Established Titles Are A SCAM?! - The OUTRAGE!

There has been a little commotion surrounding the relatively popular KZbin creator sponsor, Established Titles. People have started to think they might be a scam. My only problem is that it took people this long to figure it out!
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[@rwberger6]

Seriously, how did people believe this was real in the first place. It was the modern version of "buy a star".

[@TheSutanian]

Exactly! I described that as the catbox version of ET

[@candycanessongs]

I know right... unlike the intelligent Lunar rancher people like me who bought a whole acre of land on the Moon. I am so smat.

[@josephw.1463]

I was wondering if anyone here would be old enough to remember that...except they weren't even promising you would own the star. They'd just write down in a document that it was named after you (or your sweetheart) and then file it with _the United States Copyright Office!_ Totally legitimate...they could copyright what they pleased, pretty much.

[@crispybatman480]

That's not the scam part. No one thought that they were a lord, they thought they were donating to a legit charity(one tree planted) and getting a gag gift in return.

[@TaddiestMason]

My problem is that we know people are dumb enough to fall for this cause they fall for those Indian gift card scams all the time. Pushing this on people feels akin to pushing people towards a scam artist who knows they're taking advantage of people. Everyone is in one the scam except the people being scammed. That's why laws exist to protect dumb people from intelligent fraudsters who would scam them out of money. This is no different from stealing from old people who don't understand you don't need to go out and buy gift cards for Microsoft.

[@polarfamily6222]

I was legit thinking that it was a meme that people just kept repeating due to how ridiculous the concept was.

[@MrHawksrule95]

Right? Therez no way anyone actually believed this right??

[@jtjames79]

@@MrHawksrule95 Apparently so. All the people that are upset are just outing themselves as being on the wrong side of the bell curve. I use Jeremy's code to get it as a last minute gag gift for my parents for Christmas. I literally told my wife I was doing it because they sponsor my favorite KZbin channels and it was a funny joke. With their Christmas sale last year, a discount code, and I printed out the certificates myself, I paid way less than $200. It was like 50 or 60 bucks or something, for two "titles". I've spent more time, money, and effort than that making D&D handouts for my players.

[@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328]

@@MrHawksrule95 There are other companies that offer something similar, but they offer way better merch for the $$

[@thedripdrop9826]

See example: shadow raid legends.

[@TheDriedSnug]

I wonder how will the quartering will react, when he discover kamikoto knife are also a scam.🤔🧐

[@kvltovpersonality6290]

This was easily one of the best rants in all of Rekieta's career

[@OveropinionatedAzhat]

precisely what I was going to say!

[@michaelleitner1245]

It was priceless!!! I was laughing my ass off and thanking Nick for vocalizing my thoughts.

[@truthbetold444]

I don't agree at all. A lot of sponsors obviously did believe what the scammers were claiming and so did the purchasers. Yeah, people are gullible. So what?

[@jeffgill420]

@@truthbetold444 always read the fine print

[@aozorahaou2643]

@@truthbetold444 If you're stupid enough to fall for ANY scam without researching if it was legit you deserve to be swindled unless you're the elderly you don't deserve it unless you're a senior citizen

[@RoderickR07]

*_"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled" - Sarge_*

[@zapazap]

Sounds like Steve Lehto. :)

[@daquemasquieren]

@@zapazap you dont know the reference kid

[@zapazap]

@@daquemasquieren Other than it being a Sargeant, no. A film comedy I presume?

[@devildogkogg8353]

We've been smeckledorfed!

[@devildogkogg8353]

I liked the show of OP's quote and the guy who quoted it was my favorite character. Shame the company had a civil war over a voice actor

[@ogiejii7885]

In the 80's I worked for a guy the bought a SQ ft at a Tenn distillery tour. Once a year they mailed him profit sharing.....3or4 grains of corn. He showed it to everyone, it was hilarious and he loved it.

[@larrybud]

I mean, shit, at least send the guy a pint.

[@mr.mclibtard5015]

I was given an acre on the moon

[@Grognarthebarb]

That's amazing lol

[@justz00t48]

That is brilliant marketing!

[@Francois_Dupont]

corn? isnt beer made of malt or something?

[@AydinPaladin]

Thank GOD I'm not the only one who felt this way about the whole "scandal".

[@Doubie.]

They do the same thing with knight-ships in the UK

[@Basketballzrgay]

Practically had scam written on the front of it

[@noone8418]

I just thought, “The hell wants land in Scotland “?

[@Crim_Zen]

Nah, it was obvious... and pretty funny. The "lords" loved to gloat about their piece of paper. I actually have noble blood dating back over 700 years to Scotland and England. All honorary ties ended up getting cut after the War of The Roses... we were on the wrong side. That said, who in their right mind wants to be a lord? It's just bragging rights that you were born into a pampered inbred favoring system.

[@lowlandnobleman6746]

People who don’t mind perpetual winter, that’s who’d want land in Scotland.

[@G4M30V3R]

My 70 year old mom could tell it was a scam...that's how obvious it was.

[@txorimorea3869]

If people could tell what is an scam and what is not a scam the current financial system wouldn't exists at all.

[@Section_230]

@@txorimorea3869 Neither would you

[@JesusFriedChrist]

It’s not a scam. It’s a GAG GIFT.

