Entrepreneurs Cutthroat Decisions Alienate & Frustrate the Dragons | Dragons' Den

While obtaining one of Banksy's famous art pieces may be something you'd want to treasure for years to come, the next entrepreneur sold his whole collection for his business venture. Next into The Den is Brian Smillie and Euan McCreath. Mr. Smillie revealed his plans to “eliminate” the app store completely and help business developers create their own apps without being beholden to Apple or Android.
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[@SmithySafc96]

Entrepreneur: "everytime we've pitched, we've had 100% success rate" Jenny: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career

[@GodOfPlague]

Lol

[@alankimachiwong6536]

Jenny’s always out

[@kingdomperspectivesmindset5595]

@@alankimachiwong6536 Bt she was right to be this time, and she read the signs quite well so didn't make an offer :o/...as usual :o)

[@jdrodrigues7]

He went in a meeting to negotiate and came out with a deal thus he still has a 100% success rate. Each "meeting" to pitch his business nets a deal.

[@kerrygallagher8508]

That's it. That's the kinda comment we crave

[@maryamkim1281]

He was so disrespectful. This the difference between confidence and arrogance.

[@JohnnyZenith]

Amazingly arrogant.

[@jrbs]

Euan's face says it all at 3:11

[@norman1741]

Yeah, i would never invest in his company or his app. He will always be remembered by his ignorant behaviour. Glad his company earnt only £580.000 in 2018, where is his £18mln prediction? Haha. Total tool.

[@Brett.D]

Short man syndrome...

[@al-farsi6018]

N J Wishing the worst of others and celebrating in their failures only exposes weakness.

[@joeybulford5266]

I didn’t like how they shut down Tej like that. Have some respect. I was rooting for Peter to pull out after that

[@AbhishekSanyalTGV]

The product was really really good with massive opportunities in the tech space. Peter didn't want to pull out. I am sure he would have pulled out if they were pitching for something else.

[@terrapinalive6192]

me too

[@mfoco1]

@@AbhishekSanyalTGV no deal is worth having this sort of character involved.

[@AbhishekSanyalTGV]

@@mfoco1 I understand. Peter was weirded out for a while there. That's why he said he felt a bit strange. He was trying to think whether to abandon them or go ahead with the offer. They put him in a spot after what they did to Tej

[@MartynMills]

They should have all pulled out, I've never seen so blatant racism in my life.

[@Argumemnon]

Well, that sucks for Tej. No reason to reject him after he gave them exactly what they wanted.

[@RealityCheck6T9]

Shocking disrespect

[@bilalsidik9007]

Racist individuals

[@helbentable]

Bilal Sidik oh please not that old chestnut 🙄👎🏼

[@zaids9394]

Tej got rich off daddy's business, he's hardly got experience in business development

[@mikevarga2058]

Jenny Penny please don’t trivialise the matter of race

[@palllasolol]

Sometimes automatic KZbin subtitles say "Pizza Jones" instead of Peter Jones. And I'm ok with it.

[@samkan1922]

Rox Azolan what’s your mums name?

[@WildManFrizzell]

Rox Azolan GOOD! now get back to work

[@samkan1922]

WildMan Frizzell thats is fantastic name sir

[@Crooks103]

You are a legend

[@spillers8615]

Poor old Ewan gets called urine

[@Domtronic]

Jesus they declined Tej for giving them what they wanted. Big oof.

[@abdulquddus667]

Dominic Commisso think tej should give him some free vitimans That chap needs it

[@nzdefrag]

Not really, they wanted Peter or Deborah. So Tej offered them almost what they wanted.

[@Abi-ec8xm]

I smell racism

[@maikbaumann1250]

i thought i missunderstand that, because my english isnt the best - i have rewind 3 times *and* look at the comment section. so yes *big oof*

[@Domtronic]

@@maikbaumann1250 Congrats on your English. It looks great to me. :)

[@drexlspivey5828]

I can't believe he turned down Tej's offer, insane

[@Swnsasy]

lewis morrison They knew Edgar they where doing.. The company is massive and worth MILLIONS!!

