Episode Eighteen: Multi-Level Marketing | Violating Community Guidelines

Hey girlie! Wanna be your own boss? This week, Brittany and Sarah dive into multi-level marketing schemes: what they are, some popular ones that you've probably heard of, and their own experiences with them. Brittany and Sarah Get Tricked Into Joining MLMs Not Clickbait???
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[@genrushmore]

Sarah: years of inbreeding? Brittany: [laughing] we’re related. This part killed me.

[@billybonbonson]

31:10 I love going back to that joke

[@liquidlino5838]

Seriously so funny I'm crying!

[@hoppedupouttabedturnedmysw5456]

Ok I'm so confused bc I've seen people say they aren't, so are they cousins or not☹️

[@liquidlino5838]

@@hoppedupouttabedturnedmysw5456 They're obviously mother/daughter.

[@billybonbonson]

@@hoppedupouttabedturnedmysw5456 they’re actually siblings who were taken away at birth. So now they call each other cousins as a coping mechanism

[@jbart1203]

sarah: my sun bleached salami's are making an appearance on the tube me: SARAH ITS LITERALLY BEEN 24 SECONDS PLEASE

[@aphrodisiacmac1029]

When I say my 74yr old mom snapped her stare to me SO fast, like damn Sarah

[@jaz2208]

Put that saying on a shirt and I’d buy it

[@aphrodisiacmac1029]

@@jaz2208 periodt

[@spencerwilliams4413]

I lost my god damn mind

[@annastacey320]

Brittany having root beer and pickle chips as her snack while Sarah has Pedialyte and a cardboard tube. God, I love this podcast

[@hayliecassidy711]

They're so them coded

[@DiMagnolia]

As an ex-Mormon from Utah I died when Brittany compared MLMs to Mormonism, honey you have no idea... Utah is the world capital for MLMs because of Mormonism.

[@jifij89]

yeah so many crime cases happen there relating to MLMs!

[@carolinezina3543]

SO TRUE!!!! (ex-mo as well)

[@jasonhumber5378]

mormons are nice though, you know how many mormons iv talked to that are really nice.

[@Ilikebigbooties]

Every single Mormon SAHM is in an MLM and it’s ridiculous

[@Ilikebigbooties]

@@jasonhumber5378that’s bcs they want you to join their church. They actually think you’re evil and want to “save” you. Source: exmo in Utah with super Mormon fam

[@Culturality.]

The Hazing bit had me double over laughing with that “What awe we doing today Sawah?”

[@rjs2035]

Brittany’s toddler voice SENDS MEEEE💀

[@isthisyeni]

I want an episode about creepy childrens media like literally can’t understand how we as a society have gotten here

[@SpockNRoll]

yes!! like family vlogging channels? i'm so fascinated by ppl who do this. i thinks its incredibly wrong and should be illegal, but fascinated nonetheless.

[@cozycasasmr4510]

I second this

[@tuesdaycastro6095]

Theres those weird like "Minnie Mouse Getting An Abortion" ON KZbin KIDS!??

[@Auntpittypathamilton]

So many effing cringey weird vids made BY ADULTS on yt kids

[@larala21mil]

Dan Olson (Folding Ideas) has a great video about creepy yt kids: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnzTY5qfoK6eepo

[@maria-jz9mb]

Actually peeing yourself while laughing is pretty common for women and has to do with pelvic floor muscle dysfunction its called "stress urinary incontinence", if it happens enough that it decreases. your quality of life you should probably see a urologist they might give u exercises or medication to strengthen those muscles . anyways that is my psa

[@basementdwellercosplay]

The sad part is that mlms target single moms and military wives, people who can't get a normal job or don't want to for the sake of caring for their family! They could really benefit from a stay at home job but mlms attack these poor desperate people

[@alyearcandian]

“i feel like you’re immune to shingles if you’ve had chicken pox” .. you can only have shingles if you’ve had chicken pox 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣

[@kyliesorenson2114]

this is actually so hilarious she said that 🤣😭

[@RPattzFanns]

So get vaxxed when ur 50 girlies!

[@laureliseminger6499]

I entered the comment section specifically to inform them about this topic

[@gooreum2023]

lmao exactly! its cause the virus stays in your system and "reactivates" when your inmune system is low.. happened to me cause of stress. absolutely sucked

[@saarebas.]

I would love to see an episode discussing celebrities/companies trying to engage with the internet for like, voting. Remember when McDonald's let people create burgers in a contest for a new menu item and some of the results were "Toddler Body Bag" (no patty, three slices of cheese, no lettuce) and "A Vision Of Christ" (just bread.) Or the infamous Mountain Dew Poll where the top two flavours voted to be introduced were "Gushing Granny" and "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong" Not to mention the contest for Taylor Swift to perform at a school, and the internet ended up voting for a school for the deaf.

[@Zeffer32]

the 'win a date with Taylor Swift' debacle too!

