[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S12 Ro.16 Group B (Tastosis)

[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S12 Ro.16 Group B (Tastosis)
Ro.16 Group B: herO, nOOB, free, RoyaL

[@NCAAhockeyplayer]

seeing the 3 hour 26 mins just fired me right up. Sleepin on the couch tonight baby!!

[@jeremyhorvath2052]

have a Good Night on the couch

[@iandecisive]

Heck yeah!

[@reismw]

I am at 3:18 and so anxious for 3:26 now that I see your comment

[@theSato]

@@reismw what do you mean.. 3h26m has nothing to do with 3m26s

[@reismw]

@@theSato lool I meant 3 HOURS on both of them, and realized his timing is just the end

[@marsmartian]

The audio sync gods have blessed us.

[@ericd545]

Awww shit I’m excited

[@MMarcuzzo]

Amen

[@imKhokie]

the sync issues were brutal on the science vessels dying to the scourge

[@chriswu1827]

is the audio sync fixed for group B?

[@Eliteownage]

NASL sound guy moment

[@HasekuraIsuna]

Fun facts, match-up and map statistics for this season below! *SPOILERS!* (Updated after today's games!) *[Fun Facts]* - Spawning on top of the map is still much worse than spawning at the bottom, winrates: 4/5 o'clock 65% > 7/8 o'clock 60% > 1 o'clock 42% > 11/12 o'clock 22% - Player expanding first wins 58.82% of the time (64.71% Zerg adjusted); if we look per match-up in PvT over 19 games first expander wins 73.68%, but in TvZ it's 36.36%! - Only three games have been played on Good Night, two of them were today! Lemon is now the least played map with only two games! - Terran continous to dominate Polypoid scoring another win against Protoss for a 4-1 score! Protoss is also 0-2 against Zerg on the map! With how Ro16 starts on Polypoid does this spell disaster for the remaining Protoss? - Even with 9 games under its belt, Revolver keeps producing short games: average time is less than 9 minutes! - Eclipse which for the longest time sported 50-50 balance for the spawns, have shifted drastically in favour for 7 o'clock: 11-5 (68.8% winrate) *[Match-Ups]* PvT (20 games) 10-10 Average Time: 17:19 TvZ (13 games) 6-7 Average Time: 12:13 ZvP (13 games) 7-6 Average Time: 12:34 ZvZ (5 games) Average Time: 09:06 PvP (3 games) Average Time: 12:28 TvT (1 game) *[Maps]* _Eclipse_ (16 games) - TvZ 1-1, ZvP 2-4, PvT 3-3 - TvT 1, ZvZ 1 - Average Time: 17:35 _Ascension_ (11 games) - TvZ 0-2, ZvP 1-1, PvT 4-2 - ZvZ 1 - Average Time: 12:53 _Polypoid_ (9 games) - TvZ 1-1, ZvP 2-0, PvT 1-4 - Average Time: 16:46 _Revolver_ (9 games) - TvZ 2-1, PvT 1-1 - ZvZ 2, PvP 2 - Average Time: 08:58 _Largo_ (5 games) - TvZ 1-0, ZvP 1-0, PvT 1-0 - ZvZ 1, PvP 1 - Average Time: 15:46 _Good Night_ (3 game) - TvZ 1-1, ZvP 1-0 - Average Time: 11:43 _Lemon_ (2 games) - TvZ 0-1, ZvP 1-0 - Average Time: 08:53

[@sergeyk9060]

Hoku

[@nerevarinenwah3690]

Do you keep tally of all of this by yourself? Thank you very much in any case, dude/ss

[@HasekuraIsuna]

@@nerevarinenwah3690 Yes, I do! I'm posting the updated results on every video, and I occasionally post spreadsheets and graphics on Twitter under the hashtag #ASLstats!

[@nerevarinenwah3690]

@@HasekuraIsuna Much thanks. Nice job. 10/10

[@half-life3133]

TvZ delivers once again. Crazy series between herO and Royal.

