Engraving a wine glass- Comgrow Z1 10 watt

[@MrChamz99]

Thanks for making this video. I totally agree with comgrow making a rotary that can have the rollers widen more. When I work on tumblers, I will cut a wooden ring to place on the bottom side of the tumbler. The i.d. of the ring is the size of the narrow base and the o.d will be the size of the top side of the tumbler. Havent had any isseues when i do it that way. Hope that makes sense

[@TheClackShack]

Yea, I am familiar with the method but prefer to not have to use them. I may do a video using the method but in reality, I will just use my bigger roller.

[@brianwade5964]

The Xtools rotary works with the Comgrow and the adapters, I personally have used it and was capable of engraving many materials without any adjustments.

[@TheClackShack]

Yea, I have the old XTool rotary that I could use.

[@BiohazardDG]

Will the xtools RA2 Pro rotary work with the Comgrow Z1?

[@MKCraftsandFamily]

I really need to play with my rotary tool for my xtool someday! rotary is main reason I bought my laser... to etch glasses, instead of sandblasting them! Great video, thanks for sharing!

[@TheClackShack]

Thanks, glad you like it.

[@roberthembree8626]

Morning, I enjoyed your video, it was very informative. I have the same equipment and found that if I unstrung one roller to be un-driven by the belt and placed some weight in the tumbler the rotary drive worked without jittering the cup around.

[@TheClackShack]

I use added weights when needed also. Works for me

[@lindabowers7390]

Hi Clack, I really like the wine glass that you engraved. Good job.

[@TheClackShack]

Thank you!

[@jamesanderson7407]

Thank you for your videos, you have helped me decide on buying the Congreve Z1 10 watt.

[@TheClackShack]

It is a good machine.

[@TheRoadRoamer]

You just gave me a great idea for another Custom design. New rails for the Rotary that would allow the Rollers to spread farther apart. Rust oleum paint with Titanium Dioxide works well too. Just use the Mirror Output toggle in the Rotary Setup if it goes the “wrong” direction…

[@TheClackShack]

Sounds great!

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

@@TheClackShack I get mixed up. BlueSky is my 3D, Laser, Dye Sub channel. TheRoadRoamer is my Kit Car and Solar and DIY Battery Builds channel. And Travel once I get the Biz's going well enough for Incomes. Eloy.

[@RebelYell95]

If you want the frosted etching, use flat black spray paint on glass. Remove the paint and it's just like the traditional glass etching.

[@TheClackShack]

Yea, I do that on picture frames and some glass. I wanted a darker image on this one.

[@thehillbillyhermit7681]

please keep us updated on comgrow's response to the adjustable roller. I was just about tp pull the trigger on one of these until seeing this video. the larger tapered tumblers will most likely be a good portion of what I do. hoping to partially subsidize the pittance of Disability I get for becoming unexpectedly disabled

[@TheClackShack]

I have sent them an email with my input in future designs. They have been very receptive so far. It works well, just needs a little more width.

[@thehillbillyhermit7681]

@@TheClackShack I'll be waiting intently

[@TheRoadRoamer]

Another great video! And the Comgrow Rotary also works on the K40 with the extra 6-pin to 4-pin “A” cable included with the Rotary (not the “B” cable). Just connect it to the unused Z axis port and tell LB to use Z in the Rotary Setup. Little tip from me to you…😂🎉

[@TheClackShack]

Yea, I think it will work with my XTool one also. Thanks

[@davegirimonte9945]

Sorry I have the comgo z1, I have the ortur rotary and I've made jigs for that for the taped tumblers but I like the congrow because of the low profile,thanks

[@TheClackShack]

I have an XTool rotary for my 20 watt that I can use. I do like the comgrows ability to do wine glasses.

[@webnyoung]

What about designing a guide on either side of roller using pom wheels for wider cylindrical objects?

[@TheClackShack]

You could

[@harmonic75]

If your worried about the focus you could use an identical glass that isn't coated yet then swap them after setting it. Added - the wiggling your getting with the tumbler is because it's tapered - the ends are turning different amounts relative to the rollers. If it was cylindrical it wouldn't wiggle even if it's big. If you add a spacer ring to the smaller end to lift it off the rollers it will track straight (or maybe rest it on the bearings you used for the wine glass). It needs to be the same diameter as where the top of the tumbler lands on the rollers.

[@TheClackShack]

I tried using the bearings but it didn't work. I may ba able to do it with a taper ring but would rather just use my other roller than chance it.

[@lindavervoort5961]

Wow very nice!!! what settings do you use with the wine glass in lightburn?

