EPIC Grand Finals - $5000 Reaver Rush! STARCRAFT 1 vs STARCRAFT 2

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@WinterStarcraft 5 ай бұрын

Jimmy screwed up on posting early before the video finished processing, so the first viewers will get the chance to experience this epic finals in glorious, nostalgic and lore accurate 360p quality!

@thingmabobby 5 ай бұрын

Dammit Jimmy!

@marinav3905 5 ай бұрын

Lol, just spent the last few minutes trying to figure out if it was just me 😂 Thanks, Jimmy

@carlthegamer9215 5 ай бұрын

Lmfao, i was gonna say exactly that.

@THEonelikeantiher0 5 ай бұрын

Jimmy ffs.

@ShikiKhorinthian 5 ай бұрын

Will he be forced to watch Protoss vs Protoss for 24h again as punishment? 🥶

@HighGroovyy 5 ай бұрын

This seems so fully fleshed out and very natural to watch. As a Starcraft 2 enthusiast and a mere Starcraft 1 dabbler, this was so refreshing to watch! Shout out Winter for being able to cast such different games!

@radred609 5 ай бұрын

It's so interesting seeing the different designs interacting in the same engine.

@HighGroovyy 5 ай бұрын

The most important part of this mod: Winter gets to voice FLYING queens

@catbert7 5 ай бұрын

...If they ever make any ;p

@missbelled6700 5 ай бұрын

"back before the war I could fly / ok brenda lets get you back onto creep" is my favorite sc2 meme so this is huge lmfao

@RyanRoss-d6z 5 ай бұрын

I spent my school days watching SC1 tournaments on my cell phone. I had to download the videos overnight and re-encode them to play them back on my phone... at 160p. This is a lore accurate rendition of SC1 games.

@Ben-bs6qv 5 ай бұрын

🛡️ Spoiler Shield 🛡️

@ShikiKhorinthian 5 ай бұрын

Hell yeah SC1 like it was meant to be watched In 360P

@BalrogLOTR2001 5 ай бұрын

Winter: saw a random cow in one of the maps. Winter: "they didn't tell me your mother was coming..." me: insta coffee spit! lol..

@robrechtds 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for this Winter, I was hesitant at first for SC1 vs SC2, but it's so cool! The SC1 sound effects (e.g. zergling attacks) are pure nostalgia.

@benismann 5 ай бұрын

never played sc1, but the hatchery completion sound is.... something

@chrishaywood2458 5 ай бұрын

You should hear the Overlords when you move them around. It's not very gross but heavily iconic. @@benismann

@hortexpert5272 5 ай бұрын

"Dark sticking to the normal playbook, that is, setting the playbook on fire and throwing the ashes in his opponents' faces." 😂🤝🙌

@catbert7 5 ай бұрын

Pocket ash! 🔥💨

@marchlion6008 5 ай бұрын

LMFAO "you can't let the zerg in, they're not sending their best" had me rolling 47:15

@marinav3905 5 ай бұрын

I've never been more grateful for Winter's detailed commentary. Feels like I'm watching this without my glasses 🧐

@dominanoctis388 5 ай бұрын

Love what you did there, switching from terrible terrible damage to (power) overwhelming damage😆😆

@metarmored 5 ай бұрын

this was a blast to watch! i just found your chanel last month, and started playing sc2 thanks to you

@stalwart56k 5 ай бұрын

Bless you my child. I've been playing since 1997.

@otbricki 5 ай бұрын

"I digress" - your digressions are the best part.

@Owlr4ider 5 ай бұрын

I'm shocked Trap completely ignored the Corsair, considering that this unit has always been the backbone of PvZ strategies in Broodwars, whether it's Corsair + Reaver or Corsair + Dark Templars which were hands down the 2 main PvZ strategies.

