Elizabeth Holmes, CEO of Theranos, in Conversation with Sal Khan

[@agustinmoralesrodriguez1242]

It doesnt matter where you start watching. Every single presentation she makes looks exactly the same.

[@WRCWPLX]

Great point!

[@safdarakbari]

What amazes me is that she survived 16 years without having to go live with a technology that actually did what she claimed it did

[@bonjovirocks24]

Exactly!

[@westindiesgalfruits2335]

Right 🤔

[@franriding6473]

Nda's and having powerfull people as board members. We can't tell anyone are secrets otherwise our competitors will steal them.

[@TheVertigoalley]

@@TruShibes Agree, but someone with so little background in medicine, laboratory science, and engineering is unlikely to make breakthrough technologies in a highly competitive field.

[@WolfieLovesDaddy]

Fake it till you make it

[@stevereichert1292]

Notice that she answers every question in this interview. When she was recently deposed she answered, "I don't know" over 600 times.

[@emmaevans7011]

In retrospect this interview must be humiliating for all involved.

[@pete6705]

She caused humiliation for a whole lot of people. She really didn’t have a single doubter or skeptic in the media pre-2015. They all thought she was a genius/hero. There were tons of skeptics in the medical community, but no one ever asked them

[@captainpawpawchannel]

@@pete6705 journalism gets worse and worse, lots of cons in journalism too

[@lynnross3990]

With only $2.50 per test, she's planning on slaves to run the company.

[@loveblue2]

I would think it would be for everyone who stood up and rained accolades of awe, honor and respect on her. I would literally have withdrawn to live in a cave in the woods for awhile.

[@firdosvohra4315]

This was literally right before WSJ broke her story. She's hiding many secrets in this interview.

[@safdarakbari]

F Vohra they could not do less than 10 out of over 200 tests she claimed they did with their own machine

[@leukdagen11]

Hiding secrets and lying outright throughout.

[@hzhu8686]

I blame her parents for “taking it so seriously” when she thought she was designing a time machine at age 9. She said many times that her parents made her feel that there is nothing she cannot do....including stupid things and dishonest thing. Confidence only works with wisdom, not stupidity.

[@moonchildpink5525]

H ZH delusional comes to mind. We all must live in reality & can not create a new " peridiam " for the entire world.

[@socksumi]

This was back in the day when adults would spare no effort to raise a kid's self-esteem; even lying to them and fawning praise where it's not deserved. So a generation of kids grows up with false sense of themselves thinking they can do no wrong. What's the harm?... Elizabeth Holmes is text book example. She's the kind of monster that kind of thinking creates.

[@bahmanvr3094]

Based on what you say tesla was a stupid person too.

[@bahmanvr3094]

@Kapil Lakhlani That's true and in some rare lives is a great thing.

[@franci.f.]

Ok true, but we are all responsible for our own mistakes and blaming parents is something I don't accept when someone lies so much. There is no good reason to steal money from investors that could better use those money and fake results to patients. Someone may say she s crazy so she don't deserve to stay in prison but she perpetuated criminal conducts.

[@umersheikh9870]

So many people and institutions feeling absolutely idiotic today

[@Sills71]

The very idea that more medical testing was even a good idea was wrong. Americans don't need more testing. Americans need to exercise, eat better, lose weight, stop smoking and drinking. Taking more tests and thereby being prescribed more drugs is not going to achieve anything beyond further enriching the pharma and medical industries.

[@horaciocapanelli-soto4710]

I agree. Americans also need to deal with their emotional issues. Those issues are a big part of the bad health our country suffersZ Mental health has a big impact in our physics health.

[@pupasarus]

Applause

[@michaeljordan5639]

I'll be right back I need a smoke

[@ferociousgumby]

Her voice is a lot higher in this one! Almost like normal. I just listened to another one which sounded like she'd just chugged testosterone.

[@lyndahadley2951]

Lol!

[@stephaniesamra7960]

That’s what I thought. 🤣

[@JewandGreek]

45:00 "What do you imagine Theranos to be like in twenty years?" A defunct organization that serves as a reminder to maintain scrutiny and regulatory oversight of startups from college dropouts in the biomedical field.

[@Foxie635]

To make this world a better place? Start with being a good and honest person.

[@franci.f.]

