Ultraview Thumb: The Good & The Bad

[@chrishanlon6550]

You can lock the release and still put it on your D loop so your not locking it afterwards. Makes it easier.

[@jasonphillips9174]

Yes you can lock the release and still put it on your d loop. I hunting with this release last season and loved it

[@nathanschnier2886]

I was intrigued, but went with the Stan Onnex when i was choosing. All and more adjustability, fit my hand well, AND you dont have to buy every single attachment individually.. stan comes with everything. Working at a machine shop and loving the contour button, i bought one and modified it to fit on the Stan Onnex, and absolutely LOVE the release!

[@jasonparks389]

No release changes your DL just your anchor point that being said the UV is a sweet release

[@kendalbrian]

I’ve got the stainless option thumb and hinge. They have improved my shooting accuracy and experience. They are the best.

[@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors]

Thank you for sharing friend. It’s on my list. Maybe Monday or Tuesday. Have a blessed weekend and good luck this season. Dale.

[@tobymatkowski]

Sold both Nock 2 Its and my silverback for two UV thumbs and a hinge 2.0. Love em!

[@NorCal_In_AZ]

I've had one for about 2 months now. Yes it for sure adds about 1/2" to your draw, I stuck with my draw length, and adjusted my anchor point. Never moved my peep or anything else. What I loved right away was how crisp the break is, and the travel adjustment let me set it to where I'm forced to pull through my shot. Its not cheap, but worth every cent IMO.

[@Jory623]

I don’t have draw length issues with different releases, I have d-loop to anchor point issues…

[@jesusisalive3227]

Exactly.

[@michaelwilson6742]

When I went to the UV hinge, I had to shorten my draw length up so I could anchor at the same spot. Love the releases though!

[@the_atomic_punk487]

I have the same issue and am thinking of shortening my DL by a half an inch, did you have to cut your arrows smaller? Thanks.

[@michaelwilson6742]

@@the_atomic_punk487 so I haven’t cut them shorter, but I def could. When I buy new arrows I will cut them shorter

[@the_atomic_punk487]

@@michaelwilson6742 ok thanks, was thinking about trying to shorten my d-loop instead but not sure if I’ll gain enough length to make a difference, thanks man.

[@jons7e]

I wish they would release a short neck version because no one wants to give up draw length to make a release work. I returned it because of that one reason, and a shorter d loop isn't the answer because you put torque on the string which affects accuracy. Could you get use to a different anchor, yes, but it has a domino effect on your setup, and I'm sticking with a Carter release

[@danielleuteplace535]

Lock that bad boy before attaching to D loop, just a little quicker I’ve found. Love the release. Switched from a Carter as well, keep up the good work!

[@yesmynameisbilly]

Great review. Your channel has returned to a more serious vibe after recent changes and I like it. Nothing wrong with some humor mixed in but the videos in the recent past were as much bro type humor as information and that’s not why I started following you. Keep up the good work, much appreciated.

[@trxe420]

I have a carter wise choice 2 finger that I have used for years, but I am buying a new bow this year and going with this or the stan. I like the features of the Stan, but this one is calling my name for some reason. New bow, perfect time to adjust to a long neck release. It's all about the thumb for me and how that seats.

[@royhoglund1322]

Your review is spot on! I love the release and I did see a difference in my draw length. I am a 27" draw length and feel a little stretched out with the UV releases. If I turn the limb bolts out a turn I need to change the mods. The Ultraview Thumb release is quality quality quality! Keep the gear reviews coming, ABT!

[@GrantBontrager]

Ive had one since the middle of last year now and I've loved it. I surprisingly haven't had any draw length issues since i swapped but before i swapped i thing my draw was a tiny bit short so it helped me. Great release and great guys behind it.

[@robharnish1836]

I pick it up when it first came out last fall. Worked with on a string trainer in my off time then after deer season end I started working with it with the bow. Draw length had to be adjusted from 28 to 27 inches and peep site and to be moved as well. Anyone thinking about switching should factor these things i, but the release is amazing and has become second nature in my hand. Keep it up elk shape great video!!

[@chetmanley2883]

My favorite feature is being able to shoot the thumb button with the hinge 2 without changing my POI, also I just had to shorter my dloop a hair to get a comfortable anchor. It’s my favorite so far.

[@andrewcarton7890]

I’ve got the stainless steel version of the Thumb Button and I love it. I love the extra weight in my hand compared to the aluminum version. Like you said, only thing I didn’t like is the change in draw length. Will definitely be rocking it in the mountains this September.

[@arttrumbo9496]

Did your draw length go up or down with the UV?

