Teen FM DESTROYS Kramnik So He Accuses Him Of Cheating

Vladimir Kramnik Gets Smashed At Chess By Teenage Fide Chess Master So He Accuses Him Of Cheating. This is Artem Dyachuk vs Vladimir Kramnik, Late Titled Tuesday Chess Tournament, 23rd January 2024.
Link to Kramnik's original video here: • na moguchem
Link to Titled Tuesday Game here: www.chess.com/events/2024-tit...
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[@chesscomsupport8689]

Forms of cheating in chess: 1. Using devices 2. Using an accomplice 3. Pre-arranging games with the opponent 4. Beating Kramnik

[@velotrenini]

I hope they add this feature on April Fools day.

[@cooloutac]

The kid is a 2200 otb player in fact he was 2300 in June and dropped 100 points even drop 20 points in January. And he barely plays OTB and only plays online and I think we could see why now. Alot of you kids need to stop listening to these streamers creating drama and grow up.

[@dariogreggio7981]

@@cooloutac who are you talking to

[@cooloutac]

@@dariogreggio7981 don't like my comment do you? the truth hurts kid.

[@dariogreggio7981]

@@cooloutac ????? i just asked who are you talking to, i don't understand what your point is could you explain?

[@PiTow-th7cx]

The thing is he is accusing too many players of cheating. Even if in some cases he might be right, no body believes him.

[@KvS1248]

Yep. First he was on a good track, now he has gone Off-track

[@Kevinrothwell1959]

Yes, classic cry wolf syndrome!

[@zizhdizzabagus456]

It doesn't matter. You can't prove his opponent wasn't cheating so what's the problem? Could he be cheating? Ofcource. So he's a greyzone. As well as everybody else. Chess is compromised game that never can become legit again. Everyone is potential cheater without any chance to prove they are not cheaters

[@danielward7008]

​@@zizhdizzabagus456No. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Kramnik just underestimated his opponent and got punished for it.

[@ratatatuff]

@@zizhdizzabagus456 With that attitude you should never ever play any game. I mean, everyone could be a cheater. Maybe you also shouldn't ever leave your flat. There's cheaters everywhere and they will cheat you at the supermarket, the post office, the subway, EVERYWHERE. And they all can't prove they're not cheaters. Yeah, better stay at home and don't leave the house. Never ever.

[@alphastorm88]

Kramnik makes an unsound sacrifice and then claims his opponent is cheating.

[@thetjt]

Unsound sacrifice followed with blunders. Kramnik is a damn clown.

[@yaa40]

The International Clown Association condemn your statement, as they refuse to associate with Mr. Kramnik. Per their statement, they called him a "bad joke" and said they only accept "good jokes" into their association. I wouldn't take them at their word though, they're all clowns!

[@glennmorren2892]

someone please make Kramnik's nose clownish red in a gif

[@tom_curtis]

Kramnik's sacrifice was not unsound, but neither was it a forced win.

[@marcod-zc4lg]

The trolls are coming out of their caves. 😂

[@Mike-cp1tj]

In the old days, master play kids and win, kids cry. Today, kids play kramnik and win, kraminik cry.

[@cooloutac]

Only online and that's what the problem is.

[@joshuahietala5174]

@@cooloutac Well, Kramnik doesn’t really play OTB anymore so where else would they beat him dumbass.

[@trex511ft]

yeah let's see them make Kramnik "cry" in a face to face match. Everyone is so "GM" online.

[@stephenschmidt5619]

It's easy to fall into the delusion of "they're cheating, because I lost!" to hide the pain of losing and not take responsibility of your own actions.

[@erer6068]

Yes exactly, this is mainly done by weak players who have no chess understanding, but should Kramnik do it? he had to understand immediately the mistakes he makes.. his mental health is not good

[@tom-kz9pb]

Sounds just like Donald Trump, only his case was immensely more ugly and serious, nothing short of undermining American democracy.

[@tom-kz9pb]

"You must have cheated because I lost." Sounds just like Donald Trump, only Trump's case was immensely more serious, nothing short of undermining American democracy. Kramnik's kind of paranoid egotism can become a cancer.

[@tom-kz9pb]

Kramik reminds of a certain former President who took the same attitude, only in a vastly more serious situation of a lost election, and to the tune of undermining democracy, itself. All such evidence-free, frivolous charges need to be publicly shamed.

[@matterickson503]

Democracy needs to undermined. Stop repeating liberal garbage. The U S A is a Republic.

[@paulhan3314]

Kramnik now remembering his cheating strategy against Kasparov. This is the reason why he is always anxious. A cheater knows. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@PhilL30tard0]

Or against Topalov 😂

[@RichACBlues]

Maybe you are right. it takes one to know one and that is why he is not as naive. Irrelevant to the bigger picture though my friend.

[@togfanatic3781]

are you on to something ?

[@paulhan3314]

@@togfanatic3781 yes i am

[@MorningNapalm]

The Danish say: thief thinks that everyone steals.

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

I used to love big Vlad, but now it is just sad. There was absolutely nothing suspicious in the winners play. Thanks James.

