EFAP TV: Reacting to Ahsoka S01E03 - Time to Fly

This would be one of the "skippable" episodes where we got some busy work to do. You can find enjoyment in the colours and the uhh, the... characters?
Edited by Fringy

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

*I find it hilarious that intelligence slightly above average is SUCH a superpower in the Disney canon universe that our protagonists regard Thrawn’s return as an apocalyptic level threat.*

[@randomdude185]

To be fair, slightly above OUR average seems to be several levels of magnitudes better than most of people in Modern Star Wars.

[@xel1673]

It's kind of like Idiocracy. Only the average MC with some common sense goes villain. Thrawn will tell everyone to stop watering their crops with Brawndo and it will be revolutionary.

[@castlesandcuriosities]

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. In the case it's "in the land of the stupid, the mediocre is king"

[@SuperMegaGaelourde]

"My god the tests came back and sir... Thrawn-" "Has the highest midichlorian count we've ever seen? Yes we worried about this." "No sir... It appears he's NOT retarded." "My god....... Quick do something not retarded to stop this!" "I'm trying! Sir I don't know how!"

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

@@SuperMegaGaelourde “At this rate, we won’t have the combined intelligence to stop him before he conquers the galaxy!“ “Speak Basic, doctor! We can’t understand your big words!”

[@Arko777777]

Remember guys, Lightsabers can slice fighters in one blow, but can't kill Sabine because reasons.

[@mellowgeekstudio]

it slices fighters but cauterizes organic matter, lol

[@matthewcollins4773]

Fighters don't even have one stomach, of course they're super vulnerable to lightsabres.

[@mellowgeekstudio]

@@matthewcollins4773 Also no one was there to give the fighters immediate proper medical attention, just like what happened to Qui-Gon.

[@chrisb4131]

Excuse me it's easily explained. A shit ton of plot armor.

[@SuperMegaGaelourde]

Star Wars Episode 47- "And you see, Han Solo died because he wouldn't get his stomach replaced with machines and become a cyborg. He was a very bad robot racist, and luckily by the 5th trilogy that bigotry was deleted from the SWCU with the death of Mando at the hands of Darth Jar Jar"

[@JLongbone]

I hope people don't determine Rosario Dawson's overall acting ability from Ahsoka. She's truthfully an excellent actress (see her performance in Decent, but be warned it gets really messed up in the last twenty minutes) Disney literally sucks the talent from anyone they work with.

[@danielliew8698]

Yeah, you can see Ray and Rosario trying to make the most out of a shit and bare-bones script.

[@ThomasTheLuckyGamer]

What's funny is I thought Pedro Pascal was a bad actor because of the Mandalorian. Then I saw clips of him from Wonder Woman 1984 and The Last of Us and was like "What is Disney doing to these actors?!?!"

[@8ligh7]

The directing and writing is sucking the acting out of them. Impressive really, for a show that's supposed to be peak Star Wars.

[@therealfakecaptain7978]

So you might say she was decent in Descent.

[@loyalcompanion2104]

She was also great in the Marvel netflix shows

[@auxityne]

Thrawn: has a brain cell Current Star Wars: that makes him the apocalypse

[@MarcioGianotti]

that's more braincells than the writers of modern Disney

[@OG-ColorfulAbyss.]

I mean, it's not much to begin with but Palpatine only had one more brain cell than the entire Jedi order combined, so 🤷‍♂

[@SuperMegaGaelourde]

Its like Dave Filoni got so used to writing the Clone Wars, he wrote every Ahsoka episode to be 20 minutes long and they had to fill the time in with standing, staring, and slowly walking

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

He wrote the entire Season like a 20 minute episode, and then stretched it out over a half dozen half hour episodes, filling in the rest with Looooooong drawn out scenes of slow walking, slow establishing Scenes (not shots, SCENES) And slow, pensive and ponderous dialogue that says absolutely nothing. I should make a clip show of Still images that tell a better story than this series ^.-.^

[@DawidKov]

_He never wrote Clone Wars_ There were actual writers on that show. Filoni was only the supervising director. The episodes he has writing credits for (a total of 10) are either shitty ones that the fans didn't like, or ones where he uses already written material but reshuffles it to fit the revived 7th season.

[@nananamamana3591]

@@DawidKov That's not quite fair. He did, in fact, write about 2 episodes. He also is credited as "additional lines" for 11 more.