I have worked in the startup world since 2008 and I have to admit that less someone knows about a certain topic and more he/she is able to be recognized as a "visionary" and more people follow her/him. Because it's a world full of ignorant young arrogant "dreamers" that ridicule real experts who spent years studying and practicing in that field(scientists, lawyers etc).

[@theresachung703]

Francesca such insightful comment.

[@gabrielgonzales5907]

Yes, it's like what's called the "Dunning - Kruger effect."

[@sca8217]

When it does work, you get a Steve Jobs. When it fails, as it does more often than not, you get this mess.

[@meganallday]

Very true. People are sadly dismissive and sceptical of experts there days.

[@StopMoColorado]

So many fawning DUPES! Theranos never revolutionized anything but VC-hustling...so sad.

[@ferociousgumby]

Now being compared to a Ponzi scheme.

[@k.chriscaldwell4141]

I can't get enough of watching this psychopath. Her money grubbing lies about caring mixed with her wide eyes trick and affected voice is just incredible. _"Ignorance is Strength." I'm weak._

[@patlnina17]

Blue eyed blond.

[@brysonwest93]

Same here! Not sure why. Except maybe I'd like some of that charisma.

[@steamedhamlet]

I like that she dyes her hair and wears copious amounts of make-up bit wants to convey this image of a plain nerd that wears black because she doesn't care what she looks like... and that grating baritone voice. So many stories are saying she really believed in this project but she never did she just wanted to be "the next big thing" and didn't give a crap about real patients' suffering and treated them like guinea pigs. Fake from top to bottom.

[@Otis-Tank]

In the context of context, her use of the word context was out of context within the means of context, through the context, allowing the context to create the context.

[@nancydrew1882]

She says the same thing in every interview, yet she takes a 1000 years to get her answers out. What a buffoon.🤨🥴

[@easystreet1888]

I will shed no tears for Elizabeth when she's led out of the courtroom in handcuffs.

[@tjsogmc]

She did make it 16 years before somebody actually thought about asking if the product worked or not. As a scammer, she's got to be the best who ever lived.

[@stephaniesamra7960]

They did in particular the Walgreens or was it Walmart- 1 of them wanted to see the lab and that was no go area!!! And then they gave her 125m dollars.

[@robertj5208]

Walgreen

[@meganallday]

Trump

[@WRCWPLX]

45:20. Where do you see "THERANOS" in 20 years? Answer:. "Totally dissolved for defrauding investors, which consequently will have caused me to face criminal charges, but because I'm so smart, I would have come up with the idea of "duping" an heir to marry me and immediately have a child with him while facing criminal charges in order to create sympathy among the jury and the judge to AVOID going to prison, because it would be INHUMANE to send to prison a mother of a newborn baby! Once I walk free, then I would have divorced my DUMB, but rich husband, so I can take HALF of his fortune; at that point, after FOOLING everyone, I will have created "THERANOS 2.0" and continue the process of "DEFRAUD, DEFEND, WALK FREE, REPEAT"!

[@laurasogliuzzo3072]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@bonjovirocks24]

Her tagline “never having to say goodbye too soon, to someone you love”. People didn’t challenge anything further than thinking she could stop death. Crazy.

[@jojob285]

exactly, she was inventing an integrated testing device and not some sort of revolutionary medicine that will cure cancer..but she made it sound like that.

[@loveblue2]

That particular quote of hers drives me crazy. I lost my mom to complications from Alzheimer's in 2009. Even if she had lived 300 years, I wouldn't have been ready to let her go. We're never ready to lose a loved one, which makes that stupid quote of hers meaningless. Can't you just picture her rehearsing that line over and over in front of a mirror, like she's known to have done in those days? She's the only person I've ever heard of who actually rehearsed her bs. The fact that she actually got away with something of this magnitude, that involved SO MUCH MONEY and for so long just astounds me. Her September 2022 sentencing should be interesting.

