EV regulations 'most at risk' from overthrow of Chevron, says Capital Alpha's James Lucier

James Lucier, Capital Alpha Partners managing director, and Danny Cervallos, NBC News and MSNBC legal analyst, join CNBC's 'The Exchange' to discuss the Supreme Court ruling that reduces government regulation.

[@Jose-hq8gn]

The most important scotus decision in a long time..the agencies cannot rule in this country..

[@amariner5]

The Left can have their regulations, they just have to pass the regulations through the People's Representatives in Congress. Crazy! That "THE PEOPLE" get a voice in this! We're at risk of being a representative democracy

[@Orangejuicer297]

It is now lawful for your sewage company to not treat your waste water, and instead dump it into your lakes and rivers. Aircraft and vehicle safety laws - over 4000 of them - are now no longer lawful. Do you remember Takata airbag recall as they were exploding in peoples faces? That is now lawful and must be litigated by courts. You may also forget the ozone layer thinning and the solution came from regulations. Your foods can now have bugs, maggots, and no longer have to be food-safe inspected as that was a rule put in by the administrative state. If you open up a sandwich and see ants, bugs or beetles, there is no longer recourse. EV's are not in danger period - EV's have billions invested into them by private companies. Your water, food and air is at risk because that does not have a defender.

[@feelnowayss]

yep,. now it's up to the easily corruptible judges who have no expertise in any of areas of health, science, or pharmaceuticals that will get to dictate the law.

[@MissLibertarian]

@@Orangejuicer297Consumers are the MOST powerful force in the markets. We are more powerful than regulators, more influential than politicians, more numerous than bureaucrats and law enforcement put together. You lost me at sewage.” Any company doing that would be out of business in a blink. I think you grossly underestimate what happens when providers must turn to happy customers with strong vested interests in a happy, healthy, safe, life using good cost-effective products and services, instead of whatever a conglomerate focused on lobbying Congress, complying with outdated regulatory requirements, ever present attacks on freedom, and staying big enough to afford a compliance department and government relations department. Consumers pay for all of it. It’s about time to cut our overhead and streamline the process. When a producer fails the consumer, they go out of business unless the government mandates we use their products.

[@Aggie1295]

@@Orangejuicer297 You are full of it

[@chiplowery236]

I 100% agree with the decision, agencies have no one to blame but themselves for overreaching with their interpretations.

[@mickael486]

You're either an AI bot or a lazy person that doesn't comprehend what this is .. or an actual billion dollar corporation for you to think what you just said.

[@Kanoee64]

🔥💥🎯💥🔥

[@TimEngbergSongs]

Sucker

[@tohopes]

well, i mean, they've had a good run.

[@marklihsu]

ATF comes to mind

[@barrellcooper6490]

Unelected people in federal agencies never should have had the power they were given under Chevron. Congress needs to reassert itself as the legislative body, executive orders should be curtailed, and voters should hold Congress responsible for acting when action is needed.

[@Orangejuicer297]

Ok, so now there's no regulators to fine or require companies to ensure there's no poo in your tap water. Are you excited to eat human skin flakes in your imported Chinese foods now that the FDA has no power to refuse entry to such products? Just simply amazing that the right-wingers are cheering poo smoothies and skin flakes but you do you honey.

[@kurtphilly]

Congress does not have the expertise. Perhaps you missed it, but those unelected people can be let-go or fired, judges have almost zero accountability. Congress has an approval rating of less than 20%. You need to be a bit more realistic. I’m all for Congress doing a better job, but I don’t trust them to understand cybersecurity, parts per million of chemicals in our water or air, or how to develop a next generation energy grid. Without a central owner; a government regulatory commission the private sector will drag its feet until the last minute to maximize profits.

[@chrishackett554]

Outstanding ruling ! Free Americans from tyranny

[@craig8638]

Yeah, the tyranny of clean air and water. Why do you think the Koch brothers funded the cases the court used to overturn Chevron? So now you’re gonna be under the tyranny of monopolies and polluters. This is nothing to do with average Americans.

[@lukegoode4373]

Lol these regulations are keeping you safe dumb dumb. Enjoy more 737 max crashes, Flint michigan, BP oil spills, and asbestos incidents.

[@kurtphilly]

I hope this is a joke. Otherwise you really don’t understand what this means. As this piece points out, a judge with zero expertise on a topic and possibly an ideological view you disagree with versus an agency that has a mandate to meet the requirements written by Congress. Let me say, this a spectrum and not binary. Power in making decisions should require checks and balances.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

This ruling will free some Americans from *perceived* "tyranny", and replace it with the real tyranny of China wiping the floor with America economically because they don't make stupid politicized decisions like this.

[@EdwardMugits-Video-Marketing]

Take power away from All unelected agencies

[@craig8638]

And give it to judges that aren’t elected and serve for life and can’t be fired? That’s what just happened. It’s even worse.

[@iwill6002]

And give it to unelected political lifetime appointees. That aught to do it!

[@downshiftdan]

​@@craig8638just pay em off

[@georgemusgrave6152]

Taking power away from bureaucrats is always a good thing

[@CortexNewsService]

Those same "bureaucrats" also inspect food, set standards for infrastructure, prevent labor abuse, and make sure we have usable water and air.

