Easton 5.0 vs Easton FMJ Max

[@dominicerickson4490]

Just got out of the military, y’all at elk shape motivated me to start bowing hunting again your guys stuff is awesome!!

[@noaht215]

Easton Tour! Hell yea!! Super stoked to try these new 5.0 shafts! Very realistic and professional outlooks gents. Thank you both Dan and Tyson!🫡….& Jeff!😎🤘🏼

[@philiplayne8495]

I’m glad that Easton is doing the half out. I’ve tried the HIT system, followed the directions to a ‘t.’ Every insert ended up coming loose. I replaced those with the half out inserts, and I couldn’t be happier.

[@RobertWilliams82-22]

The FOC comments, we actually do see some higher FOC’s in target arrows… 200 grain points for indoor 27’s… Also a lot of target shooters increase their point weight for less wind deflection….

[@progradepainting3755]

Best shaft ever so far. Already have them, already proving themselves to be the best. Not to mention, the hit collars, the inserts, are incredibly consistent in weight, and are also super straight right out of the gate (not much work to get these arrows match grade in every aspect)… A true game changer, in the sense you can create an arrow of almost any weight that is way more durable and consistent. Honestly, it comes to the components more than the shaft itself. We all knew Easton had this in the works, and it doesn’t disappoint. You can create anything, to hunt everything out of this one shaft, bar none.

[@jonathanbarksdale8595]

When searching for them to buy online it's hard to differentiate these arrows from older 5.0 match grade. Anyway to ensure which ones these are?😊 some sites don't have gpi .

[@CalebVernier]

One is called 5.0 the old 5mm is called axis

[@aaronshorter864]

I hope to get some of the cheaper version to play with this summer. See how they work and play with weights and components.

[@Guffyzilla]

I've shot Gold Tip for years, however: going forward I'm switching to Easton. We have to prioritize USA made products, and I'm excited about this 5.0

[@roberthammond4700]

Yes go to the facility I would love to see how they build arrows

[@mikeferreira3879]

Ill definitely be buying the new fmj arrows

[@tysonyates3485]

Great choice! You will love them!

[@peterray5935]

Do the steel half outs butt against the end of the shaft or do they slip over top?

[@scottmiles5783]

Appreciaye you Dan. I shoot Easton 4mm and want to know why I should switch to these. I almost always just go by your advice to buy my gear as I don't have the time to do what you do. Love your work.

[@drewolm]

There really is no reason to switch unless you’re just into trying different stuff for the sake of just trying stuff.

[@tysonyates3485]

@@drewolm Agreed! 4MM is still an awesome arrow and has always been a go-to in my quiver!

[@t.j.halbisen7118]

65lb. Draw weight I can cut my arrows down to 25.5 inches with a 27” draw length. I’m shooting 340’s now could I drop down to 300 and get a better result? ABT.

[@thudson391978]

I am not a pro but abt a lot. I think you could have a better result depending on your point weight. More point weight to make the stiffer spine work for you.

[@_leroy_.]

I shoot a 340 at 65lb and 70lb with a 27” draw length. I also cut my arrows at 25.5” if I use hit style components which I glue all in as one piece. If I use an outsert like a podium I cut down to 25” Everything seems to fly and group great out at 100. I’ve built the same arrow in a 300 and nothing changed but reducing my max range on tape due to arrows weighing more. Group identical

[@STIHLFIRE437]

I’ve been thinking of getting some of these to tinker with. Might be my new hunting arrow.

[@bigz5262]

Since this is a hunting channel can we get some hunting strategies videos?

[@trxe420]

So interesting, I went to the sonic 6.0 last year and upped my weight to 503g at like 8.2 gpi, but the trajectory sucks. I love the KE, but only about out to 40 yards. I miss my 5mm axis though, maybe this is the answer?

[@ludodg]

😅hello Thx for the intell :) I’m from Europe and total noob on hunting. Can someone explain what a half-out point (or insert?) is?

[@jordang94]

ABT ! your the man !!!

