Episode 1 - Special Guest - Rachel Maddow

Rachel Maddow and Bradley W. Hart discuss the origins of fascist movements in the United States in the 1920s and 1930s. In detail, they will examine some of the leaders of these movements, their supporters, and the Americans that stood in resistance.

[@KCNY11787]

It is a pleasure to hear you both speak with admirable intelligence. The US citizens that need to hear this will not. However, I am quite grateful.

[@PaulieTan]

This is the reason why I am not going to vote for Mr Trump and the Magas his Party!

[@Tsudkyk]

Maddow is the perfect first guest. Ultra was amazing, not only informational but excellent story telling as well.

[@sharonwilbourne7256]

Great history lesson. Thank you for doing this for us

[@johnbarker5009]

Great video. I didn't think the day would come, but right now it's critical for all of us to understand the threat we're seeing from fascism.

[@alexandrawhitelock6195]

History repeats itself

[@frankmorris4790]

@@alexandrawhitelock6195 Only in unarmed civilizations. We're safe pumpkin, we have Lawyers guns and money......

[@amberharmsen2497]

I love the use of the lowercase f in fascism Fascism is the italian original fascism is its derivatives We currently face neofascism

[@amberfun9148]

@@amberharmsen2497thank you for pointing that out.

[@MrBreeze66]

You are supporting fascism. I’m sure the Nazis thought they were in the right and the Jews were intrinsically evil too!

[@jamescampbell2521]

This history is so fascinating & important for all Americans to learn. It should serve as a warning.

[@uchidaoginome]

Maddow once came to a hotel I was working at for dinner back in...I wanna say, 2016. We had a Michelin starred restaurant that drew a lot of celebs but she walked up alone to ask if it was "okay for her to visit our restaurant. I walked her over to the restaurant entrance I didn't tell her that back in the Air America days I called into her "Ask Dr Maddow" segment to clarify what a person who practices judo was called and she was as affable and polite on the phone as she was in person. In hospitality we're supposed to pretend we don't know who famous people are so it's more like I couldn't tell her but If they gave out Michelin stars for genuineness and intelligence, she'd have at least two! It's judoka, by the way. The Japanese suffix "ka" is like "ist" in English but no one says "judoist"! You'll hear "judo player" more than "judoka" but both are okay.

[@chuckgrigsby9664]

Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Hayes, Nicole Wallace, Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, ... just a few of the reasons I keep my connection to a cable box.

[@auhsz9140]

None of these people are leftists wtf

[@Phobiaphiliac]

Majority report, John Oliver, John Stewart, alll good sources ofnews

[@ManiacRacing]

Tall muscular AND into martial arts....amazing how everyone on the internet is attractive and interesting. Yeah right. Lol

[@sherrieshatzen3801]

If you have a computer with internet access you can still follow a lot of this on KZbin.

[@coyotezee]

Lots of people who need to know this will not likely learn of it, but the more voices state this history the better. To quote an old comic strip character, Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us."

[@katybassett8549]

Yes..thank you.

[@RaoulDuke-bc1pm]

Charlie Brown used the same quote following yet another loss by the Peanuts gang's baseball team.

[@movingpicutres99]

Thank you! I am so glad my generation was inoculated against Fascism during the aftermath of WW2.

[@HLBear]

My bestie growing up had parents who were under 10yo in concentration camps during WWII. The remainder of their families came to the US after being freed. And they fell in right behind Donnie. 🤨 Sometimes the abused are vulnerable to the next abuser.

[@TommyStahr]

The GOP ARE FASCISTS! Whatever generation you're of, if you're in America you're looking at the end of democracy and the rise of the last Beast. Rev 13:11-16 is America. 2Thess2 is here, Trump is lawless, the church is fallen.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

@@TommyStahr You have no clue what the word Fascism even means.

[@vagueratcooltrain4266]

WORTH IT! Watch this please! I was born in 1953 and I am still realizing how much my parents would have enthusiastically welcomed all of it. Please watch this!

[@wongleebruce]

Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow did spectacular work on Air America in 2004. The coming fascist government is a four alarm fire for minorities, people of color and for political foes of Donald Trump. Ethnic cleansing in America is very real and very possible where the military, also the possible use of Russian troops on loan, and ICE will start picking up illegals, legals, and people of color off the streets and put them into detention camps. Americans need to prepare for their own personal exit strategy in the event this election goes sideways. This podcast is a huge public service. Thanks Rachel and Bradley for coming on the show.

[@annenelson5656]

I was born in 1957 and my parents were Roosevelt “New Deal” democrats to when they passed away a few years ago. They hated Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes. My dad fought in WWII and never would have accepted any form of fascism. It’s sad to think your parents would and I’m sure they weren’t alone or possibly unusual.

[@graffitiwomen]

I understand, my parents(born in 1947) used to vote across the spectrum, but were mainly Democrats(as were my grandparents, born in 1905,1909, 1918 & 1920). My Dad was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in early 2016 and he was so, so disgusted by a chance of a Trump presidency. As far as this video goes, I majored in American Studies in college, and the US was in an isolationist period from the end of WWI until well into the mid 20th century. We turned war refugees away. That's just shameful and something that shouldn't have happened. I just started watching(I'm at 4:37 on the video), because it is SO IMPORTANT to look back and learn from our mistakes! Have a good week!

