Elliott Offers Walt A Job At Gray Matter | Gray Matter | Breaking Bad

[@theWn123]

The next time they saw each other, Walt’s the most wanted man in America and threatening Elliot’s life

[@brianking2365]

Damn, and when you think about how they just turned on the tv one day to see walt's face plastered on every channel.

[@anything8953]

And it turns out two idiots with laser pointers are the best hitmen west of the Mississippi.

[@jakethedog8561]

@D jango methheads*

[@patrickl6987]

Yea Elliot really didn't do anything to deserve how he was treated. He seemed like a pretty decent guy. Altho we don't know the full backstory of him so we can only judge from what we've seen. But the little evidence we did have made it seem like Walt had a serious jealousy of him.

[@GQFJB]

Don’t forget Walt also hired the 2 best hitmen west of the Mississippi.

[@razbaybee8336]

In an alternative universe he takes the offer and the credits start rolling

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

😂😂😂

[@tanto88]

So its gonna be Breaking Good

[@itplus7]

@@tanto88 gluing good

[@niggacheese5904]

@@itplus7 fixing good

[@asturianix9820]

In both Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad, the main characters could've taken good job offers and have all of their problems solved in a legal and ethical way. But their own ego made them take the wrong path and end up doing terrible things... That ultimately destroyed their lifes. So they are the only responsibles of their fate and the consequences of their actions.

[@n.kelati]

sorry elliott, i asked my ego and he says no

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

@@jesusisgod2953 weird ass

[@abdurhman2961]

@@jesusisgod2953 If he's God, why not just forgiving the sins without him getting humiliated and killed?? You guys must've thrown away your brains to believe in that. No offense though

[@jesusisgod2953]

@@abdurhman2961 Why doesn't the courtroom judge just let every single criminal go when they say sorry? Just say sorry to get out of prison? Why doesn't he do that?

[@abdurhman2961]

@@jesusisgod2953 The one who committed a crime must be punished, not his children! Not the judge! How do you believe a God gets killed by the people he created? Who was God while he was dead? Who was ruling tge universe?

[@jesusisgod2953]

@@abdurhman2961 You cant pay the price for your redemption and if God gave you what you deserved you would end up in hell with no hope. God paid the fine for you. Death is the separation of body and Spirit, it does not mean the person has ceased to exist. The Spirit of God taken on flesh, the flesh died. God is omnipresent so he can inhabit a body on earth and still be in heaven. You sound like a Muslim. If you are a Muslim I would point out that even the quran demonstrates has an example on substitution. Then We gave him the good tidings of a prudent boy; and when he had reached the age of running with him, he said, ‘My son, I see in a dream that I shall sacrifice thee; consider, what thinkest thou?’ He said, ‘My father, do as thou art bidden; thou shalt find me, God willing, one of the steadfast.’ When they had surrendered, and he flung him upon his brow, We called unto him, ‘Abraham, thou hast confirmed the vision; even so We recompense the good-doers. This is indeed the manifest trial.’ And We RANSOMED him with a MIGHTY SACRIFICE, and left for him among the later folk. ‘Peace be upon Abraham!’ S. 37:101-109 A.J. Arberry According to the above, Allah ransomed Abraham’s son from being sacrificed by personally providing a mighty sacrifice. Note how others translate the phrase, "mighty sacrifice": According to the above, Allah ransomed Abraham’s son from being sacrificed by personally providing a mighty sacrifice. Note how others translate the phrase, "mighty sacrifice": "a tremendous victim." Pickthall "a momentous sacrifice." Y. Ali "a Feat sacrifice." Shakir "a tremendous sacrifice." Asad "a great sacrifice." Sarwar "a Splendid victim." T.B. Irving "a mighty victim." Palmer "a noble victim." Sale "a costly victim." Rodwell The only problem here is that the Quran doesn’t identify what this mighty sacrifice was. Was it some kind of animal? Was it the ram mentioned in Genesis 22:13? The problem with appealing to the Bible is that the Genesis account is actually a foreshadowing of the death of Christ in place of sinners, being the very Lamb of God foreseen by Abraham. Thus, if we turn to the Holy Bible for clarification, then we must conclude that the mighty sacrifice that the author of the Quran was referring to is the Lamb of God, the beloved Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The Muslim would be quick to respond and say that the Quran could not be referring to Jesus as the substitute since human sacrifices are condemned. Our response would be, where exactly does the Quran condemn the possibility of a human being dying in the place of another person? Now, a Muslim may wish to point to passages stating that a person's works can only benefit himself/herself (cf. 6:164; 17:15; 35:18; 39:7). The problem with appealing to this set of passages is that there are other passages that clearly contradict them, verses which say that a person can in fact bear someone else's burden (cf. 16:25; 29:12-13). Hence, if the Quran agrees that a person can bear the sins of others, then a Muslim has no valid objection against the death of Christ on behalf of sinners. Furthermore, the ahadith state that Muhammad's intercession will merit salvation for Muslims in hell, despite all the evil they have committed: Narrated Ma'bad bin Hilal Al'Anzi: We, i.e., some people from Basra gathered and went to Anas bin Malik, and we went in company with Thabit Al-Bunnani so that he might ask him about the Hadith of Intercession on our behalf. Behold, Anas was in his palace, and our arrival coincided with his Duha prayer. We asked permission to enter and he admitted us while he was sitting on his bed. We said to Thabit, "Do not ask him about anything else first but the Hadith of Intercession." He said, "O Abu Hamza! There are your brethren from Basra coming to ask you about the Hadith of Intercession." Anas then said, "Muhammad talked to us saying, 'On the Day of Resurrection the people will surge with each other like waves, and then they will come to Adam and say, 'Please intercede for us with your Lord.' He will say, 'I am not fit for that but you'd better go to Abraham as he is the Khalil of the Beneficent.' They will go to Abraham and he will say, 'I am not fit for that, but you'd better go to Moses as he is the one to whom Allah spoke directly.' So they will go to Moses and he will say, 'I am not fit for that, but you'd better go to Jesus as he is a soul created by Allah and His Word.' (Be: And it was) they will go to Jesus and he will say, 'I am not fit for that, but you'd better go to Muhammad.' They would come to me and I would say, 'I am for that.' Then I will ask for my Lord's permission, and it will be given, and then He will inspire me to praise Him with such praises as I do not know now. So I will praise Him with those praises and will fall down, prostrate before Him. Then it will be said, 'O Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for your will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers! My followers!' And then it will be said, 'Go and take out of Hell (Fire) all those who have faith in their hearts, equal to the weight of a barley grain.' I will go and do so and return to praise Him with the same praises, and fall down (prostrate) before Him. Then it will be said, 'O Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to, and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers! My followers!' It will be said, 'Go and take out of it all those who have faith in their hearts equal to the weight of a small ant or a mustard seed.' I will go and do so and return to praise Him with the same praises, and fall down in prostration before Him. It will be said, 'O, Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to, and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers!' Then He will say, 'Go and take out (all those) in whose hearts there is faith even to the lightest, lightest mustard seed. (Take them) out of the Fire.' I will go and do so." When we left Anas, I said to some of my companions, "Let's pass by Al-Hasan who is hiding himself in the house of Abi Khalifa and request him to tell us what Anas bin Malik has told us." So we went to him and we greeted him and he admitted us. We said to him, "O Abu Said! We came to you from your brother Anas Bin Malik and he related to us a Hadith about the intercession the like of which I have never heard." He said, "What is that?" Then we told him of the Hadith and said, "He stopped at this point (of the Hadith)." He said, "What then?" We said, "He did not add anything to that." He said, "Anas related the Hadith to me twenty years ago when he was a young fellow. I don't know whether he forgot or if he did not like to let you depend on what he might have said." We said, "O Abu Said! Let us know that." He smiled and said, "Man was created hasty. I did not mention that, but that I wanted to inform you of it. Anas told me the same as he told you and said that the Prophet added, 'I then return for a fourth time and praise Him similarly and prostrate before Him me the same as he [sic] 'O Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request): and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, allow me to intercede for whoever said, 'None has the right to be worshiped except Allah.' Then Allah will say, 'By my Power, and my Majesty, and by My Supremacy, and by My Greatness, I will take out of Hell (Fire) whoever said: 'None has the right to be worshipped except Allah.'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 601) If Islamic tradition allows for the ransoming of Muslims on the basis of the merits of Muhammad, then Muslims have absolutely no grounds to reject the Christian position that Christ merited salvation for sinners. We even find Islamic tradition teaching that humans, specifically Jews and Christians, will be thrown in hell in place of Muslims: Chapter 8: THROWING OF NON-BELIEVERS IN HELL-FIRE FOR BELIEVERS AS DIVINE GRACE AND MERCY Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your RESCUE from Hell-Fire. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6665) Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit IN HIS STEAD a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire. 'Umar b. Abd al-'Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6666) Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with AS HEAVY SINS AS A MOUNTAIN, and Allah would FORGIVE THEMand He would PLACE IN THEIR STEAD the Jews and the Christians. (As far as I think), Abu Raub said: I do not know as to who is in doubt. Abu Burda said: I narrated it to 'Umar b. 'Abd al-'Aziz, whereupon he said: Was it your father who narrated it to you from Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him)? I said: Yes. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6668) Please note that these traditions clearly say that Allah will forgive the sins of Muslims and spare them from hell by punishing Jews and Christians in their place! This is a form of substitutionary atonement and vicarious atonement, with the difference being that instead of punishing one person Allah punishes countless numbers of Jews and Christians in the place of Muslims!!!

