Steven Bergwijn responds to Ronald Koeman saying he’s done with Netherlands | ESPN FC

ESPN FC’s Kay Murray, Shaka Hislop, Herculez Gomez, Ale Moreno and Frank Leboeuf discuss the back-and-forth between Steven Bergwijn and Netherlands head coach Ronald Koeman regarding Bergwijn playing for Saudi Pro League club Al-Ittihad.
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[@karl7736]

Bergwijn should have said That he understands that it is the coaches decision and Koeman has never made it past year 2 in any of his positions in the past 10 years so I look forward to working with the national team next year.

[@godsonodili6757]

😂😂😂

[@0fwRs]

bergwijn has been finished regardless ever since he joined spurs

[@prod.bydiegocorleone]

Thats something a white person would say😂😂

[@henryaugustineagbogie8375]

Savage💯💯

[@mazharul]

100 💯

[@mohamedsahidkoroma1687]

And Laporte won the Euro playing in the Saudi Arabian League

[@curtischarles5299]

They will ignore that

[@LudiCrust.]

Laporte only made the team bc of mass Spanish injuries. Several Spain players missed the euros and guys like Laporte & Zubimendi benefitted.

[@e0134-y1f]

​@@LudiCrust. just not true at all, he has a good relationship w le normand who was the other cb, youre totally wrong and just yapping, regardless of him benefitting from it he still played very solid and showed it rly doesnt matter if hes playing in a top 5 league or saudi, not sure what youre talking abt

[@LudiCrust.]

@@e0134-y1fthat’s not true. He only made the squad bc of injuries. The Saudi league makes MLS look like the Premier League.

[@e0134-y1f]

@@LudiCrust. ur literally wrong, like not opinion based wrong, youre incorrect. you can look it up and use google man its not hard, also i also think saudi league is very poor in terms of quality but if he comes to the euros and performs like he did who cares where hes playing, at the time w spain he played very well and was definititely a key part of the fact spain literally won the competition

[@swordis45]

These people telling a big man he should not play in Saudi. Koeman is an imps

[@AssassinDM1]

This is ah Trini

[@andrewfrancis3695]

Trini 2 d bone 😂

[@insideinside9450]

Koeman did not say he should not go to Saudi Arabia. The coach said his move to saudi can be infered as a lack of ambition from the player.

[@tradobiwatche79]

Lmao

[@user-bi4bb6cd9s]

Laporte of Al-Nassr was the strtn cntr-bck for European Champions Spain. If u dont wnt 2 pick him, just dont, why then make a big deal out of it?!

[@Jukuuuuu]

I have no problem with a player responding tbh

[@D12eben]

People are acting like these players are going to Saudi to not play sport

[@azide6172]

They are

[@sihleduma8481]

Exactly, its frustrating man.

[@r0yalew1thcheese]

Brother, who gives up a guaranteed placement in the champions league to go play in saudi? CL should be every player's dream. Giving this up just shows where his head is at. And for a coach of the national team you want your players playing at top levels. No one is saying they don't play football in saudi, it's just not top level.

[@sihleduma8481]

​@@r0yalew1thcheeseguaranteed where? When ajax is in the europa league.

[@r0yalew1thcheese]

Yeah my bad europa league. Still higher then any tournament he will play in saudi​@@sihleduma8481

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[@limirl]

Ask Jules about his undying love for Koeman

[@damioncouture1211]

The Dutch guy lol 🤣 🤣

[@cedrickdibengue730]

Exactly what I was thinking about 😅 would have loved to hear from Juls on this😂😂

[@shaquillefraser500]

Bergwijin most be calling saudi saying put an extra 4 mill in my account for advertisement on ESPN 😂

[@saqeralotaibi4270]

Who needs those bums

[@shaquillefraser500]

@@saqeralotaibi4270 I know some player's do need the money for family reasons carrasco left athletico Madrid for money then came back

[@madlanganehleza1433]

Same reason Sancho and ETH fell out how can you call out someone in public but we blame the player for responding back

[@MarkE-te2ju]

The situation was deeper than you portray. Remember manager gave him 4 months off. There were multiple reports regarding his training and effort in practice. I’d want him gone , too with the wages he got. If Chelsea get something out of him I’ll be shocked. 😐

[@madlanganehleza1433]