[@arcanondrum6543]

The New Deal was more than 4 decades of prosperity for the economy and for all Americans. Cutting Taxes for wealthy people to trickle down to the rest of us was sold to Americans by an actor and a Press whose ownership benefited from those cuts - poor people don't own media. Not only have most of those Cuts not been restored to New Deal settings but the 43 and 45 Presidents cut more of the same. Even if this video were not about fascism, the oppression of the working class bearing the Taxation burden of infrastructure, debt and the world's most expensive military is itself, extremely oppressive.

[@PaulieTan]

So let us vote for any Nominee with the Democratic Party.

[@stevehurl298]

The Ultra podcast series was excellent. I've heard bits and pieces of this history of American fascism, but Rachel really ties it together, whie presenting many historic details I'd never heard. We need to pay attention to this b/c this awful b.s. is coming around again. So thanks for doing this new series!

[@HeyGuy4321]

In general face cuckism. Not my legendary fascism

[@mikedearing6352]

The laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, if you follow the garbage truck long enough, you too will smell like garbage

[@mikedearing6352]

The laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, if you follow the garbage truck long enough, you too will smell like garbageThe laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, if you follow the garbage truck long enough, you too will smell like garbage

[@nnonotnow]

Thanks for getting this topic out there. Most Americans aren't really aware of this in our past. Fascism always includes a racist component. Fascism brings organization and structure to bigoted hate movements

[@markhamstra1083]

Fascism does not always include a racist component. It’s true that fascists argue for and seek to exploit an Us vs. Them split that will give them power as the protectors and leaders of Us, but race is only one of the ways to define the plane of cleavage between Us and Them. In fact, the division in Italian Fascism, for example, was defined more in romantic cultural terms as to who were the heirs of the Roman Empire and the like than it was in racial terms. Fixating on racism as a necessary, defining component of fascism can produce a blind spot that will let fascists exploiting other divisions go unrecognized.

[@mikedearing6352]

The laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, if you follow the garbage truck long enough, you too will smell like garbage

[@marty4278]

@@markhamstra1083I think it can safely be said that here in the United States, racism is a definite component of fascism.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

@@marty4278 : There is no Fascism in the US.

[@marty4278]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. There WILL BE if trump gets in the White House. It doesn’t happen overnight. Trump has been working on this for 8 years now.

[@loopwithers]

As a Brit, I rank this as by far the most fascinating and informed video I have watched on KZbin since records began. Thank you!

[@PaulieTan]

Thanks

[@monnieeeeyt7037]

I always learn from Rachel Maddow!!! ❤️👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👍🏾

[@sharonwilbourne7256]

Me too.

[@michaelhellmer8531]

The most frustrating thing of all this is that interest in History (ours, in particular) is pretty much crushed at an early age, when kids are learning the "Hurray For The USA" version of history, which tends to be extremely boring. I don't think I learned any real History until I began taking college level courses -and how many people take history courses, or even read history, after they've completed the obligatory high school requirements?

[@dorothyjohnson6743]

Well, I certainly do!

[@myrabeth77]

My formal education in history was so unengaging, I didn't even know I loved the subject until I started getting into documentaries in my 30s.

[@eleanormedina6703]

Even my kid was taught in the usa was American Indians r alcoholics.that is all she was taught. She was appalled that. GREAT SPIRIT ? MADDOW. how dare you spread. You skipped your religion.

[@anthill1510]

I am from Germany and when I first heard that in the US you say the pledge of allegiance in school, I didn`t believe it. I researched and found out it`s true and I cannot tell you how scarily fascist simply that looks to a German.

[@stevengrotte2987]

I DO!

[@shirleyandrews1152]

Love Rachel❤ thank u for having her on. I have subscribed, u sound like an important source of info.💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸

[@tommonk7651]

Great podcast idea. Sadly, the people that need to see it and learn these lessons are not likely to watch or listen.... I think we are ashamed of parts of our history and just don't want to know about it.

[@ultravioletiris6241]

Haha just wait till you learn what the Rhodes Trust is

[@maryw3989]

I was born, raised and educated in Michigan and they never talked about Henry Ford and his shady past in history class. Full disclosure I buy and drive Chevy vehicles.

[@hankvandenakker4271]

LOOK UP "FORDLÂNDIA, PARÁ BRASIL". FORD TRIED TO CREATE A COMPANY TOWN.

[@christhompson3750]

Henry Ford being an anti-Semite and was one of America's staunchest proponents of eugenics. Ford published a set of anti-Semitic pamphlets called, "The International Jew." He also spread conspiracy theories through his newspaper too.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

An honorable mention for Randi Rhodes, who, back during the administration of George Dubya Bush, warned us that the relationship between our government and outfits like Haliburton, was Fascistic. She was way out in front of the pack.