[@Pompadour_Pug]

**The Clone Wars** not the **Clone Wars** Don't drag the good show into the trash that is 2008 and onwards Star Wars.

[@DawidKov]

@@Pompadour_Pug The "good" show had no less garbage in it than the "trash" one, and yet both were considered by Lucas to be a single continuous story. Dirge and the ground stomping machine were almost as stupid as some of the stuff in Disney's shows.

[@andrewhaywood531]

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." -Dark Helmet

[@matthewcollins4773]

These people equip their retrieval droids with thermonuclear bombs but their fighter craft are armed with pea shooters. They have very odd priorities.

[@mellowgeekstudio]

They should have thrown droids at the ship.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@mellowgeekstudioOr chairs. 🪑

[@8ligh7]

They should have just used the self destruct droids as missiles.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@8ligh7 And put hyperspace engines on it too as just a f*** you to the audience.

[@nicholaskinkaid]

The show (especially Dave Filoni) does not know how to be *consistent* for literally anything. Not with light sabers, weapons, healing, defenses, force powers, ships and not even with something as simple as military ranks. 🤦‍♂ The rank of General is supposed to represent something of significance in one episode, then in the next episode it's fking worthless! Those troops that followed her did so out of loyalty, that's it! Dumbest fking writing. And I know they're making the Republic incompetent in order for the ST to happen.....but they don't realize they're making the new republic incompetent so freakin much that it makes NO sense that they were even able to GET into the position of power. Even with the emperor defeated, the empire would have still been able to kick the mentally retarded republics ass everywhere that Luke wasn't at. Seriously, with the way this republic is structured, the most realistic outcome with the empires defeat would have been intergalactic faction warfare, with the new republic being one of those factions. Similar to the Warhammer universe.............in fact, since the emperor didn't actually die, the Sequel Trilogy should have been REALLY fking similar to Warhammer. That would have actually have been badass!

[@happynihilist2573]

This show pissed Mauler off so hard he made a vid on it before he even finished the efap tv episodes

[@EpicJasonX9000]

Not since TROS did we get such a critique video from Mooler on Stuh Worts.

[@fenixsantos4117]

And not to mention made the trending pages on YT.

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

And got some E-thot mad at him for being right on the money.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@lordofthepizzapie9319Which one? Want to see who got their jimmies rustled .

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

@@Lobsterwithinternet I don't remember who it was but I know MauLer talked about it on this weeks Open Bar and Real BBC.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

"Alright, we have 4 or 5 main characters on this ship, we are fine!" - Family Guy.

[@mauthful]

Jedi training these days seems to be: "Listen - isn't whistling wonderful? Now, you do it." "How?" "Start small." Master Jedi walks away, possibly with a smirk.

[@axiss5840]

'I remain untaught'

[@HerohammerStudios]

To be fair, that's not far off from how it was in A New Hope

[@Phoenix0F8]

To snap your fingers, first feel the force flowing through you and understand the connection of all living things

[@Pangora2]

@@HerohammerStudios Back in A New Hope Luke was just along for the ride. It wasn't like Ben intended to make Luke a full Jedi by the time of the Death Star. "Here's some neat ways to think about The Force while we're en route to our destination." I assume formal training with more time would look different.

[@mrshmuga9]

I had crappy college professors better than that. At least playing a KZbin video for a “lesson” means I learned _something_ from somebody, lol.

[@matthewcollins4773]

Senator: You just want to find your friend. That's your real motive. You care about your friends, not the big picture. Hera: Thrawn isnt like other Imperials... HE KILLED MY FRIENDS. Good job, Hera. 🙄

[@tabull8180]

She was (apparently) actively trying to not make them agree. And succeeding in her attempts.

[@cozypilgrim8530]

So, I'm guessing other imperials haven't killed her friends?

[@tabull8180]

@@cozypilgrim8530 She probably only had like two friends with that personality

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

@@cozypilgrim8530given how absolutely ineffective the Imperial weapons are, I’m surprised the Empire managed to kill Anyone… Heck, I’m surprised that the Death Star Laser didn’t just miss Alderaan…

[@datzfatz2368]

@@tabull8180 She had like 7-8 friends iirc, and her personality was quite different and much more endearing in the Show she came from. Filoni cant even keep his own Characters in Character anymore, maaan^^

[@Zemnith]

Remember when people were defending Luke in the last jedi by saying "what was he suppose to do go out there and fight the ATATs himself" I wonder if those same people think its amazing how Ahsoka wins a lightsaber duel versus a freaking spaceship

[@corruptangel6793]

I still wonder if that's a reference to the Dark Empire comics where Luke does exactly that. Ryan Johnson showed that he knew about and looked into the original lore. Which is ironic considering he ignored and / or basterdized so much of it... and it wasn't canon anymore.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

Those same people thought it was amazing when Rey was pulling off amazing feats left and right, so there was never any consistency there.

