Ethical Diamond Business STUNS the Dragons 😱💍💎 | Dragons' Den - BBC

[@anovosedlik]

Sara is top notch. SHE is the diamond!

[@blairseo1]

Fully agreed.

[@ceterisparibus8966]

​@@blairseo1Same. Totally.

[@moshkin1317]

Feel sorry for Sara she gave them what they asked for and they gave her the middle finger in return

[@derykhawkins2199]

Sara was magnanimous in defeat. Top class.

[@jamieboulton1705]

She was, but you could see how tough it was for her.

[@Smonnie13]

She always is!

[@Idkchangethislater]

I was flabbergasted made pikachu face for 10 minutes

[@Katie-xl8ep]

I feel so bad for Sara :( She’s one of my favourites but no one seems to respect her and the fortunes she made for herself. Will also add - I LOVE Steven, but it doesn’t stop me feeling sad at how many times I see Sara rejected or entrepreneurs will take a less ‘valuable’ offer.

[@amuthanshan]

People do respect Sara but you may not be aware that Sara's own business interests since covid have been going through some turbulent times and I wouldn't be surprised if she quits the show to focus on them.

[@Katie-xl8ep]

@@amuthanshan ah that’s interesting to know, thanks

[@thedappercook]

Its just a TV show, some of it predicated, some of it random. I wouldnt get too upset

[@thedappercook]

@@amuthanshan please back this up with any relevant links or searches please

[@amuthanshan]

​@@thedappercook search sara davies 1 million in the red

[@srivathsonsam406]

Peter : " You just invested in a diamond business that isn't a diamond " 😂😂😂

[@B.D.F.]

The funniest part is that it is a diamond.

[@thabomphuthi9739]

Did he say the founders are real diamond, that's why invested. What about customers😅

[@andycole007]

cubic zirconia

[@Waddabouchi]

Absolutely not cubic zirconia. Completely different properties. EXACTLY the same as mined diamonds❤❤​@@andycole007

[@SirJonathonDanielGregorySrVthe]

@@andycole007 Cubic zirconia is basically a glass. These are manufactured diamonds. It's the same as a diamond, only made in a lab.

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

Can dragons go to the wall?

[@BG-ef8sk]

Should never have agreed to 3% terrible deal

[@alsauba]

At least for the first time. It is obvious that Steven is the most loved dragon. Well done @steven

[@ravd8082]

Steven should of stuck with 5% not 3%

[@stealthattack2209]

I think there was an episode with Duncan where he did just that. Can't remember who the other dragon was... maybe that Pakistani guy

[@Khonnell66]

​@@stealthattack2209 James Khan

[@antonellaluque4532]

Seems they are only there for publicity

[@VictorVonDoom.]

*they’re

[@neillchippett655]

They are. Well spotted Sir.@@VictorVonDoom.

[@davidclark5351]

like most of the pitches then lol.....

[@deanmatters5739]

Yeah that’s the whole point isn’t it?

[@antonellaluque4532]

@@VictorVonDoom. you got no life

[@mary_syl]

In every other pitch ever, a valuation like that would be shred to bits.....

[@billyjesus5442]

couple of freemasons i think.

[@anwulika.o]

I’ve been following Kimai since last year and absolutely love their jewellery. As a young African woman, I am completely disillusioned with the traditional diamond industry so finding out that brands like Kimai exist with lab grown diamonds was very exciting

[@liberalkarma5972]

They talk Sustainblity but they don’t follow it. They use Chinese made HPHT stones which are produced with electricity produced from coal, and those stones are then polished in some sweat shops in India. It’s just a marketing gimmick Sustainblity

[@andycole007]

cubic zirconia

[@aidankelly840]

Sara should be called Lady Sara Like the late lady Di.. She just a queen. Inside and out ❤

[@Suzyfromtheblock]

❤ absolutely a very lovely cultured lady❤️

[@JohnSmith-jn9hu]

Is it just me or does it feel like ever since Steven became a dragon, he’s been the most wanted dragon on average, even more so than Peter?

[@edward9643]

He isn't greedy like Peter is

[@leeevans9654]

@@edward9643 I think that Peter is the number one preferred dragon most of the time.