[@m.a.r1982]

@Shaun Co different company

[@lXlinfinitylXl]

Shaun Co different company, they filed for bankruptcy few months back

[@130lukas]

@@lXlinfinitylXl can we get sources on this? I did some googling and found no information either way unless I"m looking in the wrong places.

[@cirrus393]

Shaun Co they have definitely not increased their worth to £90 million in just a year...

[@Roachehh]

Tej looked genuinely insulted. They did him real dirty. If Peter and Deb didn't see immense potential in the company they would have pulled out for that reason alone.

[@Shivian124]

Yes they declined his offer in a pretty unprofessional manner.

[@vikvegas8593]

@@Shivian124 And what about all the times the Dragon's have declined people in an unprofessional manner?

[@goldenghost2001]

@vikvegas8593 oh whataboutism. People like you always find a way don't ya?

[@roxanne4820]

@@vikvegas8593 The entrepreneurs aren't in a position to be rude to the dragons since they're literally asking for their money and expertise to help their business

[@mfoco1]

He made an offer, which was accepted on the exact terms he stated, and then broke the verbal contract. At that point, it does not matter how good the deal looks, Peter and Deborah should have immediately pulled out. If he'll behave that way on national TV, there's no telling what he'll do behind closed doors.

[@CapybaraHats]

The palpable shift in the attitude of the room as soon as he said "I'm about to win a sportsman's bet". How daft can you be? Even if you did make a private bet for fun with your friends or whatever, what could possibly come over you to think it was appropriate to reveal and brag about while pitching to the dragons?

[@tosspot1305]

Clearly very arrogant...but arrogance can go a long way in business

[@rohilthomson]

@@tosspot1305 arrogance will only lead to your downfall. It inspires ignorance and bad rep. What you want is confidence.

[@madamefeast4824]

@@tosspot1305 Confidence. Arrogance is the worst thing for business. Notice how all the arrogant people always shoot themselves in the foot and don't get a deal? Confidence is not the same as arrogance. Nobody wants arrogance

[@cybersechs1368]

@@tosspot1305 Arrogance isn't bad. The correct term you're thinking of his 'hubris'.

[@oxymoron02]

@@cybersechs1368 Arrogance and hubris are largely the same thing and both bad. I can't believe some people still struggle with such simple things.

[@sinchasin3611]

He alienated Tej. That was horrible.

[@maryamkim1281]

@fyoukim12 the guy is bit weird looking himself.

[@stupidtreehugger]

14:30 "How to deal with this now". No dude, you effed up. You shat on Tej's offer. Go forth and don't multiply.

[@AshPPPPPPPP]

Maryam Kim will laugh at your broke ass

[@ariyoakinlosotu6781]

that's mean and you sound racist.

[@blazeron12]

It was also just dumb. To say you want deborah and Peter you are giving them leverage over you. Immediately after he asks them to move on equity, why would they though? you just told them you want them!

[@stephenbusby424]

The disrespect shown to Tej made me cringe. They negotiated with him, he gave them the deal they wanted and they threw it back in his face. I understand they wanted Peter but acting that way towards Tej came across as disrespectful.

[@jeffgachihi8225]

What madness leads you to bet you'll get offers from ALL FIVE Dragons when Jenny's around...

[@szahmad2416]

He got four offers. Aim for the stars, you might reach the moon.

[@nezarelmasleh4140]

that shows poor decision making for that reason i m out

[@schwantzrossi1266]

Yeh but Jenny is so fit... seriously.

[@mxrella]

Wdym fit with the double chin 😭​@@schwantzrossi1266

[@amercer89]

Jenny: you're asking me for money investor: yes Jenny: I'm out

[@A15Beats]

Jenny is the investor

[@cosmicdarkmatter1128]

@@A15Beats But she's usually out before ever getting the chance to be the "investor"...lol

[@Swnsasy]

Alastair Mercer ROFLOL good one

[@user-lq6tj9dc5t]

hahahahhahahaha

[@DreadPyke]

@RJ k you must be fun at parties.

