Espresso Display Pro 17 Review

[@unleashthedog]

Wow the cost. I thought this could be a sneaky tablet-display replacement but not at that price. Impressed that despite the wobblyness of the pen you still make it work, the illustration shown there looks just like anything else you do on much better products, hats off for that!

[@brolychungus5034]

Just got it today and testing for my job. It does feel premium so far and the magnetic stand is really sturdy.

[@espressodisplays]

Thank you for taking a look at our device. Please drop us a line if you need anything or if we can assist.

[@kamm3021]

Ouch 1000$ wasted

[@fablewalls]

Yeh but Brad takes the pain so you don't have to.

[@trowawayacc]

Yeap so dont forget to like and suscribe. We do need more portable monitors with vessa.

[@whatthehellisthisname]

he'll probably return it

[@sadev101]

a tip i got for screen protectors installing... is do it in bathroom. turn on hot shower.. steaming hot. so you get kinda steam in the air. you will be way way less likely to get dust on it

[@legendboyAni]

Yo that's what i do when instaling screen protecter on my phone, i never thought other ppl know this to

[@htsunmiku]

​@@legendboyAni it's shared online a lot tbh

[@don-dori]

One needs an industrial grade dust collector or a sauna to apply these screen protectors.🤔

[@sloppynyuszi]

This thing is better at drawing stairs than that Huion Android tablet 😂

[@nathanstrik]

Thanks for this nice and honest review. Tip for next time you're reviewing external displays: can you check if they work in vertical orientation? It's what some people look for when shopping for a display. Thanks again and keep up the awesome videos!

[@germanfernandez1203]

When the Huion kamvas Pro 19 & 27 ?

[@ragecandy]

that's crazy bad, I still think that proart monitor with the wacom pen is some of the best value even with the mid review you gave it tbh

[@trowawayacc]

Can you remmember the name of the video? I am kinda in the market so i want to know.

[@miguelkuoman2465]

Agreed

[@ragecandy]

@@trowawayacc it's the asus pa169cdv

[@juanignacioaschura9437]

@@trowawayacc ASUS ProArt Pen Display Review by Brad Colbow

[@trashtbyghosts]

thanks for reviewing this chief! bummerrr they cant get the mpp out of the ditch look forward to your review of the new huions - will 220 nits & 60hz doom them??? tune in to colbow drawing news network 4 the real skinny!

[@NathanMilkie1]

Does anyone think that the pen issues could be fixed with software updates from Espresso?

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

Damn. I was very interested into getting it because I want a device that is a very portable monitor, big enough, and that has both pencil and finger touch. It’s to use with a PC btw, I’m not looking for a all-in-one tablet. I was waiting for your review since I didn’t hear enough about the pencil and that’s a damn shame, the rest was perfect. Any alternative product that fits what I described? Recently I saw the brand new Kamvas pro 19, how is it? Or got other ones?

[@trowawayacc]

Samsung galaxy s9 ultra is the better version of this.

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

@@trowawayacc That’s not a monitor, it’s a all-in-1 tablet… I’m not interested, I already have an Ipad pro. What I want is a *monitor* to use with my Steam Deck (I use it as a portable mini pc). I already use my Ipad pro for drawing, this is for a 3d use, mainly on Zbrush. The all-in-1 tablets just aren’t good enough in power for what I need on Zbrush, unlike the Steam Deck which is as good as my desktop pc.

[@RavenL1337]

@@TheGuraGuraManim sorry but you have an ipad pro? Or is an really old model, cuz new ipad pros can run 3d modeling really well! And did i hear this right? Zbrush on an stem deck? Bro that can bearly run windows let alone zbrush + Windows XD

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

@@RavenL1337 I don’t think you have any idea what you’re talking about. Windows & Zbrush works excellent on Steam Deck and allows me to handle 10 times more polygons than any 3d app on Ipad pro (which is the last one to date). I use it for professional printable work that can easily go over 100 millions polygons, I sure can’t do that on any Ipad at the moment.