[@Gonzalez.k24]

The Taylor Swift contest has me in tears rn. That’s so out of pocket😭😂😂

[@princesstuesday5287]

Boaty Mcboatface was my favorite of those voting things

[@deegoldman17]

This

[@spencerwilliams4413]

PLEASE THIS WOULD BE SO GOOD

[@nik-wp4pc]

my mother a couple years ago was so deeply invested in mary kay, she bought thousands of dollars of makeup at a time just to impress her higher up associates. she barely ever sold product but kept buying and buying like she was. i'll be honest some of their products kinda slay but she was so obsessed with it that we had to sell our car and spend less money because she needed it to buy product. now they're all in boxes stacked around my house probably never to see the light of day again, and i've come to realize that my mom is deeply mentally ill and they preyed on her because she was so vulnerable to things like freedom and power. a lot of my childhood was spent going to school trying to sell makeup for my mom and going to initiation parties, and occasionally travelling to conferences in ontario, texas, and even london once. now she's given up on it but my family can't EVER speak about those days or bring up how fucked up it was for fear of her going mental. so glad its going out of style these days

[@EFR-GX73]

If your mom is open to it and would allow the donation of some of it, it can be really helpful to women's shelters to have makeup donated - for job interviews and for morale also

[@Leni_lovely]

Ugh that’s awful. My mom used to sell Avon back in the day but I’m not sure if that’s mlm

[@beccaquesnel2806]

@@Leni_lovely it is haha

[@preski000]

@@EFR-GX73 this is a great idea!

[@HoneyxLime]

@@Leni_lovelyabsolutely

[@vgabbieb]

Me: eating my smoothie bowl at 8 am, excited to hear about MLM schemes Brittany: your shit sounds like you’re pouring a smoothie into a trash can 🙂

[@frederiekh9614]

The introduction of this episode was so incredible and shit filled for the fact it’s supposed to be about multi level marketing, I love it

[@sydney9011]

Ok but that bit about financial/child abuse: The 2008 recession effected me SO HARD as a kid, I was straight up so worried that we would end up on the streets and my parents stressed it so hard that we needed to not buy fun things often and only things we need. I still have a hard time buying things for my own enjoyment now. Fast forward to 2020, during the pandemic my little sister who is almost a whole decade younger than me kept asking my parents for random frivolous purchases all the time and they just let her have whatever and my blood was boiling bc I was like "oh my god where is HER 'we r going to be on the streets' talk?" I never said anything because I knew it wasn't my place and that she shouldn't be traumatized the same way but oh gosh it's so tough seeing someone have it so easy when you got the short end.

[@sofiipote7]

well, you can always talk about it with your parents, right? not saying that they should do that to your sister, but just asking maybe why they did it to you, since it still bothers you

[@hrcaldwell98]

I’m so sorry. You definitely shouldn’t have had to hear any of that as a child. I’m there with you too I hate buying myself things I don’t necessarily NEED, but we deserve the monetary success that we work hard for!!! I wish it was easier to let that ideology go, and to spoil yourself the way you deserve. I hope you don’t feel too bad about being upset with your parents now, They definitely were and are still in the wrong, I agree with the above comment, I say bring it up to them 👌

[@cozycasasmr4510]

Omg me and my friend were having this conversation this morning, about how we feel guilty for spending money on non essentials

[@hannahtucker4694]

That sucks :( are your parents financially more stable now? Is that why they can give your sibling so much more?

[@Xosidhe]

I didn’t realize till you said it, but I graduated college in 2008 and it was a struggle for like a decade to get a good job! I just ordered a computer and full setup and had to justify it to myself because I never ever buy anything nice. I spent my whole adult life even when I was making enough in the habit of never getting myself anything I want because of that mindeset I started out with.

[@riannonadams4154]

Takeaway: Sarah needs to go to the doctor and Brittany needs to do some kegels.

[@sarahhudson7108]

Omg the wealthy parents that gaslit their kids into thinking they were poor… a very relatable motif

[@norahmaclean4523]

if i had a nickel for every time a story involving shit and nova scotia was mentioned on this podcast i would have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

[@arlanacamille]

who remembers when companies used to come to our schools and say “if you sell this much product you’ll get this prize, you can even win a trip” was that mlm? lmaooo

[@littlegreensunflower3547]

The fucking cookie dough. Gods. That was weird in retrospect

[@Call-me-Ez]

We did one in high school band, one of the “awards” was a 5 pound bag of gummy bears..this was the height of “quirky scene kids” in my school.. I carried them around with me, I got through about half of the bag in a month. When my mom found out I was the only one eating them she was horrified and threw it out. This was in 2012, still can’t eat gummy bears 😂

[@arlanacamille]

@@Call-me-Ez omg 😭

[@morgan244]

the band at my high school used to sell mattresses

[@Call-me-Ez]

@@morgan244 That’s what my school does now, and no weird prizes thank god lol. They just get preloaded gift cards