[@jeffgachihi8225]

12:41 he sent Tej back to his vitamins before dismissing Touker to his bed.

[@takfak6212]

:D

Looooool

[@kendalson7817]

Haha. Take your supplements Tej.

[@milannoelle1576]

*dismissing Touker to his office space in London

[@norman1741]

That was nothing funny. In fact, i wouldnt want to invest any penny in this guy's company or his app.

[@Nautilus1972]

Peter on every offer: "I'll give you all the money, but I want 4 times what you're offering"

[@dickvandraevan1675]

He's the best dragon so he gets to do that

[@longq5198]

I wish he had bumped up the percentage for them being so disrespectful.

[@dxncerr1233]

@@dickvandraevan1675to be fair if I had a business, I’d want nobody else other than Peter in on it

[@samsschool3639]

@@dxncerr1233 Even if it was Vitamins, or baby products?

[@mxrella]

Fr tho like 'I have more potential so I'm offering all thr money for 25% of yr business (10 times more than u asked for)

[@lucascolantoni8012]

These guys are probably the worst entrepreneurs I’ve seen as far as negotiating. I have never seen anyone show their cards AND have ignorant levels of stubbornness wrapped up in an intolerable sandwich

[@TheLifeOfDan1]

Jesus christ! How can he just do Tej dirty like that. He’s one of my fave dragons.

[@HHHKingofKings58]

"Jenny, if you make an offer then I'll win a bet." "Every other dragon has made an offer so why wouldn't I? I'm out."

[@iancampbell9297]

The way he spoke too Tej was out of order..

[@jimbean1371]

No it wasn’t... what he did was actually very clever and ballsy, he knew he didn’t come in to get Tej on board and he wasn’t the type of dragon he was looking for so for him to straight up decline the offer is actually very respectable not wanting to waste his or Tej’s time. It also put pressure on the other dragon’s as he showed he was going to be ruthless with his own decision making and was prepared to walk away in a second if the deal didn’t suit him. Shrewd business.

[@SirLink_]

@@jimbean1371 no, he was just a dick

[@khansahib7110]

@@jimbean1371 so why did he say he would do the deal for 5% knowing peter wouldnt budge?!

[@jimbean1371]

SirLink you don’t understand business psychology. But that’s fine not everyone does.

[@SirLink_]

@@jimbean1371 and you do? lmao give me a break

[@liviumarginean1474]

You know what? None of them should have invested, based on how they treated Tej and Touker. The other 2 should have immediately said: I'm out!

[@Don-Carillo]

You don't get as rich as them by having morals

[@RealityCheck6T9]

@@Don-Carillo you're both right. If I was in their position, I would have demanded an apology for the other Dragons.

[@gaysy1st]

I agree. When Peter said "On the basis of the way you've handled this" ... I expected him to say he was out. Instead he says "I'm feeling a little bit strange about it". After the guy said if anyone could offer £125,000 for 5%, he'd do the deal, Tej offers that & gets rejected. They should have taught him a lesson.

[@Welshy]

@@gaysy1st why? none of them are there to stand on some moral highground, they're all there to make themselves more money in businesses, if you think this is bad then i hate to tell you its pretty standard

[@SS-qp2ex]

Yes but the other 2 were the soulless ones, so what do u expect

[@captainhindsight8779]

Jenny: you’re going to lose your bet, and do you know why? Because you failed to consider the basic principle of the dragons den... I never invest, and I’m out 👋

[@a_bb_a6356]

If this isn’t the gospel truth

[@jimsuniverse4954]

Amen 😆 everybody knows Jens dead broke 😆

[@closetome]

hahahaha

[@oliver6969]

i actually like that she's on the show, if she ever does invest it's a real shock and it's funny af counting the times she doesn't invest

[@spicehaven209]

Nailed it

[@jeffgachihi8225]

Touker will crankily get up in the morning for 4% .

[@kurusmusic]

How's he gonna be called Brian Smiley and not even smile

[@thomasmees3953]

*palpatine voice* it’s ironic

[@HomebaseLHR]

He’s Scottish. They’re never smiling.

