2024 BEST Sports Tourer! | BMW S1000 XR vs Suzuki GSX-S1000 GX

[@paulneedham3608]

Got to say you two doing road tests together are so much fun from people you ride everyday. Better than the magazines.

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks 👍

[@pabloblascocarrascosa5425]

Yamaha needs to design the Tracer 10 crossplane

[@rockyp3917]

Make that a MT12, 180 hp crazy bike too

[@monkmoto1887]

Remake the mt01 with the vmax engine, then we can talk

[@nomdeploom5707]

The MT10 Touring was probably supposed to cover that segment but I think they've binned those now.

[@MrDeepseadweller]

CP4 engine is too thirsty for a tourer

[@SirMountainpass]

Or launch the Tracer 9 SP with a CP3 Turbo engine (Yamaha filed a patent a few years ago) 😎✌️🔥

[@thedragon1322]

I do like how you mentioned just how good of a job Suzuki did on their first run of electronic suspension. They tend to be a bit late to the game but they get it right on the first trek into the market vs rushing to market and spending a couple year models dialing it in. They also manage to make everything at a better price point which always makes it more competitive. Even at a similar setup, you could upgrade the Suzuki exhaust and a flash and still be under the base price of the bimmer.

[@Wadlbeisser69]

A geat test of both of you. I did exactly the same and finally bought the GX and haven't regret that. What a wonderful bike... i love it.

[@nickbetts2244]

Great review. Every suzuki I've owned from the old air/oil cooled bikes to the later water cooled gsxr's have been brilliant for the cost. Gearboxes are second to none. Great honest review from you guys, really enjoyed it 👍

[@anxiousappliance]

Gearboxes are so slick!

[@paul.vanhout57]

50+ years of motorbiking and Suzuki has always had a place in my motorbiking heart. Good to see them go head-to-head against the competition. Well done review and as always very entertaining👍

[@craigg4246]

I have had an almost a 50 year love affair with Suzi. She always pleases, and never lets you down…

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Paul 👍

[@dashuntas.m4045]

They might often be out-gunned on the specs sheet but there’s a reason why so many of their bikes are fan favourites

[@shadowred1980]

I'm glad you said the price of the bmw as tested, I think many forget that and just give the base bikes price. Great review, it just works with you and Greg.

[@LambChopRides]

Yes absolutely as none buys that version! 👍

[@ashleyreynolds6604]

What a great comparison, a real reality check. I recently had an XR as a loaner and liked it. Now I really want some seat time on the GX. The GX seems to punch above it's weight and everyone loves an underdog. Suzuki have struggled with sales of some of their bikes for no good reason, I hope this is the success it deserves to be.

[@anxiousappliance]

Yeah - I added a gsx-s750 to my orpahan bike collection. What a wonderful machine!

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

These comparisons with your riding buddy are excellent. The two of you work well together. Well done Chopper

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Kelly 👍

[@JEmmertz]

Got to agree on the format and the dialogue and thinkings that you have as a duo is bloody well unmatched by other approaches. Works exceptionally well! Carry on, chaps! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks buddy 😁👍

[@ianmalleau3398]

Thanks for yet another great team review guys! I can tell you first hand how much the Suzuki motor is hamstrung by stock ECU programming. I've re-programmed the ECU on my 2023 GT to remove the throttle limits that were imposed and got well over a second's difference in a quarter mile according to my GPS and better fuel mileage to boot!

[@LambChopRides]

Very interesting Ian, I would love to uncork mine..

[@ianmalleau3398]

@@LambChopRidesI acquired and used the Woolich Racing Log Box D-Can v3 on-bike harness which simply uses the existing obd2 port on the bike. It was evident to me looking at the stock maps that they seriously limited the power delivery after 8k RPM in all 3 modes along with RPM limit (11,800) and speed 'hard' limiting in each gear on the GT. Not sure about the stock settings on the GX though. The price is reasonable on the WRacing harness and software license. It allowed me to unlock the throttle responses after 8k RPM's, unlock the speed limiters and increase the rev limiter to be closer to the design specs of the motor. There was a nice gain on the mileage from 250km to 300km and I was able to decrease the fan activation temps. Another bonus is the glorious induction sound after 8k RPM that was not evident with the stock programming. I didn't touch the fuel or ignition mapping as they already looked quite linear in relation to throttle input and RPM relationships. I can share my maps if you're interested but I'm not sure if they'll work with the GX version of the ECU. I only mod my bikes and don't have access to a dyno so I road test. I'm no expert but there's a large difference in how hard it pulls with a much quicker quarter mile. My 'seat of the pants' estimate is about 25 or so ponies on a significantly higher top end which I've been too afraid to actually reach even though the bike feels very stable at high speed. I've been running it this way (sometimes a little hard) for a year now with no evident damage to the engine or change in how the quick shifter works. The traction control functions work a little harder as the bike power wheelies a bit now when it wouldn't before with TC on. Hope this helps..