@@MarkE-te2ju that was just a way for ETH to cover himself to make Sancho look bad such an accomplished player at BVB playing with Halaand and being a top assister for Halaand now he's a flop no way ETH can't see Antony and Mount as flops but he can say Sancho doesn't train well what about all the other coaches who've coached are they crazy no man ETH made a mistake his pride won't let him admit he was wring on this one

[@MarkE-te2ju]

@@madlanganehleza1433 we will see. I agree with you. No doubt he is a talented player. I’m not sold on his mentality. If he comes good, I’ll be happy for him. When you are young you will make mistakes. Hopefully he will grow from this. ETH? The jury is still out.

[@madlanganehleza1433]

@MarkE-te2ju as a Man Utd fan I don't wish bad on either of them Sancho for personal reasons and ETH for my team

[@MarkE-te2ju]

@@madlanganehleza1433 I’m a fan as well. ETH has had a slow start. We have Ugarte and players coming back from injury. I hope he can turn it around. 😃

[@Photosoflife]

A lot of people appear to forget these players play the sport as a profession and are looking to make as much money as possible in their profession, just like anybody else in the workforce and in any other line of work. This judgment of players securing generational money is ridiculous. Writers talk about "legacies" and create storylines for players, coaches, and teams for their own professional reasons. All of these players are only one injury away from it all being over. I judge no player that goes after the big bags of money. Because all of these clubs will use them, pay them as cheap as possible, and spit them out ASAP whenever possible. Football is big business.

[@sociolocomtsac]

Sure, and the coach, as a professional, has to make his own decisions. Bergwijn isn't entitled to anything.

[@nyantakyibannor9328]

Truer words have never been spoken!!!🤝

[@timothyeyagbon6474]

Spot on!

[@wayne8797]

Yup, normal professions last like 40+ years but these guys only have 10-15 years. The lucky few can become pundits or managers but there are only so many spots available...

[@deandresmall8482]

​@sociolocomtsac Not Entitled to play for Koeman an Koeman doesn't Entitled to pick him but Koeman doesn't have the rights to disrespect the player for making his money

[@Ghostldnx]

I wish Bergwijn all the best, the current state of football is ruthless players are used as business assets nothing more nothing less and he chose for him self which I respect even though I do hope he gets called up for the Dutch national team in the future

[@benjaminhendriksen]

Almost every dutchman hopes he will not be called up. His motivation was a point of discussion for years. This move is just the last drop of water in the bucket.

[@Ghostldnx]

Even if they call him up they most likely will play Memphis & Gakpo on the left even Malen has a higher chance

[@benjaminhendriksen]

@@Ghostldnx depay is out of the national team also because he does not have an active club. That decision was not permanent though. But most of the dutch do not want depay or bergwijn to play. Hopefully Zirkzee does well at man utd. We got enough option on the flanks. I think Koeman just want to give a signal to other players too.

[@Ghostldnx]

@@benjaminhendriksen Fair Point, Let’s hope Jong Oranje can bring In some new talent

[@shabirosmani667]

​@@benjaminhendriksenDepay is going to play in Brazil

[@alaska4joe]

Ale’s and Shaka’s points of view were the most convincing. Bergwiin did achieve the top-level playing in the EPL and National team. There is now the balance of the childhood dreams of being the Champions League final MVP and securing your post-game life. Not all high-salaried pros spent or invested their money well enough during their prime to be content with what's possible financially. If Bergwiin was 22, then Frank has more of a point.

[@Prasko131]

Koeman was criminal for keeping Frimpong on the bench for Bergwijn. I guess he learnt his lesson

[@blorenz7421]

You do know they play different positions right 😅

[@blackmantis3130]

Different positions

[@DaveAndrewGoggins]

Frimpong is a defender 😂

[@insideinside9450]

I also do think frimpong did not have a good euros.

[@amareto5772]

Koeman left the National team for Barcelona few years ago. What a hypocrite..

[@HussainHayki]

well he went to a big club, while bergwin downgraded

[@Chargeittothegame23_]

Exactly, hypocrite!

[@tushar_ranjan7]

Frank, what you said was horseshit.