[@andrewcarton7890]

@@arttrumbo9496 I switched from a B3 Alpha release and I had to change my anchor point, but I didn’t change my draw length

[@BrianMoore-ft1ec]

Recommend if your tinkering with fry the helix upgrade thumb button you can get from them! You can set to have the edge go right in the crease of your thumb.

[@chanceyoung3758]

I picked up the button about 2 months ago before Oklahoma TAC. I was previously using the Nock-2-It, and caught myself getting lazy the more i shot with my 2nd and 3rd finger on the release (3rd finger only has half a shelf to rest on on that release), which i learned caused me to shoot different towards the end of every shooting session. After playing with a buddy of mines UV button, I made the switch and have been a huge fan of the change. More ergonomic for my hand size, and I’m more consistent with the full 3 finger grip!

[@kenvanhorn7253]

Yea I'm getting one this week shot with one not to long ago and totally improved my shooting coming from a normal wrist release luved it for sure

[@cwalter2013]

I’ve heard of several of the UV buttons start to have creep in their travel adjustment. Something to keep an eye on. No issues with the Stan Onnex so far.

[@Pr1mitiveHunter]

Love my onnex

[@chrishanlon6550]

They addressed and corrected that issue already

[@Liz_S702]

Bought the SS medium release and love the feel but had to put it down due to draw length longation. I didn't want to change my bow set up in the middle of 3d season. I'm getting new strings on my target bow and will make the changes once they are on. Then i will get the hinge and see how that goes- button for wind, hinge for still days. Yes, it's pricey but it's quality. Really liking UV products.

[@fr8cture]

I have ran the hinge since i got into archery pretty much. I've been interested in it and was able to pickup the stainless model for 210 today! I did notice a draw length difference with the hinge. I had a too simple before that.

[@georgecafasso4483]

ive had one for about 6 months now and i havent noticed anychanges to draw lenght but the feel is alot better than the scott archery thumb release very impressed with the release

[@chasetherippa]

I bought this release after using Carter and had no issue with draw length. Everything felt fine.

[@jesterhead9]

I have one and I love it. It did add some draw length for me and I stuck it out until I got the Hoyt Alpha X which allowed me to decrease my draw length by a 1/4 and now its perfect.

[@brianpulscher6514]

I was shooting a Carter Insatiable so my DL didn't change. I did the stainless. I am still playing with the barrel a bit but really like the release. I shot day two at tac in OK with no adjustments (Picked it up at the Lancaster booth there) UV had already run out of inventory. I shot very well with it with very little prep. I have been a Carter guy for 20+ years. I have no complaints about this release, actually only one FWIW. I did notice my loop is wearing much more quickly with this release. Haven't had time to look at what may be causing it, but I noticed last night the loop wasn't in great shape way more quickly than I have seen.

[@DavidSkelton-bm5qw]

I have been using this release a while and after seeing Joel Turner talking about trigger punch I found someways to help prevent this where you can actually use it as a back tension, found this vid on Bowmar Bowhunting

[@chadmartin7764]

Just ordered this release. Just really like the adjustments

[@MrDrPinnacle]

That release made me go from a 27.5 to 28 on my new setup. I also changed bows, but was surprised because laying the 2 next to each other I would have thought I was going to be shorter.

[@Pakman13]

I’ve got both the stainless and aluminum. Best button on the market IMO… great review as always!

[@Gr8erlifeoutdoors]

Just a warning this is a long comment so I apologize in advance. I just received this release yesterday. I have always shot with a wrist strap trigger release aid although I don’t feel I’ve developed any target panic I do tend to punch the trigger after about twenty shots. Not really sure if that qualifies as panic because I’m not panicking when I do it. I purchased the true ball x/tension R/T and really like the concept of having a trigger style back tension release. Pros of it were I didn’t need to adjust my draw length or change my anchor point and it did create a surprise break. The only con I have with it was an inconsistent break. I had adjusted it to about 2.5 on the dial which got me to about 4 lbs over holding weight so right about 19lbs for a break. After shooting it for a bit it seemed like I had to pull more to get it to break to the point I’d be pushing my riser and maxing out the movement in my back and having to pull my elbow back to finish the shot. I put it on a hand held scale and checked it and I was getting up to 25lbs before it broke. I adjusted it back down but after a bit it would be doing the same thing, checked it again and was getting breaks at 23-24 lbs. needless to say I went back to my trigger release. I decided to order the ultra view thumb button and paired it with a T.R.U. Ball V-lock and replacement strap. Practiced for about three hours with a shot trainer and I’m extremely happy with it. I have yet to use it with my Bow but I may be trying that today. I will most likely have to shorten my draw length and probably adjust me peep for this but I feel after just practicing it will be worth it.