[@bonjovirocks24]

@@loveblue2 YES!!! WHAT YOU JUST SAID!!! I’ve never been ready for “saying goodbye”, which I rarely got to actually say to most people I loved who passed away. I’ve only been able to say that to a few pets over the years, after exhausting every single chance, medication, surgery, food changes (which they never ate), subcutaneous fluid therapy, thousands of dollars that I spent & gladly would have paid quadruple, if it meant more time. Death is inevitable but it’s beyond painful, no matter how long you have. As you succinctly stated, 300 years still wouldn’t be enough time!! I’m so sorry to hear about your Mom. 💔💔 Overwhelming grief is so painful. Elizabeth is a narcissistic sociopath. I can picture her rehearsing that shit over & over in the mirror, until she wasn’t smirking. She’s a floating turd in the toilet that should have been flushed down long ago. The fact her CRIMINAL sentence is delayed until September 2022 is yet another crime in itself. I have lost faith in the justice system, as she will likely get a “Lying Jussie Smollet” sentence... in & out of jail within hours, to wait for an appeal. Meanwhile, the people she harmed, including patients, doctors who may have had malpractice lawsuits, investors & folks who were qualified for awards she received- all of these people are victims. As Elizabeth “danced”, she still believes “you can’t touch this”, without any remorse or empathy, let alone, REAL consequences so far. 🤬🤬🤬

[@redmed10]

She never mentions that her father worked for Enron. She knows what information will help her and what will hinder her.

[@MochaHammy]

Brutal 😂😅😂

[@robertbrown380]

@@MochaHammyhe was too busy being a saint saving people in the killing fields of Cambodia.

[@prometheus5700]

I love this. Watching a true criminal talk (bullshit) herself up to the legend she is in her own mind. With 3 semesters of college under her belt, and more ego and hubris than you could fit into Oracle Arena, forward march. Then the bunco scheme surfaced. Steve Jobs? Try Bernie Madoff.

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

She was always coaxed by interviewers to play up her legendary status, despite never understanding any of the details that supposedly made her one.

[@annvroom5539]

in these PR sit-downs she always has the same biographical narrative that she spins - but in these settings she always left out any mention of her key, long-standing, intimate relationship with Sunny Balwani, both professionally and personally in the inception and evolution of Theranos - but, boy oh boy, a few years later when she was sitting on the hotseat in front of SEC lawyers, "Sunny Balwani" came out of her mouth at every key inflection point of inquiry

[@3vimages471]

Go To Jail. Go directly to Jail. Do not pass Steve Jobs, do not collect $10 billion.

[@v.krishnankaushik9812]

When asked what theranos do, she respond the mission and vision of the company and not the about theranos.

[@realascanb222]

I would answer the question of what my company does, I would state the mission and vision. That's the point. What did you want her to say? I work for a large international company, I would have to give the short story. Not the thousands of things we do per day.

[@WRCWPLX]

@@realascanb222 When you're stating a mission, it has to be supported with the HOW that MISSION will be accomplished! I can't just say, "Our mission is to REVOLUTIONIZE the healthcare industry by "CURING" ALL types of DISEASES, REGARDLESS of the stage of progression of the disease, bla, bla, bla, bla..". Ok, sounds like a great mission, BUT how am I going to accomplish it? "Oh, it's PROPRIETARY technology that, for obvious reasons, I cannot disclose, BUT, TRUST ME, it's a great technology..". Really??? If you had been an investor, I have NO doubt you would now be weeping for that LOSS!

[@melflo4651]

Mr. Khan , I support and donate money to your organization; I will not stop doing it because of this interview. However, I hope you will be careful from now on.

[@qtaro-7097]

Mel Flo exactly! why sal?! why? u should know her tech is pure bs. lecturing me physics and bio and all 😭

[@banjo2019]

She’s a genius, at using many words to say very little.

[@AntLox]

Chemistries.

[@jamiethompson1008]

In the context of. Chemistries. Infrastructure

[@ferociousgumby]

I always found her posture annoying - the foreward hunch/bowed head. What, she's faking humility or what?

[@socksumi]

Thrusting her neck forward assists in generating that baritone voice. It's all a carefully caluclated persona she creates.

[@jestersdead6995]

She is attempting to smell her own farts.

[@safdarakbari]

She even faked her voice

[@marufio]

Her fake smiles and laughs.

[@whoisdickieschnabel]

Agreed.

[@sallyb7472]

Her worst offense is bring a baby into her world. Go through your trial if you know you are innocent then get pregnant. No, she knows she is guilty of fraud and is now using an innocent baby just as she used innocent patients for her own edification.

