EPIC Value in a Small Package ⚡ Kingsong S16 Pro Review

[@WheelGoodTime]

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[@srnunan4783]

Got mine a week ago, my 7, 9 and 11yr olds love it, they all learned on 14D. I can ride it ok too, for me the trolley handle was the let down as it doesn't lock in up position like a patton so slides down when walking it then the wheel becomes hard to balance. It's a fun wheel that can roll at reasonable speeds without being too heavy. The 84v isn't a problem for me at 200lb as long as i don't expect it to be really zippy on a climb for instance but the smaller diameter wheel gives it an effective lower gearing which helps it deliver more torque than you'd expect from 84v. The battery percentage seems to fall away pretty quickly compared to a patton, but my feet get sore way before i get down below 50% (not the wheels fault, i just haven't got used to long rides yet)

[@anthonygilcrest]

I love my S16 Pro. Great beginner wheel and all around small town ripper. Thanks for great review. 👍👍

[@ianl1741]

Agree, especially small town ripper. Maybe not enough range for city ripping but I am satisfied for all my rides.

[@JP-qq2kn]

​@ianl1741 what's max range just cruising?

[@DiegoJ1023]

I got a kick of out of the “challenges” 😂

[@Euc_Rebel]

😂

[@0Ninja0Dude0]

Out of all the reviews i feel like i come away with more informed opinion after wayching yours. Always good stuff

[@holyTripleSix]

best beginner EUC out there currently

[@elijahcavin2408]

I really like my v11 but it's also the only wheel I've owned or riden

[@MichaelHollandOne]

Beginner wheel? I just got a V8s, coming in Tuesday. I already started looking at what I might by next and was looking at this as a next level wheel.

[@cash2.0]

My wheels don't have a Bluetooth speaker so I use a JBL Clip on an elastic neck lanyard (old stretchy shoelace). The older Clips (2 & 3) have a speakerphone that is very handy on an EUC.

[@ianl1741]

Have to say, I personally like the tire and have ascended some very steep off road like 35° hills or more without traction issues. Also tire is easier on street than a full knobbie. It's def in between, works for me tho. I don't lean really hard in corners, mostly decelerate a bit first. If you live in an area with goatheads...get the mr tuffy lime tire liners. Just need 1 of course but they work for all but nails and mesquite thorns

[@watapikman]

the rgb lights and speakers do serve somewhat of a purpose for city commuters that want to be seen and heard by traffic around them, and to alert pedestrians that like to randomly wonder on to the bike lane of their presence. but I get that a lot of people just turn these off and use other methods to make themselfs heard or seen. still, it´s nice to have those options come with the wheel itself. About the tire, it really is flatter than avarage kendas, but if you pump it to the psi recomended by the manufacturer (35-40 psi) it becomes rounder and easier to turn with

[@iheartihop]

Great video. I bought one a few weeks ago as my first EUC and love it. Interestingly, the tire on yours is not the same tire that came standard on mine from ewheels. The standard tire on my unit does seem better. Having ridden Onewheels for the past few years, this wheel gives me a nice bump up in speed, range, and torque compared to what I’m used to. I mostly ride bike trails and light offroad, so I find it plenty powerful for now. *Edit for more description* The stock tire on my unit has different tread, and is more round and less boxy than the one on yours for anyone interested.

[@WheelGoodTime]

Interesting! Yes it looks like on eWheels' site you have the option of two different tires, both of which look much better than the one I used. Seems Jason @ ewheels had foresight on that and ensured the S16 pro didn't ship with the tire I used. This one seems to be the kind the rest of the world will be using as shipped from the factory, but eWheels gets to do special orders like that because they have such high order volume 🙂

[@martinsaunders2942]

Personally I can happily live without speakers….In fact I think it’s much better to wear ear buds if you want to hear loud music when riding….its really antisocial to subject everyone you pass with your cool music…that others most likely think is crap.

[@anDromedaIOT]

I am waiting for mine (UK). Just retired, had an mcm5 before I put it in the canal 😢. I don't like speakers or strip lights but I do want something lightish. There is no perfect wheel but this ticks a lot of boxes for me. Thanks for the vid, more pls.