[@anubusx]

Maybe it can be the company's logo.

[@Tom135]

he did though

[@dunkindoughnut167]

The other guy was called McGrith and he didn't even McGrith himself off.

[@darkerarts]

Wish they had all turned them down after that ending

[@Anna.T.]

Personally I would have gone with Taj on this one - even after being rejected he still wanted to work with these guys and offered them exactly what they wanted. He clearly had his heart set on these guys.

[@eleanorcooke7136]

Yeah, they told him the offer that they would accept, then Tej made it and they turned him down. What does that say to the other dragons? That even if they give the offer and lower what they are asking for then these guys won't really appreciate the sacrifice and investment.

[@celestinetoussaint6350]

@@eleanorcooke7136 that was so...Im at a loss for words when it comes to these entrepreneurs.

[@llow1170]

Imagine unironically mentioning your "Banksy art collection".

[@lizclegg7556]

He clearly knows nothing about Art if he's actually collecting Banksy.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

Banksy would have a fit if he found out some tosser sold a bunch of his art to start some white collar tech company that uses words like "disrupt" It's like the opposite of what Banksy stands for

[@alexandergunn8693]

Touker: "I don't get out of bed for 4%, but if you make it 10% I'll give you some office space in London"

[@stevencoffone288]

“We actually don’t need the money.” Jenny: You’ve come to the right place.

[@StorytellerDan]

Lol - Jenny asks what theyre doing in the Den. Every viewer wants to ask her the same question.

[@AJ-st5tj]

Tej is very underrated , he is the real dragon here

[@WobblesandBean]

What a pillock. Had several Dragons fighting to get their business, and they let their ego nearly ruin it all went wound up giving away nearly double the equity they were originally offered.

[@darleschickens7106]

I feel bad for Tej... he clearly really loved it and wanted to be involved from the get-go

[@g9isaac]

Very clever negotiating tactic at the end from Deborah and Peter even if it wasn't intentional, they made the entrepreneur's feel bad about rejecting the other two Dragons so they felt they had no choice but to accept the terms of the offer they gave them.

[@rubenlier8013]

The deal never went through tho

[@Bookofwords]

sending apps...bypassing stores...sounds to me like an easy target for hackers

[@nickyjohnson4186]

It’s no different to saving a web page to your home screen; it works in the same way.

[@zammo1036]

Nicky Johnson it’s very different.

[@JaySiggz]

@@syc8066 Im sorry but you're wrong. Web technology doesn't have access to mobile hardware in the same way native web app does. This is basic web development knowledge 101

[@JaySiggz]

@@syc8066 So actually, it is quite insecure to be able to download native apps onto your phone which have not been approved in any way.

[@TehBadGamerz12]

@@JaySiggz Because they aren't formulated as a native web app, it is literally just saving a template mobile friendly website, it would not work without internet connection, its basically a fancy link. basic computer knowledge 101

[@misshaya5701]

“And which dragon would you like” “Er ideally all 5 of yous” *All make an offer except Jenny “Tej we decline your offer” “Touker we decline your offer” *looking straight at Deborah and Peter 🙄🤡 I felt bad for Tej. Very badly handled by the entrepreneur.

[@WobblesandBean]

Right?? They could have had 4 dragons, which would have been a huge gain for them! But no, they rudely and arrogantly spat right in their faces.

[@lefoolish1989]

I know right it was trump card, if the card could flip the table and shoot the other players they gave a bad play and lost big

[@spacecowboy6667]

Jenny: Lists all the reasons she thinks it's a good idea and why it'll succeed. Also Jenny: And on that basis, I'm out.

[@VodkaHellstorm]

I hate when one of the Dragons will have a minor moral issue with a product and go off on one, yet without fail they'll all sit there with straight faces on tech pitches and say "well how can we take advantage of the users' data?"

