Why I DISLIKE The Suzuki GSX-S1000GX!

[@LambChopRides]

I'm really surprised I LOVE mine, tyres changed and it's fantastic!

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@ashwinraggs4226 Ooh handbags at dawn! 😂

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@LambChopRides Yep not a fan mate. I guess that's the benefit of long termers.

[@magaudion]

But the bike should come with proper rubber as standard .

[@Englishbikerdan]

Uh huh.

[@SuperchargedLlama]

What did you put on it @lambchoprides?

[@bikegeist]

What a world when we feel odd commending people for giving honest reviews that aren't 95% glowing. And a title and thumbnail that accurately reflect the content of the video! Everyone can't like everything and you can't review a bike on imaginary tyres, rear sprocket and seat. Respect to you.

[@bakedbean5796]

just put Road 6’s on my GX, made a lot of difference. for preload settings on front fork it has to be done manually, fully release tension(to the left) then close 3 turns. there are 15 turns in total. Change User mode settings Manual Adj +4 Auto Adj +3. put TC on 5 all worked for me . but the speed wobbles i used to get was very unsettling

[@Englishbikerdan]

As I say in the video, new tyres would probably make a big difference. But that's not what the bike came with and I can only review the bike as it is presented to me. Plus I hope Suzuki realise cheaping out on tyres is not a good strategy!

[@leenangle4454]

I've had the chance of testing the GX its standard fitment, as well as on a different set of Dunlops. On the OE tyres, the bike is reluctant to turn in and takes quite some effort to steer. You have to ride around the tyres to make the bike work, and the front and rear profiles feel don't feel like they match. There's enough dry grip to grind the pegs, but generally it's true that the standard tyres don't do the bike justice. Later I was able to try a GX fitted with Sportsmart mk3's. Saying these transform the bike is an understatement. On the mk3's turn-in and direction changes are easy and feel natural, without any fall-down or nervosity. Changing direction doesn't require any effort and you can perfectly steer the bike on the throttle and brakes, without upsetting how the bike feels or behaves when changing steering input, throttle position of varying your braking effort. It's as if Suzuki originally designed around these, but then fitted the bike with all thinkable extras and found out that fully-loaded it could start weaving at top speed in a worst-case scenario, and had tyres (the OE Roadsport 2's) made that did the job of making the thing dead-stable at full whack in a straight, forgetting all other criteria. On the Sportsmart mk3's the GX turns into the weapon it was meant to be. Amazing and it completely changed how I feel about the GX. I even consider it now as a substitute for my well set-up Tracer. It's easy to just slag a tyre brand based on the experience with a standard fitment, but I got curious and asked around why there are such differences between OE and replacement tyres. Luck has it I know a few people in the industry and ended up with a few interesting insights. As opposed to the other well-known tyre brands, the rights to the Dunlop brand are owned by different companies in different geographies. Sumitomo Rubber from Japan owns the Dunlop brand in most of the world, whereas Goodyear owns the brand rights for Europe. Other than the brand name European and Asian-source Dunlops have nothing in common. There are a number of historical events behind how that situation came to be, but European Dunlop motorcycle tyres are all developed and built by Goodyear in France, and are targeted at the very demanding European replacement market, so mostly radial performance road and race tyres. Because of how the motorcycle market in their territories has developed and because of the geographical restrictions I mentioned, Sumitomo relies a lot on the Japanese brand OE business, which implies a great deal of compromise when it comes to the performance package of original equipment tyres supplied to Japanese motorcycle brands. Sumitomo is perfectly capable of producing good tyres, but cannot apply that tech to most of their OE products because of cost reasons, and because of the Japanese OEM's product requirements. Apparently compounds and constructions have nothing in common in most instances. The OE tyres are mainly built for high-speed stability (due to the specific demands for the German market it seems), cost, and often weight. Handling and outright performance are usually low on the Japanese manufacturers' list of requirements. Interestingly, it turns out that the Sumitomo-Dunlop replacement tyres that are distributed in Europe by Goodyear are very different from and far superior to their OE equivalents, even when they share the same name and pattern. Sumitomo and Goodyear are competing companies, but not when it comes to Dunlop. The territories where each company sells the brand is clearly defined. They work together in certain segments because of this Dunlop brand situation, and because not all kinds of tyres are built in each geography. For example Goodyear doesn't produce any MX or enduro tyres. The industry situation in which Sumitomo finds itself when it comes to Japanese OE supply probably impacts the Dunlop brand reputation globally, but from my personal experience with French-made Dunlop I have to say the brand has some amazing replacement products on offer. Even more confusing is the fact that OE Roadsport 2's work well on some bikes, not so well on others and not at all on some, whereas its replacement equivalent (a mid-tier offering) is good value and has ample performance. A note on the side: on the same day I tested the GX on the mk3's, I also had a spin on the Tracer 9 GT+ on its OE-spec Bridgestone T32. The same comments on Japanese OE tyres applies to that bike, to a much lesser extent. You can feel that mainly the front tyre was tuned for high-speed stability and isn't not very keen on being chucked around. To date I can't compare with another fitment but the Yamaha would also benefit from other tyres to make it shine in the fun handling department.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I had a similar conversion with someone at Dunlop, I decided to not menion their name in case it got them in some hot water. Some OEM tyres are shocking on the Japanes bikes. Not all though, I quite like the S22's on my Tracer and the Mixtours on the V-Strom were even decent on a trackday! Cheers!