[@darthkek1953]

Loved Vlad Great Lad Was Glad Now Sad

[@laughingocelot2097]

Seriously. It's appalling how quick he hit the Report button. No analysis board, nothing. Salty 200 ELO behavior.

[@cooloutac]

@@laughingocelot2097 more people should report there's nothing wrong with it it's just a check. This kid is a 2200 OTB player in the past year he dropped 100 points. And he's smoking 2900 as a 2,700 player online. Nahhhh

[@ladro_magro5737]

We can all agree that Vlad is a bit too toxic on this topic. However, you cannot, with 100% certainty, say that there was nothing suspicious in White's play. Even a single, obvious-looking move from afar, could have been supported by the engine during the play and we could never prove it. The rule of thumb is to never fully trust your opponent during an online play. I lost 2 games in classical online play, only to find out that those two players were banned afterward, even thought I haven't felt anything 'suspicious' during the game.

[@michaelmassaro4375]

@@cooloutac are you the real Kramlik ?

[@Trelmayas21]

Kramnik was once a top player, but hasn't kept up with the development of theory. His ego won't let him see this, so he just accuses everyone of cheating. It's just getting sad. He underestimated his opponent, went for a reckless attack, then gets salty when his opponent punishes his recklessness and overconfidence with solid play. 3:57 Bf1 isn't even hard to find here. It's a common defensive idea in these structures, and a common response to your queen being under threat is to counterattack your opponent's queen. Ra7 is also not a difficult move to find. Putting a rook on the 7th or 2nd rank is a common attacking idea, and it's just a matter of calculating whether your attack is faster than Black's. My point is that nothing Artem played here was some bizarre engine line. Just solid, principled chess. It's worth noting that young kids are often underrated, since they are learning and progressing rapidly, and haven't had the time to reach their true rating. They are the last opponents you want to underestimate and disrespect like Kramnik did here.

[@epicchess2021]

Yep fully agree on all points!

[@SparkSovereign]

Agreed. I'm not practiced enough to be anywhere near this level in my own games, but even I saw a few of these blunders and how to punish them; obviously it's harder in the game than from the sidelines after the fact, but I'm an amateur and he's a bit better than I am so I'd imagine that normally helps 😂 They both played better than I do, but this just looked like Kramnik got sloppy against someone good enough to punish him for it. Even I can get 90+ accuracy when someone gives me an obvious blunder to work with. If a kid is wrecking you when you're playing extremely well, that's one thing, but anyone can lose when they have a bad day. OTB I'll pick up wins from people double my rating or lose to people who've only played a handful of times just because one mistake is all it takes sometimes.

[@marilynfat1619]

Genius comment

[@marilynfat1619]

Genius comment

[@AleaIactaEst2009]

He's just way too emotional over it. As soon as he lost he reported the player for cheating. He didn't take a moment to calmly reflect and analyse. It's wham, I lost he must be cheating. Nevermind my sacrifice wasn't that great. Nevermind my own accuracy wasn't that great. It's just an instant emotional response to losing, must report that as cheating. It was the same thing with his long posting rants; all emotion written quickly and angrily and with no logical substance.

[@thomasmount7388]

That's a good point. He is reacting emotionally - reflected in his chess too - is there an illness that reduces emotional inhibitions? (Don't tell me old age lol)

[@victorfinberg8595]

kramnik needs to be careful. it's not so much that he can be found guilty of defamation (his actions still fail one of the 4 critical tests), but he is turning himself into a complete laughingstock.

[@kurtkaufmann4553]

Already done!

[@AiR1DaN]

Maybe we have a case of a Russian being upset about losing to a Ukranian

[@QuantumHistorian]

Kramnik is just being very patriotic and joining in the popular Russian pass time of getting whooped by Ukranians.

[@AiR1DaN]

@@QuantumHistorian at least he's not in a trench and getting a visit from the 73rd 💀

[@chesscomsupport8689]

The nationalities are certainly noteworthy given global events, but I don't think they play much of a role here. Kramnik is far from discriminating when it comes to levelling cheating accusations. To him, people of all nationalities, ethnicities, ages, skill levels, genders and eye colors are cheating rampantly in online chess.

[@axileus9327]

Hasn’t happened since the ghost of Kiev

[@axileus9327]

@@QuantumHistorianmust have missed that one.

[@SomeMind]

I suggest you cover the game Kramnik played about 10 days ago. Aman from the Chessbrahs channel covered it, the video is titled 'Was Kramnik's Opponent Cheating?' and don't forget to check the graph. Kramnik literally chooses to fixate on the numbers (btw he doesn't even understand how exactly accuracy is calculated and he admits it) and ignores the details of the games themselves. It's funny to see but also very sad!

[@jonathonjubb6626]

Old men get sad eventually...

[@michaelmassaro4375]

@@jonathonjubb6626you’ll be old someday too if you’re lucky

[@cooloutac]

I find it so strange almost all the streamers including danya and Nakamura have a huge drastic increase in performance rating online then they do compared to the OTB Blitz play. All the smurfs what a coincidence. None of the other top 10 most of the top 100 have no such differences. I still remember aman losing to a 1900 at the Olympiad. Lmao.