[@inquisitiontabletop1980]

​@CortexNewsService true but that is power that is actually delegated by elected officials we can hold accountable chevron was not that it was broad ambiguity grab for power they never had and former chief justice sclia after the fact regretted joining the majority to introduce the chevron doctrine when he saw how it was abused before he passed

[@Doc5thMech]

Politicians know more than doctors. Judges are not trained to understand expert research, but they understand the power of gifts.

[@Orangejuicer297]

Those beaurocrats ensure you aren't drinking poo in your tap water, ground up maggots in your food and having your airbags explode in your face or airplanes fall out of the sky. 17,000 regulations are now overturned. Happy dining honey!

[@patrickm6012]

New boss same as the old boss.

[@phoenixskeptic7698]

It's the legislatures job to make laws, not the executive branch.

[@jessev5761]

The problem here is the Administrative State. Meaning, the federal bureaucracies ran by un-elected, un-accountable individuals..

[@GML_123.]

Exactly that’s why this ruling makes sense

[@Orangejuicer297]

@GML_123. this ruling just removed restrictions on poo, vomit, spittle, skin flakes, mice rlfeces, centipedes maggots and other bugs in your food and water. None of those items above is explicit in any law. The FDA and EPA began regulating feces, skin flakes, spittle and bugs as they defined what "harmful pathogen" meant. This ruling means congress needs to go back and explicitly state the levels of poo, vomit, spittle, mice and bugs that can be ingested. Enjoy your poo smoothie as you celebrate your rivers lighting on fire again (which was the reason for this ruling in the first place.)

[@Orangejuicer297]

@GML_123. so as of today, congratulations on having the food standards of literally a developing nation like North Korea which uses human fecal matter in its fertilizers (now unconstitutional to enforce the ban on human poo being used as fertilizer in the USA.)

[@ak102986]

but the legislatures created the agendas for regulation.

[@miken7629]

This is so wonderful, Bureaucracy had become the fourth and most powerful branch of government, Trump had been trying to rein in Bureaucracy and his Justice picks did the job for him. The idea the Bureaucrats can create laws and penalties by decree is unamerican, unconstitutional, an abuse of power. Now we need budget cuts that cuts down the size of Bureaucracy to reduce the deficit.

[@Kanoee64]

Only Democrats would think that this is a bad decision!

[@stitchintime5481]

What if they cut Social Security? Will that please you? Then, we have the drug companies who want to become trillionaires. I guess you won't mind traveling to Canada to get your medicine. It also means corporations don't have to abide by any regulations. They can raise their prices whenever. The contractors who build our planes won't have to worry about how they have to meet standards.

[@kurtphilly]

You clearly have limited understanding of how regulatory policy is made. When Congress makes a law it is messy AF, every industry puts in their two cents and than each political party has to give-in or give-up certain parts to get it passed. This leads to the red tape. Having actual experts that put the puzzle together to meet the standards of the law is critical. Bureaucracy actually benefits corporations and not taxpayers. The result of this decision will likely make any change more difficult, even the most pragmatic policy changes that improve the lives of all Americans.

[@zur13l13]

@@Kanoee64 You want Big Oil corporations and their Rightwing pawns to decide whether they are polluting and defiling your children's planet. 50 years ago, you would have been arguing that cigarettes are good for you.

[@richardmiller5456]

5 USC 554. P.L. 89-554. 1946. Chevron Deference was illegal back in 1984 when USSC with only 6 judges No more nameless, faceless, bureaucratic deciding my Constitutional rights.

[@amercanmade2685]

So now the "Experts" will have to state in Public what their expertise says. Or they can appear before Congress in Public Hearings and there explain why they see a need to stop American Citizens from doing what we want with our own Property. Or why they should tell us what kind of Car/Truck to buy.

[@Orangejuicer297]

No, Congress has to specifically state that poo in your drinking water is a pathogen, and then explicitly state the levels of poo you can have in your water. Prior to the Chevron ruling there was no regulatory agency and people were sick. You were huffing back on leaded gasoline fumes with your leaded pipes. I guess the poo smoothie you voted for is making you incredibly happy - that or you have no idea what this ruling actually does in your life. You got what you wanted though! Enjoy those Chinese maggots in your unregulated food! Until Congress gets together banning limits of skin flakes, fecal matter, urine, rat feces and other pathogens explicitly labeled.

[@darrylbradley]

Deregulation is good for the economy.

[@mikebamboo2000]

Until it crashes

[@Orangejuicer297]

How is drinking poo in your unregulated tap water, maggots in your unregulated food, and unsafe vehicles and faulty mechanisms that would not pass the prior regulations good \for the economy? Do you think drinking poo, maggots and driving in a car with exploding airbags or faulty tie-rods and CV joints is going to increase productivity?

[@Michael-xg2hm]

​@@Orangejuicer297 Didn't that already happen under Obama in flint Michigan

[@Orangejuicer297]

@@Michael-xg2hm You heard about that because the REGULATORS came in and sued the Republican State Governor who was in charge at the time. Under your new America, those pipes don't have to be changed, and that water doesn't have to be treated until Congress explicitly sets limits.

