, hi-hat and toms feature positional sensing?

[@ratrat9]

Nice!!!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks! 🙏

[@grooveincorporated]

Great video Luke. How did you find the stick noise of the DW metal cymbals? My Field metal cymbals rarely get used now as they are just too noisy compred to rubber?

[@pistolpeteOH]

I have three Field crashes, a ride and HH. Those DWe cymbals look just like the Field crashes meals but wireless. Wonder if they’re working together? Have to say I love my Field cymbals for how they play and look on stage. They ‘click’ when hit doesn’t seem to be noticed on stage.

[@jezusmylord]

the cymbals on the DW wireless drums look really chunky in a bad way to be honest.

[@gomezed7]

The feel on the cymbals is horrible. I played them last week and it’s like having vinyl records as cymbals. All other aspects of the DWe kit are great!

[@rs9217]

My mannn… let us hear the DW kit 🥁

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I couldn't record the audio, sorry!

[@Worldpaintedblood-md2fw]

Is this every year event? Is it still going on or the event is finished already? Thanks

[@thedeevineswebenquiries]

It is every year over one weekend and yes it's finished now

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yeah, it's a yearly event. It was earlier last year (April), but I think this is the usual time for it. Used to be in Manchester but moved to Liverpool last year. And yes, it was just Saturday and Sunday, so it's over now.

[@iplaywithsticks6194]

Thank you. Well done. As the industry holds their breath to the new DW kit and what the merger with Roland will bring, it should be an interesting 2024!

[@PhatSimey]

Great walk through, Luke, really excited about the upcoming DWe kit!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you 🙏

[@M123OCT]

With regret, no electronic kit sounds exciting. Electronic kits are NOT to drums what electric guitars are to acoustic guitars. You can sample all you want, you can boast of touch and dynamics, but they sound shit, shit, shit. Zero feel and zero excitement. Practical for home practice. That's it.

[@NOAHCASAS]

I'D NEVER GET AN ELECTRIC DRUMS I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MUCH I DISLIKE / HÄT3 THAT SOUND THEY GIVE OUT THE WORST THING I SEE IS OVER HEAD MICROPHONE OVER RUBBER CYMBALS THAT WAS STUP!D

[@mfnuggy]

Any updates on the Mandala V3 pad’s? I saw the posted on instagram the other day saying there’ll be a limited production run soon but no updates on the pads themselves

[@CrappyProducts]

So my biggest gripe with the Roland VAD are the cymbals. How did the DW cymbals felt like? Were they acoustically loud?

[@Spierdalajyoutube]

It's nice additional thing but acoustic drums will never be replaced. 😏

[@seanwolpin4017]

As usual, your video was very informative and entertaining. Thanks for bringing us the latest info. You rock!

[@mickeyscott7479]

I don't care what E-kit I hear or play, I hate the sound of the cymbals.

[@djashjones]

That pu55y pad kit from Roland looked interesting.

[@jezusmylord]

I wonder how many actual differences there are between EFNote and ATV to be honest.

[@simondrew8641]

That Roland hybrid kit took me back to my DDR-30 with triangular pads. It was released in 1985. Those were the days back when Simmons was dominating the electronic drum business.

[@M123OCT]

Why. Are. You. Speaking. Like. A. Robot? 😂

[@RC-gf8cs]

Still have my 06 yamaha dtx3 xtreme with black pads rite b4 they went 2 white..2 sat speakers n bass amp..still sounding and playable great .b 67 now playn since 3rd grade .

[@wmcmps]

Looks like I need to paint my 1987 Roland PD-31s red and I'm along for the ride again.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Everything comes back around eventually 😂

[@yuwinx]

Someone please give me some contact information I want to go to this place. Please give me some like flight details or something I wanna go. I definitely wanna go

[@cronkitepercussion]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the acoustic sized e-kits more for the audience than the drummer? If I'm going to bring my e-kit to a gig, I appreciate the relative lightness of an e-kit.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

There are two trains of thought when it comes to electronic drums, really. Some people want them to be just like an acoustic kit but with volume control, more sounds available at one time with the same sizes and aesthetics (and that could be for their own preference or the audience's); others want to use them for their benefits, whether that's size/weight, the fact that they don't have to be anything like acoustic drums etc. So it really depends on who is playing them and what they want from them!

[@bluemagneticnight]

How are you gonna talk about kits but not have audio from any of the kit

[@DigitalDamnation]

Thanks for the walkthrough. I will put it in my calendar to go next year. Cheers!

[@ChristopherWice]

That EFNOTE PRO kit looks impressive.

