Ep. 386 | This Is NOT Minimalism

The Minimalists talk about what minimalism has to do with normal, everyday subjects like friendship, pets, history, meteorology, and entertainment. Watch all 2 hours of episode 386 on The Minimalists Private Podcast: / theminimalists
Discussed in this episode:
00:00 Introduction
01:23 How can minimalism apply to most everyday topics?
05:11 Why do most people believe minimalism only applies to physical items?
08:20 What is epistemology?
16:24 How do we help loved ones move on from fruitless pursuits?
22:12 What is the difference between helping and supporting?
24:59 Why do you have an issue with those that can afford expensive things?
31:30 What does tire rubber have to do with minimalism?
33:00 How is brainstorming related to minimalism?
33:46 How do we get comfortable with bad ideas?
34:41 Listener comments and minimalism tips.
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[@TheMinimalistsPodcast]

Can you think of one thing that has NOTHING to do with minimalism?

[@ShroomFactory]

advertising for Patreon ;)

[@thepinayminimalist]

Greed, trash…

[@fishfishz06]

😆

[@retha6504]

What about the "Big Black Hole" named Bermuda Triangle for a subject ?

[@ArleneAdkinsZell]

Good question. I could turn that around and say that minimalism applies to everything.

[@carsonkendrick]

TK is strikingly intelligent. He has great insights and I love to hear him talk. Wonderful addition to the podcast.

[@samipan3410]

These guys are doing our planet a service by helping us get rid of consumerist mindset.

[@perrycoffey5410]

Exactly

[@HananBenNafa]

T.K. is the STAR of this episode, thank you, love you all.

[@emmamcmeeken7734]

When we teachers leave the profession... There's a sense of abandonment. We are taught that teaching is a calling, we are to build relationships with the kids as if they are our own, we spend hours wondering how to meet their needs. You want to help a teacher leave? Allow them the time to process the idea that they have not let the children down by leaving. Help them to minimise the guilt.

[@richardgarrett9821]

In our culture, teachers are leaving the profession because the fundamental ethics around what a school is there for is no longer correct. Here we have an independent body that rates the effectiveness of a school. You can go from a top tier school to one threatened with closure if a clerical, administrative task is not undertaken (eg an incorrect date stamp on a file). This doesn’t help us create excellence amongst our learners. Separately to that, we often take a student that’s exceptional at something, for example writing, like they’re clearly phenomenal at it. It is their gift. Instead of further nurturing that, the learner is punished for being a D grade student for Chemistry. The world needs more exceptional writers and waaaay fewer people who are terrible and disinterested at Chemistry. Our schools continue to work towards creating generic jack of all trades type learners, obedient workers that know what to think and not how to think. No wonder people don’t want to be teachers anymore.

[@aaron___6014]

This is the case for anyone leaving anything they've done for a long time.

[@Jennifer-nz2ss]

Congratulations you got out of it alive and not crazy!

[@SFoureman]

The topic of Egyptians and the Pyramids just had me rolling!!! ROLLING!!! Has there ever been a more sad microscope to the attachment of possessions as the Egyptians---who didn't just bury their "stuff" when they died. Those tombs included everything they thought they needed to drag with them in the percieved after-life.😳😵‍💫🤯

[@robinr5337]

But they didn't guilt their kids into taking all their stuff after they died!

[@quinncasey120]

TK has some outstanding answers, what an insightful host

[@ilikehatz]

Love how at 8:00 Josh says he's not "really sure and so we'll have a conversation about that". He's referring to a specific topic, but what I appreciate is the way he models how to straightforwardly communicate that he needs more info to understand something before he can form his opinion about it.

[@thebipolargirl101]

I binge watch minimalism and decluttering on KZbin 😱😳 that's probably why I'm not really reaching my minimalist goals that hit home. I love these podcasts cos I can listen while I do.

[@kaceykelly7222]

"Consumeristic Glutton" - what a perfect description for our times.