[@hhcustommuskiebaits5826]

Which way are the fletching on the premium arrows left or right that wasn’t clarified thanks on the 50s

[@79travisdee]

It’s right. He talked about it on Josh and Tim’s podcast

[@es.75]

Bad thing is I can’t really sport my bow I don’t really have one anymore here at least anyone too help set up my bow so I’ve been trying to look for bow press so I can do my own bow and then probably get into making my own arrows completely

[@bloodlines9610]

Ok this may be me but driving with just sound i thought he was talking to Forest Galante

[@DavidBowCrazyBabyak86]

😊 if I can come to Utah tech I surely would. But I surely hope you got the PA tax spot reserve last Thursday. Usually of May and the 1st, 2nd, 3rd of June. Something like that it's always the first weekend of June

[@MatroniFitness]

Stupid question; if you fletch all the same color and it’s not spine aligned, does having a cock vane matter? Or do you just turn 1 up in line with the string and always have 2 down?

[@sheyanderson4371]

Even though Easton says you don't have to nock tune, some still do. If you do, nock tune before fletching, then mark the shaft and nock to place your vanes accordingly (mark a line across the end of the shaft and beginning of nock on top). If you don't care to nock tune, just place whatever vane you want up, so you have the most clearance. If you have a wonky arrow, rotate it to the other 2 vanes and see which orientation flies best. (Not a stupid question at all)

[@MatroniFitness]

@ interesting. I’ve ran victory prior so I just did spine aligned as my one color and always put it up. Sometimes I’d rotate it to the right some so it cleared my cables and never touched it after. On my hunting set it seemed like my cock vane being directly aligned to the string flew the best. Interesting to know that I can just do all the vanes same color and just nock it in any orientation. How could I nock tune without having vanes? Bare shaft thru paper?

[@sheyanderson4371]

@@MatroniFitness I shoot Victory and use the spine align as well, but I know several that shoot Easton. They bareshaft nock tune in paper first before fletching. If you buy pre-fletched, don't waste those fletches. Just group tune them and any that are off, nock tune each vane to see if it helps. If some still aren't grouping right, you can nock tune between fletches. As long as you have clearance and don't mind all cock vanes not being up, they will work until you decide to re-fletch.

[@MatroniFitness]

@@sheyanderson4371 interesting. Wonder how bad it’ll be if I just fletch them and shoot them. I got the match grade tips / collars / shafts. I need to learn how to tune etc. admittedly I had my shop set me up and it’s been shooting great. But with poundage increase, new shafts, weight, etc I prolly need to be reset up. I don’t have a draw board / press / tuner.

[@sheyanderson4371]

@@MatroniFitness Not everyone has the means or time to build and tune their own stuff, so don't worry about that. That's what the shops are there for and if they are a good one, they will have no problem taking the time helping you out. With a poundage change and new arrows, it wouldn't hurt to have them double check your tune. If it was already tuned and shooting well before, it won't take them long to re-tune and get you going. If you just want to get out shooting asap, you are good just to match up the labels and fletch them all up identically to start out. Again, if you have bad flyers you can nock tune on the spot and just deal with un-aligned vanes. If you have a hunt coming up, make sure you shoot broadheads on all of them and pick out the best ones.

[@Gibsonlife573]

Just like guys saying that you know about the clock their Arrow you know a lot of people believe in that man if you spin a string right and you serve it right it's going to throw the arrow left 99% of the time if the arrow has to stop in the mid air to be corrected by the fletchings does it affect the accuracy?

[@jasoncummings1755]

So would a 340 ir 400 be better for a 27.5in draw and 60lbs from a bow that IBOs at 348fps.

[@tysonyates3485]

Do you know what point weight you plan to run?

[@jasoncummings1755]

@tysonyates3485 probably a std insert with a 125 head.

[@noaht215]

@@jasoncummings1755 340

[@tysonyates3485]

@@noaht215agreed!