[@CraigShawCraigShaw]

Electronic drums should not look like acoustic drums imo. Just like electric cars should look different. I prefer the kits that look really different.

[@djashjones]

I agree with you but the majority prefer the VAD series compared to the KV.

[@LDdrums20]

That was awesome! Thanks fo sharing!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 🙏

[@andrums93]

this DW kit is really getting my attention... Was planning to upgrade to the FNOTE PRO but I think this DW kit would be a better choice ....

[@josephkaminski1857]

all junk, Hit the drum with a stick. NOW just Rest a stick on the drum while hitting it with another stick. there is no difference in sound on e drum. Yet there is on real drum. . In the real world, people hands are not perfect alternating strikes so sometimes when you are hitting a drum on a real drum your stick upstroke and other stick downstroke can create that same overlap situation in high seed, especially when doing flames and double or triple stroke rolls. That situation of sticks movement overlap is variable in minuet detail. It is that stick overlap of impacts that causes a drum that is real, to have BREATH sound. That can never be reproduced with a E drum. Still don't believe me? go play a E drum with brushes. See if you can get it to sound like brushes...the brushes, are hundreds of tiny sticks all doing that same thing to the drum head I explained. Figured it out yet?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Incredibly condescending and quite reductive! But if I was to believe you want a genuine discussion, I agree that chasing "true" acoustic replication with electronics will be nigh on impossible because there are characteristics that are hard (or not possible) to replicate without the physics of an acoustic drum. But I don't believe that means there's no merit to electronics (whether approached like the kits in this video or not), or that there aren't other improvements that could continue to close the gap between the two, if desired. I'm sure some of the things you've outlined could be achieved with the right trigger tracking, behaviour modelling and sample set. Whether that will happen is a different matter. You could apply this same negativity without perspective or context in reverse, tool - you can't just switch to an entirely different set of sounds with an acoustic kit at the push of a button, you can't easily change up the dynamic response of an acoustic instrument without also changing its sound and characteristics, you can't play acoustic drums practically silently without dramatically affecting its sounds or feel, etc. There are benefits and trade-offs with either option and to act like differences are only failures that result in "junk" isn't particularly useful.

[@josephkaminski1857]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop electronic drums are very bad for players. Very bad. They dilute the senses to real drums and to real hand movements. They all use normalization internal to the units that can not be adjusted or removed. This is part of the triggering system that uses something called hysteresis. I know more about them than most people alive. When Drum normalization takes place and it does on every hit, it involves the artful adjustment of audio levels to a standardized reference point, as well as adjusting the reference point in time with relation to other triggers. this is why hybrid drums are so difficult to sell because of the offset between the real and the artificial where the computer must adjust the reference time. This adjustment throws of the human senses. you get use to it, but it will destroy your natural meter. E drums are a disaster.

[@jezusmylord]

that mustached man in a marching band uniform (I think) was giving strong main character vibes.

[@djashjones]

Ringo Starr - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

[@jezusmylord]

@@djashjones oh thats a cosplay, nice cosplay i must say.

[@mattdrewdrums]

How would you compare the sounds and triggering of the EF Note Pro vs. DW e-drums? Also, are the sounds on the DW software on par with VSTs like EZD3 or SD3? Thanks.

[@kushking420]

That DWe kit is pretty damn cool. Thanks for the footage

[@toxicgardengnomes]

The DWe kit with a rumored price tag of $20, 000 Aud just puts it out of reach for most people but the technology is certainly game changing to say the least. It’ll be wires for a few years yet for this edrummer

[@martinel2450]

The only one I was interested in was the Roland concept kit :(

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

That's ok! Was there anything in particular you liked about it?

[@tnypxl]

I know that DWe kit is gonna cost $10K minimum

[@unclerhombus]

Facts. Why not just buy the Roland guts and throw it all on a basic, cheap kit?

[@tnypxl]

@@unclerhombus I totally agree. There is nothing special about the DW shells or hardware that makes it any better for triggering and processing in a module. But I have a hunch they are going to lock it all behind their mid-to-high-end shells and hardware packs. Either that or they're going to make you pay a yearly license fee for the software since it's basically just triggering directly into a proprietary VST.

[@jamessullenriot]

The wireless kit looks interesting but I wonder what the cost will be? Also, seems like it would be good for playing out but for me, I only setup at home so once my wires are locked in and organized, I'm fine. To me, a great setup out of all the pieces here would be a JObeky kit, Roland module, and a VST.

[@DrewShreveDrums]

I’m really looking forward to you doing a deep dive on the Evan’s Hybrid SunHouse system. I was an early access user since last winter and it’s truly revolutionary, the way they completely rebuilt the software from the ground up vs V1 is next level.