[@andrewashmore8000]

Well while its highly cynical she got pregnant , at the same time its also highly practical or even essential she become pregnant before the trial, she could be menopausal by the time she gets out. I dont care the lads lost 700 million im more concerned for the lives of her employees she tryed to ruin directly and indirectly.

[@Yuyayayu872]

@@andrewashmore8000 she lives in a $100 million house, she could freeze her eggs or use a surrogate. She has so much money. It is sickening.

[@carolmahoney2109]

Mark Twain's quote, It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled, rings just as true today as it did 150 years ago.

[@scoochmar]

It’s a shame Meryl Streep isn’t 25yrs younger!

[@rm-gq1nb]

Didn't she call Harvey W. god?

[@easystreet1888]

I think Jennifer Lawrence will do a great job in the film.

[@telallproductions]

I was so much in love with science I dropped out of college!

[@melaniewalker5226]

😂

[@laurasogliuzzo3072]

Hahahahahahahah the best comment!

[@jamiethompson1008]

Really in the context of Elizabeth Holmes she is only a highschool graduate by definition.

[@AndreAndFriends]

23 min. This lady cannot tell the difference between biotech & chemical engineering. Very different.

[@bonjovirocks24]

I’m blown away none of the interviewers challenged her when she didn’t answer a question. Neither did any investors.

[@seapod]

@@bonjovirocks24 neither did you. I love all the hindsight comments in here like yall would've known..LOL! Ok

[@csours]

Thank you for preserving this recording.

[@commonwealthclubworldaffairs]

Our pleasure!

[@jaredneilsen]

Great point! Many publishers would have removed this out of shame of association - classy move Commonwealth club

[@lynnross7513]

The essence of the con is not just ripping off investors, but playing with people's lives. That's the psychopath in her: talking about sick people who have flown to Arizona to go to her Theranos labs, or the quadriplegic who they pricked the nub at the end of his "arm." She never talked about the moment in research when her lab supposedly succeeded in this incredible discovery. That's a big missing link in the story. Any scientist wants to describe the moment of success. She would rather talk about the Girl Scouts and empowering little girls; another phony story, since her board consisted of males. Not to mention more vulnerable ones in their nineties, despite their life experience where they should have known better. She doesn't answer the question how she succeeded without knowing anything. Khan asked this good question, but didn't follow up and let her get away with continuous non-answers. I hate weak interviewers, because it only results in a soft marketing plug for a business, and worse if it's a fraud.

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

Lynn Ross Exactly. She was the master of pulling heart strings with hard luck medical stories. Missing from her soliloquies was how early detection was expected to pan out. She implied that it would change health care, but never addressed specific diseases, except diabetes. She at least twice mentioned a 17 year lead time marker for pancreatic cancer, claiming having done some work with researchers at Hopkins, but no such research was ever published. Yes, inventors share their experiences. No one ever asked her to discuss details of the invention process. He came closer than anyone to challenging her technical competency. She evaded questions about their technology, turning them around in a way that enabled her to replay her favorite talking points about fear of needles, finger pricks, access, convenient, low cost tests, and wellness centers’ spa-like ambiance. The ‘story’ that the media kept repeating was that she must have hit on something big because she had raised lots of $, had a distinguished board, was in cahoots with Walgreens, and dressed like SJ. Skeptics were dismissed as shills of lab industry incumbents.

[@groundcontrol436385]

"She never talked about the moment in research when her lab supposedly succeeded in this incredible discovery." You know in all my reading and obsession with this craziness I never thought of that point. It's an excellent point. So often it IS the missing element that catches people up. Well done.

[@slovokia]

Elizabeth should start a new religion.

[@waynerivers3635]

slovokia the farting fraud chapel of holmes

[@cleofaspingarron]

Theranos was run like a cult

[@ferociousgumby]

She has that habit of staring without blinking, the same as Marshall Applewhite and Jim Jones and other well-known cult leaders.

[@kotare86]

Holmatology - new religion based on bullshit interpretation of bogus blood results

[@theresachung703]

This is the best idea!