[@ElMuelio]

That's very useful information, thanks! My experience backs this up. I recently bought a new GSX-S1000 (naked) and the standard rear tyre was through to the canvas in 2674 miles. I've never had a tyre fall to bits like it before, and I've had plenty of Supercorsas and other track tyres in the past. I had another big day lined up the following weekend, and didn't have time to go and get a new tyre fitted, so I bought a second rear wheel with a good tyre on it. The replacement wheel had another Sportmax Road 2 but it had clearly been replaced as the wheel weights were stick on rather than clip on ones. I've put 1000 miles on that tyre already, which was slightly worn when I bought it, and it seems to be wearing at half the rate of the brand new one that came on the bike. I can't say it feels much different but that's just because they're such an odd profile, they feel pretty rubbish really. For next year I'll definitely get a new front and two new rears mounted up at the start of the year, should last me the season! Interestingly, the front is now down to the wear indicators after just 3700 miles, I usually get at least 10,000 to a front tyre because I just don't bully them much at all. Never seen such poor wear from brand new tyres...

[@paullord8067]

Had similar issue with the front end on my GSX8S but after changing to Road 6's ive had no trouble. Feels like a different bike!!

[@grahamcunliffe9352]

My new Honda CB750 Hornet came with Dunlops on and they were awful, the rear end moved around alarmingly, I now have Michelin 6s on and it handles amazingly.

[@ProphetAndLoss]

My Honda Dunlops were trash as well. Gpr300

[@Kaaregorn]

I have a 2024 Hornet and find the OEM tyres trash, especially in wet conditions. Debating between Michelin Road 6 and Power 6, leaning towards Power 6's. Which ones did you decide for?

[@grahamcunliffe9352]

@Kaaregorn Road 6s, thay are awesome.

[@cube1cze]

​@@Kaaregorn I used to have Power 5 on my Kawasaki Z750 they are superb grip they hold on tarmac so great, heat up really well but i think they wont last you as much (sold the bike with the tires on for 2000 km and they were still pretty good).

[@SomewhereInside]

Have OEM Dunlops on Transalp in Oz , 9500kms and probably another 2000kms left in them easily . No off road , but rough bitumen back roads , with moderate throttle .

[@ashleyhinton6926]

The weird feeling on the front is down to the Dunlop tyres. I have pirelli st on mine, transforms it, different bike

[@Englishbikerdan]

Maybe, but I have to test these bikes with the tyres they are supplied with and report back. Who knows, maybe Suzuki will realise putting rubbish tyres on this bike was a misstep.

[@peterlarkin1506]

I used to ride a kawasaki sx and it took I while to become comfortable with the GX. I agree that the cruise control button is too far from your thumb. I also noticed, under steer at low speeds when turning a corner, and a scary front-end wobble when giving it a hand full and also felt a bit of scary movement in the back end when leaning in to bends, which made me lose confidence... All of these issues disappeared when I changed the tyres to Michelin GT Road 6.... Ive done 8k miles since buying it in March and Now I love the bike. Can't say I've experienced any of the gadgetry issues you had apart from the delay on the quick shifter, which is an occasional nuisance..

[@Englishbikerdan]

Glad you're enjoying the bike. I'm sure tyres would solve most of the issues, but I have to base my reviews on the oem equipment. Happy riding!

