Rachel Maddow Explains Our Fight Against Fascism (Past and Present) | Offline with Jon Favreau

Rachel Maddow, longtime MSNBC anchor, joins Jon to to talk about her new podcast “Ultra,” which details an all-but-forgotten ring-wing plot to overthrow American democracy - not in 2022, but in 1940. Though the context has changed, Rachel argues that the tactics and strategies to defeat fascism have not and that we can learn from those who defeated the threat the first time.
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0:00 Intro
2:07 Rachel Maddow's New Podcast "Ultra"
14:45 Ad Break
18:27 The Timeless Appeal of Fascism and Having to Argue the Opposite
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38:58 How Did We Stop Fascism in the 1940s? How Can We Do it Now?
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[@cscgnessin]

Rachel’s strength is her storytelling skills. I think it was Colbert who called her the explainer in chief. I became addicted to her show because of her deep dives. If this is the type of work she is doing now I forgive her for stepping down from the daily show. She is essential to our understanding of who we are and where we came from

[@kristiw.1823]

Truly! I would imagine that, in a world more defined by audio and visual, her ability to reveal *primary source* history, to Gen X and beyond, will be invaluable. She has always dealt with journalism in an ethical and effective way; taking those values into the field of history is a true gift.

[@janiebuck2938]

Rachael will someday be considered a great historian.

[@blackmagicsheba57]

Waitin for the mention of Jim Crow or the incarceration of Japanese people

[@liviadix1433]

How many are going to pay attention? She needs more exposure, thank you for this podcast.

[@sempressfi]

@@kristiw.1823 loved how both you and Charlotte worded your comments, thank you! 💙 ethical and effective journalism may save us yet (and voting, of course!)

[@Olive_O_Sudden]

I love Rachel's history and civics lessons.

[@Alexandermhinton]

She is the greatest living investigative journalist. No man is an island and she obviously has help, but RM is an American hero for her storytelling.

[@Olive_O_Sudden]

​@Lucky C What did she say or write that you're claiming isn't true?

[@meeeka]

@@Olive_O_Sudden Don't feed the troll....

[@Olive_O_Sudden]

@@meeeka Trolls need to eat, too.😉

[@Olive_O_Sudden]

@Lugosi What conspiracy theories are you talking about? And what investigation has proven her wrong and what about? Do you even watch her show or have you read her published work? Rachel doesn't tell you who to vote for, and she certainly doesn't tell people that they're Nazis if they vote Republican. If Rachel is calling you a Nazi, it's because you've self-identified as a Nazi or neo-Nazi. She encourages critical thinking and intellectual curiosity and compassion. You couldn't be more wrong about her.

[@reginalluch4030]

I’m in awe at how she connects issues past to present. I miss her. Mondays are my favorite day. Ultra and Bagman podcasts should be in history classes. ❤️🙏🏽

[@lilidundi]

Yeah, miss her, no one like her.

[@leotachaney7322]

Yes, what a great idea! Haha, the Repubs would never allow truth to be taught to our young people.

[@tompaulcampbell]

@@lilidundi No one likes her! Maddow Disease!

[@iwalanisowa1630]

Definitely should be taught from kindergarten on up.

[@johnmcdonald9977]

Not being able to understand the links, that Rachel explains so perfectly, is simply understanding History! If anyone needs commonsense progress then read more "recent history" say 100 years! There has never been a generation which exploded onto the scene, and big tech seems to have taken over the need to understand anything! Mobile phones can answer any question in an instant, and this alone has meant people do not have to think about anything - just ask Google for an answer! This is the dumbing down of the people because they get answers without needing to understand the LESSON!

[@Nicole-cy5es]

To quote Jon: "We ARE extremely fortunate to have Rachel". Great interview. Thanks.

[@marypage1007]

I heard a right wing commentator say that he would rather live in a dictatorship, than have gender reassignment surgery be available to children. It sent chills everywhere. when I listen to you and Rachel I feel hope again for democracy.

[@zannamitchell4723]

Oh my God you are sick Mary page what is wrong with you! He just meant that he doesn’t want his children sterilized and fucked with your whole bunch of pedophiles your son of a bitch motherfuckers

[@cynthianolder3557]

Gender reassignment shouldn't be for children-they are children! but, rather live in a dictatorship? Ugh, no.....