[@Michael-xg2hm]

@@Orangejuicer297 Regulations are still in place The only thing that changed with this Is The agencies won't have a court But the people will get their court back

[@andrewfisher8749]

Good. Unelected unaccountable bureaucrats have out of control for decades. Enough already. This will pressure Congress to do their job.

[@PandoraJonesmodel]

You have no clue what you're talking about. This is a power grab by the Court. Now you're going to get judges who know nothing about healthcare or pollutants or pharmaceuticals or meat safety making decisions that significantly impact our safety and health. They are the unaccountable, unelected ones. Wake up.

[@user-yo5ml3gq8c]

no it won't you tool.

[@folepi22_SteveC]

Absolutely. The power of these agencies has gone way overboard and out of control.

[@mike60521x]

@@folepi22_SteveC so powerful that they sabotage political candidates maybe if this was passed a few years earlier, epstein would still be alive

[@stevemcqueen399]

Absurd claims, congress will do nothing and things will get worse. The agencies understand the issues better than congress. Those “unelected bureaucrats” you malign have far more accountability than any SCOTUS or congress member.

[@CasualObserver-jx4zh]

Good call SCOTUS. The Administration State has been out of control for decades. Have the Legislature actually do their job and if you need guidance on ambiguity?? bring in actual experts to render different opinions so that you The Supreme Court can call Balls and Strikes. Kudos to The Robert’s Court.

[@lorrie2878]

Great! Try to get a drivers license without workers who know how the system works.

[@youtuby014]

Normal people won’t see benefit from chevron overturned. The only beneficiaries are the owner class. Why are you cheering?

[@lorrie2878]

@@youtuby014 right.

[@lorrie2878]

@@youtuby014 my house is almost paid for. Am I owner class? Just kidding.

[@TyroPirate]

You are describing exactly how the system works (or... worked). If guidance on ambiguity was needed, an expert would be called to help. It just so happens that the expert would be some government employee. (NASA scientists are government employees. We all like NASA, right? I'm OK with them being called to help interpret vagueness if needed for air or space related issue) Unless you are referring to them consulting experts as, congressmen should seek out experts while drafting bills... they do... That's the job of our favorite corporate lobbyists. To educate congressmen on the topic their interest group represents (and we all love lobbyists, right?). But the congresspeople aren't the smartest so they will forever always write vague laws earmarked to hell

[@bernardbarr2354]

The agency experts don't know the subject matter either. Look at some of the comgressional hearings.

[@subieguy00]

These "experts" are a joke. Covid was a great example. They are what we crossed a ocean to escape from back in the day!

[@dgilchrist6361]

Let’s hope all Federal regulations are immediately suspended until they can all be reviewed to ensure they do not infringe on the peoples individual right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Tear down the Federal Government as it is today and restore the three Co-equal branches of Government.

[@carguy3028]

We don’t have a dictatorship, we have a representative republic. If you want the law to be something else you have Congress to pass a law and the president signs it. The Courts interpret law this is in our constitution. The people in the agencies who are enforcing the law should not be interpreting law.

[@E52O4]

I’m in total agreement. Hard to believe some people don’t/can’t understand this simple concept. I blame it on our education system for not teaching our children about our system of government.

[@carguy3028]

@@E52O4 I don’t know if it is the education system because I got the same education as many others my age and I learned a lot about our system from that education system. I do know many others didn’t pay attention they weren’t interested so I would bet most people didn’t pick it up and those who did only learned enough to pass and forget everything after that. I would blame the media for over hyping the president, I have long believed that if you are worried about who occupies the White House then that office has too much power.

[@axer3515]

That's how it was meant to work. Agencies can go to the legislature and try to pass laws the way it was meant to be.

[@Orangejuicer297]

There is no law passed that limits the amount of poo you can have in your drinking water. Prior to this ruling, the EPA ensured it was zero. The EPA is no longer allowed to fine or regulate poo in your water or foods without Congressional bill directly claiming poo as a pathogen. Fantastic work. Enjoy the poo smoothie.

[@abbottshaull9831]

@@Orangejuicer297 That may be true, but the Executive Branch was never meant to make up rules and regulations to be enforced as LAW. They their to advise the President and Congress on what Laws are needed so they can do their jobs without them changing what the rules are every 6 months. An Executive Branch that has that type of power, holds too much power in controlling the lives of the People who didn't vote for them.

[@Orangejuicer297]

@@abbottshaull9831 Now go ahead boomer, and do yourself a favor and read the original Chevron case which - with it being overturned - literally just overturned regulating poo in your treated tap water. I'm sure your private water company is going to just filter that out from the goodness of their hearts now though. Thankfully the medicines that are no longer going to be regulated without the courts are probably going to affect you more than anybody. Based on your age you are probably on at least 6 prescriptions. Enjoy the poo smoothie boomer. You earned it.

