EP 8 AREA 51 | OBSOLETE

[@gravygraves5112]

I know it's mainly plot stuff, but tanks wouldn't be obsolete because of these, they'd be more niche though. The Exos would dominate for urban and jungle/forest warfare conditions but tanks would still dominate in open field combat. Basically, tanks would not longer be needed in the places they already are vulnerable in and Exos would be a huge force multiplier for any military engaging in urban or jungle warfare.

[@valentinov901]

Also another great use of ligth exos is shocktroopers infantry Want to assault heavily defended position? Combine tanks and exos Tanks are the kings of open plains Exos would be masters of combat on asimetrical terrain that benefits from dexterity and agility

[@sometimeslol5578]

exos are more maneuverable and able to lift tanks

[@ibenyibyt613]

Its not that theyre obsolete beccuse of their uses. Tanks are established as being million times less cost efficient than exos, in the geo political discourse i can see that its not business to have a tank, be destroyed by weapons that literally cost rocks. So any army can see itself crippled in the long run as well as the goverment funds and as other countries, mostly third and south imperialist agree to the use of exos, the USA government cant keep bluffing or keeping in line other countries (if you think this machines are going to be still in the earth over other 30 or so 50 years) like China and Korea, its like a second cold war, and its similar to the actual state of china and the USA Navy, where the balance between fear and aggresion changes every year between who appears to have the most big navy army

[@ibenyibyt613]

Even today they use phrases in enterviews like ''Its not about numbers, but of quality of navy carriers'' in this case it can be applied to exos, making a huge difference if you take into equation how much tanks can a exo destroy in a conflict

[@ksavierkrajewski716]

​@@ibenyibyt613exqctly if they were able to replicate the technology for tanks tanks would be better but they arent

[@genpo7739]

フェルナンドくん「俺も乗りてぇ」とか馬鹿っぽい台詞言いながらも、その後の戦闘訓練でエグゾ操縦に慣れている隊長とやり合いながら議論を交わしたり、ちゃんと有能なのが面白い

[@drewood4189]

Пиши на русском, блять

[@GftFghh]

Love love you

[@Yeast726]

@@drewood4189 Пиши на английском, блять

[@oper_stail7775]

Нихуя китайцы

[@ramanpazhanur8402]

@@drewood4189 ,

[@DJSkittles365]

First off, as a US Marine. That would've been their first reaction after receiving the GEL. They would drink it.

[@maartenwinkelmans1032]

Like eating crayons or chalk :) ?

[@DJSkittles365]

@@maartenwinkelmans1032 both, and glue.

[@chaoschronicler3211]

heh guy in my game group said the same thing

[@GrySgtBubba]

RIGHT! Lmao Semper Fi

[@EJAXK13]

Rank and unit

[@shisat5723]

AGM-65: US$17,000 to $110,000, EXOframe *32 : US$3,200 or Limestone 32t

[@alucard96FB]

You are right. Numbers don't lie

[@strichtarn3228]

You're forgetting to factor in the damages that could be prevented by destroying those EXOFRAMEs

[@Caboose44567]

War isn't a game of math for countries with enough tax payer dollars to work with

[@alucard96FB]

@@Caboose44567 You are right. But: If the said taxpayers find out there is a better AND cheaper solution they will demand the use of the said solution

[@battleshipfreez2344]

@@alucard96FB Congress will definately stands for this budget-killer. XD

[@Llanvabon]

6:34 【C4ISTAR】指揮（Command）、統制（Control）、通信（Communication）、コンピューター（Computer）、情報（Intelligence）、監視（Surveillance）、目標捕捉（Target Acquisition）、偵察（Reconnaissance）を統合的に活用して軍事活動を行う軍事用語。 6:39【バイオミメティクス】生物の構造や機能、生産プロセスを観察、分析し、そこから着想を得て新しい技術の開発や物造りに活かす科学技術。 6:54 【USAF】アメリカ空軍（United States Air Force）エリア51はかねてから新型航空機開発、テスト及び訓練を行っており、UFOを解析・研究しているというゴシップが存在する。プロジェクト・ゼノゲージ（XENO GAGE：外来種の質物 (しちもつ)？）は元々は空軍主導のプロジェクト？ 4:41　研究員が兵士に監視されている所から推測すると、プロジェクト・ゼノゲージからエグゾ研究を引き継いだウォーターハウス05は、ロッキード・マーティン社の一部門、いわゆる「スカンク・ワークス」の可能性がある。ただ、陸戦運用を想定したエグゾのパッケージを開発するにあたってロッキード以外の従業員(ゼネラルダイナミクス社等)も含まれている可能性も。大きなくくりの「米軍(United States Armed Forces)」という意味合いになると、DARPA(国防高等研究計画局)の出向組ということも。 0:58【A-10】神。

[@すーぱー醤油さん]

USAFをユーサフって読むの始めて知った

[@Llanvabon]

@@すーぱー醤油さん ちなみにアメリカ軍もUnited States Armed Forcesでユサフになります。大きなくくりの「米軍」という意味合いになると、ウォーターハウス05はDARPAの出向組ということもあるかもです。

[@Llanvabon]

​@@本部-m4q　初期型のロールアウトから40年後にC型になって本領発揮する神…恐ろしや。

[@2389seyx]

そして幾度かの様々な運用テストや実践訓練を経て第1話につながっていく、と。それから、専門用語の解説、ありがとうございます！

[@鯱-m8v]

A-10=神 もしくはガーディアンエンジェル

[@JAF30]

Outside some of the factual rank and other elements, I really love how this anime calls into question all the common beliefs about how war will be fought and with what weapons in the future.

[@JAF30]

Oh and thank you to Bandai for letting those without Premier watch these.

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

It tries to, but it goes WAY too far with way too little actual improvement from the EXOFRAMES.

[@KoishiVibin]

Personally, I'm not entirely a fan. I'd argue that the Exoframe offers the next infantryman/light vic, but not a replacement entirely. An MBT possesses enough armour to shrug off any small arms or autocannon it can hold, and rockets are contested across turret sides, profile front, and sometimes hull sides too. It's too radical of a change, without the backing to prove it. While highly mobile, it isn't mobile enough and while strong, it isn't strong enough. That said, something like this would be excellent in more open terrain, but prepared infantry would smash it fairly easily without some fairly radical upgrades.

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

@@KoishiVibin Actually unless that infantry is packing unguided anti-tank rockets, it'd be a right bitch to counter as a normal infantry unit. That's the role it is best at, as a heavier infantry unit for assaults and shock actions. Just enough armor to require anti-tank weapons, but not enough that it can actually replace a tank (nor can it carry that level of firepower either. It can use buildings as cover, making guided anti-tank more difficult in urban environments, especially stuff like the Javelin which would basically be useless outside an open field situation. I actually disagree about open terrain. This would be terrible in it, as it would become easy meat to any kind of significant vehicle-based armament, tank or no, without the upsides of a vehicle (while it might have better ability to be on all terrain, it won't be faster when using that all terrain capability unless it's extremely broken terrain like a mountain.

[@KoishiVibin]

@@Gustav_Kuriga The question is if it can. It's vulnerable to autocannon fire, and a modern autocannon is concerningly accurate. An automated stabilised turret firing slowly with large caliber rounds in the 40-50mm range would rapidly destroy these with just a few hits. Even heavy machine guns are effective against lower end ones, as seen early on. An M2 HMG is capable of a lot of damage against the metal plate these seem to carry, especially with specialized loads for busting steel. It may be able to use buildings as cover, but it's still quite large. A human being is compact, and an anti armor weapon is to a significant level, as well. In the early days, I'd argue that even a 40mm grenade would be effective. Later on, simple shaped charges, tossed off the building or slapped on. In an open field, they have room to maneuver and room to operate with the full support of tanks and light armor to contest enemy heavy armor and AT options. In an urban environment, sure, but the higher the weight budget goes, the higher a chance their feet blow through the building.

