Every Cancelled Super Mario Game

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We reveal our research into every known cancelled Super Mario game, lost games such as Super Mario 64 2, Mario Kart XXL, Super Mario Spikers, and dozens more.
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@wertjoe
@wertjoe 2 жыл бұрын
Once I sent Nintendo a picture I drew of Mario with a sword. It said "I want to make a game of Mario with a sword" They rejected my pitch. Go ahead and add it to this list.
@tjlnintendo
@tjlnintendo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol ironically a similar thing happened that lead to the creation of Mario rpg on the snes.
@drmegasteve4335
@drmegasteve4335 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if you released that drawing to the public, people would mail it to them with that pitch and we would get it before mother 3
@nicklemay8056
@nicklemay8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@drmegasteve4335 he'd get a cease and desist before anything
@TravisTheMaximus
@TravisTheMaximus 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah right kid
@nicklemay8056
@nicklemay8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@TravisTheMaximus "travis the maximus"
@RondoOfBloodX
@RondoOfBloodX 2 жыл бұрын
Not releasing Croc on the N64 makes it seem like Argonaut was giving Nintendo the middle finger for not approving their Yoshi game.
@JazGalaxy
@JazGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a way to look at it. But it was a different world back then and multi platform games were pretty rare. The architecture of the pa1 and n64 were not similar. Even the controllers were very, very different in those days. Plus, the 3D platform market was pretty full on the n64 as opposed to pa1, where it was pretty wide open when croc came out.
@GreyWolfLeaderTW
@GreyWolfLeaderTW 2 жыл бұрын
It appeared to have a lot more to do with the fact that Nintendo and Argonaut decided to go separate ways, and the fact that Star Fox 2 (like Earthbound Zero before it on the NES) was cancelled because it was going to come out too close to the initially planned launch of the N64. That seems more accurate given the idea for the 3D platforming Yoshi game never progressed beyond pre-production planning and pitching stage (it would be petty to get angry at your co-developer/publisher for not giving the go-ahead for a project that had little work done on it). In fact, members of Argonaut who had worked with Nintendo like Dylan Cuthbert, who was one of the key developers of Star Fox, Stunt Race FX, and Star Fox 2, actually left Argonaut to work more closely with Nintendo and Sony (helping co-develop Blasto for the PS1), before founding Q-Games (which was responsible for Star Fox Command, Star Fox 64 3D, and a number of original titles like PixelJunk).
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
@@JazGalaxy Well, the PS1 and Saturn are not similar ether. Look at how bad Die Bard Trilogy is on Saturn compared to PS1. Yes, that game was also done with help from Fox Interactive, just like Croc
@MVCx_xB
@MVCx_xB Жыл бұрын
nintendo wouldnt have let them release on n64 anyways lmfao
@DoctorMinjinx
@DoctorMinjinx 2 жыл бұрын
"It never came out, no one knows why." That actually got a laugh out of me.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
same. it's just so anti-climatic!
@DTGee64
@DTGee64 2 жыл бұрын
The weird thing about Yoshi's Cookie is that not only was it never released on the Wii U Virtual Console, but it was actually pulled from the original Wii Virtual Console just a few months after that sizzle reel trailer came out. It seems there was some legal trouble that prevented Nintendo from selling it anymore.
@joannaalmazan4508
@joannaalmazan4508 2 жыл бұрын
If there's one thing Nintendo is good at and I'm pretty sure we all know what that could possibly be at this point is.......... No!
@Fernando17892
@Fernando17892 2 жыл бұрын
That was dunkey-esque
@lambybunny7173
@lambybunny7173 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnamaduin actually the NES version wasn't developed by bulletproof software, it was developed by Tose. The SNES version was however, but that's not the one advertised. Nintendo SHOULD have the rights to the NES version since they bought them
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all the games on here I think that cancelled Boo game looked the most interesting at least from a visual standpoint it really stands out compared to most other Mario spinoffs.
@AsKo25
@AsKo25 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, hopefully the NDA issues were actually related to the project being revived. I can dream.
@naithungoal609
@naithungoal609 2 жыл бұрын
I don't want to sound like a dick as I'm genuinely curious: is English your primary language?
@E-Eyes
@E-Eyes 2 жыл бұрын
@@naithungoal609 Bruh. They had one unnecessary word and thats it 💀
@naithungoal609
@naithungoal609 2 жыл бұрын
@@E-Eyes But also that grammar....
@Male_Parent
@Male_Parent 2 жыл бұрын
@@naithungoal609 People forget comma's all the time, even native English speakers like me. 🤣
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 2 жыл бұрын
2:38 I guess Pauline's singing career had an earlier start than we realized. Seriously though, who'd have realized that her singing was a throwback to an _unreleased_ game?