[@axer3515]

You are dancing around the fact that the EPA was created by Nixon to ensure standards not to issue fines. Then the government started arguing that the court should let the agency interpret what the regulation meant. That took away due process from the states and the average citizen,and gave rise to the " Unfunded Mandates" that left states powerless.the agencies were then making the law, interpreting the law and enforcing the law. That is for the courts. All this ruling does is force the making of law back to the legislature,and the enforcement of law back into the court. It changes nothing but eliminates the arbitrary and one-sided behavior of Federal agencies.

[@Orangejuicer297]

@@axer3515 How can you "take away due process" when judges review the changes from these agencies and cases are heard before a judge - just not a jury. You need to step back here and explain where in the Constitution is a jury trial guaranteed for civil matters.

[@user-mq4vo3mk1s]

The EPA suing individual citizens who run afoul of some EPA regulation. ATF creating regulations that send law abiding citizens to prison.

[@neilwatson9709]

O V E R

[@Orangejuicer297]

Yes, that is how regulators work. It takes one single person to destroy an entire habitat, watershed or public drinking water stream. Lucky for you, poo in your untreated water is now unregulated until Congress explicitly labels poo in your water as a harmful pathogen, and then sets the amount of poo you can ingest in your water. The same goes for centipedes, human skin flakes, fecal matter, vomit, dust and other bugs and pathogens from food vendors selling products into the US market. Those are now unregulated. Anybody is free to save money by removing safeguards to poo in your foods. Congratulations I guess. Enjoy the poo smoothie and Chinese skin flakes in your unregulated foods now.

[@user-mq4vo3mk1s]

@@Orangejuicer297 You are either being disingenuous, or you’re ignorant. I would suggest that you read the statutory laws governing federal regulatory agencies. Redefining statutes to advance a political agenda is not what the regulatory agency was designed to do. ATF creating new rules to send innocent people to prison is an example. Telling a property owner that clearing their property is a violation of federal regulations, and then suing the owner is not what this nation stands for.

[@Orangejuicer297]

@@user-mq4vo3mk1s Honey, you need to go back to when Chevron was decided and realize that clean water standards were LITERALLY THE BACKBONE of that case. An entire river lit on fire over 3 weeks. How are you people so stupid?

[@Orangejuicer297]

@@user-mq4vo3mk1s LITERALLY Chevron was brought because cities and companies were dumping raw, untreated sewage and oil, gas, propane and condi into fresh waterways - again resulting in the RIVER LIGHTING ON FIRE. Chevron deferred "ambiguity" such as "pathogens" and "toxins" to allow regulators to explain the nuances of why poo in your drinking water is a pathogen, and why condi is a toxin. Pretending the case that just got overturned didn't happen, had no facts on it and was not unanimous is pretty par for the course from somebody not working in the legal profession in any capacity. Enjoy that poo smoothie. YUM!

[@RatTerminator]

Corruption at Federal level!!

[@patrickm6012]

now we will continue to have corruption in the courts. All they need is a free flight, yacht trip. and buy a house for them to go your way.

[@notdisclosed]

This might help free Matt Hoover sooner. A picture of a machine gun part is not a machine gun.

[@marshall176]

What a great ruling.

[@RonCecchetti]

This is a terrible ruling

[@catherinebaskettastrology3627]

If you love being exploited 😮

[@Orangejuicer297]

For removing regulations on how much poo you can legally have in tap water? For policing and regulating foods containing skin flakes, fecal matter, urine, rat feces and other pathogens that come from foreign countries? I guess if that's your thing, congratulations but you could have just made a poo smoothie without forcing it on everyone else.

[@user-bb7xp8hv8y]

This is a great ruling. All these alphabet agencies should never have existed in the first place but since they do exist that doesn't give them the power to make rules or interpret what laws are. I think the alphabet agencies should be gotten rid of

[@Orangejuicer297]

@user-bb7xp8hv8y well enjoy your poo smoothie since this ruling made it so there is no agency like the EPA able to force your water company to filter your water. You literally have no idea what causes Chevron deference in the first place do you.

[@givemeabreakdoc]

Good. There should be no “regulations” forcing people to buy overpriced, poisoned powered plastic bubbles. You wanna buy one? Fine. Just leave the rest of us alone.

[@mikek3979]

Congress should write the laws and rules - not unelected bureaucrats.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

Not unelected judges who don't even understand what they will be ruling on. The people you denigrate as "bureaucrats" actually understand the laws that Congress wrote, and attempt to implement them correctly. This decisions puts America further behind on the international stage, and puts China further out in front.

[@marshall176]

Thank you Donald J Trump!!!!!

[@Orangejuicer297]

For removing regulations on how much poo you can legally have in tap water? For policing and regulating foods containing skin flakes, fecal matter, urine, rat feces and other pathogens that come from foreign countries? I guess if that's your thing, congratulations but you could have just made a poo smoothie without forcing it on everyone else.

[@stevenrogers5004]

This could help all the farmers & ranchers govt trying to shut down over Vague regulations not written by congress.

[@DaTooch_e]

This helps corporations not farmers and ranchers.

[@CortexNewsService]

And screws over people downstream. It lowers water quality for cities downstream and creates fishing dead zones in the ocean.

