asics mataspeed sky paris vs edge paris review video
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Trying to get a pair 👍🏼
@na15825 ай бұрын
The Pro 4s have changed my running life. Finally a super-shoe that work for my wide over-pronating feet - I’ve run 2 marathon PBs in the past 2 weeks! Stable, comfortable and fast without being aggressive, they work for me (3:35 marathoner) and will work for a lot of other people too
@fergusdenoon12555 ай бұрын
Picked up the speed4 for 130 earthers, done a speed intervals session, an easy run and just away out on a long run,teally like them, absolutely love the stretchy laces, and yes,they do make you consider the pro4, not quite enough to topple the consideration im giving the EdgeParis though.
@slowloris18475 ай бұрын
I've got the Endorphin Pro 4's having run in the Vaporfly 2's before. Harder under foot, way more stable and a little less responsive - but overall I think the Pro4 work better across a range of paces (particularly as I am targeting a sub4hr marathon - so not hitting super fast paces).
@kostassti5 ай бұрын
Great job. Thanks a lot! Your reviews are critical for us.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@legendamian5 ай бұрын
I ran about 50k in the alphafly 3 (proto), which included a 30k long run. Then i realised that this gonna be perfect for my marathon, it just made running fast feel a lot easier (down to my HR). I then picked up an endorphin pro 4 very cheap and used that for all my long run training sessions and it was phenomenal. I have 200k in those and the outsole is still almost perfect. Shoe still feels great too, just did my last long run of 35k in them yesterday. The HG addition really does elevate the shoe over the pro 3, and i used to love that one as well. I thought the HG addition would ruin a good thing but Saucony struck gold on this one.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Some good insight there. Thanks for posting 👍🏼👊
@davidpage81475 ай бұрын
Where can you find a pro4 cheap ?
@pseudoty5 ай бұрын
@@davidpage8147i got mine directly from Saucony USA 15% off with email signup. Still cost $187
@stevanmusulin94575 ай бұрын
Can someone throw the endorphin elite into the comparison mix. Seems to have been forgotten
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
The endorphin elite perhaps a bit more aggressive of a shoe. But very much its own thing.
@cheekster7775 ай бұрын
Good morning, Edd. Hope you’re having a wonderful weekend my friend.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Good morning!
@InsaneClock5 ай бұрын
Thank you, great video packed with information!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ianstyring96025 ай бұрын
Hi Edd. Can you compare the Alphafly 3 vs the Cielo X1 please. The half in Bristol is now sold out, so I'll have to opt for the 10k. Hope to see you there.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
I did see it’s sold out. Good to see that as some races have struggled for participants.
@marct96345 ай бұрын
Really enjoy your videos, Edd. I've been subscribed for a few years. Looking for any recommendations you or viewers have for a fast pace 5km / 10km shoe? (not too bothered if it's an older iteration and even better if discounted)... thanks all!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
The Sen 10 is a banger. Or a cheaper asics Metaspeed Sky plus?
@marct96345 ай бұрын
@EDDBUD thanks Edd!
@Stevenc19845 ай бұрын
Kofuzi running London is very exciting, I hope he doesn't go for the porridge in Sid's cafe!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
I heard he opted for bacteria on toast.
@jefreywith1f9245 ай бұрын
I think it's apparent that Saucony has made the Speed 3 and 4 more tuned for daily training than " Speed " workouts because they are looking for a replacement for the Endorphin Shift, which appears to be discontinued. Saucony now wants you to use the Endorphin Elite as your race shoe and the Endorphin Pro as your speed workout shoe.
@jerrydooley75515 ай бұрын
I love the Endorphin Shift. Just bought another pair before they are sold out for good
@stevegilbert10235 ай бұрын
My bank balance felt less threatened when you had the AF as a hype shoe. But will I ever trust the air pods enough? Good work as always Edd.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Still trust them as much as I trust a car tyre.
@davidh54295 ай бұрын
I would say the chance of popping a pod is as big as cracking your carbon plate in carbon plated shoes. It happens randomly and or after stepping on pebbles. Most people don't know they got a broken plate. But if you hear an annoying cracking or crunchy sound in them, chances are your plate burst. I've had it happen a few times then did an autopsy to see what's wrong. My vf3 plate got absolutely shattered 😂
@stevegilbert10235 ай бұрын
Had the tempos. Lost 50% of the pods after less than 200 miles. No cuts in the outsole. Just popped.
@davidh54295 ай бұрын
@@stevegilbert1023 Tempo's had factory airpod defects like crazy. Its not the airpods themselves though that were bad, the bottom design killed the airpods and or tore the outsole itself.