[@stavrosgiannaros7041]

im close to winning a sportsmans bet! Tuka: All 5 Dragons? (Tuka: Clearly you dont know Jenny)

[@LadyHeathen82]

Ooopsy poopsy *Touker

[@mrm5183]

Imagine being Tej?😩 offering what they wanted only for the pitcher to say “you’re out” and go with Peter who wanted 3x the amount of equity😩

[@scottsmith9192]

I secretly hoped they would all deny them, Tej don’t deserve that, he turned smug pretty quick. I’m all for not accepting and standing up for yourself, but the rudeness.

[@formulafanatic5813]

9:58 the reason you’re here.

[@rachaellouise2666]

Hahahaha

[@a_bb_a6356]

Jenny?

[@htsandw4496]

Looool

[@lilsunflower9655]

LMFAO!!

[@jenapolvino5974]

I’m just here for the Jenny jokes.

[@lifegoals9528]

OK Grandad, that's so last year.

[@elitelevi2948]

Gregory's Goals sorry ‘gregory’

[@BradT44]

you play fortnite calm down

[@elitelevi2948]

Not Comfy if the only thing you can insult me on is that i like a video game, you must feel really proud of yourself lmao

[@markperryman1797]

The Jenny comments aren't even funny....are they?, Seriously, They've all been the same.....

[@stp22]

Jenny has created a new app called "I'm out" available now for Android and iOS

[@thedunyadoneya2628]

So it's out now?

[@abdulquddus667]

It’s always been out 😂😂😂😂

[@LetPlay4You]

Its a cool app and for that reason im out

[@szahmad2416]

She has developed copywrites on the word "out" anywhere it's being used.

[@pdan4]

iMout

[@expertexcavatinginc]

"I invested $150,000 in the business" Seconds later: "I sold my two houses and my Banksy art collection" 🙄 I've never heard of someone owning a Banksy collection and then being broke suddenly

[@user-ci3xc5bz5h]

OK, so this whole time I've thought that the Jenny jokes were a little too much. After this episode, I can confirm that they stand firmly and I will stand by them. Wow. What a ridiculous thing she has done. Really validated every Jenny joke.

[@msstarlight4770]

I totally agree, I thought the exact same thing until I saw this episode!

[@al5612]

I agree in majority of cases, but this one shouldn't be used as an example. She's competing with 4 other dragons who by themselves are way more competitive, let alone the offers they presented. She just was not going to win a deal on this episode, and rather than devalue her name by competing, she decided to save face (which is very valuable for a brand,) and declare herself out.

[@RealityCheck6T9]

@@al5612 Accrington Stanley probably won't beat Liverpool. Should they just stop playing?

[@Jenny-uz1un]

I would love to reply to this comment, but i'm out

[@intergalactic92]

The guy basically crowed about winning a bet before letting her speak. I'd opt out myself just to make him lose and teach him a lesson. Frankly a part of me is disappointed he reached an agreement at all in the end. He was a bit of an arse.

[@rangers2721]

Entrepreneur: Someone's interested in investing Jenny: Nervous laugh

[@sirplantain]

I wonder if they regret alienating the other dragons? Given the state of the company now, I suspect that they probably are!

[@owenb8636]

Peter always asks for way higher equity and gets it so many times

[@matthewbell4273]

Tej took that like a gentleman.

[@szahmad2416]

This wasn’t a business negotiation so much as a hostage crisis.

[@darkaquatus]

Jenny: "This business fits me perfectly, you guys seem highly investible, your numbers look very promising and I see some real longevity in it. And for those reasons I'm out."

[@nazzawirockful]

I feel so bad for Taj ;(

[@davidmellish3295]

Yeah let's feel bad for the man who's worth £300 million, poor Taj didn't get to invest

[@davidmellish3295]

@Tom Goldenheart I didn't say anything about being rude,I just said I don't feel sorry for him

[@nazzawirockful]

David Mellish I don’t care if he is worth 300m but man being rejected like that even after he accepted his terms is painful man

[@AH-zx8jt]

*Tej

[@rockroyaltymc]

Tej is always nice and a class act, so I also felt bad for him.

[@lauralishes1]

I can't bear even listening to Jenny asking questions, it's never questions about investing it's always questions to wriggle out of investing. Or why it's a bad idea.