[@digzgwentplayer4159]

I think the more stupid the scam the more effective it is. It filters out a lot of people who aren't stupid enough to buy this crap. haha

[@Section_230]

@@JesusFriedChrist Scam. When you present something as Real KNOWING it's not you're doing what's known as Defrauding people. Fraud is illegal. Hence calling this a scam. They should have SAID it's a gag gift in their ads, otherwise that's called false advertising and that's Fraud.

[@Lockon5500]

90% of things advertised by KZbinr(outside of their merch) are at varying levels scams period end of

[@Nareimooncatt]

End of... What? I feel like I was scammed by that comment.

[@williamjeffersonclinton69]

Even their "merch" is a scam. Substandard clothing companies and to have a stupid logo or design/quote from a youtuber. Wow you're so cool having a shirt from FPSRussia, Some dumb ass gamer, some dumb ass guy who reads memes on the internet, a goofball who opens boxes. These are clothing options that we all should strive to buy. 😆

[@IndreadColde]

Many KZbinrs have scam merch, shitty products drop shipped as cheaply as possible.

[@dawndarklight44]

I have yet to see someone play Raid Shadow legends.

[@faulkner146]

It’s more telling about the creators that are “surprised.” Because they knew it was a gimmick from the get go. And now pretending that they had no idea.

[@reverselee3218]

They are damage controlling

[@crispybatman480]

They all knew it was a gimmick gift. The part that people think is a scam is flying right over Nick's head, they claimed the proceeds of the gag gift were going to a legitimate charity(1 tree planted). The dude who made the video breaking the charity aspect of the scam touched on how outlandish the lordship thing is at the beginning of the video, and that is all anyone is focusing on now. It's unreasonable to think you can be a Scottish lord or lady for a few bucks. It is totally reasonable for gag gifts to be used to raise money for charity, it happens all the time.

[@mobiusone6994]

@@crispybatman480 Well the small issue is the charity point was fake, the CEO has pictures of them and their own employees with the charities planting trees internationally

[@crispybatman480]

@@mobiusone6994 I call bullshit on it, they claimed to be affiliated with 1 tree planted, and 1 tree planted never recieved money. Established titles planted the trees after the fact in damage control lol.

[@mobiusone6994]

@@crispybatman480 They planted the trees with every purchase with 1 tree planted, this is documented fact that goes back months, poor little Scotty was just such a shitty investigator he forgot how to Google fucking Instagram and twitter accounts fucking lmao

[@fifth1613]

The idea of there being a field somewhere in Scotland filled with small castles that fit inside one square foot amuses me immensely.

[@gringofett3944]

I woud legit buy a tiny castle in a field if they would give me a title.

[@aina3387]

😂😂😂 🪦

[@scienceofnoises]

"What is this, a manor for ANTS!?" - Derek Zoolander before stepping on it.

[@trishnjasperCarnivorePack]

When I told my friend in Scotland about Established Titles she nearly peed herself laughing and asked who believed it was real. I told her only peeps with half a brain cell.

[@Nossieuk]

As a scot, I just find it hilarious - although I'm sorry for people that thought they had something.

[@inxus9040]

Thing is, they might not have actually known. They're just that stupid.

[@peekatyou7315]

Title is an obvious novelty, but the CHARITY is real, they are cited by Trees for the future as planting over 2,000,000 trees

[@marquisbois990]

@@peekatyou7315 Thing is that charity says individuals can donate a tree for just 25 cents. ET say they donate 1 tree for each order. If you want to help trees, go direct! Worth noting too that they used to have more tree charities on their site, but one called them out and not it’s just trees for the future (legit) but says the corporate per tree rate is much MUCH lower than 25 cents…so ET probably donated 25k to get the logo.

[@peekatyou7315]

@@marquisbois990 that's fair, but getting people to donate direct is a lot harder than getting them to do it for a souveneir in return

[@MrUppertorso]

I love an excited Rekeita rant. He turns outrage into outrageous hilarity. (also, hurrah for the curses that slip through despite Nick's best efforts to catch them all lol)

[@simbry49]

Yeah Ryan the Editor needs to get fired again. . . . . . . . And then get rehired with a bonus.

[@vizikey]

"The next two-hundred people that order are guaranteed to have a plot near mine" was a phase I heard used in sponsor segments for this. That is literally just like "Order within the next twenty minutes and get..." from every infomercial up through the 2010s.

[@scienceofnoises]

You notice some people didn't grow up with infomercials rolling all day when you were home sick from school because if you did you'd recognise every one of those time-limit sales tactics they use. "Call now and get a soild gold knobgobbler for free worth $599.95"

[@Voodoofairy88]

It's no different than buying a star. 🤦‍♀️ It's been a "gag" gift since I was kid in the 80's...freshman year (88) 1 of my friend's got their dad one of these (probably not the same company name but it was the same gag)

[@misterdeplorable2088]

I graduated 88 and totally remember that......

[@wordforever117]

It is different from that. The land being bought in within nature reserves and it helps to protect the land from being built on. If 1000 people own a single field, it is a lot hard for that land to be bought by a construction company.

[@SteveFrench_420]

I just finished posting a comment saying the same thing just seconds before I saw your's. It's a gag gift for sure. Besides, even if it was "real" the US Constitution prohibits titles of nobility, making any "real" title as useful as a Established Titles title.

