Eliminating Throttle Issues with the CFMoto 800MT for $30!!!!!

[@nickbertoz]

Mate this has made a world of difference thank you for the video

[@seanobrien5520]

@@nickbertoz hi , I'm really interested in this mod , iv done the O2 sensor delete and it made a huge difference to the lean condition between tick over and 3000 rpm,, will the evaporation system delete help the on/off throttle sensation above 3000 rpm , getting back on the power mid corner in 3rd gear feels too snappy , will it cure this ?

[@Peripolo11]

@@seanobrien5520 if i need only low RPM fix, like 1/2 gear under 1000-3000 RPM, is than the EVAP fix sufficient?

[@seanobrien5520]

@@Peripolo11 it seemed to have sorted mine at low rpm also, riding in heavy traffic is much nicer and smoother with small throttle inputs .

[@augustbrante8117]

I had bought a CFMoto 450MT and sold it before hitting 1000 km. The throttle was so darn twitchy! Watching with a ton of interest. I know when I made my suspension softer it made it better. bcs every crack I rode over reverberated to hand on throttle and would jerk me around a bit! Glad it worked!!! Maybe I should have waited!

[@seanobrien5520]

I removed the evaporation charcoal canister and and plugged in the Smartmoto resistor , it has transformed the throttle sensitivity on the bike ,, no more "on off " jerky throttle,i also removed the 0² sensors and used the Smartmoto O2 delete kit ,, now the bike is smoooooooth as butter. Highly recommend these 2 mod's.

[@grayf3861]

can u send link please? do you know if it works with 800nk too?

[@seanobrien5520]

@grayf3861 I'd imagine it should,, I can't do the link thing,, but if u Google SmartMoto Electronics you should find your bike model there on their website.

[@spatarogiuseppe3616]

Will installing the EVAP kit and the O2 sensor delete kit worsen fuel economy??

[@seanobrien5520]

@@spatarogiuseppe3616 I haven't noticed any change in the fuel economy,, I'm using 5.8 litres per 100 KMs since new

[@seanobrien5520]

@@grayf3861 I'm sure it will work on the NK ,, google is your friend 😉

[@SmartMotoElectronics]

Thank you for showing our product!

[@deathwish24620]

I did the evap delete and O2 sensor delete today. The evap delete didn't seem to help much at all, but I did notice an improvement with the O2 delete. Nothing spectacular, but any improvement on this bike is worth the effort.

[@thePom]

Great work mate. Pick my bike up in a few weeks and will refer back to this if needed.

[@denisvincent3249]

Great video mate. Thanks for sharing. Yes, the jerks drives me nuts as well. I was interested to hear when you change gears. It was a lot smoother.

[@AdamND701]

Thanks for the video. I just got mine in the mail today. I love your bike in all black, btw. Ive crashed twice because at really slow speed it was so jerky it just took out from under me. I couldn't even grab the clutch in time so just let go.

[@index6738]

Might want to do throttle relearn procedure. Solves snatchy jerking throttle.

[@800Adventures]

@@index6738 have done and made no difference, it's not the snacthy throttle it's the jerky fuel mapping when putting at slower speeds and keeping the bike at the same RPM it just starts to jerk and surge. The throttle is sensative but you get used to it

[@dazznutts]

Do you have to remove the canister can it be left connected

[@dr3wize]

Great video! Think i might try to make my own 'kit', just need to find the right connector and value of resistor! Cheapest kit Ive found in UK works out as $45aud! If you could measure the resistor for us youd be a legend!

[@dr3wize]

Looks like it's a 2 pin Bosch style ev1 male connector (for anyone else interested) Now I just need to work out the resistor! Guess I could just measure the solenoid? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@800Adventures]

@@dr3wize I have been thinking about it, you could leave the whole solenoid in the bike and just disconnect the hose and plug it and extend the breather hose. The solenoid should only throw an error if it's removed. Would be an interesting test anyway

[@dr3wize]

Just to follow up on this, I plugged up the ports on the throttle bodies and left the pipe off the Evap canister venting to atmos, kept the solenoid plugged in etc... just to test... Took bike out for a few hours and it's so much better!

[@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides]

I’m with you mate it spoils the bike I’ve got a video coming out soon and on a descent of a hill you can hear it lurching. I’m a very experienced and qualified rider but it still in nerves you slightly when it starts Like I said earlier you will wait forever for a map update from China they are too busy launching new bikes.