[@ianmalleau3398]

@@LambChopRides I acquired and used the Woolich Racing Log Box D-Can v3 on-bike harness which simply uses the existing obd2 port on the bike. It was evident to me looking at the stock maps that they seriously limited the power delivery after 8k RPM in all 3 modes along with RPM limit (11,800) and speed 'hard' limiting in each gear on the GT. Not sure about the stock settings on the GX though. The price is reasonable on the WRacing harness and software license. It allowed me to unlock the throttle responses after 8k RPM's, unlock the speed limiters and increase the rev limiter to be closer to the design specs of the motor. There was a nice gain on the mileage from 250km to 300km and I was able to decrease the fan activation temps. Another bonus is the glorious induction sound after 8k RPM that was not evident with the stock programming. I didn't touch the fuel or ignition mapping as they already looked quite linear in relation to throttle input and RPM relationships. I can share my maps if you're interested but I'm not sure if they'll work with the GX version of the ECU. I only mod my bikes and don't have access to a dyno so I road test. I'm no expert but there's a large difference in how hard it pulls with a much quicker quarter mile. My 'seat of the pants' estimate is about 25 or so ponies on a significantly higher top end which I've been too afraid to actually reach even though the bike feels very stable at high speed. I've been running it this way (sometimes a little hard) for a year now with no evident damage to the engine or change in how the quick shifter works. The traction control functions work a little harder as the bike power wheelies a bit now when it wouldn't before with TC on. Hope this helps..

[@ianmalleau3398]

Just a quick revision to my previous comments.. Now that the colder weather has hit us here in Canada, I've had to do some revisions to my ECU mapping. I was definitely running into a lean condition which abruptly reared it's ugly head in the colder air. I hadn't changed the fuel mapping before in warm weather thinking it was 'automatically' relative to TPS or IAP but it was definitely not! The ECU seemed to also be limiting power based on knock sensor readings which is a good thing and probably saved my engine. I ended up having to enrichen the injector timing above 8k RPM and 52% TPS by about up to 30% (which appears to be approximately the same as the rotational % the throttle body is opening over stock restrictions).. just wanted to give an update in case anyone else is planning on doing this.

[@gprimeofx]

Suzuki all day every day!

[@anxiousappliance]

Hamamatsu FTW

[@brucerossonthetube]

Great comparison. One thing I would love to see is a comparison on maintenance costs. The Euro bikes are now baking in annoying maintenance warnings that are both mileage and date based. Some can not be reset at home and are nothing but a designed trip to the dealer to spend $.

[@Neutronb0mb]

Always great to see the dual vids with Greg. Great combo

[@BriKinsella]

I'm glad you mentioned quality of finish as it's a subject which is often overlooked or ignored yet obviously has a cost implication

[@anxiousappliance]

Haven't seen them together, but Suzuki knows how to screw together a motorcycle - very tidy, not a wire out of place.

[@ElMuelio]

​@@anxiousappliance They've definitely improved over recent years. Gone are the bandits and SVs with paint that fell off the engines after a few years!

[@anxiousappliance]

@@ElMuelio LOL - yeah, my duc has peeling engine cover paint. So far the Suzuki is doing better - time will tell.

[@SKgeostrat]

Looking at cost and reliability, I'd definitely go with the Suzuki. Cost of service, ownership over the life is much lower.

[@Saixtanwar]

The two rider format is a winner.

[@geoffreykeown2878]

Great vid, thanks chops and Greg, I've just traded my 1300gs on the xr and what a night and day transformation, i love the quick shifter on the xr, its soooooo smooth, ...........keep the vids coming there great

[@Reivbv]

You guys make the most relevant reviews! Thank you so much. Im in the market for a tourer and was looking at these exact two bikes

[@LambChopRides]

Glad to help! 😁👍

[@keithewington1644]

Reading the comments from BMW fans about image and how the BMW makes you feel better when you arrive at the coffee shop would have been enough to make me pick the Suzuki, but having ridden both and agreeing with you that they're hard tp split, Suzuki reliability won my money. The fact it's thousands less is also nice.