[@SteveFrench_420]

@@wordforever117 what's different? Buying land through Established Titles is different than naming a star? How so? They're both a gimmick, a gag gift. A 1000 Established Titles "land owners" would own 1000 sq ft. In reality, if I'm not mistaken, Established Titles would still own the land. Your "title" is more of an agreement that you can tend to it and call it yours but legally it's ET's. Like it is in England. You may hold a deed but at the end of the day, it belongs to King Charles.

[@herooftermina]

People believed they were legit?

[@abelbabel8484]

I just thought "Haha, neat party trick" and didn't ever spend another thought on it lol

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

There are many fools with money. However, it is worth noting that Established Titles also outright calls their titles "official" in advertising.

[@ChocolateHabanero22]

It was so obvious to me, but I don't know if others got it.

[@nobodiesaltbutmine6674]

They literally said it 59 times in the video

[@Sin_Alder]

I mean, it seemed like a scam to me, but many KZbinrs marketed and shilled for it, claiming it was entirely legitimate, so I could see naive people falling for it. My rule of thumb is that if a KZbinr is hocking something, it probably belongs in the trash AT BEST. That said, any KZbinrs that shilled for it should still be ashamed for taking that check to lie to their viewers. The people that bought into it may be guilty of being gullible, but the people that promoted it are guilty of being negligent, if not worse.

[@MrNorker77]

If anyone wonders if someone actually believed stuff like this is legit, hasn't been paying attention to all the stuff people believed that was told to us in the last 2 years.

[@yaelz6043]

Two years? You filthy optimist.

[@scepteredisle]

You're an idiot lol

[@peekatyou7315]

the CHARITY is real, they are cited by Trees for the future as planting over 2,000,000 trees

[@PAGrunt]

As PT Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute"

[@alexanderandrews6980]

It was obvious from the get go. If anything I'm irritated so many creators didn't care and just took the check.

[@david_4246]

If you think its a scam then don't buy it. Let them keep funding our favorite creators.

[@olejniczak12]

The biggest grift is to let them give money to your favorite creators, ane never buy their product. Nothing advertised on youtube is worth a shit anyways.

[@Section_230]

@@david_4246 Stupid

[@JesusFriedChrist]

It’s not a scam. It’s a GAG GIFT.

[@fleebogazeezig6642]

This ain’t the first time, anyone remember the BetterHelp fiasco from a couple years back?

[@somni2246]

When I was little I was really into wolves; not like...sexually...I just thought they were cool-- and I hate that I just felt the need to clarify that. ANYWAY, I liked wolves, and for many years of birthday and Christmas presents, I would get a piece of paper with a picture of and information about a wolf that a family member had "adopted" on my behalf. Even in my r3tard3d 8 year-old brain, I never once thought that I had actually adopted said wolf, and could show up to whichever wildlife conservation that held it and say "hello, I've come to collect my son": even at that age, I had the understanding that it was simply a ploy to get people to donate to the wildlife conservative, and the "adoption" papers were a cute gimmick to give as a gift. So, the entire outrage around Established Titles is just so manufactured and performative: I refuse to believe that the average person is this dumb.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Always assume the average person is dumb

[@BigBrotherMateyka]

That's the problem, though; they _are_ that dumb, and they vote.

[@michael-r4k]

"When I was little I was really into wolves; not like...sexually..." Yea, but... nobody asked? Seems like a weird clarification to offer up...

[@peanutty3632]

Thank you Ryan the editor for clipping that. Definitely one of Nick's better rants.

[@KdogPrime]

It was actually one of Nick's more idiotic rants. Why does he refer to it as a scam when their own website makes it clear exactly what you are paying for? There is no false pretense involved. Everyone who spends more than a minute on the site knows they are selling novelty titles for a charity.

[@peanutty3632]

@@KdogPrime I laughed so hard watching this clip and that's all that matters to me.

[@theepicduck6922]

Classic saying of its easy to have fools part with their money. Main thing I found weird about it is the advertising was quite dubious alongside the whole trying to pass off as a charity.

[@gleefulme9617]

Yeah, supposedly it was for reforestation of Scotland.

[@miker.9132]

@@gleefulme9617 It's not, they plant trees 'all over the world' apparently, and have an agreement with reserves to NOT alter the purchased land in any way. Meaning, from ET's own information, they do not plant trees in Scotland.

[@gleefulme9617]

@@miker.9132 An advertisement I heard said the trees were for Scotland. I laughed. Scotland was deforested thousands of years ago.

[@TheVodkaHaze]

As a Scotsman, the idea that you become a lord, laird or lady by owning land is laughable. And they sure wouldn't give that title to someone who owns one square foot of land.

[@ericpozarycki6601]

as long as I can have a star named after me, I think I can get through this.

[@booshmcfadden7638]

I thought about getting one of these for my niece just to make her ego bigger than it already is (she's 16). And of course the inevitable fights with her parents because SHE'S A SCOTTISH LAIRD.

[@ralcogaming7674]

That's what cracked me up my family is (technically) land owning nobility in Scotland we killed Macbeth you can figure it out. Except we didn't we took the last name when we inherited the land and holdings. We've been in contact with the clan and should my father and I do our blood tests to establish out lineage we will ACTUALLY be given the title of lord both of us, people ignored the important part of that it wasn't just land owners it was land owning nobility as in clans with ties to royalty, owning a tree doesn't make you a lord.