[@peterlarkin1506]

Thank you for your review, I didn't take your review personally as some did, which i think was unfair...i thought you gave a good review and agreed with some of it... i am only 5 ft7, so wanted a smaller bike than the BMW XR which is too big overall for a man of my stature.....​Ive always loved the jap 4 engines and the suzuki just ticked all my boxes, not too big, blisteringly quick, sporty but comfortable. I ride with my mate who has had 3 XR,s, he os the same height as me and looks extremly awkward when handling the bike...there just not for me...@Englishbikerdan

[@rustworks2588]

Another brilliantly produced review! Thanks Dan! Its a real shame to hear that the bike lacks on all these areas. Longterm testing is the only way to pick these out. I know opinions are subjective but I still appreciate the honesty 🙏

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@rustworks2588 Yep, and new tyres might change the bike but I have to to test it what I get given.

[@ashleyhinton6926]

The breaks are also completely transformed with sintered pads, I put SBS in mine, they take about 500 miles to bed in bit then the brakes are worlds apart from the standard set up

[@Englishbikerdan]

I've heard that too. I might try that on my Strom 800.

[@ashleyhinton6926]

@@Englishbikerdan I test rode one of those a couple of times, loved it, don't remember the breaks being bad

[@ashleyhinton6926]

It was the DE though not yours

[@lold6130]

BRAKES

[@robertaugustine5350]

I looked at most of the bikes in this segment and ended up buying a slightly used 2023 BMW S1000XR. More money yes, but way better as a long-term owner (I keep bikes for several years). It’s got 600 miles on it now and your comments about having to ride them for a bit is spot on. My baseline is a minimum of 300 miles in traffic, open road and twisties and you then can make an honest assessment of its actual capabilities.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yep, an hour or two isn't really worth it. To the point where I will not be riding any more bikes that way for content. It's simply not enough time to make much of an opinion.

[@ganuvien]

Unfortunately suzuki also puts 190/50 tires on the GT and GX which contributes to the garbage handling for us sporty riders. Changing to 190/55 is an immediate difference, the engine was super smooth though when I had my GT other than some annoying handlebar buzz cruising at around 6-7k rpm or so. I think I even burned through the stock rear tire it came with in like 1200 miles.....

[@JohnLongdin]

Really interesting that Dan, I had a similar thing with the Metzelers on my Tiger 900 and once it's in your head, that's it!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yep, once you lose trust in the tyres it's hard to get it back.

[@HippoDrones]

Interesting to hear the comments on the handling. No new bike these days should have handling issues.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Absolutely mate, they need to bin off these horrible oem tyres!

[@HippoDrones]

@@Englishbikerdan Gotta be worth a try

[@philt5455]

I seem to recall that most testers on the launch thought the tyres were not up to scratch. Seems to be a an own goal on Suzuki's part.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah I saw some comments, which I dismissed as something ex-racers might say of most road tyres. But seems they hold some weight.

[@bazitube390]

@@Englishbikerdan OEM tyres are not good. even the OEM s22s and rossso 4s are not the same as the ones you buy aftermarket.

[@BodybuildingSteve]

suzuki seem to do that a lot, the sport tourer they sell comes with terrible tires too

[@GripEngineering]

Dunlop Roadsport 2 tires were OEM on my 2024 Ninja 650. Grip wasn't good, but that tire was also terribly harsh, at suggested AND lowered pressures. A set of Michelin Power 5 tires transformed the machine. No suspension work required, just tires. Last week I added a 2024 V-Strom 800 Touring (USA) to the stable (19" front, road biased like the RE). It comes with Dunlop D614 tires, but they have proven to be even more than adequate, in fact, very good. I like them, even though I was prepared to replace them! I did drop pressures 1.5 psi from suggested, but they work great on that bike. Thanks for your honest opinion, Dan. It creates helpful discussions. This GX might be someone's perfect bike with a different set of tires, or they may find the consistency of a V-Strom 800's more basic suspension to be best for their use.

[@roadwarrior8560]

Suzuki had to issue a recall on the Dunlop tyres on the 800 re and de models.

[@sivanm2130]

The weird cruise control button on the throttle side is because Suzuki hacked the master cylinder to cut off the cruise control when the brake is activated

[@boblynch7535]

Makes me love my Tiger 900 GT Pro more and more. Which is what I need to do. I was looking to upgrade to a 24 but it would have been $9000!