[@paulthepainter2366]

And a fantastic guitarist

[@TV2-Live]

@@paulthepainter2366 🤣

[@LordAereaus]

@@paulthepainter2366 🤣🤣🤣

[@Phobiaphiliac]

And randy Rhodes who died from boeings aircraft malfunctions

[@Missunderstood103]

We all knew. We could do nothing about it.

[@hapennysparrow]

So interesting and horrifying to see a replay of some of those same ideologies and methods of widespread propaganda in the US at this moment. There are differences, but the same ploy and objective. Real History needs to be taught. I found that Howard Zinn's "Peoples History of the United States" explained so much that did not make sense when I graduated High School in 1967. I discovered Howard Zinn years later, and puzzle pieces fell into place. You and Rachel Maddow are uncovering yet more, and it is urgently needed at this time. God speed. The parallels to 1930 and 2024 are stark. Bonhoeffer is a great resource to see the parallels also. Don't bother to read Erick Metaxis's "Bonhoeffer." His biograpical book is slanted towards the Christian Right Dominionist persoective. The mixture of the occult with Christianity found in many Evangelical Churches is disturbing. I have witnessed it myself and learned that Hitler combined occult beliefs with mainstream Christianity in his power grab. The occult promises its adherants power, as does Dominionism. The two go hand in hand because the real God they worship is power, wealth, and control. The Christ of the Beautitudes is nowhere to be found in this mindset. I look forward to your next episode. Thank you for being a truth telling historian. It is vitally important work.

[@mikedearing6352]

The laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, religion is usually a shield, a hiding place for cowardly butchers in high offices. This shouldn't be confused with ordinary believers, it's almost always the leaders who cause war, lies about war, and they hide behind the beliefs of the people they claim to represent. The churches did this centuries ago and it was effective. Muslim leaders, Christian leaders and today it's the Zionist leaders.

[@jedimindtrix2142]

Amazing work. Rachel is extremely well versed on these topics and was an amazing choice to bring on. I worry very much about the resurgence of these ideals dressed up in the MAGA movement today. Its very important people hear this stuff and recognize truth about our society and the myth that America couldn't lose its way. People who don't appreciate or study history are very susceptible to being coerced into modern fascist movements without even realizing what it is they are supporting. The recent CPAC where Jack Posobiec happily proclaims the "end of democracy" and says they will "replace it with this" and then raises his fist was chilling. He poceeded to joke about not accomplishing it on Jan. 6th. Thats a stark reminder to all of us that we are not far removed from the days and figures you spoke about on this podcast. I look forward to watching the rest of your work. The German American Bund has always fascinated me so im anxious to see what you have put together on that as well. Keep up the good fight! 💪

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

She's really not versed in anything, especially history, and only in surface level, paid pap they hand her to repeat. Psobiec is a paid russkie asset. None of what you see has anything to do with "muh fascism", and all of it is Soviet-era active measures operations.

[@naninolovyou6388]

Rachel, do you EVER sleep! We are so lucky to have you.❤ I love you for being so vocal and doing it in a lay person way! I miss your show every night….

[@sheilahill981]

I respect Rachel Meadows she should have been the one asking the QUESTIONS on Thursday night!!! She’s a real journalist. 💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙 DEMOCRACY!!!🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙

[@TM-hl7ir]

Thank you Dr Hart. Yes, this “uncomfortable” history must be discussed. It seems more than necessary in the present days when this unknown history is trying to be repeated. Thanks for your research, that of Rachel Maddow and your podcast.

[@mikedearing6352]

The laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, if you follow the garbage truck long enough, you too will smell like garbage

[@seanshankredemption1603]

The uncomfortable part is the need to learn how liberals have historically sided with fascism over leftist class politics. Rachel Maddow is one of those liberals.

[@robinbeers6689]

That young picture of Mussolini looks just like Stephen Miller.

[@JT39956]

But on ozempic

[@mikem5454]

Coincidence??? Hmm.....🤔

[@martin2289]

Miller has much more of an evil Nazi vibe.

[@dougthomson5544]

@@mikem5454Chuckle, just put a picture of the adult Miller next to one of Joseph Goebbels.

[@annenelson5656]

I saw a photo of Stephen Miller in his third grade class photo. He looked exactly the same. You can pick him out from the other kids immediately. Even then he had those dead eyes.

[@dianesawtell7216]

Thank you so much for doing this podcast. This is important to know about our history. I hope more people find you and learn from you.

[@connyleicht6567]

Great historic content! Thanks very much.

[@galenwilliams9839]

This is such important history to understand at this time. Thank you.

[@LG-ct8tw]

The parallels are so obvious between then and now, it's spooky. I'm convinced that Steven Miller, Steve Banon etc are absolutely pulling lines straight out of this era, feeding them verbatim to Trump. Putin from the other side of the pond is loving it and financing it just like Hitler did. I learned so much about my country's past and present from Ultra . I didn't know this side of Ford or Lindbergh, the Koch and Musk of yesteryear.

[@ingridgrattidge5887]

Thank you both so much!