[@Victoria-ff5kk]

Interestingly, my family’s surname was outlawed and suppressed in Scotland.

[@ralcogaming7674]

@@Victoria-ff5kk are you a wallace!?

[@ralcogaming7674]

@KrellKrypto nope, for us it's more about helping them iron out the family tree, when we immigrated they lost track of alot of us. Which is even an issue with American records as I can't find any of the ancestor who actually immigrated the records start at his son.

[@Muck006]

@KrellKrypto Ego / prestige ... there are people in Austria with SIX doctor titles ... which is quite pointless, because spending decades in university to get titles means you didnt actually achieve something. "Being special" is a necessity ... and looking at how many blue-haired and non-assigned-at-birtth gendered people there are nowadays it is quite clear that this is very common. Back in the days it was punks or rock'n'roll people who were "different" ... there have always been people who want to SEEM more without actually doing the work to BE more.

[@ralcogaming7674]

@@carlavegas887 I have not but if they can dig out the records I may give it a shot. Best I can tell alot of them were either lost or not stored digitally yet

[@Blizz3112]

Literally the first thing I thought when I heard about "Established Titles", I was like, that smells like such a scam... XD

[@KazuhiraMiller46]

You will go far in life my friend 😎🥂

[@LoveThatPhantom]

Same

[@k1n63d]

No you didn't. I remember your first thought and it was "O I can be a legit Scotish Lord?!? Sign me up baby! This'll show that bitch ex of mine! Bwahahaha!"

[@nobodiesaltbutmine6674]

Sure you did

[@gleefulme9617]

It sounded like a waste of money for absolutely nothing.

[@Muck006]

Rackets standing up gives a far greater freedom for such rants and gesturing. Maybe he should do a comedy standup show called "Rackets Rants" ...

[@zackfool8931]

At least the liver king is still all natural...wait what?

[@asdion]

>it's fine as long as it gets us money >at first it was just crappy mobile games >then it was crap products that are overpriced >then it was blatantly obvious scams It is only a question of time till companies like Balenciaga go out to sponsor our dear youtubers.

[@actionjackson6943]

I can't print a royal title for less than a dollar. Did someone actually believe the tree thing made it legitimate?

[@Beavernator]

Yep... Height of woke climate policies in those countries... "We'll chop trees down for you, FOR CLOUT!!!" Ummm, PRESS "X" TO DOUBT...

[@ribowright]

EXACTLY how I felt when I saw the "It's a SCAM!!" KZbin videos. NO, REALLY? It's a dumb gag gift you don't have to buy. But I guess we have to have a moral panic about it.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

Can't wait for the expose on Sea Monkeys and the Neverending story.

[@connorjones1485]

They needed the next “current thing” so they could channel their outrage into feeling useful again.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@connorjones1485 it worked for them too.

[@TaddiestMason]

It's actually more like those Indian scammers who con old people into buying gift cards and giving them the codes. They are frauding people out of money just the same. Just because some people are smart enough to realize it's a scam, doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of people dumb and/or old enough to fall for it. Crazy how many callous people there are out there who don't understand or care that the average person is an idiot capable of falling for one scam or another and that's why we have laws to protect them from more intelligent people with no morals or scruples who would gleefully take advantage of the feeble minded. People who would happily do that are kinda sleazy scumbags and will likely rationalize their awful behavior in one way or another, but it doesn't change that they are awful people who take advantage of their fellow humans for personal gain even though they don't need to. It's a choice they make cause they can and want to.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@TaddiestMason no it is not. These people aren't being tricked into thinking they've been contacted by Microsoft and they have a virus, then pretending someone accidently transferred 10k into their bank using remote access, then claiming the only way they can give the money back is through gift cards. They bought an overpriced novelty gift. It's as much as a scam as doing a non-STEM degree lmao.

[@jtjames79]

It's a gag gift. Like an invisible dog or a pet rock. They also sponsor a whole bunch of my favorite KZbin content creators. That's what I was actually paying for when I got one for my parents as a joke because they're Scottish! I also got it on sale so I didn't spend 200 bucks. So I paid a guy like 60 bucks to lie to my parents, and that made them happy. Money well spent.

[@itogi]

ET added the text about the gag gift after the biggest expose video came out.

[@Muck006]

Tracey Emin - a british "artist" who once created a tent with all the names of the men she had slept with as an art piece - married a rock. In the times of "identifying as whatever means you ARE whatever" ... you dont even need a certificate from anyone, just print one yourself (and then put the paper in a washer or something else to "age" it).

[@marie.1111]

@@itogi No they didn't. I was on their site years ago and it's always been extremely clear about it being a novelty gift. Stop making sh1t up and/or believeing the other idiots online.

[@lylecoglianese1645]

@Forlarren, if it pleased your parents it was a good investment !! 🤗 😇

[@yaelz6043]

Funny but 60 still seems a bit steep for a gag.

[@laughingdaffodils5450]

So I actually watched the 20+minutes in question, and this was basically my reaction to the first 2/3rds. If you thought this was actually making you a laird you need to sue the school district you attended. The last point seemed substantial though - they seem to share AH's confusion regarding the word 'donate.' One might easily realize that the 'Laird' talk was puffery or novelty value only while still believing a portion of the proceeds was going to a good cause, rather than straight into a Hong Kong bank account.