[@marysharvey]

I have long been a fan of Rachel Maddow’s intellect. I miss her on her daily news channel, but, am excited to know she is out there doing more investigative research and making history known to those of us who went to public schools and never heard about this part of our history. Keep up the good and important work Rachel!

[@collins48lc]

You do know it a court case A judge ruled that Rachel Maddow is not real news just a lot of exegaration and her own liberal views

[@anniemac7545]

Me too, I’m Australian and a fan of Rachel’s. She is a great story teller, her books, podcasts and as a presenter.

[@wg5735]

She is highly paid propagandist and professional liar.

[@JK_JK_JK]

Fascism? Failed draconian government mandates for a certain "pandemic"?

[@OC1621.]

I miss Rachael Maddow so much, Rachael took me through the Pandemic I still have to stay up on Mondays Thank you . A History buff.,

[@disky01]

I adore this woman. She's so adept at tying things together, providing context and evidence, and explaining them in a way that makes sense to the most ignorant layperson. I understand why she stopped doing her show daily, but I really miss it.

[@SuniPaz]

Agree

[@itsblitz4437]

Disagree. Her whole obsession with the Trump Russia narrative is all b.s. she loves to promote. Its all bullshit.

[@user-kh1qr6qq1n]

You obviously have some mental health issues then😂

[@ronismith9883]

Love, love, love Rachel Maddow! So smart and articulate! We need more people like these 2 on air!!!!

[@knowledgeispower5142]

I'm so glad that we have people like these 2, on our team.

[@LOSTONITALL]

I am glad they are your buddies as well.

[@MidnightRambler]

Which one is the guy?

[@coimbralaw]

@@MidnightRambler your mom

[@eddie2317]

@@MidnightRambler why would that matter

[@eddie2317]

@Lugosi you're a liar

[@acegillrobbins6570]

Rachel's history research IS so vital for those that CARE about our future! She teaches me every time I find her work! It's infectious and now I will be watching your KZbin podcast to learn from you as well. If I have ANY criticism about this pod cast, it's the very long advertisement in the middle of it... I almost thought the show was over...

[@reggiebald2830]

Rachel is such a great historical researcher! I learn so much from her all the time! Thank you again and again ~

[@carolcisko6768]

Brilliant Rachel …as usual …you are so articulate,knowledgeable, and clear in you work

[@gianthills]

she is sick

[@slk1451]

Kens burns holocaust documentary has unsettling footage of what the US was like before ww2. It’s just like now. I recommend everyone watching it to understand the political mindset of the time. Keep up the good work.

[@tinayang3845]

The timing couldn't be better. So important to shine a light into the dark spots.

[@Pronchick1]

Yes, it is so important to remain aware of this history, Rachel. Thank you!

[@sandraperez2898]

Thank you … Thank you … Thank you!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ Rachel is my idol of mainstream media. She is INCREDIBLE!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

Stick a sock in it!

[@mrsherwood2599]

She lives a few houses down from me. Fascinating woman. Grateful for her existence.

[@nycatlady2314]

I love that the Pod has just the right balance between alarm and optimism. You bring guests who express the seriousness of these times and counter the fear with calm resilience and plans of action. Brilliant. Hopeful. Strong.

[@annefitz7346]

Glad I saw this. I was just getting so depressed I was going stop listening. VOTE BLUE up and down the ballot

[@24Wynn]

@@annefitz7346 Don't ever give up. I am fighting right beside you. Vote Blue Down Ballot!!!

[@annefitz7346]

@@24Wynn thx. I’m trying to stay positive.

[@marylynne9104]

@@annefitz7346 - there are more people actively “fighting” this nazi movement than you know. Stay strong, use your vote every chance you get, not just general and midterms, but almost more importantly in local elections. Talk to the non-politically aware people you know and encourage them to use their vote too. Show them this video, introduce them to Rachel’s podcast. You can do your part without making a huge effort. There are many more non-fascist people in the US than the ultra-right-wing fascists. Don’t lose heart. ❤

[@MarkWelch]

"I started this for my own mental health." I resonate strongly with this. Thank you for this video.