[@Jeevanm71]

lol this is meant to help corporations not small farmers

[@justinwolf7490]

It could also hurt them. Let’s say a big company starts dumping toxic waste on farm land. No regulations you just have to deal with it. If it gets in the drinking water too bad.

[@mikefowler301]

@@DaTooch_e Bullcrap how can you say that when it all over the internet? HHm?

[@Idol76]

Aww,sorry for the Democrats and their push for fascism. ☹️

[@Orangejuicer297]

Congress just now has to analyze the 17,000 different regulations that prevented you from having moths, bugs, ecoli and fecal matter in your food. They have to go back and set the new legal, safe limits for poo, pee, vomit, bird droppings in your tap water. Takata airbag recall would never have happened and exploding airbags in your face is now legal until congress says it is not. If you want to drink poo, pee, eat bugs and take untested and unregulated medicines while driving your vehicle on a road with cars that now no longer have to abide by the safety regulations that have saved millions of lives, neat. You got what you wanted i guess. I'm sure Space Laser lady is going to get right on ensuring you don't have ground up maggots in your food and is dilligently working on addressing drinking water standards. LOL.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

How ironic. And you don't even know why.

[@octavian1783]

So now elected officials can’t hide behind bureaucrats anymore.

[@DaTooch_e]

No, corporate profits over people's health

[@mikefowler301]

@@DaTooch_e well if ya stuck to corporation then this wouldn't have happened, to bad it was the little guy who suffered under these regulations they just kept kicking out year after friggin year. have fun whining more!

[@DaTooch_e]

@@mikefowler301 the little guy is the one getting screwed here. Lobbyists will now write laws benefiting corporations, not the little guy and then giving a "gratuity" to their politician.

[@iwill6002]

@@DaTooch_ethis is exactly what I’m thinking. If some corporation decides to use some harmful chemical in some commercial consumable, unless expressly stated in a law, not only will it now have to go back to the legislature- which is incapable of doing anything - it’ll otherwise have to go throw all the levels of the judiciary. Ultimately, the judiciary will have to interpret issues of which they have no expertise.

[@HeavyK.]

Chevron Deference is a sneaky way for Congress to avoid responsibility for crappy policies that punish people.

[@TheJagjr4450]

Maybe the agencies should not have imposed fees on businesses and forced a fisherman to pay for a regulator that the agency forced them to carry aboard their boats.

[@lindaehgartner3705]

OK then keep fishing until none are left and then what will you do?

[@acd2050]

This decision was long over due, too long have the agencies run a muck

[@PMaynard-22]

thank god we are much freer now from tyranny

[@PandoraJonesmodel]

I hope you're being sarcastic. Is requiring health insurance companies to provide free mammograms "tyranny"?? That rule saved my life

[@williamw5604]

@@PandoraJonesmodel Your mammogram was not free.

[@acd2050]

The court is saying that agencies should not make law, congress should. If the court is doing its job they should be saying that is our issue not in the law passed

[@user-mq4vo3mk1s]

MSNBC is surprised? Oh my!

[@pascalouellette8516]

Americans should be grateful this was overturned bureaucrats have been working against America for decades and it needs to be brought out with lawsuits...

[@barcelonachair6487]

This is why SCOTUS needs to be extended so this decision can be overturned. A powerful country with regulations which are bought and paid for from their lifetime appointments is one of the markings to its downfall. The GOP appointments have shown us who they are and why they make the decisions they do. Religion, money, greed and vendetta.

[@punchkitten874]

What incoherent copypasta is this?

[@marshall176]

Exploited? By whom? Chevron came out in 1984. And it was a bad idea then and a bad idea now. Just what do you fear?

[@elmabrooks7417]

Since this is done for the benefit of Corp, we need to take some of their rights away, just so they can feel what the public feels. It is not over yet, it is just beginning, we need to get started on BOYCOTT!

[@Orangejuicer297]

@elmabrooks7417 you have a second amendment. Lordy you guys are passive.

[@elmabrooks7417]

@@Orangejuicer297 No, I want the Military to use those weapons we paid for. Protect us who paid for the weapons and pay the people who serve. The people should not be involved in war unless we are called by the President? to fight. Otherwise the military and their volunteers to the military should handle the unruly. Jan 6, was unruly.

[@Orangejuicer297]

@@elmabrooks7417 honey, you need to read the constitution regarding military use on American soil.

[@glennbzt]

Vote red let’s keep common sense Supreme Court ..liberals Unhinged as always😂

[@UrbanGardeningWithD.A.Hanks14]

The #1 question is this: How will this affect HOAs?

[@marshall176]

No it isn’t. The agencies have powers given to them. If it isn’t clear then congress can easily clear it up. Why allow faceless bureaucrats to decide when statutory language is unclear? That’s what the courts are for. Separation of powers. Civics 101.

[@William1866]

Bureaucrats angry!

[@mike60521x]

they did it to themselves when people like pelosi and waters started attacking scotus and their family in their homes

[@rbm6184]

The executive branch has no Constitutional authority to make or change law that is reserved to the legislative Congress. Chevron deference has just been rightly overturned for violation/conflict of the APA or Administrative Procedures Act. National agencies do not have unrestricted authority to enforce law arbitrarily. Under the APA, executive orders, rules, and regulations are not binding/valid until the judicial branch and the legislative branch (Congressional oversight) has vetted them by the Constitution or judicial review standards when a person is adversely affected or aggrieved by agency action. By the Constitution, national agencies do not even have the right to exist or have any authority and are a violation of Article I representative government.