[@saggguy7]

“You’re doing all the work and someone else is taking all the profit just because they recruited you???” Note that this is a perfect descriptor of both mlms AND just general employment

[@Marqqqo]

Literally capitalism

[@ashtonbolain8004]

I was literally thinking abt how this is LITERALLY just jobs the first thing I thought of was Amazon

[@annadavied7253]

That's a bit of a fallacy. Yes, employers (especially under capitalism) profit significantly off of the backs of the laborers and lower/middle class. HOWEVER, the difference is that MLMs don't provide a minimum wage, don't have benefits, and don't provide for any kind of bereavement or any other paid time off. When MLM consultants say "You can work anywhere!" what they really mean is that you can never stop working. Because you don't get paid unless you're selling. And you don't get paid WELL unless you're recruiting. So. If you compare them superficially, then that comparison makes sense. But a closer look shows that the two are vastly different. Not to defend capitalism, but MLMs are far worse; they are pyramid schemes that have found the flimsiest of loopholes to appear legal. Meanwhile, the founders are lining their pockets as quickly as possible before the MLM folds and they start a new one.

[@mephistopheles2754]

@@annadavied7253 exactly this, especially when it’s a small business.

[@shannon6219]

we need "gastroenterologist reacts to VCG" and its just them reacting to clips of yall talking about shitting and farting

[@mathewfenwick5482]

when i was a child, i spilled cereal on the carpet and my dad refused to clean it up, so my mom ordered a vacuum sales guy to come to our door and show off the vacuum to my dad by cleaning the cereal. my mom forced my dad to buy the vacuum and he still fucking uses it literally 20 years later and also theyre divorced

[@shinkurasha8061]

I think I broke my neck from the amount of whiplash I got from this

[@mrswagaswaga]

Mathew are u ok?

[@rileymae7249]

amazing

[@spookycowb0y_]

was it a good vacuum tho

[@iridescentaurora268]

Was it just the dry cereal or a bowl of cereal *and milk?* It’s gonna take more that a vacuum to clean up milk, is what I’m getting at, you gotta shampoo that spot.

[@stardust3176]

There is actually a sex toy mlm I think lmao. In all seriousness, it’s so fucked how most MLMs target people that need money. And they frame it as girlbossing. So shitty

[@caitlyncastellion4361]

pure romance is the name

[@hizababy]

Athena is a big one

[@jifij89]

ann summers in the u.k.! so many people don’t realise it’s an mlm cause of the storefronts

[@retnoanggraeni2330]

Putting a timestamp for myself to laugh again and again when I need to 0:58 my fat finger got stuck! 3:05 wet one piece noise 4:56 hazing 12:42 little old me

[@nikolasslead6582]

I've been to a TJMaxx while slightly buzzed before, and let me tell you, it definitely heightens that liminal space, disorienting, disorganized energy of it. Highly recommend being somewhat intoxicated in a TJMaxx. Love this podacast so much

[@Xosidhe]

Holding one shoe while searching the shelves for the missing one.

[@Eliza-bs8fl]

I love seeing the various belongings they both bring to the set. The dill pickle chips, the pedialyte. It tells a story.

[@shaylincrosby3262]

I was a girl-scout until I was 18, and I have worked for Girl Scouts too. you don’t have to sell cookies to be in a troop, you don’t have to sell cookies at all, Sarah was right we don’t have to purchase the cookies cause people pay for them before we order them, once you turn in the order sheet and funds you distribute them to people who purchased from you. The funds from cookie sales are used so the troop, or an independent scout can go on experiences, wether that be camping, traveling, horse back riding etc. the funds are also used so the troop can host service projects, for example, we purchased a bunch of food and prepared lunches at the Ronald McDonald house for the families that stay there. Cookies really just fund what the scouts wanna do, and to get patches and awards you have to go out an do stuff.

[@sol.mane35]

Hi from the Philippines here. This podcast gives me a small window of joy since day 1, especially now, amidst the deteriorating political environment of my country when a son of a dictator could possibly rule our country. Fight for democracy y'all. And I pray that many of us will be alive to see our nation stand on its feet again.

[@bdyzzi]

I pray the same for you all❤️ the world is a difficult place. I’m glad you are finding ways to find joy

[@sol.mane35]

@@bdyzzi Thank you. It's still a small comfort that the world is watching us and are with us through this struggle

[@hannahtucker4694]

I heard about this a few days ago. God be with you, friend.

[@DancingKate331]

Sarah every week in a different variety of words: “MY BLOOD IS CAFFEINE MY ADDY JUST HIT MY HEART IS RACING I’m fine” I think they just need to admit they’re a squirrel in a human body. Said with love and empathy.

[@caitwon]

My ex-boyfriend's father actually bought one of those vacuums from door-to-door salesmen and it was like $2k for a vacuum that looked like it was from 1983.