[@jasonbarrett968]

You do know...I only watch you two for the slow mo eating shots😂😂. There is also some useful bike info I guess. Nice work Chops and Greg!!

[@LambChopRides]

Haha thanks Jason 😁👍

[@stephenthomas5485]

And you forgot to mention running costs and the fact that suzuki give you a 7 year warranty

[@LambChopRides]

Yes good point 👍

[@diyeveryday67]

Wow! In the US Suzuki will only warranty for 12 months!! BMW has 3year warranty, unlimited miles and you can purchase additional 4 years from BMW for $1040 usd.

[@craigg4246]

In the U.S. here is only 12month warranty. Goes by fast

[@valebliz]

@@craigg4246 US is 3rd world country as usual.

[@SomewhereInside]

In Australia only 2 yr warranty on Suzuki , wonder why 7 yr in UK? Is it 7 yrs unlimited kms ?

[@NikosZ95]

I have the same tick pushing the flash button to turn them off! I think id still go with the XR! Great comparison video!

[@PeteAnda]

Great review thanks. 21k for something you will not ever look back at when parked. Suzy has the handling and gear box plus room. 1000sx and a Hornet or CRF for mud fun for 21k.

[@Chris-vq5vr]

You kidding me

[@PeteAnda]

Nope. Sorry if I don’t conform. SUV bikes are ugly in my eyes. Im old, 54, so still ride sports bikes, im from that generation. When I can’t I will look for a sports looking bike. That’s me and you are not me, enjoy your bike, ride careful. I will still nod to a BMW though.

[@MotoBikerMike]

Another great comparison vid gents 👍🏼 I sold my 2017 XR far too early, as a shorty I was put off as it felt (to me) as a large unit, and it being my first crossover/ADV bike, wish I kept it… however, the GX in this vid (and your others) looked very impressive indeed 👌🏽👏

[@clownworld-honk410]

If you've got the funds to afford either, what makes one more expensive than the other is resale value a few years on. Depreciation is the real cost of a bike (or car), not what is costs to buy. Insurance on BMW's tend to more than Japanese bikes also.

[@faithonwheels53]

You guys are brilliant! Absolutely lovely comparison, keep up the good work!

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks a ton! 👍

[@Jake23115]

So I recently traded in my beloved 2022 Triumph Street Triple RS for a leftover 2023 S1000XR M Sport (like the one in this video, except mine has a bunch of carbon fiber bits), I can safely say the XR is an amazing bike. I've already done a 600K (or 372 miles) in a day with just the sports screen on for protection and boy..... that bike didn't skip a beat. I do plan on doing a de-cat and putting a set of Akra stainless steel headers on, and a Stage 1 and 2 Brentune with all the fixings.... the thing is and will be a beast!

[@rlw85]

I’ve got a 21 s1xr TE and I got all those extras included.

[@wattie1050]

Great comparison chopsy ,always a good laugh with yourself and Greg , the sausage bap wins it for me 😁😁😁

[@LambChopRides]

Haha thanks Wattie! 😄👍

[@kevincummins9779]

Well you tried to make the BMW sound good lads ! But 6k difference is a joke... Suzuki wins hands down...

[@marcusgeorge1825]

If you rewind the clock back to before BMW entered WSB, what engine did the Germans pull apart and create their own. The Suzuki 999 cc. It’s not just the Chinese that people think copy others…. 🤔 Great review, Suzuki for me, full exhaust, Dyno tune, better tyres and you still have cash to spare.

[@ragerider6283]

Great comparison guys, very interesting & entertaining. Personally as a real person in the real world, the price point would draw me to the Suzuki initially. However, Greg makes a good point, on PCP & with the residual values, there probably isn't that much in it. What would really swing it to the Suzuki for me though is their bulletproof reliability & 7(!) year warranty. Plus Suzuki can do big discounts & will make a deal with you where as BMW less so. Really interested to see what you do with the Suzuki Chops. Full system & mapping is a must imo.