[@seraphimdawn6846]

Coming here for RKs rant was worth it 💯 🤣👌

[@Mr.Unacceptable]

Look back to when they advertised on late night Canadian TV 10-12 years ago. They totally advertised it as a real thing as a loophole in the law. Until lawsuits and criminal charges were threatened. They keep changing the language just to skate by the legal system. Don't try to sell me that they are not trying to scam people.

[@KdogPrime]

That's because, as Adam points out, twelve years ago it was a loophole in the law. Then the law was changed in 2012 and now it's just a novelty, not anything legally binding.

[@AmoralPhat40oz]

I witnessed this live. it was glorious.

[@williamnichols8819]

It's like paying to "have a star named after you"

[@GR-pv5jx]

Reminds me of a part of a Tony Danza movie("Going Ape") where Tony's character uses a knife to carve off a sliver of wood from an old wooden desk and then glues it on a notecard and labels it with one of these two lines: "Piece of the Cross" or "Piece of Bambino's bat." He is selling these wood pieces through the mail in the newspaper want ads.

[@itogi]

Didn't ET promote itself as a genuine sertificate that made you a lord/lady? It became a gag gift only when the company got exposed!

[@MatthewsPersonal]

It's literally always been a gag gift. It's been obvious from the start tbh

[@Gannoh]

@@MatthewsPersonal just because it's been obvious doesn't mean it wasn't still an outright lie

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

@@MatthewsPersonal They never said it was a gag, they told everyone it was legit. Ran by the same company responsible for multiple other scams.

[@jtjames79]

There's a Wikipedia article explaining how Scottish lordship works. Are you the person that needs a warning label to not take a bath with your toaster?

[@MatthewsPersonal]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 I never saw anything saying it was legit legit. Looking at the documents, it's clear in the instructions they gave to influencers.

[@ThePhoneix999]

I demand for a rekieta rants playlist

[@MrMoparWagon]

I am glad no one else is in the work lunch room right now because i am laughing my ass off.

[@yaelz6043]

They can't hear you from where they are? Where is this break room, *Scotland?*

[@smgofdvld]

I want to be a lord or lady 👀... 🙄 this was a giant scam and lots of us called people out for it

[@cameronjames3499]

I think the best comparison is when Penny Arcade did a Kickstarter a decade or more ago. Their lowest tier was "we'll shout your name while we chase a duck" - obviously it was their whimsical way of saying that you wouldn't get anything for your donation. That is until Kickstarter told them that they'd promised it, so they had to deliver on that promise - which is why there's a 2-hour video of one of them walking slowly after some confused ducks for 2hours reading pages and pages of random usernames. IMO, that's why people feel "scammed" about the titles, they always knew it was BS, however they expected the company to at least just do the token gesture effort of upholding their end of the BS/fun-silliness. The whole thing just comes off as just a step too cynical.

[@Oznerock]

Okay that penny arcade stuff sounds like an absolute win for all parties involved

[@cameronjames3499]

@@Oznerock Yep, I looked it up again and it's pretty easy to find on youtube. It's of Gabe (Mike Krahulik) and it's on their pennyarcadeTV channel, though I was wrong about the 2hours. it's only 50minutes long. Though Im sure that's more than long enough for anyone's duck-chasing name-calling attention span.

[@michaelleitner1245]

Aw crap! This is almost as traumatic as when I took my pet rock to the vet. 😪

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Was it’s name Geode?

[@michaelleitner1245]

@@ComradeCommissarYuri Geo-rge 😂

[@futur3ndings651]

Care to guess it was a moss outbreak? I hope the rock got better either way.

[@michaelleitner1245]

@@futur3ndings651 Yep. Had to roll him 15min a day til it cleared up.

[@TimPortantno]

I saw an ad for this 4 years ago, thought it was funny but made bo sense, googled it. None of this was a secret...

[@RationalGaze216]

The fact that AJ from The Why Files was able to buy one in the name of his computer animated cartoon fish should have been the giveaway.

[@KdogPrime]

Indeed. If anyone actually took this seriously then they only have themselves to blame when their illusions were shattered.

[@GarthKlaus]

Unless you're doing it in full kilt w/bag pipes, I'll skip your ad. 🤪

[@codybaier]

This is beautiful because this is practically the exact thing going through my mind when I saw the whole Established Titles thing blow up.

[@Thrashifice]

I don't understand how anyone really thought they would be a "lord".

[@abelbabel8484]

The same way a different stamped paper can make you a doctor, I presume.

[@JaxMerrick]

Anyone who ever looked at older magazines and saw the ads for "own a star in space" or "own a square foot on the moon" should know that this was at the very least a gag gift along those lines. But then again, I seem to think I'm one of the few who actually remember those.

[@Zach0451]

Germy Hambone scamming his audience? Noooo wayyyyyyy

[@meme2287]

The point is that customers think they're buying some sort of title, however useless that title may be. What they're actually buying is a very small plot of souvenir land. There is no connection between the two, aside from what Established Titles heavily imply in their advertising. The customer can refer to themselves as a Lord or a Lady for free (or Emperor of Earth), so where's the requirement to pay $$$ to do so?

[@T3nch1]

Nick: *Is a lawyer.* Also Nick: *Uses Twitter.* ALSO NICK: "How do people not realize this is a scam!?" So steeped in stupid is he that dumb shall pluck on dumb.