[@christianweller4288]

It may also be a touch of the “four cylinder blues”. I had a four once and the predictable turbine like acceleration, smoothness and general lack of character (whatever the hell that means) drove me back to a large single in under a year. I’m just a happy chugger I guess.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah maybe, although I enjoyed the GT and naked S models.

[@stevethomas6479]

Something doesn’t add up with oem tyres with Suzuki I’ve just had a brand new pair of A41 tyres fitted free on my 800 DE by Suzuki it’s changed the bike so much it’s unreal the oem tyres were very poor Suzuki customer service was brilliant

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah the OEM tyres are woeful on this.

[@officercrabtree3624]

I like your videos, haven't seen this one yet, but in the comments lot of people got triggered, anyway, like you replied to one guy, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I like the bike myself but looking forward to hear why you dislike it, might reveal something new to me

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

Companies are starting to believe that because they have technology they must use it in every possible scenario, they're programming away the feel of riding a motorcycle and making it feel like you're riding an iPad with wheels.

[@ihatetechnomusic5232]

I bought mine in april and got 9000km as of writing this comment. I love the engine but the tires are terrible, mirrors tend to vibrate above 5k rpm, and the seat .. even the comfy seat from Suzuki, it's just not good... Somtimes it tends to wobble around 170kmph, but thats maybe the rubber... Im thinking about trading it in for something else tbh...

[@Englishbikerdan]

Re the seat, it seems too narrow to offer a good level of comfort and to help spread the weight out.

[@davidhutka]

hi are you thinking of changing the motorcycle or...

[@jacobellw]

All videos don't have the be positive. Reviewers roles are to be honest. And being honest isnt always being positive but the video itself WAS constructive rather than just hate. Solid video, thank you Dan!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Absolutely, I will continue to give my opinion. Most bikes I enjoy, this one missed the mark.

[@jacobellw]

@@Englishbikerdan Keep doing what you're doing.

[@Eddie78957]

Had a new one, after 1000mls the engine started to rattle. was part of it, the dealer said. The paint is very sensitive to scratches. The water flows under the passenger seat when it rains. Now I have a Ninja 1000sx, I should have done it sooner.😢

[@tonychettleburgh8953]

I have the GT but how do you find the SX as regards to fit / finish build quality and ride quality ?

[@Eddie78957]

The quality is much better . Easy to ride fast machine. The seatposition is like a Fjr wich I had before .

[@alexugljesic8857]

​@@Eddie78957how does Ninja compare to FJR? I also have Ninja and thinking to switch to FJR.

[@Eddie78957]

The Fjr has far better wind protection. Seating position is about the same. The same power but the much lighter weight makes the Ninja lot easyer to ride.

[@davidobrien9508]

I love my GSX-S1000GX I agree with the rubbish OEM tyres and can't wait to change them. I also plan to change the master cyclinder to Brembo or Gale speed, new pads. On backroads where you can get away with a bit of speed, the engine and suspension are absolutely awesome. I expect to own this bike for a very long time.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I just couldn't enjoy this bike on any road other than perfectly surfaced main roads. Glad you are enjoying it though!

[@Red-74-]

I agree dan, i wasn't fussed either. Also I don't understand people wanting POWER for tourers, the whole point of touring is to enjoy the scenery, you can't do that at warp acceleration or high speed, they're just being cocks. Keep it on track like i do.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Well, in which case I'm one of those on occasion. I do prefer doing my tours at a reasonable speed though. I like to take in the views.

[@MrRobinfisher]

Always found the older kwaks z1000sx displayed similar characteristics for the handling like you say. 2021 upwards completely different amazing handling bike. Always feel really cramped on new Suzuki bikes.

[@paulfowler7618]

I bought a 2019 SX and handling was weird at low speed until I changed the OE tyres and the bike was transformed. I now own the current Ninja version which never had this issue.

[@onlyonejustin]

I own the GT version with the same stock tyres. They’re honestly the worst tyres I’ve ever had the displeasure to ride on. They’re actually dangerous in the wet the grip is that bad. In the dry the front end is very twitchy as you’ve found out.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Glad it's not just me then! Thanks for watching!

[@stephenchapman8344]

Great to hear an honest review. Biking has been and always will be a personal experience.👍

[@Englishbikerdan]

Most definitely, and as always my videos are just an opinion. Thanks!

