Epic Judo vs Aikido (Black Belt Sparring)

[@dariodesansebastian]

Friendly neighbourhood judo black belt here! Thanks for the shoutout! Here you have the Japanese names of the techniques used, and a bit of info! In judo, there are nuances that are extremely difficult to appreciate unless youre in. One of the most important aspects of judo is gripping, and the grip fight. The guard used in 0:08 is to prevent your opponent from grabbing your lapel, giving you an advantage. 0:24 Osoto gari, or leg reap. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mV6kkKGGbNJ-d8U He didn't manage to reap the whole leg, so it could also be a osoto otoshi (dropping reap) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHXWh6l6rJyVbsk Note how he broke his balance perfectly from a dominant grip, the aikido guy fell almost on his own. 0:45 I have dabbled in Aikdo, so correct me my Aikido bros if I'm mistaken.They usually pair those escapes with a wrist lock (like kote gaeshi kzbin.info/www/bejne/op2UeHawoZl1rsk or a throw, like irimi nage kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4maap2pqq1gjLc 1:15 the example of grip fighting that I commented on at the beginning. If you notice, he grabbed the Aikido guy, but with his guard he's not allowing him to get a grip. Then you can see in 1:20 the best example of dominant grip. In that moment you feel that you're not able to move and you can't control your movements. That leads to: 1:38 Double leg sweep, or okuri ashi harai. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKiUi5eIn9eXiKs It's one of my personal favourite judo throws, when it works out you feel invincible. You did call it, well done!! 2:04 and 2:09 More dominant grip from the Judo guy! 2:11 He used a renraku waza or combination of two techniques. He went for kosoto gake (hook to the back of the leg) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpOZnIxqqJmtfpY and then he used his reaction to go for ouchi gari (inner leg reap) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZprXe3mei56jerM This was perfectly executed, props to our Judo guy 3:32 Judo guy using feints to prepare the real throw 3:45 Yoko tomoe nage, or sideways sacrifice throw kzbin.info/www/bejne/b17FqpabhM6ZjtE he continued with an armbar or (long ass Japanese name) ude higishi juji gatame (cross armbar) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Znm1o4BsrrJ0q9E Once we all say that the Aikido guy is trash, I wanna point out that there are a lot of the aikido wrist locks that are awfuly effective and used in Judo (we have them for self defence, you start to learn that once you get to black belt). The issue with aikido is that it's more of a perfect scenario theory analysis of the dynamics of a throw/lock. If they added real escenarios and pressure, they'd be more than good. I do agree with what you said. Judo has been watered down by competition, old school Judo was a match and we could even argue that they were better than BJJ guys, as they were amazing with throws, as they were with Ne-Waza. Now that everyone is doing competition (Judo has 5 ways of training, only one of them is competition) they only think about the rules, so the ne waza is trash, that's why a bjj black belt nowadays is a tough match for an average judo black belt that doesn't take it seriously. BJJ guys should learn about our throws and transitions, we definitely must learn about their chokes! I'm happy I could help you see the nuances of grip fighting, it's essential Judo know-how that is unknown by most of the people! Cheers!

[@FightCommentary]

Now I’m looking up Renraku Waze to see what technique combos judokas often train.

[@dariodesansebastian]

@@FightCommentary kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5i8dICNZbybbtk There are many videos on that topic, Shintaro Higashi has amazing content!

[@K0DIG0]

Práctico aikido y lo único que puedo decir, muy mal el aikidoka... no esta en buen estado físico, no tiene tecnica... en fin. Aikido tiene muchas tecnicas de proyecciones o derribos pero este tipo no supo meter ninguna. Bien por el judoka.

[@dariodesansebastian]

@@K0DIG0 Cierto! La verdad es que tenéis buenas luxaciones de muñeca y buenos derribos!

[@Seven-not-Six]

Thank you^^ for this information. Aikido probably needs to be more proactive with defense. In order to throw you, they have to grab you. I'm taught to address the attacks at step one... In grappling, this is the grab.

[@silkplayer9]

The Judoka is being super NICE here.

[@FightCommentary]

Yep

[@jrubis]

@@FightCommentary ive been binging ur judo videos and i like how now ur at the point where u know all the terms and throws. it's like i'm learning alongside you when i watch these videos

[@yesitsme6]

judo vs trust me bro

[@pastlast158]

That Aikido dude is basically just a grappling dummy.

[@johnpauljones9310]

It's not really fair to him since Judokas are constantly working against a trained opponent who doesn't want to be thrown (competition) or at least makes you earn the throw in randori (practice). Aikido just doesn't have the kind of practical application.