[@ChocoPaid-vp8yz]

Coming from the manager who failed at Everton and Barcelona

[@bartderuiter3509]

How is that relevant

[@Prasko131]

Also one of the best defenders of all time

[@meilyn22]

Playing football is a job. It's like saying if another network offers you a bigger salary, you wouldn't go there. The hypocrisy is crazy.

[@Flashkoch]

You're a sad and delusional person if you think playing football as a pro is a job. It's a privilege.

[@zorashki]

Hypocrisy what? it's a job yes. But the level of football there is too easy. it's 10x different when you play in Europe that's a fact you cannot deny it.. so he will get used to playing in a super easy league then suddenly get to play for the national team again real tough skilled players? I don't think you get the point they are making.

[@bwenguking3894]

​@@zorashki You put it as if Bergwjn was crying for a spot in the Dutch team. On the contrary Bergwjn's beef was in response to Koeman lambasting him in public. By the way, why did Koeman call up Widjnaldum who also plays in Saudi Arabia? That my friend is hypocrisy of the worst order. Koeman is a fool.

[@Oppelstanios]

@@zorashkiSo wasn’t Laporte playing in Saudi league when he won the Euros. Your whole point is invalid now

[@Oppelstanios]

@@bwenguking3894he don’t even know what hypocrisy is.

[@ryanjohnson6272]

There's no problem with him taking the money. But he should realize that it comes with consequences

[@yomomma8791]

Yea the consequences are he is sleeping with slick sheets making crazy money

[@curtischarles5299]

So what about laporte playing in saudi called up for Spain and won the euros ? You see you all are media puppets . The media sell you the idea that once you play somewhere except the epl then you're no good.

[@darkenvoy9991]

What being rich?

[@curtischarles5299]

@@ryanjohnson6272 laporte won the euros starting for spain ,playing in saudi.

[@BC-mj7gj]

@@curtischarles5299you are going far, he called Winaldum who also plays in Saudi😂

[@DIRAWASETV]

Any player good enough to play for the Dutch NT is definitely good enough for any of the top 5 leagues, and playing in Saudi Arabia is not a big deal these days.

[@footballhipstertv]

Koeman as a manager is an actual clown. And I say that as a Barça fan.

[@FeelsGoodKek]

I fully agree. 😂 (I'm dutch)

[@010Jordi]

I'm Dutch and catalan, and koeman is still a barca legend and was stabbed in the back by laporta, who is destroying my club

[@footballhipstertv]

@@010Jordi Koeman has been one of the worst Barça coaches in the last 2 decades, after Quique Setien. Laporta had to get him out, and wanted him out from the first minute. I've never seen Barça play worse football than they did under Koeman Fans just love to blame Laporta for everything

[@freddyhutapea7246]

@@footballhipstertv Don't worry. The guy above you is an idiot and absolutely not a Barca fan. If you are a Culés and enjoying the way Barca played when Koeman was our coach, you need to check your brain. Laporta is not perfect but he's not the villain. Barto and his compatriots are the villains and I hope...I HOPE those guys rot in jail for what they have done to Barcelona.

[@StefanoUnlimited]

@@footballhipstertv THe football Koeman played in the first few months at barcelona was way more attractive than the football under predecessor making the squad not revolve around messi but using messi as a facilitator in his system.

[@TheTemporalArbiter]

I would have never thought I would agree with Ali 🤔 .... Strange things happen every day

[@HussainHayki]

Shaka made a great point

[@tobaepebinuade5830]

I know that Steven Bergwijn and Gini Wijnaldum are at different stages of their careers as one has won the most significant trophies at club level while the other is in his prime, but can someone remind Ronald Koeman that he’s still calling Wijnaldum up to the national team despite the fact that he’s playing his football in Saudi Arabia, I mean didn’t he give him a couple of minutes at the EUROs. Oh wait I forgot there are managers in international football who have a level of favoritism and bias towards certain players. It’s not a good thing for a player’s career that they’re going to Saudi Arabia at the age of 26 especially when they’re at an age where they’re in their prime and while players have been going there solely for the money and economic reasons, from a footballing perspective playing in the Middle East means there are players who have faded away from the European scene and not playing at the highest level could impact a player’s status in the national team which is why Koeman came out and said that his door with the national team is closed. He’s not wrong, but at the same time it’s very stupid in a sense that look at guys like N’Golo Kante and Aymeric Laporte for example who were excellent for their respective national teams at the EUROs even though they play in Saudi Arabia as going into the tournament, there were question marks as to whether or not they should’ve even been in the squad, despite all of that they proved a lot of people wrong and this is enough proof that if he’s still a good player regardless of what league he plays in, he’s still good enough for the national team.

