The Egyptian Book of Thoth - Real Ancient Egyptian Initiation Ritual - Hermetic Philosophy

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beer joke was funny

[@thedarkmoonman]

chamber of darkness is the void in Buddhism or the holy of hollies. The cave ( holy mary).

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I really appreciate your channel. Instead of telling us how to do "magic", like some of those KZbin mages like to do, you inform us in a scolary manner about the subject. Not pretending to summon demons or creating the philosophers stone but real information about the different books, scrolls or papyrus and their hystory. Thanks.

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

I'm all about practicing occultism (etc.) in whatever way is edifying but this channel is academic. However, I hope a whole spectrum of people could find the information useful.

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@@TheEsotericaChannel practicing occultisme is a really personal experience which is different for everybody. The history behind the texts is something I was looking for. I found that here and it inspired me to take some new staps in my study.

[@duantorruellas716]

You are very wise my friend . I took many years studying the academic background on these arts before starting the practice. Many gods go through changes over the centuries and knowing the beginnings of them is important. Like pazuzu the demon that attacked Linda blair's character in the exorcist. Highly unlikely pazuzu would attack little girls as it was pazuzu who protected children before hollywood got their hands on this entity. And also what started as people saying a few words to their daemons before leaving the house that changed to people praying to demons before leaving the house. Here people started to see this go from an internal to what was thought of as an external power . The understanding of how systems changed over history tells us much about the bare bones of the system at its core.

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@@TheEsotericaChannel I'm actually curious what your particular religious culture thinks about your occult interest. Pretty much know what christians and muslims think ...but never had insight into Jewish perspective on this .

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There aren't enough scholarly videos about hermetics and alchemy so thanks for making this. Love.

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Yes there it manly p hall did 7000 lectures on these topics

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Annie besant, charles leadbeater and all the above

[@A-No-One]

You light workers and fluff bunnies are the death of the real occultism.

[@inphiknitfractal]

Robert Sepehr does a great job on this subject also

[@bronxlords]

So much knowledge and information kept from us is so unfair. A terrible injustice.

[@goblin3359]

In Sydney we refer to Ibises as 'bin chickens', because they have a reputation as urban scavengers. Sadly this is because of the destruction of their natural habitat, but I am very fond of them nonetheless - not least because of their association with Thoth/Hermes. As an underpaid academic, they remind me that one can be both a scholar AND a bin chicken. Another fascinating video. Thank you Dr. Sledge.

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This channel is refreshing and grounded. No 'whoo' or ego. Many thanks.

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Well said. My sentiments, exactly.

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Whoo or ego Nice bars

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I really love the format of your videos in which you ALWAYS offer reading recommendations. Thank you so much for your work!

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No one's going to educate you better than you !

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Your channel is criminally underrated. I appreciate your efforts. Great job

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Thanks for your appreciation and thanks for watching!

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I can’t express how grateful I am for you doing this. I am just in awe of all the connections and synchronicities in stumbling onto this channel. Thank you

[@miester11ekopt44]

Yes I feel ya. I just started listening to an audiobook called the hermetisism collection. And this video ...

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Your sense of humor makes this channel so much greater. Loved your beer joke

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I’m really enjoying this channel, it’s eye opening. Thank you Dr. Justin Sledge

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Me too💕

[@RegularDudeNotWearingSox]

Absolutely love your channel and just subscribed. Been doing a lot of reading from the various Hermitic texts and I am currently reading the likely botched translation of the book of the dead, but it's nice to occasionally take a break from page turning to just listen to the wisdom others have already uncovered with their own research. Thanks for the fascinating and informative videos!

[@davidnichols2494]

Absolutely beautiful as always ancient Egyptian magic and religion is one of my favorite subjects thanks so much

[@crosswalk5804]

I am enthralled! Thank you for putting so much care into teaching this to us! You and others like you are gems on this earth. Shalom!

[@Tom-bs3zh]

I'm studying Coptic right now, once I have both Sahidic and Bohairic "mastered" I plan on diving into Middle Egyptian Hieroglyphics. I feel it's best to start with Coptic because it will allow me to get a clearer grasp on the workings of this interesting language.

[@tzunammi]

Too bad it's being white washed as with all Afro Semites and Asiatic descents... the largest Coptic diaspora populations are in the United States, in Canada and in Australia.

[@courtneyderouen]

@@tzunammi you should check out Robert Sepehr’s channel and Atlantean Gardens, his other channel. His research is mind blowing.