[@myorigaccisbroken]

I had a really shitty week and needless to say: I watched Group A Saturday evening.... just to wake up on this Sunday to see group B is uploaded WAT? awesome

[@AlexanderEddy]

Tastosis is a pretty cool guy. He casts aleins and doesnt afraid of anything.

[@PeterParker-yg6fc]

isn't afraid*

[@jekku9]

@@PeterParker-yg6fc it's a meme kek

[@tedbusiek8888]

Match 1: 19:09 Match 2: 40:27 Match 3: 1:11:31 Match 4: 1:33:07 Match 5: 1:42:26 Match 6: 2:16:14 Match 7: 2:39:48 Match 8: 2:58:11 Match 9: 3:08:08

[@maloiik]

wow tastosis feel so much closer and personal on these casts compared with the sc2 gsl for some reason, i like it. also these guys are the best sc2 commentators in the world by a mile

[@7thquark309]

3:16:35 I love the Protoss building warping imitation by Tasteless :D

[@paulpreuss4528]

Nobody: Tasteless: What is UP Everybody

[@goodguycwyzz4768]

What a sick TvZ game 3 between Royal and Hero

[@abstractdaddy1384]

Yeah seriously. And how about that TvZ from group A with soma and jyj?

[@toby885]

wow Royal did a wonderful comeback game 3 was one of the best T vs Z that I have seen in this season

[@inguh7041]

Best weekend ever!!! Double Ro.16 with Tastosis, with a fat block of chocolate and milk. (along with some chores to do) What more could I want?

[@mmjahink]

A significant other?

[@wesgrubbs8437]

@R Murphy Don't assume. He's probably more of a Man Eater.

[@marcoz6023]

@@mmjahink lmao overrated

[@inguh7041]

@@wesgrubbs8437 You seem to have some issues. Are you jealous I had a great weekend? :)

[@wesgrubbs8437]

@@inguh7041 Absolutely not. I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. I was simply letting the other guy know that you most likely eat Pipe, therefore p*ssy wouldn't be one of your interests.

[@EebstertheGreat]

The farewell is usually written "good night," but the noun is "goodnight." For instance, as a group of people leave a party, they might say their goodnights to each other. There are a lot of ways to do that, including by saying "See you later," or "Good night." For some reason, this doesn't apply to the greeting "good day," which is always two words, or the farewell "goodbye," which is always one word (though formerly spelled good-bye). But it sort of applies to the term "farewell," which is normally one word but can be two words when given their literal meaning, if for instance you say "I hope the kids fare well on their trip."

[@stkfr]

42:00 " Terran has basically 2 otions : aggressive 2 facts into expand drop or fast push or a more passive defensive play into securing a third or even a fourth , what do you think Artosis ?" "Well i play defensive on 2 bases, i don't get what you mean by a third or a fourth"

[@bookwormmel0o]

incredible games and incredible cast as usual. Loved it.

[@Kuzmorgo]

OMG, the music noob put on (18:10) is amazing lol! Does anyone know the english title of that song?

[@blablabla90909]

the song name is right on the bottom of the panel there, its the 'BGM'

[@Kuzmorgo]

@@blablabla90909 which is exactly why I specified "the english name"

[@theSato]

@@Kuzmorgo [Simply K-Pop] LEENALCHI (이날치) - Tiger is Coming (범 내려온다)

[@Kuzmorgo]

@@theSato Awesome! Thanks!

[@VatchGaming]

Damn this sunday is perfect

[@onethreeify]

I told myself that I would stretch out the video for a few days by only watching the first two games today. Ended up watching the winners match as well

[@keiclone]

You guys weren't kidding this really was up really soon!

[@durag6196]

StarcastTV casted it a week ago...

[@stak8479]

I lost patience and watched the nyoken/scan cast

[@durag6196]

@@stak8479 Cool man good on you

[@ThienNguyen-wh1fz]

damn how did Royal win that third game.. thought hero got it for sure..