[@jfro5867]

I don’t think most riders (self included) really know what they are doing when it comes to preload, rebound, compression settings. There’s too much to meddle with. On most bikes I believe the factory settings are there for a reason and shouldn’t be messed with. I’m 19 stone and have never had any issue with any bike I’ve ever ridden or owned when you ride them normally.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I know the basics, but tbh I don't have the time of inclination to faff about with suspension in my review vids. Maybe people think that makes the reviews less worthwhile, but I like to review a stock bike and if I can get it for longer, then I will tweak things.

[@heikothomas5883]

The choice of tyres can make a huge difference. Don't make a final judgement on the handling before trying another tyre.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Not realistically possible with review bikes, so I review what I get given. On the upside, if you own one it's an easy fix I guess!

[@SzFJ]

sounds like the tyre issue that Lamb Chop identified.

[@glenndegroof668]

Sounds like my old '22 z1000sx, the bike was fine on fast corners with perfect road surface. Otherwise it was an underdamped, understeery mess. And it was on S22's, brilliant tyre. Bike always felt cramped also. So thanks for the review, I can remove the GX from my shortlist as a next bike 😂

[@andrewroberts5416]

That’s not like my experience of the Ninja1000SX. I’m on my second and it’s a fantastic bike!

[@paulfowler7618]

I own 20 plate Ninja 1000sx and it handles brilliantly. However before I had a 2019 z1000sx which handled strategy at low speed on the OE tyres but when I changed them the bike was transformed.

[@davidnunnerley9084]

Sounds like a change of tyres could improve things greatly.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Absolutely! Would be nice to have it longer so I could sort that, but sadly it's not realistic for my reviews.

[@benkelly2190]

Good review mate. Good to see some honesty. I know there ain’t no bad bikes, these days, but bikes are so diverse! That’s what makes them so bloody good.👍🏻

[@Englishbikerdan]

I like most bikes, but when I don't, I will tell people. :)

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

I like Suzukis, but this one is not my cup of tea. Somehow I have a feeling that they made it just because they had to do something and be present on the market. Nice video Dan. Would love to try one anyway.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yep, always worth trying things for yourself as you may love it! Cheers!

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

@@Englishbikerdan That is right, would try it, because I like to try all bikes. :)

[@Mike_P646]

I had OEM sportmax on my old Kawasaki and I think they were made out of recycled Lego. I put road 5's on it and it was transformed.👍

[@Englishbikerdan]

Haha, they feel like Lego!

[@GenproEnterprises]

The bike is overpriced. In Australia they are asking $25, 895, $795 for heated grips, $575 for centre stand = $27,265 with $1000 to spend in shop. Chance to change out the tyres. You could take it off the luggage, Luggage is $1950. The BMW XR is $32,152.58 with centre stand and heated grips as standard. $4,887 dearer. For me I think I would go the BMW.

[@barney3417]

Tried one back to back with the tracer 9 GT+. bought the Tracer, far better for me!!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Tracer is hard to beat, bang for buck and the CP3 engine!

[@cengizkurban]

No offense. Please don't take it personally. But people are spoiled nowadays with all the technologies and features, in my opinion. This bike is awesome and they look at a few bikes all together and expect to have in one bike. It takes a few bikes for a person to find the right one. My first one was the Honda NC750X, then the BMW F900XR, and now the Suzuki GSX S1000GX. I was happy with all of them and, they all had missing features or issues. It's easy to say, go and get yourself a BMW R1300GS or Ducati Multistrada V4. Then where is fun? They have everything but are expensive and maintenance is way too high. So long word short; don't be afraid of buying this bike. Do a test ride, maybe this bike is not good for Mr. EnglishBikerDan, but it would be good for you.

[@Englishbikerdan]

No offence taken. I believe Suzuki will be changing the stock tyres for 2025. So there's obviously something to it.

[@DukeJohnny]

When they announced it I immediately thought of the original GSX-S1000 GT + quote from the Godfather "look how they massacred my boy".

[@Englishbikerdan]

Haha!

[@Dom75GR]

Just came back from a test ride. That bike is fantastic

[@Englishbikerdan]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@christopherhorton5449]

From other reports, I think its the tyres, however I have had two adventure styled bikes with 17 inch front wheels and I think they handle strangely especially with half worn tyres. They put all that tech on it and cant provide a comfy seat and an easily adjustable screen

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah tyres are a big no no. Odd decision by Suzuki.

[@pod507]

I had those tires on my CB650R and the handling was terrible, put on some grippy tires with more agressive profile and the bike is transformed. Dunlop D214 is just too hard and too flat.