[@joshuahietala5174]

@@cooloutac How is it strange that person who streams online chess everyday is good at online chess.

[@DelFlo]

@@cooloutachey there’s Kramniks’s bootlicker again

[@jimmyr3044]

This is such an underrated channel IMO. I watch Levy and Agadmator as well, this one is right there with them.

[@hybridwafer]

Right there and even better if you ask me since I don't really care for long winded explorations of alternative lines.

[@epicchess2021]

Thanks a lot glad you’re enjoying! Cheers for watching

[@danp2596]

He's getting old and salty, bless.

[@cougar2013]

But he figured out how to get into the conversation, however curmudgeonly!

[@innosanto]

Maybe he is getting paranoid not salty. Some geniuses do.

[@QuantumHistorian]

But he's not that old. He's 48, that's middle-age not old.

[@diederikbrouwer5425]

@@QuantumHistorian 48 is pretty old for a chess player to perform.

[@trex511ft]

@@diederikbrouwer5425 It's definitely not, just look at Fischer games completely demolishing players still. And Karpov too.

[@unidentified769]

He played it B4 kramnik could....

[@tccandler]

Listen, clearly Kramnik is going too far. That being said, cheating is rampant. It is easy to employ. Magnus recently said that it is an existential threat to chess. How do we know if this "kid" is cheating? We don't.

[@thomassandfield835]

"Vlad the sad" is the new nickname :)

[@Anti-You]

When you think your opponent is cheating, it's difficult to play good moves or concentrate on the game.

[@n0xure]

That's witch hunt logic - the guy cheats because I can't concentrate on the game.

[@andrewvoorhees4062]

That would be a fair assessment IF Kramnik didn't think everyone was cheating... also, many people actually might try harder to beat someone they think is cheating. Kramnik has lost his marbles.

[@doctor_who1]

definition of old: someone older than Kramnik definition of alcoholic: someone who drinks more than Kramnik definition of cheating: someone who beats Kramnik

[@SCBB24]

Even if he was cheating that doesn’t explain his poor play. 78% ? That’s my accuracy as 700 elo 😂

[@tom_curtis]

The better the quality of play of your opponent, the harder it is to maintain high accuracy. 78% accuracy against opponents around 700 elo is not the same thing as 78% accuracy against opponents around 2200 elo, or 2700 elo.

[@SCBB24]

@@tom_curtis True but you missed the point. He made mistakes that gave his opponent tactics. Instead of focusing on that he automatically accuses him of cheating.

[@Momus2024]

this is not true....where do you guys get this stuff?@@tom_curtis

[@cooloutac]

​@@SCBB24probably isn't the first time Magnus talked about when he played name and he couldn't really concentrate on the game and it was one of the worst games he played. I'm sure crime that has already studied this guy's OTB an online play and has already had suspicions of him.

[@osowiecwalking9434]

@@tom_curtis still 78 percent and gm level is pretty poor. normal games at 2800+ level are normally 85+

[@daviddurbin7682]

Hikaru is correct. Kramnik is behind the times. Doesn't understand internet chess and doesn't understand that fide ratings are sadly lacking in accuracy

[@cooloutac]

So I guess he's also correct when he said that over 20% of the players cheating title Tuesday? But he's not crazy just kramnik is right?

[@cwp24]

@@cooloutacwrong. David is right. Kramnik comes from a completely different school of chess. He is behind the times and the way he went about his anti-cheating crusade was terrible and unprofessional. He went from being a respected former world champion to a laughing stock. Stop defending him.

[@stefan4159]

That's exactly why FIDE decided to do a review of their rating system. In part, because it doesn't reflect the true strength of many players below 2000, especially younger players or people who trained a lot during Covid online.

[@cooloutac]

@cwp24 yes all the anonymity that leads to immaturity and dishonesty is completely new to him. He can't believe he's playing on a website that's dominated by cheayers but that's only because he's never played any other esport or he would have realized this is just the norm for the past 30 years. I can't blame the guy for having a culture shock but to call him crazy or to say his concerns arw without Merit is completely disingenuous and it just makes me think the people saying such things are just cheaters themselves. Guaranteed 99% of the people commenting on this video probably use multiple accounts on the website which breaks tos and they see absolutely nothing wrong with it because their favorite cheating streamer does the same thing. I have first thought kramnik was just a sore loser when he complained about being flagged by vincent keymer, because I feel that is just simply part of the game. But now I realize that was probably rooted in frustration over the situation of online chess in general being so toxic and fraudulent. And the fact he is being so public and aggressive about this he's literally a hero to all the other professional chess players and all the adults in the room who know better.

[@trex511ft]

@@cwp24 He is still a respected former world champion, no matter what random scrubs on the internet say.

[@jamesoshea580]

He's such a sad sad sad man.

[@RemnTheteth]

I don't even know chess theory, but I could follow this game really well with your analysis. :) And it didn't seem like white did anything suspicious. He just always understood tempo, and that it's not just about where you're going, but what you're leaving behind - and black definitely opened opportunities for white - like with pawn to f3, opening the queen check. So it's not really what Dyachuk did, it's what Kramnik failed to do... which was play better than his opponent, apparently.