[@pastlast158]

@@johnpauljones9310 That's the point I tried to make.

[@johnpauljones9310]

@@pastlast158 I gave the reason for your correct conclusion. 🤣

[@pastlast158]

@@johnpauljones9310 👍😀😀

[@AnGhaeilge]

Covering your lapel is judo 101. You never want to give someone dominant grips over you. Aikido guy like most aikidoka when they do randori with a judoka find out that we don't tumble for you in judo, if you want to throw us - you're going to have to earn it. This video is just a display of controlling the grips. Aikido guy never had to grip-fight in his life, clearly.

[@FightCommentary]

Is there a judo word for that covering your lapel guard?

[@farkinarkin5099]

Yeah. Watching Olympics Judo, it seemed like 90% of the bout was establishing and blocking dominant grips. Not sure if Aikido guy could do anything aside from trying to avoid sweeps… then Judoka exploits that avoidance into a sacrifice throw. Still not convinced that Aikido has any real value over any other grappling art.

[@leonardomarquesbellini]

The tomiki aikido guys had the right idea. Learning the old Jujutsu techniques that Aikido preserved is valid, but you still need to practice in a way similar to what Judo does: lots and lots of randori and a competitive element to test yourself.

[@elenchus]

@@didjitalone9544 It's also just early aikido (aikijujutsu). Most of the students who founded their own aikido schools prior to WW2 teach a different style of aikido than those after WW2. What people generally called aikido today is basically aikikai or similar offshoots, which in some sense is the equivalent of kodokan judo or shotokan karate, the sort of official lineage of the modern foundational figure of these three styles.

[@sieciobywatel]

​@@farkinarkin5099in my experience with a couple months of dedicated practice it is quite easy to counter attempts of beginner or intermediate judoka, up to green belts. They are easy to be baited and commit to one technique at a time, then get frustrated easily, when they are countered in a way they're not used to. More experienced judokas, on the other hand, are able to adapt quickly and use combinations, that were way too much for me. In this video the Judo guy is way more experienced. Aikidoka, on the other hand, should know better than to wait for an attack and use atemi to bait it on his own terms.

[@HybridMMAExtreme]

That judoka was holding back and being friendly he could finish off the aikido guy anytime if he really wanted to.

[@jaredberryman-hivelead]

Loved how you showcased the differences between Judo and Aikido in a live setting. It’s amazing how much you can learn by breaking it down in slow motion.

[@gerardhart9052]

The 'ju' in judo means harmony, flexible or accommodating although it is usually translated as gentle. 'Aki' is very similar in meaning. They are both jui jitsu styles the difference is that judo practices against resisting opponents while Aikido is typically practiced with compliant partners.

[@samuraiartguy]

The Judoka’s defense was just about impeccable and very well suited to not giving the Aikidoist any opening to either enter or to joint manipulations such as kote-gaeshi. Denying the Akido player any opening for his techniques, by never over extending, or projecting energy, he just had to hold his center and wait for opportunities to perform classic Judo techniques. Nicely done.

[@sieciobywatel]

Indeed. Pleasure to watch.

[@1_Bad_Z]

I have an extensive background in Judo. I also have trained and competed in Karate tournaments and I have cross trained in Catch Wrestling. Having said that, this is what I noticed. The guard with hands that you mentioned is common in Judo players as when you wearing a Gi. You keep your hands short. Not fully extended in order to keep not only your Gi from being grabbed but also your hands, wrist, and arms. The one thing I noticed that I'm puzzled with is that when the Judo stylist grabbed the Aikido guy from his uniform, I didn't see Aikido stylist immediately going for a wrist lock. Same hand/ same side. He could have done this numerous times and gotten a submission. I'm thinking it's a lack of experience or a different Aikido style that goes thru forms rather than function. I remember on Viking Samurai's channel. I believe his name was Prince. A former student of Steven Seagal. Prince said that when he attended a certain Aikido school, he could tell that it wasn't what he had seen Seagal doing. For anyone actually familiar with Seagal's style. His Aikido is very dynamic as he was exposed and trained in Japan during the 70's. Much different that what you would see here in the States. Nevertheless; this was interesting, as what, i just shared is not criticism but rather constructive criticism. I'm till this day learning, even though I've been training since 1991.

[@harinezumi7389]

Always love a good Judo video! Judoka uses his hand to pull his lapel back in order to make it more difficult for aikidoka to get that grip. Much love from the Judo community!

[@FightCommentary]

Im so happy this video is reaching judokas! Please comment more! Where do you guys hide? Why does BJJ always take over every town in the US and Canada?