[@danfelbm]

App stores exist for a reason... this has huge liability problems. And the technology isn’t really disruptive: web to app has been there for years, and there are many reputable companies doing it. The interesting part was the integration with Wix. That’s very clever...

[@rendogsbiggestfan]

These aren't apps, they're literally just websites that look like apps. Disappointing to say the least.

[@JaySiggz]

Most apps are being built this way today. Research cordova.

[@rendogsbiggestfan]

@@JaySiggz only around 7 percent of apps on the app store use this. It's quite limiting compared to the norm.

[@JaySiggz]

@@rendogsbiggestfan Sure but I said most apps are built this way. I'm not talking about what already exists. There are millions of apps on app stores, many built years ago. This technology is new so it would be ridiculous to think that most apps use it. You don't even need to research to disprove that. The technology is incredibly limiting but most apps do not require the benefits of native hardware. Most apps don't do heavy duty computation on the client side, rather, most operations are done via some sort of rest API and servers do the heavy lifting. It is easier to hire people to build apps this way as there are plenty of full web stack devs and it can be built once for all platforms. Businesses want to minimize costs so they will gladly take an insignificant performance cost.

[@MrLifeKills]

@@JaySiggz yeah, but if you're already building a responsive website then it's pretty trivial to package it as an app. I fall to see what problem this solves.

[@MrBlitzpunk]

People alway joke about how Jenny never made an offer. But i actually feel bad that Tej rarely got his offer accepted, despite it being very competitive

[@BaileyBaratheon]

Entrepreneur: Hello there, I'm looking to sell 25% of my business Jenny: *inquisitive and intrigued look* Entrepreneur: For £1 Jenny: I'm out

[@acesigma06]

Mason Johnson I will give the full amount ...but I want 101% of the company, I did money boxes, did I say,

[@maddiem-j9538]

Jenny- ‘I personally don’t get excited about it’ Me- you don’t get excited about anything ffs

[@rayenbow3281]

She does ... The EXIT sign.

[@davidmg1925]

I think that Matter may have been discuused here....

[@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels]

Jenny worked for a big bank that ended up in government hands and walked away with a big pay off. Entrepreneur she ain't.

[@chukkachick1879]

@Mad's 01270 😅😅😑

[@porkwoofles3909]

This show is actually amazing.

[@233kosta]

Peter's look when the 2nd guy started talking: "Oh for fuck's sake, it's like having to listen to Duncan all over again..."

[@SolanaGalaxy]

Jenny: "Why wouldn't i make an offer" and for that reason i'm out.

[@thegodcalzs]

Jenny: “youve ticked all the boxes, you’re clearly on the right path, so why wouldn’t I make an offer? And for that reason, I’m out.”

[@SRC267]

The Dragon Slayers.

[@raalaa121]

Definitely sense a bit of racism. Tej offered the clown exactly what he wanted. Yet he doesn't want Tej or Touker.

[@NoNo-uy2bq]

It did seem like such a bizarre decision

[@ron7831]

Them: "We're a company that builds apps that go straight to the home screen bypassing the app store" Peter: "I have no idea of tech, but have you ever heard of 'Big Data', that seems to be the next big thing despite having nothing to do with your business whatsoever" Them: "We have no idea of Big Data either, but sure throw it into the package" Me: "I'm an AI specialist, therefore, I'm Jenny"

[@OtDawn]

Haha..

[@MatecaCorp]

Even if I hadn’t said I was out beforehand, the moment he said the thing about the “sportsman’s bet” I would’ve jumped ship. I’m not going to give money to someone who makes bets about my money, especially if they are going to brag about it.

[@creechhunt5922]

The way he hugged Peter honestly reminded me of Dopey hugging Snow White. I love how the cameraman zoomed out just to show the difference in size...

[@alanphysio]

Can’t be that clever- they bet they would get 5 offers when Jenny was around 🤣🤣

[@sirplantain]

One year has passed since I last watched this video. My opinion of Brian hasn't changed, I still think he's an arrogant man. How anyone can work with him, I don't know. I would hate to have to deal with him, in any capacity.