[@epicchess2021]

Yeah exactly and thanks a lot glad you enjoyed!

[@stagna1959]

these 14 y. o. kids often has way worse rating that their actual playing strenght. It takes long time to get their rating to reflect their real level. So kid could be 2400 for all we know and Kramnik declined a lot since he quit active chess career. 70 % accuracy is certainly not something to be proud of. And opponent cant not influence your play even if he is playing 93% You make your own moves and Kramnik made lot of mistakes here

[@laughingocelot2097]

Kramnik is a victim of his own hype. He believes that, because he was the 14th world chess champion all those years ago, he should not lose to anyone lower rated than he is, ever. What Kramnik FORGOT is that he is a world champion in the classical format. Not rapid, not blitz, not bullet. And was competing under the most serious and supportive chess federation in the world (Russia). No doubt this man had the best team of Russian GM's coaching him on his opponent going into those matches. Furthermore, a teenage FIDE Master is just a Grandmaster who has yet to prove himself. Kramnik should give the kid more credit.

[@cooloutac]

Do you think someone that's 2200 OTB is going to be 2700 online bud? Gtfoh. Lmao... almost none of the top 100 playets even play title Tuesday as it is I think Less will in the future. it's going to be nothing but cheating kids and Smurfing streamers left. Rip. That same day kramnik beat dubov in the title Tuesday you act like the guy doesn't know how to play anymore. Lol

[@ervin7178]

@@cooloutacvlad?

[@cooloutac]

@@ervin7178 grow up.

[@sonnyimmortals21]

@@cooloutac getting old means he's not the same guy and will be less consistent and even worse at blitz. 1 move because of attitude or concentration can change a game from good to bad even against a much worse player overall. Calling everything cheating when clearly played over aggressively and poorly is silly. If he played that game against dubov he would have had the same result.

[@cooloutac]

@@sonnyimmortals21 right, bes5 duboc but it's meaningless because now he's inconsistent. Seems like he's been a steady 2900 for a while go look at his profile tell me how inconsistent he is. At the top level such inconsistency is something suspicious my friend. Nothing suspicious about this kid losing 100 points in the past year OTB being only a 2200 rated player. playing at the level of a 2900 against kramnik online.....right. this kid barely even plays any OTB and now we know why.

[@genericnameSS]

Kid was 10 when covid started and didnt have a chance to play in events. He is way underrated

[@Glock7eventeen]

Unfortunately he likely was cheating. It is insanely easy to cheat online and get away with it. Nobody cheats for the entire game, they save it for certain sequences making them virtually impossible to catch.

[@suninlaw]

I love this "live" commentary style! More please!!!

[@macca3281]

I heard vlad accused his wife of cheating with Garry the g pawn! Someone give tht man a hug!

[@epicchess2021]

😆

[@Luca-yb4sh]

Only two possible outcomes in a Kramnik game: he wins or you're cheating,

[@cinifiend]

Kramnik is quickly becoming more well known for baselessly accusing everyone around him of cheating vs his real chess accomplishments. This old timer should just retire, he doesn't have the chops for modern competitive chess.

[@thediamonddrillingguy6716]

That commentary was Naroditsky level..

[@epicchess2021]

Haha I wish but I try my best lol thanks a lot though glad you enjoyed

[@citysim7375]

So sad. Completely crazy his cheating delusion.

[@clementbrd8629]

Of course nobody cheats behind his computer, he is crazy, only a world champion ans you are a genious with 500 Elo :)

[@blue_red_screen]

​@clementbrd8629 so every accusation has to be believed because of how much kramnik achieved?

[@YtubeUserr]

this game by white is suspicious though. Although Kramnik is delusional when reporting cheaters.

[@citysim7375]

why is it suspicious to you? @@YtubeUserr

[@clementbrd8629]

@@blue_red_screen not accusation, only some factuals datas, a problem with the truth ?

[@mannybolletta]

guy is just a loser who can't handle loosing

[@gyulailevi]

But its not losing what makes him a loser... It's not the shame to lose against potential rising stars in his age at all.

[@michaelmassaro4375]

@@gyulaileviyou mean ‘at’ his age but yes he’s getting older but if he were up to par he could still win a lot of young players are really good you’re right but it’s not age maybe lack of prep

[@cooloutac]

​@@gyulaileviI guarantee the kids going to be nothing but an online player.

[@MMAengineer]

@@cooloutac yup, online 99% accuracy, otb 65%, coincidence? I think not

[@user-bk9fk2tq2z]

*losing

[@compromisedssh]

The Kramdaddy isn't (completely) wrong. Dyachuk had an unfair advantage-- he leaned on his life experiences and the individual traits that built up in his mind (via nature AND nurture), giving him a self-contained, mental chess engine that Kramnick's processor is incapable of running. Dyachuk NEVER would have won this game without that unfair IQ advantage. If that's not cheating, then I don't know what is. No wonder Kramnick reflexively reported Dyachuk as a cheater (without bothering to analyze the moves after his temper subsided). Everyone who watched them play can see that the hardware mismatch was akin to Kramnick showing up to a gun fight with a knife.