[@susanpilling8849]

This was fascinating. I'm from the UK, and having been born less than 10 years after the end of WW2, I was aware of the history of fascism here with Oswald Moseley and his blackshirts. More recently, I have learnt more about the connection of Edward VIII to Hitler and the Nazi party. Not having much knowledge of US history, except the distorted view of old Hollywood movies, I was surprised that there was such a large facist movement there. Thank you for the podcast. I look forward to following your channel and expanding my knowledge of US history and politics.

[@user-pp6fx7si4g]

I was born in 1932 and actually lived through Nazism in Germany. Very clearly, there is far too much that reminds me of that time, and it's nastiness, in today's USA. Everything around Trump and his followers stinks of Hitler and his followers. Of course, there are also other countries where this is true. I, as a twelve year old teenager, had real personal experience with the Secret Police and the Hitler Youth Leadership, being reported and investigated as an enemy of the State. O.K., I was fortunate in that nothing extremely came out of it for me or my parents. Also, I saw enough other happenings, such as Reichskristallnacht, to become a lifetime adversary of any and all Nazis and their supporters.

[@KCNY11787]

It is a pleasure to hear you both, quite admirable intelligence. Sadly, the American citizens that need to hear this will not. However, I am quite grateful.

[@knockshinnoch1950]

Fascinating discussion. This is what the interview was made for!

[@downtownxmastree6074]

So glad I just found this podcast.

[@PaulieTan]

I wish this podcast is all over the media most esp. FOX NEWS! Thank you Rachel/Bradley.

[@karinlarsen2431]

I agree with Rachel, coming from a kid from the 50’s: nobody wanted to think about anything but the Kennedy’s and Jackies hats and electing a Catholic!

[@mikedearing6352]

The laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, if you follow the garbage truck long enough, you too will smell like garbage

[@mikedearing6352]

The laughing reporter is drunk with TDS, if you follow the garbage truck long enough, you too will smell like garbage

[@ericholder2026]

Absolutely everyone in this country should be made to study this!

[@SheEsq]

I enjoyed all the episodes of Ultra and will be tuning in here. Glad I ran across it.

[@yourcommrad2]

I'm a Marxist and I appreciate this podcast being an analytical form of addressing fascism I look forward to listening to the future episodes

[@tammyengland342]

Thank you both!!!

[@leapingkitties]

I am so glad I found you. This is interesting stuff. And it should be widely known and I think you nailed the reasons why it is not. Thank you.

[@TonusFabri2024]

Thank you both so much for bringing this history into the light. A couple of years ago I was reading old "The Saint" stories from the 30s & 40s, in which the hero was often depicted battling American Nazis. I was sure that they had really existed, so I went searching for history of the movement in my usual online places, such as Wikipedia. Not a word. Spurlos versenkt, all of them. So I was so happy, Rachel, when "Ultra" came out. I am sure you are right, that the history was effectively erased from the American narrative because it was too uncomfortable and clashed with the story -- especially when Gen. Eisenhower became president -- of How America Won the War. We can see the same thing happening now, as right-wing movements attempt to excise knowledge of the history of slavery from the schools.

[@geinikan1kan]

Just listening to you both talk about early American fascism really gives context to contemporary fascism. Of which there are several flavors.

[@Alex0Hamilton]

Fascinating and long overdue.

[@MB5rider81]

Too Fasc too Curious

[@Alex0Hamilton]

@@MB5rider81 Theres bound to be pushback to programmes like this.

[@sheribee831]

You are both heroic and amazing 😊❤🎉

[@mikeemery6741]

This may sound strange, but so much of this topic I "knew", but I didn't know how deep I didn't know it until now! Thank you both for condensing so much of your knowledge into a half hour podcast. I'm hooked! I'll be watching the rest of the series and sharing!

[@user-ys9bl6us8h]

Thanks to you both. I wish the far right would pay attention to the history of fascism and where it leads. Always. Always.

[@maryseguevara8131]

I'm so glad I found this. I think it's important at the top to include a few bullets on where fascism can lead. If I was new to the topic, I could hear, here are some fascists and here are some heroes, without first being informed about the true nature of fascism. We can't assume everyone hears the word and shudders; many are convinced they need a strong leader who makes empty promises of economic prosperity for them by 1) dehumanizing and exporting "deplorables" who compete for their jobs and resources (myth) 2) dropping the department of education and its budget to save money and give the states freedom (because uninformed citizenry is less likely to rise up), 3) fire career civil servants so those jobs can be filled by appointment rather than on merit (which only becomes a powerful tool of the strong man .) It can't be overstated or stated too often.

[@Kassandra66]

Loved it! I'll be sure to listen to all the podcast episodes.

[@user-rd8ed6yu3o]

Robert Kagan's new book "Rebellion" explains this Fascist movement, the original one and new one with a celerity that is truly needed today. The real truth is we were founded as democratic republic with a "wall" between the church and state. As a nation we rose above the royalty and the dictators and created the modern era! Let us as a great nation not go back to the murky past of racism and hate.