[@wetincornwall6882]

Over here in the UK, we know its a gag gift. It's a novelty title attached to a souvenir plot. I think the most you can do with it, is get the prefix on driving licence, bank details, passport etc changed from Mr. to Lord. Now if say a restaurant hears "I'm Lord Cornwall..". and gives you a better seat.. well, its all good.

[@yaelz6043]

Wait it's actually viable for things like your license? That's better than expected.

[@Lowlightt]

@@yaelz6043 To be clear its a gag gift. It has no legal purpose or binding what so ever. However you at any point can legally add Lord or Lady to your name in legal documents ect. Its just something you can decide to do and its perfectly fine. So you don't have to buy it to be a lord or lady.

[@yaelz6043]

@@Lowlightt that's odd coming from a country that is obsessed with its royalty.

[@gordtron]

you mean, they're not registering each Lord or Lady in a huge quiltwork property of crammed trees each time? i thought this shit was forever!

[@gameragodzilla]

Honestly, I always thought Established Titles was a gag gift. It’s like the “Future President” shirt my parents bought me while we were visiting DC when I was a baby. Am I gonna become President? Nope. Does that mean my parents were scammed because the shirt promised them I’d be President when I clearly won’t be? Nope, because everyone recognized it was a joke. Of course, that does come down to how much Established Titles made it clear it was a gag and how much was them making it genuine. And the other thing is whether they made it look semi-genuine just to keep up appearances for the fun (like people pretending you’re an actual superhero or Jedi at a theme park) vs. maliciously trying to mislead people. Obfuscation to confuse people definitely is a genuine problem.

[@user-ii5im7zm2t]

It's LITERALLY a Chinese company.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

Established Titles is also Kamikoto Knives, just another Chinese scam group using YT as their main advertising platform.

[@Jamesmatise]

The "scam" part isn't about land ownership or being a "lord." It's because they're marketing it as preservation of Scottish woodland and tree planting. Only they outsource the tree planting and don't appear to have any actual woodlands in Scotland.

[@brandonn6099]

They own property in Scotland that appears to already be protected woodlands. Their tree planting appears to be through a legitimate company, but is also deceptive as it's not helping woodlands in Scotland. You'd be far better off just donating to a team trees sort of thing.

[@NikovK]

Its a gag gift. Its obviously a gag gift. Its something we'd have given my grandfather and he'd have laughed and stuck it next to all his Scottish heritage memorabilia.

[@NeuroSpiceAbee]

The website literally says it's not real, but it's for helping preserve the castle. "The intention of these packs is to provide a fun, novelty product for those who want to purchase something a little different for themselves, friends and family, all while simultaneously preserving and protecting woodland in Scotland."

[@johndough8115]

The scam, is that they were likely never buying the land for protection sake, as they claimed. Unless you can verify otherwise.. and guarantee that they will never use the land for anything industrious... then its basically assumed to be a complete and utter pocket robbing scam. That said, there is nothing wrong with cutting down and using trees for wood... so long as you are planting them, and allowing for growth, at the same rate of usage.

[@ladrok97]

It's from updated page. After one youtuber made video "established titles is a scam" which bombed. So they added some info that it's suverine plot, that isn't real etc. Before they didin't even posted info that they pay "plant a tree" to plant promised tree

[@Francois_Dupont]

this video is sponsorized by *KAMIKOTO KNIFES*

[@Hollyweeds]

They did advertise people could change their ID which makes its seem way more legit. Still stupid but misleading.

[@Lowlightt]

They can change there ID's. You right now can go change your ID to include Lord or Lady. You don't need to buy anything you can go have it change to include Lord or Lady.

[@KdogPrime]

@@Lowlightt But the gag is that you can present your certificate to anyone who asks you to prove it.

[@pyramydseven]

Definitely the best rant ever. $20K is $20K though.

[@lobotomite9767]

Paid 50$ for a couples pack for me and my wife when it was on "sale". Obviously just a gag gift and if it was full price it would never have been worth the laugh to do it

[@yamo511]

How was your trip to Jamaica?

[@crispybatman480]

That's not the point. No one thought they were a lord. What they thought was they were donating to charity and getting a gag gift too. That is the scam part. This flew straight over Nick's head after watching the intro saying "obviously the lordship thing isn't real", people thought the money was going to 1 tree planted. Gag gifts to raise money for charity are common.

[@KdogPrime]

Exactly. It's just a way to solicit donations, like a bachelor auction. Also, One Tree Planted has confirmed that Established Titles does donate to their charity for the purpose of planting trees. However, no one is saying exactly how much out of those $200 purchases is actually going to One Tree Planted. If people wanted to see their money fully go towards charity, they could just donate that $200 directly to One Tree Planted instead.

[@AbleistSL]

The issue was that this scam falsely claimed people owned a teeny tiny piece of land and that they could legally call themselves a lord as a result despite obviously not being a real one. This is what angered people.

[@InsideJobUSSS]

"Don't take that tone with me my good man. We are here to view the tapestries."

[@Draconisrex1]

My grandmother was a Campbell. You go back far enough and I'm a cousin & descendant of Robert the Bruce (one marrying his sister and another marrying one his grandaughters) and the current King Charles by marriage (Queen Victoria and House of Stewart) descent. MEANS NOTHING. Daughters of younger sons of younger sons of younger sons don't inherit. I do find it funny and tell people that if enough people die (hundreds of thousands, possibly more than a million) I could be King of England...