@NeostormXLMAX 3 ай бұрын

Scourge are much stronger with starcraft 2 targeting, and he did build cosairs, they were worse than pheonix

@Owlr4ider 3 ай бұрын

@@NeostormXLMAX Corsairs worse than Phoenix? Are you for real? You do realize Corsairs had a much higher attack speed and also a small AoE right...? Also Disruption Web is not to be underestimated at all.

@gustavomolinari7522 3 ай бұрын

We can really feel Blizzards spirit and passion in StarCraft I. Compared to II, there is so much more. First and foremost, sound effects sounded alien, futurist and powerful. In SC II, all sound effects and most of the voices were just lame. In SCI, modern warfare tactics were ignored, but the game was so dynamic we could circumvent it. In SC II, units felt like a parody of the first, and Blizzard didn't take them serious, feeling them with easter eggs and inside jokes. SC I ambience had a feeling of exploration and delving into the unknown, no matter how many times you played. The soundtrack was amazing. In SC II, ambience was just blunt!

@Olagfigh 3 ай бұрын

Agree. SC II WoL was promising, Terrans music was good, sounds effects were "ok" at most and gameplay was also fine. Many sounds, most for Protoss, were very bad. Dying Zealot sound for example... it's terrible in SC II. Just terrible. I could make a better one at home. Campaign was awesome, but the story in it was terrible. Raynor wasn't in love with Kerrigan. Kerrigan was a villain and Zeratul was not a War3 Medivh. It's all just ruined from the plot perspective. And these expansions... Damn, these were terrible for SC II. New units were some absurd.. Zerg throwing fireballs? Wtf? Are Zergs sorcerers now? That Protoss ball that shots some energy balls? Wtf again it is? Dark Templars with scythes? Did any of SC II devs realize that scythes were used years ago to mow grain? Mines shooting rockets for Terrans? Jumping Battlecruisers? All of that is just stupid and like you said - feels like a parody. I wish that War1, War2 and SC1 devs made more RTS games in Blizzard, before WoW came out and changed that company for worse.

@gustavomolinari7522 3 ай бұрын

@@Olagfigh you've nailed it. The first Blizzard game I played, was The Lost Vikings. Then, Warcraft I. Everything which came from Blizzard was inspired AND inspiring. Their team at the time could not care less. They would put Satan worshipers in Diablo and Give a Satanic feel to the orcs, too. When WOW came, and big profits came, the main team, the founders, were sidestepped. Shareholders started to have a lot of saying. But hey, the games were racking millions. I could not believe my eyes when I saw that they made the Goliath, a baddass, no-nonsense lieutenant from SCI, into a parody of one of their employees. Made the Thor a ripoff of Schwarzenegger. Made Mengsk go viral on Space CNN, the Zerg loose all their bestiality, the blood and gore was gone, units would turn to charcoal black once killed. They would not even slowly decompose on the battlefield anymore! Or stay there forever, as in Diablo games.

@gustavomolinari7522 3 ай бұрын

@@Olagfigh Blizzard was not without faults. They has a terrible urge to tutor every love of players in multiplayer, effectively negating any creative tactic players would create. They've messed big time, and payed the price, with DOTA. It came to being as a custom map in WCIII. Come on. They were too arrogant to see the game was growing beyond even their control. But, what Blizzard has become, it's disgusting. After WC III reforged, Diablo Immortal and the accusations of rape, suicide and sexual assault, It was a dead company for me.

@hieunguyenminh5738 5 ай бұрын

frustrating to see Trap whiffed his oppotunity to do the maelstrom + storm combo in that first game

@Appletank8 5 ай бұрын

I'm like 90% sure the Protoss answer to Hydras is mass Cannons and Storm. Though I'm not sure how well SC2 Protoss can get Storm. Maybe Trap needed to just get more army when he saw Dark massing Hydras.