[@HasekuraIsuna]

I don't know, but wasn't it like Tastosis said: herO got kind of sloppy and lost Ultras and Lings all over the map to just kill some Marines; the Vessels went largely uncontested and kept getting value through Irradiates; and the BC that he dealt with, he dealt with Scourge, after the second time he did that he was starved for gas for the rest of the game.

[@Goenitz33]

herO threw too much stuff away for free. You can’t keep trying to fight all over the place like this when you are behind.

[@sinekonata]

If you throw the ocean at the sun, the sun wins. - Artosis

[@welp...]

Some big battlecruiser moves by RoyaL, very impressive!

[@scuniverseyoutuber4404]

I don't think it would ever happen, because 1v1 is probably chaotic/hectic enough to commentate on, but I would really like to see max plays supported team v team and/or max players supported free for all have commentary. Maybe the commentary could be on videos submitted and that have been pre-watched before the commentary, so they'll be easier to pick apart.

[@Minerva013]

And now I can't unsee the reverse ramp lol

[@xthebumpx]

I was just about ready to go to bed too. Not any more!

[@TheK3vin]

"Looks like one of our players got up to take a break... or became invisible... so looks like we're gonna be chatting a little bit longer" LMAO

[@snwdn]

Opposite of a greeting is a farewell

[@iloveTSA]

BW 4 EVER~~~~~~~~

[@Tolotoss]

hey, just an idea for the later rounds: Would it be possible to add a "spoiler zone" at the end of the videos where you just prolong the video by like 30 min, so you can't see e.g. in a round of 7 who's gonna win? If one player is e.g. up 3:0 and the video ends in 10 min. you know exactly who's gonna win, but if the video would go on another 30 min., you couldn't say by just looking at the time?

[@systemicchaos3921]

excellent idea!

[@cyborg98]

17:09 That's the song from The Genius! Best TV show on Earth that ever has been or ever will be!

[@themedip]

I love how they constantly complain about protoss being OP, yet there are always so few progressing. Makes sense... Love you guys though!!! Thanks for the content!

[@hkl2007]

Protoss isn't OP, it's just unskilled

[@tankbuggeru]

Yeah, I took a look at the ASL stats, and it's usually Zerg, and sometimes Terran that win. Unless I missed something, there hasn't been a toss winner since s5, which was in February 2018. I guess that's how many people feel it should be. Now that toss are doing fairly well in SC2 GSL, people are losing their shit, yelling for all kinds of nerfs.

[@hkl2007]

@@tankbuggeru Yep, zerg is the hardest race so the best of the best do well with them. Crazy

[@tankbuggeru]

@@hkl2007 That would be crazy indeed, unless you mean the most powerful race in the right hands

[@hkl2007]

@@tankbuggeru Yes, perfectly executed zerg is the strongest race. Fyi, first few years of broodwar, most people didn't think Zerg was even viable and ZvT was a joke matchup before the development of modern mutalisk micro.

[@janoycresva919]

KEEP all videos spoiler free like this season ! GOOD Work Tastosis !!

[@psychomap]

"My priorities are correct, I'm looking at the Terran" -Artosis I really want to play the silhouette guessing game, maybe as a webapp or something. I'm getting a surprising amount of them right. Not the maps of course because I don't actually play BW, but I'm good at recognising the units. And what the hell is up with "stay spoiler free" and then releasing another group right before the GSL finals? Now I have to watch that before GSL starts.

[@darkjedi4z]

Thank you for the English casting! Is Lee Hyun Kyung a starcraft pro as well? I imagine some of the interview questions are pre-scripted on the cards but she has some good follow-up questions that you need to have knowledgeable strategy to know to ask. Just curious if those are pre-scripted as well or she asks them on the spot?