[@davidb_525]

I have a UV button and a Stan Onnex button. Both are top notch releases. I do switch between the two every so often but I prefer the Stan over the UV.

[@joepeverelle6845]

I got one because the xl is only one that fit my hand. Then I just fell in love with it. Roughly 3800 shots on it.

[@joshuaz2603]

Hey Dan! Would love to see you compare the UV thumb button to the Stan Onnex. I use the Stan and absolutely love it. The adjustability is great and trigger is crisp. I would like to see them head to head.

[@s10v8dude]

I had both...just sold the stan onnex. The Button is just slightly better in all categories for me. YMMV

[@pauljackson8657]

Have it. Love it. My only complaint is I don’t have a a complaint.

[@trckn_151]

I shot the stainless version at my local shop and was very impressed with it. The only thing I didn't like was the size, the one the shop had was a medium and made my fingers feel crammed together. I know they have a large version as well, but would have to try it out before buying. On that note, I did order 2 of the uv barrels to replace the one that was on my carter wise choice and the one on my knock 2it releases. Can't tell you how much more comfortable those releases are with that larger thumb barrel to me.

[@nathangroseclose2071]

Hey Dan great review!. You can put that UV knob on the carter if you really diggin it!.

[@werewolfarchery8424]

I'll add to a few others. There is a widespread misconception about draw length as it relates to release neck length. No release changes the DL of the bow. If anyone tells you to adjust the DL of the bow to accommodate a short/long release length neck, you should question their advice. Total draw length has two components, often referred to as front and back. The front is the DL of the bow itself. This determines where the string aligns with your face. Regardless of release this should never change. The second component is the back side of the DL. It is controlled by two factors for the most part: release neck length and d-loop length. For releases that are a longer neck, the simple and 2 minute adjustment is to shorten your dloop a bit. Anchors can and will change with different releases simply because they can alter how your hand is shaped, but they don't affect your DL. The back side DL is what determines your elbow position, draw arm alignment with arrow, and draw shoulder position. It is a critical component, that 98% of archers don't realize is an adjustable thing.

[@jonathan_guerrero]

I don't disagree with you, but with the uv button I could hardly reach the back of my ear. Like 2 millimeters more and I would no longer be able to have any point of contact with my head, let along the side of my face. I switch to any other release, and my knuckles are in front of my ear not behind. I made my d loop as small as possible and it was still a tad longer than I wanted it to be. For that reason I can't shoot the button. I absolutely love it, but it's too long for my personal preference.

[@jesusisalive3227]

It's very simple. No, a release does not change your draw length. A longer or shorter release changes your anchor point.

[@carlparisi9749]

I shoot the hinge 2 and although I loose some length it’s totally worth it for the comfort and crispy release

[@forgerat]

I switched from a tru fire index release and actually gained 1” on my draw length which is great for me because I need all the speed I can get.

[@bryantrimborn9489]

I’ve tried to buy this release but can’t find a large in stock! Thanks for the reviews.

[@MrRay645]

used a couple Stans Perfex releases for years... they are awesome, but I didn't not like the mirror polished finish or the rounded edges both had me death gripping when my hand got sweaty or really cold. absolutely love the UV finish and shape, so much easier for me to hold it in the hook of my fingers. zero effect of draw length (front half is DL) but your anchor or back half will change. easy anchor tweak for me. I just shortened my d loop a hair to compensate (wasn't much going from a Stan long neck)

[@mikepearce4042]

The length on the head is the whole reason why I don’t use it. I use the cater wise choice and the Nock 2 it.

[@papaschuette]

Hey Brother. That release looks sweet. I'm still on the fence about switching to a handheld. I'm currently using a Tru-Fire Smoke Max trigger release. Which I love. But, even with it adjusted all the way in, to the shortest setting, it's still about a half inch too long. I'll eventually find my perfect release one day. Even after 30+ years, I still have hope. Lol.

[@lukelamphier1699]

Dude love the opener! Click clack clickety clack. Is that clemshadys work? Good stuff. Gonna be great watching him grow into an elk hunter

[@bmoss009]

I liked the stan onnex more than the ultraview. All the customization options right out of the box equals better bang for the buck. Both solid choices though.

[@tehype765]

This release and Stans Perfex/Onnex are the crispiest thumb releases ever made.

[@MichaelKeane-vm2mj]

string angle will absolutely not change. release hook up length has zero effect on the draw length of the bow which decides the string angle.