[@carlosmunar]

I don't agree with everything Elizabeth Holmes's detractors say. I do not understand why it does not work in her favor a great mitigating factor: Elizabeth is not a racist woman. As proof of this, she had a long relationship with Sammy Balwani, a much older Indian millionaire, short, chubby and not at all handsome. This speaks well of Elizabeth. Likewise, she received US 25M from Carlos Slim, an old, fat, short and unattractive billionaire. Apart from not being racist at all, she also doesn't discriminate against anyone because of his nationality. .Elizabeth is a good woman. So good that a hotel chain heir much younger than her, chose her to procreate two children. Elizabeth was born into the US aristocracy, where she deserves to be. Not in a prison.

[@peterkropotkin6224]

My favorite fact about this interview is that it was published about three weeks before WSJ published Carreyrou's first article and tipped the first domino of her downfall.

[@ad_2211]

All the problems she is describing are real and absolutely worth solving but sadly as we know now her solution was mere science fiction not reality.

[@lynnross3990]

@@myrar2122 She brags and laughs that she didn't need Stanford -- while painting herself as a role model for girls to learn science. And REAL scientists have been working for years to run multiple tests. For Khan to be in "worldwide education" he seems like a really limited thinker. What an embarrassment for both of them!!

[@alfalfa2155]

It’s wild to think that this interview took place only 20 days before the Wall Street Journal article that ended her business came out.

[@WRCWPLX]

45:45. "Are you seeing anyone?" She laughs and responds in a fake manner, "Oh, that's hilarious..", while in her mind, she's telling herself, "If they only knew the COO is my boyfriend and he's banging me everyday, while I'm able to keep this image of a sweet hard working girl dedicated"24/7" to changing the world!!"

[@jamiethompson1008]

I think she was sleeping with sunny smalweeni for his money and then fired him when his money was gone.

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

I love hearing, in retrospect, as here, the lore and sheer awe of E Holmes, during the glory days of her media outreach phase. As usual, she talks about everything except the enabling tech.

[@tomchang1647]

This story is incredibly fascinating as well as frustrating. Everyone must read the book to get a better understanding of the whole issue. This interview is very interesting. I think you can actually tell when she's fabricating some of her stories to fit Sal's questions to elicit an emotional response from the audience.

[@phyllisfoster6589]

That's what good con artist do!!

[@keep-ukraine-free]

@@phyllisfoster6589 That's an oversimplification. Con artists are simple people who lack skills/intelligence to succeed -- so they resort to basic lying to survive. They're basically a simpleton. This is different. It's psychopathy. Some psychopaths are smart, but they still choose to manipulate and be predatory toward their victims, which require skills far beyond mere lying. Predators use sophistication. Psychopaths have diseased minds. Con artists don't.

[@annasanta9103]

Can we also talk about Elizabeth Holme and Theranos Legal team and also their HR team ? When I read the Bad Blood book reported by the Wall Street journal writer, it seemed like MANY MANY MANY good and professional people left the company and LOTS LOTS LOTS of turnover and MANY MANY people complain to the company of their poor management style by Sunny and Elizabeth and their terrible wrongful doing of lying to the public, investor and also the patients , but HR from Theranos never helped the colleagues , no one in HR help the colleagues that had been threaten and harassed by Sunny and Elizabeth. This is extremely harmful, should we also talk about the HR in that company ????? They should be held accountable as well !

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

Professor Channing Robertson was deeply involved as her mentor and enabler, yet we’ve not heard much about his culpability: was he duped or complicit? Randomly open anywhere and be prepared to hear one of her well-practiced platitudes. 56:40. Oooops...”you can’t compromise on quality here..it’s not a web site.”

[@theresachung703]

Frank Gutowski THIS

[@patrolmi5977]

She could be a great Scientologist leader

[@carolmahoney2109]

True, but any cult would do.

[@ghytgb]

36:00 she can’t continue the fake voice anymore and starts going with her real voice! She tries it from the beginning of her talks and then drifts back to the real voice. She’s nuts!

[@CepheiVV]

41:15 is clearer

[@Yuyayayu872]

51:28 also

[@collette3741]

@@CepheiVV omggg

[@rajs7876]

When she has to think it breaks sometimes

[@mramirez5140]

1:06:13 too so much fake boice... high to lower n keep faking still. My second day watching about her. Idk her but now I'm watching her🤨 wondered how she is in jail?😝

[@haivt5593]

This person will do whatever it takes by any means including jeopardizing dignity to get what she wants.

[@marufio]

She wants self importance and admiration.