[@harinezumi7389]

@@FightCommentary If you're looking for channels alot of judo guys hide at, I'd reccomend Chadi; a French judoka who really knows his stuff! His content is similar in spirit to yours, it wouldn't surprise me if there was an overlap in audiences. As far as why BJJ is alot more popular in the US and Canada? I personally think it had alot to do with the popularity of the UFC and the dominant performances of the Gracies/Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Plus, at least in my experience growing up, Judo didn't really have a "spot" in sports for a kid. Instead, it was either football or wrestling

[@WarlordFlanker]

Judoka is being very kind and friendly. If he was with another Judoka they'd likely be going hard in the paint. This could have gone a lot worse for the Aikido guy. Great video, love the Judoka's control and execution!

[@MP-db9sw]

If every Aikidoka had to do this kind of thing before every promotion the art would be soooo much more effective. Or it would disappear because people would just switch to something that works lol

[@crowsnest6753]

Aikido is the most effective form of martial arts when you have 10 guys going after you and each of them wait their turn to throw themselves on the floor when you touch them.

[@obiwanquixote8423]

Judo guy was doing what you do when sparring white belts. You do a throw first to see what they have. Then you basically give them looks and chances for a while until you get bored and then do an easy throw. Rinse repeat. If the judo guy had felt like getting out of first gear he could have thrown aikido guy every 5 seconds like it was a speed nagakomi drill.

[@Blackspartan88]

Mark Stan is the first person that I've ever met with a black belt in Judo and Bjj. And now I have a black belt in both also😁

[@FightCommentary]

That’s awesome! If you still have his contact, tell him I would love to interview him and encourage him to keep making content!

[@BJJ-CantonMA]

Congrats, i am BJJ black belt and Judo Black Belt too

[@davidmoore5231]

Props to the Judo guy not destroying the Aikido guy.

[@AD690smcr]

The judoka is throwing him with such ease.

[@HungarianWarHorse]

Its not hard to look down on jiu jitsu guys, cus theyre always sitting on the floor!😅 jk i love all martial arts

[@JuanIsHigh]

the judoka almost has like a boxing stance with an elbow block

[@EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes]

I have yet to watch all of the video as I need to return to it later, however, in my Aikido club we used to say that if you wait for someone to grab you, you are too late. As soon as I saw any movement towards me I would be moving off line. Standing toe-to-toe with a Judoka is immediately playing to Judo rules, no?

[@elenchus]

Yes, in theory, but I think in real life it'd be hard to actually engage with a judoka, particularly while wearing a gi, and not let them ever get grips at all. I suppose the aikido mindset might be to offer a grip as bait and anticipate the move, but against a real judoka I think it's unlikely you'd just nail complex aikido techniques on the first try (that is, the baited grip would probably turn into a real grip).

[@EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes]

@elenchus I used to practise 2 to 4 times a week. I thought Aikido was about armlocks, throws, and pins but when I read about O'Sensei's spiritual epiphany and how he explained why he changed Aikido I suddenly understood it. The armlocks, throws, and pins may occur after Aikido. If you don't do aikido you can't make the pins etc work. O'Sensei said that any move is Aikido if its principle is understood.

[@elenchus]

@@EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes He might have said that and believed it, I guess I'm just not seeing much evidence for the approach working in real life. Don't get me wrong, there are many reasons to study aikido for fun, exercise, or even ideological connections like pacifism, but it doesn't seem that Ueshiba has done an amazing job at preparing students to use these skills against resisting opponents, or at least, if he did, maybe his successors didn't.

[@MP-db9sw]

I think you should find a judoka, spar with him, film it and post it on YT to show what "good" Aikido looks like.

[@EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes]

@MP-db9sw thanks. I fought a judo champion around 15 years ago. We worked together. Also, after class four of us would practice streetfight techniques with Aikido. I'm old now and only spar with kids here. They are bigger than me though. They do it because they know i practised and they cannot grab hold of me. There's no Aikido in this footage.

[@billk5845]

my tkd jr instructor was also aikido and that combination was very good, we fought in tournament overseas and just the combinations between the two arts helped him win.

[@matthewtolmasoff2139]

@@billk5845 I can see that. If you are good at striking and then train aikido as like an accessory tool to use when it's appropriate, it could work.

[@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh]

Aikido and Judo are like Brothers they Represent Japan, The Legendary Morihei Ueshiba teach in Kodokan School as a Gigoro Kano request.