[@seffbergkamp4877]

He doesnt select Wijnaldum anymore.

[@najachero1384]

The only reason he selected Wijnaldum was the injuries of koopmeiners and De Jong. He simply had no other alternatives with expierence to pick. Otherwise i highly doubt he would have picked up Gini.

[@zorashki]

it's different.. you said it. Geni is 33.. experienced. regardless of where he is playing he can get called up.. even Kante got called for France... why are you comparing these situations with a 26 prime guy at his young age going there? He won't evolve or get better there because the league is super easy that's a fact you cannot deny it.

[@dees343]

@@najachero1384he had gravenburc on the bench and didn’t play him over gini. Who had an horrible tournament btw…Koeman is a horrible manager. Let’s stop making excuses for him!

[@dees343]

Couldn’t agree more!!!

[@35timbala]

They ask Koeman in a Nederlands match preconference if he select Bergwijn if he goes to Saudi , and his answer was no!!, wat is wrong with that ,and Bergwijn earned 5 mil a year the past 4 years so he has no holes in his shoe's this is lack of ambition.

[@ArchangelTyrael]

But Koeman still put Wijnaldum into the National team despite that Wijnaldun played in the Saudi league?

[@dead_r33d]

5:25 so Frank's reasoning is that HE should have a say in when someone's money is enough for THEM? man shut up

[@seffbergkamp4877]

He is using Bergwijn as example for future Dutch players who are thinking of moving to Saudi Arabia. Players often become weaker when they play over there. ( Mitrovic, Milinkovic-Savic etc).

[@TheLaughingMustache-oh5ff]

I think they were spot on when they talked about where he is in his career. He probably didn't see himself getting above Eredivisie and decided this was his last chance to get a big check. I don't blame him for that. Koeman should have kept quiet.

[@alimelmalak7907]

well said Moreno as always... both players and coaches are free to make their own decisions, and what is optimal solution for one may not be ideal for others... the truth is that it is quite easy to forget the real constraints of decision-making, particularly when the economic conditions of many households depend on the income of a single person.

[@esaacjay]

It is pure envy! If he signed for a swedish club, Koeman would not pick him and also not criticize the move publicly. A grown man's decision about his career should be respected.

[@KezieKez]

Frank is on fire 🔥 🔥🔥

[@hectorberlioz1449]

If someone goes to the sandbox all my respect is gone!

[@bartdoorn9635]

Koeman selected also Wijnaldum for Euro 24, who plays in S-Arabie. Depay is 30 and goes for money to Brazil. But he does not exclude him. Koeman selects a lot on 'I like you' principles. I am from Holland. He knocks Bergwijn out, so he can still select Depay as second left winger behind Gakpo. That is his hidden agenda. Koeman and Depay are close to each other. Zirkzee will be the new centre striker of Holland. With backup of Weghorst. So he only can select Depay now for the left wing position. Bergwijn is better there actually. So he needed him to knock out with this BS reason.

[@corvus2512]

I sick of this entire debate, we are not talking about plumbers or teachers or clerks or factory workers being given the chance to go make multi millions of dollars, we are talking about players who ARE ALREADY MILLIONAIRES sacrificing their competitive career for the chance to become a little wealthier. Of course Koeman is correct the moment you do that you are done at the national level, should he have said nothing? Worded it differently? Maybe, but even the player must’ve known this would shut the door on his international career, he is just mad he got called out which is sad, own the decision you made. I wish these guys would just say “yeah this isn’t about sport, this is about me owning an extra yacht when I’m 40”

[@mattsmith4589]

Real ones remember Bergwijn saving Tottenham in that late 2 goal win. And Conte disrespected him and benched him. Conte has ruined a lot of tears.

[@bynahelemaal]

Lbh bergwijn had no options, ajax wanted to get rid of his wages, and this late in the transfer window, his only option was the saudi league! Obviously the financial aspect helps with saying yes to saudi

[@seffbergkamp4877]

He had options but didnt want to lower his wages.