[@katie2123]

WHAT SPELL DID THE KIRBY VACUUM SALESMAN HAVE ON SUBURBAN DADS! i too have a father that bought one lol

[@hannahswanson544]

The Kirby Vacuum people are sent from hell 💀

[@caitwon]

@@katie2123 it was some strong magic because they definitely did NOT have $2k to spend on a vacuum. His wife was PISSED when she found out lmao

[@makattak1360]

bruh my boyfriends dad bought one to and it looks like a dinosaur

[@poshdoesmakeup1926]

👀 that was my “first job” lmao I never went back

[@dariahill]

Id give anything to hear Sarah's rant about financial abuse that got cut out omg.

[@ninamartyn9322]

I saw this and I was like “oh MLMs I can listen to this one around my mom” and then immediately “My peperoni nips are out and ready”… guess not 😔

[@nickid7117]

😂😂😂

[@hotsexyangel]

I love this podcast, it’s like I’m sitting in my cooler older siblings room and watching them chat with their cool best friend while I just sit there watching lmao.

[@LittleBirdASMR]

Sarah: Diet Coke, quart of pedialite & redbull. Brittany: root beer & pickle chips. If this doesn’t explain them entirely idk what will🤘🤘🫶🙌🏼

[@BeautyConfidence101]

i was like what the hell this bitch drinking pedilaite? health is wealth queen

[@RealBradMiller]

Pedialyte AdvancedCare Plus, blueberry flavor saved my freakin' life! Maybe it was the four days of no water and constant vomiting, but when I got hold of that stuff, it was like dew of the gods.

[@3amfartchallenge633]

don’t forget the toilet paper roll on sarah's side

[@aphrodisiacmac1029]

It takes a real serious level of self-trust to be putting 10000 open drinks around your laptop, fully knowing you’re a hand talker. My anxiety this whole video waiting for them to spill on the keyboard lol

[@pixie9499]

ok i’m so glad i wasn’t the only one who clocked the casual pedialyte. as i saw it, i was sitting next to my own pedialyte💀

[@raeraebay123]

Verve was an MLM that was shut down because it was found to be a pyramid scheme! It was my first mlm pitch in HIGH SCHOOL!!

[@tayloryoung9082]

The Vemma/Verve people unsuccessfully tried to get me in college, but it pulled in two of my friends cuz one of them was dating the guy who had managed to get the “company Mercedes”. They lost thousands of dollars, and I was just sitting around using their surplus of product as cocktail mixers.

[@chickenstripper5746]

@@tayloryoung9082 was it at least a good drink?

[@Rosebud0801]

Cutco/vector was allll over my friends and I the second we graduated high school. I’m talking letters, DM’s on ig, you name it

[@tayloryoung9082]

@@chickenstripper5746 No

[@estelshtein]

I have never laughed harder in my life than when sara quoted Brittany saying “You ever shit and it sounds like someone pouring out a measuring cup”

[@ella-sx5lp]

i was a girl scout all through elementary school and the money raised from cookie sales was used to pay for camps, trips, activities, supplies, etc however depending on the number of boxes sold, you could earn points to spend at the Girl Scout™ store (1 box = 1 point or something) they really hyped it up and made it seem like you could get so much stuff (backpacks, stuffed animals, etc) when i was 10 i sold a couple hundred boxes to neighbors and my parents coworkers and the only things i could afford with my scout points were chapstick and a keychain 💃

[@DuransWorld]

The longevity of this podcast is crazy I can totally imagine ppl in future using this as evidence to the past lol

[@mellisahadzikic5553]

my school literally took us to Amway for a “career fair” which was an event where they fed us shitty food and took us on a tour of their facility and then tried to recruit us. i remember people on stage about how their lives were great and how much money they were earning and it was just so boring and pointless. like they brought high schoolers there, minors and they tried to recruit us. thanks Mrs. Small, my junior year personal finance teacher

[@ResidentialYenta]

As soon as Sarah admitted to paying an ex's rent, the vid cut to the Better Help ad that starts with, "It takes a lot of courage to admit that you need help."

[@makepayton]

mlm reminds me of the cookie dough sale thing in school where you would get prizes based on how much you sold

[@angelah5995]

I feel like my cool older cousins came to sit with me at the kids table and I’m hanging on to every word while eating Kraft mac n cheese

[@madisandellinger3989]

Most accurate I feel so baby

[@wildbouquet7941]

I was in an mlm during 2018 and they touted they were one of the “good” ones. And tbh I didn’t lose any money and I did make a bit, BUT I made like $25-$50 a month after putting in hours of work creating content, talking to people etc. The company would boast that you don’t need to recruit people in order to make money selling, but what they didn’t say is that you would have to get dozens and dozens of customers to make it worth your while. AND if you weren’t able to get that many customers (most people didn’t) they would guilt you by saying that you weren’t working hard enough, that you needed to go over the company provided education on how to get sales (which was mostly feel good fluff saying to BELIEEEEEVE in yourself) and to put in more hours. The higher ups in the company were people that already had an established social media following, or they got into the company early, give or take a few that got lucky. I didn’t realize until much later that I actually have some trauma around my time in the mlm. When I had signed up, I very recently had a baby and was dealing with living across the country from my family while suffering through postpartum depression.. also my husband and I were broke after all the time he had to take off work. I was sold a lie that I would find a SISTERHOOD, that I could make a HUGE financial difference in my life, and when I didn’t find those things I was made to feel like such a failure. MLMs are disgusting, predatorial companies that like to say they “empower” women, but really women are the target that they hurt the most.