[@StrumVogel]

Aikido guy kept handing his arm out, but when grabbed Judo guy didn’t flip. 😂

[@rodrigotellom]

I think Aikido is actually a martial art worth studying, especially or mostly if you already train Judo and/or Brazilian Jiujitsu. The reason being that I think it can "clean" your technique and give you the space to study balance, joints, body mechanics in a very slow manner. The same way Karate will give some value to a kickboxer or muay thai person (focus, precision, more ranges, etc.). It's like studying a PhD in, say, physics: won't help you fix your car, but it'll at least give you some knowledge of why.

[@elenchus]

It's really a question of opportunity cost, from a combat efficacy perspective. It's not that no aikido move can ever be used in grappling, that's clearly not the case, but would you rather have spent that time learning aikido instead learning wrestling or jiujitsu? Which would get you better "gains" in fight skill for the same time cost?

[@H3llzrav3n]

Have to find a way to handle those 8 year old I guess 😂

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@elenchus exactly! I am one of the people that preach that Aikido is not useless and even i agree with what you're saying lol. You want to learn fighting or be better at it? Don't go to an Aikido dojo lol

[@sieciobywatel]

@@elenchus if your goal is proficiency in combat, Aikido is not the best path indeed. The whole point of Aikido is to learn how to yield and avoid direct confrontation whenever possible - for your own safety. Having said that, if you know how to fight, aikido gives a huge boost to your abilities, notably sidestepping an attack, footwork and placement against one or many opponents. And the most useful and life saving skills you can learn are ukemi.

[@elenchus]

@@sieciobywatel I get where you're coming from, but why bother with all of these joint locks and escapes if they're not intended to work in real life? Surely it would be faster and easier to teach Ueshiba's ideology of pacifism through a conventional lecture format or via books. Also, perhaps this is more of a vocabulary issue than a martial arts one, but I come from aikijujutsu (among other things), so I never received the sort of ideological side of aikido that the guys in aikikai do, for instance. For me it was not much different than a judo class. I suppose the point here is that the techniques, whether or not Ueshiba rebranded them after WW2, were at least at one point intended for fighting. Lastly, I'm not really sure that knowing aikido gives a huge boost to your abilities if you already know how to fight. For instance, I am not aware of any successful professional fighter who has attributed some big improvement in their game to crosstraining aikido.

[@wariossecretwarehouse7812]

POV me hoping to have enough money to one day take judo, BJJ, and boxing classes. But knowing I never will.

[@CthonicSoulChicken]

Gi's come in lots of different shapes and styles. There is no such thing as a specific "Aikido gi." Some aikidoka like the shorter sleeves because it makes training with wrist grabs and locks a lot easier. There are many examples of karateka using short sleeved and short-pant gi's to train in as well. I think it varies from school to school, but it could be regional or even a s simple as whatever the student prefers.

[@codythomas1450]

Aikido guy definitely got his black belt under Sensei Segal

[@nicklubrino2606]

The problem here is if the Judoka or the Akidoka knows how to box. The other is trouble because both guys have their hands low.

[@TheMisterGuy]

For Polish names like those ending in "zewski"...The "z" is like "sh" and the "w" is like "v". Read it like it ends in "shevski". The leggings are called "hakama", like you said, but emphasis on the "ha" part. They're there to protect your pants when riding a horse, but later became a status symbol that people wore all the time, like high-heel boots in Europe, because they imply that you can afford a horse. That's why old "samurai style" martial arts have them. You have to know how to fight without stepping on your giant pant legs, and they conceal your footwork. This is super slow motion (even when it's at full speed) but it still makes sense. Aikido's lower body techniques are almost all footwork. They don't really have foot sweeps or foot sweep defenses, kicks or kick-checks, or sacrifice (dropping yourself to the ground) techniques or sacrifice counters, so it's not a surprise that when they get grabbed by someone who doesn't lose their balance and starts working legs, feet, or body drops, they don't have a ready response. The shoulder roll to cross up and escape from the grab is pretty cool, and would go well with other counter grabs or foot sweeps.

[@flowrepins6663]

Aikido always gets beated up. Is the taekwondo of grappling.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Real 😢 Sad cuz i love both Aikido and TKD but TKD got destroyed by the competirive scene and Aikido was never really good to begin with

[@flowrepins6663]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 then do wrestling, sambo, judo or bjj in grappling. Do kyokushin karate if you like kicks. Sanda and muay thai are good also you got options.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@flowrepins6663 i know that the other arts are better for most things, that was never the matter at hand. I'm saying that this makes me sad because i do like TKD and Aikido a whole lot. I don't even do those arts, i do and teach Judo hahaha

[@flowrepins6663]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 judo is badass.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@flowrepins6663 Yes indeed! You need to make sure to do some no gi as well tho

[@paulroberts1961]