[@davefisher5196]

All anyone talks about is 70 and 80lb bows. Quite a few of us shoot less than that. I went to 50lbs when the 50lb bows started shooting arrows faster than 70lb older bows and get pass through with 400 gr arrows

[@kevinbuie5144]

I have 29 in draw and shoot 80 pound Mathew’s what would be the ideal arrow setup with the 5.0 I mainly hunt whitetail in Oklahoma but want to go west for elk

[@drewolm]

250 spine

[@Gibsonlife573]

And they showed that too bro with the fixed Brodhead in Ranch fairy his buddy tuned his bow to shoot bullet holes took a Broadhead had it all dolled in took the Broadhead and bent it in half and it still hit the center a lot of it is exactly about the bow and the arrow set up if that string is hitting that Arrow dead in the center and then if you got enough weight and mass up front to drag it for you know a good long distance that's not saying you have to go crazy but I definitely see how weight up front helps

[@jackbuendgen389]

The worthiest endeavor is building 3 dozen of the deadliest arrows you can afford. Unfortunately I cannot afford the new Easton arrows... But I can get sonics or axis'! 😊

[@drewolm]

For now. This might kill off the sonic.

[@jackbuendgen389]

@drewolm $170/dozen vs $125/dozen says maybe

[@Orr_s]

Do you think you could ever get away with a HIT insert using the iron will type hot melt?? My onlyy gripe with the epoxy they use or super glue is it wont come out if you want to change something with components. I ruined 2 match grade arrows couple years ago trying to get components out that were epoxied in with their epoxy.

[@mgrundy]

I've done it. It's messy and you have to take some extra precaution to not overheat the HIT tool, and also clean it immediately after each shaft is inserted, to ensure the depth is consistent each time.

[@Orr_s]

@ yeah the depth thing with the hot melt is what worries me since it can set so quickly…i know iron will makes a metal tool for it as well which may be worth getting if i go that route. Any issues with it coming out in cold or hot weather? Is it worth the extra fuss or not really…love the idea of hit’s with a collar but being able to swap components easily if needed is important to me

[@mgrundy]

@@Orr_sif the flexibility is important to you then it’s worth it.

[@Orr_s]

@@mgrundy thanks man. Was leaning that way too. No issues with loose inserts or anything?

[@mang7059]

I want a factory tour

[@drewolm]

This is going to be a HUGE seller for Easton. For me personally it’s a little light for a 300 but people are going to love this arrow. I’m still loving the Sonic. A slightly smaller diameter, which in my opinion is TOTALLY over rated, and a standard shouldered insert. 8.8 in a 300 spine is perfect. I have a feeling this 5.0 may kill off the Sonic line. I will be watching for all discounts.

[@tysonyates3485]

I think it will be a huge seller! Sonic is still an awesome bang for your buck!

[@outdoorsmanofmichigan3858]

Psh easton tour say less ol son!!! DO IT!

[@jordang94]

i really want to see the new FMJ MAX seen online they are orange ?! very sweet Easton , im new into archery but i tinker thanks to Dan/elk shape ! but i chose non other than Easton! ABT

[@Terpedup925]

The new FMJ max isn’t orange that’s the old fmj autumn

[@jordang94]

@ # the more you know thanks .

[@blackbeard0323]

Cool!

[@Orr_s]

Couldnt agree moreee with the argument of ranging and they move or a deer moving when you shoot and ducking! Flatter shooting is ideal! Tell that to the ranch fairy koolaid drinkers tho, good luck. Its common sense. It doesnt have to be insanely light and even if it is just put all the weight up front…i run a 465gr VAP SS 29.5 inch draw, ethics insert and collar, 165 grain total up front with point…and thats about as light as i can get that arrow while having 15.5% FOC. And thats pretty good for the punch that arrow has at 9.9gpi. But prob will buy a set of these even tho i like the 4mm past few yrs

[@tysonyates3485]

This is my personal philosophy as well! Best of luck hunting!

[@Orr_s]

@ you as well! Enjoyed the pod with you on Josh and Tim’s channel and this vid

[@tysonyates3485]

@@Orr_s thank you! I enjoyed chatting with them. Great dudes and such a fun sport to be a part of.