[@angelorizzelli9336]

Ciao e sempre complimenti per i tuoi video dai quali prendo sempre spunto...quest'altro nuovo video è uno di quelli...potresti rispondere e descrivere quali ulteriori modifiche hai sulla moto e qual'è il reale miglioramento di questa modifica? Grazie grazie grazie

[@grayf3861]

Is the hose needed? Can't we leave it open just like that? Or with the screw on?

[@akalduwais]

Did you have any problems with the new exhaust? I’m thinking to get one

[@atekcompany8307]

Hello from Greece, do you know if the cf 800MT explore has an indication of the outside temperature on the screen?

[@800Adventures]

@@atekcompany8307 Na it doesn't unfortunately

[@atekcompany8307]

@@800Adventuresthe touring has it, is it possible that they removed the temperature sensor in explore?or maybe it was added in some screen upgrade in the future?

[@stevesane800]

Great stuff & cheap fix. Why was the radiator hose leaking? Is the hose a tad short & just going over the tube bulge? Was this happening because of slow dirt runs & the fan continuously running on & off in high temps? Will you be keeping an eye out on it when summer eventually gets here?

[@800Adventures]

@@stevesane800 I definitely will be keeping an eye on it, yesterday I did alot of dirt riding at high RPM and Nil leaks. I just removed the clamp tried to tighten it a bit and hasn't leaked since, have done alot of KM since this mod and Nil leaks. I'll keep an eye on it as the weather heats up and if required I'll change it to a proper hose clamp.

[@rady6404]

This problem is caused by heat from the pipe to the exhaust. The KTM has the same problem. They change the plastic elbow to an aluminum one. Insulation would probably help too.

[@seanobrien5520]

Hi Seán here from Ireland, another fantastic video , iv recently done the O2 sensor delete kit from the same company (SmartMoto Electronics) and it made a real good difference to the low rpm lean condition , can i use this evap delete together with the 0² sensor delete also ?

[@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides]

I want to do the same so would be interested if it’s ok to do

[@seanobrien5520]

@@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides probably lose the warranty but I'll be doing it anyway,, it's a fantastic bike and will be even better when the throttle is sorted,, euro 5 emission regulations are some bullshit

[@seanobrien5520]

Anymore updates on this mod ? Is the bike still running good ?

[@JohnT81]

Hi! Recently I notice your video which are very interesting and informative. Do you know if this part fix the same issue with CF 450 MT? Thanks in advance. Continue the great work 💪

[@alfaholicsgreece]

Yes it working with 450MT too.. The kit is compatible with the following models : CFMoto > 450 MT/NK/SR-S/CL-C > 2023 - 2024 CFMoto > 700 CL-X Heritage/Sport/Adventure > 2021 - 2024 CFMoto > 800 MT Touring/Sport/Explorer > 2022 - 2024 CFMoto > 800 NK > 2023 - 2023

[@andriejusradcenko2895]

Hi. What sprocket did you install? Did it increase power on low rpm? I suffer from weak low rpm power.... Didn't get clearly what were you talking about gears and rpm regarding sprocket. I don't need much speed, but I would like to have more power at low rpm. I suppose sprocket is the answer? And does this plug - method have any result on power managing? Thanks!

[@bluedog9601]

Mate, do you know how to piss off that map on the CF800?

[@spatarogiuseppe3616]

NOTE: Will installing the EVAP kit and the O2 sensor delete kit worsen fuel economy?? Or will it stay the same. Thanks

[@800Adventures]

@@spatarogiuseppe3616 EVAP shouldn't change it as your not changing any sensors just re routing where the fuel vapour goes. I am not sure about the O2 kit as I haven't don't it and probably won't as I have no reason too unless it's just for testing. But very happy the way the bike rides now

[@MarcoPi-pq5kg]

For better understanding (i am a noob). In this video, you started for CHANGING the evap, but at the end you completely remove it? Removing the EVAP is it legal or affect in some ways the moto usage?

[@charliebaz86]

In the video you mentioned 8mm joiner and 6mm hose but the links you provided were for an 8mm hose... Did it still work for you or did you end up using an 8mm hose in the end with an 8mm joiner?