[@epicchess2021]

😆

[@billmorrigan386]

I think his opponent is a shameless cheater. Not only did he beat Kramnik position-wise, he also beat him on the clock. What's more, the cheater is a very weak player (he might even cheat OTB to get those 2200 FIDE points) because he didn't even bother to protect his king. What happened is the engine saved the game, protected everything, started the counterattack and quickly checkmated Kramnik. Easy-peasy. Kramnik is no match for modern engines, especially in blitz games. It's hard to play vs a lot of engine moves. This explains low quality (around 80% accuracy) for Kramnik's game. The low quality is also likely in very difficult positions that require very deep long calculations. That's precisely what occurred in this game: to get good accuracy very deep calculations were needed like 7 moves ahead with many, many sidelines and variations. The engine did it easily and destroyed Kramnik as easy as pie. So, that's what I think.

[@thomasmount7388]

you are the only person posting that this guy was cheating. However, you are about the only one providing an explanation for the origin of your view. The thing you said about the perversion of a player's accuracy when the other player is an engine definitely holds a lot of water for me! I'm hesitant to call Kramik wrong on this. If he's still a sane man, and not ill, then he'd know an awful lot more about the subject than I.

[@kitano5895]

Sadly it's just pointless. He is a kid that won a master tourney last month which didn't get updated yet(FIDE updates monthly) and got an elo over 2300 after the update(2637 elo performance). Also he played in my chess club before he transfered to the Bundesliga and hell I can tell he is something entirely different than ANYONE I've played before. You feel the power in his play and strength immediately. And the worst part is he doesn't even look at the board much, kids are really unique. Future 2600+GM mark my words.

[@billmorrigan386]

@@thomasmount7388 Kramnik still plays at the top GM level in blitz. FMs and even GMs cannot easily destroy him in blitz, deliver a mate in 35 moves and also win on the clock (but an engine can do that). It's highly unlikely to beat him like that even by Magnus and Nakamura combined. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's important to understand that most of comments supporting cheaters are from, like, 1500 players or so. They don't calculate more than 3-4 moves ahead and rely completely on the engine and a very shallow understanding or calculations. In reality many moves ahead are calculated with a lot of branching out at 2700 even in blitz. You can feel it even in this very game when Kramnik resigns seeing the mate in 3 moves instantly - in a split second. While his opponent probably picks up various engine moves (mostly between 1st, 2nd and 3d lines) and rarely makes his own moves. That's shameless cheating IMO. The game itself is very sharp and tactical (where computers shine). It's far more difficult and deeper than cheaters try present it by thinking 1-2 moves ahead and then call Kramnik weak or crazy. He is super strong blitz player even online. Also, the way this cheater is calmly playing on the Queenside is yet another indirect proof (not 100% of course; there's no 100% in real life--it doesn't exist) of cheating. Only engine can neglect the kingside like that calculating 10+ moves ahead being secure in its calculations that the king is safe even if it's completely exposed from the human perspective, i.e. the engine sees everything and too far ahead. What's more, I think this player is even below his 2200 FIDE. I think he also cheated OTB.

[@RichACBlues]

@@billmorrigan386 its insane to call a guy who is regularly 2900 blitz player online, who literally beat Dubov that day, a weak player lmao. and an FM who plays 2700 online and regular beats 2900s in titled tuesday? Thats enough common sense for a noob like me to know, something is fishy there. lmao...

[@billmorrigan386]

@@RichACBlues That's my opinion. Sorry. I think he also cheated OTB a lot and I think he can't even play 2200 FIDE.

[@paulsilva515]

The floral commentary is top tier. I feel like I'm watching a movie 😂😂

[@epicchess2021]

Thanks a lot glad you enjoyed! Cheers for watching

[@weswes5876]

Awesome game for both sides! Kramnik had a great attack going. But he probably got tripped up by time pressure. Counterattack was amazing!

[@user-kc6wu2gc2m]

I can see how after 100 Cram's reports they finally find a cheater and Cram goes "what did I tell all of you"

[@usptact]

When you set out to expose cheaters in chess, everybody will start to look like one.

[@karimmoorad9649]

As a zero elo rated player, I would have beat Kramnik there too😂

[@jeanpaulkassdale]

This is the definition of "finding excuses".

[@Raghuveer2798]

Kramnik's logic: I can't be wrong because I am a former world champion.

[@ccdj35]

Well I am a 1300 myself and I can find best moves in puzzles that are 2000-2500 level sometimes. My average puzzle rating is 2000. Once his opponent felt he is brutally attacked he gave up on theory and focused on finding best moves to defend the king and managed to do that. Naturally the opponent started to gain advantage due to extra piece towards the end.

[@RyanHellyer]

Ignoring the cheating allegations, that was an epic sacrifice and it made for a very interesting game. Even toward the end, I would have picked Kramnik as the winner. I liked that I could actually see all the logic in the moves. Some of these GM level games (or perhaps FM level in this case) are just beyond me and I can't figure out why they're moving where they do, but this one was crystal clear at all times. Thanks for sharing :)

[@yugiohfanatic1964]

Imagine Bobby Fisher in Titled Tuesday. I would pay 100 euro to see him smashing the screen

[@andredutoit1131]

"The thing is he is accusing too many players of cheating. Even if in some cases he might be right, no body believes him". I agree. He has called wolve to many times and has now lost his credibility in the Chess community. Very sad. He was such a brilliant chess genius in his prime.