[@Maoilios12]

I made the mistake of studying Middle Egyptian first. Huge mistake. What resources are you using for Coptic?

[@spacetimeworm]

Being that I, myself, am entirely uneducated on these matters, this will probably be a dumb question: Is there some reason you are starting with Middle Egyptian as opposed to Early Egyptian hieroglyphs? Wouldn't it make more sense to start at the beginning, chronologically? This is not meant to be a trolling or a shitty comment, btw. As stated, I am ignorant, just curious..

[@mvjonsson]

@@spacetimeworm All language courses in Egyptology start with Middle Egyptian, which is classic Egyptian, and then proceed to Old Egyptian, Late Egyptian, Coptic.

[@genghisgalahad8465]

I can't express enough the amazing resonances and singular brilliance of this episode from a year ago (!) that I had thought would also elude me intellectually as I attempt to grasp even the foundational concepts discussed and only just now played. As temerity and gall compelled, I began to play it in background, gasp, while neck deep in a mundane assigned real estate review chore, which I normally do not do, since office jazz/shamanic flute music can lull me. And Thoth has been and continues to be the most fascinating figure from Ancient Egypt! Every second of the episode had me pause desk work to watch it all and take it all in! Plus serendipities come to mind! A certain path to step onto with integrity and intrepidness. Hekat/Haket 🍺 raised to you, Doctor Justin Sledge! Soon half the full attention watch numbers will surely be mine! May 📜 scrolls of Thoth find you always! 📚 📖 ✍️ 🪨

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Why are there so many crazy people in this community?

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Just keep staring at it.

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Thanks for sharing your knowledge so elegantly. I love the way you simplify the whole without losing the parts.

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The blessing is having this channel to summarize and bring forth this beautiful subjects in such an easy language. And I love the subtle humor ❤

[@stevenbollinger9776]

I was introduced to Hermeticism by a dear friend of mine who recently passed away. Although I have some knowledge of the Latin and Greek Classics, before meeting my friend, I wasn't entirely sure what the term "Hermetic" meant. (That's true, but also, I think, a good joke about the academic separation of a few ancient texts deemed "Classic" from all the rest.) I first came across your channel yesterday, and I've watched several of your videos on Hermeticism since then. Right at the very beginning of the first video I saw the volumes by Lynn Thorndike on the shelf behind you, which to me was a very hopeful sign of quality, and you haven't disappointed in the slightest. Then toward the end of that video I was thinking, Well, this guy's the bomb, but I still need some help sorting out the editions of the primary sources -- BUT YOU RECOMMEND EDITIONS OF THE PRIMARY SOURCES!!! On KZbin no less! So I'll be working my way through some of the primary texts, in order of their linguistic difficulty for me: Latin first, because it's the easiest for me, then Greek, then... well, I guess, for me personally it's a tie for 3rd place between Armenian and Coptic and Hebrew and Arabic and Aramaic, and did I forget any? But yeah, I'll definitely let you know how that goes! I'm stoked! Amazon has shipped Festugière's edition of Asclepius!

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U echo my appreciation of the Doctor. Isnt he amazing? So much nonsense on you tube, I almost didnt believe what I was watching at first. Me stoked too! Hoohoo!

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It’s rare to find a great teacher like dr Justin

[@lsb2623]

there is so much evidence that points to an older civilization.

[@courtneyderouen]

Of course! You would love Robert Sepehr’s channel, Atlantean Gardens. He’s an amazing anthropologist and great at his research presentations.

[@courtneyderouen]

@K Heru that’s very disappointing to find out if that’s true. I will stay aware to that possibility. Thanks for letting me know!

[@spacetimeworm]

What an absolute pleasure listening to a person with so much knowledge. I love to observe lectures presented by people who exist several (or several dozen..) levels above me in regard to any formal education on a subject. Usually, I have to replay every sentence, or every few sentences, to gain a full (fuller, yet sadly, eternally incomplete, if I'm honest) understanding of the material. I can't even imagine the myriad hours you must have spent just absorbed in these ancient, ethereal and magical worlds through your research, literally discovering the lost secrets of mankind and those of our universe. It's quite evident that one thing which makes your content so attractive to viewers is how passionate you are about the subject. It's always refreshing to see proof that people are capable of creating their livelihood from something they truly enjoy. Thank you Doctor J!!

[@trentp151]

Someone: "Summarize the Book of Thoth?" MAN: "O' Lord, hold my beer" Profound....