[@KennyG881]

Just imagine how many lives would've been spared if he just accepted the offer.

[@SpookyDreamsGames]

tbf, it wouldn't had been much of a tv series if he did take the offer lol

[@Impersonal66]

Lives of Tuco, Hector, the cousins, Gus and a bunch of smaller drug dealers. They deserved to live, fuck Walter.

[@slofury]

And Hank

[@elektrykwysokichnapiec5767]

And Mike...

[@Diego-hh3wd]

And a plane

[@trevor6433]

When Walt said in a future episode he looks at the company price every week, it was honestly kind of sad. All his life he looks at what he could’ve had.

[@sauljimmytakavic4286]

Yet, he left it..

[@trevor6433]

@@sauljimmytakavic4286 yeah I know but still

[@pryo2460]

@@sauljimmytakavic4286 so u can work with ur ex dating ur best friend???

[@sauljimmytakavic4286]

@@pryo2460 what do you mean??

[@Hysteria98]

But it wasn't just a mistake he made. The implication was that he left because he couldn't get his own way and/or felt inferior in the face of something else. The entire premise is that Walt always let the ego make his choices- and subsequently made more choices looking back on the ones he should have made.

[@riiddisbuk2496]

"I did it for me." This is the most evident of scenes.

[@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_]

I love how it was just as cathartic for Skylar as it was for the audience. For the first time since this whole thing started, Walt finally told her the truth and we as the audience felt that right along with her.

[@riiddisbuk2496]

@@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_ Indeed.

[@spacemann1425]

It's normal and it's pride. He doesn't want to beg in front of other people and wants to pay for his treatment on his own.

[@riiddisbuk2496]

@@spacemann1425 He had a choice. He chose poorly.

[@hals6118]

@@spacemann1425 sometimes pride is worth swallowing.

[@winterhaydn5640]

I was waiting for Elliot to flap his ears and fly away...

[@nguyennam1945]

Winter Haydn xdddd

[@jtommagic4516]

that would be magnificent

[@Genum221]

LOLLLL

[@jtommagic4516]

Peter Wright you may be Wright, sadly it's often the case :c

[@winterhaydn5640]

@Peter Wright - It actually popped into my head while watching this. But I'm glad someone else also had the idea … those ears are somewhat annoying.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

From Season 2 Episode 6 _"Peakaboo"_ Gretchen: You left me. Newport, 4th of July weekend. You and my father and my brothers and I go up to our room and you're packing your bags, barely talking. What? Did I dream all of that? Walt: That's your excuse to build your little empire on my work? Gretchen: How can you say that to me? You walked away. You abandoned us, me, Elliott. Walt: Little rich girl just adding to your millions. Gretchen: I don't even know what to say to you. I don't even know where to begin I feel so sorry for you, Walt. Walt: Fuck you. It's laid out clear from that moment. Walt was visiting Gretchen's family at the incredibly wealthy town of Newport, and left. When she brings that up, he refuses to answer why he did that, and instead attacks her as a "rich girl." In their previous meeting at Elliot's birthday from the episode "Gray Matter" we saw Walt's sad smile displaying longing and regret when he lays eyes on Gretchen and how uncomfortable he was at the party seeing the Schwartzs' wealth and being amongst many distinguished scientists, engineers, and businessmen. He was embarrassed when he mentioned he was an educator to the other successful scientists and they asked him what university he taught at. By Season 2 Episode 3 "Bit by a Dead Bee" as Walt is being questioned about his fugue state he says: Walter White: My wife is seven months pregnant with a baby we didn't intend. My fifteen-year old son has cerebral palsy. I am an extremely overqualified high school chemistry teacher. When I can work, I make $43,700 per year. I have watched all of my colleagues and friends surpass me in every way imaginable. In the following link Gretchen's actress Jessica Hecht gives us the backstory. www.amc.com/shows/breaking-bad/talk/2009/05/jessica-hecht-interview "Vince Gilligan told us exactly what went down between the characters off screen: We were very much in love and we were to get married. And he came home and met my family, and I come from this really successful, wealthy family, and that knocks him on his side. He couldn’t deal with this inferiority he felt - this lack of connection to privilege. It made him terrified, and he literally just left me, and I was devastated. Walt is fighting his way out of going back to that emotional place, so he says, “F- you.” ... In the following link Vince Gilligan himself gives us the word of God. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vince-gilligan-walter-white-gray-matter_us_56e85f27e4b0b25c91838d57 “It ends with him being so nasty to her saying, ‘Fuck you,' and then she leaves tearfully,” said Gilligan. “In my mind, the interesting thing here, and I always kind of hate to nail it down so explicitly - but let’s put it this way, most viewers of ‘Breaking Bad’ assume Gretchen and Elliott are the bad guys, and they assume that Walt got ripped off by them, got ill used by them, and I never actually saw it that way.” Gilligan explained that the truth is more nuanced. It all stemmed from White’s feeling of inferiority while spending time with Gretchen’s family. “I think it was kind of situation where he didn’t realize the girl he was about to marry was so very wealthy and came from such a prominent family, and it kind of blew his mind and made him feel inferior and he overreacted. He just kind of checked out. I think there is that whole other side to the story, and it can be gleaned. This isn’t really the CliffsNotes version so much. These facts can be gleaned if you watch some of these scenes really closely enough, and you watch them without too much of an overriding bias toward Walt and against Gretchen and Elliott,” said Gilligan. .... From: Season 5 Episode 6 "Buyout" Walter White: Jesse, have you heard of a company called "Gray Matter?" Jesse Pinkman: No. Walter White: Well, I co-founded it in grad school with a couple of friends of mine. Actually, I was the one who named it. And back then, it was just... oh, it was just small-time. We had a couple patents pending, but nothing earth-shattering. Course, we all knew the potential. Yeah, we were gonna take the world by storm. And then... This, uh... Well, something happened between the three of us. And I'm not gonna go into detail, but for personal reasons, I decided to leave the company and I sold my share to my two partners. I took a buyout for $5000. Now at the time, that was a lot of money for me. Care to guess what that company is worth now? Jesse Pinkman: Millions? Walter White: Billions. With a "b." Two point one-six billion as of last Friday. I look it up every week. And I sold my share, my potential, for $5000. I sold my kids' birthright for a few months' rent. Walter White: Jesse, you asked me if I was in the meth business or the money business. Neither. I'm in the empire business. Walt has both an inferiority and superiority complex. He feels insecure that all his peers have surpassed him, and around other geniuses like Gale. Yet he has a massive ego and believes he deserves more. Hence why he could not work with someone like Gale and needs someone like Jesse to feel smarter and boss around. He never would've said yes because of his fragile ego.