[@ianl1741]

You could remove the speakers and turn the light off...so those actually wouldn't even bother you. Might enjoy the tunes riding with friends tho or meeting up in a park...they're nice to have on occasion!

[@Erafune]

Dayum of all the things that could happen to it xD Some treasure diver going to get a good surprise. I hear UK laws are pretty much in war on micromobility :( I pray it gets better.

[@Erafune]

I am missing a segment about the App/Settings. The V12 has a lot of stuff in there, like change balance tilt angle, change hardness of pedals both accelerating and braking. If S16 Pro cant match that, the V12 may be the superior beginner wheel, outweighing the lack of suspension.

[@MathieuTechMoto]

Love the instruction part, good work !

[@lemsab]

5'11. 100kgs. beginner rider here. Torn between this and the Inmotion v12ht as my first beginner EUC. If you are to recommend an EUC to a beginner rider that prefers range over speed, all under $2k USD budget (or roughly 3k CAD with shipping and taxes)..which one would you recommend? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Really nice video by the way

[@WheelGoodTime]

Personally, I would stay away from the V12 because it has a cutout issue that has never been officially addressed. For that budget, I would go with a T4 Pro myself, and my second choice after that would be an S16 pro. Both have suspensions, and are good and powerful enough for beginners but they can also be fun little trail wheels even after you get something more powerful later on. 🫡

[@segment932]

The tire section felt like you where talking about american cars from the 70 to 90's. Its good as long as you go straight!

[@WheelGoodTime]

I never thought of it that way, but good point! 😂

[@grb1969]

I fully expected a ‘flash dance’ dowsing when challenged not to get the wheel wet. 😂

[@sb3424]

I'm interested in this wheel because i want something that's compact and lightweight, has good performance, can support 265lbs or more, and has an affordable price. It just seems like an overall well rounded wheel.

[@alrog8929]

I'm surprised by your tire comments ... I upgraded my Patton with this tire, and it's a game changer: more nimble, perfect mix for on and off road 😀 What pressure did you put on it?

[@WheelGoodTime]

I didn't check honestly - I had it for a we we k and it seemed to be a good psi for my weight though. I'd guess about 35 psi.

[@alrog8929]

@@WheelGoodTime I’m 176 lbs and 29 PSI in the tire

[@komateconspi]

Hello there, great video, I'm subscribing. However, I was shocked by the 30Miles. I want to buy it to replace my Kingsong 16s, and I expected the same autonomy, even the 18XL 😢

[@WheelGoodTime]

EUC manufacturers tend to exaggerate their range claims - KS says the S16 Pro can go far more than that, but 30 miles is a more realistic range with an adult rider going fast. If you aren't riding crazy with it, I think you could get about 50-60 miles without too much trouble, especially for a lighter rider.

[@ianl1741]

I agree with his assessment here owning this wheel

[@retrothruster2539]

I changed my deposit from the S16 Pro to the EB Mini, glad I did BUT I still really like the S16 and want to try one, I'm in the minority but like all the lights and tech it offers.

[@Kev-In-Motion]

Did you try to add any 3rd party pads like Grizzla’s to see how they fit on the S16 Pro? Haven’t seen anyone try that yet with this wheel.

[@WheelGoodTime]

I did not - I should have though! The only pads I currently have are "big wheel" ones, so I don't think it would have fit very well. Either way I think a set of regular Grizzla flow pads (or similar) would fit decently on it.

[@geladolaberidze]

Hi , i love to hear your recommendation : which is better s16 or inmotion v12 ?

[@WheelGoodTime]

S16 100%. The V12 goes faster, but since it doesn't have a suspension, it's a hard no from me. Have you also considered the T4 Pro?

[@geladolaberidze]

@@WheelGoodTime thanks 🙏yes i was thinking about t4 or master but i don’t like their visuals 🤷🏻‍♂️😬 what about V11Y?

[@WheelGoodTime]

@@geladolaberidze the V11 was my first EUC 🙂 I liked it a lot at the time and the V11Y is an incremental upgrade. I think it's nice, but pad mounting will definitely be a frustration because of the two vertical stanchions in place on both sides. Personally, if given the choice between the three, I'd choose the T4 Pro first, then S16, then V11Y. Not that the V11Y is bad, it's just that the T4 Pro has better specs so your skills won't outgrow it quite so quickly.