[@phillipcaseres7084]

I bought mine at TAC . Love it.

[@jddpt3281]

Am I hearing you right? It seems backwards. You pulled more out with the UV than you did with the Carter. That would mean more draw length and more speed to keep your same anchor point. That’s a good thing.

[@shadrickyoder8782]

Thanks for showing real groups

[@graydoncoy193]

Absolutely love it. Got 4 whitetails under its belt

[@dylandavison]

Love that release. Helped me to figure out how to do a surprise shot which I’m still working on after watching this nerd channel. 😂. Nerd in the best of ways bro

[@GreenEagle1983]

I was considering this but decided on the Stan Onnex. I really like how the Onnex comes with everything. THe Ultraview is sleek, but that price point ... plus the cost of every accessory/upgrade makes this release close to $400 . Another big plus for the Onnex is that the model is the same for the button, back tension, and hinge style. So you can get the same release set up for is style which makes cross-training more streamline. I think the ultraview would be a better buy once they include the accessories

[@the_sharp_carpenter]

They design it to be an exact pair to their hinge and hinge 2 models. Only thing that's extra is the heavier materials (same as Stan) and if you want to add the hunting bracket, or change it out to a 4 finger. Does Stan include a 4 finger option for free?

[@timweber2434]

The Onnex won out for me when I upgraded my release this year.

[@ny-co3039]

I'll pay top dollar for a release because in my opinion, it's the most important component you can buy for a bow as it's a safety issue if faulty. That said, I didn't expect it to be much better than other releases out there. I stand corrected. It's worth every penny. Draw without any worry of misfire and once you're ready to shoot, you'll find the smoothest, most satisfying mechanism you can imagine. The only thing is get a medium even if you're a big guy. The large is way too big, had to exchange

[@derekmiller7367]

I love it I have the thumb button and the hinge 2 love both

[@rugerhoyt]

Agree with others. I bot a large as soon as they came out. Been shooting the heck out of it in preparation for a Africa trip. It’s going with me as a back up, but doesn’t fit me as well as the Stan Onnex, that will be my main carry. Also not a fan of being nickeled and dimed for upgrades when the Stan has everything in the box ready to roll.

[@protokid1516]

So my draw length issue is kinda reverse from what you spoke about. To truly get comfortable I had to lengthen my draw by a half inch, and in trying to go back to the wise choice my anchor was way fucked up. I would like to ask have you had or heard about any “hang fire” issues with the in button?

[@lindesylittlechief9056]

Let’s goooooo haha can’t wait for new thumb release Regina sk just started carrying uv products

[@Fourthkow]

Weird that you pulled more string with the uv given it has a longer neck. I would’ve suspected the string to be shorter assuming anchor point is the same.

[@nicholaswarwick9580]

Man I was waiting for this review. Lost my back up Stan somewhere so have been wondering if this route was the way to go or not. Love my Stans but this one definitely intrigued me , thanks for the vid man, gonna have to go see MFJJ and play around with one now

[@nickhansen129]

I have both the hinge 2 and the button. I love them both. Your rite though, I changed my mods on my V3X a half of an inch shorter and it made it more comfortable.

[@the_atomic_punk487]

I’m thinking of doing the same on my v3x

[@Addicted_To_The_Thump]

what is the difference between the medium and large ? trying to figure out which one to try

[@newzealandspotlightersasso9181]

Hey Dan, will you be using this for the upcoming season or a index?

[@JohnPartain]

I prefer the feel of the carter better. Not a bad release though

[@fredda1488]

Same problem for me... I feel that I need to go down in draw lenght. My ancor is OFF! But a great release! Price to Sweden?? 530$ But if u want something... Thanks for a great channel! Greetings from Sweden!

[@dean4670]

If the neck length is longer on the UV, then why would it have pulled out half inch more string? In my mind, half inch longer release length would make it half inch shorter on the draw? What am I missing?

[@ElkShape]

Yup. You’re correct. I said it wrong but hopefully you get the gist 👊🏼

[@zacchurch502]

I definitely want the stainless version but that price tag is difficult. Not saying that it’s not worth it. Just difficult

[@douglasely7416]

If only you could test it first 299 is spendy my draw length is 27 or just shy i might have get one all the reviews are good that I have seen

[@mikevillarreal9973]

It’s a bougie Stan release. But for the same price and a few less features.

[@houghtonic1975]

I don't really see any advantage over the Carter Too Simple, to be honest. The Too Simple has travel adjustment and force adjustments that you lock in with set screws. It also has good barrel adjustability. So unless you really like the ergonomics that much better, there is no difference. The Too Simple also has that shorter neck, meaning you don't have to decrease your draw length to keep your anchor. I even thought about trying out the Stan Onnex, but it too has a longer neck. If you are just starting out, these releases with the longer neck are probably just fine, but if you are dialed in with a different release, your setup is likely to change to try out these newer ones.