[@marumenn3671]

こんな綺麗な映像でA-10が観れる日が来ると思ってなかった

[@赤羽無月]

しかもちゃんとアヴェンジャーが機体の左寄りに装備されてるのもベネ

[@jamesricker3997]

The defense contractors won't fall apart They will just build add-ons for the EXO frames

[@arnowisp6244]

Exactly. Who even fits the armor into these things, the optics and even the modified LMGs used as these things SMGs?

[@MEGATRYANT]

It would crash the American defense market because the US is ratified the Sankt Gallen Arrangement, that regulates the use of EXOFRAMES. It would crash the market as nations stop buying regular equipment like tanks and APCs and go all out for EXOFRAMES, as the defense contractors would then have to put up time and money into R&D'ing EXOFRAME modifications that they aren't allowed to do (at least officially/publicly).

[@MEGATRYANT]

@@arnowisp6244 Most likely NOT the United States defense contractors, as the US is part of the Sankt Gallen Arrangement which regulates EXOFRAMES and their uses, so it's not like they can make and market the EXOFRAME Mk.32 HyperDestroyer for foreign use. The Santa-Muerte episode for example implies that people in the US can't have EXOFRAMES, as the Militias use pick-up trucks instead (Of course, ignoring that getting full-auto M2 machine-guns to gun down border crossers would probably already be much, much harder and illegal than trading limestone for a mech, so it makes you wonder why they don't).

[@KoishiVibin]

@@MEGATRYANT Not hard. Give them some warn time, run a fast transition, done. AN/M3 double barrels firing as SMGs, repurp'ed bushmasters used as assault rifles. And the tank still has the place, regardless of what is shown here.

[@reaperwithnoname]

The profit margins wouldn't be nearly as high.

[@cumulonimbusapothecary1079]

"Welcome to Area 51 - our volunteers are idiots, our scientists are jocks, and our researchers are crazy."

[@faatihh1130]

sounds like black mesa

[@ShinCadian27th]

@@faatihh1130 Maybe Area 51 IS Black Mesa, and SpaceX is basically Aperture Science

[@Hyde-dg7ef]

@@ShinCadian27th One could only wish and dream. After all, i think it's been proven already that area 51 is a testing site for military aircraft.

[@pteroid11]

"You got the brightest minds, an absurd budget, and the backing of the US government, what'd you come up with?" "*Gulp* Is gatorade."

[@mayosilver6370]

This is a completely underrated comment

[@ComasGhost]

@@mayosilver6370 yeah right?

[@mikemoore2791]

Its "safe" to drink... right up to when it renders humans down to a sludge that operates alien tech. Just like in Matrix, using us as batteries...

[@isaiahgadil7697]

@@mayosilver6370 agree

[@anoninunen]

"It is a common misconception that we've been putting flouride in the water. Secretly we've been replacing it with Powerade!" "SSSSSLLUUUUURRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPP" "Gordon, I am no longer thirsty." - Dr. Harold Pontiff Coomer

[@oompalumpus699]

Cheap, reliable, and easy to fix. Who could even resist using the EXOS when they have all those qualities?

[@lamaharezka]

Easy to fix means its easy to broke

[@jamesbuckner4791]

It's heavily implied that this is just all worn-out Machinery anyways. The Lowner episode sort of explains it as that way.

[@fadhilnugraha195]

Military & defense industries. They will lose a lot of money.

[@arnowisp6244]

@@fadhilnugraha195 Not if they start selling attachments to these things. Armor, weapons, missles. These are just platforms waiting to be modified into weapons.

[@zikkuraorgannon6680]

@@fadhilnugraha195 you forgot heavy machinery corps. But to be honest all of thouse arguments were discussed in ep 2

[@reaperwithnoname]

I love that they lampshade how ridiculous it is to spend millions on an exo when its primary advantage over other vehicles is its low cost, and then do it anyway. It's perfect, because that kind of ridiculous decision is exactly what the US military would do.

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

Not necessarily. When first used in combat, the Exos were not much better than technicals or riding on horseback when in combat. Adding on weapons and armor changes that. Whether or not this venture pays off remains to be seen.

[@Hust91]

The problem of course is that lost lives in war causes political problems at home - keeping your own soldiers alive is much more important for democratic countries. It's political. But what's probably a much more important factor is that by requiring US-exos to have millions of dollars in gear made by the defense industry you get that industry behind it or at least less against it. And since the US election system is dominated by legalized bribes from corporations with the defense industry being one of the biggest such groups, they will basically always demand their cut in order to allow their bought senators to accept any change without pulling their funding/election campaign donations.

[@reaperwithnoname]

@@BrowncoatGofAZ I would disagree. If your Exo is almost as expensive as a tank, you might as well just use a tank in most environments. We can also see this in the Exos used by the Outcast Brigade: they prioritize low cost and mobility over armor and expensive equipment (excepting optics, where they seem to have splurged), and they understand the Exo better than anyone. For Bowman's extremely specific requirements, the TOAD makes perfect sense (he wants Exos and has unlimited budget, but has to keep numbers small to avoid arousing suspicion from his own bosses), but for anything else it's absurd. Against any Exo brigade of renotely the same cost the TOADs would get eaten alive. So, Bowman isn't crazy, but the people who designed the TOAD might well be.

[@reaperwithnoname]

@@Hust91 In the context of the US I would partially disagree with the casualties part, but everything else you said is exactly why this is so in-character for the US military.

[@Hust91]

@@reaperwithnoname I think even in th context of the corruption of the US election system, US mass casualties would lead to war fatigue extremely rapidly (see Vietnam) to the point that people would start voting for whichever party seemed most likely to deescalate and protect soldiers better. Of course it might also have to do with the US army being made up of "volunteers" who in part consist of people with a significant training investment - as opposed to barely trained 12 year olds. This might weigh heavier than the political impact of lost soldiers on the reelection of warmongering senators.

[@oompalumpus699]

When the main battle tank was first introduced, people in the military actually laughed because it was ludicrous to them. They reasoned that they can achieve the same thing with wheeled artillery operated manually by infantry. None of them considered the advantage that an armored, mobile siege platform would bring to the battlefield. Traditionalists will always scoff at anything that's new.

[@itsuk1_1]

where did you learn that from? the whole god damn Imperial war office knew it is the future of land warfare, and later entire Europe realized and followed. NO ONE ever think towed artillery can break through barbed wire and trenches. If there is one he is an idiot.

[@rebelblade7159]

MBT's came after the end of the second world war. I think you are talking about tanks invented during the first world war. After the end of the war, tanks were viewed as something to support the infantry while Germany did the opposite by having infantry support tanks which showed success during the second world war and reshaped armored warfare. Also when ATGM's where invented, people thought they would make Tanks obsolete. But that isn't the case as Tanks evolved with stuff like ERA and active protection systems.

[@TerryBradstreet]

Novelists will always chase a fad without realizing what they abandon. And usually, the fad is actually an old mistake that was fashionable many times before, because someone sells it as a brand new idea.

