Contact Point for Serve & Forehand Loop in Table Tennis

What is the optimal contact point on the racket when serving and doing the forehand topspin? Today, coach EmRatThich explains the best contact point to get maximized spin and speed of the strokes.
Mastering the contact point for each stroke is very important. It will help you make a deceptive serve. And improve the power of your strokes, which is the key of table tennis techniques.
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[@pingsunday]

For the contact point on the backhand side: Backhand push at (3,3) or (3,4). Backhand flick at (3,2). Read more at: pingsunday.com/contact-point-max-spin-table-tennis-serve/

[@tabletenniswithabp3468]

For Backhand topspin?

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[@ThànhTrungNguyễn-n8m]

thanks so much, very useful

[@KalpitSharma]

You are the best Table Tennis coach on KZbin...

[@JAYDEV402]

yes, that is what we expect from the SuperCoach EmRatThich... just superb... just EmRatThich...!

[@aideeonebaby435]

Hi PingSunday. I watch alot of your contents repeatedly week after week with others as I truly believe it takes a village to raise a child. I adapt this to my learning and comprehension of this great game. I say to you humbly, - Thank you for your wealth of knowledge. Thank you for time to even post what I consider to be gold(your videos). From someone who watched Waldner in his day to Xu'perman, Timo. . . . Ma and Zhang JK Thanks PingSunday Avid fan & believer - Shauny from New Zealand

[@ruelgrubio]

Such a very helpful tips and info Master! Thank you for sparing time in sharing all this.

[@letsgetwasted7698]

i love you coach few days back i have worked out on loosing down my grip and iam feeling that there is more readiness and more speed in a game

[@juliaspanish3309]

Great video thanks a lot. I'm having real trouble learning to serve , I'm hoping I can now put your good advice into practice 🏓 All the best to you and your family for the coming year 😀

[@gilbertoyaxcal6310]

Happy new year coach and all folks. As my first year ranking, I went up 2 categories it will be my best year (despite that i am over 50). i apreciate your efforts. THANKS a lot!!!

[@nikkelssonn6388]

Thanks coach. I have 3 different serves: Pendulum (side-top, side-back) similar stroke. Reverse Pendulum (side-top, side-back) similar stroke. High toss serve (nospin, heavy backspin) similar stroke. I only vary my contact, placement, speed of stroke. My coach says I have better serve than most of the players in my club, and thats because of your videos I have also made my strokes better with help of your videos. Its okay for you to take break sometimes you have deserved it. Greetings from Finland.

[@pingsunday]

thank you so much! Congratulation for your serve. Is it the set-up serve? or more an ace serve?

[@nikkelssonn6388]

EmRatThich Table Tennis Coach pendulums are set-up for forehand, reverse pendulums are se-up for backhand, high toss serves are trick/ace serves i use them and long ace serves to put pressure to my opponent on decisive points. By the way Im half Vietnamese and Im in Vietnam rigth now on vacation. :D

[@guati714]

Hi from Bogota Colombia, i would like many of this videos. I like the subtitles its very usefull for me i dont speak english very well and the subs help me a lot. Thanks EmRatThich

[@mohdjunaid1064]

Thanks coach for such a great video. I know it have taken a lot of time in preparation

[@axetrac10]

Loved the video...was very informative and useful

[@yl8908]

Thank you very much ! I am going to watch all your videos .

[@ХристоВлахов-п8в]

Thank you for the great explanation of the details of this amazing game!

[@pingsunday]

My pleasure!

[@LeoMatisse]

Thank you, I hope you make the same video for the backhand as well.

[@antiporfavor]

Good stuff in here. Now that I think, I remember that for my super topspin serve with high speed I hit the ball with the top part of the racket. Guess I never knew why I do that (untill now).

[@jimmyandersen1299]

Thanks keep doing all the videos :)

[@pingsunday]

More to come!

[@susanwakeman610]

Love your intelligent insights! I wish I started watching your videos a long time ago. You've helped me a great deal.

[@jaysharma5822]

FUCKING AMAZING. The explanation is near perfect with proper visualization. Keep up the great work

[@MattCM89]

Love your channel! You are one of the top table tennis lesson channels on KZbin! So much depth. Youve become like a virtual coach 😊. One question i have. Ive been told by many people I hit the ball too early, resulting in power loss and hitting the net. I worry about missing the ball so rush and hit early. Do you have any drills/tips on learning the "feeling" of when to hit the ball?