[@blasterbrain1443]

Maybe Established Titles is a scam, but you *CAN* buy the title “Lord” for real. There’s a company out of Dugan’s Hole that’s legit.

[@slipperysteve8]

I can give you the title Lord for real as well. 4 easy payments of $29.95 and you will be a Lord. I am legit, pro.ise

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

@@slipperysteve8 $29.95? A clear ripoff. For just £12.50 plus I can send a certificate proving you are a lord (or lady...or hell, the King himself!)

[@JesusFriedChrist]

It’s not a scam. It’s a gag gift. Always was.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

That's the exact same gag gift lmfao.

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

Gave me a chuckle! 😂

[@AliRadicali]

To be fair, the UK has a metric ton of weird archaic laws that are technically still on the books but overlooked or overruled in practice. The scam works because it's not out of the realm of possibility that owning a foot of land would entitle you to some completely meaningless title. And I suppose the other reason it works is people's misguided faith in official-looking forms and documents. Even if it were true that owning a foot of land made you a Scottish Laird, unless you live in Scotland you'd still be paying for a fancy piece of paper. You can call yourself a lord, with or without an official deed; people will just consider you a weirdo for it.

[@Muck006]

Come on ... anyone who thinks this is "not out of the realm of possibility" has no clue about NOBILITY ... and how titles work.

[@AliRadicali]

@@Muck006 The title in question refers to land ownership, not nobility. Obviously the whole point of the scam is to blur that line and make other people assume you're some sort of noble, but even the ads make it quite clear that calling yourself a lord because you bought a foot of land is a bit of legalistic pedantry. They're not selling membership to the aristocracy.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@AliRadicali yeah we all know buying a peerage in the UK costs a lot more lmao

[@ObviousRises]

Holy shit, Rekieta you sounded like a Rick and Morty episode. You should do voice acting. 😆

[@gottesurteil3201]

I was under the impression that it was just a gag gift. Didn't realize people took it so seriously.

[@mikeholmanlovesyou]

the average person that WOULD purchase the title also believe that the Quartering is good quality content.

[@nobodiesaltbutmine6674]

What have you provided other than this stupid sperg out

[@mikeholmanlovesyou]

@@nobodiesaltbutmine6674 Are you upset that nobody has to call you "Lord" now? It's ok that you got tricked by Jeremy. We wont make fun.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

underrated comment

[@misterjoker5150]

I think while nick is right about how ridiculous this scam was, yet I still think he’s covering for quarter pounder selling this crap like an idiot to the shared community. Pounder had no idea he’s not that swift, and if he didn’t he didn’t give a fk about his audience. But either way ppl gotta b smarter

[@Dragon359]

Good luck on the last part there. XD I don't see that happening anytime soon given how things have been going in the US and rest of the world for that matter.

[@jawnsushi]

People actually thought they were legit?

[@HalcyonDaze33]

I don’t care I’m gonna call myself archduke Ferdinand and I dare them to challenge it

[@BowsettesFury]

Just like that thing way back where you could purchase the right to name a star after anything you want. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fredbloggs5902]

They openly state on their website that you don’t actually own any land or get a legitimate title. It’s just a bit of fun, typically bought by a friend or relative as a joke.

[@Primetime9292]

Yeah for 200$. It was a scam

[@Alex_Fahey]

@Primetime 99 No, that just means their customers are brain-dead and paid for a gag gift that was a hundred times more expensive than the competition. This a "scam" of the same caliber as Apple phones or Fiji water.

[@ladrok97]

Yeah, stated so after drama begun. Check video about it or use way back machine

[@voraciousblackstn]

THANK YOU! It was so flipping obvious.

[@conductorcammon]

I lost EVERYTHING!

[@GeoffInfield]

Hey they've addressed your "concerns" on their website - "It has come to our attention that extremely talented creators who have helped us spread the word about Established Titles have become unfairly under fire". Really? I hadn't noticed.

[@geistxx]

I bought one for sixty bucks last year as a birthday gift for my sister. It made her chuckle, and that's what it's all about. It's a novelty, a spot of fun, just like the "International Star Registry". Anyone who's upset shouldn't be mad it's a sham, but mad that they were stupid enough to actually take it seriously in the first place.

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

So why didn’t you just print it out yourself if it’s just “a spot of fun?” Why did you pay 60 bucks for it? You got deceived.

[@calebwatkins4341]

I knew it was a scam and bought it on sale for $49 for my dad, because it's a gag gift, and it's funny and I regret nothing.

[@GermanNightmare1976]

I'm so happy you brought up Laphroig's handing out land to their customers. But what's better is that when you go visit the distillery, THEY will pay you a lease in form of a little sample bottle so that they may continue using "your" plot of land to produce their fine, fine product.

[@jeffhreid]

Selling something under false pretenses is fraud. Clearly this wasn’t legit but they purported that it was legit.

[@richardsabino2961]

I've got a bridge to sell you. Brooklyn Bridge, great price. All my friends love me, great deal. You send me 100K via paypal and I'll mail you the deed. Deal?

[@blacksabre5343]

I could've sworn it was like buying a star lol.