[@mikefowler301]

Ya notice no low brows reply when ya slam them with facts? not one YABUT yet! 😁

[@rbm6184]

@@mikefowler301 Ah but there are die hard fanatics that still deny and defy the facts.

[@Orangejuicer297]

@rbm6184 just say you want poo in your food and drinking water because the thought of the FDA and EPA deciding what's defined as "pathogen" in the law is just too much for you to bear. Honey, can you even explain what brought the Chevron case in the first place? Just do a quick little search and see what your future looks like. You earned it, enjoy your poo smoothie and maggot meals!!!

[@amercanmade2685]

@@rbm6184 yes there are a small few in America that buy into the climate scam. We in America are a lot smarter then many of our European Friends that bought it hook lie and sinker. What would be great is when France holds this Snap Election and the far left is remover the new Leaders pull France out of the Paris climate scam accord

[@givemeabreakdoc]

“Interpret them creatively.” EXACTLY!!!!!! Therefore……..creating new law.

[@stevebriggs9399]

Not really. They're supposed to go with what the law says according to the plain meaning of the words used at the time the law was written. Sotomayor was pretty direct that she prefers to make policy from the bench in the Rahimi decision.

[@gsleatherworks2442]

About time!! The Judicial branch IS the authority on legal interpretation. The executive branch enforces and the legislative branch writes the law. The administrative branch has no role other than to serve the other three!! Writing and interpreting the law by the administrative state is, and always has been, an abrogation of the legislative branch’s responsibility to write effective laws.

[@dans3727]

The scotus is unelected.

[@DaTooch_e]

Except Congress doesn't write law. Their lobbyists do.

[@gsleatherworks2442]

Really? I didn’t know that! LOL You do realize that’s deliberately done as per the constitution, don’t you? Have you read the constitution? Do you know what a “Constitutional Republic” is? Do you know America is not a democracy, but a Constitutional Republic? Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep discussing what’s for dinner Constitutional Republic: two wolves and an armed sheep having same discussion. People are like sheep-they are fickle and forgetful. The Constitution and the SCOTUS are the “arms” for the minority that protect the rights from the fickle and forgetful majority. Both can be changed, but it’s deliberately very difficult to prevent fad mindsets and popular whims from crushing the minority.

[@E52O4]

@@dans3727they’re selected by Congress. Congress represents the people, who elect them. In essence, we did elect SCOTUS. This isn’t an accident; it’s by design.

[@Doc5thMech]

The executive branch relies on experts, the judicial merely rely on their vacations, and new cars, the legislative on corporate funding. That is what the lawyers of the 18th Century envisioned.

[@Cassander314]

I’m so glad she’s upset

[@Orangejuicer297]

For removing regulations on how much poo you can legally have in tap water? For policing and regulating foods containing skin flakes, fecal matter, urine, rat feces and other pathogens that come from foreign countries? I guess if that's your thing, congratulations but you could have just made a poo smoothie without forcing it on everyone else.

[@Laurie9361]

100% agreement with this ruling in these comments. But when your favorite fishing spot stinks to the high heavens of toxic chemicals and the only fish are floating belly up on the surface (as they did 50 years ago), when your kid dies of a cancer caused by contaminated drinking water, when another child dies from food containing deadly bacteria because the big food business couldn't be bothered to process it safely, when the supreme court decides that the drug you take to keep your arthritis in control or to fight your cancer has to be banned because it can be also be used for something that violates their extremist and fanatical religious beliefs, will you still agree?

[@beckerlegjames]

When my contact lens cleaning solution causes me to have blindness because the company doesn’t care if I go blind.

[@punchkitten874]

Fear mongering 101. There isn't anything in this decision that affects any of that. The laws are still in place. This ruling only matters where an agency is overreaching their CONGRESSIONALLY APPROVED limits. Agencies don't get to make laws, only rules to follow approved laws. Don't get hysterical, the only people this is detrimental to is petty tyrants. Or fear mongerers like you 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@t.dig.2040]

Show me a superfund site and I will show you a former government contract.

[@t.dig.2040]

Making the people jump through hoops to get a suppressor when hearing loss is by far the number one firearm related injury.

[@punchkitten874]

@@beckerlegjames Right, the FDA, it's run by pharma bros and industry slags. It's totally gonna make rules that protect the co

[@TontonMacoute]

I’m laughing at the comments below. OK, flood the Court with hundreds of motions about car headlights, chemistry of prohibited solvents, voltage of hairdriers, safety of children’s toys, etc. The COURT which hasn’t done a real day’s work in its useless life will leave everything to the Sacklers and the Koch Brothers? It’s not like they give a damn.