[@geladolaberidze]

@@WheelGoodTime thanks again 🙏

[@Parkeralto]

One of my manuals advised against carrying animals on your euc; so there is one more challenge for you.

[@WheelGoodTime]

YES! Do you remember which wheel?

[@Skylancer727]

I mean they could just use a bone conducting speaker to make the entire top panel of the device a speaker. They're basically just speakers you place on objects and it vibrates them as the speaker. Then it can easily be water proofed. I've even seen a few TVs and monitors use these just because you can't see them.

[@Dreamer66617]

Cant use bone conducting too much interference with vibrations from street while riding.

[@TheNazradin]

nice review. But speakers on euc's are obnoxious.

[@JD-qo9wk]

How does this compare to a Begode T4? I'm looking for a good first wheel

[@WheelGoodTime]

The T4 pro is better specced slightly, but it has no speakers. Between the two I'd personally go with the T4 pro.

[@arieswaters]

It's so hard when you're deciding to try a new wheel period and it's so helpful when folks like you are on here giving advice hand reading everyone's comments to

[@laurv8370]

Best review.

[@looty_thejackrussell]

Were you able to get it up to max speed? Stated as 37mph, but I've been reading that 34mph seems to be where the wheels beeps/tilts back hard.

[@WheelGoodTime]

I didn't attempt get to 37 mph exactly, but I was able to get to about 35 mph without too much issue. It didn't feel like it had lot of power to push beyond that speed, so I didnt want to push my luck. I was able to hold 29 mph or so on 40% battery though, which I thought was impressive.

[@ianl1741]

Tilt back is very gentle lol! Hard? Nonsense.

[@Xeroboros]

Is this EUC ok to buy for a beginner?

[@WheelGoodTime]

Yep! 😊

[@Arthur-zz5cu]

I got a KS22 as a beginner wheel. I'm 72 yo and going well. (about 600kms) What do EUC manufacturers lie about? The range. 200kms, Kingsong? Really? The warning beeps sound just like a bird we've got here, which can be confusing. And there is no better music than silence. It could do with a few auxiliary outlets. Does anyone make a plug for an electric car charging port?

[@Redsun156]

What’s the difference between S16 and S16 pro? how did you know if it S16 pro is there difference between motor battery etc?

[@WheelGoodTime]

The pro has 200w more motor power and a slightly higher top speed. Also, it has Samsung 50S fast-discharge batteries, which are much better than the 50E batteries in the regular S16.

[@arieswaters]

As of Memorial Day 2024 they sold their last king song 16s. They don't make them anymore

[@WheelGoodTime]

@@arieswaters where did you hear this info? They probably are just doing the pro version now

[@Stan0619]

It’s a shame, it’s one of the most beautifully designed wheels, but underpowered. Was your helmet designed w/ the bumper crown, or was it aftermarket? Thx

[@WheelGoodTime]

I'm not sure what you mean by bumper crown, but I ride with a 100% stock Bell Broozer Helmet and also a Bell Super 3R helmet. With an EVT Safezone helmet mirror. 🙂

[@ianl1741]

Underpowered? It's in a category and the best in that category. Yes it's not a lynx or ET max nor does it pretend to be nor cost as much!

[@mexicanbatman666]

Actually a good wheel for a V1 Less issues than on my Lynx, but not without faults I rate it highly, don’t superman it above 30km/h and keep the speeds below 50km/h and it’s awesome

[@grb1969]

Used S22pro is approaching ~$1500 price range. Better value for used wheels will be the industry’s toughest competition… and rightfully so. The planned-obsolescence of the Kingsong suspension wheel lineup will eventually kill this company, or get them bought out at a severely devalued cost. Ugh!

[@electricguy109]

Personally, I don’t like it… and I would not call it as a beginner wheel. It’s too heavy (get a S22 instead), apparently not easy to work on, not cheap… and a big batch had battery issues (dead on arrival) which is a pain for EUC sellers (warranty with KS). I think the V11Y is a better wheel for this segment (want to go really fast? Go get a Lynx/Patton/Extreme/Etc…).