[@krissydickey8333]

This has really helped my mental health. I’ve been wfh recently and isolated and this makes me feel like the good old days of sitting around with my friends, busting each other’s balls, talking about any and every topics, just being witty and having a joy. Thanks Broski and Schauer

[@BB-ny7sl]

Just wanna say - this is one of the only podcasts I rewatch regularly. Feels like I'm with friends and I love it!

[@marionhills8031]

for the piss girls; try to relax your stomach often. often when you are raised to suck in your stomach your muscles get so strong when you laugh you just flex the piss out. let ur belly hang out it’ll help

[@Amazinglexi3]

Thanks for the tip!

[@katiegallagher7312]

I relate so much to parents claiming they are poor and mom on the verge of being on tlc’s extreme couponing when we are not struggling whatsoever

[@shurlur]

this grown woman dm’ed me when i was like 13 and tried to get me to sell skinny protein coffee, and i almost fell for it?????? the only thing that stopped me from trying to do it was that i thought i had too much homework to have a “job”…… but i’m pretty sure that would have been very illegal 😍 also i live in florida LMAO

[@ohno2277]

One of my exfriends was in mlm and told her 'boss' about me and she literally demanded to videocall me and ask me "hey why are you as a friend not helping your bestfriend by joining us?!?" Obviously I didnt actually let her call me but she kept asking about me?!?! Wtf and the other think they do is they try to convince you its not actually a pyramid scheme

[@ariannahale8490]

I love this podcast so much. It’s the only time I get excited for Mondays.

[@ezi1691]

I was just about to say the same 🥲

[@LaloMacKenzie]

Omg that’s probably why they chose Monday. Queens.

[@Msjessicaluna]

Same dude same 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@thatbtchyoureadyknow2299]

they made monday’s so much better

[@elisebakkenlauritsen2776]

This and that cat that licks Graham crackers

[@sallyduncan4942]

when i get the "hey girlie" messages now i just say yeah thanks i have been my own boss before its called stripping

[@eminystoruk]

The thing that always makes me laugh is seeing mlm girlys post “support your friends small businesses!” Girl you’re not a small business lmao Most people I’ve known in mlms have ended up losing more money than they’ve made

[@haleygriswold2204]

the thing with girl scouts is that you get them in advance and you have to sell them or buy them yourself. You kinda recruit people because you ask your friends to also be in GS. You are promised these huge rewards if you sell enough cookies.

[@maragaitan-strane3215]

it’s more like manipulation for fundraising via child labor lolol

[@haleygriswold2204]

@@maragaitan-strane3215 also that lmao

[@sofiipote7]

so.. it kinda is an mlm? maybe?

[@haleygriswold2204]

@@sofiipote7 close enough

[@garfieldbrooks]

@@sofiipote7 mlm adjacent

[@pttbwicfoshm]

I think my parents bought mlm textbooks except they weren't really textbooks, they were like children's books with a bunch of (very inaccurate) science facts and strange illustrations. It was like a pack of 20 I think.

[@Falcopunch97]

I’m curious to know if anyone else’s towns are having herbal life type MLM store fronts pop up recently in the past year or so? My town has had a couple of these “nutrition” “health” smoothie/protein drink type of stores open up and they’re literally putting essential oils in their shakes for buyers to ingest and it’s so terrible idk how they’re businesses

[@kourtneystoddard2819]

Dude yesssssss with those god damn smoothies and teas??? They’re all just called like “**insert city name** nutrition”

[@Amazinglexi3]

Yeah then they get the workers to try and sell the herbal life product to their friends and it’s just bad

[@sydneysenpai]

Brittany’s story about being recruited into an MLM was EXACTLY THE SAME as mine when i got recruited by Cutco!!!! i made it to the end of the training session where they made us write down the names and numbers of everyone in our contact list to try and sell them knife sets, got a free lunch, and called my parents because i thought the entire thing was really weird

[@katherinesheremeta9238]

tbh cutco knives are pretty good 💀 my parents bought some a good ten years ago and we still have them and they still work perfectly

[@darkjade]

my uncle bought a Kirby vacuum about 8 years ago and still has debt from it, the man showed up at his home and was let in my uncle at the time at some substance abuse problems and got very drunk/high he talked to the salesman for a couple hours and when he awoke the next morning he saw the vacuum sitting in the living room and asked his roommates which idiot bought it, then found a receipt in his pocket for this $3k vacuum (which he later traded for drugs). He decided to not pay for the vacuum's payments and hoped that after a few years they'd forget about it, they did not instead they sold his debt, and now he has shit credit and often warns me to never buy a Kirby vacuum.