[@Volksplane1]

Lots of New Powerful bikes have poor tyres and over complicated traction controls reducing feel as a pilot of the machine. Hope the Manufactures listen to what we want, not what they think we want. Bought an 2023 XSR with poor tyres...Small front Mudguard another point where we have no choices. More be buying older bikes if the trend continues. Do the Dealers get the Manufactures ear?

[@Englishbikerdan]

I find it maddening that they spend all this time and money on what is probably an amazing bike, and stick garbage tyres on it.

[@AdamForeman]

The problem with these new bikes with technology, they will need firmware updates to all the systems that use it. The new 1300GS, has received a few updates since it's launch to rectify a lot of owners issues. Unless you're aware that there are updates available, how do you know what has been fixed and what needs to be fixed.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I would hope that at each service, this work would be carried out.

[@u187146]

I don't particularly trust any of those ADV bikes for pushing on as there isn't enough weight on the front tyre. Basic physics.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I've ridden a few of the sportier crossover bikes that handle as good as a sportsbike. Tyres is the main issue I think.

[@philliplum3845]

I think it's a confusing bike.. The Tracer although not perfect is better in my view. CP3 engine is a peach, comes with panniers, centre stand and heated grips as standard. Pillion seat is better too. The next sports tourer which fits this criteria is the NT1100.. It's a shame I love Suzuki, ex busa owner.. But it feels they have lost their way with this one..

[@Englishbikerdan]

I feel they maybe felt they just needed to throw their hat in the ring with this one and make a crossover bike to compete with the others. The suspension is clever, but if they tyres are rubbish you aren't really going to get much out of it imo. If everyone is changing the tyres, that should be sending some messages to Suzuki as to where they need to improve.

[@tonychettleburgh8953]

I have a GSX S1000GT and I think it is a nice bike , not perfect but very good. I think what they should have done with the GX is instead of having expensive electronic suspension they should have used Shower adjustable front forks, a Shower adjustable rear shock with remote preload, center stand, heated grips, better tyres and a screen with and easy adjustable system like the one on the Vstrom 1050 0r Kawasaki SX. The money saved on the electronic suspension would have given this bike everthing it and customers wanted instead of leaving the bike wanting. Money spent in the wrong places.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Perhaps you are right, as nice as electronic toys are, not sure it's needed on a bike like this.

[@inked-96]

A brand new GX can be picked up for 13k. Base XR is 17.2k. Yes, add another 700 for heated grips and centre stand, but that's still £13,800/14,000. That's over £3000 cheaper than the spec for spec XR TE whilst also retaining better reliability and cheaper servicing. This is its main rival. I think Suzuki did a fantastic job. It's fun, reliable, quick, and for an I4, it actually has character. Why criticise a bike on it's on handling knowing full well it's the tyres, shows your lack of experience and just tells me you couldn't be arsed to do a thorough test.. regardless of whether it was only 3 weeks. If new tyres weren't an option, then why criticise it.. you knew full well that any genuine road tester, other than yourself clearly had the tyres changed which solved the front end. I genuinely feel baffled by your comment on that and won't be continuing to watch your content.

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@inked-96 We all have our own opinions. It's not for me.

[@richardbrooks4549]

XR is under 16,800. GX is 14,499. But heh, don’t let facts interfere with a your well reasoned argument 😂

[@benkelly2190]

I’d buy the better bike! The XR. Oh wait, I did!

[@inked-96]

@richardbrooks4549 I mean you're more than welcome to check autotrader... that's if you care to stop being a lazy fucker.. Even my local dealer is shifting these at 13.2k... but I guess a main suzuki dealer is wrong? And I do believe I was at bmw last month and was told the XR TE started at 17.2k, or again? Are you questioning bmw in their pricing?😂💀

[@inked-96]

@@richardbrooks4549 I rest my case.... now get of your arse and actually look instead of commenting bollocks Richard.

[@Carvetii]

i think Suzuki are making the best value bikes an the market at the moment

[@Englishbikerdan]

They make some great bikes for sure.

[@stuartmoles843]

I’ve been looking at this group of Suzuki’s and can’t help thinking that the GSXS 1000 is still the best of a bunch. There is a 4k difference between this and it’s no frills relation, nearly a 1/3rd of the cost for fancy suspension and a set of luggage?

[@Englishbikerdan]

Hard to argue with your logic there!

[@splodge57]

And the Kawasaki Z1000SX can be bought for a lot less.