[@user-th9yi1nn5k]

I'm so glad I just came across your video by chance. Having Rachel was excellent also, I follow and read everything she puts out. I listened to her 1st episode on Ultra 2 last night. I also just finished watching the Netflix series on Hiltler's. Our times require that we all become aware that if history repeats itself, that we are darn to close flirting with a life that no one wants to relive. So thank you Bradley for your book, which I already ordered, and these new episodes of history that we all need to hear and learn from.

[@prieten49]

The Nazis carefully studied the race laws of the USA when setting up their own racial laws. Interestingly, in some cases, the Nazis did not go as far as some white supremacist laws in the USA. For instance, they didn't adopt the "one drop" (of blood) rule for deciding who was an African American, or in the Nazis' case, who was a Jew. For the Nazis, you had to have three Jewish grandparents to be labeled a Jew.

[@DrachenGothik666]

They particularly studied how Native Americans were treated & genocided, apparently. They supposedly drew a lot of ideas from our treatment of Indigenous Peoples, plus our Jim Crow laws as well. Despite the "stringent" rules on who was a Jew in the Nazi mind, they still chose to commit genocide against an entire culture. They went after many other groups, too, such as the Romany (the Gypsies), the handicapped, Jehovah's Witnesses & LGBTQA people, along with political groups they felt were a threat to their rule.

[@prieten49]

@@DrachenGothik666 I was in no way defending the Nazis. Thank you for elaborating on the history of the Nazis, clearly in a league of their own when it comes to genocide and atrocities.

[@MrBENTON78]

It was the US's Eugenics crusade. Hitler did get a lot of his ideas from this. Ford and Lindburgh were big supporters.

[@DrSerendip]

Loving this discussion and kudos to Rachel Maddow for her work in this area. In my opinion the reason this history is not taught comes back to the disconnection between Economics and Politics. This nation, since its inception, has wrapped itself in the idea that “Capitalism” is its primary Economic System and Democracy, at least a democratic republic, is the primary political philosophy. We need to disabuse ourselves of the idea that economics and politics are two separate entities. The two are like conjoined twins that share vital organs and as a result cannot be separated. Ford was one of the, at least according to the History Channel, men who built America. That series conflates economics and politics and perpetuates the myth that wealthy people built the nation. They modified the process and were themselves fascist, it just was not an available term at the time. Mussolini said, ‘when you cannot see daylight between government and corporations, you have fascism.’ That held true in Spain, Germany and Italy and is actually one of the reasons Oscar Schindler, Nazi businessman who grew a conscience, could do what he did. WE need to recognize that today there is no daylight between corporations (wealthy and powerful people) and government. We all know members of both branches of congress spend most of their time raising money to get reelected and those acquired funds maintain a system that damages the average American. Yet we do nothing to stop it.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

_" Mussolini said, ‘when you cannot see daylight between government and corporations, you have fascism.’"_ Assuming he even said such a thing, Mussolini never referred to businesses, since that is not what the "Corporations" / Corporatism meant in Italy at all. Fascism was the complete opposite of what America for example is today. Fascism was a socialist ideology based on National Syndicalism.

[@twodonks]

Subscribed! Thanks for the very important series. You couldn’t have selected a better guest for your inaugural episode.

[@cabrown308]

Thank you for such a professional and compelling presentation of the most shameful of our history. But what would we expect when we codified slavery and dehumanization in our founding document.

[@carguybikeguy]

What a way to kick off the series! Wonderful work!

[@SkipFrontzJr]

I did a full blown reaction to this. THANK YOU for putting this information out there!!

[@MrBENTON78]

Very interesting. I will loke for your other videos.

[@casard5235]

Thank you for this intelligent and informative 'cast. We learn from the past to deal /help with what' s happening today.

[@mariannalban4819]

Great discussion!

[@LordAereaus]

As a retired History teacher, we need to flood the airwaves, and Tic Tok (shutter) with the true history of the US. The youngest voting generation is for the most part liberal, as most young voters are, because they are still idealistic and not jaded yet. But, the vast majority are completely blind to historical facts about the past century. It is therefore put back upon us the older generations to educate our children. We need to cut through the misinformation and raise competent voters. Blue wave for all eternity!

[@SuperSteeler98]

I'm listening to the book Lies my teacher told me currently. It's so important!!!! This country is built on myths

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

_"The youngest voting generation is for the most part liberal, because they are still idealistic and not jaded yet."_ You sure about that? As a history teacher you probably meant to say that they are progressives (as opposed to conservatives), since I highly doubt they have a clue who John Locke was nor do they believe in a limited government. Or do they? You tell us. If they do, then your country may still have hope... but a "blue wave" ain't it.

[@harmonylifestylewellness]

Is it just me, or is history repeating itself? Great podcast! subscribed.

[@kzinful]

If I'm not mistaken, Henry Ford was awarded the highest civilian award from Adolf Hitler himself. My father fought against the fascists / Nazis in Europe and all the while there were those in our government who sided with them. And also as a sidenote - my mother was from Northern Spain, a Basque, and growing up she knew all too well about Franco.