[@LambChopRides]

Yes really want to get a system and map it.. Will ask them 🤔

[@RoeyHaviv]

I can’t connect with these bikes on stilts / adv on 17s as sport touring. I miss the k1300. Suzuki should make a Hayabusa touring edition. These are like a fast SUV, i want a grand tourer.

[@TheScortUK]

Always quite liked the XR, but a bit too tall for my short arse lol! Got my tea, a poorly daughter, a broken collar bone - gonna sit in bed watching this. Thanks Chops and Greg!

[@LambChopRides]

Get better soon buddy 👍

[@deanharris9331]

Awesome shootout again, guys . Love it ❤️ 😊

[@michaellaw7525]

You two make a great team.carry on making those Videos

[@LambChopRides]

Thank you! Will do! 👍

[@edwingonzalez8840]

Definitely would love to see the Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx vs Suzuki gsxs GT. Great video guys! I really enjoyed it!

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Edwin 👍

[@steve_gooner0014]

I was just thinking that, I am looking to change my Honda Crossrunner over for a newer bike and the 3 on my list to look at are the Kwak SX, Tracer 9GT+ & the Suzuki GX.

[@Paulie44]

Likewise! I currently own the GT and unsure what to replace it with when I get to the end of my three-year PCP deal. I’ve been really happy with the GT save for the vibrations through the handlebars from 6,000 thru 7,500 rpm which causes white finger syndrome on long European tours; if I could get rid of those vibrations then I’d definitely get another GT.

[@tonychettleburgh8953]

@@Paulie44 That's really strange my GT has no vibrations at all and is really smooth right the way through. Have you had the engine mountings checked for tightness ?

[@Paulie44]

@@tonychettleburgh8953 I’ve not had the engine mounts checked, will give that a go thank you.

[@markieell5614]

Really good review from the 2 of you 👍🏻good laughs 😅 And the point brought over price wise ammm need to test The both cheers the pair of u keep it up 👍🏻🇬🇧🍺👍🏻mark

[@stevedavies-pp7dp]

I’ve mostly bought new Suzukis over the years , countless gsxR and even the TL1000R when they first came out … but I caught old age and went BMW K1200S and rather liked it apart from that telelever front end , deciding to change I looked at many bikes but they simply didn’t have that BMW premium feel , can’t quantify it but BMW simply feel different even the paint 🤷🏻‍♂️ so I went for the R1200RS put bar riser kit on and I couldn’t be happier or even think of changing

[@witchdoctor6502]

From my test ride of GX I remember that the seat was quite hard, other than that it was really nice bike - smooth, comfortable position, engine didn't really care about gear and speed, it was just going.

[@LambChopRides]

Seat does need to be a little wider would be a slight criticism on the Suzuki

[@borilapostolov7474]

The comfy seat on the Suzi does not bring much more joy compared to the stock one. Speaking from experience...

[@kevinrooney-u8r]

I'm a massive 44teeth fan but I actually prefer chops and his mate now

[@LambChopRides]

Wow quite the complement thanks 👍

[@batuonver5495]

I like you Chopsy and Greg too. You have become a fantastic partners in your videos. Very enjoyable. Appreciate it 🙏

[@markshirley7639]

The xr motor based on the s1000rr is based on the k5 gixer 1000! So they will feel similar. I have ridden both and the Suzuki is very budget compared to the xr (not the M)

[@johngoodlass]

I'm having fun on my Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello it certainly stands out and gets lots of attention

[@Nicholas-w7q]

I was pretty disparaging about this Suzuki when it came out. But it sounds like it is boxing well above its weight with the premium brand BMW

[@davidrutherford3345]

Seriously I haven't seen it yet Chopsy but its the XR will watch tomorrow really happy to see the XR back on your channel try the standard version sometime again its my dream bike.

[@SaskRiderMoto]

Great video. I would love to see the 1000GX against the Tracer 9 GT+....I know HP is different, but just the over all comfort, rideability and fun factor.

[@LambChopRides]

Challenge accepted!! 😁👍

[@SaskRiderMoto]

@@LambChopRides Cheers from Canada.

[@victormonster4658]

Because you get treated like your a dickhead in BMW’s showrooms i’d go for the Suzuki

[@anxiousappliance]

At least they have the decency to ignore you until the wallet comes out.

[@hunkyleepickle]

the first generation xr was just a cracking sports tourer. Nuclear fast and comfortable. the current generation got way too compact in the ergos department. I'd love to try the Suzuki, for the price i'd forgive quite a bit if i was cross shopping the two. Do wish they would have left the full fat untouched K5 engine in that Suzuki tho!