[@1426Decatur]

OMG! Jon …. You and Rachel are the Dynamic Duo. Get it together. Get your own weekly podcast. It would sore to the top of the charts!

[@sharonmedeiros9819]

Wow! Rachel never fails to bowl me over with whatever she presents. I miss her nightly broadcasts, but with presentations like Ultra we are well compensated.

[@georgianamcglinchey573]

She is so important to our understanding. I wish college history professors made it mandatory to study her historical research and how to understand current events through the lens of history.

[@TheEverFreeKing]

No she is a deeply delusional Russia schizophrenic, you are being deceived.

[@Badwisdom]

Well played

[@v.leewalker8640]

Gosh the Qpublikkklans would go nuts! Burning her 📚 books! 😅😂🤣

[@hillarymurphy5256]

check out Heather cox Richardson on KZbin. American history professor. I've learned so much listening to her.

[@jocksharerock7318]

@Lugosi In other words: “I voted as a democrat for years as to hope for a better future until Jimmy Dore, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi and other demagogues convinced me a more ugly cynical world was the way” Good luck to ya!

[@frankG335]

Rachel has a gentleness in her voice that shows itself in her transition words. She genuinely cares about humanity and our future as human beings. I'm grateful for her insights and humanity.

[@tflg3257]

Rachel Maddow is a overpaid liar.

[@tflg3257]

How much are you getting paid to write these glowing reviews. Her own mama couldn't do this.

[@KJ-oon]

@@tflg3257 , I guess you will never understand the why and how. Which is so sad, specially because you mentioned that "her own mother couldn't do this", says it all. I am sorry that your own mother didn't love you and thought you are not worthy. Just know that it is not normal and you can love others and others can love you back. You can also change it for your children and show them love, if it is not too late. But I am really sad for you, and the way and how you have lived your life. If you keep watching her try to understand what she says you may start to understand. Try it since you keep watching and commenting on the channel ALL the time......lol

[@tflg3257]

@@KJ-oon That's a novel you wrote. 😒 You should stop deflecting. Fact is, Rachel Maddow is a paid liar. Lying to the public to cover up for the Biden administration is her primary purpose. Manipulating elderly viewers.

[@KJ-oon]

@@tflg3257 , you are just a coward to write a silly reply to me to see it, but delete it so others can't see. You are just pathetic......lol.....lmao

[@FoxMacLeod2501]

What Maddow said in this episode gave me the first little bit of hope I've had in a long time. We've been here before... Depressing, but also gives me hope that we can get past it again.

[@erincaitlin1655]

Let's hope so, especially with all the toxic crap circulating on social media that the tens of millions of Americans who are incapable of critical thinking gob every day ...

[@dorisreagh8865]

Is it just me, I am scared of what is happening!! In fact, I can't believe what I am seeing. God help us all. Please people vote the Rebups out of office!

[@blanktester]

So many conservatives view the left as the group who broadly ruined this country, so it's hard to shake people sympathetic to their side into understanding how dangerous they are. Not sure what to do about that but voting is just one part of it, for sure. Talking to people who disagree and pulling them left is important work.

[@blanktester]

@The Fires of Mount Doom My problem with the Dems is they aren't taking strong enough action, though the Biden administration has had a few successes of note. What are the Dems doing that is alarm-worthy?

[@Kick_Rocks]

Democrats are the fascists.

[@blanktester]

@@Kick_Rocks how so? Do you know what the historical signs of fascism are?

[@Kick_Rocks]

@@blanktester What Joe Biden is doing is fascism.

[@hazellove2144]

Rachel. She's amazing. Truly appreciate her knowledge & perspectives. Thank you for having her as a guest.

[@donaldstorm4959]

Yes thank you Rachel your knowledge and teaching us how close to the edge we came, you couldn't ask for a better guest! The stuff I'm learning is Simply Amazing!

[@cathleenwilliams9129]

P

[@JK_JK_JK]

Fascism? Failed draconian government mandates for a certain "pandemic"?

[@itsblitz4437]

Hardly she is a part of the corporate machine that promotes authoritarianism that she claims to be fighting against. She is a shill and bullshit-er at that.