[@deepgeny1]

She is the perfect example of confidence without clarity

[@keep-ukraine-free]

She's the perfect example of psychopathy. Dangerous, yet so adept at hiding her predatory motives.

[@telallproductions]

In the context of context She's really brilliant she just asked her parents and their friends to start it and one guy gave a million dollars to invest.

[@WRCWPLX]

At 27:20-27:25, the interviewer makes a great point and SHOULD have been a RED FLAG that trying to accomplish such goal in the healthcare industry had NEVER been approached by anyone because of the responsibility and consequences that come with it!

[@biancakaye2721]

Lord. Hysterical. No one made her show anything. She showed up empty handed to every interview. Nothing. No numbers, nothing.

[@pete6705]

This was just a couple weeks before Theranos doomsday, when it all fell apart

[@adjusted-bunny]

A cholesterol test costs hundres of $ ? I am surprised how little she knows about the diagnostic market.

[@zootsootful]

What gets me is how she deluded herself as well. Even faced with a complete lack of progress towards her stated goals, she actually thought that she could keep up this charade until the technology was attained, and that none of the brains she hired would catch on and spill the beans. Constructing that mindset is the only true feat she accomplished, and was the basis of the success she enjoyed for those few years.

[@kennethsouthard6042]

Make no mistake, a lot of the "brains" she hired were looking to get rich off of the stock options, which explains why many of them kept silent. There was no point in stopping the train. In other words, blowing the whistle would have stopped their "money train" immediately and labeled them as a "snitch" while holding off could have potentially given the tech more time to catch up or at least give them time to cash out before the implosion.

[@zootsootful]

@@kennethsouthard6042 Good point. Just goes to show what kind of world we've been living in. There's no vaccine (nor blood test) for THAT disease.

[@yiqingwen3230]

It now disgusts me looking at her talking/lying, does she know what shame is?

[@prometheus5700]

no

[@wnd9434]

Is this comment 3 years ago foresee what going to happened?

[@apogeedesign4348]

WnD many of us never believed one single word that ever came out from her non stop oral diarrhea.

[@socksumi]

You have a rare gift of perceptiveness. While the mindless hordes were fawning and worshipping her you were able to smell a rat.

[@adamkurtz5836]

The story was blown open starting about a month later in OCT 2015. Starting with an article in the WSJ.

[@TananBaboo]

First red flag is she doesn’t use any technical jargon at all throughout her talk.

[@andrewashmore8000]

Indeed or any pride in the innovation that created the new product. There was no innovation so nothing to talk about.

[@drones7838]

I can’t get enough of this chick I can’t wait until she gets locked up for a long long time

[@jamiethompson1008]

Me too. If I were the judge I would give her 20 years just for getting pregnant while going to trial.

[@stevereichert1292]

Her Father was a VP at Enron! Apple falling from tree etc., etc.,

[@richiekock8835]

My father worked in the killing fields of Cambodia and I started Theranos to help people like ma ailing uncle who I did not care for at all and am only exploiting for my own personal interest(s).. horrible human being

[@ScottLongwellR]

Holmes does an imitation of an old man. Deep voice, slow, halting speech ... curved, hunched back ... legs spread wide.

[@jamiethompson1008]

She trying to be too manly for being an iron woman

[@benitopitopol]

"I felt like i was born to do..." Born to do what?

[@LALIWOOD]

Lol…. I love how all these people put her on a pedestal for it to all be a giant fraud.

[@stephaniesamra7960]

Well nobody knew (outside world) she knew and her employees who had signed nda’s so they couldn’t talk. What to do??

[@edgehodl4832]

@@stephaniesamra7960 anyone with common sense knew it was all fake, but many CHOSE to ignore it

[@rajcan2008]

Elizabeth should have been in politics not tech.

[@guppy0112]

Or journalism!

[@CepheiVV]

Listen from 41:15 she changes her voice

[@mollycuddle9990]

Elizabeth stalking her teacher....Is there anyone in that room that doesn't think to themselves 'hmm, yeah, she slept with her teacher'. ?

[@SummerLuvr7]

51:25 Yes, Elizabeth, what matters IS your actions and yours are reprehensible.

[@gwmendel]

can i still invest?