[@imzjustplayin]

I'm pro EV as I own a Tesla and have Solar PV to power my house and car. But I don't think a mandate is appropriate or at least I think the targets are too aggressive mostly because we haven't been easing into these targets like we should've over the last 20 years. There is a lot of infrastructure updates that need to be made and EVs need to be more cost effective before any sort of mandate should be considered. Hybrid vehicles get 90% of the way in terms of emission reduction compared with EVs charged via the fossil fuel powered grid. Until the grid is mostly powered by renewable energy, it's too soon to mandate the usage of EVs as it's wasted effort and money since the incremental environmental benefits don't outweigh the cost. EVs can only be significantly better when they're 100% powered by renewable energy.

[@acd2050]

The problem with leaving all of the fishing things to the fishing people is that most time things related to fishing affect every other area of life, you can’t make that decision in a vacuum. Some one needs to weigh the value of one thing over the others, that’s should be the people, and the people act through congress, or at least that is how it is intended to work

[@user-mk5sp6us9b]

The Chevron Doctrine should have never been adopted in the first place. The simple rule on law is that “the drafters of the law must have written what they meant & they must have meant what they wrote”. It was always that it is the Court to interpret, otherwise it is a case of “Power without Responsibility”. The justices only have to interpret the written word and nothing else. The😊judges are not expected to be technocrats in any thing except in jurisprudence and the😅😅 written law. Even the regulations as in secondary law are subject to the courts interpretation.

[@RC-qf3mp]

Separation of powers is in the constitution. congress needs to do its damn job and write good laws. If they don’t want to do that, then they can amend the constitution to institutionalize Chevron deference.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

This decision is a disaster for anyone who wants laws to be based on reality and facts.

[@alrivas1477]

Absolutely brilliant decision. Reigns in the constant overreach of government bureaucrats.

[@dave8k9hohnjmdavez57]

Legalize Freedom

[@dans3727]

This is not freedom. It is corruption.

[@Wizardof]

So they aren't worried about lead or where it goes now?

[@williamw5604]

How'd that work out in Flint Michigan?

[@acd2050]

The agencies should have operated under the assumption if you need to have a workshop on interpretation then that was not the intention of the law

[@dl8193]

So there’s this guy who has been publishing books for lawyers, judges and experts on expertise in the courtroom. . . . . . with the largest law publisher on earth . . . . for more than twenty years. His research highlights the Dunning-Kruger effect with lawyers and especially judges. . . . . when it comes to expertise and SCIENCE. . . . the Supreme Court created “the Daubert trilogy” of three cases in the 90s. The rules about expertise in the courtroom just got strengthened in December. . . . But 30 years of research indicates that the lawyers and judges who are supposed to assess expertise are TERRIBLE at it

[@bluecrueful]

Judge Aileen Cannon says your kids can eat dioxin and uranium is safe!! What can go wrong??

[@stitchintime5481]

There is a problem with SCOTUS. They are bent on overturning all of the laws implemented before them. Of course, they are wiser than judges who served the SCOTUS before them. What is the background of the judges in the Supreme Court today. LAWYERS! Not CEOs of companies, or industries of any kind.

[@fredpsimas1874]

Finally….accountability against a tyrannical government agencies!

[@who2u333]

Call them unelected all you want, but as the guest said they were the experts in the subject. Elected officials specifically leave laws vague so that the experts can decide the details and so that the elected officials can't really be held accountable. What this gives the US is now unelected and essentially unremovable judges making decisions instead of subject matter experts. No one except political partisans is served well by this. Unfortunately, like the harm to the middle class that Reganomics did, this will take decades to show how bad this decision is.

[@abbottshaull9831]

Under this reversal, most of the Obama Health Care Act is toast too. Requiring individuals to pay for insurance that doesn't cover anything to begin with, then imposing a fine on your taxes if you can't prove you have said insurance is highly far reaching overstep of the government.

[@andredaedone7732]

Agencies overstepped big time. When people take advantage of a right, they mostly always take it too far.

[@acd2050]

Congress is diminished because for 30 years congress has engaged in theater rather than law making

[@margot9373]

Chevron created a Fourth Branch of Government by giving agencies the authority to develop and enforce their own interpretations of the LAW. Thanks GOD, we are back to Three Branches of Government,

[@jeffpeterson5791]

Deconstructing the administrative state and checking power of these unelected bureaucrats.

[@stevenrussell9034]

I agree with the decision. It is Congresses job to make the laws. It is the Judiciary who interprets the law. Agency law was always a mistake.

[@stephenkiely9012]

Oh you mean unelected officials can no longer make laws??? What are they going to do now? Follow the Laws???

[@peleni1]

This is the greatest news I have heard in a very long time.

[@denniskimpton9981]

What this actually means is good news for American Business people and their employees😊

[@user-ng7rt9jt2i]

Excellent, free enterprise over excessive levels of bureaucracy, more taxes, and more government. This was in clear violation of our checks and balances set forward. Ambiguous laws are illegal.

[@rrbone]

Ah yes, the "experts" . They are never wrong or biased.