[@pingsunday]

Wow, thanks!

[@judithlatorza135]

I'd always watch your videos coach thank you for sharing.

[@reezrun899]

Good content coach😃!Thanks for uploading this video for us!!

[@snahartupas]

keren coach emratich !! big fan of your channel

[@pingsunday]

thank you 🙏

[@FedorMachida]

Great stuff, Coach! I will definitely try to practice these lessons.

[@nawanview1122]

Thank you coach 🙏

[@markterrin8673]

Very useful! A lot of European coaches teach different staff. According to them for example best contact point for fh loop is 4.2-4.3. But exactly as you said I find too many balls are off the table after hitting there despite the speed and spin.

[@yamlau]

Your videos are so excellent. Thank you

[@sandipghosh6854]

Excellent Clarification 👍

[@LironZhara]

thank you for the all tips you make because of yo i beat a 400 ranked player in sweden and i have played for 2 months

[@yaakovgov7650]

Well done ERT!!

[@YH-cq5qf]

Can you upload how to train my RPB and the correct techniques when doing it.Also,can you upload some CR videos?

[@urchin524]

Hi Coach, can you please make video on how to read on the kind of spin, and how to return the different types of serves

[@ulm287]

NICEEEE Thanks a lot for your videos i really look forward for each and one of them And i totally understand that you are busy :) If you would have tips how to make people move that would be very helpful, in a sense that for example : always jump after each stroke to one does not just stand still or sth like that :) Keep up the videos :)

[@osamrx]

How can I spin the ball more coach?? Can you do another video for this please ??

[@alic1433]

Finally, a new video! Thank you🔥

[@familiavitoriosanordeste]

Parabéns... como sempre, os seus vídeos nos ensinam muito.

[@eLdotC]

Thank you Coach Emrat

[@iJoyfull]

Please clarify the contact point on the racket is from top view or bottom view that make me less confused.

[@jesusnagao185]

What about the backhand? Does it have to be the same contact point as the forehand? Amazing video :)

[@paskaldominic]

Still I am confused with the grip. Should we tighten our grip at the point of contact when we hit the ball for top spin?

[@samuelmignot]

Thanks for your great videos! It is rare to find such advanced ones but it is so needed! I am a little confused when it comes to serve and the point of contact for max underspin. I agree 4.2 or 4.3 give you the maximum velocity and speed when flicking your wrist, but the ball cannot stay long on the rubber and I found it harder to put spin. I usually hit the ball on 3.1 or 3.2 and found it more efficient (for short underpin serve obviously). I my mind, the longer the ball on the rubber the more spin you have. What do you think? Thanks!

[@Humble_Bear]

3-1 for forehand underspin.

[@patrikpetersson8248]

I agree. For my side/underspin pendulum serve i think a contact point in the 3.1-3.2-region improves consistency (compared to the 4.1-4.2-region) and still generates very good spin.

[@jimilthakor3798]

Wowii easy to understand thnx...👍

[@danielfisher9695]

Hey coach, can you tell me a good blade for an offensive player who also mixes in some offset shots?(Chop Blocks and either sidespin forehand or sidespin backhand shots) Also, can you make a video on different types of wood in table tennis and combinations of wood that are best for your style of play. Mine is Ayous and Koto.

[@minplex7132]

Daniel Fisher Look in his Equipment playlist ^^

[@auralresource6243]

Gold! Thank you

[@icurtispe]

Excellent video! What about the serves with a J-pen racket?

[@josemariafinez5879]

Is the same technique also when you play with short pips? Thanks

[@toekneema]

Your video evidence did not prove the forehand loop contact point. The still pictures of the pros also do not necessarily mean they hit the ball where you stated

[@kapilellawadi]

Tony Ma Did you see the white marks of the new ball on Ma long's rubber?

[@toekneema]

and it seems like the contact is more in 3.2, rather than 3.3

[@tellmestraight]

Emratthich says 3.3 and 3.2 in the video. Plus I think you carry the ball a little at impact. So it could move from 3.3 to 3.2.