[@jamiethompson1008]

In the context of, in the context of, in the context of, in the context of, in the context of, in the context of, in the context off, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, by definition, by definition, by definition, by definition, by definition , basic human right, basic human right, basic human right, engage , engage, engage, engage, engage. I'm learning in the context of Elizabeth Holmes that if you say these contexts over and over that you wont have to say goodbye too soon by definition.

[@panaceiasuberes6464]

Her father was an ENRON vice-president right at the time of the scam... you can't make this up. "her father worked for government agencies after serving for a time as a vice president at Enron. After Enron's demise, Christian allegedly asked for help from Joseph Fuisz's father, Richard, who let the Holmes family live in one of their homes. (Years later, Elizabeth Holmes would sue Richard Fuisz over a patent dispute.)" She sued that guy that prevented her family from going homeless.

[@joeadams1225]

Heya Panaceias, imagine them setting all this scam up and not thinking about an alert function for the patient G.P. ! Although, on reflection that would have blown the scam years ago. But still , to sue that man for exploiting a cock up in their structuring , what a piece, (right?) ☮️

[@muradtalukdar4401]

I hope Sal does a video about how to make a fake lab on Khan Academy.

[@wnd9434]

That an insult to another the descendent of KHAN.

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

Murad Talukdar He could use clips from this in a video on how to tell a fraud from the real McCoy.

[@tonymacko]

She should have used her Time Machine to go into the future to see how the Theranos machine would eventually work, brought the technology back to the present and avoided going to jail.

[@Asun888]

Jump to 41:31 to hear her higher voice

[@nancyjones6780]

Thanks for that!

[@kathykisses09]

I didn’t finish watching this interview...but does Sal ever ask her about how exactly her “innovative technology” works? He might have found her out if he had asked such a simple question.

[@qtaro-7097]

yes all these physics lessons and bio lessons that he did he could have seen through the bullshit if he did ask her. he was probably just paid to be there to make the event exciting. but damn he could check her out if he did ask abt the tech

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

kathykisses09 I watched this long ago. There is a point where he seems incredulous, perhaps during her response to a question about the tech. I think he knows she’s a fraud, but gives her a long leash anyway.

[@realascanb222]

No she has a fabricated and vague answer to everything

[@lynnross3990]

Khan asks such stupid questions -- spent too long on her childhood which was just fine for Elizabeth. She is actually a dangerous person.

[@Zayden.]

Sal is there to promote her company, not for education.Sal is a company man after all.

[@TananBaboo]

26:30 he should have trusted his gut.

[@AnotherPilot1]

Much of her self-guided and self-serving giggling was woven into the interview to cast the idea that she was the Master of the interview. But substantively...her interview comes across as a sophomoric job interview.

[@theultimatetowerofterrorre301]

She was a smart lady, but was not ethical or motivated by helping others as evidenced by rolling out lab testing that she knew was not accurate. In the end she was a smart con artist who got caught.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

She's not smart, just a psychopath. You don't have to outrun the bear, just the guy next to you.

[@Drrn43]

She's the new Pinocchio in healthcare! LOL! Med Techs should have been allowed to question her claims, bc that's their specialty!

[@mollietickle]

47:00 her voice is normal!

[@CepheiVV]

41:15 better

[@Yuyayayu872]

Good catch!

[@JewandGreek]

A man would never have gotten away with this.

[@robertbrown380]

Lol. Wat?

[@GrammarSplaining]

My God, so much assurance and self-importance with so little behind it. This woman is fabulously vain.

[@johnpendarvis7885]

Her benign facade is very interesting when you read about how ruthless and dishonest she actually is.

[@kennj321]

I thought thernos was always technically controvesial because blood sample from a finger print aren't a representative sample. also, the storys i've heard that they put them in helicopter is pretty funny. helicopters are for trama and its obvious what wrong at that point. also helicopters don't want any extra weight. not to mention the extreme environment would constantly mess the machine up.

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

Exactly. However, there is interest in battlefield testing, but delivered much more simply and robustly. For example, DARPA solicited proposals for blood and other bodily fluid tests that could be performed using simple pregnancy test-like tech. Diagnostics for All, which develops low cost tests for the third world, originated with that idea. DARPA continues to be interested in wearables that monitor and broadcast individual soldier health and performance. Obviously, these devices would have to be robust, requiring extensive field testing before being considered for deployment.