[@yanzm6713]

The Battlax t32's or A41's might change the handling

[@Englishbikerdan]

Probably, but I have to test a bike on the tyres it comes with.

[@1990-t1j]

'Don't love' and 'dislike' are different emotions. I don't like it as it has an inline four. I prefer triples.

[@Englishbikerdan]

If I dislike something, by definition, I don't love it. So for me, tis the same horse but different jockey.

[@MGman100]

Oh...Interesting review 😮

[@Englishbikerdan]

Just my opinion, as with all my vids. But I have to be honest with how I feel about the bike I'm on. Thanks for watching!

[@udishtelman687]

I have been riding my new GX for a few days now ,love the bike, you are completely wrong, no wobbles what so ever. What a great bike. You don't agree with your reviews at all nonsense

[@Englishbikerdan]

It's not wrong; it's just a different opinion from yours. I also rode this for 3 weeks to see if things improved. They did not for me. Glad you are enjoying your bike, but I didn't enjoy it. If that rubs you up the wrong way, oh well!

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

I've gone off Suzukis bought a new sv650 in March 2023, traded it 3 months later on a new 8S that I also kept only 3 months, got rid of that after 3 months as well. Both bikes felt like they wanted to rattle the eyeballs out of my skull. Cmon Suzuki tyres and suspension matter!

[@Englishbikerdan]

To be fair, I think both the SV and 8S are awesome.

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

@@Englishbikerdan yes good bikes but very compromised by budget suspension. Apparently 8S sales are abysmal, you can't give them away second hand. The engine shines, but the rest is a bit meh in my opinion as an owner.

[@davidobrien9508]

​@@tonyjourneyman1944Nothing some racetech springs and gold valves won't fix.

[@steveball2307]

Be very interested to see your views on one fitted with a pair of good quality sports touring tyres if you ever get the chance. More or less every review I've seen says the oem tyres aren't up to the job.....

[@Englishbikerdan]

It's a tricky thing to organise. As the press bikes have to have the oem tyres on them when it goes back. That gets expensive and a right faff sourcing and fitting tyres for a 2 week loan. That said, I will see what can be done but I can't guarantee it.

[@steveball2307]

@@Englishbikerdan I absolutely understand the problem and sympathise, it's incredible that Suzuki scored such an obvious own goal. You take a bike which on paper looks an absolute winner, spec it with mediocre tyres and get lots of luke warm reviews... Any biker knows the massive difference good tyres make.

[@lold6130]

The gearing is not right on this bike. Just buy different size sprockets.

[@Englishbikerdan]

A bit too tall geared for my liking.

[@darekm6859]

Does the GT have the same handling issues? Do you have long term thoughts about the GT?

[@Englishbikerdan]

The GT seemed fine to me, it's been a while since I've ridden one though. But even at the UK launch in a very wet Scotland it handled well.

[@elrondsch]

Okay, now we know that the worst part of the bike is actually not the bike=) Nothing a good set of tires cant fix. Thanks

[@Englishbikerdan]

It's kind of the most important bit though. The bit that connects the bike to the road. Why they put those tyres on I'll never know!

[@lold6130]

This bike does have an adjustable screen but you need tools to adjust it. You can't do it on the fly.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I said this.

[@andrewshore262]

The dashboard is good 😕, why do they penny pinch I don’t get it this bike has the credentials to be an absolute winner……. Reprogram the electronics, an aerodynamic screen that adjusts, allow the foot pegs some adjustment fore and aft and up and down, drop in the engine from 2017? GSXR 1000 (variable valve timing) visit a different seat foam supplier, change the geometry on the fra…….actually fcuk it - just buy an XR and live on bread on water for a while 😂. 10/10 for being honest, so many are just schilling and clearly being eco with truth…..they don’t think we can’t see it 🤔🤣

[@Englishbikerdan]

Haha. Well the XR is a bit expensive for me. I think Suzuki could start with decent tyres and that would be a big change.

[@johna6968]

You sound a little like my ex Mrs in this upload 🤔

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@johna6968 Her front end was a bit rubbish too eh!

[@benkelly2190]

@@Englishbikerdan😂

[@valebliz]

"I don't like the bike. Why? The OEM 6k miles old rubber is bad!!1!1" I rarely heard a take more stupid than this one reviewing a bike. Tyres are consumables.

[@Pommo70]

@@valebliz he didn’t like it, Get over it.