[@danielleseeholzer3064]

Love TK’s wife solution. My husband has started to support a job change by talking me through each reason I want to leave. One issue daily. It really makes me feel less overwhelmed and gives me a feeling of control.

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

Identity clutter. Yarn is also appreciated at senior centers and nursing homes for people who know how to crochet or knit, just can't get out to get the supplies they need - hope that helps.

[@collaborativelearning1]

interesting insight, didn't know that.

[@Riri-ho7pm]

Aw, this reminds me of my sister. She had a hoarding problem with stuff like there are so may things she ordered online that she hasn't even open weeks/months since they were delivered to our home. We have close to 15 mega box storage full of stuff that she hasn't open or used in years but is struggling to let go. That behavior also bleeds into hoarding pets. She kept adopting dogs even though our home is really small. Dogs are lovely and we have come to love those furbabies but we were definitely overwhelmed with having to take care of 7 dogs and I personally had to spend a lot of money to get them spayed and nuetered because our male dogs kept fighting when it's mating season and we also don't want to breed more puppies and have our female dogs pregnant every other 6 months.

[@lindaalaureano]

I'm sorry for your situation . Sounds like you're trapped. I hope you get a life.

[@mhmm07]

These guys deserve a raise, tap that like button.

[@collaborativelearning1]

yeah, like it!

[@DavidDavisDH]

TK is so smart, you guys made a good choice on him being on here!

[@cameronparham5067]

I love TK! Your in-depth well thought out and educated comments are so worthwhile.

[@retha6504]

❤

[@trishaleroux7006]

uhm, I heard somewhere, a long long time ago, that men (who think differently to women) tend to want to "solve" the problem, whereas the women in their lives (i.e. the teacher, in this case) might just want her husband to listen to her and be a sounding-board for her as she contemplates her decisions. Thanks TK for the advice given to her husband .. hope he gets the message

[@summertakacs-michaelsonch8842]

I think this is valid. Also, I can imagine how overwhelmed with life the Teacher is right now, about to give birth! She is living in two worlds! Her whole mind, body and soul are going through an experience. Pregnancy and birth are a job in itself. Perhaps, the Husband is overly anxious at how their lives are changing and worried about the future? I can imagine the Teacher is massively overwhelmed at this time, and her priority is birthing their baby.

[@laurabotts4064]

I absolutely love your podcast and look forward to every new one that you produce. As always you bring forth every angle of minimalism in our lives today. Your topics and opinions are all relatable no matter your life style. I always learn from your podcast but I think even more importantly you give me and I assume all your followers ideas to ponder and decide for ourselves what we believe and what we're going to do ongoing.

[@iloveyellow7214]

I looove that you guys are available when I Thought "I didnt need to know this" but turns out I needed to know this after all for context, I listen to your podcast when Im doing some tidying up or cooking. And then I apply what I learn after I finished the task or chore. And one thing I have to say is that you guys have changed my outlook in life. Enriched it is the better term. I constantly am "yapping" about your teachings to everyone who wants to listen. And after every conversation without fail? They always ask me: “how do you know all these? Can you read minds?” 🤣 Also never imagined TK to be this cute 😘 he looks so huggable Sending you guys hugs from" Drenched in the summer heat Manila" 🙋🏻‍♀

[@jainthorne4136]

The teacher question seems to be missing the point. His wife is about to give birth to their first child. That is a huge change and so most of her attention is directed there. After the child is born and things settle, he may find that she is more ready to move forward with the next big change.

[@summertakacs-michaelsonch8842]

Spot on!!!

[@retha6504]

"... Minimalism is the antidote... " ~ I like that ! 🤔

[@arizonashopper5095]

OK I REALLY need the insight that TK offered (after saying that he didn't want to get into the weeds about pyramids) in the form of a video short, bc I need to send that to a LOT of people!