This Aikido Guy doesn't represent all of Aikido in my opinion. Where did Aikido or Aikijiutsu come from ? I'm sure Morihei Ueshiba the founder of Aikido learned Judo , Juijitsu and other Arts . So for the Aikidoist to do so Badly is a individual problem not the Art itself !!! It's how the individual is Trained, Practices and utilizes the techniques. The Judoka was obviously better against a less skilled opponent in actual Sparring. Why don't the Judo Man Spar with a Hapkido Master or at least a Black Belt? Aikido and Tae kwon Do combined is Hapkido. Since the founder of Korean Hapkido trained in Tae kwon Do & Aikido. It's not Art versus Art , it's individual versus another individual !!! Plus it's how those individuals Utilize their Art .

[@lordssenthe3st493]

…am I crazy or is the aikido dude looks almost exactly like the same guy who preached how good aikido was and got slapped in the face? 💀

[@elenchus]

lol yeah I see the same thing, although the number of aikidoka with a potbelly and a ponytail is so high that I'm sure confusion is frequent

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Trueee

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@elenchus 😂

[@henkuanghoung4732]

The offering your elbow to your opponent ‘guard’ can be used to lure them into a standing ude garami (kimura). You snatch their wrist as they grab sleeve at the forearm.

[@Patriotx-gx4ce]

Judo way more superior to most. Unless they meet an advanced striker.

[@brunod8578]

Hey Breakdown, thank for its video, I really need to appreciate this. I just remember Hikitsuchi Sensei words on his 90s, when he said "once you are touched, you're really dead". The 10th dan has all right, maybe this aikidoka can't understood it or it is impossible to applying in a real world...

[@allennmickk3705]

Mkdojo sent me to this channel

[@FightCommentary]

Awesome! Welcome!

[@JIUJITSUMAN22]

O-soto-gari, de-ashi-barai, ouchi-gari, yoko-tomoe nague( wich juji gatame). The purpose of that guard, is hide his own lapel, and own slevee, at the level of the wrist.

[@kuzushi_kev]

It’s always a slow motion train wreck watching these types of videos. You know exactly where it’s headed - the aikidoka with zero sparring experience.. gets thrashed by someone who does. The way he tries to entice the opponent to grab, and then is confused as to why he can’t enter into any technique whatsoever shows he’s conditioned to expect a completely compliant partner and not accustomed to an evasive and uncommitted attack. If you don’t spar you’ll never know this crucial element of training. Something BJJ and judo do well is they build their game around setups to force technique that would normally be unavailable.

[@mengmao5033]

I've noticed with the Shuaijiao short sleeved jacket that grip fighting resembles what we think of as stereotypical wing chun bridging and trapping. The reason being that without the fabric at the wrist, your forearms are slipperier and can shoot in deeper at higher speed with less chance of getting caught up.

[@RockCity-bj5bn]

AIKIDO ONLY WORK AGAINST OPPONENT WHO DOESNT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT. PERIOD!

[@lt7895]

@9.40 What's the name of your dog? 😂

[@illiJomusic]

My Baguazhang Sifu called Aikido the art of falling down.

[@nicolasrodriguez5054]

Mark's just casually practicing while Barry is seeing all his life flash before his eyes and all the training he poured into Aikido lol But I'm sure most of us would get absolutely wiped by both practitioners

[@rodrigocrispim]

Steven Barbecuegal: no chance!

[@Crafty-og9ox]

@@rodrigocrispim 🤣

[@benjaminstoute]

It's like a Philly Shell boxing stance.

[@johnniejackson9794]

Fighting over the last slice?

[@jonlong5541]

I did Aikido for a couple of yrs and done Judo for many years and this judoka is not the most athletic and he taking it easy on the Aikidoka

[@jethro9450]

Tomiki Aikido is the only Aikido style that uses sparing in practice, any sparing comparison made between regular Aikido and any other martial arts style is really comparing a novice with an expert.

[@junichiroyamashita]

A lots of BJJ guys have started to look into Judo for takedowns,and general standing work, the next step is Aikijutsu. I know that Jamie Cunnigham trains Tomiki. Bjj, Judo and Aikido are almost contiguous in their technical field, the grappling discipline of the future will probably be made out of these.

[@SG-cv4pf]

So basically the remaking of jujutsu

[@elenchus]

Cunningham's videos are very interesting. I recently suggested him to Jerry as well. I'll probably try out a bunch of his stuff now that I'm back in aikijujutsu land.

[@DouglasGomesBueno]

​​@@SG-cv4pfSadly 99,9% of people doesn't know that Aikido, Judo and BJJ are part of Japanese Jujutsu.