@jmjones10605 ай бұрын
Good content Ed; thoughtful, clear with good flow. I'm still on my Speed 2's and Pro 2's (from sales) and love them. Picked up Speed 3's - we'll see.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@dhgpan5 ай бұрын
Hello, Superblast for life 😃
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Great shoe. Looking forward to the v2
@kevinclark50865 ай бұрын
Ed nike alphafly 3 still got arch issues? Or does arch feel prominent? Im really doubting my adidas pro 3 after yesterday's run. Im going to try the saucony pro 4 today but options would be nice.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
First run I had issues but it’s settled down after some pounding!
@kevinclark50865 ай бұрын
@EDDBUD ive gone for the safer option and bought the saucony pro 4 this morning. It does feel very similar to the pro 3 but mid foot definitely wider and doesn't have a cut out like the adidas pro 3. Only a long run test will give me the answers though so fingers crossed.
@r_unner_G5 ай бұрын
Endorphin Pro 4 felt heavy when I picked it up at the London marathon running show. The AF3 is too heavy for me, so opted for VF3 for today. Want a Metaspeed Paris but thinking Edge not Sky.
@clemenshart5 ай бұрын
yes for me too, please compare to the Hyperion Max
@techfan8115 ай бұрын
I just ran my first half marathon in the Endorphin Pro 4 today, and I'm impressed! As a stability shoe wearer, transitioning to a super shoe was seamless with the Pro 4. It combines the comfort and rocker I'm used to from the Saucony Tempus with a more dynamic, race-ready feel. It's fun, fast, and still provides some stability (however I can definitely feel that it is no stability shoe). Highly recommend for anyone looking to try super shoes!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
The new layer of foam helps the stability for sure
@paulwatt32655 ай бұрын
Wore the ASICS Sky Paris today for a 10k….19seconds pb….fantastic shoes.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
It’s a banger. 10 mile run yesterday with 3 x 2 miles half marathon pace and they really hit the spot
@robertbien78955 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your Manchester marathon experience!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Can’t wait! Though it’s a long way off
@Manuel-9015 ай бұрын
Good morning. Thanks for what you do. I prefer the saucony endorphin speed 4. Like to EDDBUD. A nice weekend for everyone.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@flutey77225 ай бұрын
Its a shame what Saucony have seemingly done to the Speeds. From memory, the ES2 was the most popular speed training shoe by far, but it seems now, by intentionally differentiating it from the pro, they have allowed other brands to get a huge foot in the door of the speed trainer market.
@flutey77225 ай бұрын
@undeadly1103 funnily enough, I never actually owned the speed 2, I've only had the speed 3s. Just find it interesting how the market for that type of shoe has become way more competitive in recent years
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Removed a comment below which was negative and had little reason to be posted
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
I agree with you. It fit a really good niche
@frozen_jug_band5 ай бұрын
Great musical interlude choice today Edd, they really broke the mould when they made Lemmy! True story: I once saw him in a Las Vegas casino playing two one arm bandits simultaneously. Does it get more rock’n’roll than that? 😂
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Yes two at once is the sign of the true master
@brynthomas14985 ай бұрын
Speed 4 great for training but if you have carbon race shoe it just doesn't compare. Speed 4 is a fantastic running shoe though so comfy and gives enough to do Speed training.
@bobbywrenn95105 ай бұрын
Brilliant as always!!! Thanks Edd!!!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@theghostofpcs23915 ай бұрын
When you were talking about the Speed 4, it felt similar to how I feel about the Speed 3 (vs the Speed 2 and Pro 3). On first step-in, it felt like there was a block of wood underneath the heel, and it made me wonder if that's what a stability shoe would feel like. There was a disconnect in feeling between the front and back of the shoe. I'm a forefoot striker, so the heel doesn't bother me on the run, but I've never had a running shoe feel so hard in the heel before.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s perhaps down to the foam like insole. Might switch it plus the laces and update you all
@RunTommy1235 ай бұрын
I wish Saucony would come out with a Sinister/Pro Hybrid. Like New Balance is doing with the Pacer V2
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Yeah a sen / pacer model would be good
@brokenfreddy12625 ай бұрын
They have changed the pro4 enough that I can use it..finally got more forefoot room.. changing the insole to the Saucony pro3 insoles took some of the HG foam harshness out of the forefoot cushioning..the pro series has never had enough forefoot cushioning for me, but this one I can use it for training runs..the upper is very comfortable and easy to get on quickly..really don't like having to fight a shoe to get it on..😅
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
About shoe fit. Don’t get the alpha. Is a shoehorn model!