[@pattydonohue5452]

Fantastic episode! I am obsessed with the new Ultra podcast series, as usual it is so SO well produced. And Rachel is just…the GOAT. Thanks so much All.

[@terrymize5888]

I appreciate her knowledge, her story-telling gifts, and her tremendous work ethic, but what I appreciate most is that she tells the truth. She doesn't fabricate or spin; she connects the dots and gives the facts. And she can do this because she works so hard to make sure of what she says.

[@jujubean7254]

I'm weirdly calmed by this podcast when it's pointed out that we've been here before in history and democracy survived....thanks to you both for your deep dive and keep up the good work..fingers crossed and please everyone VOTE!🤞❤👋

[@silverforest4682]

Vote blue!

[@chloekey8043]

What’s interesting to me is the 1940s plot is forgotten to history. Those people thought they were so important but no one knows them. They’re losers. Just like today’s fascists. They’ll be thrown on the dustheap of history as well. No glory for Steve Bannon !

[@pbezunartea]

@Juju bean: _...and democracy survived_ What you're missing is WHY it survived: because people like you didn't just voted but became actively intolerant of fascism: if you know anyone supporting the *current* fascist GOP: let them know, inform them.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@silverforest4682 Correction: Vote blue WHILE criticizing the s-it outta Dem's.

[@annebalderston2520]

This is no joke people! VOTE!!

[@hanauta3cho]

As always Rachel is an amazing speaker. Her delving into history to show us how many times we’ve faced these forces of fascism is pure gold. Jason Stanley’s book, How Fascism Work, is the playbook these strongmen always use. Excellent podcast

[@jd0604]

This idiot pushed Russiagate and said the vax would make you immune to covid. Open your eyes

[@jd0604]

Its the left who push fascism. They control the media...and don't you dare question them.

[@vanniegrace]

It is also wonderful that Jon lets her talk!! No frantic interrupting or completing her sentences. A genuine interview. Real questions and real listening.

[@collins48lc]

Democrats ARE the facist

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@vanniegrace ...A Part 2 to this video here would be the Fashism-Coverage of 'Some More News', IF NOT the whole Channel.

[@DJAbeClements]

Thank you John and Rachel. Love you both. (And I’ll greedily admit that I miss seeing Rachel daily on msnbc).

[@patcomerford5596]

The exchange between this man and woman was both educational and inspiring - thank you both.

[@SkyeMinch]

Such an incredible conversation I love this episode!

[@ebarron99]

9p 9t9ht 9th 7þ88u 7p0 00 during this

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

Before people could read, they sat around a camp fire and told stories. Like these two. Nobody knew if it was true or not, because there was nothing that could verify anything the storytellers said. Not true today. You can verify every single word they say. But nobody seems to care.

[@SCS-1964]

@@oddvardmyrnes9040 Was this group an extension of the plot Smedley Butler helped stop in the 30s?

[@SCS-1964]

@@oddvardmyrnes9040 We know the group on top of that plot >>> Robert Sterling Clark, Grayson M.P. Murphy, and Prescott Bush

[@jhoigaar]

Are you THE RUTH CRIST?

[@kristiw.1823]

YES! I'm here for every single Maddow interview. Have listened to Ultra episodes twice and still fascinated by just how much of the political history of the 30's and 40's that has yet to be told.

[@oddvardmyrnes9040]

I am sure you are.

[@liviadix1433]

I hope we are only going to hear about history, but not repeat it, and getting different results.

[@ShadowSword88ee]

Kristi, where did you did you listen to Ultra? I can not figure out what is the best platform to listen to Ultra.

[@kristiw.1823]

@@ShadowSword88ee spotify

[@ShadowSword88ee]

@@kristiw.1823 Thank you!

[@debrabell2604]

So glad you had Rachel on, she is a very intelligent woman who researches and reports on subjects that really matter. 🥰

[@christineprice916]

I really appreciate Rachel and her knowledge. I can’t seem to get enough of her reporting. Thank you Rachel and thank you Jon for having her on your show. Much appreciated.

[@josephtaylor6285]

❤Jon Favreau, this is my favorite part of Sunday mornings. I am so glad you’ve carved out this piece of the pie for yourself. All of your interviews have opened me to other thinkers. Many thanks for your good work. You really do make a difference in this country.