@TheRealCalPerr 5 ай бұрын

@@Appletank8 storm is the standard answer to 4-hatch hydra but zerg tend to try and hit before it's ready so it ends up being mass cannons and zealots. Reaver/disruptor can work too

@scottevensen2615 5 ай бұрын

32:22 the Reavers! Such devastation! 👌😤🔥

@Haigotron 5 ай бұрын

Brood wars: Reavers are clutch SC1 vs SC2: Reavers are clutch

@NeostormXLMAX 3 ай бұрын

Reavers are broken due to auto targeting in star craft 2

@tylerkahle332 5 ай бұрын

I like the suit coat. The most professional Winter caster

@personpeoplehime 5 ай бұрын

Petition to rename the game Darkcraft 2

@IsThisHandleTaken 5 ай бұрын

Damn I love seeing the old school units make the difference! It is so goddamn cool that top tier players are doing this. Reavers are just a work of art.

@tonydeveyra4611 5 ай бұрын

I get that much of the hype behind SC:Evo is pitting BW races against SC2 races, but I think they should show matches of BW races vs BW races, too. Merely being in the SC2 engine makes BW races feel like an entirely new, fresh game.

@christopherpatricklizares5306 5 ай бұрын

Looking at the other comments, I'm really happy to be watching this three hours after it came out. In glorious high definition.

@Seisure33 4 ай бұрын

i love a crisp, maxed graphics demo, not to mention the casting :x

@weaponizedemoticon1131 5 ай бұрын

I do like that the balance actually seems pretty on point, even at the professional level!

@Gardstyle35 5 ай бұрын

have you watched the same games as i did?

@benismann 5 ай бұрын

early game for sc1 races seems rough. Dark literally full walls as ZERG in both games he wins

@Gardstyle35 5 ай бұрын

@@benismann sc1 was just a better game, more about fights lets about turtleling and gimmicky units

@benismann 5 ай бұрын

@@Gardstyle35 it's the exact opposite

@Gardstyle35 5 ай бұрын

@@benismann no lol, i played it for years. Take PVT for example, constantly terra building up and protoss tearing it down. Greatest matchup in history - today its about a stupid mine drop that if hit shoots once into your worker line means you probably lost...

@PetarStamenkovic 3 ай бұрын

Great games! Thank you for sharing! These games play into my bias that protoss in sc2 is very weak. They have many high apm options to defend, but it's so much easier to a move as a race that has good units. SC2 toss crumbles easily.

@jimmyha1898 5 ай бұрын

This was an amazing tournament. Awesome games. I hope there are more tournaments like this.

@LUX711 5 ай бұрын

Do a video explaining the differences btw SC1 & SC2 units. I’m lost looking at these SC1 units like what do they even do

@Appletank8 5 ай бұрын

Here's a simple overview, check SC BW liquid wiki for more details Terran Marines: Basically the same, but with less HP, and slightly stronger Stim Medic: Medevac on the ground, comes out much earlier, gives Bio a strong early game boost Firebat: Ye Olde Hellbat. Less HP than Marauders, Anti-light instead of Armored. Ghost: Extremely fragile unit but carries Nukes and Lockdown, I-Matrix that also stuns. Vulture: Ye Olde Hellion. Single target attack instead of splash, carries 3 mines that does 120 anti-armor damage each. Tank: Basically the same, but 2 supply Goliath: anti-air generalist Dropship: It transports, kinda slow. Wraith: Cloaked harrasment unit, but does much more AA than AG damage Valkyrie: Anti-"fighter" air specialist via Splash damage. Less useful on high HP, high armor units. Battlecruiser: more Hp, more damage, lower ROF, very slow. Carries Yamato Science vessel: detector, spellcaster. D-Matrix: gives allied unit 200HP shield. Irradiate: ~250 DOT against biological. EMP: Wipes all shield and energy in AOE, projectile slow. Protoss Zealot: slower, but more HP Dragoon: slower, more range, more HP, slightly better damage. High Templar: Caster, Storm does 112 damage, Hallucinate. Archon: 2 HT, shorter range Dark Templar: Same but no teleport Dark Archon: 2 DTs, caster. Maelstrom: stuns any bio unit for 9 seconds. Feedback: same thing Reaver: Disruptors but much higher ROF and much lower movement speed. costs money per shot. Shuttle: it transports Observer: same thing, but not "siege" mode. Scout: similar to Wraith, but with more HP instead of cloak. Strong AA, weak AG. Very expensive. Similar in usage to Void Rays. Corsair: Protoss counterpart to Valkyries Carrier: basically the same Arbiter: passive cloak field, Recall similar to Mothership Recall, Stasis: freezes units for 40 seconds Zerg Zergling: slightly more DPS Hydra: lower HP, lower cost, slightly less damage, 1 supply Mutalisk: basically the same but no regen Scourge: flying single target Baneling Lurker: Morphs from Hydra, less range and HP Queen: flying spellcaster. Parasite: enemy unit gives vision, single target perma Revelation. Ensnare: slows movement and ROF in AOE. Infest CC: Turns 50% or lower HP CC into Infested CC that make Infested Terrans, which do 500 dmg on death. Expensive, fragile, not very fast. Guardian: Morphs from Muta, siege AG unit, but fragile and lower DPS than BLs Devourer: Morphs from Muta: reduces armor and ROF against air, slow ROF itself. Defiler: spellcaster, Consume: eats any 1 unit for 50 energy. Dark Swarm: Reduces all ranged attacks to 0, doesn't work against spells or splash damage. Plague: does 300 dmg or until unit is down to 1 HP in an AOE