[@MrUndertaker22]

DoctorWeeTodd this comment deserves more likes

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

@@MrUndertaker22 I think it's just TL;dr but I put it up there for the slim hope that anyone still deceived by Walt's perspective that the Schwartzes are the bad guys would read it. I don't think I can ever convince the ones delusional to call Gretchen a _gold digger_ when Elliot and Walt were demonstrated as being once only able to afford discount instant ramen while her family was already worth in the conservative estimate of hundreds of millions* and presumably bankrolled the company. *Having a home in Newport means owning a giant mansion which in the cheaper spectrum are worth tens of millions. And many of those homes are just _vacation homes_ for the 1% who reside elsewhere in luxurious real estate also owned by them.

[@tamachanusko]

This is some good shit, thanks. I forgot about this show but reading your post really jogged my memory and made me realize alot of things that I never knew

[@cesarsaldivar9127]

This was a lot of help

[@snitox]

Damn I have had a similar type of experience

[@Rude_Boi]

Fun Fact. Skyler never told Elliot that Walt had cancer. Elliot _heard_ it the night Walt told his family.

[@ekathe85]

But she pretty much admits she... oooh, I see. I see what you did. You... you're good you.

[@anguruso]

Underrated comment! Very good!

[@warrengordo6987]

Elliot been eavesdropping from miles away.

[@dorkbrandon4422]

Ok that's a good one I had a momentary spaz face until it clicked

[@zakirhossain7413]

His donkey ears u mean?

[@mchoppy7778]

Heisenberg was always there.... the cancer brought him to life

[@Alknix]

If only more people understood that.

[@PolishGod1234]

Heisenberg was the cancer, destroying everyone around him

[@scottfarrell5492]

That’s actually a really interesting way to look at it

[@saulgoodmanKAZAKH]

Heisenberg was always there. He was the reason Walt left Gray Matter

[@harmankang6883]

Heisenburger is everywhere

[@JackWiizard]

I gladly accept your offer. The end.

[@treyoftriphorya]

He didn’t feel he should be an employee at a company his contribution benefited off of and is worth billions.

[@saymyname2896]

@@treyoftriphorya Or pride?

[@_lithp]

@@treyoftriphorya No. He realized he was only being offered the job out of pity ... because his wife had probably told Dumbo about his cancer and maybe even asked him for a job.

[@Nai-qk4vp]

@@_lithp Dumbo?

[@MrWatcherQuiet]

@@Nai-qk4vp Big flappin' eared Eliot

[@MrOccyc]

That was sad to me when Walt realizes he’s being offered a job out of charity and not for his ability. It’s humiliating when you know people are only doing something out of pity.

[@zekeiwa5837]

The fuck are you talking about? Of course his ability also mattered, they wouldn't hire Jesse for the same position

[@londonisboss52]

It probably helps that Walt is a world class chemist

[@encrypt609]

@@zekeiwa5837 It does help that Walt is a genius BUT it was truly out of pity they don't need Walt as he already has a team of world class scientists look at Elliot's facial expression when he says "we have great health care, the best" the only reason he offered Walt This job was because he has cancer

[@Samuel-wm1xr]

@@zekeiwa5837 they didn't ask him for all these years until the cancer showed up. they may not have hired Jesse, but if Jesse was their old friend they would have offered to pay for the treatment like they did for Walt. This episode shows that Walt will not stoop to begging for handouts.

[@arthaiser]

@@londonisboss52 he was also a world class chemist before the cancer, were was the job offer them?

[@GodOfVictory501]

Can you imagine if Walt accepted this job and the entire series of the show was just him doing mundane things as a consultant at Grey Matter? lolz

[@calvin3005]

I am the one who consults!

[@davorbrijacak]

Or he would reclaim his ownership of Grey Matter by killing Elliott and Gretchen.

[@winterhaydn5640]

He would be chasing a fly around the office.

[@prabhatdixit9894]

Maybe he would have turned grey matters into Meth matters

[@josephleonard6695]

@@davorbrijacak with a pipe bomb

[@truedp23]

Looking back, you can tell Walt was actually talking about his old feelings for Gretchen, the regret that came from selling his shares, and his need to be his own man, when he brings up his personal issues. Him having cancer didn't even occur to him until Elliot brings it up. Such great writing and acting in this scene,

[@brosbeforeclothes6375]

I'm pretty sure he's just remembering that he has cancer. He went through his entire life regretting the decision to leave Grey Matter and it would be a little weird for him to forget that in the moment. The "wait a second" moment is him realizing that Skyler already told them about the cancer.

[@Palendrome]

Yeah Bros that's obvious but DP 23 is reading more deeply into the scene. They're talking about when Walt said he has "personal issues"

[@entidade1000]

that's one way to see it. Valid, but nobody but Gilligan can say this is what Walt meant

[@s.l5787]

Marcos Gomes You need to rewatch Breaking Bad. Walt's issues all stem from his ego. Why did Walt leave Gretchen? Because he found out he was dating someone from a very wealthy family and felt inferior. Why did he turn down the cancer money from Grey Matter? Clearly he was doing everything he could to obtain money for him and his family and Grey Matter offered a very simple solution to these problems. The answer again, is because of his ego. He never cared deeply about his cancer or his family as much as he cared about fulfilling his ego. That's the whole point of season 4 and season 5 when his cancer disappeared + he had more money than he ever needed, yet he still choose to be a major criminal.

[@entropy2728]

No it's definitely the fact he has cancer in this context. I understand what you mean but that look at 2:10 isn't him remembering he had cancer it's him realising Elliot knows he has cancer.

[@hannesjakobsson765]

2:07 That part is really well-made in my opinion. When Elliott mentions the health insurance, he misinterprets the act of Walt turning his head for excitement, when in reality Walt got offended.

[@1997BIGBABY]

Walt being offended just seems like a stupid thing for him to-do

[@theepicclips1024]

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[@lenawagenfuehr53]

@@1997BIGBABY Walt's ego made him do stupid things

[@yokatta-f]

@@lenawagenfuehr53 Walt being offended sums up the whole plot of Breaking Bad

[@Vapor817]

@@1997BIGBABY it's dumb but that's how emotions affect us. the ego that probably made him a genius growing up is now preventing him from taking the safe and stable way out

[@dylanwang8779]

Walter's cancer was probably due to the long term exposure of radiation from his radioactive ego.

[@boggy.subtitulos]

Mladen Bukvic They’re both linked though...

[@Studio2770]

Mladen Bukvic Walt's honor quickly turned into ego. He definitely has pride.

[@Beaver_Monday]

Mladen Bukvic And Walt's ego had nothing to do with honor lmao. Mike even called him out on that, and he got shot for it.

[@Pierce1996h]

@@Beaver_Monday Mike was someone who didn't let his ego get in his way and even called himself out for being soft on Lydia when he should have killed her for trying to kill his men

[@HeatyFrog]

Walt wasn't honorable, he was a P.O.S. who would rather stay in a business where he has to murder people than accept help from one of his oldest friends. That's ego

[@ross.metcalf]

Everybody hates on Walt for this scene because they know what he later becomes, but you gotta admit it does feel bad when you thought you were offered something because you were deemed valuable, but instead you find out you were offered it from because you were deemed helpless and pity was taken on you. I'm not saying you should refuse help when you need it, just that it stings.

[@TaxingIsThieving]

And the fact he doesn't go off on Big Ears about knowing about his health issues. He just silently lets it sink in. I must be the only one who finds Walt and Chuck sympathetic characters.

[@MultiEvil85]

I agree! A lot of people feel that way. You can't just ignore them and they say that's not normal behaviour.