[@fluffycat3946]

love you, Rachel! miss your nightly show on msnbc. you have the ability to present complicated issues in a clear concise understandable way. you're better at it than anyone else I've seen! we need you,rachel. thanks for all your efforts.❤👏🙏

[@pcastromedina]

I have listened to the first three episodes of her podcast and they are insightful, informative, and worth listening more than once. It clearly shows her dedication and hard work.

[@thomasmclean1361]

Keep being a whacher she is cool 😎

[@kelliedelp4965]

Lordy Rachel, this is frightening and sad and dark and God I just started to breathe after those 4 years. Thank you for this important work.

[@thomasmclean1361]

She's to me is the best she is 😎

[@cindylara8269]

My brain muscles have been exercised. Thanks Jon for having Rachel on. Wonderful conversation to witness.

[@ritapatterson1047]

I appreciate Rachel talking about how acknowledging that this is real is part of getting better at fighting it

[@itsblitz4437]

Rachel is no fighter.

[@David-fy7oo]

What about the Million dollars Henry Ford sent to the Nazi party because they ran out of money or the workers he sent to Stalin and the materials also plant manager to get it up and running or his comment that Hitler and Stalin were the two greatest men of the 20 th century

[@BlackDogBlues4961]

This is probably my favorite episode of Offline so far. Well done Jon and team!

[@happytraveller8953]

Geez, this would make the folks who espouse CRT conspiracies have their heads explode...thank you Ms. Maddow for your integrity and truth...

[@collins48lc]

So why are so many parents of all ethnic groups showing up at school board meetings and protesting CRT I'm class rooms Listening to Maddow you lose 30 points off your IQ

[@MakingRecovery]

I’m here for the intellectual and mental health

[@thethirdwiferocks445]

Hey!I never comment but, my Dad was the only one I ever heard talking about Father Coughlin. I wanted to say thanks and I am proud of you guys for being as brave as my Dad😊

[@ginamitembe8935]

As always thanks for bringing us unbiased, intelligent reporting! Highly appreciated 🤗

[@loopylynda1974]

I am waiting anxiously for Mondays episode! I was hooked in minutes listening to Ultra. A history buff already this is truly riveting history!

[@annebruce5135]

I'm on holiday atm so am going to listen to all 3 on the beach tomorrow 😁

[@kcuzz4091]

Jon, thank you for having Rachel on again with her in-depth reporting/story telling. Just love me some Rachel Maddow on a Sunday morning while sipping my tea.

[@nightcited1600]

Thank you, Jon for having Rachel on. I understand why she is no longer on five nights a week, but I do miss that hour of insightful investigation. I've signed up to follow her podcast and will be doing so. Not sure how many more podcasts I can cram into my week and there are times that I say "enough." Great show.

[@frankG335]

I know. I listen to Mary Trump and Rachel Maddow.

[@tflg3257]

She's not on five nights a week because her ratings are destroying the network.

[@ginniecook7228]

I could listen to her every night and wish we had that back again but i understand she is only one person and has to have limitations for her own preservation but i find her shows or appearances fascinating often times …. I love the guys on Pod Save as well, thank you all for what you do….

[@jamberstone1]

so glad Rachel did this, my 93 yr old mom had told me about this (she remembered Father Coglin) & i had read some about the pro-fascist Americans pre-WWII but i never get around to looking it up to learn more - Thanks Rachel for doing the work for me! I

[@gloriastanleygarcia4681]

Thank you for having Rachel Maddow and her investigation of Americas past history. Very enlightening, informative and important to know.

[@macsam8778]

...Giving up is not an option for sure, thank you for doing what you're doing. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@TK-mf5in]

This is excellent! I’ve listened to her first 3 podcasts and they’re absolutely gripping. Myself and a couple of my friends and family members read quite a bit about American history and these are stories that we’d never heard before.