[@inguh7041]

Good question. Not sure, but I know she does have personal experience with gaming

[@eMbry00s]

pretty sure she knows her shit, sometimes she has really good follow-up questions based on the players' answers, and they don't have time in the live broadcast to script the whole interview etc

[@darkjedi4z]

@@eMbry00s cool, I figured as much. I know she's been doing it for the past few years now and she really knows a lot about the various strategies, so I was curious if she was a pro gamer like the korean casters IntotheRain or american casters tasteosis.

[@spinvn]

@@darkjedi4z she's not a pro gamer, but she studies the games she hosts, BW and PUBG I believe. There's a long interview of her done by Snow with English subtitles on his channel.

[@darkjedi4z]

@@spinvn nice, thanks!

[@ramiisrami000]

Tasteless held that sneeze at the start of the stream like a boss

[@KoiKoy56]

The "guess the unit" game had to be staged.... I haven't played SCBW in like, 15 years, but I knew them all easily. Like... there isn't anything else those units look like........

[@sergeyk9060]

Did you like that unit that could teleport other units and freeze enemy units? It was also making allied units invisible. Oh, and it flies xD

[@StriKe_jk]

Thats actually a really inportant factor for old games. Because screens were small and units were a mush of pixels all units had to look distinctively different on a glance. This initial design goal then became the gold standard for RTS because it obviously helps players and viewers a lot to immediately being able to identify units

[@KoiKoy56]

@@StriKe_jk yet the progamers who played today had no clue what they were lol.

[@KoiKoy56]

@@sergeyk9060 it's called an arbiter. Yeah pretty good unit. I'm referring to a game they played off stage to fill commercial time. They had to guess what unit it was based on the silhouette. I'm guessing you skipped it.

[@theSato]

I fully agree.. I knew every single one of them. The only hard questions were the ones where they showed a tiny part of a map and asked people to guess them. That skeleton doodad is on many badlands maps over the years.. lol

[@alexfriedman2047]

This map "Goodnight" Is a nightmare against Zerg for Terran and Protoss. Those side basses are basically unbreakable. I had like 5 bases as toss and just couldn't break the side bases, even with storm, arb, reaver, and then died to 100000 hydras and ling lurker.

[@kabuteshiitake7071]

Thank heavens for Tastosis and Broodwar and the cultural and societal forces in South Korea that turned them into Starcraft gods

[@TheBlvision]

Terran late game is too op!

[@udun84]

Royal !!!! ❤

[@StriKe_jk]

Remember folks, fire beats water!

[@AlojzyZyrokompas]

Hyped!

[@scuniverseyoutuber4404]

@ about 1:07:30 I was 3 for 1 on the unit silhouettes, I thought the firebat was a hydralisk. I didn't know any of the answers to the maps.

[@user-zm4th9xr3b]

Free vs noob when he went for the reavers in game 1 that cost him the game there initially wasn't a speed shuttle, it spawned/arrived at about the exact second noob got to the reavers so the call wasn't as bad as tastosis were describing it imo

[@furlisht]

So happy this exists!

[@imma5269]

I comment on every video to show support & help the stats but rarely have much to say. So… LETSSS GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@XtReMz98]

The Royal/Her0 serie was interesting to watch. Not a big fan of the medic on ramp with flying factory overhead move. Felt a bit cheap, but Her0 did not pull from that attack, so I guess at the end that loss was on him. A lot of other things went wrong in that game for Her0, Royal deserved that win as he played well, kept his vessels alive and capitalize on any wasteful moves from his opponent.

[@bg4245]

It's worth mentioning that a common zerg tactic is stacking lurkers with overlords over them so the Terran can't click on them for irradiate. These tactics go both ways.

[@masterkang1024]

Is the in-game speed sped up? the units in game 1 are moving really really fast

[@Aaezil]

drink everytime artosis says "lookatthat" . Yeah im a bit sloshed

[@IYPITWL]

1:15:23 I contest there are 4 times: mutas is first. Then the other 3 Tastless mentions.