[@malonesinclaire9201]

Excellent video. I look forward to other episodes.

[@ToddDouglasFox]

In response to driving a Ford Rachel mentioned she drives: from the age of 14 on, I refused to drive a Ford (I drove at that age for a produce business). I found them clunky and junky to drive. Of course that was in the 60s, I haven’t sampled any since. I lived next to American Motors but didn’t like their cars either. Family members worked for these car companies including Ford. Of course we were forced as kids by the school system to go to the Henry Ford museum every year. I played hooky after the first year. I was born in Dearborn and grew up in Detroit. I found the information of everything about Henry Ford gave me a disgusted feeling. My family was virtually apolitical as was the church we attended (if you can imagine the latter!). The extent of Ford’s Nazi ties brings all of this full circle for me. When I was 11 I didn’t have first hand experience of the persecution of Jews but I literally saw how those who were poor were beaten and attacked by mostly white police officers. What really bothered me at that age was the politicization of a war on “coloreds”. I could see how newspapers and many in government were speaking against non whites. I pointed out how newspapers and TV news would not show poor white people being arrested for looting, only people of color. And this was how the legal system and the government justified using the term “race riots”. Of course the adults around me were so uninvolved they basically just stared at me when I expressed outrage. I mean after all I was only 11, what does a kid know? I knew of course that Henry Ford spewed hatred, including against Jews however I didn’t know at that age he was on the cutting edge of being the top influencer of anti-semitism in the English speaking world. No wonder everything about him and his factories, cars, and the Ford museum made me sick to my stomach. Thank you to my 11 year old self for being both honest and astute. ❤

[@thisbushnell2012]

The lazy, infantilistic desire to have one all-powerful leader responsible for all "Adulting" is so obvious to me, as it was shown in the old testament by the Israelites _asking_ for a King to fight their battles for them. That also did not end well.

[@sharondavid-melly1498]

Grateful for this information. Unfortunately, facism is alive today. Glad my family who fought against it won't see the rise. God bless that generation.

[@kellybrown8638]

Wow. Excellent❤

[@1776tonow]

Excellent!

[@jamesharris8541]

Enlightening, thank you both.

[@keithlillis7962]

When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" - Sinclair Lewis

[@DrachenGothik666]

Thank you for putting together this podcast. Important stuff to pay attention to, especially with the fascistic movements currently making waves in our day-to-day politics. You guys are giving me a nice historical perspective that I previously lacked, even though I've heard of some of these folks (particularly Father Coughlin). You're very correct in calling this stuff "deeply uncomfortable history". So, so true. We just don't want to admit our connections to far-right fascist ideology. It's like we can't face it, for some reason, probably because this stuff is so obviously antithetical to our oft-stated "American values". Racism & generalized bigotry, especially the anti-trans "moral panic" going on right now is a very fascist-oriented slant that I've been paying attention to in our politics for the last several years, mostly because I happen to be the targeted demographic that this bigotry attacks. Being a transman in a deeply Evangelical, right-leaning (Trumper) town isn't a walk in the park. I'm lucky in that I've actually experienced only a little discrimination (being in SoCal helps with that privilege), but I can feel the tension when someone finds out that I'm an atheist/anti-theist, gay, asexual transman around here (hey, some people ask--you'd be surprised at the pushy, personal questions I get on occasion). They often try to preach at me, or tell me that they should "rebuke" me (with attendant religious silliness that I have to let them know I couldn't give a rat's ass about) for merely existing. I just laugh & roll my eyes at them. The ones that seem less judgmental &/or curious, I actually try to educate them in as gentle a way as I can--I'm not very good at it, being opinionated & occasionally angry about their views (I really am fed up with the lies people keep telling about trans people in the press & in politics--so many easily debunked ideas, & these morons insist upon still believing them). Hard for me to keep things level when the person I'm engaging with carries painfully bigoted ideas about me & people like me. Sometimes, I have to let them go on their way & not try to change their views at all. It's sometimes too painful, or fosters too loud of an argument, which I actually dislike, despite my willingness to argue my side. Christian Nationalism is extremely dangerous, we should be paying more attention to it, & finding ways to counteract their garbage ideology. Too many current politicians & others on the right are following this junk view (or views adjacent to it), trying to make laws based on the Buybull & their bigoted ideas. I'm not down with that nonsense, & it's something I will fight in any way I can. Thanks for this podcast. You have a new subscriber!

[@briangregory6303]

I was in Catholic school, 7th grade in the late 70s, when a nun told us Judas was in hell and Hitler was in heaven if he made a death bed confession. Antisemitism is still alive and well in the Catholic church.