[@MLife1972]

He also seems to get the most screen time too. Touka's been relegated to 'OK. I'll tell you where I'm at..'

[@leeevans9654]

@@MLife1972 Touka makes me laugh when he says that wouldn't get out of bed for 1%.

[@thevalkyrie8]

He has the youth market because of his you tube channel… young people look up to him as a role model… and he is a good role model on the surface but I personally do not agree with his ethics

[@ArvidOlson]

Stone cold, kind of heartless but amazing negotiation. Just a hard no and a carrot for Steven's ego. I love it.

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[@jefrichan]

Sarah has beautiful personality.

[@hamza361]

This is highest dragons den offer since Theo offered 250k for zapper in 2012, so 12 years ago!

[@binners7872]

250k for 3% WHAT?!?! noooooo

[@ravd8082]

no profit for 5 years next year 500k profit😂😂

[@LaLuz01]

Steven look into my eyes? Unreal 😅😅😅

[@ecddanieldce6753]

Steven wouldn’t have invested if they didn’t massage his ego by saying they came for him

[@RickSmall-b9r]

this is so untrue and an unfair commentary. all of the dragons have an ego

[@MJ-YT-USR]

The value of diamonds and gold is driven by scarcity. As soon as scarcity is removed, particularly with manufacturing, you actually de-value the very thing you've sought to make money from. Lab produced diamond will eventually destroy the diamond market,; unless ironically a monopoly of sorts is permitted which will over charge for the product - and then your back to an ethical problem.

[@Hedning1390]

Diamond is so beautiful and useful that cheaper lab diamonds will only increase demand, so you can make even more money by selling more even though each carat sells for less. Imagine all the things that could be improved with diamond that aren't diamond today because of the cost. The potential market is massive, so it will always be profitable even if the margins shrink to almost 0. If lab grown diamonds destroy the mining market that's a good thing.

[@johnflynn5044]

250K for 3 percent... Lordy that was brave but the girls presenting were faultless, clearly very sharp and more to the point, decent and ethical .. Im glad theres still a value placed on that in some places

[@vb3287]

Watched this last night with husband and both of us were shocked at the lack of relevant questions, something very fishy, from now on we won’t take the Dragons seriously. 1-The rings they handed out were £16,000 and others around £6000, but no questions as to how they put this value on them. 2-No questions about how long to produce them and the process and quantity they produce with time scale 3- no questions about how jewellers are valuing them in comparison to mined diamonds, and whether they will be selling them alongside mined diamonds and crucially, will they be honest about them being manufactured and not mined 4- no questions as to whether these would devalue mined diamonds if the manufactured ones flood the market, and in turn theirs would be devalued 5- using Meghan Markle as an example of someone wearing them is ridiculous as she will take anything offered, notice they didn’t say she bought or paid full price, and on a personal level, anything with her name attached is a turn off for me, I will not buy anything that she endorses or wears 6- sounds a bit like the way pearls are sold, am I right in thinking that jewellery must say if they are fresh water or cultured pearls, so I would expect to be told if these are manufactured, and I would expect there to be a big price difference, meaning that I would expect these to be far cheaper 7- something didn’t add up to us, when they were only with give 3% of the business for £250000, and Steven agreed that No longer trust this programme, won’t bother watching anymore, their credibility is shot down

[@netcalis]

This has been explained many times. The interactions between the "dragons" and the entrepreneurs take 2-3 hours. The 10 mins you see on the show is only an extract.

[@tumbi97]

@@netcalis I can't say for sure but there's no way the dragons have 2-3 hours with each entrepreneur. They'd only get through 3 per session

[@NN-jd5ul]

Vast quantities of money at stake here each entrepreneur will definitely be filmed and questioned for much more than 10 minutes

[@RickSmall-b9r]

the women came into the den with a specific dragon in mind and despite sara offering up exactly what was asked she was not the intended target. good on the girls for sticking to their guns

[@Legitti]

We didn't know where the diamonds came from so we decided to make our own fakes 😂😂

[@tedcrilly46]

Not fake though. No, not cubic zirconia.