[@terricon4]

Ya, as Rebelblade said, Main Battel Tanks are the modern all in one type, mobility, armor, and offense. Back when tanks were called Tanks as a method of hiding their information as that of portable water tanks from enemy spies they really were just a questionable new addition and yes many did question their use, big, slow, easy hit by any old field gun, and just super unreliable. On the other hand they could move a field gun up on their own over rough terrain, break through some barricades (if they made it that far), and against a more lightly armed enemy with machine guns they could be useful. In the end those tanks did have basically zero effect on the war, because as they were they they were pretty shit. But people did redesign them completely for the most part. When we got the Renault FT that was when tanks became practical to a much better extent. Core redesigns meant they were more mobile, less costly, better armored, and relatively better armed for their investment. Improvements in engineering also made them more reliable. Many people knew tanks COULD turn into something better in the future even if they weren't great at that time. That said many still supported them because they were a MORALE boost, a big one for those back home especially, but also for those in the field when doing a charge, knowing there's a big metal monster moving up with you can help. But ya, tanks got redesigned into something more practical. The core of the frame is already stuff, so just bolting five tons of armor and expensive optics and guns onto it won't exactly make them better in their core areas like ground pressure and stuff. Traditionalist often scoff at new things yes, but also often for good reason at the time. Aircraft carriers for example, when they first came out they were pretty damn shitty, short ranged, couldn't carry bigger bombs well, landing and operation times were limited. Everyone agreed they were good for scouting though, but outside of perhaps hitting stationary targets, lacking. Some decided to bet on their future though, you know, once the planes got bigger and faster and could carry big bombs and torpedoes, once we'd gotten foldable wings and other things working to save space and figure out how to cram and maintain a decent number on a single carrier. Once we'd figure out how to safely take off and land without a tenth of your aircraft breaking each time. Now, I and many others don't scoff at the idea that the frames can be useful, we scoff at the idea that they are useful like they show, and that they replace everything like they show. Because they are generally just ignoring physics and making the enemy as incompetent as possible to be easily countered. No matter what we do, the current tank is not going to fly, or be turned into a hovercraft that skims around like these mechs do. I mean those hover feat mobility systems are like two modern little personal hovercrafts turning into shoes for a giant gundam and letting it skim around... complete BS. Running through soft soil and swampy terrains... not with those small feet and armor bolted on you aren't. Uses would be found for these yes, and I can think of several, I did think of a few at first when it started, but then I saw they just went for the making everyone else incompetent and ignoring physics route to make them seem good and that's where my frustration started.

[@Prometheus19853]

@@terricon4 - I'd like to preface by saying I agree with the bulk of your comment. Every new weapon system on Earth faced difficulties in the early development stages. If we judged the tank by its performance in the Somme, it would've been shitcanned and relegated to the annals of history. Same with aircraft, aircraft carriers, guided munitions, tactical ballistic missiles, etc. etc. All of them were impractical bordering on useless in their first iterations. Now they're indispensable weapons and weapons platforms. However... I have to object to the ground pressure argument. It doesn't hold up to cursory examination. Dirt isn't infinitely compressible, it's not foam, and it sure as shit isn't soft. Anyone that's ever had to dig a hole knows that, it's why we made powerful machines to dig for us instead. Not to mention that many, many, *many* places on Earth have thick clay immediately under the surface. As it turns out, just about any ground soft enough to sink a walker would also sink a tank by sheer weight. There's probably some very specific terrain that would buck that trend, but by and large it'd be true. Low ground pressure doesn't suddenly make soft, loamy soil hold 70 tons of metal brick. Swamps, mud, and soft ground still stymie tanks just as badly as they did in WWI, it's just that now we know better than to deploy them in those conditions. Well, most of the time anyway.

[@NEGENIGMA]

これシーズン０１から見てるけど凄い こんだけ「違和感」のないＣＧ初めて見るわ 普通リアル系になるとＣＧ特有の現象「不気味の谷」の影響を受けるんだけど このアニメ作品はそれが100％無いの、 フォトリアル系というかリアルな絵画が動いていながら それに違和感がない事をさらりとやってる。 ロボットの戦闘シーンをいれてキャラの表情の動きの節約もしてるけど それが味になってる。 セル・ルックアニメーションも「超大変」なんだけど このOBSOLETEはそれよりも大変な事してるかもね。 武右ェ門と言う日本のＣＧメーカーが作ってるのもビックリだった。 てっきり最初見た時ハリウッド映画会社が制作してると 思ったしね

[@pangerancasper6426]

Nani kore

[@ALapin-dr3kr]

質感が絶妙だよね　リアルルックみたいにハイライトが強くなくてセルルックよりも陰影の情報量が多い　手書き風のハッチングもアメコミっぽさを出しててよくあるセル風CGより画として重い　 そうそうエグゾフレームの3Dモデル(STL形式)って配布されてるんですよね　勉強になるなあ　project-obsolete.com/special/exoframe-3d/

[@kalekkalel1549]

¿Que la mamá de quien?

[@OWL-cw2ki]

あんだけの打撃やら色んな方向からの力を受けてもなお正常に稼働する強靭さ、壊れればモジュールごと交換すれば良い冗長性。 まさしく究極の機械だなぁ。 一台欲しいや。 追記、EXO がバスケットボールでシュートを決めるシーン、よく見ると尾部の車輪のハブが揺れに合わせて左右に揺れてる。こいつはジャイロみたいなものなのか？ 更に追記、EXOの部品取り替えのとき、軸も軸受も見受けられない代わりにゲルで濡れた断面だけが見える。ひょっとするとゲルの分子間力のみで各部品は接合されていて、分子構造を変化させることで駆動力を生み出しているのかも。

[@スパルタン005]

8:28から、左側の機体の尻の辺りを見ると、上半身の動きに合わせて車輪が傾いてますね。やはり姿勢制御系？

[@Llanvabon]

@@スパルタン005 エピソード4の4:34では尾部は接地していないので、やはり尾部は姿勢制御用ジャイロのようですね。 8:02でボウマン機のジャイロ内側のパーツが動いているので、ヨーを傾きで、ピッチを内側ローターで制御してるかと思います。

[@ジブンヲウールゴウン]

G-ER流体みたいだね、ガンソードの

[@ChihayaHolic]

あれだけ簡単に付け直せるということはドリルアームとかチェーンソーとか鉤爪とかに魔改造したパーツへの換装も出来るということだよな(笑)

[@nomad77543]

@@ChihayaHolic メタ的なことを言うなら、そういう風に解釈して「俺エグゾ」を作ってもいいのよ？というプラモデルメーカーの提案かと。

[@MrBeee92]

バスケのムーブがちゃんと流行りのステップになってて感心。

[@NSR250RMC1889]

海兵隊独自で装備開発するのがリアル

[@Nancarrowa]

Air Force Security Forces wearing sunglasses inside... why am I not surprised? Decent attempt for accuracy though!

[@MrJH101]

Calls the guy a lieutenant, but was actually wearing staff sergeant insignias on his collar. It seems the dubbing was a little off there because no Marine would ever mistake those ranks. Interesting show though.

[@starkat70]

especially when that guy calling the Staff Sergeant, Lieutenant is the Lieutenant ...that and the voice over dub sounds like an older person who should be and seems to be in a position of higher rank then what is on his Lapels he behaves and sounds like he should be a major or something definitely not a Lieutenant.

[@EPiMELEOS]

in german version subtitles no such "lieutenant" gets mentioned. Maybe you can post a time stamp?!

[@starkat70]

@@EPiMELEOS 5:20 - 5:26

[@EPiMELEOS]

@@starkat70 I see.. you guys watched the english audio/synchro version. Because neither in japanese original dub nor in german subtitles they say lieutenant at all... So only the english version has that ~mistake then.

[@benlex5672]

The original only mention "you", never a rank. Not sure what on earth dub did.