[@jamessullivan4391]

WTF? Could you attempt to make sense?

[@jamiethompson1008]

Why would the military be testing blood in a helicopter? They wouldnt have time for that if they are transporting. What good is that going to do?

[@MayaMaia311]

She said that no girl rose her hand that they want to be a science tech ceo. And her conclusion is because they had no role models. Although this could be right yoh cannot exclude that this is just nothing that that girls wanted to be. As a woman i often feel presure by other women to want what man usually want. No i did not want to play with cars as a girl. My dad wished for a boy and showed me all the "boys" stuff. It just was not for me. Feminism is about oppurtunity. It is not wrong to love pink if you are a girl!

[@MayaMaia311]

Disclaimer - i'm a tech girl. Have no wish to became a ceo though. That would not make me happy, i don't need this. Sorry Elisabeth 😀

[@Yuyayayu872]

I think you should also learn how to spell.

[@Chris-bn1bn]

I would like to thank you for removing Elizabeth Holmes from neglectfully being nominated an outstanding person and false discoverer. I can't believe that anyone bought her BS. I know a used car salesman the moment I see one. Congradulations doing lousy homework. I saw right through her the moment she spoke

[@Frankybeanselevators]

Reminds me of Nelson Bigheads character in Silicon Valley, he worked at Hooli and convinced Gavin Belson that he had a brilliant idea to make head phones that you could control with your mind. He comes up with the big ideas, it's the peons who work in the labs who have to hash out the easy part of figuring out how to do it.

[@stewartkee6115]

Wow, this sounds fascinating. If only I could get in on the ground floor.

[@groundcontrol436385]

At this point, I'd like to know how she really got into Stanford. I just don't trust anything she does or says and I wonder if her family pulled strings maybe using her neighbor, Tim Draper.

[@adventurebabyboomer7318]

Product could not do what it said it could do.........very Fundamental tenet flaw. Also those comprehensive blood tests require more volume which the "nanotainer" could absolutely not provide........ So basic.

[@jamiethompson1008]

Nanotainer??? What a dumb name.

[@MayaMaia311]

Her parents made her believe that all things can come true if she keeps fighting. A little reality doesn't hurt I guess.

[@jeankroeber2481]

It is truly chilling to see this woman now in Feb. 2022, as we all await her sentencing which seems incredibly far away--in September. Everyone should read the book "Bad Blood" by John Carreyrou to see the sinister development of Ms. Holmes, including her deep voice.

[@scratch5191]

Yeah Elizabeth, you should engage in your own health information. Mental health information. If you love being a fraud and you have a passion for it, you might want to let go of that one. You should live in a house with no furniture. A house that has iron bars .

[@jbt6007]

Elizabeth Holmes: Performance Artist

[@richardrutgard1847]

Hamlet: O most pernicious woman! O villain, villain, smiling, damnèd villain! My tables-meet it is I set it down That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain- At least I am sure it may be so in Denmark.

[@MrPickledede]

When wokeness replaces reason and victim culture comes before merritt the well-being of society as a whole will be endangered. This is where we are heading. They wanted a woman CEO/innovator so badly they abandoned all reason.

[@debbiesunlight7047]

In Britain we have got healthcare when it matters .

[@raymondlancaster3355]

People seem desperate to find heroes for themselves and they seem to prefer them when they can characterize them as a part of a minority. Sal Khan always seemed to be a guy who had his heart and head in the right place. He’s obviously very intelligent and strives to have people learn and seek the truth. Not sure how he got involved in this. I would’ve thought he would’ve asked some tough questions but I guess he wanted a fairytale too.

[@aprilshowersstormtrooper]

Sal Khan isn’t a professional chemist subjecting Holmes to scrutiny. Sal is just serving as a gentle interviewer here.

[@redskinStu]

I wonder if she uses the deep voice in prison

[@audreymukeba5239]

This interview could’ve been 17’ easily. More than an hour to repeat 🔁 the same words wow !!! I admire the interviewer’s patience…

[@lynnross3990]

Patience? It's just he asks really dumb questions.

[@Anticolonial911]

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[@alexsilver7917]

I don't understand why nobody ever asked her how does your Edison machine work. What your background is science chemistry electronics. Who exactly created this machine with only a drop of blood.