[@andycole007]

cubic zirconia

[@henwilki6693]

They are not fake diamonds. They use technology to produce the same stone. Just without slave labour or raping the earth. Pretty ingenious really. Progressive. We aren’t apes dancing around shiny stones anymore. We understand much more about the planet and our own limited capacity. Genius

[@keithday3658]

@@andycole007 sorry to hear you didn't do chemistry at school

[@mlh4711]

they were asked what the difference is between lab diamonds and mined and they amswered they are identical......no difference. Lab diamonds are just cheaper. So how is anyone supposed to know if they're being pitched lab diamonds at Mined diamond price?

[@fuego5532]

Doesn't really make sense why anyone would even buy mined diamonds at this point too, hope that whole industry gets shut down.

[@dreadnoughtandcrow]

The difference is that natural diamonds have imperfections. A trained gemologist can spot this perfection in a lab diamond and know it is synthetic. So far as I'm aware, they have not come up with a way to create convincing synthetic imperfections.

[@edward9643]

I don't understand- the business has haemorrhaged mega bucks and after years of losses they finally turned a profit - how can they value the business at 6 plus million?

[@kingcecil7126]

Because it's a ROI that increased every year.

[@TONY_FEZ]

I thought they were very rude and disrespectful to Sara.

[@Sidecontrol1234]

yes

[@hamza361]

Business is business. They weren’t there to make friends. Did feel bad for Sara though.

[@kenjiwa5895]

@@hamza361 They were there for business, true, but politeness costs nothing, and you often see people's true nature in the way they treat people who can't further their interests. It cold be down to editing and bits not shown on-screen, but they seemed unnecessarily rude. In business, having poor people skills is not usually an asset. Steven may find himself treated the same if the deal goes through.

[@Idkchangethislater]

@@kenjiwa5895Please Sara will cry in her Rolls Royce 💀

[@kenjiwa5895]

@@Idkchangethislater It's not a question of crying nor is it about Sara. It's about character. Theirs is ill-mannered and entitled. From experience, I'd never do business with someone like that.

[@MikeGush.]

Ethics aside, They aren't identical, otherwise jewelers wouldn't be able to tell them apart from natural diamonds.. which they can. The slight flaws are what make real diamonds distinguishable.. these fake ones are without natural flaws. "Natural Diamonds have tiny amounts of nitrogen, while Lab Grown Diamonds have no nitrogen." They can change the dictionary definition of a diamond, however in my opinion, only a naturally formed diamond (in its amazing set of circumstances, made over millenia) holds the value..

[@RAXHITENDER]

What value? I mean of course they have value but why should they? They are just shiny rocks. Kind of so is gold. Platinum at least has uses in chemical reactions.

[@nisnga147]

@@RAXHITENDERclearly you are right and the entire financial market which sees gold as one of the safest investments for centuries is wrong hmm?

[@MikeGush.]

@@RAXHITENDER there is a finite amount of both diamonds and gold, they are hidden, deep within the earth and have taken thousands of years to form… they take an incredible amount of finding and work to retrieve.. that is a few reasons why they are more valuable than something that can be repeatedly made in a lab to spec….

[@indigoxalis]

I agree that something more rare should be more valuable-- but at what cost? I think the horrible human cost behind mining diamonds makes them worth less than humanely grown ones. Diamonds are overhyped anyways though lol

[@MikeGush.]

@@indigoxalis I agree with the ethical side of your point

[@Angela-mt8mq]

He just can’t think his head he had to think with his pants

[@laishrox]

@thedairyofaceo , Steven’s face when peters said he knows Cartier hahaha. Steven you crack me uppp.

[@evelynwashere13]

These ladies didn't come to olay. I admire them. I feel bad for Sarah, though

[@donaldjohn36]

Wow these ladies will go very far in the Jewellery industry and I pray they don’t make enemies on the way but they will be great

[@Team33Team33]

WHY on earth don't ALL jewelry companies use LAB diamonds if there is NO difference ? They give no certificates of provenance in anycase but sell for twice the price. IS this who these lasses have been selling their LAB diamonds to up until now ? LOL.

[@B.D.F.]

They don’t use lab diamonds because blood diamonds are cheaper, as is the massive stockpile of unsold blood diamonds.

[@Team33Team33]

@@B.D.F. They are saying exactly the contrary. Lab diamonds are 50% cheaper.