[@くろべえ-j6e]

都市内でも活動しやすい小さめのサイズに、液体が動力源兼駆動系、歩兵の小火器でも抜ける装甲っていうのはボトムスっぽいけど、爆弾喰らったりA10浴びてもモジュール単位でぶっ壊れるだけでその場でニコイチ、サンコイチ修理できちゃうとは……たまげたなあ。

[@2389seyx]

一体どんな技術を使っているのか分かったもんじゃありませんが、宇宙中に広がるありとあらゆる極限環境下で侵略なり開発なりを進めるにはどうしても必要だったってのが容易に想像できますね。正に夢が広がリングです。

[@タケ-m8j]

30mmガトリングをA10って表現するの草

[@ロレンスチャールズ]

ニコイチ、サンコイチが出来るのはフロントミッションに 近いかな？ リアルロボットアニメに有りがちなSFファンタジー要素を 排してミリタリー洋画の世界観を全面に出してるところも 良く似ているし、その分好感が持てる。

[@ヤス-l4b]

ボトムズよりは、はるかに生存性高いなあwwいいね

[@Yukikaze-yt9sj]

@@ヤス-l4b ロボの生存性は高い なおパイロット

[@publixmn2622]

American exoframes look more similar to their armored vehicles like Bradley and MRAP.

[@jack6723]

Based off what is shown at this particular moment, the tank industry can theoretical survive by doing in research and development on ways to make a quadpedal exoframe or even making two person exoframe weapons. Or even if they find ways to use the gel system as a new fuel source or movement mechanism. If you can't reverse engineer the tech, make new tech surrounding it. Or even trying to tap into the exoframes power system to power rail guns, or electromagnetic devices, like the laser used in the first episode. Or even try to modify a exoframe to power the movement of a new vehicle. You aren't reinventing the wheel just how to push it forward.

[@longdragon7067]

The "tank" industry has already done that in the US. the M1 Abrams thought to be obsolete too old too heavy and a gas guzzler has had tons taken off it's weight by simply taking out the copper wire and replacing it with fiber optic cable. The gas guzzling turbine engine that gives it it's speed, instead of replacing it with a slower conventional diesel engine had a software upgrade so it sips fuel making it as efficient as a semi truck without sacrificing any power or speed. As far as firepower that only requires advances in the projectile to remain effective for the future

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

There is a major limit to the calibre of weapons tha can be carried on one though. They are bigger, better armoured infantry who would (Without plot armour.) only excell in urban enviroments where tanks already struggle. Tanks being vastly superior in weight distribution and armour protection grants them a place in all other theatures, exos wouldn't be entirely useless outside of urab areas, but they would be even better if they worked with the tanks that are, on average, not vulnrable to 12.7mm. All it takes is for the already extremely common 12.7mm calibres to be refitted onto tanks, which are already capable of accepting them but normally don't due to the lack of need IRL (Exceptions being the Char Leclerc.) for them to coaxially spray down anyone, not to mention a remote weapon station for the other crew to use other then the gunner (Also extremely common.)

[@longdragon7067]

@@spamuraigranatabru1149 Yeah the whole quad tank design is cool but fatally flawed as each leg has multiple joints which present weak points. Take out a leg and it's out of action for good. Take out a track and it can be repaired in the field. The latest M1 the M1A2 SEPv4 just combined several specialized rounds into 1 multipurpose round leaving more room for AT rounds and it carries a 50 cal with the option for a 2nd. At best exo suited infantry will have enhanced stamina, light armor in critical areas, small arms at best as any hit to a joint will still take out the best armored soldier as you just can't armor up a man 100% and still have him be mobile. Spray and exo suited soldier with a SAW and he will go down from penetration of a weak spot, multiple hits penning an armored area or the simple kinetic energy of being pummeled with so much lead Not to mention one hit from a cheap old rpg and the armored limbs will go flying off in all directions Saw a video of a ukranian flying a $500 amazon drone drop what looked like a rpg round with a chute down on a Russian soldier all armored up in kevlar on patrol. His friggin head popped off and landed 6 feet in front of his body. Newer knew what hit him. His armor was useless

[@CyrusEpion]

@@longdragon7067 Oh man I gotta find that video. You watch it on KZbin?

[@Fiifardana]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqK6aZZmjqp3sNU

[@j_k_online]

Man even the detail at 2:41 for Edwards AFB is insanely accurate.

[@Ajc-ni3xn]

the detail of the warthog’s autocannon being offset to the left is great

[@3d_kuma]

飲んでも悪影響が無いのではなく、ピコレベルの作用物質が何に影響を与えてるか観測できないから大丈夫と思ってる可能性もあるよね。 モジュール化した機械部品を動かすゲルということは、このゲルに含まれる何かしらの物質が人体に作用して筋肉その他の動きを制御できる可能性も残る。常飲しているのも脳に作用して中毒性があるからでは？

[@シューラ-e3k]

すいませんあの…私のような阿呆にも分かりやすく言うとどういう感じなんでしょうか…？

[@3d_kuma]

@@シューラ-e3k 完全に根拠無い妄想なのですけど、この青いゲルは「意思」を伝達するための受容体なのでは？と。油圧ポンプの油や、脳みそのシナプスみたいに単体じゃ意味がないけど群体になったり適切な容器に入って何かしらの意味のある信号を受けた時にそれをバイパスする為の物質なんじゃないかなと。 つまり、ある日突然、地球に普及しちゃったこれらが一斉に反乱する可能性もあるんじゃないかっていう妄想です😇

[@シューラ-e3k]

@@3d_kuma あ、なるほど！操縦桿を握ってエグゾを動かす様に異星人も青いゲルを飲んだ地球人を操る可能性があるってことですか！中毒性があるなら体外に排出されても継続的に摂取し続けるから問題ないって事ですか！

[@3d_kuma]

@@シューラ-e3k まさにそんな感じです！

[@jam0016]

In MGS2, the commandant of the marinecorps created a metal gear to ensure the country's reliance on the corps and it's survival, much like general lejuerne. Looking at general Berger's vision getting rid of the tanks and investing in better gear and tech, I'd say shit like this might actually come to fruition

[@デュパンO]

A-10神を出すとは分かってるじゃないか

[@下田洋介-p2f]

惜しいのはA10といえば機体が煙に包まれたと思ったらバラバラバラバラ!っと着弾音で地面に砂煙、その直後にヴーーーーーｯって発射音が、と思ったらキューーーンって機体のエンジン音が耳をつんざくのが十八番なんやけど....ま、ええかｗ

[@1974aflamazda]

実機のエンジン音や着弾音をわざわざ収録なんて芸当が出来るのは昔のマクロス製作スタッフくらいなもんや。

[@m24lt31]

自由落下爆弾でいいのにマーベリック使ってたのもったいない

[@スミスジャン]

@@下田洋介-p2f 描写の関係上そうなることはないからね その描写したい場合は奥に小さくA-10配置して画面手前にエグゾ置くなりすればいいんだけど、あまりにニッチだから広く受けさせるなら銃口アップが一番迫力あるから仕方ない

[@下田洋介-p2f]

@@スミスジャン Uチューブ動画でもよく銃口アップでバーーーっと射撃シーン映した後にシーンに移行して前述した着弾演出に移るのがお約束やｗ

[@privatejoker3352]

What a well-thought-out anime. And what interesting characters, each has a character, charisma. When you start watching from the first episodes, it seems that these are random stories, about random heroes, but after watching the first 5 episodes, you understand that this is one whole plot. With one whole story. Very cool and interestingly thought out - this anime. Well, and what is no less important, this anime likes to touch on very - relevant and acute topics. Which have ceased to flicker in the media industry. I can't even believe that this anime came out 4 years ago. And now, I accidentally came across this masterpiece. Which I am watching for the second time with pleasure and interest.

