Episode 46 - Getting to Know the Omega Speedmaster

[@tienenaar2295]

And you didn't even mention the small fallus symbol at the 12' clock position :D Someone on facebook mentioned it in a watch group and every time I see a Speedmaster I just have to giggle at the moment I notice it.

[@bangurowned]

When is the next episode? I've watched every single episode and I'm dying for more!

[@jdillinger2307]

right? Started off as a weekly series, then 2 weeks, then a month.... now almost two months since the last episode and not a word about a break or one bit of news even during Baselworld. I’m guessing they’ve canceled the series or ran out of things to talk about :(

[@kaysenalbert8312]

InstaBlaster.

[@hectormerc350]

This episode is so convenient for me because I am really doing research for my next purchase and I know its going to be a speedy

[@intensepar8975]

We miss you guys, come back!!

[@paulienkhamvaiphei134]

Among the best and certainly the most fun discussion on the legendary omega speedmaster.Thanks.

[@MrJabbawaky]

Please do more of these deal dives into the different models from OMEGA, Rolex, etc. I love this!!!

[@TheWayofGrace89]

Planning to get a Hesalite Speedy Pro for my 30th bday, can’t wait to watch this episode! Always enjoy Cameron’s take as a true watchmaker with passion!

[@Merfin22]

Taylor W. It’s the best decision ever. You’ll love it.

[@Goat_Beans]

I got one as a graduation present! Still the most gorgeous watch I own!

[@smoko321]

I just got one this week. All I can think is that I should have bought one a long time ago.

[@oec_97]

Do it, you'll never need anything else!

[@MagicPenguin01]

Taylor W. I did the same for my 30th.

[@jjames6667]

when is episode 47 coming i am having a withdraaawl aaaaahhh

[@scottharter1161]

"Sweltering Death Jungle" - If there isn't a metal band with that name there should be. I read somewhere that the "Broad Arrow" hands were (or probably were?) problematic in the g loads and impact tests due to the overall weight of the hand and the weight being out at the end. The skinnier hands may have been to reduce that effect. Might be BS, I don't remember the reference.

[@mattwasilewicz9677]

If you want to have a Speedmaster that would go INSANE with second hand pricing, make a new Silver Snoopy with the 321 movement. Collector's would go batshit crazy over that....

[@dandesmarais2190]

Just checked the Crown & Caliber web site. The Silver Snoopy is GONE!!! That's a $24k sale that is directly attributable to this pod cast. Way to go, Matt & Cam!

[@Goat_Beans]

Love the video guys, been waiting for you guys to do a deep dive on the speedmaster for a while! One comment on at 32 minutes when you are talking about the automatic movement of the mark III speedmaster though. An automatic movement would work perfectly fine in space. The winding of the watch is more to do with the input force of the arm moving rather than gravity pulling the rotary weight down. You can hold an automatic watch perfectly flat while moving it in a horizontal circle to wind the watch. The momentum rotary mass is more than enough to overcome the mainspring resistance. Maybe he confusion was between weight and mass? Although I don't think a self-winding watchbox would work because it wouldn't provide enough input force like an arm waving around. Great video once again though guys! learnt a lot about speedies :)

[@NigeOfCydonia]

Goat Beans yup the Seiko Pogue was the first automatic chronograph in space and worked fine :)

[@Goat_Beans]

@@NigeOfCydonia I did not know that! Do you know if it was the golden dial one?

[@NigeOfCydonia]

Yup the golden one :)

[@thewatchmakersworkshop]

Main issue is the reliability of the information received from the instrument. With a manual wind watch, you know it is wound because you wound it fully on scheduled intervals. It will be unknown to the user as to whether an automatic has received enough energy input from the oscillating weight to have good enough amplitude to run accurately or not. So it might appear to work just fine, but it was not tested and certified to confirm that energy input was sufficient for accuracy.