[@sloppynyuszi]

@@TheGuraGuraMan yes, but you can use the iPad with some apps as an external screen for windows (admittedly I don’t rate them, and I with Sidecar is pretty janky too) and Samsung tabs have the ability to work like side car on windows, apparently with better results. Also there are third party apps to turn your Android tablet into a Cintiq alternative. Which iPad Pro you have? Surely the 16gb of ram model of the M2 can push Nomad sculpt pretty far. But I get that getting a Zbrush user to like Nomad must be like getting a Photoshop user to praise Procreate 😅

[@DEPICTIONILLUSTRATION]

I wonder how MacOS handles the pen/drawing. The setup portion of the video shows a Mac, but all the drawing/testing was on Windows?

[@hackareslacksbruh430]

So when are you going to review the Kanvas pro 19 or 27?

[@mikewade99]

This is the review that I am anxious to see👍🏾🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔.

[@grinnazeed]

Can you do an Oppo Pad Air review? That has a pen.

[@ipaintu]

I'm still using the Samsung tab s7, and I do all my digital art on it, and it still works well.

[@BlueFlare]

Do you have any recommendations of a portable monitor like this with better drawing capabilities?

[@MAXp0wr]

Does this have any antireflective treatment (without the screen protector)?

[@grahamshellswell]

Hey Brad, great video as always. Just wondering if you’ve come across the Alogic touch monitors? It says it’s stylus compatible (and they do sell stylus’ too) so I’m wondering what that’s like for creative professionals. It looks like it could be a really great solution when combined with their Clarity fold stand, as it would suit both regular computer activities as well as a more comfortable pen based workflow without the need for an additional device (maybe a shortcut keyboard). I’d love to know your thoughts or even see a review.

[@trashtbyghosts]

i tested this and unfortunately its very half baked for drawing :/

[@grahamshellswell]

@@trashtbyghosts thanks for the heads up. That’s a shame, could be a really good solution. Their advertising on it is really strange too. Shows people paying a pen on it when it’s in a vertical position. no one would seriously use it like that I think.

[@trashtbyghosts]

@@grahamshellswell i should have said, i tested it on mac - it may still be ok for windows! but yeah on mac it was bad enough that i immediately boxed it right back up and returned...

[@pixelpusher1393]

@@trashtbyghosts Can you elaborate? What is the main problem - also line wobble, etc?

[@mashley444]

You do the best reviews, thank you.

[@audx2338]

The overall form factor is smaller than any 15.6" or 16" tablet I've seen despite a bigger display. I hope more graphics tablet brands try this design (or this brand improves the drawing part!)

[@Planthier76]

So bad for the pen. Can we use an other one on this ?

[@don-dori]

Making waves in the industry takes hard work and dedication. Pen display manufacturers do it effortlessly!

[@RiskiMcArif]

hi there. Please Review Huewei Matepad Pro 13.2 I really enjoy your video and looking for your experience drawing on this tablet. They said it's an ipad killer android tablet. Thank you in advance

[@JerryOhh]

Hi Sir, I want to suggest for product review. Have you tried a Lenovo Think vision M14t and can you share with us what your experience or say using that Lenovo product. I am planning to invest that portable monitor but I don't know if recommend for digital draw or creation.

[@michaeldyer6378]

Have you managed to get hold of the new Clarity Max Touch 32" UHD 4K Monitor? This looks like an ideal alternative to the Apple pro display as it has touch and pen functionality.

[@gmcubed]

I thought I heard it doesn't have pressure sensitivity, is that true? Because if it is, it sounds useless. I have the non touch version though, I can't say I recommend it. The backlight bleed is just insane.

[@supersnail5000]

I wonder if some of the wobble is induced by the magnets for the stand?

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

Would be interesting to learn if it’s not possible to fix it one way or another, it seem like a pretty huge oversight from Espresso since they advertised it for artists and already had experience with pencils. Could maybe ask them directly.