@nenkers3884
@nenkers3884 2 жыл бұрын
Its not a throwback, singing isn't a reference
@psych336
@psych336 2 жыл бұрын
@@nenkers3884 The character Pauline is a singer in Mario Oddysey also. It’s not the singing it’s the character
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@nenkers3884 you're fun aren't you?
@ZendovGaming
@ZendovGaming Жыл бұрын
@@ThommyofThennlol
@ShyGuyXXL
@ShyGuyXXL 2 жыл бұрын
20:55 "...a veteran game designer, best know for games like Odama and Semen..." Seaman: "It's SeaMAN! ....Get it right."
@elefanta1278
@elefanta1278 2 жыл бұрын
No, it’s Man Bazooka Juice!
@jackisboom
@jackisboom 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody's favorite Super Best Friend
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
Ah no no no no no!!! It's seaman! SEA! MAN!!!! Not Semen.
@donkeykong6426
@donkeykong6426 Жыл бұрын
angry video game nerd why with this quote its soo funny yet unsettling to other people !!!!! XD XD
@Lucas-db2jq
@Lucas-db2jq 2 жыл бұрын
"I cannot tell you why. But please guess" That sounds a tad ominous
@alexp.7135
@alexp.7135 2 жыл бұрын
If you've played Seaman, it's full of that kind of vaguely ominous humor. I'm not surprised that this quote is from the creator of Seaman lol
@angolin9352
@angolin9352 2 жыл бұрын
It means "I've signed papers saying I wouldn't and if I do then I'll get sued for a lot of money."
@angelriverasantana7755
@angelriverasantana7755 Жыл бұрын
Saito is a bit of a goofball with his remarks, so this may as well just be a joke
@jib4622
@jib4622 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's cool that they had instances of Pauline singing back then, and they brought it back with Odyssey.
@xboy9384
@xboy9384 2 жыл бұрын
bup
@lazybacon7520
@lazybacon7520 2 жыл бұрын
id's Mario 3 demo is actually really significant as far as development goes. In short, Carmack essentially had to create a workaround to even allow scrolling. That effect was possible on Mac, but had never been possible on PC until then
@ire5685
@ire5685 2 жыл бұрын
well, nothing is ever really a challenge for 5th dimensional being john carmack
@Blankult
@Blankult 2 жыл бұрын
@@ire5685 bearer of the knowledge that holds the universe together
@HistoryandReviews
@HistoryandReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Stop using the word essentially it’s unnecessary filler and does not make you sound intelligent thank you
@Blankult
@Blankult 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryandReviews wtf he just used it once what's wrong with you lmao
@puhskinti9358
@puhskinti9358 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryandReviews Stop using the word unnecessary it's filler and does not make you sound intelligent thank you
@DefinitivNichtSascha
@DefinitivNichtSascha 2 жыл бұрын
02:42 So Pauline was intended as a singer so far back already. Really makes you wonder whether they held onto this concept for all this time or if it's just a funny coincidence.
@froggod4504
@froggod4504 2 жыл бұрын
Granted, Nintendo has a hording habit when it comes to game development, so there's a very good chance they have all of the concept work and programming tucked away neatly.
@artboy598
@artboy598 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that someone on the team was doing research for Odyssey and found that out and brought it up to the team to “resurrect”.
@jenniferhamels1176
@jenniferhamels1176 2 жыл бұрын
So Spikers didn’t fit Nintendo’s “code of honor” due to violence, but Smash Bros does? How does that make sense? Lol
@yothatscrash3092
@yothatscrash3092 2 жыл бұрын
It don’t 😂
@charliefazzari6389
@charliefazzari6389 2 жыл бұрын
Id assume its a combination of smash getting grandfathered in + making millions of $$
@hoobidibahbidibah8119
@hoobidibahbidibah8119 2 жыл бұрын
Smash's violence is very cartoony and stylized, whereas the violence in Spikers from those demo animations seemed a little more brutal. Take Waluigi's stomp at 24:23. In Smash, Mario would've bounced away with smoke trailing behind him instead of just flopping back on the ground as if he's dead. But then again it could just be company bias.
@tjlnintendo
@tjlnintendo 2 жыл бұрын
Smash bros is just over the top cartoon violence where characters get launched across the stratosphere and blast off team rocket style. You can literally fight people with a stick and umbrella. Spikers looked to go for more psuedo-realistic wrestling vibe.
@BRD-Senpai
@BRD-Senpai 2 жыл бұрын
like those 2 other people said, smash bros is basically cartoon-brand violence, while spikers is just funi wrestle
@apollorock3r244
@apollorock3r244 2 жыл бұрын
16:31 Fun fact: That render of Gruntilda in that Mario Artist game is never seen in any Banjo-Kazooie media, making it the only render exclusive to a Mario game.