[@NigeOfCydonia]

Cameron Weiss thanks for the reply Cameron. Loving the show. :)

[@kevinduncan9686]

The Rolex Daytona stopped working it had nothing to do with "syncing with other watches for space travel" and the crystal popped off the longines

[@Ghost-zn6ve]

35:53 it was Kevin Bacon

[@redbird963]

R.I.P. Watch and Listen Podcast

[@frank1380]

Sparkling stars on the caseback of the silver Snoopy. have mercy

[@josephcnry]

There have been several generations of X-33s, the one you guys had on hand was the second generation. The first generation had polished pushers, a different crown, and different bezel. Given how common "transitional" pieces in Omega's lines, I think it's likely that rather than denoting a watch made for or bought by NASA, a Gen 2 with polished pushers is really just an early Gen 2 off the line.

[@nolanreed7090]

I couldn't remember how negative exponents worked, so I Googled that 10^-6 is 0.000001. So basically no pressure, but not "negative pressure"

[@thewatchmakersworkshop]

Makes sense now that you mention it. Thanks for the info!

[@CDubs720]

@@thewatchmakersworkshop you can never have a negative absolute pressure. Zero pressure would be a complete vacuum, but even space is not a complete vacuum.

[@mikeanthony8292]

@Cameron Weiss the omega calibre 3313 (fp 1285 w/ co-axial) had some early issues and thus has pretty bad rep among speedys. You're positive take on it (45:43) is really interesting. Do you think the 3313 speedy is a better buy than a newer more expensive one with a ground up co-axial mvmt (9300, 9900)?

[@tonomartnez8589]

Something important that wasn't mentioned : speedmaster is a non hacking seconds watch ... I am still amazed people keep saying it's a great caliber and you endup not beign able to properly set the time !!

[@cedarcanoe]

Question: a Swiss watchbrand launched s chronograph in 1954 that look exactly as a Speeemaster. Its hands were the same, even the 2 dots at ’12’. I forgot the make and model. Can you help me?

[@Johnfsu]

I am a little late, but this was an excellent episode, gents!

[@BobBoyd1]

Fratello Watches recently reported that the Rolex 6238 (pre-Daytona or "George Lazenby") and Longines-Wittnauer 235T were also tested but didn't fully pass NASA testing.

[@manahatter]

is this channel still doing new content?

[@Snarfelle]

No new episod in a month :'(

[@kevinduncan9686]

105.012 Wow that's such a hard reference number to remember. 6 digits is so hard to remember. Automatic watches do work in space Cameron look it up. The reason they chose manual wind chronographs is because automatic chronographs didn't exist until 1969 four years after NASA flight qualified it. How do I know more than you about this?

[@kevinduncan9686]

Also the 105.012 used in Apollo 13 does not look like the FOIS you pictured. It looks closer to the current regular production model. I need to stop watching this episode. Yes I'm a nerd.

[@josephregan1007]

Damn. That snoopy watch is the shit!

[@kevinduncan9686]

Also the 105.012 doesn't look like the FOIS that you put up. Sorry I'm a Speedmaster nerd. Also we don't actually know if they used a 105.012 it could have been a 145.012. Very similar but different. I'd like to know what reference it actually was but I can't find it. So if anyone knows and has a source to back it up I'd love to know.

[@tienenaar2295]

When is the new episode online?

[@jimf5160]

I agree re the Silver Snoopy...but that price....

[@damonhill33]

ArchieLuxury: "Omega Speedmaster MAN ON THE MOON"

[@stevebo8055]

Thomas Archie is a fat pig of a so called man

[@vivekv27990]

man of the phucking moon phuckers!

[@apangurra2775]

Didn't Rolex fail because the crystal popped off during decompression? It was probably waterproof. Speedmaster had the advantage during decompression because air can get out everywhere.. it's not very sealed at all.

[@aria8928]

White dial... For snow... Interesting idea...

[@methik38]

The host should “watch and listen” more

[@roycedot]

Now we got the new 3861 Moonwatch.

[@kimschaefer7855]

Very interesting .

[@thewristwatchexperience8153]

So much want a brand new 321 with my brand new 68 Harley !