[@jamesbullo]

When doing screen protectors having worked in cellphone shops. The wet method vs dry method is more forgiving.

[@mehmetfatihbicakci]

You should lock the focus on the screen Brad for future videos. Autofocus is coming and going constantly :)

[@S0ul_]

Looks like a driver problem My huion does those lines on Sai2 but only on that app

[@dibujemaestro]

I don’t understand. Approximately ten years and yet they can’t do a pencil that can draw a solid diagonal line? What is the amazing technology that makes an iPad the only device were to draw it well? Even Wacom is not that perfect…. I wish I could be more free to choose…and save some money.

[@bromanart9359]

Awesome review brad, just wondering if you tried the Alogic clarity Max graphic display. Quite intrigued to know what your thoughts around it would be.

[@gruckusgrackus5815]

Hope you get your Huion Kamvas 19 pro soon, all these new art tablet products have seemed like absolute hot garbage for a long time now. Be nice to see something redeem itself. The website says they ship in early February. If it's any good it would be a huge upgrade for me personally, especially if touch works.

[@BabyBunny-Cottontail]

Good review. I was thinking of getting this

[@JackRabbit72380]

the pen is bad because the display is only 60hrz you need 120hrz for proper smooth pen input. as for the pen it self how good it is would depend on the levels of pressure sensitivity. your going to want at least 256 levels.

[@Draconius1000]

I am maybe idiot, but Amazon fire Max is it possible to drawing on that. Amazon still not answer that question

[@SimonBauer7]

yes, it supports a usi pen, not sure how good that one is idk.

[@Draconius1000]

@@SimonBauer7 it's look like I found a cheaper solution, but not sure yet Simbans PicassoTab XL Drawing Tablet Atleast I am sure it's made for painting

[@taupangnang1245]

Nice video, as always...anyway brad, do you had some interest to test OneXPlayer X1, its a handheld gaming device, but it has a same approach as microsoft surface pro, a tablet with windows OS, but has some fiture as like stylus pen etc..very curious if this device can be used as a main drawing tools/computer 🤣🤣🤣

[@kuya_bino]

HUAWEI MATEPAD 11 PAPERMATTE EDITION PLEASE! You have to review it🙏

[@Rebelnightwolfe]

I still call WPP N-Trig.

[@robertdufour2456]

Amazing

[@Ricer-b4n]

If this unit was a 17" Android tablet, it'll be awesome. It's main problem is that its only a monitor at an overly steep price that's sized too small. It doesn't offer any advantage over 16" penable laptops from samsung, LG, HP. Lenovo etc etc. 4k is overkill for this size, 2.5k is plenty good. For similar money, you can easily find a great laptop that uses the same microsoft pentech. The microsost laptop 4 or 5 comes to mind. Or grab an ipad pro 12.9. Superior AP choices and pen tech. This stand alone unit will be DOA just like all those tiny 12-16" drawing monitors from wacom, huion, Xpen. The drawing experience from these monitors ain't all that to justify hauling around extra cords.

[@BallDestroyer3000]

Great review, I appreciate the honesty! This is an automatic skip for sure. The Asus one is much much better

[@trenton9]

At this price-point, there is no excuse for such a bad pen experience.

[@tdata545]

That's not a good pen. I mean I love it since it's cheap, and is my go to MPP 2.0 pen of choice but it's not actually great. Also you have to shake to wake it, which I constantly forget.

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

The espresso pen you mean? Or the other one.

[@tdata545]

@@TheGuraGuraMan The espresso pen. I recognized it by its more generic name, MetaPen.

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

@@tdata545 It costs 100€, wouldn’t call that cheap lol. The Apple Pencil is barely more costly than that and yet is perfec quality wise. Is there an equivalent compatible with the Espresso pro 17? Or better forget about the idea of using it with a pencil for professional work?