[@nisnga147]

Diamonds have value due to scarcity. Lab means no longer scarce… so surely its shooting yourself in the foot?

[@effess8698]

@@nisnga147To make a lab grown diamond you have to basically recreate the conditions in which diamonds are formed i.e. extreme high pressure etc. It will never be a cheap or easy process so there will still be scarcity. The difference is that there is no mining etc required so no miners, mining equipment, logistics, shady deals etc

[@electronicpen]

This was a weird one! Maybe it was in the edit. Hopefully next videos will get back on track.

[@barka11]

On average, producing one polished carat of lab-grown diamond releases 511 kg of greenhouse gases, more than three times that of one polished carat of mined diamond.

[@tedcrilly46]

There are enough natural diamonds in Africas diamond mines for every US citizen to have a cup full each. Diamonds are naturally almost worthless. But the mines and supply are controlled by DeBeers, which is under international sanction for being a completely unethical entity.

[@indigoxalis]

I don't get why people would want to pay thousands of dollars for a diamond... There are so many different gemstones out there that are much more interesting and much more affordable! Tbh though, I don't think I've encountered someone from the younger generation who would want an expensive ring at all. I certainly wouldn't.

[@Hedning1390]

Diamonds are hard and don't deteriorate. They also have high refractive index which creates beautiful light shows, and are clear so they sparkle. Imagine a diamond crystal chandelier. Would be amazing. I know of some contenders like moissanite, but those are expensive too. What stones are you thinking of?

[@Yessirdo]

This is becoming popular the diamond is exactly the same as real

[@ElainaKendal]

Lab grown diamonds are real diamonds. They actually have less imperfections. Some people just prefer the old fashioned way of a diamond. Lab grown diamonds are absolutely stunning and so much cheaper. This is why more and more ppl opt for them now.

[@andycole007]

cubic zirconia

[@jennifer-e9k6b]

No they are not, there are ways to diffrentiate between them, so they are not the same obviously... Way lower price as well, for a reason

[@Sgt.Slaughter]

The only difference between a lab grown diamond and a real diamond is mohs scale of lab grown is 9.5 and a real one has hardness of 10.0

[@davidburgess189]

Fair play to them. They’ve got some minerals

[@An00bisY00tubis]

This is an absolutely fantastic deal, in an industry that is enormous and potential for growth is huge. $8million in revenue for a business like this is far from their ceiling. I agree his equity is very low, but this is a long play investment and they could easily hit $100mil+ revenue and he’ll bag his return in a single year, if not sooner.

[@Yasmina-1979at]

Wow, nice unexpected plot twist

[@Gonken88]

We recently bought 800kg of barbecue charcoal, a vice and a bunzen burner and we're here pitching for £500 000 for a 1% share in our ethical diamond business 🙄.

[@barka11]

lab-grown diamonds are worth a fraction of the what they were bought for as times goes on they are not a good investment

[@andycole007]

cubic zirconia

[@TOM-C.]

I have my doubts about Steven's common sense here! The business will need to make $7,000,000 million in profit for Steven to just get his money back. They expect, and this isn't written in stone, to make a profit of $500,000 the current year? Of which Steven will get just $15,000! This is not a great, or even good investment. I think he let his guard down here, and eventually won't go through with the deal once he has time to think, and reconsider! 👍😎✌🗽

[@Angela-mt8mq]

You are right there tom I think he just can’t help his pants and not with his head

[@ravd8082]

losses for the last 5 years then all of a sudden 500k profit next year 😂

[@billyjesus5442]

ever heard of the freemasons? these girls look like the craft is pulling them up.

[@An00bisY00tubis]

I disagree, the industry in enormous and that growth is hugely exponential. $8million in revenue for a business like this is peanuts. I agree his equity is very low, but this is a long play investment and they could easily hit $100mil+ revenue and he’ll bag his return in a single year.

[@Karen-ig6bp]

Lawd above! Hope these two ladies realise how important it is to get a well known person/celebrity that is not despised by the public.... People have refused to purchase products worn by that (!) one mentioned (M....)