[@danielforrest2952]

⁠@@seffbergkamp4877 I know we’re on different scales but I’m not leaving my job for less money so why would he

[@bwenguking3894]

​@@seffbergkamp4877 Whether you are a player, plumber, accountant etc, the bottom line is to better our lives. So yeah, a massive jump in one's salary is an opportunity that should be grabbed. Make hay while the sun is shining. A player's life at the top is too short.

[@seffbergkamp4877]

@@danielforrest2952 That ur right but says nothing about options

[@seffbergkamp4877]

@@bwenguking3894 5 million a year playing uefa/cl football or 9 million a year playing in a retiredment league. I would choose europe at 26 but I can respect ur opinion

[@TeamOT]

Pretty sure everything that was said about performance, fitness, skill, etc. went through Bergwijn's mind before signing. And he only clapped back because Koeman threw the first punch. He's the one with the feet, the skill, the body, the brain, the experience ... as if anyone else is in a better decision to decide for him.

[@agustinbjr]

Thing is, Bergwin IS good enough. He's a talent that didn't work out at Spurs but his potential is very high. That's the only reason why this is a debate. If it was a mediocre player, no one would care.

[@fugitivemoses7515]

I'm with Frank. It's not like he's poor or towards the end of his career. He already has enough money. But this is wat secularism gives u, u always desiring more wants.

[@dele6786]

Your points are valid. There is no such thing as 'enough money' that's why billionaires keep hustling even after earning so much. If you stop, that wealth reduces. It's basic economics. Nothing wrong playing for passion. But let's be realistic, we can always need another zero in our accounts. May we all be blessed with enough to take care of our responsibilities.

[@bibekneupane1262]

what is frank talking about? saudi league got better players than ligue 1

[@doubymezier6327]

People need to understand that those kids get into this trade for money anyway,I would take the Saudi Arabia money any time

[@BruceLee1.0]

He is only gonna make 9 million per season from the Saudi league. It doesn't look like a lot of money when players like rashford are earning 17 million a season

[@bwenguking3894]

​​​@@BruceLee1.0Ask yourself how much he was being paid at Ajax.I doubt if it was even half of the purpoted 9 million he is going to get in Saudi Arabia. If you put it in context that's huge.

[@BruceLee1.0]

@@bwenguking3894 he was earning close to 4 million. I understand your argument but you can easily earn that type of money with a single good season at Europe and bergwin is a good player so him moving for 9 million at 26 yr old doesn't make sense.

[@proviewplayr]

This is crazy if he went to Saudi its what's good for him and his family. Koeman should have kept that behind doors between them.

[@giltopline8007]

First of all Koeman was just answering a question. Second of all ofc he has to make this statement publicly to prevent other younger Dutch players with potential and caps to make such move too early in their careers. Lastly I understand Bergwijn’s choice because he will never get the chance to earn this much money ever again.

[@danielh4295]

This move doesn't really hurt Bergweijn sporting wise esp in the FFP era. He's going to be a sought after player to add to a lot of teams on a Free Transfer and most likely a more modest salary expectation.

[@taylor-j8k6i]

Ale Moreno is the best pundit in Espn fc. his analysm always spot on. what all espn fc pundit have to know playing any sport professional is a 'Profession' like doctor , Lawyer etc..the players looking for a good life for themselves and their family. Franck can you give the audiance some professional who work for proud? specially Frank always says money shouldn't priority for the player tell us why they play professional football for ? the players themselves know they need to work hard to be on the top to make more money. the clubs and national team don't help them when they retired

[@BC-mj7gj]

It’s not like Bergwijn is gonna miss winning some trophies with Netherlands so that loser Koeman can keep continue his foolishness. By the way he’s still calling Winaldum who also plays in Saudi

[@darkenvoy9991]

Exactly, they've been garbage for a very long time lol

[@seffbergkamp4877]

@@darkenvoy9991 last 2 tournements semi final and quarter final ( lost pens against Argentina ) not exactly "garbage"

[@seffbergkamp4877]

He is not calling Wijnaldum anymore. Dont spread lies

[@DailyDiscountNL]

Bergwijn made 5m a year at Ajax, to put things in perspective

[@DallanoJr]

How can someone talk so much and say nothing.... my man franc am sorry you can't even say it clear what u want to say... your so annoying to be honest

[@realbro1415]

As a Man, NEVER WATCH ANOTHER'S MAN POCKETS!!!! 💯💯💯

[@Dlajhhd]

Frank thinks French league is strong which no sport media want to coverage 😂😂

[@DaveAndrewGoggins]

And Depay went to Brazil but that’s fine. Double standards 🤢

[@hieronymus932]

Dutch people are upfront, Gomez don’t understand the Koeman / Dutch mentality.