[@johngrey5806]

Kramnik getting smashed by a Ukrainian teenager is like a microcosm of Putin getting smashed by Ukraine. Likewise, Kramnik is losing credibility faster than Putin.

[@sunshower1972]

The only way for Kramnik to reconcile his loss is to insist the opponent is cheating. Kramnik is a legend of the game and should be regarded as such, his ego can't integrate that younger players can get so proficient in tricky situations. Kramnik needs a coach to hype him up and create some changes in the thought patterns near the end. It's tough to watch players that come from a different epoch struggle in the digital chess age.

[@mcronrn]

That kid must have been hyped to beat Kramnik, who no doubt ruined the moment by accusing without cause… 😢

[@epicchess2021]

Yeah , real shame

[@cooloutac]

Or he was hyped enough to cheat against him. He's terrible OTB for some reason but apparently he was labeled as a prodigy and future world champion years ago so he's got the pressure he's got to live up to. It's probably why he sticks to only playing online and barely plays OTB. He lost 100 points this year including 20 points in January and is only a 2200 player offline.

[@joshuahietala5174]

@@cooloutac I have no idea where did you get that information, but in after looking up his FIDE profile, none of the things you say are correct. In January 2024 he gained 6.8 points according to chart founded in his profile. If you are talking about his blitz rating, well he didn't play OTB blitz in January. In 2023 he gained a lot of rating points in all time controls. He had one month where lost 51 points, but that's about it. So, saying that he barely plays OTB is incorrect and probably he likes to play online, because he's travelling options are probably very limited, because you know why.

[@cooloutac]

@joshuahietala5174 he played two games in January lost 20 points I got it straight from fide man he was 2300 in June across the board. He lost 100 points in everything. . The only reason I looked up his stats is because someone in the comments claimed that his real rating was 2300. Apparently it used to be lmao. Are you seriously telling me that claimed he barely plays otbs incorrect ? Hahaha he doesn't play OTB man he just plays online. Did he even play 30 blitz Games a year I didn't count. Lol. That in itself is suspicious. The guys good enough to be smashing super GMS and finishing the top places in the title Tuesday against the world's best but he never plays otb. Yeah we can assume why.

[@joshuahietala5174]

@@cooloutac No he didn’t, he played two and gained 6.8 rating points, the same profile we saw in the video, then “individual calculations” “January 2024” and there you can see that he gained 6.8 it’s not even likely to lose 20 rating points in two games. Nobody plays OTB blitz, unless it’s tiebreaker or world championship. Let’s be honest. He lost 51.4 points in July 2023. He didn’t lose rating points in rapid or blitz. In 9/12 months he played at least one classical chess game. That is not “barely” and besides it’s not like he has money and time to play as many classical games as possible in a year, and it’s not like FIDE rated tournaments are appearing every weekend. Once again, he won because Kramnik played poorly that’s it. He doesn’t constantly win against superGMs. He plays OTB, so saying that he never plays OTB is incorrect.

[@altonbrek]

Kramnick's best move was to cry wolf! 😮

[@Yakcool]

Maybe Kramnik is like a spouse who has cheated so they expect cheating to be done on them.

[@seijakarjalainen]

Big Vlad has to face the fact that he will never be as good as doctor Alekhine was at his age.

[@michael-grandpamoses2571]

If Kramnik was playing himself he'd accuse him of cheating

[@p_louis]

Everyone who plays with Kramnik should report him for cheating.

[@brukujinbrokujin7802]

Kramnik doesnt understand the current meta blitz. He still play outdated aggresive move. Most player play engine moves and keep the position secure, grind the enemy until they make inaccuracy.

[@victorfinberg8595]

actually, there's a video hikaru posted, where kramnik blundered, accused his opponent of cheating, and hikaru is laughing hysterically

[@epicchess2021]

Oh yeah I saw that in the endgame with king a6 winning line hahaha

[@cooloutac]

He was in time trouble it happens. That was against his fellow smurfing streamer Aman from chessbrah. Both him and Nakamura have drastic increase in performance ratings online than they do in OTB Blitz. In fact I remember aman losing to a 1900 ,someone 600 points lower than him , at the Olympiad lmao. You have to understand those guys literally built their careers by cheating with the permission of the website for streaming entertainment. They're not trustworthy off the bat.

[@victorfinberg8595]

@@cooloutac you are a LIAR, and a fool.

[@cwp24]

@@cooloutacthis is such an unbelievably bad and ignorant take. Hikaru has been outspoken about cheating in chess and wants more to be done to combat it especially in online chess. You’re really sounding a lot like kramnik himself right now.

[@Harlin67]

@@cooloutac He blundered, so he lost. Why do we need a paragraph of illogical commentary to explain basic logic...

[@kurtkaufmann4553]

I made a 98% accurate blitz game today. It just happens, mate! And go to hell everybody who’s calling me a cheater cause I’m not! Kramnik has gone crazy for sure! I can no longer respect him.