[@lizaronni]

I’m not only amazed by her gift as teacher/storyteller, but also appreciate how she chooses to share some glimpses into her own creative process. I miss knowing I could tune into her show every weeknight, but it’s good to see her free to climb down a few rabbit holes of her choosing for a while. I don’t know how many times during her 5-night-a-week gig she’d lead-off by telling us she had to trash her entire day’s work because of some breaking development. (After all, it is a news channel I suppose). There’s gotta be a treasure trove of un-aired material in her back pocket, especially all those little nuggets of overlooked history that she loves to bring out and re-contextualize for us. I look forward to listening to this podcast and to see where she takes us next :-)

[@lynnallen1242]

@Lugosi She seems to have hit a nerve there, huh?🤣

[@lynnallen1242]

@Lugosi Rachel Maddow is a Stanford University Graduate, as well as a Rhodes Scholar Graduate from Oxford University. Her intelligence level is most likely several notches above yourself and many others. As for Russia, they are continually, always trying to take down the USA, just like convincing the OPEC leaders to raise the price of oil along with MBS of Saudi Arabia. But as a Russian troll you probably knew this already 🤣

[@melissaholley9448]

You had me at druggist to dragons.

[@stevewalston7089]

@Lugosi

[@MichaelBrewick]

@Lugosi in denial huh. Putin is counting on it!

[@azusa9963]

Thank you Jon and Rachel. I am going to listen to Ultra ASAP!

[@flangekiwi]

Watching from Aotearoa NZ. Rachel's podcasts are exceptional! 🌻🌷🌻 Both my grandfathers served. That's how I already knew that the USA played both sides during WWII. Only coming on-board after Pearl Harbor. Very frustrating to have spent my entire life hearing USA citizens tell the descendants of Allied Forces that they personally "saved us" and we should bow down to American Exceptionalism. WTF? So VERY thankful for this Ultra podcast ❤ Until my last breath, when I join my Tipuna ( ancestors); I will be recommending this podcast.

[@MetroCasas787]

Miss her so much. Ultra needs more, pls do more. Can't get enough!

[@JHA6100]

Two of my all times favorites come together. I love the two of you. I was distressed when Rachel reduced her time on MSNBC and knew she was going to do new good things. So happy to learn this new story from her. She is so incredibly bright. But then Jon, you are doing great things. I love listening to your handsome face with brilliant ideas.

[@ruthcrist5983]

Awesome interview with Rachel!! Love her in-depth research in the obscure that needs to be brought forward and given the attention it needs💕

[@jhoigaar]

Are you The RUTH CRIST?

[@ruthcrist5983]

@@jhoigaar yes I am

[@LOSTONITALL]

She forgot to interview me. I would have told her things she refuses to hear. Oh, wait..... never mind.

[@jonnnyren6245]

@@LOSTONITALL shove off you Trumpian hag.

[@jodiebristow3210]

First time listener here👋🏽. Great first listen and have subscribed. I think I'll enjoy this pod! Rachel is such a great storyteller with facts most of us have never learned. Our schools had been dominated by the Daughters of the Southern Rebels for so long. We need to start teaching real TRUE FACTUAL American history. Our true history has been watered down for long enough.

[@chrispalmer9075]

I agree with you completely. I actually started listening to her during the pandemic and found out a lot of things I had never even thought about because it was never spoken about on the major three networks. She explains it in a way that I was able to understand and she always referenced documents to prove what she was saying. Her deep dives into what is true and what is conspiracy helped me immensely!

[@ellentaylor4351]

Rachel makes history although scary ever so interesting and her way of drawing you into her imagination. Love her way of speaking and her brilliance. 💕💗

[@violettownmicroenterprises1528]

strange, ambiguous use of the word "imagination". Good, solid history tends to not be steeped so much in "imagination", but rather in fact however,... whatever ! 🙂

[@JennySieck]

Maybe visionary is a better word.

[@martinze11]

Yes, the devil, and god, is in the details.

[@lilidundi]

Yes, I admire her for her sweet humbleness in spite of her huge, incredible incredible intelligence. Rachel, God bless!

[@JK_JK_JK]

Fascism? Failed draconian government mandates for a certain "pandemic"?

[@__SummerRose]

Great pod ~ thank you Jon and Rachel 🌸

[@jonnnyren6245]

I just finished listening to Ultra and Rachel you did absolutely well with it. The music is vibe-riddled but sort of Sherlockian in a way because of the history. Bagman and how she minced and broke down the corrupt world of Spiro Agnew was amazing enough, now this? Damn she's good.