@andyb8525 ай бұрын
ASICS metaspeed Sky Paris is an incredible shoe. Thanks Ed
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
The best I have raced in for sure
@RoshanFernandez-md5cf5 ай бұрын
I’m loving the Sky Paris on some runs but when I get the Alphaflys, the truth will be revealed 🙌🏽. Great video as always, thank you 🙏🏾 💯💫
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
The Asics is incredible. I’m sure it’s down to the low weight
@scottsertich5645 ай бұрын
Cool reviews - I'm picking up the Metaspeed Paris.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Amazing shoe. One of the best I have tried
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron21835 ай бұрын
I just used the Endo Pro4 in Boston but can’t judge if it helped because it was one of the warmest Bostons in history and there was a lot of carnage--77 runners hospitalized, 3000 seeking help in medical tents and that doesn’t included DNF’s. I did have an issue with a toe blister which is a first for me. I think I might have done better 1/2 size up (as I did with v3 though it didn’t seem necessary with this iteration) but hearing you mention the stretchy laces causing lockdown issues, that may have been the culprit, or a combination of those factors on my R foot, which is my longer foot. I may just use them now for long runs and some short races. I didn’t notice any lockdown problems on a 13 mile test run but maybe I should’ve put more pre-race miles on them.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Drastically different temps to 2023. The more rigid laces have helped me no end on many shoes
@00abbo5 ай бұрын
Great video and entertaining as usual Edd. 🏃💪👍
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jackjill20105 ай бұрын
Podium? Or too slow?
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
🥇👊
@jackjill20105 ай бұрын
@@EDDBUD I thought this day would never come. Time to shower myself in some champagne. Yay! That's a PB for me.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
@@jackjill2010 enjoy!
@Formerly-known-as-Steve5 ай бұрын
Asleep
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
🥈
@gustavovasquez18595 ай бұрын
To the super shoes already on the review would be great to add the New Balance Elite v4
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Perhaps I shall pick one up soon
@letitbleep26835 ай бұрын
Spoiled for choice for race shoes this year. Hope to pick up some sale bargains later in a few months.
@joaofernandes29425 ай бұрын
Hiii Edd 💪 Can you make a comparison video between the Speed 4, the Rebel v4 and the Mach 6? I'm finding it hard to decide... Thanks in advance 👌
@undeadly11035 ай бұрын
ALL 😉
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
I don’t have the Mach 6 sadly
@kevingregor62355 ай бұрын
Great video!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@MedicineRunner5 ай бұрын
Nike air monarch vs. Nike AF 3
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
🤣
@pseudoty5 ай бұрын
I swapped out the laces on my Pro4 with a set from an old pair of VF2 and besides that no issues. I did a half M in them yesterday cushion, comfort, stability and felt like I could easily have kept going on. Not as light and fast as the Edge Paris but more protective of my legs. Don’t know if I will pickup the AF3
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Ideal for the full snickers. Great insight 👍🏼👊
@Fozzee.19705 ай бұрын
Why not do the half in the Edge Paris?
@pseudoty5 ай бұрын
@@Fozzee.1970 as a heel striker they are not stable enough for me you really have to have perfect form and top speed to run in them effectively
@Fozzee.19705 ай бұрын
@@pseudoty I have only done a 5k in them so far. I have the same worries taking them to Half Marathon. I think I could take it to 10k. I'm a big guy and I'm thinking about wearing my new Superblast for the half. I tried the EP4 and didn't like the fit.
@0427665 ай бұрын
Just did my fastest training 1/2 marathon in the sky- Hopefully turns into a PB for Brooklyn 1/2. BTW, Passed a guy today who got a hold of the AF3 that color your are holding up and was asking myself "why" and how did he get that over here? - looked like he was a 10 minute pace but to each their own - if it helps him good for him. I do like the sky going up hills quite well though - light and legs just tick over. Btw, I am 6'1" and 12.85 stone.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Hills were fast in my HM pb race. The Paris is a cracking shoe
@PaulBoyce-bh7ul5 ай бұрын
All these shoes are very good in their own right...but too pricey for me. Have to wait until they are on sale...don't need the newest and latest right now. :) For a serious runner...with some buckaroos...I can see the draw
@sergioaparicio9575 ай бұрын
Thank you for your review, excelente work!! Question, What insole do you recommend for the Speed 4? Thanks!
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Will try a few and see what fits best
@sergioaparicio9575 ай бұрын
@@EDDBUD thank you, I will be waiting for your recomendation!
@robinc.98455 ай бұрын
I did the Vienna City Marathon yesterday and i shit you not… i could hear Alphafly 3s coming… they are so freaking loud 😂 alongside, on the Marathon Fair at the Adidas exhibition stand, they told me there will be coming an Adios Pro 4 soon… lets see
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
This and the tempo next%. Loudest out there
@thomastemistokle12795 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for the Adios Pro 4 - i think it could be simelar to the Edge Paris
@kingofdeath56005 ай бұрын
Do you ever run in your saucony elites?