[@atomicdancer]

"You think what? I'm gonna jump around on the outside of a spaceship with a laser sword and face down the whole First Order?"

[@ScooterDoge]

No, those people don’t like Disney Star Wars. They hate George Lucas.

[@hassathunter2464]

You know like the people that said "EU is bad cause Palpetine lives." cheered TROS on?

[@treethoown6414]

Seeing Mon Mothma from Andor in this show legit feels like sacrilage.

[@chuckleshelicopterwigwamjo6305]

It hurt me a little

[@nagger8216]

Agreed, I just can't suspend my disbelief to the point I'm actually convinced these two shows are in the same universe, I can't do it

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

Imagine if Ahsoka used the Force to send one ship crashing into its neighbor. Imagine if she used the Force to stop the ships’ blaster fire, which is canon as of the sequel trilogy. Now realize that she decided to engage in melee with the enemy ships, and they agreed to her challenge despite having long range superiority.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

That's too OP even for Darth Vader (well, not Disney Darth Vader)...

[@nobleman9393]

Or something less retarded, like Ahsoka slowing down a fighter with telekinesis and Sabine destroying it.

[@Soridan]

All the bad guys had to do is relentlessly fire from multiple stationary angles.

[@Tiltigo]

The idea of Sabine actually being force sensitive is to me hilarious because in a video that efap covered about cosmonaut variety hour a long while ago, he actually called it. He said something about how mary-sue she is and that he wouldn't be surprised if she turned out to also be force sensitive.

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

At the end of Mauler’s Last Jedi review, he gave a purposely silly explanation to prove the limits of rational acceptance: Luke landing on a star wearing a nappie and all that. We’ve reached the point where Ahsoka sliced a star fighter in twain using a lightsaber. And fans accept that. *“Rational acceptance” to modern Star Wars fans is a myth.*

[@jimmyjohnson501]

It'd be easier to swallow if Sabine didn't take a deep stab wound that only hurt her as much as a toddler swinging a baseball bat

[@xentiment6581]

Am I the only one who find it funny that she frezzes in position instead of landing her strike? Like it takes more muscle function to hold a saber up than letting it fall down, and for some reason the bad girl waits for 5 seconds instead of immediately pulling out and bouncing. Its a tumor on the methaporical brain of the stroytelling.

[@PANCAKEMINEZZ]

"B-But that's stuff like they always do in the Filloni Clone Wars show!"

[@johnnycrown5097]

15:30 what you guys are missing is that the chinese man is right... Okay, we found empire loyalists in nevada, why the hell do we need to go to south Dakota so investigate somewhere else she thinks they might be doing something in and why us thrawn the number one concern rather than empire loyalists inside the government??? Hera is making thrawn her most important target because ezra vanished with him to another galaxy (because star wars didn't want to get rid of such enticing villain so they kept him in a fridge, western comic book style because nothing ever dies in this forsakened universe)... Hera being so focused on thrawn is for personal reasons... Something unbecoming of a general... How did disparu get this immediately and you smarter veterans couldn't??? Maybe it might be a good idea to use that pause button that you guys always forget you have, you know, like your name suggests, rather than talk over scenes sbd talk really fast and short so you don't miss the next scene, like freaking reaction channels... Or just do what you did with falcon and the winter soldier (my favorite efap episode by the way) and watch everything first and talk about them after with notes and bullet points... No??? We're just going to be even less effective than twitch channels??? Okay then... This is just a let's watch together stuff isn't it, goddamnit...

[@arkoa0000]

​@@johnnycrown5097Stop spammin the same dumb text that doesn't even make sense to answer to the comment

[@majomajo1835]

This episode's star ship 'battle' was the most unintentionally funny stuff since four-legged Kenobi...

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

You mean ‘The Hunchback of Fortress Inquisitorious’?

[@sammoore2082]

I've never seen four-legged Kenobi, but at least that sounds like it pays respect to physics.