[@TheClackShack]

I recommend testing your machine to determine settings. Each machine and material is different

[@MarklTucson]

Was it the diameter of the tumbler or the taper? Seems like the taper would cause issues and induce lateral motion. If you were to make a ring at the ID of a part of the tumbler toward the bottom and the OD of the large diameter of the tumbler, the tumbler will rotate uniformly. Because of the change in diameter, the taper is going to induce lateral motion when the piece is rotated. To illustrate this, try pushing a paint can on the table, it will roll in roughly a straight line; now push a tapered tumbler, it will roll in a circular path. This is because the distance traveled by the smaller diameter in one rotation is going to be less than the distance traveled by the larger diameter in that same rotation.

[@TheClackShack]

The taper is a contributing factor but I have done hundreds of the same tumbler on a wider roller without any issues.

[@idmnstr]

In this video you show a wood insert that the Comgrow Rotary Tool fits into with leveling spacers. I purchased the your Comgrow Z1 interchangeable jig kit. These templates were not included. I am sure this was a mistake. Please provide a link to these templates.

[@TheClackShack]

those are square pieces of wood that I made on other tools. Not a laser file as stated in the video.

[@idmnstr]

@@TheClackShack Thank you for your fast response. I am disappointed that the video doesn't match the jig.

[@matt759537]

heey i am trying to find your jig file for the rotory tool on your etsy shop, very interested in buying!

[@TheClackShack]

It is in the interchangeable z1 kit

[@matt759537]

@@TheClackShack i bought the z1 set lastnight, but it doesnt include the rotary jig file, there is jig to align on machine to connect boards, large,medium,small and a squareing one. id be interested in buying the rotary one

[@davegirimonte9945]

Good video still on the fence about getting the rotary but not to change the subject but I would like to make a jig 14x14 to cut 16 3-in rounds if I stretch the existing jigs it changes The Notches do you have a file for that thanks appreciate it

[@TheClackShack]

Currently, I do not. Rather than stretching. Use the bolean feature to add the larger square and weld the shapes. Less chance of causing a fitting issue.

[@davegirimonte9945]

@@TheClackShack thanks buddy I'll give that a try

[@pflscw]

When are you going to make a lock jig for the Comgo Z1? I just bought one and I'd like to get one. Really great video.

[@TheClackShack]

I have one in my shop that I made a while back.

[@wolf9545]

@@TheClackShack Maybe I missed it but you only have the jig panels / main unit for the Comgrow but not the rotary. I have a Comgrow rotary and have bought your Comgrow jig kit. I guess I can draw out my own to fit the rotary but I like your idea on the height spacers too.

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

Nice Video! 🎉😂 Ordering some Cermark to try this different look. I have a huge Glass Candle round enclosure that has room for a Huge Nativity or something else Christmasy that this should work well on when used with my Comgrow Enlarged / Enhanced / Easy Spacing Adjustment Rotary modifications.

[@TheClackShack]

The spray works…

[@thomascrow5037]

I've got a xtool d1 10 w w/ r2 rotary. I can etch cheep dollar tree glasses pretty decently. I cannot get a good etch on a not so cheep wine glass. Ive been using cold galvanizing spray. Also, i get a good burn on stainless tumblers, but they fade pretty quickly. Buying a $100 spray is a tough sell. Is that my problem?

[@TheClackShack]

Some wine glasses are crystal and not glass. Crystal is much harder than traditional glass due to its mineral composition. I suspect that this is part of the issue. Also, the lead that is in crystal refracts light differently than glass. (just my opinion) The spray is expensive buy I can sell a few pieces and recover my expense.

[@MakerPop0514]

the jig is no longer available in your etsy shop. can you provide a link?

[@TheClackShack]

theclackshack.etsy.com/listing/1322102205/comgrow-z1-interchangeable-jig-kit-file

[@amoreyjones565]

Since the two tree use 3 stepper motors how would I know if it can power the z1 10w module?

[@TheClackShack]

I am not that well versed in the inner electronics of the machines. I would be afraid to give advice without knowing.

[@mattm9150]

I was wondering if you have the jig listed somewhere that you use to hold your Z1 rotary tool in place with the risers. I really like that idea and should have my rotary tool in the next few days.

[@TheClackShack]

I have the jig kit in my etsy store. I don’t think I added the rotary file yet

[@mattm9150]

@@TheClackShack Thank you. I like the design, can't wait to get it.

[@AwesomeFuture777]

I'd like to get that too my friend! Love your videos and I told comgrow they need to widen their rollers and they sent me a pic saying they can be adjusted. This is after I told them I have them all the way out.

[@2mkingston]

I've looked at your Etsy shop for an hour, and I can't locate the jig parts you designed for the Comgrow Z1 roller attachment. Are they available?