[@camarocarl7130]

The only watch to break on the Moon. The Omega Speedmaster. Apollo 15 Bulova Lunar Pilot to the rescue.

[@dachanist]

The Accutron broke in the LEM that's why Neil's Speedmaster stayed on board.

[@ripperx444]

I fast forwarded and landed right on the part where the guy said he doesn’t know what the seahorse is and that they used it from the beginning.... i wrote this comment and closed this video!

[@arthurmontiel2665]

Lol. One month later and I watched the whole video for you. So much misinformation told as fact. You really didn't miss much.

[@cordonbloue]

Think this Snoopy will be gone by now :D

[@jimf5160]

the Schumacher Speedmasters are still reasonable with their F1 Wheel boxes

[@Johnfsu]

@43:04 - haha, that's the truth.

[@MrZleesbec]

all this and barely any mention of the speedy reduced?????

[@UnNamedTrucker]

Did y’all quit?

[@jdillinger2307]

And they didn’t even bother to say goodbye.

[@thomaswood7495]

Must not have been profitable for them.

[@andrewlogan9556]

the current 1861 still has a plastic brake i'm pretty sure

[@thewatchmakersworkshop]

Current movements should all have the new metal brake, unless something has changed in the past few years. Protocol for Omega had been to replace all Delrin brakes with metal ones when they came in for service. Due to this, I bet vintage watches with original Delrin brakes might become collectible like a tropical dial.

[@andrewlogan9556]

@@thewatchmakersworkshop i have a new speedmaster pro i got from an ad in september, i'll open up the back and have a look and report back

[@thewatchmakersworkshop]

@@andrewlogan9556 Awesome! I would love to know what is inside.

[@andrewlogan9556]

@@thewatchmakersworkshop just unscrewed the back its definitley delrin if i could post a pic here i would

[@thewatchmakersworkshop]

@@andrewlogan9556 That's interesting. I wonder if they have been using Delrin on the closed caseback versions and are no longer replacing the Delrin during servicing. I will have to check with some current Swatch Group watchmakers.

[@samhill4454]

...and yet you passed over the MK40s?

[@dandesmarais2190]

And you need to do a whole episode on G Shocks

[@dandesmarais2190]

Interview Ellen Degeneres, Anthony the No BS Watchmaker, and Producer Michael

[@zissou6928]

44:10 They're ripping on an astronaut's tool lol wtf is this hubris

[@thewatchmakersworkshop]

I think the current version is awesome, but I don't love the look of the original version.

[@chrishammer5925]

You should have just bought that snoopy... And "half" the price of a Daytona at that time?? HA Shit

[@BIGWEBB88]

Is Crown & Caliber legit?

[@robm425]

BIGWEBB88 is that a serious question? They are legit from what I have seen

[@BIGWEBB88]

Yes. I never purchased a high end watch online only in store.

[@robm425]

@@BIGWEBB88 They are legit and well known for it. If you want a Stainless Steel rolex sports watch definitely the place to look as no authorized dealer. There are a few other places to look at, but Crown and Caliber is the top site for those luxury watches. Also depends what you are looking for.

[@algorithm007ify]

Omega beat Rolex woohooo

[@mmp11472]

Wrong

[@algorithm007ify]

Michael Pitts according to NASA... they did! Deal with it fanboy

[@mmp11472]

@@algorithm007ify Rolex failed to provide a watch to one of the test. Oversight by Rolex, yes. Beat, no. You can't wash your hands with a Speedy. You can swim with a Daytona. I own both, I know which beats which.

[@algorithm007ify]

@@mmp11472 failing to provide a watch = FAIL...like not sitting a test..maybe Rolex knew they would fail the test.. BOTH chronographs are machine made and mass produced..the rolex one is overpriced garbage..If you want a sports chrono, Zenith make better chronographs..especially with the defy 21 movement... Both rolex and omega have poor movement finishing...JLC, zenith, etc... are much better in that regard.