@benismann 5 ай бұрын

someone should make a video on that

@Beep2bleep 5 ай бұрын

I have to admit I really like the sport coat. It's amazing how an outfit really changes perception.

@junhaozhang6915 5 ай бұрын

I LOOOVE these! Love proper pros on this!!!!!

@mikelnazkauta1317 2 ай бұрын

Amazing hold by Trap on game 3. Damn. Dark with the Hydra spam.

@TheGreenRoundBirb 5 ай бұрын

Let us enjoy this starcraft match together❤❤

@calmdownson 5 ай бұрын

Petition to change Dark's name from The Final Boss to the Kool-Aid Man

@ja31ya 5 ай бұрын

"and snow globes" -- absolutely killed me 😂

@catbert7 5 ай бұрын

12:50: My disappointment is immense and my day is ruined. 28:55: That was so perfect xD 31:08: Was there a tribe sacrificing cattle to a T-Rex on this planet? 🤔 39:12: **BREAKING: Trap trapped in own trap!** SO happy that this mod is getting a tourny! It makes the game so much more interesting!

@BarringtonDrive 5 ай бұрын

They animated the blue splatterdeath of the dragoons! So cool!

@yyl917cn 5 ай бұрын

I want Starcarft 1 vs Starcraft 1 in SC2

@kbab679 5 ай бұрын

Watching SC1 Protoss beat SC2 Zerg was satisfying!

@hexaquras9374 5 ай бұрын

if this get more and more popular soon we'll have that flash vs serral in the future HOPIUM

@sursurrus 5 ай бұрын

I've heard that too much screen time can lead to memory loss, blackouts, schizophrenia, multiple personality, and eventually talking like Winter's grandmother

@Royalgecko-zp8zd 5 ай бұрын

snow globes XD love seeing the sc1 vs sc2 content!

@darkbut8864 5 ай бұрын

The Final Boss does what the Final Boss knows what to do kill the enemy, sad that he will go to army.

@Ocean_magic_om 4 ай бұрын

omg i love this so much! we need a ladder for this!

@Fiasc0Z0rus 2 ай бұрын

Wtfff! This SC1 mod is the most satisfying thing ive seen in a while!!! I used to download and watch sc1 replays from.....what was the site again....WT something?? Watching those crazy Boxer replays! Seeing sc1 into sc2 graphics is amazing!! Why dont blizzard actually make something out of this?? Activision really killed blizzard that bad hu?

@TheOrganicartist 5 ай бұрын

once again i liked the video because of your intro, thanks for reminding my adhd brain.