[@Odinoian]

59:35 It's so painful to see all these terran units fighting and pushing for who's to go up the ramp first... 😩

[@karlhans6678]

When is Flash gonna return? The return of the king.

[@user-zk4ch9kj8e]

1:02:21 nice work. Mega gg. Royal face perfect!!!))

[@mareksicinski3726]

17:22 Bourne music

[@reismw]

"If you have enough fire it beats water"

[@Klerafukan]

Great stuff

[@Pav298]

Wow free was off today. The series with noob was back and forth unforced errors.

[@travissmith9934]

What happened to Larva?

[@nuoch2o342]

Geez F had nothing for H. That was a complete stomping.

[@Cernunn0s90]

Go play Metal Gear Solid Artosis! The other greatest game of all time next to Brood War!

[@robertparker1707]

Royal is a good damn beast

[@moletrap]

If you throw the ocean at the sun, the sun wins.

[@maome666]

i love tastosis!!

[@Desoliraa]

Interviewer: How do you feel going into the round of 8? "Now that I've advanced by the losers it means I'll be paired against winners, which are more likely to be much more difficult." Mini; Am I a joke to you?

[@gpeterson2900]

Fire puts out water.

[@hando87]

Strap yourselves in boys!

[@Zraknul]

Looks like there's a lesson in PvZ in there.

[@DaR3b3L]

“Fire🔥 puts out water💧” 😂☠️

[@jonathan1613]

Iamtasteless should switch his name to IAteEverythingBecauseImTasteless

[@snoopyt7]

good night is two words Tasteless

[@siIverspawn]

So group C basically contains - the best zerg player - the best terran player - the best protoss player - stork too bad flash isn't here, then it would have been the 4 best players from all four races.

[@eMbry00s]

and stork was the 2nd best protoss back in the day (behind Bisu)

[@tvadan2586]

3:17:00 HILARIOUS TASTELESS JOKE IDK why I laughed so fuckin hard at that

[@Sabu113]

Good night

[@user-zk4ch9kj8e]

herō is a monster

[@citypopshrimp8950]

Tastosis may I suggest something, the observer does a lot of things that hint at what's important such as in game 1 they highlight the lack of overlord when zerg is at 9/9, which almost always means 9pool (pretty aggressive), but I noticed you never mention it in the cast. Paying more attention to the observer's cue might help build a better narrative

[@worldmadjoshglad4527]

hero clowned on free pretty hard

[@Maelthorn1337]

1:33:33... I wanna know the joke. :c

[@darkjedi4z]

Curious. He is streaming on twitch now, maybe we can find out, haha

[@Imi199]

Revolver Ocelot Revolver Ocelot

[@CoolEtCetera]

Clutch Bathroom Break ;)

[@ArrakisMusicOfficial]

The cast starts at 13:05

[@theSato]

sure but the pregame interviews and such are important! We paid for them to be translated for a reason, we ain't skippin it :D

[@PinkPajamas464]

2:16:00 - Missed an opportunity to joke about staying in [B]ed.

[@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709]

F YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! MY BODY IS READY!

[@max_955]

1:49:52 ghosts mutalisks glitching

[@hallo-mt5tx]

free vs noob reaver micro was such a clownshow compared to someone like snow haha

[@NeverMyRealName]

First sc1 cast ive seen a terran actually win

[@issacb6124]

notice when RoyaL scouts free first Artosis doesn't make a big deal out of it.

[@dtluna1312]

Is there a way to view this commentary live?

[@tdring10681]

tastosis can't do the comentary live because they aren't on africa but I think nyoken and scan do live cats on afreeca

[@inguh7041]

@@tdring10681 how come Tastosis can't, but they can?