@dudestep
@dudestep 2 жыл бұрын
Added to my collection of rare Gruntildas.
@Yarumasi
@Yarumasi 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the game at 23:00 is so creative! I love that artwork and it would have been such a nice fit to a yoshi-style side game! What a shame....
@Apophis324
@Apophis324 2 жыл бұрын
"It never came out. No one knows why." That.. Hmm.. Well at least that's clear?
@marcrics
@marcrics 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Phillips weren't happy with companies work but then you look at the work they actually released and its mind-blowing 😂 those demos must have been terrible.
@AllAroundLooney
@AllAroundLooney 2 жыл бұрын
"Two original characters: A rock and roll duo named Heavy and Metal" Hands down best concept that I've heard in a long time, I would love to play a game like that \m/
@tjlnintendo
@tjlnintendo 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Megaman. Rock and Roll.
@zeedstun891
@zeedstun891 2 жыл бұрын
back then with toejam and earl, yeah, it definitley couldve worked
@Werten25
@Werten25 2 жыл бұрын
Going to be honest, I wish Haunt became a thing.
@waifu3070
@waifu3070 2 жыл бұрын
I love your pfp
@Werten25
@Werten25 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jeffcox6539
@jeffcox6539 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@HSHAO64
@HSHAO64 2 жыл бұрын
You and me both. The concept was awesome.
@maiastniki
@maiastniki 2 жыл бұрын
hey jetix
@AndyValdes
@AndyValdes 2 жыл бұрын
So during the N64 era, Miyamoto seems to be talking about having a playable demo of “Mario 64 2” that had a Mario & Luigi co-op mode, and then he suddenly just seemed to stop talking about it? I wanna know what happened with that, because it sounds like a completely separate thing from the Mario 128 tech demo.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
21:00 “this got scrapped as they thought it might cause children to get out of breath” And yet… Spirit Tracks…
@angel-of-light-kelly1355
@angel-of-light-kelly1355 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who struggled with that stupid panflute, I find that ironic too.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
Angel-of-Light-Kelly IMO those segments actively ruin the game. If i gave Spirit Tracks a 10/10, the panflute would drop it down to a 5/10, they’re THAT terrible…
@angel-of-light-kelly1355
@angel-of-light-kelly1355 2 жыл бұрын
@@BR-jw7pm I got so frustrated with them as a kid, which just made me almost pass out more.
@f4rr3r
@f4rr3r 2 жыл бұрын
20:58 NO, DO NOT PRONOUNCE SEAMAN LIKE THAT
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
We all know it's pronounced Seaman, it's right on the fucking cover of the game.
@DrDunsparce
@DrDunsparce 2 жыл бұрын
A Mario FPS game? "I may be out of-a lives, but I ain't out of a-options! SO LONG GAY BOWSER!"
@DrCasey
@DrCasey 2 жыл бұрын
"Nintendo disapproved of the project as they believed the violent gameplay did not match the company Code of Honor." I rolled my eyes really hard at that.
@zeedstun891
@zeedstun891 2 жыл бұрын
* glares at super smash*
@matthewscottentertainmentg1964
@matthewscottentertainmentg1964 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment while thinking to myself "Oh like Super Smash Brothers doesn't exist?" Lol
@Kpazz
@Kpazz Жыл бұрын
Sorry what did you say? i was too busy playing as Mario, hitting Peach with a baseball bat...
@GUNUFofficial
@GUNUFofficial 11 ай бұрын
Super Smash bros is more cartoony than *actual wwe style wrestling moves*
@xnamkcor
@xnamkcor 2 жыл бұрын
"Worried children would get out of breath.". Back in my day we got out of breath on a daily basis.
@BigLord
@BigLord 2 жыл бұрын
That picture of the rabbids carrying Bowser away is hilarious to me, for some reason. It looks like Bowser's saying "could you not?..."
@AmRealityInc
@AmRealityInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nintendo: Mario Spikers is unacceptable! Also Nintendo: Who's ready for more Super Smash Bros.?
@maddestmike5791
@maddestmike5791 2 жыл бұрын
Big logic fail on Nintendo's part.
@StudioInkblot
@StudioInkblot 2 жыл бұрын
Spikers had more visceral animation
@BlazeHeartPanther
@BlazeHeartPanther 2 жыл бұрын
Smash is more "over the top" with its action where Spikers looks more realistic.
@AmRealityInc
@AmRealityInc 2 жыл бұрын
@@StudioInkblot @BlazeHeartPanther ya'll are the reason we can't have nice things
@slapstickgags
@slapstickgags 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the Boo Haunt concept art and some of this is real freaky! For some reason, there's art of an angry Boo in the shape of the Star of David and using a menorah as a weapon. There's also a Boo crucified.