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Yes they still get a go here and there. Will race in them at some point. Many opportunities coming up
@not_oscar85885 ай бұрын
🥉
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
🥉
@yalokim52645 ай бұрын
I... dislike Saucony for downgrading the Speed. Somehow the price didn't follow!!! This should still be a race day shoe for non-elite mid-pack runners 🏃♂️ who don't dream of breaking the 2... No, not even close 3h barrier. Shame on you, Saucony. NOT going Pro anytime soon. Sticking with SPEED v1. When "speed dies" I'll "go elsewhere" 😂 Pun intended 😂
@angelvargasvlogs4 ай бұрын
nice videos man! Hi from Costa Rica!!!!
@EDDBUD4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍🏼👊
@angelvargasvlogs4 ай бұрын
@@EDDBUD thanks for doing the videos man!!!!
@jonathansale71387 күн бұрын
Do you know which ones have the widest arch? I always find the alphafly 1 and vaporfly and magic sky Paris all have a very narrow arch
@EDDBUD7 күн бұрын
Almost all these have a prominent arch. Maybe the insole hides it on the af3.
@edwardcreighton26385 ай бұрын
Love MotorEdd! Lemmy well known for liking his speed! Meta or Endorphin for Lemmy? Danke schön.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Yes he was into some quite serious energy gels I believe. 🤣
@ebutuoyYT5 ай бұрын
If I could buy a new pair of Alphafly V1s for under £150, is paying an additional £90 for the Alphafly V3 worth it, as money is definitely an object! Target is a Marathon, I am a heavier runner, around 200lbs, I own a pair of Vaporfly V1s, and enjoy them for up to HM, but I feel I need more cushion for a full ticket marathon.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
They are close. Bit lighter. Maybe less effective as there’s less foam in the forefoot
@keith39995 ай бұрын
I loved the first version of the sky but the Sky plus felt like my foot was hanging off the inside of the shoe. Has put me off buying the new version.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
It’s a bit different in style. More width here and some more conforming upper material
@lostsoulparty5 ай бұрын
Voluminous toes :) I'm sold
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
It’s make or break for some. I like some width but not the height on the toebox
@PabloPerez-nd7se5 ай бұрын
Still don’t understand the Boston 12. The rods mangle my feet and leave them hurting everytime. The Adizero line just don’t suit my feet at all.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
They seem to work for me. Like the upper too
@PabloPerez-nd7se5 ай бұрын
Yeah they work for many. The Pro 2s were also very uncomfortable for me. Might put a few more miles in and see if they come to me but it’s fine - not every shoe works. Loving the Speed 4s, horses for courses eh. Keep up the good work.
@sts2655 ай бұрын
Any thoughts about the insole of the ep4 being narrow? I know it’s weird, but I felt like I was stepping on the edge of the medial side of the insole heel on the ep4…which I’ve never felt on other shoes before. Scaring me off the shoe for a bit. Might got Cielo x1 instead
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
In most race shoes they cut off the edges of the insole to make it that bit more sleek
@jefreywith1f9245 ай бұрын
Lemmy: " I've never done a day's exercise in my life." 😍
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
🤣
@Crose465 ай бұрын
Hey Edd, I’m looking at the Endorphin pro 4 vs. 3. Would you say 3 is faster for shorter distances (10k)? I know they are both great
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
Would say they are close to be honest. The upper fit better on the pro4
@MrTriath13375 ай бұрын
Which of these would likely be the best for hitting a fast 5k off a triathlon?
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
The ASICS perhaps? They are all more tuned for longer distance in fairness
@perjrgenkristiansen88123 ай бұрын
Sweet!
@marun12905 ай бұрын
Hello! ASICS METASPEED SKY PARIS It is true to size? Or you need half that number? I have the version Asics METASPEED SKY+ size 12US.
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
True to size for me
@markoljustina5 ай бұрын
Try Pro 4 and Elite in London expo over weekend and Elite feels much faster Buy the way i do PB 3:17:26
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
I think it’s down to if you like it more responsive and less squashy.
@markoljustina5 ай бұрын
@@EDDBUDi buy Sky yesterday
@lifephorce5 ай бұрын
Late again 😊
@RainerSchmitt-pv4df5 ай бұрын
Let's fight the 🤖! 👊🏼
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
It’s like fight the power only with more robots.
@scott-kx1jp5 ай бұрын
Scrap the 4s the saucony pro 3s are better all round shoes
@infernaltim5 ай бұрын
Lemmy is God. 🤘
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
🤘🎸
@SirThomas12125 ай бұрын
At least EP 4 doesn't comes with rubber ducks! kzbin.info-eP-fHT7dVU?si=jhtg5czMkUiSHPey
@pabloescobar-vl9zs5 ай бұрын
What is the best shoe for the gym?
@EDDBUD5 ай бұрын
For the Gym a Pegasus or the Puma velocity nitro 3 is a good bet.
@pabloescobar-vl9zs5 ай бұрын
@@EDDBUD I also forgot to ask you if the shoes you mentioned are good for flat feet ?, because I have flat feet.