[@WheelGoodTime]

That's a good point about the huge bad batch that was DOA. I totally forgot about that!, I haven't tried the v11y, but after owning the v11 for a few years as my first wheel, I would definitely take the s16 pro over the V11Y. The V11/Y is also notoriously hard to work on as well. I would choose the S16 Pro primarily on the basis of having better pad mounting options, which is a huge deal to me. The V11Y does have better waterproofing though...

[@ianl1741]

How is V11Y better lol aside from waterproofing? Suspension and probably reliability is decidedly worse. KS 22 is a pretty good option though, not much heavier, more expensive, and maybe able to get that magical 40 mph, larger tho

[@erCostinha]

im the best dealer out there, change the intro :p

[@WheelGoodTime]

Too late 😂 that's Next Gen Mobility's new slogan, but I am sure you provide fantastic value also 🙂

[@nagrom42_racing]

hello, 1:08 it's 60kph not 70kph ;)

[@WheelGoodTime]

I reject your reality and substitute my own! 😉 But really- Thanks for the correction!

[@sazzowl_gaming8203]

did you say 70kph? i think its 60 at max and even that has to be proven

[@WheelGoodTime]

I misspoke on the 70kph. But I was able to get to 35 mph with no beeps on the street

[@sazzowl_gaming8203]

@@WheelGoodTime thats cool! Normally 84v wheels can't really reach 60kph but the 50s cells should be the difference. I would still buy the T4 pro 50s because it's soooo much better to maintain and there is a filled Market with things like fairing systems for the t4 because of how good it sold

[@WheelGoodTime]

@@sazzowl_gaming8203 I think I would have to agree with you there. The price tag is fairly similar for both, and as for me, I'm a performance hound. The T4 Pro has higher voltage and is capable of a little bit more, especially with the knobby tire that it comes with. Out of the box, I think the T4 Pro is a better trail wheel and more "serious", while the s16 pro is more for leisurely commutes and keeping the party going with lights and speakers. 🙂

[@omidel.]

does nor say after 180 days goes to 0.....

[@WheelGoodTime]

I was reading between the lines 🫡

[@arieswaters]

Interesting in one of the answers to one of the comments the fellow that made this video recommended the b e g o d e T4 over this wheel

[@WheelGoodTime]

Yeah the T4 pro price has gone way down, so the value increased quite a bit lately in my opinion. But it's all about what's important to you - do you want a better suspension and awesome speakers (S16 pro)? Or do you want better performance, better range and a lower price? (T4 pro) Personally I like the T4 pro more, but to each their own.

[@markifi]

at this price the inmotion v12hs seems like a better deal

[@WheelGoodTime]

To each their own but for me, even if the v12 is priced lower I'd still choose the S16 Pro. There's just something to be said for having a good suspension 🙂

[@josebars4572]

😂😂

[@epessoarocha]

Funny!

[@shibadoesntcare]

Its 70-80lbs not a beginner wheel wtf u thinking

[@WheelGoodTime]

I know people who have learned on the 130 lbs master pro. This wheel now belongs to a 9 year old as his first wheel. It's beginner friendly enough 🙂

[@shibadoesntcare]

@@WheelGoodTime you're crazy

[@WheelGoodTime]

@@shibadoesntcare you are 100% right about that 😉

[@Dave-cf4vd]

You are absolutely, 1000% WRONG on your assessment of that tire. I've tried a lot of tires, and this CST C131 is a true dual-sport moped tire, with 4 plys (meaning hard to get pinch flats). You said it has a square profile?? Do you have eyes? The profile is perfectly round, which means it is perfectly predictable. The tread has fantastic grip on hardpack, with no annoying buzz or wear on tarmac, and the knobs are offset so it doesn't lock into a groove. Sure you can find a better dedicated street tire; you can't find a better 16" dirt tire that still has nice manners on the street.

[@WheelGoodTime]

I'm glad you like it so much 🙂 it's funny how peoples' opinions on tires vary so much. Adam @ Wrong Way loved this tire too, and I laughed out loud because of how wildly our opinions differed on this tire 😆 to each their own for sure.