[@A-No-One]

Lol no

[@wendywywrot7600]

I really appreciate your humor in this video! You are making learning more fun that way. :) Thank you. 🙏👼💗

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I love occultism it's brought so much spiritual growth for me.

[@keyscook]

What a super puzzle - similar to figuring out high-end cryptography, my friend! Here's a symbolic guess: * Catching fish in the net = Gathering thoughts and concepts to be put into writing. Very interesting the correlation with Hermes The Thrice Great. As we have entered The Age of Aquarius, (The Water Bearer), answers and enlightenment are coming forth...

[@timothystamm3200]

Well, the Greeco-Roman-Egyptian syncretismm held that Hermes and Thoth were one and the same. So perhaps Hermes the Thrice Great is referring to a God of Wisdom, specifically perhaps Thoth, rather than a person. In fact, they also believed the gods ruled Egypt as Pharoahs before the Old Kingdom, so it's possible any description of him speaking to people and just wandering about is referring to that belief in his rule at some time in the past.

[@chompachangas]

Thanks, Doc. Your videos have been invaluable to me on my journey through Hermeticism and personal alchemy.

[@kitt765]

Wow! Your site is so interesting. You are clear & easily followed & make connections I've often wondered about but didn't know enough about to resolve on my own. You help synthesize it all. You're also an honest academic I think & that's not always easily found. I'm sure you have seen enough to be able to unpack that statement. God bless you & your work.

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I have wanted to know of this knowledge since 5th grade, and I am now 32 😊 thank you for racking your brain for the better of others!

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Dr Sledge you are a universal treasure.

[@SaveTheBiosphere]

Another great video, thank you!

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Thank you so much Dr. Sledge! You are fantastic!!!! I deeply enjoyed this video and I am more then grateful that you bring these ancient wisdom back on screen! Thank you and blessings to you! Mer, Dela

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What a Blessing to have this Channel on KZbin. I am sure Thoth is smiling :)

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The level of this content is everything I'm on youtube for!

[@Nuru_77]

GREAT stuff. Looking very forward to your unfolding of the Book of Coming Forth by Day ! Great dry humour. Beautiful, refined scholarly revelation in the nuance you share. Thank you so much ! Relatively new subscriber in Canada. Keep up the great work, you got me.

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I LOVE the combination of dry humor and a scholarly approach to spiritual subjects.

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From Nigeria 🇳🇬. Thank you for the free knowledge

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Love your channel! Thank you for devoting your time and resources to this :)

[@FreemanPresson]

Great summary! I would add a few observations based on my recent reading of this book. A huge part of the difficulty of the text is that it is fragmentary even by ancient manuscript standards (I sang "lacuna, lacuna" to the tune of "Corinna, Corinna" at certain points). There are numerous instances of reference to the opening of the mouth ritual, or the underlying method of "Telesmatics." (Not sure if I coined that) aside from describing the initiation of the scribe. It is also clear that the hieroglyphs themselves were viewed as spiritually alive, and that much of the education of the scribe required learning to listen to the voice of each of them. Lastly, I doubt we will get much further into the connections to the Hermetica without discovering more of the related texts. 42 sounds about right. I hope they do turn up, and that someone has the nerve to publish _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Books of Thoth_.

[@ziu1163]

I absolutely love your channel. Something that occurred to me while watching this was how interesting it would be to get your perspective on how a scholar in each of several periods would have viewed the pedigree of their literature. For example, would an early Hermetic scholar believe they could trace their wisdom to a literal Thoth? Did Medieval readers of the Zohar think of this wisdom as having come spontaneously from Rashbi, or perhaps as belonging to an older oral tradition? And did the movement of literary Humanism view themselves as unearthing ancient truths that would recycle some sort of golden age, or did they view their work more as literary archeology? I suppose you could call this a metaretrospective or something.

[@attackofthewindmills]

So very well done. You are able to understand perspectives of the human being through time as their consciousness of themselves were bound to their time period. It's more scientific than interpretation because essentially it's about unbiased observation. The way we are taught is that one can step into the past and become like them and rewrite things so that it conforms to truth. In other words, can we really write down things today and claim they will be truths 100 of years later? We cannot and if we understand we are attempting to look at it the same way in these hermetic text.

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"Let's talk religion" sent me here and I'm really glad for that! Would you consider making an episode (or more) about the Tarot?

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Oh, and I doubt you don't already know it, but if so, check out the phenomenal podcast series "SHWEP" (Secret History of Western Esoteric Philosophy). It's a treasure and shouldn't you already be in contact with the guy, hit him up, I'm sure you'd have a lot to talk about!