[@PittsburghSonido]

That’s ego talking. Not accepting an offer, even if it is categorically charity, when it is needed is a sin of pride! Think of the lives damaged because Walt chose a path away from this one.

[@TaxingIsThieving]

@@PittsburghSonido But hypocrisy is the wrongdoing Big Ears is guilty of. If they'd really cared about Walt they'd have given a goodwill gesture when they got big. They set him up to react when they treated him with pity.

[@Alex-vl1mk]

@@TaxingIsThieving Walt would not have accepted that. His ego is too big to accept any charity. This is no fault of Elliot, it's the fault of Walt's ego. The fact that you think that this was a set up by them is weird

[@kekero540]

What gets me is that Gretchen and Elliot actually do appreciate the work he did for the company and feel bad he missed out.

[@DoctorChained]

Didn't seem like it in their interview.

[@Albertmg1]

@@DoctorChained Of course, imagine how much the company price would have dropped. Public and private opinion are different.

[@carson11100]

@@DoctorChained Their former friend and co-founder of their company is now the most wanted criminal in the country….. their company’s reputation is on the line as is theirs…. Of course they want nothing to do with him!

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

@@DoctorChained they still complimented him for what he was pre Heisenberg

[@maxi1ification]

@@DoctorChainedit's not like they can publicly defend a drug lord's actions

[@MistahFluffay]

Elliot was ALL EARS, listening intently. What a good listener.

[@jhupp8707]

Plot twist: Walt accepts the job. Then hired Jesse as an intern, together they invent the cure for cancer, patent it, and become billionaires. They save millions of lives. Walt even adopts Jesse, and becomes the father he always wanted. Everyone lives happily ever after.

[@12345starbucks]

Mike would be the security head, Gus would be the cancer medicine supplier, and Saul would be the legal head of the company. Such a positive series about helping others :)

[@tahabashir3779]

@@nav5738 And Gus would give free chicken to the Gray Matter employees.

[@kitzreads3064]

@@12345starbucks i love this whole comment thread so much

[@vasvas8914]

12345starbucks Fixin' Good

[@anassjebali5684]

@@kitzreads3064 same

[@cinezurdo]

I honestly don’t think this was JUST a pity offer. I think Elliot was being genuine when he said Walt was brilliant and could be a useful asset. Walt did contribute to a research project that was awarded a Nobel Prize and he basically built the foundation for Gray Matter. Despite their differences; I think Elliot really did want to help Walter get back on track and build a new relationship with him after he heard the news. Besides, them having excellent healthcare could mean Walt could have higher chances of surviving his condition.

[@kaua9905]

it doesn't matter what elliot's intentions are, what matters is that walt will always see himself as someone who was helped by him and that he didn't want

[@pisaschitt787]

Elliot and Walt both worked together, Elliot knows what Walt is capable of. Walt just has really fragile ego

[@joshuap5086]

It was a pity offer. Elliot saw him as a poor old person who didn’t have much to live for and wanted to be the good guy rather than a kind person. Elliot hides under a facade just like Walt, you aren’t seeing it.

[@ktheterkuceder6825]

​@@joshuap5086Maybe but still it wouldn't be this way if Walt had just stayed in the company and not give it all up for 50000 dollars. It all goes back to Walt inevitably. He left because his ego couldn't handle it. He was weak. He was never good.

[@nicbentulan]

What's your opinion of Howard's offer to Jimmy to work at HHM?

[@muffinman5741]

Cheer up beautitul people

[@babykangarootribbiani2766]

Very Nice it’s “beautiful” not “beautitul” but cheer up, this is where you get to make it right

[@AlvariuxGaming]

I felt good that Walt finally did that to Elliot and Gretchen.

[@Nimbus3690]

@@AlvariuxGaming you feel good that he got to terrorize and threaten the nicest people in the show?

[@AlvariuxGaming]

@@Nimbus3690 don't take it so seriously, walt is the main character of the show so it felt good that he got them back for the comment they both did on the news station. "Only contributed with the name"

[@Nimbus3690]

@@AlvariuxGaming I suppose. But what else were they supposed to do? Even if they thought the world of Walt (they did) they couldn't publicly associate their name with a high profile criminal

[@ethanharmer5151]

Walt chose his pride over his family. No matter how you want to spin it, rejecting this offer was purely selfish. This sene is proof that he lied about the true reason he cooked meth

[@hi_mom_im_on_youtube]

yeah no shit he literally said at the end that he did it for himself

[@exu7325]

@rw89 If you've got cancer (especially with infamous US healthcare) there's really no middle ground between accepting charity and prioritizing your pride.

[@hamsterfromabove8905]

@rw89 You can either fuck your family over for pride. Or accept charity. There isn't a middle ground. Because the cost of health care is far too great for Walter to pay for without either crime or charity.

[@theepicclips1024]

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[@HunterAllyn]

What's fascinating to me is that before now, he really was cooking the meth and doing everything for his family. Ego and pride hadn't factored in nearly as much into his decision making process, it was all out of desperation. But after this, when he has all he could ever need laid out in front of him, and he rejects it purely for his own selfish reasons, it's when none of the decisions afterwards are justifiable.

[@juanwayne66]

elliott could have gotten walt working for him if he gave him the “what does a man do” speech

[@usul573]

Yeah Gus was smart as shit to know which buttons to press.

[@karshenglee7229]

Underrated comment

[@xanperna]

Elliot is not gangster like that

[@robertdineiro2866]

@@karshenglee7229 yeaah i feeel that tooo😫

[@Archiekins_]

underrated comment fr 😂

[@mohamedfouad2304]

"Nah i shall go the entrepreneurship path"

[@dd-iy7jw]

underrated comment

[@mohamedfouad6492]

@@dd-iy7jw entrepreneutship is not for everybody

[@alainportant6412]

@@mohamedfouad6492 you have the same name as the other kid

[@eleri1802]

1:21 you can see the anger of years in his face

[@shanez1215]

Bryan Cranston is such an insane actor, like the sheer amount of emotions he had to portray in 5 seconds.

[@theepicclips1024]

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[@nickromano3391]

Elliot really doesn't owe Walt anything. Imagine you and your friend building up a company. Your friend puts in hard work, then leaves. Walt dumped his hard work and progress on Elliott. It was his choice to leave. What was Elliot gonna do? Stop the company because the guy who did hard work left? It's nobody's fault but Walt's. He walked away from an opportunity and was salty because it turned out to be successful.

[@mossymoose8920]

@Julián you hate that he’s right?

[@NoOne-ks9kd]

@Julián he is right

[@Pepegalord]

@Julián he just puts 1 and 1 together

[@S.O.N.E]

@Julián grow up

[@robertisham5279]

Why exactly did Walt leave anyways?

[@sakkasufle6326]

Elliot: Come work with me! Walter: Ok - Elliot starts off Walt at $400,000 as Project Manager - Walt moves his family to Santa Fe - Jesse overdoses with Badger snorting Chilli Meth - Jane still lives and goes back to school to be an Industrial Designer - Gus Continues his meth business but is taken down by Hank. - Hank is promoted and moves to Washington D.C. - The two planes never crash and the scientist who discovers the cure for cancer is on one of those planes - Walt watches Holly grow up to walk her down the aisle on her wedding day THE END

[@hoiman2356]

Gus would have killed Hank easily without Walt's interference.

[@IraqieGirl541]

Wow this could be a spin off if done correctly lol

[@LokiTheClever]

@@hoiman2356 Yeah that and Hank might have gotten zero leads on gus if Gale was still alive

[@Omerkosar]

There is no way Hank can take down Gus.

[@persey7241]

Walt would have died anyway, he already got the best cancer treatment with his own money and it bought him just about a year. And yeah, I also don't think Hank would have had any way to catch Gus on his own, but the rest is spot on, lol

[@TheNari007]

It was Walt Who basically built the company and now Elliot offers HIM a job. Along with the Cancer issue, Walt saw it as an insult.