[@johnnysteigenberger5703]

I thought you where gonna hunt with an index release because of that cold weather and in the pocket situation you had?

[@elncalls]

What happened to the perspective on an index release that you had a rant video a while back? Just curious.

[@ElkShape]

INDEX = great option for elk hunting where things happen fast... that hasn't changed! Thanks. -DS

[@StarryBoar]

I bought the Hinge 2 first, bad mistake as I'm still a really new archer but love the quality and when I'm able I'm sure I'll love it also but once the button came out.... game changer. I love the look, it feels fantastic, the adjustability is superb and of course the quality is top teir. The first button I had was the B3 Exit Pro. Good button but lacked features. I opted for the stainless version and really like the weight in my hand. I'm definitely a fan of the UV button and the price to me is quite frankly irrelevant. A lot of us guys, myself included, are spending north of 2k on just a bare bow these days so I don't get all the negativity towards the cost when it benefits the whole system. I see those people as the kind that spend 1 or 2k on sick decked out hunting rifle and then cheap out on the glass. At the end of the day I'm a fan of what UV is doing and stoked to see what a V2 will bring.

[@jayonez137]

Your spending north of $2K on a bare bow? What are you shooting. I buy a new Mathew’s everything other year. I just ordered a new Lift 29.5. $1100 out the door for bare bow with new Mossy Oak bottom land upgraded color. That’s my cost. But even full retail cost is way south of $2K

[@jasonrodriguez6416]

The real question is are u changing releases or sticking with Carter?

[@tehype765]

ElkShape always promotes new products but if you watch what he ends up using its always the same old stuff he's been using forever. Always Be Promoting?

[@letsgobrandon8375]

No way he is giving up 1/2 an inch in draw length and changing everything that goes along with it. 1/2 inch in draw length is a huge change.

[@Farmersforever1993]

I love the adjustable trigger. I ran it all fall and was really impressed with the feel. My draw length was definitely off alittle. I normally shoot 27” draw but had to shorten it by having a smaller d-loop. So I’m about 26.75 to maybe 26 7/8” draw. Otherwise, I also run the Hinge 2.0 and it’s literally the same as the Button. So getting switching between them isn’t an issue. Only real problems I would say is price and a longer neck for draw length considering inwas shooting a Nock-2it before other than that it’s great.

[@tsi-rocket4144]

Mathew's need's to offer rotating mods to adjust draw length period! Too many other manufacturers' offer precise draw length adjustment on rotating mods so you can easily switch from a thumb to index release and vice versa. I was also butt hurt when I had to buy 2 different mods from mathew's to switch releases... As I grew as an archer I moved away from mathew's for this exact reason. I like to switch releases between target and hunting and like being able to micro adjust my draw length instead of messing around with d loop length to get my precise draw length. I will note mathew's bows run 3/8" long and they only offer 1/2" draw adjustment mods. Mathew's owners are like ford/chevy owners and will buy something because they are brand loyal(or are sponsored by mathew's) while i prefer the best bow for the money and have no brand loyalty. Many bow manufacturer's offer a better bow package than mathew's for 2023. As much as I like my mathew's traverse(and yes I have shot the v3x 29/33 and the phase 4 33) I wont buy another one until 1) they dump zebra and put decent strings on their bow with the twist everyone else uses(as I have a lot of helical arrows setup for about every bow but mathew's as the main string on mathew's is twisted the opposite way) 2) offer rotating mod draw adjustments and 3) although not a big deal but I prefer bows that offer allen wrench tuning options aka elite/bowtech as buying tophats and pressing my bow was a pita vs using an allen wrench to adjust the cam over or basically "yoke tuning" with an elite bow's SET setup.

[@supergnarbros5839]

Can you take me on a Scheels date?

[@chadeastman4832]

I liked it but I like my Stan onex better

[@jeffrossi3645]

love mine

[@sapperROSS]

If you're a hunter, just get a wiseguy and don't bother with these silly releases.

[@brockpeck7073]

😂

[@brockpeck7073]

Okay Cam Hanes

[@sapperROSS]

​@@brockpeck7073 man thanks for the compliment! Just remember your guy Dan uses a index for hunting also, im guessing he doesn't for most his shooting is sponsor reasons.

[@brockpeck7073]

@@sapperROSS I dont think he's sponsored by Carter. Or ultraview