[@xentiment6581]

Pay respect to physics but not to basic intelligence

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

I will correct MauLer. This is the *second* time someone has defeated a spaceship with a lightsaber in live-action Star Wars. Rey did it in Episode 9 when Ben Solo tried to run her over with an Imperial ship just to have Rey cut one of the wings off. I dont remember the exact moment I concluded that episode 9 was hot garbage while watching it, but that was certainly a death nail.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

I think by this point, like with all traumatic experiences, he's purposely bloted out any memory of ROS to preserve his sanity.

[@tabull8180]

I remember Rey only dodging Ben's ship, but maybe I'm misremembering. Thats already bs though.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@tabull8180 She actually slices off one of the wings of the TIE as she flips over it.

[@tabull8180]

@@Lobsterwithinternet Luckily I never watched the film in whole. I'm sure nobody now or then in the writing room asked any mechanics about how any of this would work. Even if your lightsaber instantly vaporized the spaceship wing to gas, the momentum of the gas would be enough to send one flying in space.

[@DisplayThisOkay]

Yeah Rey sliced off a wing the ship crashes/explodes but Kylo is totally fine in the next scence we see him in and they even repair the ship cuz Rey steals it later on.

[@DSKekaha]

I laughed so hard when Mauler said "maybe she bypassed the compressor..." 🤣😂🤣

[@silastipton9982]

“Okay, here are my options” A) Park at any part of the ship that Ashoka isn’t on and start blasting B) Get a self destruct droid and park it next to the ship Or C) Fly towards Ashoka and die

[@numerouscolours]

The WHOLE point of a flak shell, is that even if you don't score a direct hit, the shrapnel from the blast will shred through the airframe AND the people and equipment inside. What kind of shrapnel are you going to get from a pissing laser?!

[@systmerr9445]

Also, flak shells are set to explode at certain ranges based on how high the planes are expected to fly at, yet here we see the plasma somehow consistently exploding next to their ship despite them constantly getting closer.

[@EpicJasonX9000]

We’ve reached a point where chainsaws are far more effective at cutting people, than lightsabers.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

But only when wielded by baddies against Title characters. ‘Good guys” lightsabers slice through Battle Droids, Blue Collar workers and Spaceships like butter.

[@13JackDiamond]

You don't understand... you missed the part where they pressed the big red button on their saber that sets it to stun. They want to make sure they don't kill our heroes because.... um.

[@fishjones4618]

If 9/11 has shown us anything, it’s that box cutters and far more effective and destructive than lightsabers.

[@EpicJasonX9000]

@@13JackDiamond tell it to the big guy with a skinned mask who will eat these characters for a Texas bbq!

[@EpicJasonX9000]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon Leatherface disagrees.

[@O0kala]

Fringy made a great point when he compared previous lightsaber battles with today's versions. They used to have real consequences, and now they've become somewhat commonplace with nerfed consequences.

[@petriew2018]

people remember the battles from Previous Star Wars because they served a purpose in the plot. Important stuff was said, character developed, plot progressed Nobody remembers the fights from Disney Wars because they are perfunctory, they happens because star wars needs lightsaber fights, because nobody (and i mean nobody) left at Lucasfilm understands Star Wars.

[@HalfBrainGamers]

Hell, even the fights in Fallen Order/Survivor had consequences Like Cal's fight with the Fifth(?) Sister both times had consequences It's funny that fights in these Disney+ series have none, if any barely.

[@taddad2641]

i will say that its isn't necesarily 'consequences' and more 'is some form of progress or reveal.' quigon fought maul briefly during phantom menace, and establishes his strength and danger, which leads into his fate of dying against maul when forced to fight him one on one.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

Fringy never makes any good points

[@attigator]

It started with Clone Wars

[@madookamagooka743]

being surrounded by consoomer mentality 24\7 makes these videos all the more healing to my brain.

[@geoffshaw2775]

For real. When I question things I'm looked at as being crazy. "It's Star Wars, it's not real"

[@Bonesawisready926]

@@geoffshaw2775 The consoomers are literally trying to strike Maulers channel too. Anytime people try to tell me "It's Star Wars, it's not real" or just have fun, I just say "sorry I give a fuck". There is plenty of entertainment out there that respects your intelligence, you don't need Fallopian wars.