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised they didn't mention that.
@ClintonM06
@ClintonM06 Жыл бұрын
Boocified
@thebotbuilder
@thebotbuilder 2 жыл бұрын
IDK why but the concept of Wario playing pool is just funny to me
@Superboologan1
@Superboologan1 Жыл бұрын
I love that wario was *this* close to canonically having a manager What does wario do that warrants management?
@cecillewolters1995
@cecillewolters1995 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Haunt will get a release somewhere in the future, it looks and sounds awesome :O
@MistaBrando
@MistaBrando 2 жыл бұрын
Nintendo really just seems to hate doing anything fun and creative for Mario, anything out of the norm for his branding. Seeing something like Waluigi stomping on Mario is so friggin' goofy, shame they disapproved of such obviously cartoony violence. That Boo game also looks adorable, too bad it never got off the ground.
@maiastniki
@maiastniki 2 жыл бұрын
i blame the failure of the gamecube keeping them from being as ambitious as they were
@cursedkevin
@cursedkevin 2 жыл бұрын
Considering smash is a thing this makes spiker’s cancellation more baffling
@danoschwab9937
@danoschwab9937 2 жыл бұрын
@@cursedkevin well to be fair, barely anything makes Nintendo money like Smash does
@johnclark926
@johnclark926 2 жыл бұрын
Nintendo is so stupidly weird, they’ll release something as on-brand as Super Mario 3D World and then release the largely subversive Super Mario Odyssey as the next title. Super Paper Mario was the most beyond-Mario RPG of all time, and then they follow it with Sticker Star, the most standard-Mario RPG of all time. They reject ID Software’s Super Mario Bros 3 PC port because it wasn’t on their hardware, yet they permitted Hotel Mario for the CDI and the Mario Edutainment games for the MS-DOS (Mario is Missing for MS-DOS gave us the inspiration for Weegee). They also won’t have Sonic and Mario in a platformer together, but they will have Mario and Rabbids in a turn-based strategy game. They won’t allow for Wario Pool for the GBC, but they will allow Mario Pinball for the GBA. And they won’t allow Mario games to have violent wrestling but they’re okay with Mario in Smash Bros, a game series that’s mostly T for Teen. Whoever is running Nintendo seems to be random every time they give permission for a game, it’s like quantum particles that collapse into a random state when observed.
@mrtree1368
@mrtree1368 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh during that Era they did plenty with mario there were rpgs,fighting ,racing ,tennis and prolly somethin else I'm missing besides platforming
@ultra_magikarp3880
@ultra_magikarp3880 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I got too old to go to the strong museum that's when they start showing all the cool video game stuff
@thegingerfergs
@thegingerfergs 2 жыл бұрын
you’re never too old :)
@Nick0901
@Nick0901 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this. Rochester gang!
@mr.vidjagamez9896
@mr.vidjagamez9896 2 жыл бұрын
A full movement, 3D Mario FPS could be a lot of fun. Banjo-Tooie showed how to do a fun, kid-friendly shooter and Splatoon of course did it in 3rd person.
@andrewmartin917
@andrewmartin917 2 жыл бұрын
The Mario wrestling game should have happened, half the characters are in the best fighting game crossover and they can't use these skills in a game
@braydengraves4655
@braydengraves4655 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the animations in Spikers did look more violent than any seen in Smash.
@BlazeHeartPanther
@BlazeHeartPanther 2 жыл бұрын
@@braydengraves4655 Smash could be seen more as "over the top" violent action while Spikers looked like they were really inflicting pain on the other characters the way Waluigi stomped on Mario and Yoshi threw the other Yoshi to the ground XD
@Thekinggamelon
@Thekinggamelon 2 жыл бұрын
2:38 Pauline singing? Now I know where Nintendo got the idea of her singing at New Donk City.
@ro-337
@ro-337 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully someone eventually makes that Boo game, even if it’s not tied to Mario.
@TailsTube
@TailsTube 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "no one knows why" Yoshi's Cookie wasn't released on Wii U? It's obviously due to licensing issues with Bullet Proof Software, the same reason it was pulled from the Wii Virtual Console. Pretty odd for a video that seems so heavily researched otherwise.
@nalaxysketches8519
@nalaxysketches8519 2 жыл бұрын
I guess they reeeeally wanted to end this video anticlimactically as joke while sacrificing actual research on the game not being released.
@azgaflamazuk
@azgaflamazuk 2 жыл бұрын
"Repossessed by the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce" sounds so imposing! The CIBC as they're known here are just one of our big 5 banks.