[@hannahswanson544]

Kirby is absolute scum that is so awful.

[@AD-ne1uk]

that's so sad :(

[@arbisofficial]

"I feel like people who had chicken pox are immune to shingles" yeah that's what my mom thought in the 90s when she tried (and succeeded) to get me exposed to chicken pox. turns out it's exposure to chicken pox that *causes* shingles so now i have that to worry about 🙃

[@aspannas]

Yeah when you get chicken pox, the virus stays in your body for the rest of your life and can flare up and that's when you get shingles. I had shingles a few years ago and it's was really painful and itchy but fortunately it was a very small amount on my side (on the rib cage). Got prescribed a cream with steroids and it went away after like 1-2 months. It's much better to have chicken pox as a child though, I hear it's much worse as an adult, so it's best for kids to get it at a young age. But I can without a doubt say that getting shingles is not even near as bad as having chicken pox all over your body, so I don't think you should be worried, it's also quite rare. But that of course depends on the amount of shingles you have, I can imagine having a much bigger area than I had would be VERY painful.

[@hannahckirk]

You can get the shingles shot if you’ve had chicken pox! I think you can only get shingles if you’ve had chicken pox because my mom got shingles a few years ago & she had chicken pox as a kid

[@hannahtucker4694]

I think you get it if you're vaccinated from chicken pox too. No way to get around it except for the shingles vax

[@bennyworm4384]

I actually cry laughed at the mlm (multi level marketing) vs mlm (men loving men) bit because I’m mlm (men loving men). It’s such a relevant problem in the gay man community where we can’t tell if ur talking about being gay or bad business models lmao

[@livvylag]

the ‘mlm unfriendly’ term throws me off every time i read it. it has never once been about gay men but i still do a double take every single time

[@dorianbarron268]

If it’s true that laughing helps you live longer, these 2 are going to be here forever….and that’s just what we need ❤️

[@rickywhite2000]

Love that they’re 30 minutes into the episode still introducing themselves

[@mikaylarose6416]

im having a realization that it is 3am and i am 18 years old currently sitting in my bedroom organizing my harry potter knick knacks bc i got new legos listening to you guys and im pretty ok with my life rn😂

[@breeb2638]

I've never felt more ADHD representation than hearing Sarah's unedited thought processes

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

And it's so comforting xD

[@Kitty8598]

brittany!! when i was 19 i almost got roped into a pyramid/mlm scheme too😭 i had just dropped out of college and really needed a job, and my mom had gotten in contact with a friend that was involved (and pretty high up the ladder too??lol) but yeah he 'recruited' me and showed me kinda his day to day and what that would entail if i decided to get involved. i remember him having all these nice, flashy things and i was super impressed lmao i was tryna get like him fr. i did the whole song and dance too: going to introductory meetings where they try to recruit in bigger groups, i took all the classes for the product (it was life insurance stuff but i wont say the company), this guy even took me to headquarters to meet all the higher ups. it wasn't until after all of that, that i realized it seemed a LOT like a pyramid situation and i backed out. and i had spent so much money of taking the 'classes' too 😅

[@Kitty8598]

OMG ALSO!!! my parents totally got roped into selling herbalife too, like when i was really little. they were all in too, i remember us having boxes of all sorts of their products all over the house. i guess we're just a bunch of suckers lol???

[@zozopondue1878]

I love that you guys dove into this topic a bit! It’s important to talk about because the more people are aware the less they are susceptible to the scam. I do think there was a little confusion about MLMs vs pyramid schemes. Most MLMs are basically pyramid schemes, and do rely heavily on recruiting to make money. There isn’t really any “legit” MLMs that don’t utilize pyramid scheme like practices. If anyone is interested in more information about MLMs, there is a community on KZbin who do great work investigating and breaking down MLMs and their shady practices. I suggest CC Suarez, Savannah Marie, and Erin Bies just to name a few!

[@debu556]

4:56 AWW 21:15 Brittany’s sudden outburst had me cackling, just the enactment of manic screaming 23:46 the immediate interruption of Sarah’s thoughts because Brittany farted again HAHAHA 25:02 Sarah was not ready to move on yet

[@hannahvrkljan549]

I almost fell for the same MLM that Brittany did, where they told us we would sell textbooks to families during the summer, and that our pay would be through commissions. They also promised that whatever degree you were going into, they would network you into one of their top 5 industries, like how when you have english majors and biology majors in the same room? So glad my parents shut that down when I tried to tell them. The sad part was that I cried for days to my friends bc at the time I needed a job as a freshman in college, so when a job opportunity pops up with major wishes, it destroys you when you get denied.