[@36moto]

One person mentioned vibrations years ago, and now every tester talks about the vibration , for god sake, motorcycles vibrate…..

[@neoquest2012]

I tested s1000 and loved it, tested a 22 plate GSXS1000 and couldn’t justify the price difference for the slightest performance gains! so bought the Suzuki, I actually love the look of the Gen 2’s stacked headlight and find it more comfortable , swapped the Dunlops (terrible tyre) for some sticky Mitchilins, nice slash can, dialled in the suspension and reckon I could hang most super bikes on a A/B road🤔 If you ever wanna do a comparison, I’m local ish, happy to lend it ya big fella 👍

[@LambChopRides]

Yes I can imagine it's awesome 👌

[@markm9978]

I rode both bikes and if you do not have an issue with the seat the XR is definitely the better one. Way more agile and the image is second to none as there are also M versions on the streets.

[@darekm6859]

4:26 - I'm 6'2", I don't get these comments about cramped footpegs. Coming off y SV1000S for my test ride, my legs felt almost stretch straight out on the GX. Loads of leg room.

[@petervautmans199]

On my XR, the flashing light that comes on when need to upshift is set to come on at 10500 rpm, Then shift moment is then between 11 and 11500. Yours is set to about 8000, so you miss out on a lot of real fun, as the xr (mine is a very late 2019) realy gets to hooligan teritory (where satan lives) at 7000 And for everyday use i, rainy cold Belgium, i switched to the Metzeler Roadtecs. And next time U ride home from Germany or Italy, give us a shout, we'll do a best roadside Belgian chippie search.

[@LambChopRides]

Yes the shift light was set to early however just ignored it 😁 The food hunt sounds great 😋

[@aaronlovett1925]

Lads super duke GT the best all rounder just finished tour in Spain & Andora and when I get home it will be back to doing track days just to piss off the sport bike riders you know I'm right chops 😂😂😂 keep up the good work love the channel 👍👍👍👍🏍️🏍️🏍️

[@cecilwilson5442]

Set off forged wheels and a full system,,bit off dyno time,,on the Suzuki, still a few quid left over,,,, just put marchesinis on my K6GSXR,,☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️but short legs 🦵🦵 from northern Ireland

[@AliG-iq4gd]

AND - you have the original wheels to put back on to sell/trade - and sell the forged wheels. £2k for the wheels - get £1k+ return when sold.

[@LambChopRides]

Yes that's very true Cecil 👍

[@headrace4863]

Looks like you guys enjoyed making this one… no doubt suzuki is true to form in delivering a lot for the money, as always. Reliability isn’t a question either. The earlier 1000XR’s do seem more premium and there an effective cure for the ‘bar vibes that’s remarkably low tech and invisible as it’s internal to the bars. Great work as always gents. 👍👍

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Head Race 👍

[@JohnEdmondMillares]

In my opinion on their design philosophy, both took the risk, BMW turned away from asymmetrical headlight design, Suzuki on the other hand stacked the projector lights vertically instead of traditional design like the rest do, and it's worth the risk.

[@modoudrammeh]

The Japanese bike will be way more reliable.

[@brucekendall52]

Loving these duel reviews.Thks

[@LambChopRides]

Glad you like them! 👍

[@DucatiDale]

Tried them all and bought the multi v4s in the end it’s criminal how fast you can go a to b on a bike with a 19 inch front

[@lundog8548]

Need to put that Suzi in A mode for roll on tests it picks up much better

[@ganuvien]

Needs a ECU flash too, wakes it up tremendously when I had my GT flashed by 2 Wheel Dynoworks.

[@Petesv321]

I own a 22 XR. Great machine, but you can’t argue the value of the Suzuki. Downside for me is the stupid service reset you have to go to dealer for. First service for an oil change was 200 dollars.

[@Soul_Searching]

Think the reason The Missenden Flyer didn't get on with the GX is because he's a very different kind of rider to you 2, and would naturally prefer twins to fours, due to there being more low down grunt. Dont think he'd be into the top end screamers like you guys 😊

[@nickrider5220]

Great duo test again chaps 👍🏻😎

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Nick 👍

[@michaelgemiouk]

Nice job not always the expensive bike are the best

[@markm9978]

Not always but in this case yes.