@TheCartoonGamer8000
@TheCartoonGamer8000 2 жыл бұрын
Sheesh, I’m Canadian and I didn’t even realize that’s the bank they were talking about haha.
@thetoot9615
@thetoot9615 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 Same here
@mc.gemstone
@mc.gemstone 2 жыл бұрын
Man I really wish that Boo DS game would of happen. It looks really cute and I dig the style it was gonna go for.
@manoftheusajones5147
@manoftheusajones5147 2 жыл бұрын
I would've liked Mario Kart R to be released, due to Kamek being in it.
@polycube868
@polycube868 2 жыл бұрын
Mario Kart R was just Mario Kart 64 that looked a little different...you might be able to play a ROM hack of the early build on an emulator.
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 2 жыл бұрын
Why would a regular Magikoopa influence sales?
@polycube868
@polycube868 2 жыл бұрын
@@GabePuratekuta it wouldn't but Donkey Kong would
@mariajimenafigueroa233
@mariajimenafigueroa233 2 жыл бұрын
Super Mario Kart R is just a beta built of Mario Kart 64
@911delorean
@911delorean 2 жыл бұрын
20:57 The tone shift to SeaMan.
@ryanmgebhardt
@ryanmgebhardt 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working on a video covering every cancelled Mario game for about two months now. It's only about halfway done but man, I'm so gutted lol. I noticed nobody else had really made a video covering all of them, so I tried to jump on it. Obviously this is much better than what I could put together, and you guys dug some stuff up that I would never be able to. Great video! I'll finish mine still but man... If only I could edit faster. 😓😓
@ssjduelistDD
@ssjduelistDD 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be disparaged, you can still do your own take on it.
@MoonMillenniummon
@MoonMillenniummon 2 жыл бұрын
You can do your own take on the subject
@charliecharliewhiskey9403
@charliecharliewhiskey9403 2 жыл бұрын
Do it anyway man! Just because someone beats you to the punch doesn't mean you shouldn't release. Bring your own spin. Dig into press releases from the time or something. Edit: and if you're still worried, or discouraged, I suggest you watch the episode of South Park called "Simpsons Did It". In short, DYKG is always going to beat you to the punch because they've been making videos for AGES. So what? Do it anyway, these are all open topics. Edit2: I think I remember a few years ago CGP Grey uploaded a video and one of the VSauce channels immediately went "well dang we were working on the same topic". From what I saw, the viewers overwhelmingly wanted them to finish and release the video anyway. Consumers consume, and niche consumers consume niche consumables. More detailed videos are always in demand regardless of whether they've been done before. Hell I've watched three videos about the Famicom Disk System today and loved them all. Don't feel discouraged.
@FuzzballRenakitty
@FuzzballRenakitty 2 жыл бұрын
Just doooo it- do your own thing, there are hundreds of thousands of videos that cover either the same or similar topics as everything and anything- and those don't get any less love just because "Somebody else did it" ...it'll still get your experience going, your content out, and you'll still have accomplished something regardless!
@Luminarise
@Luminarise 2 жыл бұрын
You can differ if you dont go for just all facts. Add your touch to it and perhaps make it comedic. The fact that there is only this video and no one else taking a different way to talk about it leaves more opportunity than you think
@Level1Sword
@Level1Sword 2 жыл бұрын
"It never came out. No one knows why." 🤣
@misterzygarde6431
@misterzygarde6431 2 жыл бұрын
I really would’ve loved for Mario Kart 64 to have had more characters. It’d have been cool if Kamek was an unlockable character. 5:32 Nintendo was not exactly doing so hot in Europe. Makes me wonder what would’ve happened if they brought over the Famicom as is instead of the NES. 12:10 Croc and his cast could easily fit in the Mario universe Part of me thinks if Super Mario 64 2 came to be. It likely would’ve been ported to GameCube as to give players outside of Japan something to play while they worked on Sunshine.
@WilfredCthulu
@WilfredCthulu 2 жыл бұрын
Genius modders please: Do try recreating a lot of these. Love those things.
@DaNoob1485
@DaNoob1485 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I can’t believe you forgot Mario fries an egg deluxe with new funky mode on the Nintendo 3DS!. I was so disappointed when that got announced as canceled
@FuzzballRenakitty
@FuzzballRenakitty 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno I feel that the egg cracking mechanics would have been more suitable for the Wii at the time- but that's what you get I suppose!
@Chamberz55
@Chamberz55 2 жыл бұрын
11:20 imagine having your picture taken like this and saying “that’s the one!” 🧐
@collaterale1
@collaterale1 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the wrestling element for Spikers came from WWE Titans: Parts Unknown, another canceled game by Next Level.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
Such a comically anti-climatic end for Yoshi’s Cookie! XD
@walubenji7186
@walubenji7186 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s because I’m extremely tired or because I’m bored at work, but when you said “It never came out. Nobody knows why” in that deadpan tone it just made me crack up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 That cheered me up so thanks for that.