[@sandradow1783]

My goodness, you two are talking way over my head. This is my first time finding you, I'm glad I did. Learning good stuff. 👍 TK sounds luke a professor 🤔 😊

[@A222Z]

There is a whole group of us that find it easier to stay at a job we don't like, then go to an interview & meet all these new people, new expectations, etc. I think we are the 1/3 stabilizing factor for a company, regardlessof low pay. .. I find that i have had to focus on my goals, using my job as the tool to get there, until i was ready to move on to something better. I would eventually come to love my jobs, even though the pay was so little. Usually, what happens is something incredibly better shows up to make that move to leave, or 'urgency' makes that decision.

[@sarahmc8309]

It also means aswell that sometimes people never jump or upskill becauee they have childhood trauma and affects how we do things in life and be an under earner .just something to plounder !

[@annoravetz5908]

Thanks for mentioning James Altucher. I'm a great fan of his from way back.

[@annoravetz5908]

He talked about leaving everything behind, just living in airbnbs, staying undetectable, and showed that you can be energetic and productive without the tangible trappings weighing you down.

[@mariacherrington61920]

Theres a line in a Van Halen song." The more you get the more you want" this can be true for some ppl. To me whats enough varies from person to person. Im on disability n dont have need for very dressy clothing ( other than something simple but nice for church" someone like a member of the English Royal Family, their lifestyle requires them to have lots of fancy clothing n jewelry. I say tailor minimalism to your personal lifestyle 😊

[@fishfishz06]

WOW,this episode amaze me !! thank you all. 🥰

[@WisconsinWanderer]

Thank you for this information very helpful 😊

[@hue8hue8]

As Confucius said "be like water". Such a powerful phase. We would live a joyful and peaceful life. If we practice Confuciusim - that's Minimalism

[@karenhaire5451]

Also, this woman is in the retirement system in her area, and may want to stay until she is vested. Great benefits and very practical.

[@nancyt6895]

Really good episode. Next level.

[@user-Mom1990]

Tire Rubber: I work in County Government and the old tires are taken to a local department once per year for Tire Amnesty Day and they are sent to the state to be recycled into crumb rubber for playgrounds, rubber in place, rubber mulch, and rubberized asphalt coating. This way they do not clutter your home or fill our landfill.

[@justzaya]

This one was really good

[@nnylasoR]

❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥Daaaaaang, TK!❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@danicegewiss862]

I have a dog and two cats. The dog doesn't want to go potty outside, so I put down a puppy pad. She uses it for the most part. Daily I clean up the mess. It aggravates me that she isn't trained. She gets enough walks. She goes out after she eats. I take her out again 1 minute later. She waits to go on my floor or the potty pad. Any suggestions? You mentioned dog waste, so I asked. My house is clean and decluttered for the most part. The dog is my only concern.

[@petmomful2260]

I adopted a dog that was not potty trained. I kept taking her out and praising her when she went potty outside. After 1 and 1/2 years it has really paid off. Yesterday we were in a store with her, and she started pulling toward the door. Turns out she had to go, bad. So be patient and hang in there and don't yell and belittle her. Hopefully she will get it. But having a pee pad down is not so bad.

[@kariw788]

Put the puppy pad close to the door. Try leaving the dog tied to a short leash outside in one regular spot until.it.goes to the bathroom. When it should have to go. Shortly after eating and a walk. When inside always have tied on a short leash to you or in a crate. Maybe the dog thinks outside is for play and too distracted to go. Or put a diaper pad on it while inside? And take off outside?

[@kennethbailey9853]

Goodness!🙂

[@kendallmcguire]

Minimalism to leave behind past trauma

[@natalieduncan3791]

She is fearful of the uncertainty. By setting out of her comfort zone. She knows what is happening in the "pain" familiar but don't like.