[@siyakhanzimande4817]

It’s a win for Bergwijn

[@saqeralotaibi4270]

Koeman went to Saudi last season to watch Wenaldom with Gerard and then selected him for the Euros! Talk about hypocrisy.

[@deandresmall8482]

Koeman is wrong an it's not the first time he's disrespecting a player publicly he doesn't it already with Ryan Gravenberch when he just move to Liverpool

[@InspirationalMagic]

No one knows what “enough” money is. Stop judging by people.

[@Triple_X_X]

Bergwijn is miles better than 2017 Ronaldo.. He's just unlucky playing for Ajax

[@bill7481]

Such hypocrisy! So, I guess Gakpo took a pay cut moving to Liverpool in exchange for better football; Van de Beek took a pay cut at Utd for better football; de Jong took a pay cut at Barça for better football. At least he actually plays. Good on Bergwijn for securing his family’s future. He won’t be missing out much anyway. This Netherlands team, especially with Koeman in charge, won’t win anything.

[@abg6461]

Shaka is absolutely spot on here!👍bergwijn went to Spurs, but was sent back to eredivisie! so this might be an offer too good to reject, he himself has said he'll be better financially with the move!👍koeman shouldn't have made it public!👍

[@adrianbennett3761]

Why on earth did Koeman open his mouth. He could simply choose to pick him or not. Why burn bridges??

[@aminuraphael3667]

Is disrespectful to undermine Saudi Arabia league ...

[@abiodunoni420]

Mathieu Flamini made 10bn since leaving Arsenal in 2012. Do ever hear or see him seat in a studio to talk about football? Do you think he regretted not have more than 3 caps for France? With is his 10bn?

[@maxamedcabdullahi3693]

Kante is not the same player, what? How many times did he win man of the match in the euros? Hypocrisy!

[@ZaynWalad]

Money should be coming first. Football is job for them

[@dinopadayachee8289]

Now we're saying moving to Ligue 1 shows ambition 😂 but the only reason Ligue 1 became popular was because Monaco paid insane tax free wages and PSG paid crazy money too. No one would care about Mbappe if PSG didn't sign big names around him to lure them to the club. Frank is deluded 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Esco1234]

i do not understand why koeman attacked him as if soccer is not a business, at the end of the day players have mouths to feed.

[@surps1059]

who said they dont enjoy football in Saudi?

[@RazeefRazeff]

Frank talking about platini getting 25,000 dollar monthly for Juventus..maybe those days it was quite a big salary ..Platini was never a very wealthy man after retiring & becoming a manager of France & becoming FIFA president that corruption was his only ticket to getting richer..

[@TH-c1k2]

Portugal still call up Penaldo even though he is with Saudi league….. I don’t think it is just because of his diving abilities?

[@loudmouthdiaries5188]

I guess I found the moron on the Internet It's you.

[@PanAfricanist1963]

Sorry but I 100% agree with Koeman, no serious player would go to Saudi at 26 years

[@Den77nis]

Koeman is absolutely wright. Bergwijn is one of the biggest talents of his generation in the Netherlands. The man is simply not as ambitious or eager such as Weghorst, Xavi Simons or Cody Gakpo. That’s his caracter and his good right, Koeman is clear about it. Dutch people are straight communicators so growup and smel the coffee, Steven.

[@abrahamolakunleajibade202]

Frank is way off on this! I agree with Shaka and Ale and most importantly, I’m with Bergwijn.

[@ethanxuan77]

Ronald Koeman threw a tantrum.. you don't attack someone personally for making a choice that does not have an effect on your life... this bothers too many people because the money is not coming from a European nation. His job is being a footballer not just a European league participant... let the dude go wherever he will be paid for his craft, what he deems fit.