@maddestmike5791
@maddestmike5791 2 жыл бұрын
Now I feel bad that Haunt never got to be released.
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be, the Star of David Boos and the Crucified Boos kinda doomed it from the start.
@adirblazkowics7717
@adirblazkowics7717 2 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine how much different Nintendo would be if they actually accepted third-party developers putting effort into things to put their most famous games on PCs? We probably wouldn't have Nintendo claiming that joycon drift doesn't exist, that's for sure.
@notsyzagts7967
@notsyzagts7967 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese corporate culture is the main culprit. Slaves to tradition, unfortunately.
@Ivanegarcia
@Ivanegarcia 2 жыл бұрын
26:14 I think the reason why Yoshi’s Cookie was never released on the Wii U’s VC was because of licensing issues. Since that game was co-developed with Bullet-Proof Software. (Henk Rogers’ company)
@prestonmorey8189
@prestonmorey8189 Жыл бұрын
As of October 15th, Mario Kart XXL Demo is now online and available to "play!"
@lauriepenner350
@lauriepenner350 2 жыл бұрын
Was it common that designers would build a whole game using someone else's IP and only get permission afterwards? That can't be how it's done these days.
@tyrus1235
@tyrus1235 2 жыл бұрын
Some fans do that nowadays. Though it rarely, if ever, pays off. Like those devs who made a whole remake of the first Mortal Kombat trilogy and then pitched the project to Netherrealm Studios/Warner Games, only for them to drag their feet and then say "no".
@tjlnintendo
@tjlnintendo 2 жыл бұрын
It was done so they could show a demo as an example to the company to help a pitch.
@mizusenshi8172
@mizusenshi8172 2 жыл бұрын
They did release Yoshi's Cookie on Virtual Console for the original Wii. I know this because when the Internet Channel was made free, those who had paid for the channel (myself included) were offered one free Virtual Console game of their choice as compensation, and that was the game I chose to get.
@pikXpixelart
@pikXpixelart 2 жыл бұрын
This video just made me realize just how many random developers have a total misunderstanding of what Nintendo wants to do with Mario
@CarputingYT
@CarputingYT 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video thank you I love learning about the past video game things thay I didn't know before. You guys put a lot of effort into editing too I can tell.
@atre5763
@atre5763 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know? Mario will always be one of videogame's greatest legends!
@pacapprovedsomecrabmeat
@pacapprovedsomecrabmeat 2 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that, but Sonic and Pac-Man are up there as well.
@CLASSYTUXYFGA
@CLASSYTUXYFGA Жыл бұрын
​@@pacapprovedsomecrabmeatpacman isn't popular anymore
@pacapprovedsomecrabmeat
@pacapprovedsomecrabmeat Жыл бұрын
@@CLASSYTUXYFGA Yes he is, Pac-Man's a gaming icon, one of the reasons being that he was the first video game character to exist.
@nightshadehelis9821
@nightshadehelis9821 2 жыл бұрын
Could you (or anyone else) consider finding out what happened to the highly anticipated sequel to Kingdom Come, IceWallow Come? It looked downright incredible and extremely promising, and now it's like it never even existed.
@ChimpPeensRevunge
@ChimpPeensRevunge Жыл бұрын
why
@WqDnbY52l0
@WqDnbY52l0 2 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the future episode covering the music play cartridge
@Ronny1031
@Ronny1031 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the video shows Kevin Cloud and lists him as Adrian Carmack. Adrian is actually behind John Romero in the picture.
@johnclark926
@johnclark926 2 жыл бұрын
The Haunt game is definitely one of the weirdest entries. Honestly I like the combination of the Yoshi’s Island + Super Mario Sunshine artstyle, but it seems arbitrary to attach it to a Mario side character than just making an original franchise entirely. It’s like if Sega wanted to make a platformer with the Porcupo enemy from Super Mario Bros 2 instead of just making their own original blue hedgehog character, it seems absurdly risky to pitch an original game idea with an original art style and then try to loosely tie it to the Mario series for no reason. In fact, trying to tie in a Boo school that’s fighting off witches would only add more confusion and contradiction to the nightmare of the Mario canon, it would be easier to have it in a separate universe entirely. You wouldn’t even need to change the character designs, the Yoshi’s Island and Super Mario Sunshine designs for Boos haven’t been used in 26 and 19 years respectively, and no one is going to complain (or sue) that the ghost designs resemble the Boo designs that were specifically used in two games each and then never designed like that again. Also, I just realized how absurd it is that a game starring a Boo has been closer to getting their own game than Bowser, Daisy, and Waluigi ever have; at least the Boo game was pitched and had great concept art before it got scrapped, the latter ideas haven’t even been suggested!