[@Rathial]

literally the first thing I thought of when I saw the ads

[@PhazonEnder]

I've been saying that since day 1, and people called me an idiot and a liar.

[@chemtrailmix3679]

Based Pipkin Pippa called out established titles, raycon, raid shadow legends, ridge wallet and a whole bunch of other sponsors for being scams.

[@vb6548]

I bought 10 square feet for my brotherinlaw and sister, 120 bucks at 85% discount, I thought it was real, but they returned the money so I feel less stupid

[@mitchelloates9406]

Adam Crigler was correct that the UK actually changed the law, to say that estates couldn't sell ACTUAL titles to square foot parcels of their land - one estate actually tried that, to try and stay afloat financially - and thus let people LEGALLY claim the title of Lord or Lady - but that they could sell SOUVENIR titles - ie, tourist novelty gifts - that didn't have any legal standing. And from what I've heard, it actually says on the ET website, that their certificate is a souvenir title, a novelty gift, and doesn't have any legal standing. It's not any different than walking into a Spencer's novelty gift store, and buying a spray can of "Professor Hale's BS Repellent", which was nothing more than a spray can of pressurized water.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

You mean that those World's Best Dad mugs aren't legitimate certification that you're the World's best dad?

[@Xarx3s]

Never underestimate people, including their capacity for stupidity. Seriously though, it's obviously a gag gift.

[@ChaoticHoly]

To everyone who allowed themselves to be sponsored by Established Titles, and you believed that it was a scam in any way, "then why did you accept their money." That just opens you up to being included in a class action lawsuit.

[@Altares_V]

literally no one is suing anyone over this matter. Imagine the small amount of people who gives a damn. Do you know the settlement would only award like what 2 -10 bucks to all the participants for potential YEARS of litigation for an obvious scam for anyone with a frontal lobe. Snake oil salesman rarely get sued and it is even harder to actually bring one against them.

[@rupertmiller9690]

It's hilarious anyone thought it was anything other than a pet rock. I knew it was a gag gift and am not mad at all. Kamikoto however, that's a straight up scam I've been calling out for ages.

[@ScorpionP2C]

Where can I find this stream?

[@Cass-es5kl]

Grift it well. You could do a great commercial. Love it. Emily Baker talked about this and said the same thing. Just like buying a star means you own that star.

[@DrinkYourNailPolish]

I bought it as a gag gift for my goddaughter. She shares a birthday with George Washington and because I'm a fan of irony and it is an opportunity to annoy my husband, I went for it. Plus it was on sale at the time. MONEY WELL SPENT 🤣

[@ChaoticHoly]

The problem with this Established Titles BS is that everything up-front makes the paying sucke...err..."customer" believe that not only are they buying a bit of land in Scotland, but it allows them to be called, "Lord" or whatnot. You have to dig DEEP into the fine print to learn that, not only can you NOT call yourself a "Lord" as Scottish law specifically prohibits this when purchasing such small amounts of land (which you have to learn by cross-referencing actual Scottish law), but you're not even buying land in the first place. *You're spending $50 - $200+ for them to **_MAYBE_** plant a tree on a plot of land they allegedly own.* Oh, and for the piece of paper. Than you could print yourself & frame yourself. For under $5.

[@OutlawTwo]

I mean, it wasn't really a scam since they were pretty clear. It's "based on" and "you can legally change your name on documents", yeah you could have done that without it. It even states it's a novelty gift... now the real "scandal" was all the other businesses associated. That was far more interesting.

[@Ebola419]

Its not the lordship. Its the fact they arent planting the trees. Yes, it was obviously a scam from the outright, but at least the gag gift was supposed to aid in tree planting.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

They are plating the trees though. It says so on Trees for the Futures website, a registered US non-profit that's been active for over 30 years.

[@SnoutBaron]

The Quartering literally said he knew it was a scam a few months ago on his podcast. I wonder if there's a law for knowingly being part of a scam.

[@DIEGhostfish]

If he thinks everyonenin the audience knows it too that's different.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

It's not legally a "scam" though.

[@SnoutBaron]

@@DIEGhostfish except that if you go and look at the replies to his video. People are pissed that Jeremy put out the ads as serious ad reads while knowing it was a scam. So no, his audience didn't know. It doesn't matter if Jeremy thought his audience knew. If that were a defence, that Theranos chick would t be in jail rn.

[@SnoutBaron]

@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer definition: A scam is a deceptive scheme or trick used to cheat someone out of something, especially money. At no point does Established Titles say they're a parody. They're expecting gullible people to believe their product. It's a scam.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@SnoutBaron it's not a parody. The website has been open and honest about what it is and does for years. The only deceptive part is that you can officially call yourself a laird or lady regardless lmao.

[@jonathanxero]

From my understanding it's not a scam, there was a possible argument to make about being mislead, but none of the info was hidden, all available on website, plus the company has acted w the utmost integrity allowing contracts to be ended premature and for anyone uncomfortable to get refunds. Seems like a case where they were potentially defamed and everyone dog-piled. Scam/gag, like pledge and donating. Edit: was a legendary Rekieta rant.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

yes, the KZbinr plagurised the hit piece from a blog, then name dropped a load of big KZbinrs to gain traction. They couldn't even "find evidence" about the trees, even though all that would have taken was a two second Google search for the charity lol.