[@nahor88]

It's demeaning, but you do what you have to do for your family. Taking the job would've paid for Walt's cancer treatment (which ultimately significantly delayed his cancer), and would've kept him on the right side of the law, saving lives and keeping his family together, instead of his meth empire killing some innocent people and ripping his family apart.

[@davorbrijacak]

nahor88 Building meth empire wasn't for his family in the end, it was about archieving something "great", something he failed to do by selling his shares in Grey Matter.

[@mat8eo273]

Its so humiliating

[@pshomeboy2191]

"we got good health insurance" bitch, you owe me millions

[@emperorreign6154]

I can see why he’d be insulted and why he’d find it demeaning but by the sounds of things, it was Walt himself who left his own company, AND sold his shares for a few thousand dollars, over what must’ve been a minor fallout with his friends (seen as he still talks to Gretchen and Elliot rather warmly and occasionally). He’s extraordinarily bitter about the past but ultimately, he has no one to blame but himself over his own actions.

[@colorado841]

So good acting...his facial expressions. He just nails it.

[@jeremie_coh05]

Bryan Cranston is amazing

[@Peopleboy100]

i love when the health care gets brought up walts wondering how he knew about his cancer then he looks at skyler and realised she's been telling people

[@BungieStudios]

I love how this beautiful scene sets up Walt's character for future episodes. His pride, his ego, his paranoia that people are out to step on his back, stand in the way of anything that makes sense or is handed to him. Walt doesn't want to be the employee. He wants to be the boss. Anything handed to him he sees as an insult. He takes what he wants as he sees fit. And while he might love his family dearly, he doesn't care about them. The dangerous trade he entered put them in danger at every turn. If it were simply about his family, he would have taken this offer. He would have taken Gus' offer. He would have taken Gus' mercy. He would have shredded that book from Gale. But no. He always has to probe a little further. Defy rationality. See how far he can go and win. Like a gambling addiction. Like Walt said about being Heisenberg: He liked it. He was good at it.

[@haroldgamarra7175]

He is brilliant, and superior to those two. He only wants to be the boss, because is what he deserves. Bad desicions are just an excuse to take what is his.

[@josephk1342]

@@haroldgamarra7175 Nobody deserves anything.

[@whitneyv.8211]

I don't think he even likes his family

[@youmakenosense7437]

He cared about his family, they simply weren't his main priority.

[@chadzahirshah2588]

@@josephk1342 Time to release all the criminals from prison I guess since “no one deserves anything” am I right?

[@rickvelvet8983]

I love the parallels to Howard offering Jimmy a job to HHM, which ultimately leads to Jimmy and Kim scamming and later his death. Both kind gestures unknowingly striking the deepest nerve of fractured egos and changing things forever.

[@austinboylan5476]

Vince actually said they wrote this episode because they didn’t want Walt’s justification to be too clear and to avoid plot issues (why it would take so long to make the needed money) This is the moment you know Walt is not in the meth game for his family (at least not completely) as he turns down a great job with health insurance that would have covered his treatment because of his pride, resentment and self-esteem issues.

[@DerekWong967]

Would the insurance cover pre-existing conditions?

[@jodomo4279]

@@DerekWong967 Big corporations with executive health benefits usually do.

[@seethetruth3795]

What do you like fucking know everything or what? Don’t tell me what to think dad!

[@Samuel-wm1xr]

begging for handouts. period.

[@sw1rly801]

@@seethetruth3795 damn

[@IAmNumber4000]

Love when shows have moments like this that seem small at the moment but end up causing huge butterfly effects as the show progresses. A sign of good writing

[@guitarninja416]

Walter: The offer is really appealing, really is, but theres something you should know…. Elliot: WHAT DOES A MAN DO WALTER

[@WillyDrengen]

Ego isn't the only thing, it's respect. He got offered the job because of his health, Elliot was nice to a man who had no options left. Walt didn't decline the job because of ego, it's the lack of respect Elliot showed when offering the job out of pity.

[@Cheezer3089]

Exactly, it was just pity talk.

[@Misterz3r0]

A man's ego gets in the way of peace and stability.

[@joerogaine3093]

It was more than ego. Walt was a co founder of Gray Matter but sold his share in the company for a measily $5,000. The company went on to become a $2 Billion company (thanks to Walt's research). His share would have been a third of that, so he missed out on $700 million. Imagine accepting the job after that and being an employee for your Billionaire ex business partner.

[@youngvices7938]

What a life

[@bigdogtabooya5426]

Man and woman, we're all the same

[@joerogaine3093]

@@bigdogtabooya5426 "All the same"? That sounds like communism brother

[@bigdogtabooya5426]

@@joerogaine3093 no just a simple fact that beyond social constructs and hormones, men and women are the same

[@prezidenttrump5171]

I love that moment of recognition. The "You're not doing this because I matter to you, you're doing this because you feel sorry for me, don't feel so sorry for me" look.

[@Alknix]

"Well, we didn't matter to you, Walt. You left us to fend for our own, and we've managed just fine. I'm not going to pretend otherwise now."

[@kingkunta3753]

@@Alknix so they shouldn't have taken pity on them, the bastards

[@bebo2629]

@@Alknix The sad thing is that I do think they cared for him. It is Walt's view that this job was just pitty.

[@A1_Amir]

@@bebo2629it is pity though. Rich people just don’t understand a poor person’s self value of themselves is rigid and hard to uplift due to circumstance.

[@javierburgos7]

Guys, you have to understand that even from the very beginning of the show, much before the Heisenberg transformation and drug incidents, Walt was always written as a character who was a smart guy in general but who also had an extremely huge and abusive ego. He was always the type of person who thought he was the best at everything and that the world always owed him favours no matter what he did or did not do. His attitude towards life made his entry into the world of drugs/crime very smooth. At least thats how I see it.

[@mechadoggy]

Indeed, this is a show that highlights the contrast between book-smarts and street-smarts, IQ vs. EQ, intelligence vs. wisdom.

[@davidcross9811]

‘Working for’, not ‘working with’. ‘A little rusty’ That’s where Elliot went wrong

[@stipem]

He didn't owe Walt shit.

[@battaglino77]

Plus he abruptly mentioned the health care and pushed to get an answer immediately. He should've sent an offer letter to Walt afterward and gave him a chance to breathe.

[@kyleboyles9563]

Stipe Milardović yeah he kinda did. The only reason Elliot got rich was because of walt’s hard work and research

[@johnrankin7135]

@@kyleboyles9563 pretty sure Walt says that when he left they only had a few minor patents pending, and then after he left it became a multi billion dollar company, so I think you need to check your math there.

[@kyleboyles9563]

@@johnrankin7135 I mean Walt was the only genius in the group so they probably had stuff they didn't show the public yet

[@LiberalSquared]

I think this is Walt's single greatest mistake. He took this offer as charity, but one, there's no problem with charity, and two, a job is clearly not charity. He would be working for his money. He helped form the company anyway, he'd be perfect for that job, and it would have solved all of his problems.

[@shaunhunterit342]

Still wasn't Skyler's right to disclose the information about his cancer

[@matthewriley7826]

Walt’s single greatest mistake, and even he admits this, is selling his shares in the company in the first place. He tries to justify it saying he was “artfully maneuvered” into leaving but we all know it was pride and an unknown incident with Gretchen’s family.

[@zenituragaming5043]

@@matthewriley7826 according to the creator it was an inferiority complex due to Gretchen's family being filthy rich

[@Danny-hu9tv]

I mostly agree. However, "theres nothing wrong with charity" is a personal perspective. There are people that wont accept hand-outs. I have nowhere near the genious of Walt, but I also consider myself to be an underachiever, as of now anyways. There is no way I take a handout in my career

[@cowboyga1]

​@@Danny-hu9tv are you dying of cancer while your family is struggling for money? There is no way I take a handout in my career. Yeah sure buddy

[@LaggardlySort]

0:31 'What's stopping us' Elliott your British accent is showing

[@flanplan5903]

Well, his actor is from the UK, but usually has a great American accent (very rarely slips), and when there are emotional moments or what have you, accent slippage can happen.