[@vampbiite]

less than five minutes in and brittany and sarah already have me laughing like a madman in a public place. absolute queens of comedy

[@skyecaptr6189]

love your pfp!

[@vampbiite]

@@skyecaptr6189 thank u!!

[@hayleys756]

Pure Romance is the first company y'all were talking about. Definitely an MLM. Love you two ❤️

[@teeteechavez661]

I honestly just needed to say: I’ve been having so much anxiety these recent days, and this podcast has been the one thing I could look forward to that actually has been able to take my mind off the stress. I’m so glad I started listening to this after catching up with the Broski Report podcast. It’s become routine to listen to you guys on Spotify while I’m working so I actually have something to laugh about instead of overthinking everything I see wrong in my life that I havent yet been able to fix or just things I can’t even control. anyways omg I just love that this podcast has managed to help me a lot.

[@jbsbloodsandbugs4072]

My aunt brought a bucket out to the pool shed for me and my cousin to pee in so we weren't running in and out of the house during the summer or peeing in the pool. I decided to shit in it one day and didnt think anything of it until I heard her try to yell for me and my cousin while laughing. I cant remember if she made me fish it out and throw it away or if she just flung it into the alley. I guess we were to shit in the house and pee in the bucket. I didnt get the memo. I also laughed so hard that I pee'd while typing this so 1 more for the pissers!

[@Juulzz]

I’m at the gym crying laughing at the gym. Got so many death looks but fuck it. Y’all made my Monday

[@EFR-GX73]

SAME! Haha

[@BeeBee-os5dy]

It sucks when you see someone you went to school with go into an mlm. She does have another job at a nursing home I think, but she also sells paparazzi jewelry and now mary k stuff. Her Instagram has turned into an ad for the stuff and "girl boss" stuff. It sucks cause I can tell she is kinda desperate for money and seems to have lost her soul a little bit you know? Like, the things you do for money and the weird character you become when you are in sales, that sucks. I can tell she wouldn't be doing this stuff if she had more money. I hope that she didnt get her hopes up too much about this stuff and gets out soon cause I can tell that she is working hard at this. She goes live like a few times a month and tries to sell stuff. I have no idea how much she sells but know that this type is work just leads to disappointment

[@lisayoni5990]

I'm fucking crying laughing when the dialog drifts off to random themes

[@annabellewilliams1770]

I can heavily relate to the financial abuse lol idk why parents think telling their kids about how broke they are is a good idea but omg it has to stop that sh!t is the source of so many mental issues

[@emmablackburn7637]

Not me being currently equally obsessed with this podcast as well as anti MLM content and then y’all drop this ??

[@SunKissedBaddie]

CAME HERE TO SAY THE SAME THING!!

[@Rachaelbot]

When people get wrapped up in MLMs and message me like "I started my own business!" Did you Francene? Did you though?

[@michellefleishman1187]

I’d like to discuss Sarah’s very relatable multitude of beverages. One for energy, one for hydration, and one for fun ❤️

[@avalewis8156]

Praise you for releasing episodes on Monday’s, it’s my mental breakdown day and every week y’all show up with CONTENT to get me through it. 🤟🏼🤟🏼

[@xoxobrialee]

CLICKED SO FAST! I’m currently a resident of the largest MLM hub- UTAH. Yes, it’s as bad as you can imagine living here. Especially as a WOC.

[@peps1943]

Your parents didn't do you any favors with the name 😝

[@emullionare5570]

Oh god Mormons doing MLMs

[@LemonSte]

will keep you in my thoughts LMAO

[@xoxobrialee]

@@peps1943 I was adopted at 14 and my whyte Mormon parents did this to me. Yes, I’m very aware pal.

[@peps1943]

@@xoxobrialee LPT: Now that you're an adult you can change your name to *literally* whatever TF you want lol. You tell people what to call you 🤯 AND you make your own social media handles.

[@sage5530]

i was literally just checking to see if there was an upload and was so sad there wasnt, but nvm lol!

[@ataleofcoffee842]

One of favorite Anecdotes to do with MLM's- When I moved I had to get a new library card, and decided to browse the selection and vibe check the place. There was a whiteboard with markers and a question of the month "What are you proudest of?" And there's the usual stuff about meeting goals, building a happy family, and one saying they got help for their mental health. Directly under the mental health one is some woman shilling out her MLM, declaring 'starting my own business with It Works'. She also listed her name and number.

[@izzymcdermott5669]

I just realized that my mom was looped into a multi-level marketing scheme...she sold Mary Kay for years...and she bought Lularoe forever. Omg.

[@bobobee9206]

Brittany I've had the same problem with pee my whole life and it got exponentially better when I stopped drinking pop. Carbonated beverages make my bladder ANGRY.

[@troyaccola7328]

I paused and laughed at “dairy by the pool” for an embarrassingly long time

[@zerosjl7935]

In the 80s my uncle used to sell vacuums door to door and he was so good that one time he ended up selling a lady two vacuums: one for the main floor and one for the upstairs.