[@tdring10681]

@@inguh7041 they cast on afreeca but tastosis cast on KZbin

[@user-zk4ch9kj8e]

noob is very noob after 1st game with Free))

[@yaroslavzhdanov1645]

Royal vs free wasnt played good on both sides, Terran overvhelmed toss

[@tryn3]

Nice one 😂 pvp being a slugfest

[@bencheevers6693]

So far this round of 16 has reinforced my idea of matchup tier, no TvTs but I think it's safe to say those are the best of the mirror matches S TvZ A PvZ(Mini Games) B PvZ TvP C TvT D PvP E ZvZ F FFA

[@kingdweeb5065]

facts. Might need an SS tier for TvZ when a brainy terran like nada is playing, though.

[@duhnickduh2321]

TvT at C? Nah lol

[@Genemesis]

TvT above PvP? TvT is basically ZvZ with more sitting and just maxing. Same units same shit. PvP has plenty of build orders from the get go. Can be reavers can be DTs can be carriers can be arbiters. ZvZ is just muta ling. TvT is just vulture tank goliath then BC.

[@nickwatson7164]

@@duhnickduh2321 TVT is my favorite matchup. I enjoy the positioning

[@bencheevers6693]

@@Genemesis TvT is much more exciting than ZvZ, PvP follows it one rung down, the problem with PvP is the stagnation, it's 5 minutes and then reveal your build, you could win or lose right there, if that doesn't happen it's 80% of the time a dragoon reaver battle that has all the enjoyment of ZvZ fights, lings vs lings or muta vs mutas, you say there are different builds like that matters, all the fights are the exact same. ZvZ is kind of awful to watch, you get the odd match that is exciting but a best of 7 is awful and it's the same thing with PvP. TvT is actually fantastic, you say there are the same units in the same progression, that's absolutely not the case unless you were to specify the vast majority of the units. There are so many different ways TvT can go, there are so many aspects of it, it absolutely dwarfs the other two mirror matches which is why it's ranked higher, every stage of the game has decisive decisions and can end in any phase, unlike PvP. I'm really tired and not explaining myself well, my minds racing with all the specific reasons that TvT is objectively and overwhelming better than PvP but I just can't find the right words or even where to start, there's just so much complexity in TvT to describe. It's strictly better than PvP in every way.

[@jacksputrid]

Tastosis sounds like a mouth disease

[@lennartmook9182]

please give me one cast where tasteless is not allowed to explain the most basic things for the 1 millions time, i would love that

[@sliceyk3970]

Are we ever going to see up that skirt? She's way too aware. >

[@LancelotOnCrack]

Tasteless, tell Artosis to stop talking when he's about to burp or hick-up.

[@cheesypoofz157]

lol talking through their masks. what clowns.

[@Lopyswine]

P v P is so boring to watch.

[@bencheevers6693]

Seriously why do you not cut out the commercials? Nobody watching this speaks Korean or even if they do the ads serve no purpose for he 99% western audience that watches this, it's literally wasted time that everybody fast forwards, make the cast better and remove the ads

[@Sheldezare]

Because they most likely are obliged by contracts to keep them in dude.

[@tdring10681]

im willing to bet that Afreeca requires them to be kept in for whatever reason

[@bencheevers6693]

@@Sheldezare I get that but it doesn't make any sense, none of the audience understands the commercial, the products aren't available here and for the vast majority of the cases the brands aren't serving western markets, everybody just skips through them anyways. It makes no sense and makes the cast actively worse and that's an assumption, you could but right but I think it's equally likely that because the feed isn't edited at all they could remove them but they just don't. Same problem with audio sync, a touch of editing would improve the casts greatly.

[@Sheldezare]

@@bencheevers6693 Contracts don't work on making sense. Also it doesn't take anything away from the cast. You can exert your ability to easily skip.

[@patrikheinrich95]

@@bencheevers6693 You don't have a gaymin monitah? I have antipathy towards anything in commercials, but honestly I favor Jin Air and I really want some Hot 6. While western market is rather niche, it still benefits Afreefa's negotiating power as they can brag about international exposition when selling ad space. It does makes sense.

[@djh9816]

fourth