Ellie Finds Out How Joel Lied About The FireFlies - Last of Us 2

[@crunchgirl6787]

“I know you wish things were different I wish things were different. But they ain’t” Basically sums up the whole story of the game.

[@redelingerhugo8742]

That's right. Wonder why ND felt like 25 hours of suffering was the right way of tolding it.

[@shelbywu9084]

Right of the bat. Best Last of Us Summary I ever heard.

[@emmanricafort14]

Ellie - "if you ever lie to me again I'm gone you will never see me again" Turns out to be Ellie will not see Joel forever 😭

[@emmanricafort14]

@Zack Smith just wait

[@_simpforjiroukyouka_7493]

@Zack Smith Okay Abby fan

[@captaincringe8785]

@Zack Smith kzbin.info/www/bejne/i16rd6ZvbL5ja5o

[@Soldiereasy]

@Zack Smith LOL you think Fireflies can develop vaccine by sacrifice Ellie. look at covid-19 every Medical Institute say they need a year to develop the vaccine and you think one surgeon in a deteriorated hospital have capability to develop the vaccine!!! Even if that miracle happened, the doctor successfully make vaccine. how you going to massproduct vaccine, in a deteriorated hospital with 15 years old medical equipment and Expired medicine supplies yeah good luck with that.

[@zack8865]

@Zack Smith ok guy with lgbtq+ flag as his pfp

[@g3tshotheett]

When eille mentions the hospital Joel: *Intense sweating*

[@user-ju1co7zo5i]

Imagine the pain Joel would’ve felt if he did go along with sacrificing Ellie only for it to be in vain because the cure didn’t help

[@expired-deku7130]

everything i've seen of Joel in TLOU2 really comes across that ND wanted to paint him as the bad guy....

[@thehound1359]

And they completely failed. They have Abby trying to save children and trying to make her likable but that failed too

[@damonbeardy-neepin3197]

I love Joel always have always will. But he did singlehandedly screw the world by killing the last person who could make a cure. He’s a good man he just made a bad choice.

[@thewonderofu627]

Considering the fact that the infection is known to mutate and Evolve I highly doubt a cure could actually work on top of that could the fire flys cure actually work on a cure there base of operation is a run down hospital and there Equipment is most likely not state of the art also how would they deliver the cure humanity is divided into different Factions scattered arcoss the world and the Military were at war at one point and most likely still are with the fire flys chances of the fire flys making a cure is unlikely

[@philipshatokhin4073]

well, he is obviously not a "good guy" either. He's killed a lot of people and got what he deserved

[@alphagamer9505]

they didnt paint him as a bad guy,there arent bad guys or good guys,joel saved his daughter,but that doesnt take away that he murdered abby father

[@tjjordan4207]

What gets on my nerves is that Joel never brings up that the Fireflies never thought to give her a choice. Not to mention the very low possibility of it working or that if they had succeeded, they would have kept the vaccine for themselves in an attempt to control everyone. The Fireflies were ruled by a council, and it wouldn't have mattered what Marlene or Abby's father would have said about doing it for the greater good, they were lower in the chain of command.

[@bongobutsforlife2953]

It's more about how Elilies guilt for not atleast giving the world a chance at getting rid of the infection and that all of the fireflies died for her to live. You can tell just by how she reacts to it all that she probably would've said yes to the operation regardless.

[@mardukandvladitor]

This was a scene we all knew would eventually happen and it’s heartbreaking

[@parkourchris3958]

Is anyone else getting these weird blue/violent coloured flashing cutscenes?

[@emersonvolkova6715]

It’s censoring the scene.

[@parkourchris3958]

At first I thought I was tripping out but at least now I know it isn’t me.

[@leavemaualone2295]

I thought my phone was broke or something hahha

[@emersonvolkova6715]

Wow This dialogue is so out of character for both Ellie and Joel. It almost feels like a Lifetime movie.

[@_androo_9202]

how

[@omcdude64]

If this was a lifetime movie, Joel would have been molesting Ellie

[@faizmisrak7776]

The game should ended after this scene..