[@Leon-Taisa]

内部ゲルの漏出が3割程であれば何の支障もなく活動可能・・・。 くっつけたり離したり意外はエグゾフレームは人体構造に近い物があるな。

[@2990117]

第三話でも機械より生物に近いって言及されてたね

[@2389seyx]

実際、生物工学を応用した技術の産物なんでしょうね。

[@f.b.i5261]

Finally, Someone proof that area 51is full of robot,let’s raid it

[@lazygamertew5374]

that a10 though

[@lowbudgetname2745]

Arent the fbi is supposed to stop people from raiding

[@f.b.i5261]

@@lowbudgetname2745 I’m actually an undercover lol

[@Shatterwings060]

ackchyually, depending on it's loadout/kit; a stryker can be anything from an IFV to an ATGM, it's not just an transporter of people.

[@chuchugiin8390]

@@lowbudgetname2745 yeah?! 🤔

[@Ming1975]

It's like the era of skilled swordsmen having to use guns all over again.

[@carso1500]

i mean, its only for training and getting accostumed to pilot the mechs, the first episode showed that they still use guns

[@osakanone]

@@carso1500 You misunderstand: They mean the jump from one entire type of warfare to another.

[@ccapwell]

@@osakanone But not really. You go from grunts on foot to grunts in mechs. That's really the only difference. Despite the fact they showed brain dead helo pilots and tank crews, in the real world those assets would still be usable. Real helo pilots don't fucking hover low and slow over one spot like that - it's an awesome way to let someone with an RPG ruin your day. And those tanks in that one episode - I can't even. Now imagine tanks and helos working WITH exo support, you know, how they do in the real world already. Even bare metal exos backed by tanks and helos would be a huge force multiplier.

[@osakanone]

@@ccapwell Right, but what it means is that the composition of war fundamentally changes and you're probably going to start seeing hybridized platforms.

[@tacomeme429]

Plus, it's not like you can put heavy armor plating on a regular infantry soldier. But an exoframe? No problem

[@user-zp7mx4sb6c]

普段アニメの実写化には反対だけど、これだけはマイケル・ベイ監督でハリウッド化して欲しい

[@すーぱー醤油さん]

マイケルベイだと暗さが薄まりそうだからスピルバーグ監督にお願いしたい。またはクリストファーノーランがどこまでCGなしで作るのかを見てみたい

[@一郎-m3f]

マイケルベイは味噌も◯ソも一緒くたにするから この作品ならキャメロン監督でしょう。

[@toyomaru7342]

お邪魔しますw ニールブロムカンプが良いと思います

[@森田勇斗]

@@toyomaru7342 確かにニール・ブロムカンプが一番適任かも。

[@将軍ピンポン]

CG技術ならアンダーソン監督とか……いや彼はないかな？

[@BigEpinstriping]

Saying they didn't discover much about how they work is misleading. The fact that an exo can operate so long as it has at least 30% of it's Gel, and parts can be swapped on the fly is a big deal; Equiping a Exo with a reserve tank of gel (a one gallon cell) patch kits and tubing to perform "Gel transfusions" would easily keep exos mobile if damaged. If you have an undamaged unit, and one of the others was leaking fluid, you just patch the damaged unit, and transfer some of the gel from the reserve tank or from the undamaged unit. Furthermore, if you have a non-functioning unit, replacing damaged parts and infusing some gel could potentially make it funcitonal again. Researching the Gel could lead to other advancements, such as powering other man-made devices. The Exo itself is ancilary. The real key is the Gel.

[@garenjohnson6554]

I mean that's why they said they didn't find out more about how it works other than ways to use it in combat. They probably wanted to find out ways to replicate it instead of relying on aliens to provide some sort of superiority on the battlefield against other nations or terrorists. Even if they know that about the Gel, i don't think they can replicate it nor find an alternative fuel source so once again they are reliant on the aliens. All those things you just stated seem like combat knowledge to me and still brings them back to square one, bartering with the aliens. Furthemore, i really don't think they will be able to create a significant fuel source from the existing Gel they have because they still need it for the exos and if they don't even understand how it works, how can they make man-made machines that can use it?

[@benlex5672]

The original says that they don't understand the composition of the gel at all, and can only predict that it's some kind of nanomaterial. Basically, they couldn't figure out the atomic composition of the material. They also mentioned that they could only figure out the application of the machine, but not how it's made. Basically, their goal is to see whether they can recreate them but failed to do so, leading to disbandment after spending 5 times the amount of money spent on the whole apollo project.

[@Supreme-Emperor-Mittens]

Don't forget that if you're out in the desert, you can drink a little gel to keep you hydrated. Creepy as hell, lol. What I want to find out is, what's the REAL motive behind the aliens' ... "generosity" ???

[@slashharkiri4581]

@@Supreme-Emperor-Mittens honestly could just be that the Peddlers have more use for Limestone or value it highly for some reason (maybe comparitive rarity?) then the cargo of mini-mecha they were carrying.

[@reconcatToE]

これ登山とかいろんなスポーツが出てきて面白いよね

[@angelprimotors]

La mejor mejor serie de todas , 2 días viéndola y me encantó.

[@seraslain962]

I know it's all fiction, but I've got my own theory. The Exoframe is a flexible modular but perhaps outdated Exo-War (that is, a war already fought by Aliens among other Aliens) technology. Take an arm off an old Exo, fit it with a Fuel Tank, Line, and Thrusters, then slap it onto an Exo that's in better shape, and you've got the start of something more maneuverable. The technology is fundamentally open-source and simplified for such an advanced technology so that an Engineer that knows what they're doing can mess with the inside and outside of the Exo until it's a state-of-the-art combat machine. Surround it in RCS Thrusters and you've got an excellent machine for Orbital or even Deep Space combat scenarios and that's the option I can come up with.

[@user-hotakomayome]

エグゾフレームの設定って惹かれる要素があるから好きだよ。

[@nekomimi-san]

これくれた宇宙人から見たら使い方間違ってて呆れられてそう 例えばだけど、何でも作れる3Dプリンタあげたらそれをトンカチ代わりにして工作始めたみたいな感じとかね

[@優しいキャベツ]

元々何のために使ってたんだろな？採掘といってもこれ単体ではそこまで約にたたなそうだし 丁度人間が乗れる大きさなんだし案外関わらないと言いつつもデータ取りの為の実験だったりしてな

[@muwata-zangetsu]

だいたいどう使われるかは理解した上で渡してると思うなぁ

[@TANDORA__]

@@NUM133RS P1レース...

[@kanekitik7695]

「正しい使い方」なんてモノが、そもそも無いでしょう。異星人としては「これをどう使うのか」を見たいんじゃない？

[@ジブンヲウールゴウン]

@@NUM133RS うわでた

[@luizricardodeolivriraandre7494]

OBRIGADO BANDAI POR MANDAR VÍDEOS EM PORTUGUÊS 👍

[@nopperabou542]

非常時には水の代わりにもなるってのは強いな。戦場では水は貴重だし３割残ってれば動くって兵器としてもタチ悪いな。

[@akitosaka8179]

倒した敵機からも手足と同様に補充できるなら最悪ですよ。

[@傭兵カミニキ]

銃器と爆弾、人員が壊れるか死亡する以外だと倒すこと無理って地獄だなぁ

[@六四ムーバー]

めんどくさいロボットやなぁ

[@Pp-rw4ni]

水の代わりになるのあれ

[@hidehd3004]

エグゾで竹の束で作った大弓と足場鋼管の矢で戦う戦士とか出ないかな

[@Wilson_Andres_Ramirez_Rios]

Esto se ve muy bien... no se de que trata pero su animación simple recreando animaciones antiguas... y su historia se ve muy bien...