[@elenchus]

@@DouglasGomesBueno Sure, but that's more of a vocabulary fact than a martial arts fact. The reality that these styles are historically grouped together under a single name doesn't mean or imply that they're all functionally similar. Tae kwon do and Brazilian jiujitsu are all under the English phrase of "martial art" as well, but they don't have a lot in common.

[@CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe]

Looks like Shuai Jiao did better against judo at Xu Xiadong's gym years ago.That one armed aikido guy, it would be interesting to see him against judo.

[@dougjones4987]

Well,neither one of these guys will ever be invited to Steven Segal's Christmas party

[@thejinn99]

Is aikido guy doing tenkan? I took intro aikido and there is a technique called tenkan, which is turning.

[@elenchus]

He's not really doing much. He's being defensive and cautious in the beginning since it may be the first time he's actually ever done randori, and then when the judoka gets his grips in, he's essentially locked in place. The judoka can lock him out, move him in any direction, or let him in, at will at that point.

[@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh]

Gigoro Kano the Creator of Judo said Aikido is the ideal of budo; This is true and genuine judo.”

[@yesitsme6]

does aikodo people even spar?

[@elenchus]

very few aikido schools have sparring. As far as I know, only Tomiki and Yoseikan do, and that is still lighter than judo's randori. This would probably also apply to aikijujutsu as well (very light randori, that is).

[@leonardomarquesbellini]

Traditional Aikido doesn't. You find that in Aikido styles with roots in Judo practicioners (like Tomiki, founded by some top students Kanō sent to kearn under Ueshiba and create their own school that follows Judo's traning style) and in I think Yoshikan since that one's founder was obsessed with non-compliance due to his experiences during WW2. Bu as a rule the majority of styles and overwhelming majority of actual practicioners will not train that.

[@leonardomarquesbellini]

​@@elenchusthere is some merit to saying Aikido's techniques are very dangerous if you go full force, but I know at least Tomiki holds interschool competitions with hard matches, so it's definitely doable to go harder than what most styles go. Safe? Probably not, but neither is heel hooking your training partners in BJJ.

[@elenchus]

@@leonardomarquesbellini It's safe enough. That's what ukemi and tapping for. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there will be injuries, I've even been injured in aikido before (and in judo), but that's basically the cost of doing business if you want to develop fight efficacy. There may be a handful of techniques that, in the highly unlikely event someone could actually get to them in real sparring, may do so much damage with such little pressure that we wouldn't use them, like kote kudaki for instance. Other techniques like robuse, uki chigai, hiji kudaki, ude garame, no reason you couldn't apply those within reasonable tolerances of safety.

[@aymanabaza6475]

Judo, for stand up is the best. Period. We can counter any throw also we have many counters to a wrestlers single and double leg takedowns. Also, we in Judo have the ground game and without Judo you wouldn't have bjj, don't forget. The Gracie family learned all their Judo many years from the great Japanese Fighter Maida. He's blocking his left lapel so the opponent doesn't gain control of his movements

[@MelvinMaclinIIMD]

"Gentle joining" = blending

[@FightCommentary]

DUDE. That is a good word too! Good call!

[@MelvinMaclinIIMD]

@@FightCommentary "gentle joining" is actually a GREAT WAY to describe blending. A key feature of Aikido is "evasion" (don't get hit, don't get grabbed, don't get taken to the ground). This means moving WITH your opponent in synchrony. When you "blend" it requires movement at the same time as your opponent (uke). A little light contact gives your body enough information to "feel" what your uke is doing... just like in ballroom dancing, it looks fluid. If you just stand there and don't move... well you see what happens. If you want to see blending in action, get a friend and stand across from each other, arms distance, face to face. Reach out and put your hands together (palm to palm) like a high five, and barely touch. Slowly move your arm around in a random pattern (up, down, left right, circle, zigazag), then ask your friend to keep up. He will do it seamlessly. Next ask him to close his eyes and repeat the exercise. Now try the same exercise with no contact and let me know what happens.

[@FightCommentary]

Yes! In acting class in college we did that!

[@zeebest1004]

The judoka wasn’t giving his full chi or he would have been thrown across the floor!🧐

[@AcceleratingUniverse]

the hakama are just the pants. they are worn over a gi. so the jacket is just called a gi.

[@DR-nh2kh]

u can tell the training they do in ikido by that belly

[@DarwinLeacock-f8b]

Black belt judo vs a white belt aikido!😅

[@marcosgarcia-3696]

So is there any good aikido people out there. I’m starting to think it’s just a joke martial arts. I’m being serious.