[@MkeKen67]

@@flanplan5903 - The same guy (Adam Godley) plays the British auditor in the too short-lived Lodge 49.

[@b.ballooon9225]

@@MkeKen67 I only remember him as the British guy from the show Suits.

[@NorwinYT]

2:09 Just look at the face Walt makes when he realizes Elliot really doesn't need him and only wants him to pay for his cancer. Just pure realization and disapointment.

[@johnwayne8494]

I mean obviously he doesn't need him but if he proves his worth than he could climb up the ladder again.

[@jesselicon328]

1:21 that long silence is amazing. You see so much in Walt as he loves having his ego stroked being called brilliant. There's some pride in his way, but he entertains the idea that he can work with his old friends again after so long. Then his face falls some because he knows that he won't be able to work for very long and he has to say something. Meanwhile, Elliot is anticipating his answer, begging he says yes so he can help save his old friend's life.

[@fellino8049]

This is exactly what Mike's talking about. "You! and your pride and your ego! you just had to be the man." Walt's refuses not because Elliot feels pity for him, but because of his ego. He wanted to be the man in Gray Matter, don't want to be someone's subordinates.

[@maxb7194]

Seems pretty fair to me

[@bentencho]

It's sad because while Walt may have felt it was charity, Elliott most likely didn't. Just moments before, Elliott was sharing a heart-felt moment with all the guests about how he and Walt used to survive on instant ramen together, that he still cherished the time they shared before. It appears they haven't really kept in touch much throughout the years and this is probably the first time he heard of Walt having cancer. So he just wants to make sure his friend is able to battle cancer with the best resources out there. If Walt didn't want to feel like he's getting charity, he should have just thought of himself as a legacy cost.

[@usul573]

What if Elliott offered to hire Walt before he got cancer? Walt could finish out the school year and give a two month notice he's leaving. On some level Elliot is getting that little chemical fuzzy feeling of offering a guy with bills help. Now that's still a nice thing to do, but yes it's charity in a way.

[@maxpowers4436]

@@usul573 Nothings wrong with charity, charity helps people. The debate should be whether or not he is doing it out of pity which Walter thinks he is or just his ability. Thats life some times you dont connect with family or friends for a long time and only something negative brings you together.

[@g3bab]

I guess he thought that Walt doesn’t care about the company anymore and he didn’t want to make the first step to rebuild the burned bridge between them until he heard about Walt’s condition

[@carson11100]

@@usul573Walt severed all ties with them…. even before getting cancer he would have absolutely refused to return to Gray Matter….. being one of the cofounders it would be utterly embarrassing to him to go back there and with beneath Elliot and Gretchen….. don’t forget that was almost 20 years prior…. In all that time he never once asked to come back.

[@Sombrita00]

​@maxpowers4436 Can be just both?

[@fluffyg5446]

If walt took the job, he would've saved everyone's life around him. Instead, he turned him down and created a chaos for around him

[@eintreich1014]

Mike was absolutely right about Walt

[@shayannezhad9379]

the boom

[@josephleonard6695]

you...and your pride...and your egooo! you just have to be the maaan!

[@Aywusgod]

Out of every single person on the show, Mike was the only person who could see right through Walt. A manipulative wild card. Walt could silver tongue just about anyone, except Mike. I think that's why Walt killed him, because he knew Mike was right about his flaws. But he just couldn't accept it, so during that desperate outburst when he shot Mike, in Walt's mind he had decided at that point to make Mike the bad guy and delude himself he 'was forced' to shoot him so he could justify it to himself Mike was wrong all along.

[@thehound9008]

@@Aywusgod he killed Mike because he was angry and couldn't controlled himself and he didn't give him names. Later he realised that he could take names from Lydia and it was pointless because Mike wouldn't give him names no matter if he shot him or not

[@ForsakenDreamer7]

@@thehound9008 Walter didn't understand that at the time, but he had to kill Mike. If he was left alive he would never leave the killing of his men unpunished.

[@spearshake4771]

This kind of proves that he didn't go into making drugs just for his family. A great deal of it was also because he felt too proud to accept a job from a guy he ended up hating.

[@kkknotcool]

I don't think so. All it proves is his ego wouldn't allow him to do it. All it proves is his ego was more important to him then his family. One the ego eliminated this posable way out he still had two choices, bankruptcy for his family or drug dealing. Drug dealing was the better, for his family, of those two options. (at least if he didn't let his ego run wild with it)

[@spearshake4771]

@@kkknotcool Yeah your right, I mean it's not like he got greedy or anything and killed off his boss and the whole operation and basically jeopardized the livelihoods of his family and everyone who ever worked for Gus or him.

[@kkknotcool]

@@spearshake4771 Life is a series of decisions. You have to analyze them one at a time. And we are talking about this scene, this moment, this decision.

[@MajinSaha]

He should have said "Uhm, Elliot, thanks bro. You know what. Let me first see how my meth stuff is gonna go. If I don't see any hope there, I'll give you a call".

[@kevinkibble8342]

On my rewatch I realised this is the episode where Walt's descent slowly begins. This scene, and the way it ends with him going to Jesse's house to ask him if he wants to cook again.

[@rodneymiller195]

The way his face shows all of the emotions without words is absolutely amazing and this scene and the garage scene with Hank is the epitome of acting

[@linollieum3742]

I think Walt wanted to initially but keep in mind to him, this was his company that he lost. And theyre treating him as "a new set of eyes to think outside the box" That turned him off I think that he was being viewed in that way so he tried to just say he cant due to his illness and then that was the only reason the job was being offered. Pity. People acting like he could have just taken it dont know what its like to live with an ounce of pride

[@siddharthiyer2177]

This show is basically a summary of how a man's ego can destroy him so much

[@dawkinshater101]

2:07 this is the most important line in the entire series.

[@kennethso6811]

In the real world. I would take it in a heart beat. A wife and two kids. I would put my pride aside and do what it takes.

[@happypumpkin7956]

You're not the one who Knocks !!! Just kidding lol !!

[@johnt8977]

Right on. Many people let their pride and ego get in the way and end up making decisions damaging to themselves and their own family. I personally know some people like that and it’s sad.

[@maxb7194]

You dont know what feels like to have 6 months left to live then

[@anprabh1]

Being in Walt's shoes, I would be hurting myself to work as an employee in the very company I founded, under someone that I was romantic with, whose husband I was supposed to be... Even moreso if that job was offered by her husband.

[@bgbkjbkhjuzg1154]

oh so it hurts a bit boohoo. better make drugs start killing people and destroy my whole family. gus was right, a man provides for a family no matter what. look how walt provided for his family LOL

[@jonathantan2469]

I think that's what happened to Steve Jobs at Apple in the early-middle years. Heck, he even got fired from Apple, and Apple later bought over the company he founded after he got sacked.

[@haroldgamarra7175]

@@bgbkjbkhjuzg1154 It's not ok to be under inferior people. Walter did something big at the end. Evil, but something more memorable than being under his exgirlfriend and her husband.