[@duckgoduckgo]

theres also the fact to consider that they may have done forehand push training

[@8uvrays]

I realized this the first time I picked up a bat. After playing for several months I had a long practice session with a new ball hitting both backhand and forehand topspins but flipped racquet randomly. I happened to glance down and noticed I had painted a solid line about the width of a popsicle stick across both sides of the racquet at about the top of zone three. Only two marks outside that zone. The rule is for more speed and spin hit the part of the racquet moving fastest, the lower tip of the racquet for topspins, the upper tip on slices with a shake hand grip. This is not necessarily true with all grips and orientations of the racquet. Holds true for tennis also. Find a good camera angle of a practice session and slow the video down to see this clearly. But if you cannot feel it you are gripping way too hard. Click on the three dots to change speed

[@ExtremeGameTT]

Very funny the arrows used to show the "3X3" point in some players, even when the ball y very far away from the paddle

[@wasiffarhan1329]

Hi coach, Thank you for all your tips! I had two areas I wanted to ask about. I am a modern defender who blocks/counterloops on forehand instead of chopping (like Filus). 1. I saw your forehand loop videos about how using wrist is University level and now this video about contact point. I've learned to weight transfer properly and can now hit 10+ loops consistently (I could hit more but as I am a modern defender I am focusing more on other aspects). SO, I find fixing my contact point and using my wrist both at the same time very difficult and I miss a lot. Should I firstly focus on fixing my contact point for fh loop and then go to using wrist? Or both at the same time? My coach never really told me to focus on contact point. 2. I saw in another video you told a modern defender to contact the ball lower. I also have/had the same problem but instead, my coach told me to keep my bat more open. Thus, I have semi consistent chops now without much backspin. This is also because I practised very fast multiball and developed a habit of a short stroke (almost like a chopblock). So trying to fix it now. Should I slow down multiball speed? And secondly how do I chop the very fast opening loops low at hip level? Since they are very fast there is no other option but to take it high. Thanks for all the videos!

[@Baki-mv8eb]

EmRatThich I'm thinking to make a setup with def blade and with attack loop rubbers so maybe I could get more control when playing my offensive game? What do you think about that, could it be possible?

[@andrewchen1853]

10 Million years later... his finally back!

[@vahidzafari2021]

For me works like this: point 1:1 for max underspin, opponent mostly shots to the net. For topspin against backspin, head of the racket, and for topspin rally almost the the point that Ma Long hits🙂.

[@BinBon1517]

A có thể chỉ giúp e cách tập luyện để biết được mình đã đánh trúng điểm cần ở trên vợt ko ạ?

[@manjushb2708]

welcome back coach

[@abdurrehmankhan5844]

I saw yunpeng guo video about this as per your suggestion.He says that firstly keep your racket flat when touching the ball and then close the angle while hitting. Any suggestion on it ?

[@khairulanuar3087]

Hi coach, how about backhand topspin or back spin?

[@mitchy98]

Hi Coach, can you show us the correct technique for short pips with shakehand grip on backhand? It is difficult to practise because no coach can help me improve my skills.

[@emilianolus9215]

Excelente como siempre!

[@khushboosingh7980]

Coach can you suggest me a good all round blade which is good for offence at amateur level

[@abdullah.ashoor2001]

hey coach , how do u analyse the Chinese philosophy in table tennis ?

[@desert1987]

Does the contact point vary when you are left hander?? For example when you serve reverse pendulum the best contact point is 4,3 but when you use left hand is it mirrored or the same

[@virenkundnani5320]

Desert Mirrored

[@lucianosaldivia5917]

I'm pretty sure you should mirror it

[@francescodemetrio5473]

Fantastic!!! Thank you very much!!!

[@andyzhaott]

Yay! A new video!

[@dimashevchenko1360]

Hello Coach! I know you are busy but is it right that you should not rotate your hip to the maximum? Just a little kick like Fan Zhendong but Ma Long uses his hip more and has a bigger arm swing. Fan Zhendong has a shorter arm swing as we can see in this video. One more thing about the hip, is how fast you should rotate the hip as I can see Fan Zhendong moves it little and slow. Second question is about where your free arm should be. Should it be still or make a follow thru? In a right handers case it is the left arm. I see that Fan's left arm is quite still and doesn't move so much. But Ma Long's arm is moving more and does a follow thru. So can you explain this? What are the posstives for both the hip and free arm? Thank you best coach I think more want to know this. Best Regards!

[@dimashevchenko1360]

By the way one thing, I think that the hip is used to transform the power from the legs to the hip and then to our arm. Is that why we use our hip?