[@The90sDoggo]

Yeah i am tired of consoomers too! XD

[@nobleman9393]

​@@Bonesawisready926 Or "Then write something better if you can" it's so tiring.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

right efap selling plushies? consooming nah lmao

[@martoncsepregi7099]

So THIS is why Palpatine was evil, I get it now! He was old. very, very, very old.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

And BAAAALLD ^.-.^

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

​@@Beuwen_The_Dragon He had some hair...

[@SolarDragon007]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon Darth Malak, Darth Sion, Darth Malgus, Darth Bane, and Darth Vader, ALL BAAAAALD 🤔

[@jedibrooks7235]

No idea how you have gone 3 episodes without calling Her Darth Alice. Looks just like crazy batgirl chick

[@paleface171]

Glad I am not the only one who saw that.

[@TheGhostLegend001]

She’s not as cringe as Alice, yet. That’s a title she has to earn lol.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

Rags did in this episode though

[@-Gurza-]

Does she look a bit cross-eyed to anyone else?

[@alexhayden219]

I never had that thought, myself, but I saw someone on Twitter say something like "What did Alice even do by the end of this season?" and it made total sense to me. I was half convinced that it might even have been her name on the show.

[@beltfed]

Ahsoka - "I'm going out there." Rags - "To do a repair, like an EVA?" Mauler - "ummm.."

[@Archphoenix1]

just a reminder, general leya is alive at this point in time. Yodas ghost is available and han solo is out there too.

[@randomdude185]

Is like they have forgotten the time line, Leia, Luke and Han are all dead for several years now in real life; but at this point in the story all three are alive and active.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Well Leia is apparently covering them in the Senate in episode 5...

[@729060]

The worst part about this in comparison to the TIE fighter escape in ANH is the first words out of Leia's mouth afterwords is "they let us escape". There by setting up that the only reason why Luke and friends won is because the empire wanted them to.

[@lunaticred0]

I find it funny that Dave Filoni took writing tips from Major Lee by implying that everybody can be a fucking Jedi now if they just “train enough”.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Well, technically, everyone has The Force flowing through them and a few can get ‘hunches’ from the Force without even realizing it like Han Solo. But it's rare for anyone to have a connection strong enough to move a thimble, no matter how hard they try.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@zibilacoste5 There's a huge difference between having the Force and utilizing it. Obit-Wan says in A New Hope that it is an energy field that flows through all living things. But only some beings can feel it and even fewer can make it do things. And it's exceedingly rare for someone to be strong enough to be a Jedi. If everyone had the same capability with the force as a Jedi with training, nearly the entire galaxy would be populated by Force Wielders and it wouldn't look anything like the Star Wars universe we see in the shows or films.

[@MakkenziKreiga]

Whenever I see the nightsister I think, "Your entire people were genocided by Sidious and by this point the galaxy knows Palpatine and Sidious were the same person. She is currently endeavoring to find and team up with a former admiral of Palpatine's empire. So what is happening here and will this ever be addressed?" [Check replies. People make appropriate corrections.]

[@randomperson-up5vt]

nothing will be address or will it make sense if they tried.

[@zeke4083]

I thought dooku killing them was independent of palpatine and because the witches betrayed dooku

[@saberknight2474]

I don’t think the connection between Palpatine and the CIS was ever drawn, at least publicly. Oh, hey! That’s an interesting idea, why not have a show about the unraveling of that plot after the fall of the empire! The detangling of Sidious’s web. It could present a set of conflicting interests regarding what information gets released and why! That could be fun to watch. But then again, Disney. Yeah, just forget I said anything.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

They were genocided by Dooku, and he did it without Sidious's orders. Nobody knows Sidious controlled both sides.

[@MakkenziKreiga]

Okay. Double checked and I think I know what I got wrong. Mother Talzin who committed the nightsisters in a vendetta against the Sith never told the nightsisters the Sith were their enemies. This might sound dumb however that would fit the character and story perfectly. After all, this is a character who tried to assassinate one of the greatest lightsaber duelists with lightsaber duelists instead of using force voodoo magic he's powerless to stop and kill him from across the galaxy. If she was dumb enough for that I concede she's dumb enough to never reveal the greatest secret of Palpatine, who she hated, even after openly moving against the Sith in attempting to assassinate Dooku. So even though the crazy witches are literally the one group that should know the Palpatine connection and could be dismissed in universe as crazy witches they don't because Talzin never told anyone else at any point for any reason.

[@dontswitchoff607]

Notice the android piloting the space ring? I wonder if there's ever been a time a droid could have piloted a different ship so a curtain purple haired general wouldn't have died.