[@Revan_Morningstar]

Lo bueno es que está en español latino

[@Wilson_Andres_Ramirez_Rios]

@@Revan_Morningstar la verdad no se... porque... Use un celular con idioma en inglés y con una vpn en Inglaterra y el audio estaba en ingles en ese celular... lo hice porque vi comentarios en coreano y en inglés en este video... Es raro no se algo no me cuadra

[@Revan_Morningstar]

@@Wilson_Andres_Ramirez_Rios ok entonces no la miraste en español latino

[@Wilson_Andres_Ramirez_Rios]

@@Revan_Morningstar si si la vi en español lee porfavor mi respuesta anterior si es tan hamable mi estimado cabezon... Además alguien que se llama Shitposter en internet no debería ni hablar... ni derechos humanos deberían tener... Dx

[@2ftg]

Interesting, the geeks had Getac laptops. Yet again a very nice small detail.

[@コンドル男栗山]

無限に再生できる兵器とか嫌すぎる。というか本当に海兵隊は戦車大隊廃止に動いてるし、ドローンの台頭はアルメニアで証明されたし、エグゾがなくても現実世界は近づいてるよねぇ…無人機紛争。うげぇ…

[@下田洋介-p2f]

ボトムズだFMだメタルギアだのロボット系だけでなく、ゾイドの要素も入ってるな....

[@下田洋介-p2f]

あとアイロボットの香りもしないでもない....

[@namahumoti]

ドローン兵器を大量投入したアゼル軍はアルメニア軍を圧倒したし、この流れは止められないわね エレガントではないけど

[@ドメドメ-m6m]

海兵隊の戦車兵は陸軍への移動も提案されるそうやで。　別に海兵が戦車使わんでも陸軍が沢山使ってるしね。　ドローンの台頭って言っても、既存の兵器に便利な存在が加わったってだけで、ドローン万能論は宗教みたいなもんだで。

[@park-sy2ov]

@@ドメドメ-m6m 米軍の戦闘用UAVがタリバンにサイバー攻撃を受けてカメラ映像を傍受されてたなんてこともあったくらいですし、完璧ではないですしね

[@demoboy1259]

Assuming the average cost per 1,000kg of limestone is either 20 or 40 USD, An EXOFrame costs 1,000kg of limestone per unit, a battalion is 300 troops minimum and the development budget(including the base EXoframe's) is 4 million USD. How much of that would be dedicated to developing weapons, armour and equipment mods for the battalion's Exoframes?

[@TheEchoSage]

$12,000 just for the exo suits, leaving $3.988 million for the exos, or $13,000 per unit. With means one unit would cost $13,040

[@UGV2]

Y’all smart AF

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

For context, a US armored brigade combat team cost 3.1 billion. A infantry BCT cost 2.9 billion. But a army reserve and national guard ABCT only cost 900 million while a National guard IBCT cost 780 million. Only 1/5th of a US BCT cost is the combat element itself. The rest goes into logistical support and administration. Let us assume a exoframe BCT have 3 battalions and each battalion cost 4 million as claimed. That's 12 million for the combat element. Now we multiply that by 5 and we get 60 million. Even if we assume there's some missing costs here and bump it to 100 million, it still makes no sense. Its a impossibly low cost because even a reserve IBCT cost more than that. Granted, IBCT uses JLTVs and other vehicles that is more expensive; but the infantry and the associated weapons and sensors will balloon the price.

[@wrestling_dynamo9954]

Are we just gonna gloss over the fact that Fernando is clearly a staff sergeant and not a lieutenant?

[@MrJH101]

Yeah, I cringed when he called him that. As interesting as this show is with its mech-action, it does get a lot of military details wrong. For instance, the Air Force guards were wearing the wrong uniforms by this point in time.

[@fox812us]

@@MrJH101 yea but some still wear them here in japan so ill give them a pass

[@carlosandleon]

@@MrJH101 its an alternate universe anyway

[@derekkwok8838]

Or the fact they said a mini-gun that IRL shoots 30mm is shooting 7.62(I miss-understood what it meant)

[@adriangoodman8901]

I think the translation is just... Not great.

[@edgeblackstar7484]

This is the Best short mecha Series I’ve seen so far

[@桜エビ42]

モジュール化は公式ページに載ってたけど、まさか引っこ抜いてくっつける形とは…

[@outboardprsnlstndup]

Wow, the “training dagger” used is painted blue, just like training guns and knives. Nice touch

[@ドイツの運転手]

安くて丈夫で使いやすいとはまるで第２のAKだよねぇ

[@harigane4773]

もしくはHONDAのカブ

[@カシュカシュ-f4z]

実際に作ろうと思ったら第千くらいになりそう

[@keisinozaki80]

@救済の終王 さらに搭乗者の命はエグゾより基本安いからヤバい

[@2389seyx]

@救済の終王 見ているこっちが痛くなりそうなくらいに安上がりですね。

[@Mahbu]

I enjoy this series a lot and continue to come back to it. But after all these years, I've come to believe the Exoframes wouldn't be the death knell for major industries like this series suggests. Instead, as seen in this episode, I think industries would adjust to manufacturing accessories and add-ons for the exoframes.

[@糖分ホキュウ]

これを見るためにPremium入ったわ

[@昼行灯ひるあんどん]

ザンクトガレン協定の手前プレミアムには入らず1週間待つことにした

[@umbrellacorporation1687]

エグゾはアフリカのゲリラのためだけに作られた兵器って感じがする 異星人たちの星でもAKみたいな扱いだったのかな

[@2990117]

これは公式のHPに載ってる情報だけど、エグゾの車輪や搭乗席は後付の可能性があるとの事なので、本来は兵器ですらなく本当に単なる作業機械だったのでは

[@umbrellacorporation1687]

@@2990117 なるほど だとしたらどちらかと言うと異星人にとってのエグゾは地球でいうテクニカルトラックみたいな物だったのかも知れませんね

[@デュパンO]

中世にトラック送り込めば同じ事になるかもな。しかもエクゾは燃料も修理も訓練もいらないし

[@ほいみべほま]

煙草飲みが普通に出てるのが、良いです。

[@tester2388]

吸い方でキャラクターの心理が読み取れるのがいい 喫煙描写が地上波アニメから廃れて久しい

[@tomsug8317]

「吸い」じゃなくて「飲み」って言う表現が高い教養を表してますな。

[@pisanggoreng555]

the only mecha anime that make everyone think theyre military analyst because how good this mecha anime tried to be realistic combat vehicle

[@リベルラ]

「飲用しても無害」ということはポカリスエットのように「人に近い水分」ともとらえれるってことかな…それだけエグゾフレームが「地球上の生物に近い」ってことだな、手もほぼ人間っぽいし

[@KT-vm3wk]

か、違いすぎてて吸収すらされないとか？

[@リベルラ]

@@KT-vm3wk こう言っちゃあれなんだけど排泄とかはどうなるんだろう

[@KT-vm3wk]

@@リベルラ 確かに…まさか某深海魚みたいに…… いや、これはあまり考えたくないですね(苦笑)

[@リベルラ]

@@KT-vm3wk この話はよそう

[@KT-vm3wk]

@@リベルラ ですな

[@jakeifl0res]

Yay, finally I can watch it today Edit: >Trade earth resources for advanced (used) alien tech > Use alien tech for war Alien looked down upon us, probably saying we are just the same as every species.

[@ricoo1861]

I see in 2022 the USAF didn't migrate to OCP- and are still wearing the prelim tan boots rather than sage green. Nice to see ABU done right and SF get screentime though!

[@jaromswenson7541]

man, i can buy a few of these mechs. i want 3 in different camos. the most expensive thing is buying decent equipment. time to get busy buying that browing 50cal and rocket launcher lol.