[@thejawshop-AdventureRecording]

I just learned a pile from this, thank you.

[@TJ-eq6dl]

Roland/DW kit is the next generation,the bar has been re set.the future is bright)

[@Aiafati]

Sucks that EFnote still hates Canadians.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hopefully they'll manage to roll out there soon. If it's any consolation, it took a long time for them to have a presence in the UK, it's only very recent. So it might give you some hope!

[@ImSueeb]

No just no

[@ChontosDrumLessons]

I’ve been waiting for this video! 🎉

[@ngaugeblading9690]

I only found out the drum show was on a few days ago after it finished. I was gutted as I only live about 20 minutes from Liverpool. Hopefully its in there again next year

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Ah that's a shame! But it should be, it's a yearly event!

[@jezusmylord]

Always love Justins Namm videos every year so this is a treat!

[@pietro-viecelli]

Man! I wasn't sure it was actually you so I didn't stop you.. 😂 I quite liked the EFNote kits, quite responsive and sound very good out of the box!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Ah, maybe next year! I thought so too!

[@steevidrums]

Hey Luke, great video. You know, I was half planning on coming to this on the Sunday (as I didn't have a gig) but decided not to. Shame, looks like it was the best every for edrum representation. No Yamaha this year though.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hey Steve! Thanks! Yeah, notable absence of Yamaha and Alesis. Yamaha had a good year last year so I kind of understand, but it's a shame they weren't in amongst it if only to keep their kits in everyone's minds! Looks like their prices have dropped recently too.

[@mikaellarsson785]

I have been waiting for this video since I heard that DW was there with DWe this year, and I thought. You would go.😊 Great video. Thanks Looking forward to more on DWe soon.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks 🙏

[@wouldstock1]

Awesome job! Wish I could've gone to that!

[@alexhykes3319]

I am wondering if Roland will put an additional update to the Td-50x again or if there won’t be any until the Td-70 appears…

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I'd be surprised if they go with another update rather than a new module, but I can't be sure!

[@dwdrum11]

The efnote and dw actually sound like real drums, the jobeky sounded like an e kit.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Bear in mind that the Jobeky kit isn't responsible for the sounds, the Roland TD-27 module is!

[@einarabelc5]

The Ef drums sounded the best to me. Much better than expected. Is it better than the Pearl mimic pro?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Personally I think the Mimic pips it because it has a really large core library and you can now load your own multi-layered samples (or those taken from other software), so it's close to limitless in potential sounds. There's probably fewer sample layers on the EFNOTE sounds too so rolls on the snare sound a little less natural, but it still felt great to play. The Mimic also has many more onboard effects, such as 5 band EQ on all drums and mics, compression for different mics and a nice if simple reverb. The individual mic control is awesome for people who like to craft sounds. On the flipside, the Mimic's onboard sounds do have a very "Slate" character which some people aren't a fan of. The EFNOTE kits seem to be aiming for a more dry and natural sound character overall (though some of the modules have reverb) with plenty of tone and a "small room" vibe. They are probably closer to "plug and play" than the Mimic if you buy a full kit.

[@lucasperegrin8569]

Thanks for the updates! How did you find the EfNote 3x compared to ATV kits? I'm thinking about getting one, just love the concept

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

The EFNOTE kits feel like a very natural progression of the ATV ethos. Simple to use, natural sounds and a pretty plug and play experience when paired with their own pads. That's the modules, at least - I don't have any experience with ATV's full kits but I think it was a similar vibe.

[@lucasperegrin8569]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks! I have an ATV xd3 module which I love but EfNote has more effects sounds and ability to adjust, and those hi hats and cross stick pad look SWEET.

[@KrisIsAwesome]

"Designated loud time" 😂 love it

[@TKbeatwerk]

Saw you in the gewa booth!

[@TinoSchulz1990]

DWe will probably be THE e-drum kit i always dreamed of. And finally they pulled the trigger to make their triggers work wirelessly. That alone is such a game-changer. No more fiddeling around with cables. Just setup like a real drumkit, start your laptop and your good to go. So promising

[@funkynavigation]

Great to meet you at the show Luke

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Great to meet you too, Daren!

[@SchwappSchwopp]

10:32 what kind of market though?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

There are quite a lot of people who prefer the SPD-20's sounds over the newer 30 but wanted an updated feature set, so the Pro fills that niche. I believe that the original SPD-20 was very popular in the Indian market too and that Roland added a bigger focus on Indian percussion to the newer sounds that were added alongside the old ones. So I think those are the two main demographics (that may also overlap) that this pad is aimed at.

[@SchwappSchwopp]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop makes sense, thx for your fast reply :)