[@TheArchivistArchive]

Indeed. I didn't know she was a curtain though.

[@tabull8180]

In star wars, they are pushing sentient droids to have as strong "human rights" as humanoid creatures, so sacrificing android = sacrifising purple hair lady. Shouldn't be a thing

[@petriew2018]

i mean, i would complain.... but it did rid us of the worst character to come out of Disney so far... heavy emphasis of 'so far'....

[@hassathunter2464]

Yeah, but remember it's one in a million, the wench just wanted to live.

[@whitworth5s248]

6:30 - Funny they specifically mention here that Ahsoka has like zero drama or character development through the entire show, considering how episode 5 just decides spontaneously that she has to be full of conflict and self-doubt. 11:40 - I love how the Sabine actress who looks like she's 100 lbs soaking wet randomly puts on 20 lbs of muscle every camera angle where she swings the sword and her face is conveniently covered. 13:38 - It drives me nuts that none of Hera's actual friends have asked about Jason yet, but fucking Mon Mothma who should be all business is like, "Let's have small talk. Haha, oh, that Chopper sure is a scamp, isn't he?" Chit-chat dialogue like this should be reserved for literally any character in the show but Mon Mothma. 17:35 - They were so preoccupied with 'Bad News Bears'ing Sabine to make her likeable that they forgot that there's absolutely no reason why Ahsoka would want to train her over an actual force-sensitive character like Jason, who is a child and the appropriate age for being a Padawan. Sabine is canonically in her 30s by this point, far older than Luke was when Yoda said he was too old to learn. And she already has a skill. It would be like pulling Simu Hayha aside in WW2 and training him in the medieval art of jousting. You'd actually be doing more harm than good by wasting his time and reducing the Soviet soldiers he could be killing instead. The only reason Ahsoka would ever waste her time on this character at this exact point would be if she were sexually attracted to her and making it all up to try to seduce her. 23:15 - The only time in this show any of these characters emotes in any way other than a smirk. 31:40 - It's just like how you can put 7 engines in a Ford Mustang and it can suddenly break the sound barrier and drive around the planet, right?

[@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish]

The hyperspace ring also ignores the fact that you need something to power those engines in the first place.

[@FollowMe1789]

It's really bizarre how a 30-year old war hero and active Commander in the New Republic military is presented as a wet-nosed rookie with no experience.

[@8ligh7]

Filoni's writing sure is amazing... if you're a lobotomized consoomer.

[@ten-finger]

...She's in her 30's and she acts like that? Jesus Christ, talk about stunted development...

[@8ligh7]

As the legend Anakin Skywalker said "this is where the fun begins".

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

​@@Amarenamann In death.

[@ianjohnson182]

There's a scene from the Clone Wars show where Anakin is leading a squadron of Y-wings through a smuggling shortcut called the Balmora Run, and he and his men were flying around with a whole bunch of big space creatures inside of a nebula. It wasn't great, but it was better than this, and it was part of a small character arc that Anakin was having. So Filoni is now copying himself, and doing worse at it than he did the first time. Shocking, I know.

[@matane2465]

He was already copying himself. TCW had a Seven Samurai episode, Season 1 of Mando had a Seven Sanurai episode.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Fouth time, this also was in Rebels and in Solo (giant octopus in space).

[@ianjohnson182]

@@matane2465 omg, I forgot about that mando episode. I remember TCW episode with the farmers and the bounty hunters, though. Would the episode with the Lermin count as a Seven Samurai episode as well?

[@slowjoe0485]

For anyone who has trouble paying attention to Ahsoka because they find it boring, here's a fun little game, count how many times Shin (The emo dark jedi girl) blinks.

[@sammoore2082]

... ... ... ... ... ...does she?

[@slowjoe0485]

@@sammoore2082 She doesn't, that's why it'll keep your attention because you'll be trying to see if she does the whole episode

[@sammoore2082]

@@slowjoe0485 thank you. Tldw.

[@nobody2996]

"It was insane, Master. None of our laser blasts did any damage to her ship, we outnumbered her 3-to-1, her ship was disabled and defencless and she still beat us." "How is this possiable?" "She came out onto the ship's wing and dueled us in spa-" "You're on the death sticks again, aren't you?" "I can hear all the colours of the force, Master! They're telling me I'll die if I ever blink again!"