@hanarielgodlike9283 5 ай бұрын

Emotional support force fields 😂😂😂

@yertter 5 ай бұрын

Plz cast all this stuff, love it🎉

@Justthemow 5 ай бұрын

0:44 if it’s really star craft one can he merge the two archons together to make a dark arc on and mind control a drone and run two different races simultaneously

@HighGroovyy 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this

@paulembleton1733 5 ай бұрын

Suffering Winter’s commentary is a little bit better than suffering….um, just suffering.

@carllazarraga2858 5 ай бұрын

Dark didnt even attempt to use queens, defilers or lurkers in that second game lol. He just made disrupter food.

@iwakuralain3064 5 ай бұрын

Darks damage estimation seems a little off against sc1 units

@thijsjong 2 ай бұрын

In the SC2 engine flying hnits have less tendency to clump. So thecorsairs plash damage area should be slightly larger. No scourge though. Could hunt overlords all day and force zerg to built spores?

@davidstud3952 5 ай бұрын

oh no I wanted to see PLAGUE so badly

@Mike-fl3zx 5 ай бұрын

Hoping this will be the beginning for a Startcraft 4 game based on multiverse or time travel.

@PJOZeus 5 ай бұрын

no thanks, marvel can keep that garbage

@FirstName-nf4fx 5 ай бұрын

@30:03 I sure hope that scout makes it out okay... looks like low hp wonder if it's gonna make it? WinterStarcraft: busy with his exhausting bit.

@arankoka 5 ай бұрын

how does "explosive" damage work for example goons? or the other damage from vultures? how does it calculate, does someone know?

@DrDev1L 3 ай бұрын

SC2 has "armor" system, units can be light armored, heavy armored, or not having armor tag at all. So basically it's light = small size, unarmored = medium, heavy = large. Hydra in BW is medium unit and here it has no armor tag. Damage wise units deals regular damage + bonus damage to either armor tag on top.

@elgar7252 5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately didn't get to see much of it here, but I enjoy the larger map aspect of the SC1 maps with SC2 races. It feels like it forces the armies to split up more and fight on 3 or 4 fronts with smaller groups. I understand that would be horrible for Zerg early-game in Sc2 but, still like it. Also how busted would SC2 Protoss be if you replaced Disruptors with Reavers? 😂

@cathulionetharn5139 5 ай бұрын

Thank You Om nom nom

@evshrug 5 ай бұрын

Woo! In before 480p resolution and above, haha!

@byebyeblue 5 ай бұрын

Really Love this mod, hope the modder can balance it out.

@llamadelreyii3369 5 ай бұрын

The way people react to any attempt to make the SC1 more viable, i doubt

@Gorre022 5 ай бұрын

Man these sc1 skins look incredible 🤩 those mootas

@BigHeadClan 5 ай бұрын

Can SC2 Protoss trade disruptors for reavers please? It makes so much more sense with how much faster units move in SC2.

@squigglessquiggles8126 5 ай бұрын

Hey just to let you know I like watching you with my kids because you are family friendly and you are not cringe.

@ZC.Andrew 5 ай бұрын

Even the weaker wet-noodle Hydralisks still annihilate Stalkers 😂

@koshi6505 2 ай бұрын

You know things have gone poorly when a scout is made.

@davidbai3543 5 ай бұрын

they shoulda added the hybrid as a playable race in sc2 IMO

@weaponizedemoticon1131 5 ай бұрын

I still want the critters to become a faction. The Karak need their revenge!

@PJOZeus 5 ай бұрын

What workers? What buildings? No not an option

@Appletank8 5 ай бұрын

That would basically require making everything from scratch

@oponomo 5 ай бұрын

Feels to me that the sc1 races are very limited in strategy compared to 2. The game loop is always the same.

@daPawlak 5 ай бұрын

I guess we will see once meta settles, it's sc2 engine, sc2 races get everything they have, with sc1 it's just a kind of similar to actual game, in reality it is a new thing that sc1 players need to figure out. In actual sc1 there are much more strategies, but this comes from a lot of stuff like control limitations of old game.