[@dselect1383]

He's reaching his Victor Meldrew era by the looks of it

[@williamtenholder3391]

I really love your commentary ❣️ Spot on !! Historically Brilliant !!!

[@epicchess2021]

Thanks a lot glad you enjoyed! Cheers for watching

[@christiang3388]

This is obvious cheating if you know anything about chess. But the problem with Kramnik is that he has cried wolf so many times that no one believes him now. Analysis: The book moves ended on move 10 according to the Lichess database. After that let's see the moves that white played rated by Stockfish. 11. b4 (1st move) 12. a4 (1st move) 13. Rxa5 (3rd move) 14. Bb2 (not top 5 move but natural) 15. Bc4 (1st move) 16. Rfa1 (1st move) 17. Kxg2 (1st move - "only move") 18. Kg1 (1st move - "only move") 19. Bf1 (1st move - perfect defence) 20. Qe2 (2nd move) 21. Bg2 (1st move) 22. b5 (1st move) 23. Rxa5 (5th move) 24. Rxa5 (1st move - "only move") 25. Nxd5 (1st move) 26. exd5 (1st move - "only move") 27. Ra7 (1st move) 28. Qe6+ (1st move) 29. Ra8+ (1st move) 30. Rxf8+ (1st move) 16 out of 20 moves were computer's best move where 4 of them were "only moves". This is Magnus Carlsen level.

[@chrisdepasquale4307]

Since when does finding the only legal move to get out of check ("only move") put you at Magnus/Stockfish level? Or recapturing after initiating an exchange of pieces? Watching the game, the only move White played that surprised me was Bb2, as it didn't seem like there was time for that in view of the Black attack. Yet this move is not rated highly by the engine. All the other moves White chose can easily be found in seconds by any 2200 rated player. Of course, had Kramnik found Bh4 when it was strong, or Bc5 later, the result likely would have been reversed.

[@sonnyimmortals21]

You have to understand, getting old sucks, so i can empathize. He thinks he's the guy that played Kasparov and rarely lose to anyone. He's more like Levy these days.

[@williamtenholder3391]

What are his motives... Playing on line ? When he is now seen as a Bully ... Disgraced former champion.... Too Bad !!

[@sinking1902]

Game has passed him by.

[@migmax2]

Fair Play is not on Kramnick’s dictionary…

[@TheMrBennito]

Kramnik seems to love destroying the reputation he built when he was at the top of his game. His lack of sportmanship is a laugh.

[@natalieharris3869]

Thank you Kramnik for all of the lols and many more to come. Bless your heart ole boy

[@garry6485]

in the evening titled Tuesday he is missed a mate in 1

[@balazsio]

He should play on over the board tournaments and see the results. I believe he would be surprised by some of the guys. IMs on their day can play incredibly well

[@anotherelvis]

Kramnik thinks that "average accuracy" is a good measure of cheating, but this is not correct. I agree that it is easy for mid level players to cheat online, but Kramnik's his actual use of statistics is problematic.

[@brownie8090]

Vlad is about to be trolled mercilessly I can hear it now “welcome back everyone in tooooodaaaaay’s video” lolol

[@leluminent]

Its actually kinda scary how he's lost his mind... Crazy what age can do to you.

[@Khak-ye2ns]

IMHO Kramnik's opponent played in a way that raised enough suspicion for any world champion to report the game. I am not saying he was cheating but Kramnik, like everyone else, has a right to report suspicious games and players, IMHO.

[@neilvsalmon6105]

Kramnik is saying a young talented player is not capable of such strong play ? Getting old and not able to play at your best is never easy to accept.....all a part of the golden years .

[@williamtenholder3391]

Brilliant play by the teenager and Kramnut goes crazy !! Again !!!

[@williamtenholder3391]

* Kramnik loosing to The Master !!

[@denzelmartin6201]

Ima 800 and bishop h4 was not difficult. Wouldve done that than take his f pawn.

[@williamtenholder3391]

Actions speak louder than words ..... Right !!! Enjoy 😉

[@kennethwoods6525]

Do not go gently into that good night.

[@epicchess2021]

😁

[@lordwilksy]

Loved the style of commentary

[@tunefish82]

I've started to support Kramnik just for the memes. Go get them cheaters, Vlad! Report them all!

[@mikecroke6078]

It was nice being able to watch the game in real time. I did not think his opponent was cheating at all. However, I am curious what the engine thought of the knight sacrifice

[@peaou]

it went from 00 to +0.6 in white's favour. first notable advantage (+2.2) was given to white after bishop took the horse on d5 - apparantly black had to go Bc5 - Bf2+ to survive, after which valuation would had been at +0.9

[@mikecroke6078]

@@peaou Thank you! I appreciate that

[@YtubeUserr]

it's suspicious play by white. I think white cheated in this game. But because it's Cry Wolf Kramnik, people are not taking it seriously.

[@KristianAxel]

People do cheat 100% online but how do you stop them. Even at 1300 elo

[@trex511ft]

You don't, that's why I don't play online anymore.

[@user-nw4uf6lg3t]

Kramnik is the well known toilet bowl cheater, so he doesn't believe anyone can play well without cheating.