[@THMILLER]

Rachel is the best! Very informative and her work speaks volumes in regards to the US history that us as Americans have not learned in school.

[@jimkramer6142]

Great podcast. Have admired Rachel for years. Just discovered these podcasts. Poignant.

[@realtalk7685]

“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power…. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing.” - Franklin D. Roosevelt

[@sarajacobs4670]

The first 3 episodes of Ultra are amazing! Rachel is a great story teller and educator.

[@Raina430]

Great interview, thank you so much for posting this. Rachael is brilliant, I’m so glad she’s speaking about this.

[@catalinacurio]

Great guest! Literally!

[@deborahlukovich2193]

It’s really good Rachel. Please just keep educating people. And giving us ideas about what we can do as individuals.

[@sassysuzzi4u328]

Thank you, Rachel M.! I could listen to you all day long!

[@brendalux2462]

Thank you for having Rachel in your show. I became aware of Ultra several weeks ago when she debuted the first 2 episodes. I bookmarked them in my YT feed & have not been able to find subsequent issues. I've searched for them but YT only shows me the first 2. Help me find the "rest of the story."

[@frankG335]

Have you tried spotify?

[@donnadecourcy7332]

It’s on Apple podcasts as well.

[@tloof2370]

Love Rachel, always worth your time to listen to her. Her investigations always prove to be correct and precedes other news outlets by weeks and months.

[@robinbeers6689]

Very true. She was delving into the fake electors scheme long before it hit the front pages.

[@dianas514]

I have enjoyed every Offline episode but this interview moves to the top of my favorite list! Incredible interview!

[@dsaav2772]

To quote an old saying, when Rachel talks, I listen … and goodness, she has amazing stories to shake us!

[@steveh6612]

Ultra is great so far. Bag man was freakin great too. America has a long history of trashy people.

[@esme011]

Lucky you! Rachel is such a fascinating speaker. Ultra is just riveting and brings it home that history repeats itself

[@candygram4435]

Ultra is so good! Can’t wait for episode 3

[@ruthantiaobong3502]

OMFG the second you said "I interviewed Rachel maddow".... I was immediately hyped! This is so f****** awesome!! Thank you for all you and the team do!!!

[@suemabeus4820]

So good, you two. Thank you. 💜

[@marablemorgan8292]

Thank you, from those of us who don't have the time to deep dive into history, for giving us the true history class we never received in school!!!

[@mbaleva5677]

I found this channel because of Rachel Maddow. I'd be a groupie if Rachel would allow it. 😁 You asked sensible questions and you leveraged Rachel's historical aptitude. I loved it and I am grateful for what you do, Jon.

[@andreasheld2362]

Thanks Rachel and Jon. I've learned a lot in today's episode.

[@susanbengston3208]

Aaahhh, the Best! Jon and Rachel first thing early in the morning, sets my Day off perfectly. Many Thanks, I needed this 👍👍

[@2012Cheetah]

Wow! I absolutely adore Rachel & watched/listened to her every nite on Serius xm. To watch both of you together is eye & ear candy!

[@frankG335]

Yes! BOTH!

[@MarcelHuguenin]

Thank you Jon and Rachel for this great conversation! Can't wait for the next episode of Rachel's podcast Ultra. It's amazing to learn about history in the USA that I had never heard about or learned at school in the Netherlands.

[@davidgoldberg5076]

Same here - I am an avid German listener. Education seems to be the key to prevent the raise of fascism...sadly, access to fact-based education seems to be more and more limited - this podcast helps a lot to fill gaps for those who are genuinely interested and not trolling this comment section! Thanks!

[@MarcelHuguenin]

@@davidgoldberg5076 Absolutely, fact-based education is key. I am very worried we are seeing this conspiracy sh*t more and more in the Netherlands too. Just unbelievable.