[@scopeyui240]

Yes and Ellie hug Joel

[@mugrootbeer454]

If they ever make last of us 3 they should base it in an alternate reality where the whole of this game never happened besides the flashbacks.

[@paxpenguin8735]

Trump when will you build that wall

[@mugrootbeer454]

tj seth when Naughty Dog makes a better Last of us sequel.

[@paxpenguin8735]

Oh soooooo never

[@mrmaclovin255]

That's stupid

[@crybabybirb7011]

-me tearing up- Ellie dont talk to your father that way ;n;

[@quentinminor3848]

That's not his father

[@crybabybirb7011]

Quentin Minor That’s the joke friend

[@hazard4194]

Quentin Minor he is tho

[@yedukrishna8613]

There was no cure -joel PhD MD World renowned medical expert. Apparently

[@ajet0452]

How does this change anything? The fireflies weren't good people and a cure wouldn't have saved anyone and they were doing this without Ellie's consent. They were fucking awful!

[@gmrikuzo6751]

After joel has been killed.. I cried until this games end... But... Its never end :')

[@lildumb9387]

Is it only me or is the screen randomly flickering blue?

[@reven06]

The blood

[@that_oneguy6132]

You guys gotta realize that joel was good in the fact that he saved ellie but everything he did was to preserve his own sanity so it was for himself so ellie never got a say in what happend to her and yes i know the fireflies were evil and ellie likley would not have cured the cordecyps.

[@ORION00119]

It wasn't even a cure it was vaccine

[@ДимашБекбол-ю5и]

Dipper: Riley! Riley: I’m in here! [Dipper bursts into the room, breaking the door with his shoulder.] Dipper: The hell was that? Riley: It’s just some animal. (They found a Agencies sign) Dipper: Well, let’s get a move on. I want to get a fire going before it gets too dark. C’mon.

[@cfrench3196]

The whole thing with Joel killing the doctors is pretty stupid, literally he could’ve knocked them out and take Ellie out of the hospital and the whole story about “revenge” will just get thrown out of the window.

[@todayisdomingo]

I cannot remember but the doctor had a pistol on that scene?

[@zack8865]

@@todayisdomingo he pointed his knife towards joel

[@ValianTheRELover]

@@zack8865 it aint even something like a combat knife though, it's a scalpel

[@Literallyryangosling777]

If the doctor wasn't so dumb to try to stop a the guy that almost killed the whole fireflyes

[@ElhijueputtsPR94]

Well Joel killed the doctor IN THE FIRST GAME. so dont pin that on Part 2

[@romeodesilva9408]

This scene is so beautiful. Makes me cry to know that they ruined the story so fucking bad. I was emotionally void after playing that. Wasted sm potential.

[@RuiSen1]

Dawg people are complaining about how they changed Ellie and Joel and I can kinda agree but at the same time you have to understand how much time they’ve been in peace now.

[@greenpeace4246]

I don’t understand why Ellie was so angry about Joel. After all he did what he had to do to save her life even though he did that out of selfishness. She should be the last person who feels upset over it. Is it really that hard to understand why Joel who develops into a father figure would choose the life of his “own daughter” over the whole world? After all these years and everything they both had been through together, you would have thought that Ellie would have more understanding of Joel’s feeling toward her. I hate the fact that Ellie just walked away and was willing to throw away their relationship just because he loved her “too much”. In addition, if Ellie felt upset because Joel makes her feel guilt trip about failure to become the world savior she meant to be, then i have to ask if she cares so much about humanity then why she never feels empathetic towards other people’s lives in the story? She kills a lot of people wether it’s for anger or survival. Her constant behaviors have not been consistent towards her feelings here. Therefore, i don’t buy the fact she’s upset because Joel chose her life over humanitarianism. Her anguish seems very ridiculous to me.

[@loisarends3968]

Two words: Survival's guilt.