[@tdata545]

@@TheGuraGuraMan THERE IS NO REASON FOR IT TO. Since it's only $40 USD, and I know for a fact it's the same pencil. Theirs isn't any special. Since the one I mentioned also has tilt and eraser. Though the problem with the eraser is that it doesn't really depress meaning there's no tactile feel to it. Where like on EMR options from WACOM using the INTOUS ONE tech, formally BAMBOO... that's a spring loaded end that depresses. On the pens that have that feature, usually third party. AMAZON'S Scribe pro pen has the best I've felt. I only have about 30 different EMR pens, 20 different MPP 2.0s, 10 AES, and 4 Apple pencils. So, I know my tech.

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

@@tdata545 over 50 pencils is quite a huge amount lmao. So are the best pencils among those actually decent on the Espresso display pro? Or is it better to just look elsewhere. Currently I’m using the XpPen 16 2nd gen, it works well but I’ve been wanting an equivalent that can use finger touch, hence my interest in espresso’s monitor.

[@pzark3638]

How you gonna call something a monitor review without any brightness, contrast, or color readings?

[@sadev101]

looks like an awesome screen. but with smooth glass and that pen its not for artists. its missing the point. they should decide do we go for artist or not, else you paying more for not top stuff... id rather get a xp pen or huion 13 or 15 inch pendisplay they are portable enough.. but also have the matte screen for drawing

[@michaelp.6511]

That stand looks cheap

[@SimonBauer7]

that wobble is BAD. like wtf. like a normal non slim pen 2 surface pro is better. my lenovo tab p11 plus is a lot better. holy hell.

[@nabukuma]

Nah, iPad Pro

[@hugo9618]

too expensive

[@piusdoe8984]

Yah.. for artists waste of time. Still more effort than Huions tablet

[@Thanatos--]

Thanks for the video, but definitely not the product for me.

[@scribblingjoe]

Nope

[@benjamina6915]

A huge waste of money, that's all I can say about it.

[@MOS.labels]

Can you please try the sonar pen on ipad air 1, if it works, have palm rejection, especially on goodnotes app. Badly need a pen for studying and taking notes right now. Thank you

[@SimonBauer7]

yes it works, the palm rejection is hit or miss, the issue is that it still is a generic pen at its core. sorry. there are however some cheaper android tablets like the lenovo m10 plus gen 3, or the m11 (that one actually comes with all you need including the pen) you could buy if you want a new tablet anyways. these have proper pen support.

[@MOS.labels]

@@SimonBauer7 okay thank you. I already have the ipad air 1 that was given to me a few years ago, and I’ve been looking at the sonar pen for note taking. I was just not sure if it had palm rejection using the goodnotes app, since my device is old and doesnt have the hardware to support palm rejection, much less an apple pencil. But thank you for the suggestion, i will look into it.

[@nineteen90niny]

yikes-...

[@YeahRightMCD]

Do they know that iPads are portable? What kind of delusional person could validate using that thing?

[@_Digitalguy]

totally different devices, this is a portable monitor first and formost, and much bigger than any iPad

[@FlameForgedSoul]

Overpriced and undertuned.

[@V.XIII_Ultra]

I don’t understand why you’d get this over an iPad

[@TheGuraGuraMan]

Ipad is excellent at what it can do but the advantage of such a monitor is that it can be used for windows. It’s a different use for different scenarios.

[@_Digitalguy]

totally different devices, this is a portable monitor first and formost, and much bigger than any iPad

[@pixelpusher1393]

Was really curious about this display, but this massive line wobble it´s a complete no-go! Now I´m curious about your review of an Alogic display!

[@fablewalls]

It will be based on the same MPP crap.

[@pixelpusher1393]

​@@fablewalls Well, I asked them under one of their videos, and they replied it´s compatible with pens running on MPP 2.0 and higher. This (I hope...) leaves some room for the drawing experience to be better than with this Espresso display. If drawing on an Alogic display mirrors drawing on a Surface Laptop Studio, I would be interested. But I´ll wait for reviews by Brad Colbow, TeOh on Tech, and (hopefully) Michael Clarida.