[@karmajarrule]

12:47 Tej plotting their murders

[@Uouttooo]

By sending them free vitamins laced with polonium?

[@user-hl6ub4gf9u]

Man I really hoped Deborah and Peter would pull out after how they treated Touker and Tej. They didn’t deserve the investment. Arrogant not confident

[@harrybanda]

Installing apks from unknown sources? No thanks.

[@waterdudedev]

Nothing scary about that inherently.

[@sierrahhofzon3878]

Nothing scary. Only keyloggers, Trojans and viruses.

[@lainwired3946]

It's not an APK, it's basically a bookmark to a website on your home screen. Their platform looks like an app and they're easy to build, but it's just a fancy website wrapper.

[@crapitoutjim]

Harry Banda wtf is a apks?

[@lainwired3946]

@@crapitoutjim it's an android app file. Sort of like an exe on windows (more like an msi installer but let's make this easy)

[@TheAbuFulaan]

I can’t believe Peter accepted that deal, the man has no back bone

[@alan6839]

He's a businessman. He's not going to risk losing out on a potentially successfully investment just because Deborah's feelings got hurt. lol

[@TheAbuFulaan]

Alan I completely understand why he accepted that deal. I acknowledge that this approach is the school of thought that many people adopt, that “if it makes money, I’m involved no matter what” mentality. However that doesn’t negate the fact that this school of thought has an effect on ones standing on morality, honour and principles, Peter is at the stage where no matter what business venture he involves himself in, it’s not going to make him afford something which he can’t afford already, which is why many other successful entrepreneurs such as Deborah adopt the other school of thought, where she wouldn’t get involved because the sugar levels in your product were just a little too high. It wasn’t Deborah I was referring to, I was referring to the fact that the man clearly said that he’s happy to accept a deal of 5% at 125,000 if someone offered it to him. When Tej followed up on this and accepted the offer, he abruptly, rudely and arrogantly declined, he could have just waited out for the others to make the same offer. On top of that, when Jenny asked him if he’s here for a particular dragon, he mentioned he wanted offers from all of them, which was a lie, because when offers from Tej and Touker came, he declined there offers, he declined touker before touker even said anything. All these factors would put off someone who holds these principles and morals a lot more dear to their heart than money. If your colleague was insulted on national television but you still go into business with the one who insulted him, then I’m sorry, you have no backbone.

[@TheAbuFulaan]

Pol Fartin I had to google what that meant. Ironic coming from a man who’s called fartin. In all honesty, if you believe that principles and characteristics such as dignity, integrity, honour, honesty and morals are of little value to you, then that says a lot about you as an individual

[@TheAbuFulaan]

Pol Fartin it’s called giving someone a taste of their own medicine. Defending yourself doesn’t negate any of those qualities. It’s quite ironic and paradoxical that the one who began with the insults, is upset and questioning someone who insulted him back, that’s like slapping someone and then wondering why they slapped you back. Get your priorities right my friend, you’re clearly lost.

[@proliferatingprofligate7032]

@@TheAbuFulaan I wouldn't consider them colleagues. They're literally competing with each other for investment opportunities.

[@Chris_34]

13:04 Touker's face tho🤣

[@escfxp]

Glorified web pages is essentially what this business is. Not actually apps and are very limited in what they can do. Apple and Google will never relinquish control of Apps for a number of reasons.

[@ChimaChindaDev]

Poor Tej - he almost cried. 11:58

[@falgunpatil2372]

Peter is talking about "big data" as "hidden treasure" and they should have gone on excursion to locate that. Now I understand why they say half knowledge is very dangerous 😄😄😄

[@TheLadylexy]

After seeing what he just did to Tej, I would not want to go into business with someone like that. Next time it could be me he's shafting.

[@jadethornton7975]

They knew what they wanted (take no prisoners style). its not personal its just business. i personally couldn't be like that. Taj knows how to handle rejection. If you listen to some of his non dragon interviews he also knows how to handle success without it all going to his head. he's incredibly smart and unusually gentle in his thoughts.