[@isaiahgadil7697]

Buy the model kits

[@vivasiu]

肝は飲める液体という機械の概念を覆すシステム。完全にオーバーテクノロジー。海兵のエグゾにSemper Fi （常に忠誠を）っていう海兵のモットーが入っているのがいい。でも国防のために政府に抗うか。

[@ciyanttle9685]

てか、その内「二足歩行ロボットは浪漫だ！」とかいう天才（馬鹿とも言う）が出てきて、めちゃくちゃヤバいエグゾ作りそう（小並感

[@BAKENYAPPII]

You Tubeオリジナルで唯一好きなコンテンツ

[@bravoteam_101]

I feel like no matter how long I live anime will never get the military rank correct ever

[@anubhavrana6816]

Watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

[@benlex5672]

Dub problems. The original was fine.

[@w_ldan]

They will never get correct about everything, as long it look cool they do it

[@cliffevana.namare6914]

Even the sound of A-10 is kinda rip off haha

[@borischung01]

Don't watch the dub and you'll be fine

[@Bon-b]

プレミアム登録はこの作品の為！

[@tommy8271]

そういえばエグゾに搭乗せず稼働させている描写が前シリーズでありましたな・・・。まさかね・・・。 ペドラー「うわぁ、アレ飲んでるよ・・・」

[@Llanvabon]

公式サイトで「近距離までなら遠隔操作が可能」とあったので、そんなに不穏な要素ではないはず。 ただ最初に見たときはザーヒルが滅茶苦茶恐ろしい存在に見えました。

[@KylerTony45]

Equipment like that is a godsend. It’s like a little tank that’s really cheap and never runs out of energy. Replaceable parts like a Lego set. It can carry all your heavy equipment for you like a mule

[@Kalodizzz]

Это один из лучших сериалов про современные технологии войну и баланс силы. Продолжайте снимать. Большой респект!!!

[@rimdlav5790]

Как научная фантастика не очень,как что то другое возможно

[@Kalodizzz]

@@rimdlav5790 согласен, даже с натяжкой этот сериал нельзя назвать научной фантастикой. Дали простым пацанам за дёшево крутую игрушку и баланс в мире что-то трескаться начал.

[@bravo1823]

エグゾに本気で対抗するなら､地上部隊派遣よりも､空母機動部隊から発艦した戦闘機による絨毯爆撃で良いんじゃないかな? 完全に破壊出来なくても､足止めにはなるんじゃないかな? (エグゾを破壊するためにエグゾ単価の何倍もの費用がかかるけど) これってアゼル・アルメニア紛争で活躍したのドローンと立場が似てるな

[@まっさん-f8u]

数万ドルの無人兵器やUAVが有人の、それも数百万ドルもする戦車や戦闘機、ヘリを圧倒しようとしている今の軍事革新を意識しているんじゃないですかね。おそらくは

[@georgek14]

Loving this series, the attention to detail is mind-blowingly good. The only thought I have is, if there really was an alien technology sophisticated enough to effectively run off of a nanofluid and nothing else, why does it require a human operator? Especially as its operator is basically the suit's biggest and only weakness. Makes much more sense for them to be piloted/controlled remotely by satellite, as we essentially already have that RC tech in existence today. Remove the operator and you also remove the highly cumbersome, bulky 'backpack' looking container on the back of the frames, for the highly vulnerable and fragile human bodies inside. Lol.

[@iliadx7495]

Its not even machine for war, is human who used it for war, maybe in the alien planet they just used it as bicycle

[@Obsidian-Nebula]

It doesn't work remotely, You have to have human sitting on it for it to work. I'm pretty sure the aliens are giving those out for "free" and gonna wait few years for humanity to destroy Themselves. When humanity's gonna become completely dependant on those machines They, the aliens, will just turn them off. EXOs are weapons but used in different manner. It's like giving a grenade to monkey

[@TapRackBang516]

IDK they said the exo couldn't stand up to a 7.62 round after they got destroyed by an A-10. The A-10 fires 30mm depleted uranium rounds

[@kenred7192]

たまりません！この世界観！！！ FM世代にはたまりませんよ！ レイブン出てこないかな〜

[@松黒い人]

これで中古品てのが 質が悪い・・・・・ 〈新型〉もしくは〈標準〉の 機体はどんだけヤバイのか

[@仮面ワーカーディレイド]

エグゾブラスター・・・！！

[@moma9704]

異星人おそろしや

[@やまやらたな]

乗員が腰から生えたシートに座っているというのが良い(おんぶされている姿勢) お陰で上半身の動きが阻害されない

[@RiskyBRiskyB]

"why drink and drive when you could smoke an fly?"- Char Aznable

[@Andrei_Library]

This series is amazing

[@DanielMendoza-qq5pv]

So are the mechs basically "indestructible" as long as they can get anothet working part? I think they mentioned that they're alive

[@pillarmenn1936]

pretty sure they die. the "indestructible" part could be something like surgery where they replace parts

[@Hisnitch]

As long as they have 30% of the fluid, they can be repaired and reused in combat. The only sure fire way to put them down is to either wholly destroy the main exoframe body or killing the pilot.

[@tylertheotaku9270]

That scientist woman loves drinking Alien blood 😂

[@zhen1763]

Not really, the key is the power source based on 👽 based bio-gel. Basically just like flesh, if you throw a cruise missile at them that pretty much take them down, these exo frame bleeds just like any living organisms. Killing the operator will work, but completely wiped out takes more effort with ground forces without air support. Imagine fighting these things with average joe's m4 and Humvee, IAV, M1 abrams is not going to cut it.

[@jaquinhelp7298]

@@zhen1763 i agree with you but with small arms like M4 they might nickle it only depends if they use M995 5.56 but with M1 and Humvees with M2HB they can dispatch them in range. The infantry will have big problem though

[@Southerly93]

If I was in military weapons development, I would probably stick to an ultra light minimum armor chasis (just enough to stop .30 cal AP) and only pour resources into augmenting the perception and firepower characteristics. These exo frames with state of the art thermal optics, indirect fire capability, and/or long range auto Canon main armorment would be an absolute nightmare to deal with. It would excel in a light infantry, mountaineer, scout, and spec ops role. I still think heavy vehicles will have firepower and protection advantages that the exo frames can't match simply because they have a max carrying capacity. However, their weapons systems will have to change in order to deal with exo frames. I would see heavy auto cannons with huge range and accuracy being ideal to kill large numbers of exo frames. Remember, an exo with a moderately trained pilot is cheap, but not cheaper than a 30mm projectile.

[@montithered4741]

Mount a GAU-8 on a tank or similar vehicle. With fast, agile, and small targets, rapid fire and lots of ammo are key; see CIWS, CRAM, Quick Kill, Iron Dome.

[@Jun_Yutsuki]

飲んでも悪影響無いにしても常飲するなw

[@ラバーカップバーサーカー]

いずれ何か起きたりするかもよ アメリカのホラー映画でよくあるじゃん、「ほらな、大した事無いだろ？」が死亡フラグのやつ。

[@吾妻怜二-l5m]

自分を使った人体実験なんじゃない？

[@1974aflamazda]

@@ラバーカップバーサーカー スティーブ・マックイーン主演のSFホラー映画｢マックイーンの絶対の危機／人喰いアメーバの恐怖(原題:The Blob)｣を思い出したわ。

[@昼行灯ひるあんどん]

@@ラバーカップバーサーカー 研究員のお姉さんがエグゾフレームになっちゃったりして 他のも実は液体を飲まされた元は生身の生き物だったかも

[@romamoftomm36]

@@昼行灯ひるあんどん 俺はエグゾとめっちゃ共鳴する様になって、第一線で活躍するに一票

[@Schregger]

Fernando: ...We were told to speak up if we had good motor skills, brains, and looks... Translation, lets see who is stupid enough to raise their hand...