[@jannoyloe7179]

One of the MANY reasons why I am a "Recovering Catholic,"

[@geoffreysmith49]

The relevant context of the influence of the USSR as a menacing presence to US political and economic power power and the coziness of elite US capital and fascism are rather large elephants in the room in any discussion of the USA in the 20s and 30s. There was a crisis of capitalism from '29 on that FDR tried to address much to the consternation of business leaders who plotted his demise and found fascism a useful tool in those plans. Those liberal business leaders who would form the John Birch society and later fuel Kochism would not have found motivation were it not for their fear and hatred of the Left, a real Left that America had in the 1880s into the 30s when it was crushed. That connection between capitalism and fascism is uncomfortable for Americans. The threat of socialist ideas coupled with capitalism''s recurring collapses provide the environment where fascism exists. We are incidentally in the midst of such a collapse and have been since 2009. When inflation is factored in, working people in the USA are worse off today than they were in the 30s. Our fascist propaganda networks fail to inform us of this fact. I am hopeful you will discuss fascism's triumph in America, its connection to powerful corporate forces because it is thriving here and no longer needs to conceal its ugly face

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

There is no Fascism in America.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

_"That connection between capitalism and fascism is uncomfortable for Americans. "_ There is no connection. Fascism was strictly anti-capitalist and socialist ideology. Go read some history.

[@geoffreysmith49]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. clown. you have no issue with embarrassing yourself here, do you?

[@heronimousbrapson863]

The UK also had a fascist movement in the 1930's led by Oswald Mosely.

[@patriciajohn8196]

So we are quite literally polarizing along the lines of fascism vs DEI Will we diversify, seek equity, and include and serve others, or will we wall off, elevate conformity, serve self and self same Seems to me, Christianity asks that same question and fails on the side opposite most US christians

[@taylowendy]

I have always said the one thing politicians of today are missing is a HISTORICAL background and I will keep saying it. History is IMPORTANT. One of my favorite quotes is from Pliny. I can’t remember the exact quote but gist of it says that those who studies history are sick in the mind because what they study is always repeated. They are never learning from what they study. The events in history are repeated. Why? Why are they repeated? Because we have people in power who don’t know history. How many times have we been in situations where it felt like, “here we go again.” It’s getting old which makes it a problem in learning about history. History teachers are too interested in having students know about dates when they should be interested in knowing the concept, why the event happened, and how is it important. I had a history professor who made the civil war into a daytime soap opera. It was THE best way to learn about history. He made it interesting and hilarious. I didn’t want the class to end. I would have loved a class taught by Rachel Maddow. That would be AWESOME! Politicians need to know history. It’s sad to hear them misquote or misinterpret history. These are the people we elect to represent us and they are looking like huge failures and embarrassing ourselves. To the entire world we look incompetent. To our enemies, we look foolish, stupid, and weak. I wonder how long will the States survive. Our government was based off of Rome and Rome fell. The States has done EXACTLY what Rome did. Rome spread itself out and made itself thin and easy to break. Democracy is falling apart. Can it be saved?

[@tammyengland342]

Great podcast

[@cedarwaxwing3509]

The more I study fascism - and its ancestral forms of authoritarianism- the more I’m starting to worry that democracy is not the preferred form of government for a large segment of the world’s population.

[@MrBENTON78]

Only the uneducated.

[@cedarwaxwing3509]

@@MrBENTON78 Which is, unfortunately, most of the population. Democracy requires an informed, rational-thinking voter population. Authoritarianism requires only sloganeering and blind allegiance to the loudest voice.

[@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.]

@@cedarwaxwing3509 : Well, it's not like Socrates tried to warn people about this... i.e. turning democracy into a popularity contest by allowing everyone to vote, even though they have no clue about politics.

[@cedarwaxwing3509]

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Then it would seem to be obvious that a republic which is founded upon democratic representation is obligated to ensure that its citizens are somewhat educated, have access to unbiased information, and possibly pass a basic “civics” test as a requirement for voter registration (and I’m certainly not referring to the sort of “literacy test” used in the Jim Crow south the purpose of which was to exclude black people from voting eligibility). Given that the US has gutted its secondary education system, no longer teaches much (if anything) about its constitutional government, is adding another “R” (religion) to the curriculum, and that most of our citizens get their “news” from agenda-driven online propaganda sources, I fear that the days of our democratic republic are numbered. Since the only alternatives to democracy are either a monarchy or an authoritarian dictatorship, I guess we are facing dark times ahead.

[@lcd7556]

I'm 72 years old, both of my parents live through the 1930's, WWII, the cold war and McCarthyism. They were, to some some not great but not small extent, involved with communism, unionism, anti-fascism. They spoke little of it, but enough to wish they were willing to say more. I wish they were around to talk to them about this.

[@kimmariefaber4636]

I am fascinated by this show, will follow it for sure. And yes! It is uncomfortable.😮

[@morrispet]

GREAT! Both of you

[@chrisd1]

and in the UK Mosely was really popular, with his third position and "tour of the poor" and (apparent) social compassion

[@ZsuzsannaBudapest]

All those males dressed in white are reminiscent of priestly garments, but the pointed hood is reminiscent of witches' hats. To me, all these costuming signifies that we do what we want, and you can never punish us because you cannot find us or know who we are. scary costuming and equally scary staging .