[@chrissilvester5663]

Wow how rude were they to Sara. She offered them exactly what they were asking for yet they were like screw u & only focused on Stephen

[@wildnfree101]

The world of business is cut throat.

[@catman2484]

Why is that rude?? They know where their weaknesses are, and who would best assist them to alleviate those deficiencies. Sara said herself that she is entering an area she knows nothing about, so what use is she?! This has the potential to be a billion pound business... They need the right people and did exactly the right thing sticking to their guns. Good luck to them!

[@MLife1972]

Sara didn't really make a compelling argument for what she could add to the business. Also, I have a feeling these entrepreneurs don't exactly want to be on a Home Shopping show.

[@sadikmeah4057]

I bet that doesn't go through just like many others of Steven's investments.

[@dimitrifotop]

Is it only me or did anyone else find them rude? They came in for publicity only and I bet you the deal did not come through.

[@melissajohnson9254]

And they said that this girl does not have power and influence

[@jasoncysiu]

Walk away and you always get a surprised response

[@patriciapickett836]

I just can't get past the idea of 'artificial' or 'faux' diamonds. They aren't naturally made and, IMHO, definitely are inferior. I never would buy or wear them. HOWEVER, I do hope that companies like this force miners and others to tread much more responsibly and carefully on and in the earth.

[@TaylorSahara]

I'm not a fan of their vibe at all.

[@Johnnybananass-_]

Diamonds are such a sham to begin with, A false value created by marketing alone.

[@thangvuong9196]

Unless they're offering him protection, this deal will probably not happen if he's buying in at 250k for 3% the next round of funding will dilute him down to nothing.

[@markshepperson3603]

It’s kind of like champagne and sparkling wine. Essentially the same but without the kudos.

[@kabtak252]

U mean the blood loss and slavery bit..

[@sadieinnes-smith8263]

show up in blue jeans and a cardigan with a hot accent and you will def get the investment. Who remembers the Theo TheFoetus/DuncanBannatyne days?

[@dominicharvey6048]

Are they actually real diamonds? I thought diamonds are made at super high pressures and heat over millions of years. How can you crate that in a lab. I have seen videos of people compressing carbon like coal and it looks like a diamond but they said it wasn't. Correct me if I'm wrong

[@WibbleOWibble]

You're wrong... try wikipedia...

[@bluceree7312]

Which makes diamonds the greatest scam ever invented. Worse than bit coin.

[@TOM-C.]

They are identical, real, and are indistinguishable from the natural diamond to the naked eye. However there are some differences, like the natural diamond has tiny amounts of nitrogen, and tiny particulates that found their way into the diamond. These are the main ways a gemologist can tell a natural diamond from a lab grown, among others. The lab grown is perfect in other words where the natural diamond is not! I'm no expert, just curious, did a little research, and I'm certain there may be other differences, but the lab grown diamond is every bit a real diamond, it just didn't take millions of years to develop.

[@uditfonseka]

Meagan Markle----What UK company would want to have anything to do with that women?

[@rid1sobuj]

If they are real diamonds, why they are 50% cheaper than REAL diamonds?!

[@amandagreeff1210]

If Meghan Markle wears it, unfortunately I won't

[@radiance65]

And that's how you do it. 🎯

[@warona1436]

love meghan and eveything she wears so automatically love this brand ❤

[@agnesvanya2329]

Maybe Steven did the canny thing, but I can't help thinking he will regret investing in such incredibly greedy women. They rejected Sara's offer, which was exactly what they came in asking for. I hope that their greed will come back to bite them.

[@ChrisChanningChannel]

Help me understand ... is this just the way business works, or did they actually behave badly?

[@tanyajacobs9974]

That a what I was thinking. They really screwed poor Sara Left me with a sour taste in my mouth .

[@BenjaminGoose]

Rejected the offer they came in for, it's clear they only came for the exposure. I hope they fail.

[@aidankelly840]

Diamond s are forever

[@annikamodig5917]

Did they said cold emails? I did not understand the word and what they ment.

[@iamsofaking6728]

It’s like cold calling. Sending mass emails to people in the business and hoping a few respond.

[@kenjiwa5895]

@@iamsofaking6728 Exactly, it's another term for unsolicited emails.