[@alanfelton9893]

Gregorio is next level

[@slakk5093]

the power couple of youtube bike reviews, only rivaled by stathan & sue

[@LambChopRides]

Haha thanks 😁👍

[@SteveBrowner]

Great video as usual chaps 👍 nice baps as well 😅

[@LambChopRides]

Haha, do love a couple of decent baps! 😁👍

[@agisspentzos7588]

According to gearingcommander, one tooth less on the front on the gx yields identical revs/speed ratio with the xr on 4th gear. Provided the gearing and internal ratios between the gt and the gx are identical that is. On that assumption I believe that the gx would have a considerably faster roll on that the xr.

[@LambChopRides]

OK very interesting... I might try that change on mine..

[@andrewshore262]

The outcome of this test seems to be at some odds with other reviewers regarding the Suzuki, the tyres do seem to be especially bad on the Suzuki……..Right now Suzuki are offering a really keen APR for non cash buyers, free side cases and if you have it serviced regularly a 7 year 70,000 mile warranty! But I’d still buy the XR

[@martinhughes9769]

Another great comparison video, for looks the B M , cost value goes to Suzuki, I don't like the stacked head lights, I was reading a while back that the lights on the suzuki are not very good for night riding , Slow down on the burger no ones going to take it off you ,😊

[@batuonver5495]

Chopsy, we should factor in the servicing/parts and after sale factors in too. Next time maybe 🙏

[@anxiousappliance]

Suzuki probably looked at the BMW - would seem smart, but for sure BMW studied the K5 when developing their I4. Haven't heard of any patent wars, so how close it is - who knows (probably Kevin Cameron). I have the 750 version of the K5 and what a beautiful thing. Looks are subjective, but the BMW looks like an NC750 that went to the gym. Not good IMO. The BMW is 7K more than the Suzuki - as you note in the intro. You could have the Suzuki for travel, and a Honda Hornet for blatting around town for the same scratch, or nice dinners with a loved one, or donate to a shelter, or those tattoos you've dreamed of, or.....

[@richiektm]

When your helmet goes on you turn into Paul Senior with that moustache😂

[@LambChopRides]

Haha I know looks terrible doesn't it! I lost my little nose piece on the autobahn 😄

[@gsm_liv8980]

The looks on the GX is way superior to me but the XR is a great bike as well.

[@TheGray1967]

Great review as always guys ….. with sexy bapage as a bonus 😂😂

[@inked-96]

That GX can be picked up for a low as 12.5k for am ex demo with as low as 300 miles of the clock. Factor in an addional £1000 for grips and centre, and it's still damn site cheaper than the XR.

[@NebulaLuna]

Every time I ride my GSXR 1000 for over an hour I wonder why I didn't get one of these

[@southywales]

Glad you got rid of the dunlop ditch finders or Dunflops.

[@grumpsrides42]

The only other (possibly) deciding factor, is servicing costs?! Having owned a BMW, I've noticed, the cost of servicing a BMW, is, in general, slightly higher, than that of a Japanese machine. This could, with the price difference, affect your decision (IMO)

[@richardmarsh1332]

Nice review, which works really well pitching the bikes back and forth and coming to an overall conclusion. Unfortunately, I would not buy either because, as standard, these machines are for guys with long legs. I know you can spec the XR for the shorter legged rider, but that adds to the already exorbitant price of this machine. As regards the Suzuki I was tempted by the GT version because it has a much lower seat height, but after hearing about the ongoing saga with problematic cam chain rattle, I decided to give it a miss. Suzuki must have messed around with its original design because it was bullet proof in the earlier motors.

[@morganmartin9286]

Tracer 9 gt vs Multi v2 s vs Mandello s would be a good one.

[@bakedbeanzontoast9078]

Great review, just finished building Gen 1 1290 SD R track bike, with a lot of help as I'm sorta one decent handed at the moment, recovering from a TIA , I hate this ageing process, ages 40 to 50 were OK but 50 to 60 not so much , oh well just the "death process" to look forward too ......😮😮😮😮, and a bag of smokey pig crisps to anyone who knows what sci fi movie that saying is from, cheers Chops and BSB Gregorio lol.👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@LambChopRides]

Oh no sorry to hear about the TIA buddy, Dad had those from his 50's every 5 years or so and is now 88!! So it's not all bad news 😁

[@bakedbeanzontoast9078]

Thanks for the kind words Chops, all the best.👍

[@wiwwee1]

Fun videos, but we need more SMC-R content. The most fun bike ever created just sits in the garage. Blasphemy 😂

[@LambChopRides]

Yes I know, it does get ridden but not on camera. Will do a vid on it soon 👍

[@wiwwee1]

@@LambChopRides I get it. Riding slow and legal is pretty much impossible on the SuMo.