[@franjkav]

No way Klan costume was inspired by stereotypical witch attire. That’s too feminine for a bunch of bigoted men

[@MrBENTON78]

The new Alt Reiche wears face masks, sunglasses and caps to cover their face.

[@roseannekinney6942]

It's like watching the Tulsa Massacre on a Marvel tv series and finding out it was. REAL. My husband and i graduated from an Oregon high school in the early 1980s and that was absolutely gobsmacking to both of us.

[@ryanreedgibson]

I don't want to nitpick, but Benito Mussolini didn't right the Fascist manifesto by himself. By no means that poser was part of the intelligentsia. A Jewish woman, in order to give the movement a bourgeois level of respectability, wrote and rewrote much of the book. Her name was Margherita Sarfatti.

[@garyholley3476]

I just love listening to Rachel. It is so interesting and smart. ❤

[@Gemini9298]

I was wondering why this history wasn't taught. I just realized looking back that I had never heard of this history information. Very interesting!

[@PG-wz7by]

I'm so glad your channel was recommended. Thank you for the video!

[@johncinfloridausa2236]

My grandmother used to listen to Father Coughlin on the radio. I am not proud of this.

[@pottedferne]

And my grandmother listened to Garner Ted Armstrong!!

[@jamesbuckingham5771]

To add to the history of Henry Ford, when President Roosevelt assigned Auto Executive William Knutson to approach the Titans Who Built America of whom Roosevelt vilified beginning with becoming President, when he could see that war with Germany was looming, William chose to approach Edsel Ford first. Edsel was the one who created Ford Aviation because he felt Edsel would be the easiest to get on board with war manufacturing and if he got board the others like Henry Ford, Pierre Dupont, Walter Chrysler, William Boeing and J.P Morgan may follow suit. Edsel was ready to get back into aircraft manufacturing, however Henry told Edsel, "You can tell Roosevelt that Ford builds cars and if he wants airplanes he can go to an airplane maker. We are not going to war with Germany." So William Knutson went to Pierre Dupont next who ran General Motors. Pierre was labeled "The Merchant of Death" by the Roosevelt Administration because he made profit off of the ammunition he manufactured for the US 🇺🇸 in WW I. Obviously Pierre said no. William was getting no ware fast. Then when Pearl Harbor was attacked, Henry Ford did an about face and built Willow Run, the largest aircraft factory in the world. They built the B24 Bombers faster than any other manufacturer in the world. Ford also built the Jeeps for the US Army. Matter of fact Enzo Ferrari's first encounter with Ford Motor Company was when his car factory was bombed by a Ford built B24 Bomber. It's been said without Ford's B24 Bombers we would have lost WWII. All of the other Titans came on board too when Pearl Harbor was attacked. Pierre Dupont began manufacturing ammunition at General Motors. Chrysler built the first US 🇺🇸 tanks, Henry Keizer began building liberty ships for the US 🇺🇸 Navy. JP Morgan met once a week with President Roosevelt in the White House and handled the financing of the war. William Boeing built the B29 Bombers of which one delivered the two Atomic Bombs to Japan.

[@Havardr_Ash_Kenaz]

This was amazing I watched the entire video. I'm looking forward to the next episode because I hike a trail that runs through the property where camp nordland once was.

[@_o_]

When I first saw this video on my list, I thought it was an alt-right show about how Rachel Maddow is a fascist. I'm glad to have decided to watch it instead of just block the channel on that assumption.

[@barbarakrall4331]

Same.

[@DJS11811]

Congrats to you both for bringing the light to this sdcary history we need to own.

[@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678]

Forgotten -- in part because we needed public support for US dollars going to rebuild Germany, as a bulwark against Soviet Westward expansion.

[@KathyDennis-fy3bg]

So darn informative. I would pay for this class.

[@josephscarpaci3688]

Im 76 & grew up in a family that loved true history. A grandfather who was there at the Triangle Shirt waist factory fire both in the harassment of the sweatshop ladies & watching them die in the conflagraation. A mother who watched the brown shirt crowd around NYC on the way to Madison Square Garden & a father on the front lines from Casablanca to VE Day so it was like i was inside of a history book!

[@roystevens4349]

Thank You

[@IDGem100]

Why isn't it taught? Why is slavery being glossed over? No surprise actually. And sad. Think about the J.P. Morgan associate who arranged a $100M government loan to Mussolini. Or the American ambassador being sent to Berlin and told not to do anything to upset Hitler. Or the rally at Madison Square Garden in 1939. All things that need a place in history classrooms.

[@dorothyjohnson6743]

I remember reading about the US ambassador.

[@adamdymke8004]

When you labelled episode 1 Rachel Maddow I thought I had been recommend a very different podcast. Glad to see I was wrong.

[@hurri7720]

There is a video on KZbin "Oswald Mosley: Hitler’s Fascist Man in Britain". But I would claim a more honest title would be "Oswald Mosley: the British Fascist". Perhaps this video and the book could be just "American Fascists" to be more honest about it. Good work and Rachel is superb as always.

[@Lynnrazz]

Brilliant podcast!! Thank you for creating it.. just in time. We hope.