@AmbrosiusAmaimon
@AmbrosiusAmaimon 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, a game like Haunt would probably do very well, with the increasing popularity of Boo that I've been seeing recently. Boo is a cute character, and this seems like a cute AU concept which I could see a lot of people getting hyped for. Especially since spooky/horror themes do really well in this day and age. That's just my opinion, though. I personally would have played it!
@naithungoal609
@naithungoal609 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmbrosiusAmaimon Though it's different, I see the complications that would arrive from OP's argument. Cuteness and character design is great for marketing, but those factors have very little to do with the flawed design concepts they were to utilize.
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
Haunt did have crucified boos. That probably had a hand in its cancellation.
@AmbrosiusAmaimon
@AmbrosiusAmaimon 2 жыл бұрын
@@primrosevale1995 Oh, I must have missed that detail, damn
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmbrosiusAmaimon They didn't include it in this video but they did show it in a previous video, where they called it a "Christmas Boo." There was also a Star of David-shaped Boo that used a menorah as a weapon.
@EsotericArcade
@EsotericArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video and the research that went into it!
@lyleabner2475
@lyleabner2475 2 жыл бұрын
Why'd you say seaman like that? At 20:57
@KremBotop
@KremBotop 2 жыл бұрын
Instantly reminded me of the Super Best Friends
@ericpeterson6520
@ericpeterson6520 2 жыл бұрын
In the style of their video a while back about whether Mario Party's dice are rigged, I'd love to see DYKG investigate the common claim that CPUs on higher difficulty settings get better rolls. People say that all the time, but personally I think it's just confirmation bias
@cvanims
@cvanims 2 жыл бұрын
Beginning of video: "...Nintendo declined it because they didn't want their IPs on non-Nintendo hardware." End of video, regarding Nintendo saying no Mario Kart on Tesla hardware: "...some had theorized that Nintendo said no because of safety reasons."
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
Safety reasons is bullshit because clearly the pitch says "whilst charging your Tesla", not "whilst driving your Tesla."
@donkeykong6426
@donkeykong6426 Жыл бұрын
@@ChaseMC215 I believe it would mean like a driver losing control and hitting the Tesla user for bad injury or death even if the driver was drunk or high maybe even mentally ill
@Notengoideasde
@Notengoideasde Жыл бұрын
maybe because nintendo was different when the mario bros 3 port was done than now???, its not that more than 20 years has passed...
@UndyingEnergy
@UndyingEnergy 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap it's crazy how much that Wario Pool cutscene resembles what would eventually be cutscenes for the WarioWare series.
@lemonadesnake
@lemonadesnake 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the car making feature was reimagined when they made Mario Kart 7
@demonthekid718
@demonthekid718 2 жыл бұрын
Nes Yoshi's Cookie never came out on the Wii U VC. The Fans: ............... what?
@TheLegoNation
@TheLegoNation 2 жыл бұрын
“Am I the only one who cares about that?”
@nonamelegend_vapor
@nonamelegend_vapor 2 жыл бұрын
I just can’t believe there was actually a game released called “3D Pocket Pool”
@SmashedTomatoes
@SmashedTomatoes 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way you pronounced "Seaman"
@WeeklyTubeShow2
@WeeklyTubeShow2 2 жыл бұрын
me too
@josefarias5216
@josefarias5216 2 жыл бұрын
Yoshi's Cookie never releasing on WiiU must be Scott's paralysis demon
@GatsuRage
@GatsuRage 2 жыл бұрын
pro tip: if u REALLY want it "safely preserved" put it into the internet.
@SUPERFunStick
@SUPERFunStick 2 жыл бұрын
I love the art for the boo game so much. I would've bought that game and whatever hardware it came out on if it looked like that. So awesome.
@lara3780
@lara3780 2 жыл бұрын
The only things that are left from co-op thing for Mario 64 are the assets for Luigi that seems to be more related to a late in development project since those were found in a iQue folder with SFX for future games like the Mario Advance series but other people says this dates from the beta development of the original Mario 64...
@NickGNight
@NickGNight 2 жыл бұрын
As a Rochestarian, always cool to hear about Strong Museum. The gaming section is so damn cool
@Nick0901
@Nick0901 2 жыл бұрын
Rochester gang!
@MTaxiSheep
@MTaxiSheep Жыл бұрын
Just imagine a first person shooter but with Mario characters….