[@aashirsidana7929]

Coach i have a question, why we loose the feeling of ball on the table we have never played?

[@andyzhaott]

Hey coach! If I have a blade that has a small sweet spot (Stiga Allround Classic), would it be the same point (3,3) or should I just aim for the sweet spot?

[@JAYDEV402]

Hey Coach EmRatThich, i have a doubt, will u pls correct it? Sir, Forehand is played outside the body line. (I m righty, so I have to hit the ball from the right-outside, extending the right hand) Should I play Backhands the same way, extending the hand to left-outside, or it has to be played within the body line? Thanks in advance!

[@teamzwaldner9800]

Plz help me i don't have proper action and always i chaged griping problem plz help me

[@shereifonline]

Hi Coach, what is the name of this school that train table tennis in the video please ?

[@addien5809]

Thanks coach👍👍👍

[@itsfate6535]

How does koki niwa execute the chop block??

[@tabletenniswithabp3468]

What about backhand topspin?

[@Stoic1990]

Respected coach can you please teach us the detail of Penhold grip. I use Penhold grip and I face a lot of trouble while playing. Please teach us through a video to correct me.

[@abdurrehmankhan5844]

Hey coach, I find it easy and comfortable to hit the ball at 3,2 while attacking(not loop) rather than 3,3 and i mostly see top players to attack at point 3,2 rather than 3,3 am i right?

[@sheedy9]

The music is 🔥

[@nikitonixgametv]

Hey, what is the music used in that video?

[@lowenherz2966]

NikitonixGameTV 2

[@user-xx1gq7nr9o]

I Find it extremely difficult to execute this shot, every time I try to follow the racket up until eye level the ball goes far away, so I try to keep the swing until chest-neck level so I can control the ball but ai feel like this is not the right swing for Fh tp, any ideas?

[@jane_is_best9752]

So thanks to your advise

[@federeral-taie3795]

can any body tell me the best contact point for push recieve ? and for backhand top spin

[@candylaria5414]

Coach ERT... Why is Zhang Jike not in the new ITTF Men's Top Players? Did he retire already? 🤔

[@lesgeekeursmobile8327]

Very Good vidéo

[@lannguyenphuong5229]

Cảm ơn bạn ! những bài của bạn rất bổ ích và thú vị

[@profesorpluto3532]

Backhand contact point?

[@kshitijkumarkushwaha8903]

Thnqq so much sir.

[@BrNk3]

stupid question... im left handed the contact point is the opposite?

[@Anupinsimi]

I see lot of players move back after they hit the first topspin and then continue attack. How to practice this art.

[@Kepalas89]

What contact point should be for topspin serves?

[@MegaBarrette]

Very helpful thanks/ Barrette

[@othioanh1509]

Thank you

[@MinhLe-pl8kq]

A có thể dịch tất cả video từ tiếng anh sang tiếng việt được không

[@tinnyunt4924]

Thanks

[@mrstantastic1990]

Anyone knows the background music? :D

[@mrstantastic1990]

I meant the first one :)

[@dimashevchenko1360]

New video yay long time ago

[@qomarqomarudin7307]

many thanks coach though a lot late

[@chebkhaled1985]

While I found most of your video informative, i just saw a video of "ma long perfect mechanics" and it seems he top spin at (3,1). Gonna try (3,4) today though in the training

[@safrimasdon199]

Hello friend , So base on ur experience, which one u prefer.. either contact point on (3,1) or (3,4).

[@RobertoCostas]

@@safrimasdon199 I think there is no difference either between 3.2 and 3.3 or between 3.1 and 3.4. The distance of 3.1 to the head or the side of the bat is the same as that of 3.4. Same reason for the other pair of zones.

[@ShopmaLLcomUa]

your arrows are not a joke!

[@The_Paddle_Smith]

pause at 6:16 lol. People ask some ridiculous questions

[@sobreaquarios]

I think they are not allowed! LOL

[@maribeltubo5585]

how to win a game?

[@manan9235]

Hello sir . I don't know how to do backhand topspin and if you will make video on backhand topspin so plz don't interfare my name in that video plz make on backhand topspin.

[@bortkiewicz985]

Usually I like your videos very much, but in this video your pictures don't prove at all what you say about contact point. At most of them you cannot see at all, where the top players hit the ball. However, I can imagine that you right mostly. But the other videos you posted are much better in my opinion.