[@TheClackShack]

The Z1 kit is here, theclackshack.etsy.com/listing/1322102205/comgrow-z1-interchangeable-jig-kit-file The only thing you need for the rotary is the squaring jig.

[@stevenbrown4534]

I asked about a link to the rotary jig. The link you gave is not it and now I paid for a jig that is not what I want. Can you correct this please?

[@TheClackShack]

Yes, there are two files in the download section. The rotary holder is a part of the original file that is contained on the item listing. It is named "ComgrowZ1interchangeablejigkit.zip" and the particular panel is located under "PANELS" folder. I just downloaded it myself and confirmed. My system all works together and to use the setup in this video, you will need the file listed in the description.

[@MrChamz99]

Not sure if I missed it in the video or the comments section, but what was the spacing between laser and the work piece?

[@TheClackShack]

The laser is focused if that what you are talking about.

[@MrChamz99]

@The Clack Shack yes, I was just wondering did you use the recommended 7mm spacing between the work piece and the laser. Think I explained it incorrectly in my op.

[@TheClackShack]

@@MrChamz99 , I made my own focus tool that I use to set it. I just got it to the finest dot size possible on the surface.

[@MrChamz99]

@@TheClackShack ah gotcha. Thanks

[@amoreyjones565]

What does the green light on the z1 means?

[@TheClackShack]

I am not certain but I think it is the machine connectivity indicator. I can't recall for sure.

[@amoreyjones565]

Help!!how do i connect xtool ra2 to the comgow

[@TheClackShack]

You would need the proper cable first. Then just unplug the Y axis stepper and connect the wire to the cable going to the rotary.

[@amoreyjones565]

@@TheClackShack o i didnt get that connector with mine.

[@EtchinAaronslaserworkshop]

Hey was wondering i have the comgrow 20watt aka the Beast can i put that laser head on this frame wanna upgrade my frame

[@EtchinAaronslaserworkshop]

Wanna put the 20watt comgrow on the z1 frame can I do this

[@TheClackShack]

The 20 watt module upgrade was originally built for the z1. As long as you have the parts kit

[@EtchinAaronslaserworkshop]

I have the comgrow 20watt that you put on the olm3 frame

[@EtchinAaronslaserworkshop]

Will it work on the z1 frame

[@EtchinAaronslaserworkshop]

An parts kit?????

[@TheRoadRoamer]

Mostly good s bad I bet on the Comgrow Z1and accoutrements. I have just the same one bad part as you mentioned, the four-screw focus adjustment is a pain. Other than that I love my Z1 5W (which I acquired a 10W module for it also), with a Comgrow Enclosure, Comgrow Air Assist, Comgrow Rotary, Comgrow Honeycomb, $10 Amazon LightBurn Camera (I think the price has risen to $12 now) with a Custom 3D Printed Camera Mount that I designed in CAD and DIY Fume Extraction let’s me use my Z1 inside the house in a spare bedroom mostly undetected and only my left-door neighbor can smell the 🔥 burn when I’m engraving cause it gets blown out a window on his side of my house.. :-] That seemed Fair to me since he saws and hammers well past 11pm sometimes so I decided that was a fair return on his late night noise making. 😂😂😂

[@TheClackShack]

My neighbors can't smell anything..

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

Or just click the Mirror Output, if needed. That’s what I do successfully.

[@TheClackShack]

Sure, as long as it works

[@BlueSkyCreativesAL]

@@TheClackShack I do it regularly. Comgrow name facing REAR, connected to Left Y with Mirror Output slider enabled. Works. I've never had it not work. Or connect it to the right Y with the Comgrow name facing forward, Mirror Output NOT enabled also works but I find it harder to manage to plug into the the Right hand Y port which faces down and harder to see. But you can fiddle with it until you get it. The left one is easily visible to plug the Rotary into. Need to make a TAIL to make using the Right hand port easier and save wear and tear on both ports.

[@jimmorgan7765]

Are you on comgrows payroll? Seems like all you do lately is review a comgrow product. Thanks for all your previous videos they were really helpful.

[@TheClackShack]

No, they just keep sending cool things. I figure try them out and see what works. My knowledge of the machines was limited to one machine and I want to see what else is out there.

[@mynameisprivate158]

Wear your eye protection bud, especially with your enclosure opened up like that!

[@TheClackShack]

Always do, not sure why you thought I didn't but glad your concerned. Thanks for watching.

[@lencrainer8570]

Stuff the wine glass with paper to keep down reflection and ghost imaging. Rusty

[@TheClackShack]

Yea, usually I just don't put marking spray on the side. Not sure why I did it this tme....lol