[@alanrcastro8580]

@@haroldgamarra7175 and so Hitler did. I don't get your point

[@jamesmadison6090]

@@bgbkjbkhjuzg1154 you’re pretty stupid lol

[@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH]

"There's something you should know, I'm in the early phases of building a meth empire"

[@siddharthiyer2177]

The biggest thing i have learned from this show is that an ego can destroy a man far more than any drugs or other vices

[@voteZDLR]

If only he took that job. Hell, if only he had never left the original position he had (co-founder) to begin with. He'd be swimming in money, legitimate money, this entire time. But he quit, his pride and his ego and his hubris caused him to quit. Something he never forgave himself for, and something he resented them for having anyway. It wasn't their fault, it was his. Walt left Grey Matter right before it hit the jackpot and with work he was mainly responsible for, but because it was under their banner and it belonged to them more than him and he resigned anyway, in his mind they stole his work but legally speaking they didn't. He was a fool to leave, but again, his pride and his ego has always been his most undermining quality. Things I love about this scene, when Elliott says "I miss this." and Walt says "Me too" the first thing out of Walt's mouth is "We should really get together more often, you and Gretchen should come over to MY house for dinner", and then Elliott offers him a little job. It'd probably be just what he needed legally speaking, plus he'd get the best health insurance you can get just for working there, and he turns it down because in his mind he is still 1/2 of that company but of course Elliott isn't ever going to let him have THAT position again, he'd just be given a mercy position basically as an employee because of course Skylar told him he has cancer. This would've been the smart thing for Walt to do, but of course that ending would've been boring, wouldn't it? He bows for no one.

[@subscribeofficial7134]

he bows for no one, not even world

[@Creeporium]

It's not that he blames Gretchen and Elliot for him quitting, but it's more that they act like he had nothing to do with the company's success - absolutely nothing at all. This entire scene is degrading, and this notion is emphasized later on when Elliot claims that Walter had nothing to do with Gray Matter except the name. The reality is that Walter was practically responsible for the success of the company.

[@voteZDLR]

@@Creeporium Well, to be honest other than some of the initial research he really DIDN'T have that much to do with what the company ultimately became. Would he have benefited and enjoyed a share of Grey Matter's future successes if he stayed? Absolutely. They may have even been able to do more, faster, if he stayed on board. But suffice all of that, that wasn't the case. I disagree with the idea that he was solely responsible for the success of the company. He left in it's infancy when a buyout was only worth $5,000. He should have patented the research to his name instead of Grey Matter, then at the very least Grey Matter would have to pay him to use his research. It wasn't like it was just Walt, Elliott and Gretchen as the three employees of Grey Matter, either. By the time we meet Walt in BrBa that company has grown into a corporation that has hundreds if not thousands of employees, and each of them are going to be contributing work and research of their own. Walt just sort of helped lay the foundation. They were the ones that finished building it, without him.

[@fearless1024]

2:14 Elliot looks like some kind of demon in the shadows...

[@AltanodMandakh]

Al Barleta gollum hha

[@SuperMrBentley]

thats how most millionaires look

[@veronica33s45]

Lol he actually looks like some pervert sociopath serial killer from criminal minds

[@gerardod.h.198]

This is the exact moment Walter refuse Elliot's job offer

[@AnthonyHirsch]

Love this scene and that it happened so early on, it's like a dream scenario that's actually Walt's worst nightmare right now

[@ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551]

I never understood how Walt never got a job as a chemistry teacher at a better school or college? He’s obviously overqualified and probably the most smartest teacher at his school. Like couldn’t he apply to other places and potentially get a better deal

[@theboard3476]

Always refer to this scene when someone tries to defend Walt’s actions and say he did everything for his family. Literally everything from this point on, Walt does for himself.

[@d3athr1ps90]

“Walter, we have great meth insurance”

[@sw1rly801]

Bro, what is yo pfp.

[@ForsakenClarity]

@@sw1rly801 😂

[@zeal0tseven57]

Why do I read that in Mike's voice

[@lovecraftianleviathan8918]

Elliot: We have excellent health insurance. The best. Walt: Who told you I have cancer?!?! Elliot: *wiggles his ears* No one.

[@legion5938]

Elliot's ears are so powerful he could hear the cancer spreading through walt's body

[@3hutp]

This would have been by far his best chance to earn enough money for his family. It's legal, no violence is involved, and he can do what he's best at. On the other hand, this would mean he'd go back to the company he cofounded as an employee and work with his former fiancé he probably still has some feelings for, and his friend who's now Gretchen's husband. It's hard to blame him for not taking it.

[@existinguser7788]

Also worth pointing out that walt built the company and now Eliot is offering HIM a job. And Walt was also the best at making meth, nobody could ever reach his 99% purity throughout the show.

[@subscribeofficial7134]

If only he took that job. Hell, if only he had never left the original position he had (co-founder) to begin with. He'd be swimming in money, legitimate money, this entire time. But he quit, his pride and his ego and his hubris caused him to quit. Something he never forgave himself for, and something he resented them for having anyway. It wasn't their fault, it was his. Walt left Grey Matter right before it hit the jackpot and with work he was mainly responsible for, but because it was under their banner and it belonged to them more than him and he resigned anyway, in his mind they stole his work but legally speaking they didn't. He was a fool to leave, but again, his pride and his ego has always been his most undermining quality. Things I love about this scene, when Elliott says "I miss this." and Walt says "Me too" the first thing out of Walt's mouth is "We should really get together more often, you and Gretchen should come over to MY house for dinner", and then Elliott offers him a little job. It'd probably be just what he needed legally speaking, plus he'd get the best health insurance you can get just for working there, and he turns it down because in his mind he is still 1/2 of that company but of course Elliott isn't ever going to let him have THAT position again, he'd just be given a mercy position basically as an employee because of course Skylar told him he has cancer. This would've been the smart thing for Walt to do, but of course that ending would've been boring, wouldn't it? He bows for no one

[@mickeye6428]

@@existinguser7788 If Walt had built jack shit his stake would have been worth a lot more than $5,000.

[@usul573]

@@existinguser7788 He was considering it, but when Elliot mentioned the health insurance, Walt views the offer as pity charity.

[@rampageclover9788]

Fuck both of them...it’s his work that’s driving that company. I wouldn’t have blamed Walt if he decked Elliott right there...they wouldn’t be living in that house if what wasn’t for Walt and they know it...pair of condescending pieces of shit

[@fattt0ny362]

Arguably the most important decision Walt made in the whole show. If he said yes here, it all would have ended and he would have had a very well-paying job. This scene right here shows that Walt always, in his own words, did it for himself.

[@SeansModelBuilds]

It's amazing how we never know at the time when we face a Timeline Diverging Moment.

[@sakkasufle6326]

Elliot most likely would have given him a high 6 figure salary which could have setup Walt's family for life. We all get it, pride and self respect is important but this was a potential life changing opportunity that Walt stupidly spat back, 99.9999% of people would ha e accepted Elliot's offer.

[@ciaranoconnell4783]

The real mistake was not offering him something big 20 years ago. I don't care who you are. I don't care if Walter sold his shares for peanuts and he was weird to Gretchen over some inferiority complex. If I am Elliot, I am begging Walter to come back out of sheer principle. You don't just coast along as a fucking billionaire and live the high life off your friends' genius whilst he struggles. At the very least, you cash him a multi million dollar cheque EVERY YEAR soon after the company goes big. Walter White has many personality flaws but I cannot say I blame him for being pissed that his old friend only thinks of offering him a job because he has CANCER. That's a great insult. The guy is a billionaire because of White's genius and it's only pity that gets him to give him a tiny bit back? Fuck him. Elliot is a bastard even if Walter is an annoying, prideful idiot.

[@sac9162]

Ciaran O'Connell k

[@ding6227]

lol walter took 5k USD and left and of story. i dont see why elliot should give walter free money as elliot builds up most of the company

[@wilsondesmond8022]

That's implying that Walt wouldn't burn the checks every single year, the dude has ridiculous ego issues and you think he'll take what's look to him to be pity money?

[@cobolt13]

@@ding6227 You idiots are the reaosn the world burns for the 1 percent. It's about respecting the people who gave you what you got.

[@geraldineporres3857]

Are you Walter White?

[@LonnyH]

Great lesson taught here. Its revealed right here in season 1 that it was never about his family or money. It was about pride. If Walt could have swallowed his fuckin' pride and admitted that he needed help - admitted that it was a good move from his wife to get him the job offer, he would have retired at 60, wealthy and cancer-free. Taking 10 seconds to calm down and realize the actual smart move, and he would have taken a senior position at the company he helped found, brought in a cool 300k/year, and had an actual relationship with his wife and son. All because of pride. It made him, and then it ruined him.