[@slowjoe0485]

@@nobody2996 Wouldn't be surprised if Filoni makes her a death stick addict in canon, it would suit her her edgy emo-like design to be on a drug that literally has death in it's name. He probably thinks that'd add to her cool factor

[@armoredghost918]

What really sucks is that about half the Rebels cast is just not in the show (even as of episode 6). 1) You have Zeb who was the furry purple guy who made a cameo in Mando S3. He was the muscle of the group and was ezra's best friend. 2)Agent Kallus who was the main antagonist of the first couple of Rebel's seasons and a high ranking empire soldier under the command of Thrawn. He eventually defected and joined the rebellion. 3) and then you have Commander Rex who is an old clone trooper who was under the command of Anakin and Ahsoka. Ahsoka and Rex were very good friends. Ahsoka freed him from order 66 by cutting out his behavior chip. They reunited near the middle of rebels and he was a mainstay of the cast. As of ep5 he has had one voiceline cameo. I have no clue why these 3 characters aren't being utilized or even just mentioned as all of them are extremely important to Ahsoka, Ezra, Sabine and Hera and would be heavily invested in getting ezra back and preventing thrawn's return. They even have Temura Morisan who is now the same age range Rex is supposed to be so why wouldn't he tag along with ahsoka? Although, given the quality of the show and what they've done to Ahsoka, Hera, and Sabine I'm actually glad they aren't in the show.

[@Goodheartless]

You could’ve had cool scenes of Kallus having other imperials chastising him for his defection

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Rex would be 82 biologically at the time, so he is most likely dead.

[@EroNekoKun]

Because the force is female, that's why.

[@eidolon1426]

Yeah, I've been thinking about where all these other characters are supposed to be, and *why* the writers chose to not have them involved in this story, and while I tend to make a habit of avoiding the fuck out of the painfully cringe political angle of modern Disney... I can't deny that the only conclusion I've been able to come to that even *begins* to explain why *those* characters *aren't* here, but all *these* characters *are* here... Is because *those* characters (theoretically, in Zeb's case) have testicles and penises... Like, I really have gone through an *exhaustive* list of alternative explanations, and this is the one that lines up the most. Looks like the cringe political angle probably is the correct angle this time, as far as I can currently tell. There's simply not enough to work with for any *other* explanation to work.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@eidolon1426 Because Zeb requires spending money on CGI.

[@collingreen9517]

No wonder the spitfires weren’t draining the shields, they’re apparently equipped with water pistols.

[@davidmendez3899]

kinda funny that they probably would’ve “believed” her more if they just waited to do things normally. check/disarm the robot head with a team of professionals. actually take some back-up to the shipyard. allowed to take a fleet to stop the bad guys. plus, this just shows that she was full of it when she said nothing was classified to her. she barely seems to have any pull at all. I’m sure it’s gonna be revealed that one of those guys is secretly evil but still, it’s annoyingly structured. you could still have drama the way I said it. ”Thrawn” “disappearing” apparently just means he’s not a problem. guess that’s consistent with “Darth Moff” and “which sista” being ignored when they get “lost”.

[@patrioticcat5768]

Instead of being smart they gave the,not so seriously wounded purple hair, girl a bomb to disarm in a hospital.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

In this episode we see ‘general” Tentacle head casually chat with Monmothma about family matters, During a Meeting with Busy Galactic Senators. She provides zero evidence of potential Imperial schemes which her lackluster operations uncovered, and we witness her emotional outburst of insults toward a skeptical Senator, and openly admitting her hunt for Thrawn being personal because she lost friends in the war.. Between this, her careless conduct that endangered a major Hospital, her clear disregard for Procedure and protocol at the shipyard, her casual abuse of authority to bypass an official Inspection, and flaunting her rank in an attempt to intimidate a blue collar worker into breaking Classified Security Procedures, I fully understand why the Senators have so little trust in her. What I DINAE understand is Why she has the trust of her Crew when she seems about as competent as any other New Republic officers… Who’ve to date ALL been shown to be absolutely incompetent. How she ever made to be a General when I wouldn’t trust her to command a Kitchen Patrol, I’ll never understand. ^.-.^

[@vadandrumist1670]

I'm suprised no mention was brought up about how effortlessly she cut off the wing of that fighter. The shear size of it is one thing, but I remember how in Phantom Menace it was slow going cutting through the doors at the beginning of the movie where her cut happened in an instant. And shouldn't those ships have had shields, or is it just a rule that all baddie ships can be one-shot even if the most important members of their team are willing to risk using them. I guess they know plot armor is the only armor worth having.