[@howardkuhn2793]

The Easton app is horrible..they keep pushing the app,they need to fix it instead..LOVE my Easton arrows

[@Gibsonlife573]

He said trajectory is accuracy how in the hell is that please tell me if you're not accurate I don't give a damn how flat your bow shoots

[@nickflanigan4290]

@@Gibsonlife573 you have to be accurate regardless. What he’s saying is a flatter traj arrow gives more wiggle room when you don’t have a precise yardage in real life

[@zaynemikita6897]

Ok so Victory Rip 300 spine 8.8gpi. New one by easton 8.4gpi. So if you're splitting hairs with .4 or in a 28in arrow 11grs roughly. Don't think it's worth the money.

[@ethicalarchery7316]

Hilarious. As you say you're not into target archery your target bow directly behind you. Not sure if that was on purpose but a funny troll

[@south_hunts_605]

Say you don't watch regularly without saying it😂 He isn't into target Archery. He got it to give five spot a try & thought about doing it after the first of the year before he gets back into TAC and hunting season. Scroll back a few episodes if you want the story

[@south_hunts_605]

OK Dan, privileged information is precious… you're not supposed to advertise "dates on lock" when they're really not on lock...yet😂😂

[@paulheberling2750]

Trajectory is accuracy? Go rifle hunting.

[@CryptoHuntinDad]

Lol.... this guy just compared target arrows and hunting arrow. Made him look like a momomoron.

[@Gibsonlife573]

What in the hell is this dude like even know what he's talking about almost all target archers inside archers especially shoot two to 250 up front a lot of them do listen to Paige Pierce man that's how she starts with a 30 inch shaft with 200 up front or 250 I can't remember what exactly but he's crazy as hell can I just that man but it's like a missile think about it do they put big heavy all the way through the missile know the big heavy is on the nose of the missile so therefore once it's launched that knows and that weight is carrying it not being pushed carrying look at Ranch fairy he shows a light Arrow loses a hell of a lot more speed than a heavy Arrow but it carries a hell of a lot more knock down a hell of a lot longer ridiculously heavy I shoot anywhere from $480 to 5:50

[@BucksBeesS.C.]

I hate that they stopped making the bloodline 6mm arrows. Cost was more in my range. Shoot 480 and 400 spine 50 lb. 27 draw. Glad I bought 3 dozen this year.

[@tysonyates3485]

Those were great arrows! I would steer you towards the Easton Sonic 6.0. Great price and similar specs to the bloodline! And of course, Made in USA!

[@McCormicMusicStudios]

The rep from Easton really misrepresents the point of FOC high FOC is for what happens when you hit the animal not what happens in the air. The 383 arrow ain't doing crap if it comes anywhere close to bone. Arrows like that are why we find broadheads embedded in shoulders of elk and deer every year... Edits:typos

[@Growbrojay]

Tell me you don't know crap about FOC without telling me you don't know crap lmfao. Wow. higher FOC leads to a more stable arrow trajectory, especially at longer distances. "FOC" stands for "Front of Center," which refers to the percentage of an arrow's total weight that is located in the front half of the arrow, essentially indicating how far forward the arrow's center of balance is positioned. a higher FOC means more weight is concentrated towards the arrow's point, it's considered to promote better arrow stability in flight, particularly for longer shots especially in bow hunting.

[@SKATEtime41]

You're not supposed to aim for the shoulder....

[@McCormicMusicStudios]

@@SKATEtime41 no but animals move, wind pushes the arrow, we can pull or push shots. I'm building an arrow that will still be ethically lethal when things don't go perfect

[@McCormicMusicStudios]

​​@@Growbrojay yeah the whole point of a high FOC arrow if you've read any of the Ashby studies is because they have better penetration at the same arrow weight. If you have two arrows weighing 500 grains one with 20% FOC and one with 15% FOC, The 20% FOC arrow is going to penetrate further and have a higher likelihood of a pass through than the 15%. Go look at all the research Ed Ashby has done alongside the Ashby foundation. In bow hunting I'm far more concerned with what happens after the arrow makes contact with the animal. The arrow with higher FOC being more stable and less prone to wind deflection is a great benefit, but in hunting it's not the primary purpose or benefit.

[@nickflanigan4290]

@@McCormicMusicStudioshigher FOC = more stable arrow flight. Better penetration is a by product of that