[@ethancbaker2002]

Actually I think Skylar didn’t tell Elliot or Gretchen about Walt having Cancer so they actually wanted to hire him anyways

[@nieppdam7147]

i read through comment and see so many of u missing the point.. walt refused the offer the moment elliot mentioned "health insurance" that was the moment he realised that skyler made the whole thing up and elliot offers him a job JUST because the health insurance not because they really need them. thats why he refused that destroyed his ego

[@Thepopcornator]

What's great about this scene is how it shows Walt's tragic, Shakespearean hubris. He has an opportunity to take an extremely well-paid job in his field, which would provide for his family and give him a great chance at possibly beating his cancer. However, he can't accept it because his core motivation is actually not necessarily to survive or help his family, but to feed his own ego.

[@LifeOfRy]

“You’re a little rusty” PFT Walt could run rings around Elliott

[@johnwayne8494]

I'm not sure, Walt was smart but he certainly exaggerated things and a lot of it was simply bluffing his way through problem.

[@LifeOfRy]

@@johnwayne8494 I disagree entirely. What did he bluff his way through and what did he exaggerate? His genius level intellect is one of the facets of Walt that surely can’t be denied.

[@tomas957]

Elliot: You and I should work together again Walter: Ok *Outro starts playing*

[@parkender1833]

If Elliott was ever Walt's friend he should have hired him immediately when things started going well

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

How do you know he hadn't offered before?

[@parkender1833]

@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Because when he offers Walt the job you can see how shocked he is at being offered it

[@parkender1833]

@Zxylo 5 He didn't insult her at the time

[@Xehanort10]

It was Walt who left Gretchen and sold his Grey Matter shares to her and Elliott because when she and Walt were dating he couldn't handle that she was richer than him. Then when Grey Matter became successful without Walt he acted like he'd been kicked out and cheated out of his shares when he hadn't.

[@bruhvenant]

@@Xehanort10 it’s a sticky situation because it was entirely Walt’s fault that he got left out, but also the show seems to imply that Walt’s contributions were a big part of why Grey Matter became successful in the first place. But in the end, this scene is basically Elliot trying to pay him back for it all. It could’ve been worded more tactfully, it should’ve came sooner, but he was essentially giving Walt a free pass to a better life. A free pass he ripped up because of his ego. Gretchen and Elliot were not saints, but they definitely weren’t villains by any stretch of the imagination.

[@jenniturtleburger3708]

Walt’s pride is what lead to his own destruction and those around him.

[@bradleyriley7573]

I just love that this whole show is based on Walt’s prideful selfishness and the bad decisions he makes because of that. He’s constantly making decisions for himself to boost his ego at the cost of his and his family’s safety. It’s like this the entire series until he realizes that’s what he is doing.

[@peri5552]

I was recently rewatching the series almost after 10 years, and I realized something. Since we know how Walt ends up with his ego and all, we all think Walt here is declining because of his ego, but I don’t see it that way. Have you ever been in a situation like this? For some people, myself included, this feels so bad, not because of what Elliot did or anything but just, bad. Especially for people who had accepted someone’s help in the past to just to be reminded constantly of how they’d been helped by that someone. Besides; although Walt rejecting at first, what really ticks Walt off is the part that Elliot mentions the health insurance. Most people until that moment, would’ve considered the offer out of merit, friendship, common past; but after that mention which hinted that Elliot knew about the cancer, would have made it about one thing: pity. No matter how genuine the offer was about helping a friend, Walt felt it was out of pity, and can’t blame him, so would I. Yeah, Walt has a big ego and is an underachiever but some people due to character or personal experience may not want help, or feel awful like Walt does here.

[@justsomeguywithasandwich5906]

“We have excellent health insurance” That one line changed Walt’s last chance back to a normal life.

[@nikotsapaliaris4919]

If Elliot just kept it as a job offer and didn't mention the insurance I'm sure Walt would of taken it. He would of gotten the insurance anyway.

[@Jimmymatthewb]

This is the moment where Walt could have remained Walt, and still provided for his family.

[@concernedspectator]

The sudden sobriety in his face at 1:31 says so much without saying a word. Bryan Cranston is such a great actor. Breaking Bad was the perfect stew of the best ingredients.

[@animefightlover4686]

Elliot seems like a chill dude. He really tried to help Walt.

[@paulinezugzwang1773]

Gilligan has said that this was his proudest thing about breaking bad. Also, the song playing in the background is beautiful.

[@entidade1000]

this is the best show ever, there is no discussion about it

[@lorderik237]

Imagine if Elliott hadn't mentioned the "excellent health insurance." Walt very well may have taken the offer otherwise.

[@BRNardy]

It's actually sad to see how many opportunities to do the right thing Walt had

[@DailyDoseofShortsVideos]

If the show was realistic on that part Walter: Yes I’ll take the job! Elliot: Great! Walter: I have cancer Elliot: we have the best health insurance you can best it And so Walter won beat his cancer and lived a happy life with Skyler and his baby girl Jesse kept selling shitty meth and probably died from Guses crew and or overdosing Gus killed the entire cartel exacting revenge And mike lives to be with his granddaughter

[@ahmadwiraputraselamatphd4303]

and there is no "Breaking Bad" that we loved for 5 seasons

[@Dantheman-bw8hv]

Happy ending for everyone except Jesse

[@childs4sale336]

that would be it. Wow

[@karlwa641]

Saul never runs a cinnabon

[@alfa01spotivo]

thats not realistic, thats changing walt's whole personality you hack

[@derekmann8239]

On my second watch of the series, this is where I lost sympathy for him. If it was truly about the family, he wouldn't have refused.

[@basetoace3951]

And then there are people hating Skyler just because she's "annoying" and fucked Ted.

[@parkerboy795]

Even Gilligan said this is his first step toward evil.

[@jdjdirdjoekdj4djsn448]

He refused because of Gretchin, He refused because of he was getting an invite to his own company

[@parkerboy795]

@@jdjdirdjoekdj4djsn448 Wasn't his company anymore. He chose to sell his shares and walk away. Just like he walked away from Gretchen.

[@dlink4300]

@Christian Montgomery No.

[@fijiunlimited4503]

Walt would rather die penniless with his pride than accept pity. Good for him!

[@jackperry6269]

sarcasm/

[@falecomigo]

2:07 The moment Elliot revealed that his offer is CHARITY

[@StudioMod]

This was exactly what Walt needed too. He needed this kind of project and instead he chose to use his energy being bitter and prideful. It was the way Elliot sold it to him; he failed to include the fact that Walter was an important part of Grey Matter.

[@cleonRIP]

I still feel this overwhelming feeling of pity and disrespect on Elliot's part. To think he can "work for" a company that he built.

[@anthonycolasanto5599]

He probably could’ve copped an executive position at that job since he was one of the OGs at gray matter

[@kefkapalazzo1]

He could’ve just researched and discovered something amazing.

[@shanez1215]

For sure, just goes to show that it was about ego. Taking a job at the company you founded is demeaning, but so is making meth. If you're truly worried about your family's wellbeing, the choice is obvious.

[@Vindix007]

"Vanity, definitely my favourite sin" (John Milton).

[@jacobhiller6731]

I am never not astonished by his acting chops.

[@kekero540]

This is the scene that made me realize how repugnant Walt is. He’d rather sell math and endanger his entire family for the slim chance his earnings aren’t claimed by the DEA and they can live off of it, than take the slightest hit to his pride to avoid all of his problems.

[@ZenMonkeyGod]

Math: not even once

[@Limboinpinbo]

People that try to sell me math are the worst Like, I don't need your algebra, pal.

[@lenawagenfuehr53]

@@Limboinpinbo 😂

[@ShubhamGupta-hg9md]

what selling trigometry

[@kekero540]

@@Marzhin Walt “Jesse we got the Integrate the multi variable function!” Jesse “what are you talking about your just spouting nonsense at this point!”