[@800Adventures]

@@charliebaz86 used the 6mm hose, it was flexible enough to get over the 8mm joiner

[@grayf3861]

a few questions, 1. does this work with 800nk, cos anything below 40-50km an hour and it's very twitchy and jerky. 2. does this void the factory warranty? 3. another guy commented regarding 02 delete kit, do you think it'll help?

[@samoksner]

Someone commented that it was compatible with the 2023 800nk but I suspect the O2 is different, (single cylinder vs twin) but I would also venture a bet that someone on the KTM 790 side has that solved also.

[@patrickdavis7815]

did it help at lower speeds 1st and 2nd...thanks

[@800Adventures]

@@patrickdavis7815 yea has helped so much!!!

[@campyc1]

Hi. How do You set up full screen map? Thanks 😉

[@800Adventures]

@@campyc1 in the settings there is display options and can choose between 2 different styles

[@campyc1]

@@800Adventures Thanks

[@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides]

Mate did it stop it snatching between 3 and 4 k revs. I’ve just ordered an O2 delete kit to try and fix it. I’ve got a local guy with a dyno who is a KTM specialist band he wants t re mapping my ecu But if what you did works I will try that. The O2 delete kit hasn’t arrived yet. I’ve ended up putting my original de cat back on to give back pressure to help with the O2 sensors as I believe it was running to lean and may have damaged the pistons.

[@800Adventures]

@@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides I have ridden about 550km this week since doing the mod last weekend and it definitely transformed the bike. It doesn't surge while filtering through traffic at low speeds and feels like a totally new bike. I still have the same exhaust on it with the small sports cat and the fuel dongle. I did remove the fuel dongle for one trip this week and seen the air fuel ratios spike to 15ish which was fairly lean so I put it back in which settled it back around 13. I'll have to look back over log data to see if it was correct and having hight air fuel ratios.

[@gkhodgins]

2600klm ride since I fitted evap delete kit jerky throttle and surge all fixed

[@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides]

@@800Adventures I’ve not done the air fuel dongle that helps aswell does it. What vid was that on mate I will check the link out

[@800Adventures]

@@ivanrushtonthelonewolfrides I did that with the decat pipe so it doesn't lean out. I then swapped back to the cat pipe with the small cat in it but kept the dongle. How many KM are you getting out of a tank?

[@800Adventures]

@@gkhodgins Thanks for the info it has transformed the bike!!

[@WogsRus1]

Wanser what they woild say about warranty? Side note, there is a new fule map that was released in septemwber 2023 but need to be draler installed. I had to ask for this direct from cf moto importer.

[@MichaelDiviny-v9b]

Where do I get this? What do I look for, evap delete kit?

[@800Adventures]

@@MichaelDiviny-v9b the link for the item is down in the description

[@petermlakar879]

Hard to belive, but could be, EVAP adds fuel and jearks up fuiling at low RPM? Question, do you need the delete kit? Can't you just plug off throttle body piping and reroute evap exit to the catchcan?

[@800Adventures]

@@petermlakar879 yea I was thinking about that the other night and it should work just leave the solenoid hooked up. Run the vent pipe down and plug up the throttle body pipe.

[@petermlakar879]

​@@800Adventureswould be intresting to see how mutch nasty stuff wold be in a catchcan

[@petermlakar879]

Also wondering if EVAP make fueling problems, there something in SW cannot be right, yust saying

[@mermerac]

Euro emissions killing all the fun out of bikes and cars.

[@toomwag94]

Hey! Hi from Argentina. I just got my 800 Explore and i saw that you have in your dashboard the map completing de full screen. Is that coming by defualt in the OS 1.00.41? Thanks!!

[@FaroukNaimi]

It’s on the 1.00.61 you should update by connecting the bike to wifi

[@charliebaz86]

Some countries/dealers may not get the latest updates. You may want to contact your dealer to get the latest. It was a pain in Singapore.

[@rady6404]

I am also considering this simple modification. Has anyone had experience with the modification and has the problem been resolved?

[@alfaholicsgreece]

Many people comment above the issue fixed

[@angelorizzelli9336]

Ciao e sempre complimenti per i tuoi video dai quali prendo sempre spunto...quest'altro nuovo video è uno di quelli...potresti rispondere e descrivere quali ulteriori modifiche hai sulla moto e qual'è il reale miglioramento di questa modifica? Grazie grazie grazie