@joshuaher8386 5 ай бұрын

Is this mod on custom melee? I would like to try it out with my buddies.

@turbozed 5 ай бұрын

This must be the other EVO mod with SC1 graphics instead

@lorddryp 5 ай бұрын

Starcraft 1 Archon model is amazing! Much better than SC2. And the unit seems to be stroger with higher speed attack.

@fongtaiyuk1462 5 ай бұрын

Smashing that Like button!

@elimosh3898 4 ай бұрын

Hi, where can I download this map/mode ?

@bigbakaboon 5 ай бұрын

This is all i wanted, was brood war in the SC2 engine. Maybe i can come back now? Is this a custom game i can download or what, a mod?

@benismann 5 ай бұрын

it's a mod

@bigbakaboon 5 ай бұрын

@@benismann thanks for the reply. Is it something you download through the game client or is it 3rd party?

@benismann 5 ай бұрын

@@bigbakaboon honestly - idk, haven't tried. But you do not have to download it that's for sure, you just need to choose it when hosting a melee map i think

@bigbakaboon 5 ай бұрын

@@benismann fuuuuuuu i might have to reinstall my blizz launcher then. But then again if it's just for skirmishes, i might not.

@Ocean_magic_om 4 ай бұрын

can anybody please tell me where i can whats the whole tournamet?

@Mrhealy0girl 4 ай бұрын

Lmao. The "STFU!" @ susan 😂

@kelmorian178 5 ай бұрын

Sc1 Zealot in sc2 walking animation looks similar to Karax LOTV.

@朕是神 5 ай бұрын

A +2 BW hydra does the same dps against light units as a +0 unstimmed SC2 marine. They're both slower, and have less hp per resource cost than marines. I'm pretty sure SC2 chargelots will wreck them, and it wouldn't even be close.

@Leonhart_93 5 ай бұрын

Per resource cost but not per population, since they are a 1 population unit, about half the cost of a stalkers. And yes, zealots countered hyrdas in SC1 as well, but only in smaller numbers. In the later parts of the game, zerglings and lurkers become the meat of the army.

@pasoapasoconmervo6734 5 ай бұрын

It is posible to play sc1 vs sc1 in sc2?? cus everything i see is sc1 vs sc2 matches. It would be great to see sc1 matches in sc2

@DermoNONE 5 ай бұрын

It is possible, the last match was blind pick both could have picked SC1 or SC2 version of their race. But yeah, would be fun to see more SC1 vs SC1 matchups on this mod.

@spacemonkey6532 5 ай бұрын

Hi do u ever cast (supreme commander forged alliance?! )

@krot464 5 ай бұрын

Hey guys any help on how this gamemode can be played and where I can find it?

@taydon221 5 ай бұрын

It's a mod in the game. On lobby creation you can choose this mod

@igap7707 5 ай бұрын

I'm so early only the 360p version is available :D

@laszlobebesi4186 5 ай бұрын

why not use corsairs agains those mutas at min 10-12?

@LordMephilis 5 ай бұрын

Woohoo! I do like me a good ol Hydra bust!

@VeryBadPlayerTV 5 ай бұрын

Been saying it for a very long time. Since the mod released. Please just add it to the base game, and add patches. This alone could save the game. Add other mechanics to the game or other fun things maybe make "seasons" out of it where we can try some wild shit for like 2-3 months and revert it after the small season is over. See what helps the game get better and what made it worse.

@benismann 5 ай бұрын

imagine blizzard putting any work into this game lol

@VeryBadPlayerTV 5 ай бұрын

@@benismann They really don't have to put a lot of work in, just port the mod. The game at this point is dead because of the community itself. Winter has said it himself the balance counsel just doesn't agree on changes, nothing about this game changes, and theres no reason to come back. Because its the same exact game 0 changes.