[@abiliomanuelmarquesdemendo9103]

com muito coração e emoção. massa

[@TheHoriginal]

T.K. = The man 😎

[@ldiventi]

Where do you get your tshirts? Love them

[@angierecovering_clutterer2434]

I like the way TK explains things without sounding like a preacher. When they alluded to organ donation, does that mean we need to minimize our internal organs? 😆 Wealthy people who have consumerism are triggered by minimalism talk because it forces them to realize that many of them define themselves by the things they own. As if they wouldn't be the person they are, or be recognizable as that person, if they weren't carrying the Prada bag, etc. If all you are is a clothing rack, then that's all people can recognize about you. Not that those who wear haute couture are necessarily shallow people, but if how you look is that important to you, minimalism sort of flies in the face of that, and then cognitive dissonance sets in and causes discomfort.

[@suritaylor7517]

lov TK

[@sofigag]

With regards to pets...get a Yorkie and you'll think you have 5 dogs❤😂😂

[@Ahlrrose]

Here's one: Hobby Hoarder

[@FuzzyWozzyStar]

Maybe the wife is just looking for compassionate listening

[@natalieduncan3791]

What is the discussion around the pyramid relevance about the channel

[@therealjenniferrr]

I wanna see "Ask yo mama."

[@t.k.coleman5398]

This is what the world needs 😂

[@ChayatsujiKimono]

8:08, Did Josh call T.K. Ryan or did I hear that wrong?

[@nnylasoR]

@Heather O'Toole - Agreed.

[@la_baby_khalil7703]

😀😂😁

[@daphne7897]

❤

[@olivia9066]

👍

[@kylewyatt1732]

Pretty sure the CIA knows exactly how many "birds" are in the air at one time.

[@justzaya]

😂😂

[@chrisnutter6933]

Tire rubber where the rubber meets the road?

[@LOLA-kr7vn]

The guy trying to help his wife..... he's trying to FIX the problem with what seems so obvious to him. Women don't work that way. We need to analyze it to death. Bitch, complain and cry about it. We just need to go through the whole process for some reason. My advice? Listen don't just hear her. LISTEN. then give some ideas and leave it alone! She'll pick it up when she's ready. Understanding, and empathy goes a long way especially when she's about to give birth.

[@jainthorne4136]

I thought that they totaled missed that birth is a big enough change for her to deal with right now. Later the career change can be considered but for now the child consumes all her thoughts.

[@summertakacs-michaelsonch8842]

The Husband may be nervous about how life is changing at the moment too, and worried about the future. The Teacher needs to be supported in her current task and priority, which is of way more importance. She's about to become a Mother!❤

[@jj1982ify]

The "minimalist" aesthetic...

[@HaloReachMaster11]

Yes to Alex. Your wife needs a sounding board, thats it. Men are problem solvers and want to fix things, women tend to throw information out to the universe to see where it sticks. Women think out loud. When your wife is ready for a change, there will be no stopping her. Be on stand by Alex, that is all she needs from you right now.

[@louisedost8476]

😮Tire rubber and desert earthships recycle!!!😂

[@minaz2816]

The pyramids are mysterious and unusual…if there were pyramids everywhere , they’d be ordinary…like clutter

[@Iinfiniteknowing]

She's prob.exhausted being pregnant so will get disability so maybe after the birth move on.SHES PREGNANT !!!ENOUGH

[@FisherOfMen705]

What does a 2023 philosopher look like? Ya, it's these 3 men.

[@youjpntube]

These guys sound like preachers.

[@mamakaka73]

Women don't see "help" the same as men. Women mostly want you to listen and say "there there" but men want to find solutions.

[@MandySam13]

That’s only true in some situations. Because some situations require “venting”, but not necessarily something you need to fix. But in this situation where her job is making her miserable but she wants to stay coz “it’s more familiar?” that does require a solution. But if she doesn’t want to do anything about it, then she needs to stop complaining. Or take her husbands advice and do something to move forward.

[@orientalshorthaircats]

'some people have too many friends, some people too many pets, and on our private podcast we will talk about minimalist approach to anti-racism' - what, too many races? I'm sorry it sounds bad, but it sounded bad