[@Idkchangethislater]

They spammed her arse until she gave in

[@blackbere666]

Steven needed a moment with the wall it seems so.

[@BenjaminGoose]

He's spineless.

[@ravd8082]

3% is too little tucka and Peter are right, steven should of stuck with his original offer

[@sallyduff2827]

Good for them great idea, but its still very expensive costume jewellry at the end of the day. Dont think it will really catch on if someone wants to spend that amount of money its an investment. I wonder what the resale value of these diamonds would be😢

[@khalidsuxx]

trust me i got the exact lab diamond from them n from.china n its the same with 70 percent less price. so F them lol for being rude

[@BG-ef8sk]

Steven was mugged off

[@wildnfree101]

I don't agree, these women know what they are doing. Steven will simply get his team to do some marketing for the company and he will make money for doing nothing. He will make a lot more that leaving the 250k sat in a bank account.

[@ravd8082]

@@wildnfree101 making losses for the last 5 years they said 500k profit the next year 😂 valued it at 6 million steven should of stuck with his original offer 3% its too low i agree with peter and tucka on this

[@hammalamiri12]

@@ravd8082 Not only that but Steven should not have bowed under pressure after the disrespect they showed. However Steven is definitely intelligent and probably will make it work if the deal goes through.

[@dfungus6921]

They pulled the wool over the Dragon's eyes. They got the marketing by this being on tv. They dont need the money and just screwed thr dragons by behaving like silly greedy teenages. Dragons are stuck in the 90s. 3%...They must be mocking him.

[@deborahdennehy9937]

Sara is just incredible, but obviously with Steven it is understandable the offer he gave they TOOK!! Well done ladies & good luck for the future, you deserve it!!

[@uditfonseka]

Meagan Markle---for once, Jenny would have a good reason to be Out.

[@greendsnow]

exactly why you should stop buying diamonds...

[@borismuller86]

Smart move. They’ll be fine.

[@sjefhendrickx2257]

They are not from Antwerp! They talk French so thats not possible!

[@kannu5039]

I’m from Antwerp 😃 never know of them

[@TaylorSasa-yq6qx]

Lab diamond has zero resale value as tech improvements happen prices drop in lab diamond so resale is zero

[@sophiecollins]

Truly the worst edited dragons den clip so far.

[@DetroitTyler]

Branding fake diamonds, not a bad idea. Take something that is mundane and common, amplify the quality a notch and brand it. Lemons and lemonaid.

[@pjdexter168]

But the point and appeal of a diamond is that they ARE mined, they're hard to locate and mine lol, that's what makes them expensive and unique, billions of years to form under the earths crust. There's absolutely nothing magical or special about a lab made one lol.

[@streetsbrook]

@pjdexter168 - research ‘blood diamonds’ and see if you think differently afterwards.

[@pjdexter168]

@@streetsbrook I've seen the movie, I'll take real over fake any day

[@skratakh]

Natural diamonds aren’t particularly rare, lots of other gemstones are far rarer, only a fool would prize natural diamonds over lab grown or other gems. Diamonds are common but overpriced.

[@pjdexter168]

@@skratakh you obviously don’t know much about diamonds.

[@wildnfree101]

@@pjdexter168 Actually skratakh is right, it is true, 80% of the mined diamonds are locked away by the big diamond companies to artificially keep the price high.

[@techshyam1857]

This is copy of 💎 so this is very difficult to say that this is working on future 😢😅

[@kevindevilliers3572]

Why the music. Annoying.

[@JasonClark-e3f]

I just don't trust this show anymore after the MS "cure" was featured

[@RJSAMCRO]

So they want to make lab grown non-authentic diamonds but makes sense tho they got a D List celeb and wanna be princess perfect match

[@Idkchangethislater]

💀 How she a wannabe if she married the prince???