[@giuliaquinn]

Brittany getting recruited to sell textbooks reminds me of trailer park boys when Ricky buys trinity all those encyclopedias

[@tatermashed3449]

The fact that im listenig to two women talking about their bowel movements etc. while im cooking & baking describes me to a tea

[@roxannediltz]

ready for some mlm (man like man) content!!!!

[@vampirebarbie_]

When Sarah was speaking about the sex toy MLM and then Brit said it prolly wasn’t an MLM I was here yelling PURE ROMANCE ITS PURE ROMANCE 😩😩😩😩 it is an MLM

[@peytonwaldera4897]

I like to listen to this podcast bit by bit when I get ready for work each morning and sometimes it’s the only thing that motivates me to get out of bed. I look forward to it every week. Plz keep it up, my dudes

[@kennedylea3354]

I went to high school an hour north of Los Angeles, and like twenty girls from my school are part of the same mlm. I posted something anti-mlm on Instagram and one of them tried to challenge it and I responded asking if their income was mainly based on recruitment, not product sales, and then the whole group of them unfollowed me. Sketchy mlms are definitely in California.

[@itsbridgetnw]

Culty for sure! I’m guessing it’s Monat lol

[@tayylorraee]

i went to high school an hour south of LA and a good 10-15 girls i went to school with are also in an MLM.. and strictly mostly facebook posters.. i would think california is probably a huge center for MLMs

[@curiouslyimogen.7733]

i don't think yall understand, this podcast is the HIGHLIGHT of my week. i countdown the days until yall post the next podcast i love it so much 😩

[@trentdietz230]

we need to get you both on questionable amounts of caffeine more often cuz this was the best episode so far

[@keirstinmiles5089]

My brother has been “working” for amway for like 5 years now. My mom is basically funding the entire thing which means EVERYTHING she uses from her skin care, hair care, makeup, dish soap, tile cleaner, protein powder, vitamins, supplements, essential oils, etc… are from amway. She’s now selling for them too and called me closed minded and negative when she told me to get 10 people on board and I said “that’s the definition of a pyramid scheme. I wouldn’t wanna do that if I knew 10 people”. They’re fully brainwashed and it’s literally driving a wedge between us.

[@stellaconlon9957]

I love this podcast and I always enjoy listening, Sarah and Brittany are both really funny and have great chemistry. I did just want to say, however, that we shouldn’t be so quick to judge people who have entered into an MLM or a pyramid scheme, because there are grades and shades of both and some are much more insidious and highly organised than others. They pray on vulnerable people who are desperate to make money; most often single mothers, women in abusive relationships and need to become financially independent, people who are generally very isolated in their lives, people who are trying to get out of debt, etc. These people are targeted and sold the promise of not only a self empowering way to make (lots of) money but also to be part of a supportive community in which their contributions are valued and there are opportunities to be rewarded for achievements. Unless we have been in a similar situation we can’t really speak to the intelligence or gullibility of such people. Furthermore, the fallout of being in an MLM or pyramid scheme is so much worse than being fired from a standard 9-5 or the negative aspects of being in a 9-5 because not only do you lose insane amounts of money and plunge yourself into debt (or further into debt) but you have probably lost contact with many friends and family along the way who either didn’t want to get involved or who did and also lost their life savings. Additionally, these “companies” organise themselves in a way that makes it incredibly hard to sue them or to get any kind of financial restitution, or to even leave in general. You have also lost the community you thought you had because they either haven’t seen yet how they will eventually be screwed over or they left long ago when you refused to believe them about what they were experiencing. It’s is a complex issue that has been perfectly tailored to the capitalist, neo-liberal hell scape we are living in, in which monetary productivity is the only way to have value in society and where the market will self correct for exploitative and destructive financial endeavours. Just something to think about.

[@SatinePlays]

Once a acquaintance was trying to recruit me for a MLM sceme. She was telling her story in all colors of the world and mid-way I was like "Wait a minute, is she trying to get me into this **" So halfway i said to her "So this is a pyramid sceme right?" and she started stuttering and mumbeling. The look on her face. She thought i was stuppid enough to fall for it. I mean she even got her mother tricked, like what? No Honey, good luck with that!

[@billybonbonson]

I’m glad every time I tune into this show I can guarantee that there will be at least one talk of defecation. Thank you

[@incrediblyslay]

as of this hour 49k people have listened to you two talk about shitting whilst in crushing scam debt. i am one of those people. i’m so proud of you! happy monday

[@tayloryoung9082]

Whenever the carpet cleaning vacuum people used to come door to door my mom would always have them demonstrate how the product worked on stained areas of the carpet from us kids tracking dirt into the house. And then when she was satisfied would send them off and never contact them again.

[@Claire-lu8hf]

Fun fact! Mlms are actually super popular within Mormon circles. They actually have a very similar structure as the church