[@trex511ft]

He is the guy who used to go toe to toe against magnus about a decade ago, and you are who again?

[@BigAsciiHappyStar]

If the rook on f8 were a cannon then it could jump over the pawn and take on f3. This is Xiangqi 101 🤪

[@ErkkiNieminen]

It is painful to loose, but ridiculous to whine about it. Old master seems to be fading away into mental unstability.

[@costarich8029]

In my day we called these folks sore losers. Maybe Kramnik's opponents should band together and start flagging him for cheating.

[@laszloberg5540]

Kramnik! Your opponents use the force....you know...from star wars.

[@iamtheiconoclast3]

He immediately reported a young player for cheating without even analyzing the game?? What a loser. I suppose soon he'll have some flashy sounding analysis where he uses the word "mathematics" a lot and then proceeds to spew bullshit numbers at us until we believe he's secretly a mathematician.

[@saimon174666]

300 Elo difference has 85% probability of winning for the stronger side (player should have 8.5 points in a 10 games match). Maybe Kramnik should invest some time in learning stats

[@Trucky21]

Funny how a Russian cries about someone else cheating... how ironic

[@julienferte4662]

"Make a Kramnik" or "to kramnik" = blindly accuse someone of cheating. Well, it's time to take a break or retire, Vladimir. Take some good vacations man.

[@deanepeterson9286]

Tournament directors and chess organizations HAVE to take this problem seriously and do everything they can to prevent/minimize cheating...AND to hand out EXTREMELY severe penalties--loss of all FIDE titles, rating point deductions of 200+ points, barred from the game for 3-5 years, and all of the above and a life ban for a second offense. That said...I've now seen this game analyzed here and on another popular channel, and I really don't think the FM cheated...and I base that on the analysts that are far better than I am, by the computer score of percent correct by each player, AND the fact that the FM did NOT play the main computer move at one key point in the game...when Kramnik had the three center pawns pushed and lined up. Cheating is horrible and inexcusable, BUT you'd better be darn sure (and be able to prove it with evidence) if you lob accusations at someone of this. You shouldn't simply use it as a defense of your ego and poor play.

[@bayuputraswarnadwipa]

The Great Vladimir Kramnik may be forgetful, arrogance, over confident, often disrupting clarity of concentration 

[@blrrich1051]

That's how these females be. Always accusing guys of cheating when i wasn't even doing anything wrong.

[@ratatatuff]

Oh, that's so embarrassing. There's no shame in losing but there's shame in being a sour loser.

[@z3ro5um]

Kram. needs to learn "gg" in Cyrillic.

[@justinspace1]

As an 1100 player I fell like Vladimir every time I lose as well. It is imposible to not in todays day and age

[@klebersonnn]

hope you are joking, at 1100 you are probably hanging material almost every game lol why would you worry about cheaters every loss

[@justinspace1]

@@klebersonnn The point I'm making is with all the engines and playing on computers its imposible not to think that way. But yes lol I do hand pieces constantly

[@dariogreggio7981]

​@@justinspace1its very possible to not feel that way, also you're 1100 you hang pieces and know nothing about chess 😂

[@laughingocelot2097]

​@@dariogreggio7981i seriously despise people like you in the chess community. Sickening elitism because you're, what? Maybe a few hundred points higher than 1100? Doesn't matter what rating you are. The fact is that all these talks and speculations of online cheating have created a serious case of unfounded paranoia for players at all levels. The answer to lower rated players' concerns about cheating is not to insult them. But if they simply can't get over this mental barrier, it might best for them to seek other hobbies or partipate in their local chess club.

[@cooloutac]

​@@klebersonnnbecause people cheat at all levels as Eric the CEO of the website told Levittown Chess World there's way more cheaters at his level then there is at the top. Seems that chess players don't understand this think about it when you make a new account where do you start? It's not just engine use someone at his level has to worry about it's all the people using multiple accounts like yourself that are a problem.

[@paulmitchell5349]

A least Bobby Fischer had the grace to disappear after getting to the top.

[@Trelmayas21]

Bobby Fischer went crazy and railed against chess, but still managed to have more class and respect than Kramnik is now displaying.

[@RichACBlues]

@@Trelmayas21 Actually Bobby was a tyrant. But everything he said about chess has been proven right, from pre-arranged draws and rigged tournaments, to the exclusivity and politics behind the scenes, to computers killing off the game in 100 years.

[@darthkek1953]

I think poor old Vlad went and krapniked himself.

[@zizhdizzabagus456]

Playing against way stronger opponent with 93 accuracy, also forcing him into mistakes and 78 accuracy. Well. Maybe it's just a young prodigy, why not

[@m34Tubo]

Clearly there are a couple of suspicious elements about White's play and a player of a caliber of Kramnik notices those of course: White's move times were super fast and accurate (not credible, even for a 14 year old wunderkind), 93.0 vs 78.4 is NOT a normal accuracy you see between 2 human players (gap is unnaturally high), finding the active counterplay Ra7 with less than 40 sec on the clock is incredible (in the truest sense of the word). So yes, suspicion of cheating is absolutely justified.