[@onlyweatherlol93]

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT

[@hotwheelshuntinguk]

I feel bad for Sara 😢

[@aidankelly840]

Great news on Peter Not understanding But the woman new He like a child not understanding. Well 1st time he understands How cats are put among the pigeons. Great the way the woman Has to educate him for free Lucky him After all he charged everyone Through out his life 😅

[@englishrose6790]

It’s was very weird…

[@jay-dubb.dubb.68]

The weed is trippin me out this a.m. 😮🎉

[@wamboshomaryan8002]

what was the point🤔 they got offers from people who actually believe in their business the two women and want to give them ALL that they want😑to turn it down🙄

[@Cashina1]

Why is Sarah Always losing? It hurts me

[@guiltdesignator5333]

These two women don't want a Dragon who has an affiliation with a tv shopping channels, especially ones that sell end of line, bankrupt stock and tat in general. These women are full on snobs, they are likely being bankrolled by rich families

[@BuildLocal]

That's such a joke over 2% they never wanted the investment

[@webapple1]

i mean i have 1 important question: if its so ethical , cheaper and exactly the same quality etc..... why doesn't everyone start up a diamond making business rather than mining it.

[@netcalis]

The diamonds are identical; but the mined ones are natural (real diamonds), while the other ones are artificially made. You can copy a Picasso; it will still not be a Picasso.

[@webapple1]

@@netcalis right but if they are identical and I put to you these 2 diamonds and didn’t mention it , you put them under a scope etc and you cannot see a difference…. A copy of a Picasso will never be identical firstly because Picasso isn’t alive anymore , secondly it could never be put under a microscope and be truely identical

[@jonathanarocho893]

​​@@webapple1because they aren't naturally occurring. So what if Picasso isn't alive? Your argument is that if it's indistinguishable from the original, people should accept it. That's not how people think. Even if it's identical, it wasn't painted by the man himself. Even if they're identical, one diamond wasn't formed over time in the earth.

[@webapple1]

@@jonathanarocho893 somehow I don’t think people are buying a Picasso picture because it looks good , its because it’s good and it’s done by Picasso , if you’re saying people would care because it was created by earth … like I guess but at the same time a diamond is a diamond (paintings cannot be an equivalent argument )

[@jonathanarocho893]

@@webapple1 exclusivity is why people buy Picasso's. That's exactly why people buy precious metals or stones: because, like a picasso, they are finite in their availability. They take millennia to form and tremendous effort to excavate. If Picasso was amazing but painting 1000 paintings a day, his paintings would be seriously decreased in value. Equally, if the quality was identical but mass produced, they would lose value. If their acquisition is no longer rivalrous or exclusive, they lose their value. These aren't principles exclusive to diamonds or paintings. They apply to the value of almost any private good. Any rivoulrous and exclusive commodity could be used as an example. As far as the argument for ethics is concerned, a KZbin comment section isn't where you'll find your answer. The reality is ethics is an extremely subjective field but most would disagree with your assessment of the creation of new industry as unethical based on the phasing out of older industry.

[@benybe123]

Buying a fake diamond feels the same as buying a good replica rolex 😂

[@andycole007]

cubic zirconia

[@TaxingIsThieving]

2:40 How?

[@drewlett2465]

Is the issue that, just like with currency compared to cryptocurrency, if toubcan juat keep making pretend diamonds, their value decreases?

[@benjaminwebb2906]

These two were so rude to Sara, absolutely disgraceful.

[@rohailiqbal8605]

Its called business mate, nothing personal. Not sure if you’ve ever seen dragons den, the dragons have done 100x worse.

[@wildnfree101]

The world of business is cut throat, it's nothing personal against Sara.

[@NN-jd5ul]

Seems like you're a people pleaser to think they were rude to Sara this is about business and they chose the dragon who they believe can best assist them to achieve their goals.

[@benjaminwebb2906]

@@rohailiqbal8605 yes I’ve seen it before and never seen anyone quite this rude.

[@benjaminwebb2906]

@@wildnfree101 she offers them exactly what they want and basically the way they just shut her down. They could have been politer.

[@swisspunker94]

man I really dont like the way they film these new episodes. I dont like the new over saturated color scheme and I dont like that they only use camera angles from the front. It feels more generic now....

[@mark4371]

Every comment in this section is nonsense Diamonds are not rare at all A company called De Beers own the mining rights and only release a limited number of mined diamonds into the market

[@todd-makes-videos]

No one wants fake diamonds anymore. Some places give them away free when you make a purchase.

[@LanaDelReySupremacy]

Maybe for you but as long as it sparkles like a diamond i’m happy,