[@allyal93]

So a team can get an inflated transfer fee for a player from a Saudi team and it’s good business but a player can’t triple his wages because that’s lacking ambition. Either he’s selected to the national team on merit or not. Also some of these other leagues they swear are better. I’m not so sure.

[@VikramSingh-iy4zg]

if koeman and other managers or players dont make it public then shows like espn fc would be closed🤪

[@olumidedavid1923]

Shake speaks a lot of sense

[@UnicornHunterD]

If you go to MLS or middle east you are essentially retiring. Koeman was blunt but not wrong what he said.

[@jazz249]

i suspect mr Colman may also harbor some biases to the Arabs...

[@JR-sj1jz]

For someone who played professional football, Frank shows the naivety of an ordinary fan at times. You have players leaving Dutch and Portuguese teams that are in the champions league to play for some mid-table premier league team. Do you think the only reason they do that is to just be competitive? Of course not. Money is a massive reason why players move to better leagues. Ajax wage bill is less than of Leicester. A team that was in the freaking championship. Ivan Toney's contract was signed in the championship. So his wages reflected that. He had a desire for a big team because he knew they would pay wages that Brentford could never match. So let's stop with all this glorification about players thinking that they aren't motivated by money. Only a few elite can say that. For the rest, its a bigger part than we all want to admit.

[@interstellarbeatteller9306]

Like Holland can afford to be so choosy! Koeman the ego should have more respect for his fellow compatriot

[@future-ui2be]

If this was Jesse Lingard going to saudi at 26 (arguably far less talented than Bergwijn) people would be spinning this into a bad narrative. Now they applaude Bergwijn to grab his cash. People's opinions when it comes to football and money are completely arbitrary and bias.

[@schols03]

Are these people discriminating/degrading other leagues?

[@artixunited]

Saudi league is not bad as people portray. MLS is much worse when compared to Saudi. If MLS players can play for national leagues, so can Saudi league players. I don't understand this agenda. Saudi league is very competitive actually. Not sure why people are simply hating it.

[@AA-ki6zn]

I haven't watched the video yet but I think I know which side Shaka took. Am I right?

[@rebelwithacause8735]

Can't tell a player what to do with his career

[@rubp3088]

Frank once again did not understand the question and derailed the whole thing… tired of him honestly!

[@AlejandroJavierHernandez-si4qz]

Its ez, its just to spark controversy, they didnt have too bring it up.

[@paritdoshi9836]

Frank is not considerate at all! Frank, it’s not always the sporting reason. We need to secure the family for future generations!!

[@mcsmelt3393]

Why is it called professionel football. Getting played to play foorball in an empty stadium is the same money as a fulltime one.

[@Samouraimoh]

Stop judging people. They made their decision and stop comparing with old generation. Frank, when you were 24, there was no exodus to Qatar. Stop misleading people.

[@odedao]

Would frank blame Osimhen for going to saud Arabia

[@chiakeetong8539]

How does that Dutch Guy keep getting coaching jobs? Utter failure at Barcelona and now with the Dutch national team

[@David-kx1ir]

Saudi league is probably better than dutch league

[@bwenguking3894]

I think Koeman is hating on Bergwjn because the money Bergwjn is going to earn in a year in Saudi dwarfs what Koeman has ever earned as a player and a coach. That my friends is what is killing Koeman.

[@iammasenza312]

People are such hypocrites, he is a professional footballer. He is supposed to play and get the benefits. The premier league at some point had the highest wages and now that theres an abundance of oil money you want them to stay poor. Go get the bag Bergwin

[@georgesquarzon2690]

Bravi italiani. Complementi delka Argentina.

[@Samouraimoh]

Frank justifies for N'Golo Kante and not for the others. I remind you that France lost 3 to 1 against Italy with Kante, who did not play well.

[@n.b.a1]

Such hate for the Saudi league for no valid reason, a player went to saudi and suddenly he’s not good enough without even watching him play, ignorance at its finest, from the manager and from espn with their biased views. A player made a choice that would benefit him and his family, like every professional player that wants the biggest wages to secure their future, seriously your hate for Arabs is obvious. STOP THE HATE.

[@danielforrest2952]

Has no one thought that Ajax may have pushed him out the door we don’t know what happens behind closed doors

[@pus1546]

maybe you are right, because Bergwijn has been very poor at Ajax for almost 2-3 years, and he has big salary at Ajax.