[@seymorebutts2478]

Jesus that was tense. Mon the Scots!!!

[@giselletdc1871]

Poor Tej! He is a humble guy!

[@davidmg1925]

This was posted a about 3/4 weeks ago ..... keep up dragons den

[@ButterflySimmer]

No wonder i thought saw this video before.

[@Deequation]

Sounds safe.. just download this app from a link, around all kind of security checks that the android/ios stores does.Also sounds like.. a single android or ios update from being destroyed.

[@willpaul9384]

Jenny: I can see where this pitch is going and for the sake of not being rejected, I'm out.

[@drewb1263]

Personally I would love to work with Tej or Touker

[@Showmetheevidence-]

I’m in a tech business, and based on the edited version we see on these clips.... there ain’t no way in hell I’d invest in these 2 / this business. Particularly after he treated Tej and Touker like that. Perhaps the dragons had other info we weren’t shown. Would love to know what happened to these guys!?

[@reecetaylor1415]

Touker:”are all 5 dragons gonna make an offer” Me:”no”

[@Jamie_Winsh]

Never alienate dragons cos that lowers your chance of investment. He's one of those entrepreneurs who thinks he can be in control. Didn't know what was gonna happen

[@theplaymakerno1]

They should not have rejected Tej. I have heard he is a very good person to work with.

[@ptolemyglenn79]

Who you hear that from? Looking at you pretending you have insider tea

[@EstoniaParody]

2:16 Entreprenaurs: somebody is interested in investing Jenny: (yeah, not me)

[@sire5582]

He shot himself in the foot when he said he is about to win a bet. Immediately gave Jenny a reason to be out. She comes across as that kind of spiteful person to be honest. The only offers Jenny seems to ever make are to good looking men or just completely bizzar business ideas that literally have zero meaning.

[@thebestofenergy]

Shot himself in the foot by having Jenny go out? You mean saved time.

[@theodddish1846]

Jenny doesn't need a reason to be out

[@jimmyneutron129]

Look After My Bills was not a completely bizzar business idea I think

[@andrewjames3579]

Agreed

[@andrewjames3579]

@@thebestofenergy lmao

[@skymanross]

The Dragons are professional and think with their wallet. I doubt Tej was emotional at all about this he even clapped for them when they got Peter.

[@IAmQube]

I like how, in dragon’s den, they actually encourage the entrepreneur to think it over a moment and “talk to the wall”. In Shark Tank, they basically don’t give you the chance to think anymore. They’d often threaten to go “out” if you do take a moment or when you say you want to hear the other offers, that kind of pressure is just so manipulative in my opinion, but oh well. That’s how they do business and that’s why they’re there.

[@456ironmaiden]

I wholeheartedly agree

[@raalaa121]

Not only that it's like a Michael bay film just so much noise on shark tank.

[@raptorlewis]

Jenny shafted this man's bet because she can't force herself to invest smdh

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

Beezer was a comic when I was a kid. Along with the Beano, Dandy and Whizzer & Chips.

[@pezn2077]

The Numskulls. Colonel Blink.

[@DMG118]

Peter: I'll offer you all of the money, for 10 percent; but I also want 10 percent of your back garden

[@shutupntakemymoni]

The way he acted shows how massive his ego is. Yes they came for 2 dragons, but that was just unneccessary and upright disrespectful.

[@vikvegas8593]

And what about all the times the dragon's disrespect people?

[@BenjaminGoose]

The dragons are not the topic, keep up.@@vikvegas8593

[@MrWillyMrBrightside]

The investment ended up not going ahead. Which is a shame really, half the time you watch a really tense negotiation, think they got the deal but after the show ends you find out it was all for nothing. They probably realised they couldn't dilute their other shareholders to give Peter his 15%. The company still exists though and they seem to be doing well

[@1madaboutguitar]

That guy has the mindset of an obsessive gambler. At first he got ahead. But... he not only walked away with with the WORST deal on the table, he came away thinking it was a "win", when it was the only option he had left...

[@MrSuchasoorma]

Love how tej gets more involved