[@calliefinck6275]

they didn't even tell her, let alone give her a choice in the matter

[@manuprakashgupta4531]

Nobody likes the story of the game.........but it is the more real one By the end Abby spared ellie even after she killed that pregnant woman Eventually ellie had to do that too........sad that she didnt do it soon enough

[@Mr.Scott86]

Dont know why she didnt, she killed her friends and her father figure and nearly killed her and her pregnant girlfriend

[@massojupiter3436]

It's a video game where zombies exist and one man can take out a 10 man group by themselves, "more real" has no place in this game. Plus if we're going with "real" the game should've ended in the first one. Ellie would've died by the plenty of people that tried to kill her and so would joe. The first game relies on "less real" than anything else.

[@ORION00119]

If it was "more realistic" abby would be dead

[@joseluisariasabed6894]

Ok Guys, this is ok in fact. Joel's lie would bring consequences sooner or later, we all knew that. If only they had continued with this story line and perhaps a situation where Joel had to sacrifice his life for Ellie and that at the last moment they could tell each other what they feel, that they could say goodbye, they deserved it, we deserved it God damn it, maybe Joel in his last words sees Ellie in the eyes: Go kiddo, go and save them, save them all, It's your destiny. And after continuing with the subject of the vaccine now at the hands of Ellie, I don't know, I'm not a writer, but they could take many different paths but they chose the most infamous and disrespectful for the characters and the fans. It's terrible what they did to the franchise.

[@SaviHow]

Honestly though, why the fuck did they have to make a sequel? It's so hard to believe that this shit is made by the same team who made the first one. The emotional moments in the first one were so great because there were genuine bonds with believable characters and believable conflicts. Meanwhile this one just drops everything for shock value. It's really easy to tell the difference between games/movies made years ago vs games/movies made recently. Everything is so fucking attention grabby now, while trying to maintain a "Oh gosh sorry I hope I don't offend anyone :D" look. I really hate that shit.

[@xthefinalbulletx43]

Technically the only person from the original team is drunkmen everyone else had already left at this point

[@hellfish2309]

I don’t understand this sequence at the end of the flashback; like who wrote this shit on the walls? It’s some super self indulgent design

[@anthonygarcia6299]

Unpopular opinion but I I wouldn't mine a part 3 and that showing the 20 year build up to the last of us. Cause him and tess had to do alot of shit to alot of people. And I'm sure they had to do some dark shit.

[@mgbomb11]

I just wanted another game focused on Joel and Ellie!! Was that so hard Neil 😩

[@seldrick6717]

now we have another character that is put on category of "The One Who Left Behind" and that is Joel :(

[@yedukrishna8613]

Idk why but I cried a little

[@Thesudanesemuslim]

They did joel so dirty 💀💀

[@christopherhettema6496]

...... Sorry I decided to save your life?

[@vyepez500]

Maybe what's on Ellie mind is that, her life would have had a meaning if she died there for humanity, also, the death of her family and friends would have not been in vain thanks to her sacrifice.

[@oal422681]

Let me get this straight. Joel loses his "daughter" not once but twice and get smashed in the head by a golf club and then Neil Druckmann says "nobody cares about Joel more than I do" !!!! Yeah right !

[@ElhijueputtsPR94]

Him getting smashed with a golf club is the concequences of his actions. Deal with it. Joel's no hero and he had it coming

[@ORION00119]

@@ElhijueputtsPR94 no one is a hero and getting tortured? No he didn't have it coming simply killing him fine. Not to mention it was a vaccine that MIGHT have worked.

[@Sydney12997]

@@ElhijueputtsPR94 wtf

[@siggiriggi8988]

damn that was really good

[@GodofBoris]

Dare I say it, this is the best game I’ve ever played in my life.

[@smashi_tv4344]

You clearly have not played enough games.

[@ericrahman7932]

Gameplay ❤ Story 💩

[@Dreamlink91]

i love the last of us a looot but i am so so scared to buy the game.... i feel like i am going to get mad or dissapointed

[@lexiasmith5246]

Yeah I recently played the 1st game on PS5 and I love it so much and I heard what they did to there story, oh my God Don't get me wrong I think the game play is probably amazing but the story sucks Oh yes I am afraid of buying the game also