[@clffreak]

STAANEESH EVSKY

[@Nykoooo1]

This is embarrassing. Why do we treat aikido with more respect than it is due just because of Hollywood movies? This sport has to be called out for the bs it is. The judo guy is going ridiculously easy on him this is embarrassing.

[@elenchus]

Does anyone treat aikido with respect? And aside from a handful of mid-'90s movies, where are the big Hollywood aikido demos?

[@MP-db9sw]

Majority of people who know about combat sports recognize that Aikido pretty much always looks like this.

[@hellohennessy3462]

Aikido works by using an opponent's forward momentum against them. Trained fighters avoid creating forward momentums.

[@H3llzrav3n]

Doesn't work at all unless it's on an 8byear old.

[@hellohennessy3462]

@@H3llzrav3n nah, it works when I try it on my friends. But when they get serious, it doesn't work anymore.

[@flowrepins6663]

​@@hellohennessy3462it gets beat up in real fights

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

You are mostly right, but there are many Aikido techniques that work even when there is no forward momentum (Aiki Otoshi, Kote Hineri, some Tenchi Nage variations, etc) and then there are also some techniques that are meant to create forward/sideways mometum (Ikkyo, Nikkyo, Sankyo, Kote Gaeshi, Ude Garami, Hijikime Osae, Juji Garami, Ude Kime Nage, Shokumen Nage, etc) Keep in mind that i don't do Aikido, i do Judo instead. But here we do learn about other arts, i believe Aikido is not useless as their techniques can be seen being successful in other arts, but their training methods is lacking a whole lot, you would need to already be amazing at fighting for Aikido training to actually teach you anything, and that would be mostly pointless, wouldn't it?

[@pastlast158]

So it's useless.

[@SamaBRJ]

Aikido is good just in old action movies. It's joke compared to BBJ and Judo.

[@jasonkano9285]

The thing here is the ak8do guy can't strike in order to male a snap or grab

[@dangerdavefreestyle]

top 3 aikido channels: aikidoshiburenju / japan roguewarriors lenny sly / chicago aikido center la / los angeles that guy right there is about to go home and slam a box of captain crunch and has never had a randori judoka very well skilled and was protecting his lapel because that is the power hand which has push/pull ability. not that it wouldve mattered in this scenario.

[@Oo_Shade_oO]

Senshinone is probably the most practical.

[@vincefairleigh6899]

I’d love to see this if they went to tap out, aikido has some merrit for sure, but not that effective on the street, the judo can be very effective but training like that would not get one ready for the street.. they’re famous for stopping all the time, it’s actually painful to watch..

[@raulrivera9254]

Where's what's his name Steven? He throws people around like toys in his videos 😂😂😂

[@rohitchaoji]

If it's an actual Polish name, then an easy way to pronounce such names would be to know that "sz" sounds pretty close to a "sh" sound, "cz" sounds pretty close to a "ch" sound and "rz", well it sounds like the French "j" sound to me.

[@philipgerardsalvador2097]

Steven Seagal from TEMU

[@lorismarchitelli5274]

Notice around 7:40 the aikido dude starting to get butthurt and simulating striking: "heh, see Aikido is better cuz in reality i wold strike in this position" Imagine being so inept that you start to give striking lessons during grappling sparring. Aikido guys are really petty when they get distroyed eaven gently like here

[@sieciobywatel]

@@lorismarchitelli5274 atemi are integral part of not only Aikido, but also Judo. They were just exchanging some moves, it looks like it was actually the Judo guy, who asked about vulnerability during one of the moves, and Aikidoka explained how it is covered by atemi. That was not a competition, no one was trying to prove anything, as the gap in skill and experience should be pretty obvious to anyone.

[@FreedomIII]

@@sieciobywatel Yeah, you can see them talking about and simulating various movements throughout the whole video. Not everyone gets butthurt when they can't seem to get the upper hand on their sparring partner lol

[@sieciobywatel]

@@FreedomIII Indeed. But apparently some people spar to sate their ego, not to learn from someone more skilled.

[@Docinaplane]

He's not an Aikido guy, he's an uke. lol

[@satvirvia1561]

I studied aikido as a teenager because I liked steven segal. Got my black belt. Wouldn't survive in real life combat at all. Oh well, at least aikido kept me away from drugs and other vices

[@crimsonjack8617]

Maybe it would be FAIR if they were in the SAME weight class

[@qvaerensveritatem9064]

lol why doesnt aikido guy grab the wrists and do some joint lock throws...

[@Boomstck]

It’s very hard to do against resisting opponent, and the judo guy is out gripping the aikido guy. The aikido guy had sleeve grips multiple times, but couldn’t do anything with the grips he had. Judo is just a superior grappling style, no offense to aikido.