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Ever since listening to Terrence McKenna talk about Alchemy and The Hermetic Tradition, I have become deeply fascinated. It’s a pleasure to watch your videos. Keep up the work!

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Although some would say our souls are on thin ice delving into these subjects I truly feel this is mentally one of the safest places online right now. At least for me! I've had to filter out a LOT of semi toxic channels these last few days sadly - I think the algorithm thinks I'm looking for Jesus, lol. Thank you for providing a safe and cozy environment to delve into these subects in a neutral and scientific way! I will buy you a coffee (can't afford pre ww1 absinthe I'm afraid) as soon as the stars are right.. or my disability comes through more likely! :'D

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What I like about you is your deeth of knowledge

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Yours and Angela's Channels are so wonderful and are very inspiring. Thank you for making such great content!

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

My pleasure and thanks for watching!

[@kheryheb9451]

Hello I found his speech on such a niche topic as the Book of Thoth really interesting. I wasn't hoping to find a job of this quality on youtube, so thank you so much. I look forward to your intervention on the Book to Get Out in the Light of Day. In the meantime, I offer you my best wishes for your research and I hope you will want to share it with us. Thank you

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Glad you found the content rewarding!

[@dontchewglass]

"Hold my heqet... that's Egyptian for beer" That made me grin, great video as always!

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Thank you very much

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I absolutely love your channel it's so informative thank you for your work and all your knowledge

[@jbaquinones]

I think you are right Dr Sledge. Your description of the initiations of the book of Thoth sound very familiar to Golden Dawn, Rosicrusian and Free Masonic initiations. Well, Golden Dawn primarily since the officiating officers represent Egyptian deities. W. Westcott, a founder of the GD required new initiates to read the Corpus Hermeticum. He said that it would help the initiate of the 0=0 grade to comprehend the initiation ceremony. I believe that you and Westcott are correct.

[@courtneyderouen]

@@randellhillspeaks753 do you have a recommended reading on this. I understood Enoch to be pure and actually spoke against the Nephilim and their practices.

[@duantorruellas716]

Another amazing class justin , many thanks .

[@ghostraven339]

Hello. Love your work. Especially your sense of humor. Great way to make the work interesting to those who are not in love with it already. Which of course I am. I did notice that you pronounced Thoth in this episode as Toth, and the correct way in the episode of Who is Thoth. However, I liked your language explanation and considering how many things are written and in many different languages, as well as, writers it's no wonder how many different pronunciations there is. I'm sure you teach in an area far from me. Too bad I would love to pick your brain on what I don't know. I'm also trying to learn Hebrew and Aramaic to read ancient text in the original meaning. Translated text does not always come off the same.

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I have watched enough of your videos to tell this channel is going to get VERY popular considering the obscure subject matter, you will be the esoteric guy... I love the variety, I love the approach, and I love how you break down complex subjects, though I am no beginner at this myself, I still get insight, even on topics I know well.

[@wayne164]

Thank you for this educational information.

[@williampatchen]

I really appreciate you introducing this subject This helps a lot And I like your personality and sense of humor I just started reading the book of Thoth And I find it difficult to grasp

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thanks for sharing this

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Thank you 4 your existence... I've learned a lot connecting the DOTS... humbly

[@buffewo6386]

Your mention of 42 vultures made me think of the 42 "Negative Confessions" in the soul-weighing ...

[@Thebusysuperhuman]

Thank you. As always very informative.

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I appreciate this channel and am grateful for the chosen offering of information. Thank you!

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Thank you..sending love and light to you

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It's the heart of occultism.

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[@RyanPerrella]

Great work Dr. Justin Sledge, great macro photography in the intro, can’t wait to here what you can share about Thoth. :-)

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Very well done. I enjoy your channel very much.

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Man, it's cool to see that they use super clever word play, and that we've been able to identify word play.

[@jonwood2684]

Your intro is very well done. It feels uber scholar

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

Thanks!

[@danielray4810]

It is interesting that 42 is the answer the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.

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Thanks for another great video!

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I love how deadpan you are 😂 I deeply appreciate your willingness to teach and share on here for us! I will donate and try to subscribe on Patreon, keep up the good fight 😊

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This is good stuff I enjoy any of your videos on egypt or hermeticism I have grown my library a bit too which is always nice.

[@fiberglass101]

That was a lot of fun. I understood nothing, but it was a lot of fun. Thank you.