[@MrChainsawAardvark]

Most judges are not firefighters, and are not aware of the difference in flammability between a gasoline powered car, and an electric one. (Note - gasoline can be dispersed with water, batteries can not, and the lithium oxide prevents smothering as the reaction produces its own oxygen. Electric cars take nearly six times as much water to extinguish.) So expecting them to have the final word on on car fire protection requirements is pretty damn asinine. The government passes laws - agencies enforce it. Congress says we want less toxins in our air, the EPA figures out how to make that directive work. I certainly hope you are not expecting your senator to personally show up at a sewage plant and check the water quality and make adjustments. Similarly - beurocrats can be hired, fired, retrained, and disciplined - unlike judges that are usually an appointed position with fairly minimal oversight.

[@PaulSoloDubois]

That's the way it should be unelected bureaucrats should not be deciding how Americans live that's what the supreme Court is for and the courts.

[@zzzsmoovie9584]

Single passenger vehicles were never a solution. Make public transit better than single passenger and people will use it.

[@richb2229]

The courts is constitutionally required to determine laws. This put it back in the the courts. There has been too much “interpretation” by agencies, especially in controversial issues such as environmental issues.

[@rrbone]

Limiting the power of the federal government is a great thing. They work for us. This is good for the republic.

[@adambram]

This is seriously a terrible decision that is going to have widespread consequences for decades. Think what’s happened to Boeing now extending everywhere throughout our economy.

[@nalcon1]

Great decision! The unelected bureaucratic machine is no longer the supreme arbitrator. Great win for small business and real science.

[@user-tw3sj5uk7i]

Judges are not stupid they will bring in the experts to testify.

[@christopherdean2893]

The courts are not expert's at the case's that they're ruling on. What could possibly go wrong.

[@ocelot2703]

They can get plenty of testimony from experts..

[@inakale]

fact check 👉Lower courts have applied Chevron in thousands of cases, and the Supreme Court itself has upheld an agency's reasonable interpretation of an ambiguous statute at least 70 times.

[@joshhoward1289]

So EV regulations are playing fast and loose compared to the law? Color me surprised…

[@donaldkasper8346]

The courts are all about the testimony of the experts. Agencies takes care of their agenda, and the courts take care of the people and government usually in balance.

[@mattalford3932]

If that weed question on the gun buying form is a rule, then we are coming after that, too.

[@jimshepherd3841]

Good On SCOTUS LESS GOVERNMENT IS BETTER 🇺🇸💪🏼🇺🇸

[@donaldkasper8346]

Oh EPA can regulate appliances. There is no Federal law giving them this authority. They gave themselves this authority. Mileage and pollution mandates they make up, the Congress never gave them that authority. The whole environmental movement just discombobulates without dictates.

[@Dfgbuiiyyyybb]

Maybe Congress should be less ambiguous when passing laws? Or they could just work faster to fix loopholes?

[@claytonappleby6039]

It will now make congress do their jobs and keep laws up to date.

[@kadenpekarovich187]

Justice Gorsuch's original opinion referred five times to "nitrous oxide" (aka laughing gas) rather than the entirely different chemical compound -- smog-causing "nitrogen oxides" -- actually at issue in the case. They have since edited to correct it but it really highlights a problem we’re going to see a lot of. Judges making decisions about things they are not at all informed on.

[@PandoraJonesmodel]

Yup. And people will die because of it.

[@tomthelen8069]

Isn’t that why “expert witnesses” are brought in during court cases? Chevron seemed to give an “umbrella” of protection from scrutiny on the Bureaucrats’ decision making?

[@CortexNewsService]

But free market! /S

[@amariner5]

The Left can have their regulations, they just have to pass the regulations through the People's Representatives in Congress. Crazy! That "THE PEOPLE" get a voice in this! We're at risk of being a representative democracy.

[@Clintondmb]

Cry harder. Congress is going to have to work a few more days a year.

[@snowench11]

Beautiful ruling. And no EVs for me, thanks….

[@Rosebud282]

Getting rid of chivron is a great plus for the people.

[@brandonsheffield9873]

Executive branch should never make laws, Legislature makes the law (in detail) the the executive executes the laws/enforce, the court ensures legislation is constitutional.

[@adilevnatimasheva4370]

Good ! It should help , for example, our farmers. And about Trump : he graduated in the top of his class from one of the best schools for economics in the US, so the man does know the subject well , and he did demonstrate it .

[@ThatGuyz82]

What great news!!!

[@ThatGuyz82]

I might be bothered by this decision had federal employees actually been held accountable and fired for bad and nefarious decisions. But they were not. So yes, I would rather have a judge make rulings, because there is a system that can vet said decisions. Judges were forced to defer to agencies, even when they made bad decisions.

[@mb9662]

If you have puddles on your property the Federal agency in charge of protecting the Waterways of the US could tell you what to do on your property because Chevron deference….

[@tubularblonde]

(Is this called 'SELF-SERVING BY YOURS TRULY, SCOTUS"?) The Chevron rule originally allowed deference to Federal Agencies. Deference is now no longer going to be used.

[@wendy7879]

'They r in big trouble now'.....its about damn time!!

[@denniskimpton9981]

I'm not positive but I think you can build a house now regardless of the white spotted owl or the snail😊

[@guyewing1377]

"Interpreted creatively" is orwellian doublespeak for "we control you and everything you are involved in" F.A.F.O.