[@alphatriton6621]

I wonder how those things managed to survive multiple 30mm DU-tipped rounds and a JDAM, A-10 is still cool asf tho BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

[@kawaii_milkshake2160]

Well, from the show we saw that only the ones in the middle were hit with the 30mm and they just lost their arms/legs Edit: I rewatched and saw some got blown in half

[@battleshipfreez2344]

Not a JDAM - that was a AGM-65 Maverick (might be HE warhead though).

[@alphatriton6621]

@@battleshipfreez2344 yeah I didn't look at the payload under the wings and just assumed the explosion was from a JDAM

[@alphatriton6621]

@@kawaii_milkshake2160 yeah rewatching the scene some got torn apart by the impact, though it only seems to be at areas where the joints/body parts would connect to each other for some reason, might have to do with how they technically aren't brand new and are secondhanded as shown in the attack on the oil facility

[@sgtz4529]

Yeah the turn was way too fast tho it disobeyed the laws of physics

[@alesstrem]

Have you guys noted the ending theme iit ends different!?? That 1sr season ending has a guitar string sound very cool... On this one disappeared. Why I mention this? Because those kind of endings are timeless, they stuck in your head, and many years can pass and when you hear them again, you can evoque memories of your past and how cool was watch this series , either by drinking something warm in a cold night, or with a sun coming through your room window. Those kind of opening or endings mark many people and make of course convert this kind of Animations on classics!!!

[@ちくわぶドロボー]

フェムトレベルの「青い赤血球（矛盾）」ちゃんがエグゾフレーム内で働いていると思うとエモい。

[@rahmadiwidyanto8536]

Thank you bandai love from Indonesia

[@和也-h7x]

腰アーマーがカタカタ揺れる描写でご飯三杯はイケる

[@xmasoctober7902]

Premiumに入ってて良かった〜〜！！すげぇ優越感www

[@kagero_2105]

わかる、広告もねえしもう一般に戻れないや(ステマ)

[@何者でもない-n3e]

分かるマーン（ファミリープラン利用者）

[@ラバーカップバーサーカー]

無料体験なんて言えねえや(´・ω・｀)

[@カステラ-d1z]

@@ラバーカップバーサーカー これを機に会員になろうよ^_^

[@ラバーカップバーサーカー]

@@カステラ-d1z You Tubeはアドブロック入れたPCでしか見ないから、ワザワザ課金するほどの魅力って無いんだよね。 唯一の利点はこれみたいなプレミアム作品だけなんよ。

[@mattwoodard2535]

I wonder if drinking that gel is going to have some unforeseen consequences sometime down the line. sm

[@wolfflaarcen6476]

How could it not? Even more concerning is the fact that this incomprehensible alien technology is so similar to and compatible with human physiology. They're even mostly built to a human form factor. Super suspicious IMO.

[@guycross493]

*drinks alien juice that may or may not mutate you into a superhuman*

[@БогданКрименюк]

Doctor Freeeeeeemaaaaaaaannnnnnn

[@handy333]

drink the blue liquid and human evolve to become exoframe

[@aguyontheinternet8146]

@@handy333 no exoframe return to monke

[@金田徳之]

それにしても、リアルだなぁ～👀❗

[@ashian_boiyo9712]

me: sees A 10 also me: *BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTT*

[@m_akos567]

The A-10"s GAU-8 Avenger fires 30mm projectiles not 7,62 surprised no one pointed this out.

[@この笑い男の画像真ん中に持]

なるほど異星人技術なのになんで地球人類の兵器で壊れたりするのかと思ってたけど、 パーツ交換がしやすいように付け外し可能なのがある程度の衝撃で全体的に吹っ飛んでるだけなんやね 各パーツ自体が潰れたりすることはないみたいだし

[@霧雨魔理沙-k9j]

何故だろうこのアニメを見たら「だいじょぶだ問題ない｣が頭に過りました

[@ヘシャゲル]

人体に影響ないって、絶対人類には解析不能な何かが入ってるだろｗ

[@namahumoti]

そりゃ虚淵ですからね…

[@H230128]

@@namahumoti 化け物の正体は人間だった（定番）

[@ゲームサバイバー-o1f]

闘争させて自滅させたいのかもな

[@gerogo9907]

y que seria eso?

[@雉猫機械化装甲師団]

石灰岩1トンと一体を交換だっけか 日本なら麻生セメントを親族に持つ麻生太郎が私的軍団持てるなぁ そういうの好きそうだし

[@モンモン-g7y]

いや、日本なら秋元が48体揃えてアイドル候補生乗せてEXO48作るぞ。

[@ikana-3818]

@@モンモン-g7y それは草

[@ngc-bbb2978]

EXO48は流石に草

[@ゲームサバイバー-o1f]

@@モンモン-g7y 凄い平和的な使い方

[@collindee8370]

im impressed, they actually managed to easily point out the bs in the american war machine better than any american ive heard so far, good job!

[@러시아를좋아하는의대]

Well, at least now we know what is really in area 51

[@いっそげー間に合わんぞ牛丼を最]

A-10のエンジン音ターボファンだからあんな音しない

[@serau16]

結局何も分からない。けれど誰にとっても強い武器なら富める者が富める力を活かして優位に立てばいい。 そういう思想か。割り切った考え方だけれど間違いではない。 ただそれは、差を埋められることは容認することにもなりかねなくなっている。 誰かがエグゾフレームによる戦闘技術をばら撒いているせいで。 富める者はその差をじわじわと埋められている……。 そして、海兵隊は行動に出た訳か。 ガビアルの人型ゆえの格闘訓練もなかなかステキだ……。

[@赤字赤字]

エグゾ単体だと安価だけどその整備の方が高く付くんすね〜

[@市村ブリスケ]

FALLOUT４でパワーアーマーと言うパワードスーツが出て来るけれど正にそれ。外殻に殆どのオプションパーツを依存するから被弾して耐久無くなったらパージ、レアリティが上がると整備に要求されるジャンクが高価になるから一苦労・・・。楽しいからいいけど、成程手間がかかる機体をぶっ壊されて発狂する整備員さん達の心が分かったよ。

[@潮鳥]

そもそも整備必要なのか

[@すーぱー醤油さん]

本体は買い換えた方が安い、というより整備らしい整備は人間には不可能 外装の整備も電子系統ぐらいで装甲は取り替えるしかなさそう

[@Llanvabon]

@@市村ブリスケ 「レイバー川に落としたバカはどうしたぁ！」

[@2990117]

損傷した部位をもぎ取って代わりのパーツ付ければ良いんだし、むしろその整備性こそ頭おかしいレベルで優れてる 地球にある従来の普通の機械じゃこんな乱暴な整備はまず出来ない そして、スペアパーツとなるエグゾは一体1万円そこそこで幾らでも手に入る

[@Zippsterman]

4:33 As a researcher I can confirm that pizza and beer are essential components in the advancement of science

[@deadchamp6579]

If the exoframes work with the liquid, how did they hook up the camear heads so that it corresponds to the subtle eye and head movements of the operator? And in the factory made exo's, you would nornally hold onto the handle to control the exo. But the Area 51 protoypes' handles aren't connected with the exoframe?

[@khanhbonmat]

If you watch the previous ep, the big guy with sniper frame didn't touch his frame, he's outside the frame and his frame mimic, shoot the sniper rifle as the owner control, like neural link or something, so the area51 prototype in this ep look not that high tech lol

[@MEGATRYANT]

The add-ons like armor and cameras are all human-made and independent from the EXOFRAME. They also have handles, but are inside the armored pod in the back.

[@lucian-villasenor]

You get a like for the Spurs reference.

[@ver-dl6vb]

何度でも言うがOPが格好良すぎる！(゜Д゜)

[@WilliamShinal]

I liked this episode. A friendly scrap to test out the new EXOFRAMEs.