[@davidgoldberg5076]

@@MarcelHuguenin Unbelievable, indeed - with a lack of fact-based education comes a tendency, many to search for "simple "black/white" solutions" that are often offered by authoritarian, protofascist individuals, in Germany represented by the "Alternative für Deutschland, AfD", who admire people like Trump, Putin, Orban, etc.. The solutions that I see to avoid these parties winning the majority, besides education but linked to it, is voting, getting politically involved and discussing with those who are still willing to do so. They must never have the majority of electoral votes. If they do, I might leave the country, if still possible...scary thoughts, though.

[@therealrobertbirchall]

@@davidgoldberg5076 which is why education funding is never sufficient

[@doricetimko332]

Never learned about it in the US either…

[@rini6]

Wow. That is a terrifying history. We have always had these people. We need to figure out what drives these people and how to defang them.

[@1MarkKeller]

We haven't even defanged Confederate lovers in this country.

[@rini6]

@@1MarkKeller They are a huge subgroup of these people. Not all of them are willing to promote or participate in sedition. But a significant percentage likely are.

[@1MarkKeller]

@@rini6 yep

[@dianas514]

@@rini6 so very sad and very true! 😢

[@allyson87]

What drives them? Look at the environments these movements grow and listen for what’s behind the hateful rhetoric, the underlying beliefs and emotions. Don’t have to agree or sympathize/empathize, but if you can put your emotions aside to listen, you’ll see the answer is simple. An unstable/precarious economic environment and (real and imagined) threats to their status in society, which they project onto visible minorities who they can scapegoat in order to cope somewhat and avoid facing systemic problems… pretty sure the New Deal had a much much bigger impact in the fight against fasc!sm than the individualistic interventions they discussed… also probably not a coincidence that the threat reappeared and grew proportionally as we gutted those policies

[@Kdmud]

This was incredible!!! ❤

[@edithkatz348]

thanks Rachel...you finally got around to sharing the ' solutions' = exposure = courageous speech and local education...shine the light...PERSUADE ..this helps. We all can get into this at whatever level wherever we live.

[@davidmeinertdecrepidude]

Why is this not already a movie? Without having listened to the podcast yet, I'm feeling an "Eye of the Needle" vibe...

[@lhoward9593]

Except Eye of the Needle was fiction!

[@davidmeinertdecrepidude]

@Lugosi No, calling out fascism when and where she sees it should make everyone re-evaluate their own beliefs to see how vile and fascist these republicans are. She doesn't paint everyone with the same brush, she states well researched facts about specific people. By your reaction, you know deep down how wrong they (you) are.

[@giannaleng1897]

It always fascinates me that all these “free thinkers” always land back on same old anti-semitism, racism and sexism. It’s always the same old things disguised in new “anti-woke” packaging 😂

[@1MarkKeller]

Yep!

[@johndavidwolf4239]

@@1MarkKeller : Most of them couldn't give you a proper definition of the word "woke".

[@1MarkKeller]

@@johndavidwolf4239 How could they, when they go through life sleep walking.

[@allyson87]

people who see themselves as logical or "free thinkers" often try to distance themselves from emotions and don't question their assumptions/thought processes. paradoxically, this leads to logical fallacies, believing misinformation, and being controlled by their emotions

[@robinbeers6689]

@@johndavidwolf4239 They also can't define words like socialism, social democracy, communism, totalitarianism, fascism etc. They just toss all of them around as interchangeable insults.

[@patriciajbrumfield]

Thank you for this podcast. As a military dependent, veteran and college grad, I feel that history is repeating itself as evidence of this podcast and reports of journalists in our country and the planet. We need to protect our democracy. It is hard education and openness to learning is key here.

[@joycecoakley8700]

This appears to be the only person who researches her account of events of our history! Love to listen to her broadcast!

[@erincaitlin1655]

That's why she holds a Ph.d ...

[@zeemolicious]

Obama and Maddow in the same weekend!? 🤩

[@wd1598]

Pure excellence

[@TDhippie]

What a great podcast!!! Love Rachel! I'm thrilled so many are sharing their voices!!! ✌️

[@banditrider215]

Listening to your work Rachel is always an education and regardless of topic, always a pleasure. In short, you empower us in understanding the real world. Thank you 🙂

[@donaldstorm4959]

This is a very good show I wish I had time to watch more, just not feeling so good, in hospital with collapsed lung. I have been dealing with this since the end of May!