[@craigcooper8810]

great vid boys!!

[@chrisb5986]

"It's no GS." Good. That's the point.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Hey guys - you were taking my Suzuki review in isolation, I also said the XR was vibey (though far less than previous iterations of the bike).....I do know what a non-vibey 4 pot feels like as I ride one very regularly (My Z900)......despite that, loved your comparison as ever, even though the Suzuki is very close in the ride dynamically, could you put up with the looks? I think the XR is now quite handsome (and let's face it for a BMW that's a rare thing), and that may be worth the extra £4K alone...lovin' your work and appreciate the editing complexity in here....

[@LambChopRides]

Thanks Andy, wasn't knocking you buddy and forgot you had the Z900! Yeah actually Kawasaki are the exception to the rule regarding vibes, my H2 is the same. So it can be done 👍

[@Kurlach]

Oooooo handbags at dawn!

[@dashuntas.m4045]

@@Kurlachyou can place bets either way me 😂

[@pricklypunter]

Suzuki have always been the manufacturer of the well sorted everyman bike, never really excelling at any one thing, but great all round, the Busa being an exception. The Beamer may be a little more premium in every way, but that includes long term running costs, which are also going to be pretty high compared to the suki. Suzuki have always produced an approachable bike if doing your own work as well, less so on the Beamer. I suspect in longevity terms, the suki is the better option. As you have concluded here, there's little in it in terms of capability, I say save your pennies, get the suki and put your savings into something with the fun factor, mini-bike anyone? 😁

[@Mototherapy_online]

Great vid guys 👌👍 Looking forward to that Tracer vs GX comparison ✌️And why not a GS vs XR ?

[@LambChopRides]

I've actually sort of done the GS vs XR on my Germany tour vid series 👍

[@Mototherapy_online]

@@LambChopRides True, but you two hooligans sharing points of view while swapping bike is a great format 👍

[@totalsellout2930]

Brilliant review

[@ninja12lawbreaker]

At those prices I would buy the Suzuki and get a nearly new Husqvarna 701 enduro with the change

[@93_Premium_Ube]

Just the video I needed

[@steve_gooner0014]

Good review, it maybe worth delving deeper into residuals that you mentioned earlier in the video, maybe include a bit of data around how the previous models have suffered over 3 years, does a BMW really keep it's value over the Suzuki and does that allow for the initial cost difference and more premium components / fit and finish. My impression of Suzuki is that it is the less premium of the 4 big Japanese brands, not sure if that is a fair view, but it's based on my ownership over the years.

[@LambChopRides]

Yes excellent idea actually 👍

[@ElMuelio]

Would love a comparison between the GX and the Tracer 9GT+! Excellent review, but I'm a little surprised neither of you mentioned the nannying head shake sensor in the GX. One little wobble and it cuts the throttle. I triggered it 3 times on the test ride and thought it was faulty. Admittedly I'm 18 stone so maybe it that makes it wobble more when pushing on, but expected Chopsy would find it the same tbh...

[@LambChopRides]

I've only ever triggered it on track at Cadwell Park, never on the road.. Was never triggered on this comparison.

[@ElMuelio]

@@LambChopRides I didn't have long to play with suspension settings, so I suspect I might have had the front too soft. All I did was turn it up to "luggage and pillion" mode. Do you reckon I could have made it less intrusive by adjusting the suspension manually instead of using the modes?

[@eamonblaney5368]

Suzuki 💪 always the underdog but always punch above their weight.

[@LonelyTreeSunset]

The lack of shift cam and the cost of the beemer put me off. If the S had shift cam that prioritised torque and not ultimate hp, then it would make a far better real-world machine.

[@KiwiMoto72]

Nice work Chopsy. Personally i love proper sport tourers. Love my Ninja 1000Sx. The Versys 1000 would be worth a run to eh?

[@skts2610]

Amazing to think, the Suzi has a K5 derived engine and the Beemer is only a few years old relatively speaking. Not that much difference in out right performance is there🤔