@omegahaxors3306
@omegahaxors3306 2 жыл бұрын
"We found this leak from 4chan with no reputable information and no playable roms which contains a mario shooter in isle delphino" Quality journalism.
@TimeToGrind
@TimeToGrind 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video like always :)
@hajkie
@hajkie 2 жыл бұрын
"Nintendo rejected" comes up a lot.
@TigirlakaLaserwolf6
@TigirlakaLaserwolf6 2 жыл бұрын
2:53 I've gotta say, I can't think of a American character more ill-fitted to teaching kids English than Popeye. Having a bizarre speech pattern is like. 1/3 of his character
@angbald
@angbald Жыл бұрын
I donstk knowsk what yer zayin. Popeye taughts me skevery word I knowsk
@gblargg
@gblargg 2 жыл бұрын
4:19 "A cracked version of the Apple II port [of Mario Bros] was leaked in the '80s." Wow, so that version we played in school was never actually officially released.
@jdmcivilization5085
@jdmcivilization5085 2 жыл бұрын
Mario STRIKERS NEEDS TO MAKE A COMEBACK 💯💯💯
@David315842
@David315842 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, for once DYKG didn't resort to sponsorship!
@LowCountryMatt
@LowCountryMatt 2 жыл бұрын
So can we all agree that Wacky Worlds is actually incredible given what they could accomplish on CD-i hardware?
@hypercynic
@hypercynic 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the title is "Cancelled" but the thumbnail says "Canceled". Both are technically correct but weird to see two different spellings for one video lol I think "canceled" just looks weird, but to each their own. I'm Canadian so what the fuck do I know? We're almost as bad as the French lol
@TitansTracks
@TitansTracks 2 жыл бұрын
A second backup game was also made with 2 original characters: Heavy and Metal - oh cool like Rock and Roll... hey wait a minute 🤔
@ADAMAT1C
@ADAMAT1C 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like most of these games are 3rd parties making demos with Mario characters and pitching them to Nintendo and then getting rejected.
@EpicEmberOriginal
@EpicEmberOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
Wacky Worlds is a surprisingly great idea
@CLASSYTUXYFGA
@CLASSYTUXYFGA Жыл бұрын
I wanna recreate it
@EpicEmberOriginal
@EpicEmberOriginal 11 ай бұрын
@@CLASSYTUXYFGA go ahead! Don’t let your dreams be dreams
@mikauseafox948
@mikauseafox948 2 жыл бұрын
It's hypocritical for Nintendo to reject the idea of Mario Spikers on the basis that it's "too violent" when they have the Super Smash Bros. franchise.
@legendofryan96
@legendofryan96 2 жыл бұрын
and strikers for the wii is just as bad
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын
Smash's throws are cartoony and extremely over the top. Spikers throws look like professional wrestling throws, which *HURT.*
@ThisIsCSDX
@ThisIsCSDX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no, Elon didn't found Tesla. Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning did.
@kaitoudark1
@kaitoudark1 2 жыл бұрын
Typical DYK gaming practice. Only half researched. They're great for combing through for bits of info, but there's usually a lot wrong. At least they properly cite their sources, which is more than most people do!
@ThisIsCSDX
@ThisIsCSDX 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaitoudark1 They make one mistake and suddenly they're as unreliable as Fox News for the rest of their existence? Tf kinda logic is that?
@TheItalianoAssassino
@TheItalianoAssassino Жыл бұрын
"Breathe into your DS to severely disturb your friends in Pictochat"
@viberunners5118
@viberunners5118 Жыл бұрын
1:02 That's so dope! I've never seen that! Could you do a video on Koopa Troopa's Forest and how it evolved to what looks like Zelda Link to the past?!
@adrian_hook
@adrian_hook Жыл бұрын
“ FOOTAGE BY KZbin USER ‘SNL’ “ I love that
@psylencecy
@psylencecy 2 жыл бұрын
@20:57 lol what is that change in tone :D
@DaffyToons
@DaffyToons 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime i look at that Mario Render from the SM64 2's Cartridge, i can't stop thinking about Mario demanding me to give him my liver
@BRD-Senpai
@BRD-Senpai 2 жыл бұрын
guess that’s why it was scrapped
@bookid1581
@bookid1581 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still very upset about the boo game being cancelled :(
@BalticoYT
@BalticoYT 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, Nintendo worried that Tesla owners would crash their cars mid-game. Whilst charging... their car... Something that you can’t do whilst driving...
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
I guess Nintendo was smoking too much weed to realise the fine print.
@TheirWisecrackingUncle
@TheirWisecrackingUncle 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be able to say "3D Pocket Pool" without laughing.
@aliceangel03
@aliceangel03 2 жыл бұрын
Omg CROC I LOVED this game growing up! Honestly one of my favourite PS1 games!
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