[@crosswalk5804]

Stopping in at 10:50 to say wow! Thanks for this knowlege, what a great format. You are a good teacher. And this information points to Jesus for me and any who will come i must add. Thank you again!

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Love your channel sir. So very thankful for your work.

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I LOVECTHIS CHANNEL AND JUST RECENTLY SUBSCRIBED!

[@SamuelFavata]

Gonna have to snag some of this literature! Rlly enjoying these lectures 😀 thnx!

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Thank you for sharing!

[@ivornworrell]

*Wow, Dr Justin Sledge I'm both fascinated & riveted by your videos on the arcane, bcz this type of knowledge transcends that of The Natural Sciences, viz a viz Mathematics, Biology, Physiology, Physics, Chemistry, Philosophy etc., although I must admit that my knowledge on the esoteric is so minute that it does not even register on the Mathematical scale, but my insatiable curiosity & quest for such knowledge is my impetus, my catalyst. Saludos from The Caribbean.*

[@lrm52283]

Your cadence, mannerisms, voice all reminds me of Thomas Lennon (lt. Dangle I reno 911). Possibly even a little in looks as well, hard to tell with the beard and glasses

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"It was a really heavy feather. We had it made special."

[@evanstential]

this is great stuff! I imagine the scribes have worked hard to gather and form the information. they would not want some vagrant to come and take all they have worked for so easily. I imagine this is the cause for all the barriers. Also, perhaps this is to change a persons way of thinking so they may come to understand the ideas presented. As I have come to think different after learning a 3D program.

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Sheeeesh. I just found this channel and don't even know where to begin. Gotta start somewhere, here is where I landed 😅

[@ladykheperaankh999]

GREAT VID, DR. SLEDGE!!🙌 THOTH (Tjehuty) is also associated with the Divine Benben, he also stole 5 days from the other Neteru ( playing Kemet)., thus adding the final 5 days in our calendar

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good channel...thanks...LVX

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Thanks!

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I really appreciate this video!!!

[@inphiknitfractal]

Kind of amazed how few scholars on this subject point out the relevance of the depictions of the bodily energetic systems / organs (generally above the head) & form representation in general that each represents... Osiris having the Pericardium.. Anubis the dog representing the underworld / stomach..Thoth-Horus higher bird mind..(Quetzyl-Qoatle translating Bird-Serpent) Each having their powers fractally via decision making influence (Head-Thoth-Intellect, Heart-Isis/Osiris- Intuition, Gut-Anubis-Instinct) .. If these 3 main centers, each with it's own neurological capacity, are functioning coherently, there is harmony (measurable w biofeedback Heart Spectral Analysis, Heart-Brain coherence on modified EKG devices available from Heartmath Inst or Dan Winter.

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Thank you so much..for incredible amount of information..

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Love the dry humor ! Needs more!!!!!!

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Thanks so much for your channel and the work that you do!

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great stuff . i really apreciate your good work sir.

[@grim-1369]

😮 I think you may have just answered a question that came up during meditation almost a year ago when you were just talking about the chamber of darkness.

[@Hammarrr]

Hahahha... "Hold my Heket". Brilliant and hilarious! Thank you for this content. Makes my morning commute bearable.

[@sleepinggiant333]

It cannot be understood but through experience. The road to infinity is the road of stillness. It is the road of non-attachment, bondage. That being said, it cannot be spoken of with a result of understanding. The words are only pointers. One must walk the road themselves. Inner stillness, non reaction: are stepping stones to this magical discovery of infinite wisdom. This is the narrow gate Jesus spoke of. Jesus awoken to much of his wisdom while in Egypt.

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This channel is great. Just great. Thank you.

[@kilowhiskeyalpha6078]

The mystic books including the "original" bible were written in a manner to exclude the unworthy. This would include symbolism and allegory, for example the temple of darkness is the meditative state, the Baboon basks in the light of the sunrise, the Ibis inhabits the water (heaven) and the earth. The process is the evolution of the consciousness or enlightenment or the coming forth whilst incorporeal from the slumber, the academic mind would struggle to decipher this context.

[@ungodly-podcast42]

The association of the ibis with Thoth actually has more to do with papyri, as they would scour the marshes for food, themselves being rather obvious sights, and those who followed the ibis would find both food and more material for writing. Reducing water to an analogy for "heaven" loses much of the vital nuance.

[@Leiferuphugus]

"Positively puzzling".... I see what you did there. ;)