[@chinesebob7220]

Here's a more even match between a BJJ guy and Leo Tamaki, the aikido guy in Jesse Enkamp's video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5u1mKKench2f68

[@Hunglowwang]

"we all knew he was gonna get slaughtered"? Hey, I'm an Aikidoka. I officially challenge you to a sparring match. You call the rules. We can do it on your channel.

[@Boomstck]

That would be interesting to see, if he doesn’t answer here then try to message on other platforms?

[@Rombizio]

I am confused. Aikido requires atemi. He cannot hit the opponent. Besides.....he doesnt seem to be a black belt. At all.....

[@elenchus]

I find that very few aikidoka would even know where the atemi are in their techniques, and I don't think that it would have changed much here. This may be quite a bit less true in aikijujutsu or pre-ww2 aikido (Tomiki/Yoseikan), but even so, I doubt it would change much. If the Yoseikan fighter did much better, it would likely be because he also knows Yoseikan judo, not due to the atemi in his aikido training. If Ueshiba really believed that atemi was critically important to learning aikido, he didn't seem to teach that way.

[@Rombizio]

@@elenchus Agreed but most of Ueshiba students used atemi everywhere. I trained with many of them and they all applied all the time, like Yamada, Kobayashi, Tomei and Tamura sensei. The guy on the video seems completely lost.

[@elenchus]

@@Rombizio I can't say that I've ever trained with a Ueshiba uchi deshi, so maybe I'd be surprised, I just see vanishingly little evidence of atemi in Ueshiba's official lineage of aikido, and while I think using atemi as a component of joint locks and throws is super cool and interesting (genuinely, I'm not being sarcastic), I still haven't see much to be too impressed by even in aikijujutsu. That is, I don't think it'd be a game changer.

[@Rombizio]

@@elenchus Agreed again. The martial part of the art became too diluted.

[@oxhdmgui]

I’m sure aikidoka realized that this art form is very limited

[@d0min0danc1ng]

Anybody seen Ritchie..??

[@pusanggalacartoons882]

The Aikido guy is not “Aikidoing”

[@draimary]

In aikido you suppose to Not let the other guy grab you, why does the aikido guy let the judoka grab his sleeve? Good guy the judoka

[@sidesplitters]

Aikido is as useful as a chocolate teapot.

[@johnperry7383]

Two primarily defensive martial arts like that? Both require aggression from the opponent. Trying to imagine the trash talking between them makes me laugh.

[@Pieds-rouges]

judoka uses his elbow to prevent his strong/ lead hand to be grapple

[@FightCommentary]

So it’s to prevent the opponent from grabbing the sleeve?

[@Pieds-rouges]

@@FightCommentary yeah something like that

[@fitzhugh2542]

Why do Aikido guys always have a pony tail

[@coreygrant5974]

Seems like a slow-paced practice session. Not sparring.

[@chefchux4241]

In aikido you ward off the grabs….. so why is he allowing him to grab his sleeves?…. Half the battle is already won 🙏🏿

[@tjen7929]

To be fair, there is striking in Aikido which was not used here. Aikido is still a weak art though compared to the other combat forms.

[@jasonkano9285]

Akido works if you can be aggressive & works better on smaller

[@de-infinitysystems4118]

I wonder why people compare two martial arts without taking note of the participants as well. Two Judoka of same belt could still fight and one would still outclassed and out match the other. These two being compared are not in the same league whatsoever, so I wonder the basis of this comparison. The Aikido guy obviously is not on top of his game, and I would not expect him to best his opponent even if they were both Judoka. I'm not saying one art is better than the other in this case, but as it were, the match is not properly matched. I don't really see any good basis for comparison here. More like playing around.

[@JasonManbodh]

❤😂Bismillah 🎉Allah 😅😊

[@gojub3173]

How is it that I seem to be the only one noticing that the Aikido practitioner is not even trying to utilize any of his own techniques? He almost seems to be talking the Judoka through some of the techniques; you don't know what you don't know. You have to remember - it's not the martial art, it's the martial artist. Study your martial arts, guys - Aikido is legit, and this is coming from a straight up GojuRyu practitioner. Think old school...

[@grapp77]

What a joke. That Aikido guy needs to go back to his mcdojo and get a refund

[@laurenceholland8465]

With all due respect, I see no Aikido techniques being attempted here.

[@Gary-u1x]

It was to easy for the Judo guy

[@julian-gen]

LOL NOT A SERIOUS MARTIAL ART. FAKE.

[@billlee2458]

😢