[@valebliz]

@@Pommo70 I don’t mind he didn’t, but of all the possible reasons he chose the most meaningless. Schaff’s riding video sums up this bike pretty well, but you know… he can actually ride.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Hahaha, I literally have to review a bike I get given. I can't review a bike on something it hasn't got on it. Yeah, you can change them but Suzuki have opted to put these tyres on the bike stock. That's what I'm revewing. Weird take my guy. Guess you own one?

[@Englishbikerdan]

Good for Schaaf. He is an amazing rider and way better than me. I'm a normal rider and my reviews reflect that and are all my opinion. Tyres are not a meaningless thing, they are probably the single most important aspect of a bikes performance. It's the connection to the bike and the road afterall. What I am presenting is a honest review of what I think of the stock bike, you are spending £13k on a bike and have to change the tyres to get anything near what the bike is meant to do. That's wrong and needs to be talked about.

[@Pommo70]

@@Englishbikerdan along with Chops and UsernameKate, you are one of the best reviewers out there. Keep up the good work!

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

a quick question for you have you tried the new Suzuki GSX S950 there’s two different versions of this bike the second one has the 1000CC engine with 152 bhp and they both have Suzukis own version of the quick shift gearbox both of these bikes came out earlier this year the other bike is a BMW R12nineT this again comes in two different versions

[@Englishbikerdan]

What's the question dude?

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

Have you ever test ridden either of those Suzuki bikes

[@djefferson02]

excuse me mister, can you keep the camera still? im getting sea sick

[@Englishbikerdan]

@djefferson02 Nope. Sorry! 😵‍💫

[@jasper5974]

You no like.

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@jasper5974 I do not.

[@ferrisnox]

So its just bad stock tires... I think that is the takeaway??

[@splodge57]

Overpriced and they put cheap tyres on it. A lot of money and a lot of faults.😂

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah, really silly decision!

[@paulfowler7618]

Did you say this bike has 6000 miles on and is still on OE tyres? 🤔

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yes indeed, it had done 5,800 miles when I picked it up I think.

[@splodge57]

About time they put a decent set of tyres on. (Which it should of come with in the first place.)

[@valebliz]

😂😂 that says it all doesn't it

[@stefanterzich3243]

That bike is not for you. I will take it and appreciate it. I will give you 1000 uk squid for it because it absorbed a lot of negative talk from you and it will take me months of giving it positive vibes to counter the damage you done.

[@Englishbikerdan]

What gave you the impression it wasn't for me? :D

[@stefanterzich3243]

@@Englishbikerdan ok you keep it but no more negative talk around it. You need to make sure you are at least 500ft away from the bike if you want to talk negative so the bike cant hear you 😅. I will then get 2025 in red color for myself 😍

[@prof.2248]

Tyres are the problem. On Diablo rosso 4 is great.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I imagine they make a big difference. Which goes to show what a misstep this is from Suzuki.

[@neoquest2012]

The oe Dunlops are absolutely rubbish, a sticky set of Michelins works a treat 👍

[@Englishbikerdan]

Maybe, but I can only review the bike I get given. And it's not feasible to change tyres for a review.

[@neoquest2012]

@@Englishbikerdan for sure 👍 So many sales must be being lost after test rides because the Tyres are so bad 🙄

[@paulneedham3608]

It's the tyres needs more sporty tyres

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yep, same conclusion I think! Sticky rubber!

[@donnyazoff980]

I test rode one of these bikes a few months back and found it underwhelming. I would say my Tracer 900GT would be faster down low, the buffetting on my helmet at 100kmh was horrendous and the foot pegs were too high so it felt like my legs were cramped. I must say though I thought the suspension was amazing.

[@korazon3spinado]

You like the gsx8r better?

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yes.

[@fuglbird]

How does it handle? Can you explain that? I do not ride with underinflated tires but reducing the tire pressure normally increase grip. You are suggested the opposite without being specific. How much experience do you have riding motorcycles?

[@Englishbikerdan]

I feel like you should probably just watch the video and listen to what I say. Been riding 25 years but I'm no expert.

[@maomekat7969]

just watch the video and listen to what he says before looking like a right idiot

[@tomg6284]

Kill the music.

[@Englishbikerdan]

No.

[@Centella50]

this guy it has to be biase or rookie or just learn to ride bikecycle and now motorcycle.....embarassing

[@Englishbikerdan]

Haha, thanks brother!