[@papapalps2415]

I'm not really sure comparing capital ship scale blast doors meant to resist internal explosions is really a good comparison to fighter scale armor plating.

[@tabull8180]

@@papapalps2415 But how about comparing fighter laser cannon in strenght to laser sword? In term of shields and/or structural damage.

[@papapalps2415]

@@tabull8180 I'm not really sure how you would compare that, seeing how fighters don't tend to resist fighter scale cannons very well, and we rarely see them fire in visual media in a way that can be compared to a saber.

[@hassathunter2464]

But... they aren't strong enough to kill a person! Oh wait, a point for you, huh?

[@skikkedoo]

If only there was a RECORDING of the new Sith / Dark Jedi breaking out the space Karen so Hera could have really easy and concrete evidence to convince the Council of dummies. **Episode 1 of the series begins to sweat nervously**

[@StalkerQtya]

I remember when in the first Clone Wars season Plo Koon going out into space to fight a few droids in order to save his disabled escape pod was really fucking cool. Now we got to this. Also, just to remind you, in the same plot, the CIS was able to detect Anakin's ship by picking up the signal of a droid on-board... Here they just couldn't.

[@Dave_L913]

I appreciate Rags's's comment on "General" Hera's uniform. I hate it with a ...well, not passion since I don't really care that much, but I do hate it generally. Also, Ahsoka's space ballet looked really cheap, like they clipped out a still image and rotated it around a couple of times.

[@ewokadventure5402]

I hate how they treat Thrawn. In the books, he was just originally this guy that even the Empire didn't seem to know about. He just kind of arrived to help out the Imperial remnants and THAT's when people discovered what kind of a tactician he is. There was no "search for Thrawn" or any of this shit

[@DawidKov]

Well not exactly. He was still one of the few aliens in Imperial service, and a Grand Admiral, but he was posted in the Unknown Regions, so he was one of the only high ranking leaders to survive the Empire's defeat. Then he comes back from the Regions, sees the fuck up of the Imperial remnants, and assumes control. Kinda Admiral Kolchak style, where the remnants of the Russian White Army were disorganized, and Kolchak managed to bring some sort of unity to the cause.

[@matane2465]

You never played the Tie Fighter PC game.

[@danielliew8698]

And when he appears stormtroopers chant his name and the scene is presented in a grand way as if people are expected to already know this character. But it falls flat because Thrawn is being presented with a fan's understanding of the character rather than just being a character in universe.

[@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish]

@@danielliew8698 Pretty much all of Filoni's live action ventures hinge entirely on the audience having meta knowledge of characters involved, Thrawn is the most blatant example because he's really just some random admiral in the Disney canon and doesn't warrant having anywhere near this level of importance.

[@danielliew8698]

@@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish He's so blatantly lazy and uncreative. Rather than create his own characters with their own set of motivation, he opts to just copy from better works and twist it into fitting his own generic OC power fantasy narrative. Which do you think is more insufferable? Filoni or the shills that praise his "work"?

[@codycardin]

I hope we get to see the rise of Admiral Holdo! Why she has purple hair? What drives her to wear the most elegant dresses into combat? Her suicidal command style?(every choice Holdo makes seems suicidal, not just her last...maneuver). Asoka Holdo?!? I can only dream

[@whitworth5s248]

Obviously she has purple hair because a human slept with a purple goo monster. It's just how it works.

[@nagger8216]

@@whitworth5s248 I love the obvious way they should've handled that but they just didn't do it. Just make the kid the same species as the mother, like the Asari in Mass Effect and call it a day. Instead we get some weird hybrid that doesn't have any Twi'lek features besides... green hair I guess. So fucking dumb. I get it's Star Wars, but they opened this can of worms up themselves by making the kid a hybrid of the two species instead of just making him human or Twi'lek, so now I need to know how the fuck that works. What about a human and an Ithorian (the big hammerhead aliens)? I doubt that would work. Is it just near-human aliens that can reproduce with humans because they're "almost" human themselves? Again, how does that work? What decides the features the kid has? Are the near-human aliens, like Twi'lek, really similar to us biologically or are they completely different except for a human-like appearance?

[@RandInternet]

Unfortunately, from what I’ve heard I think there is a comic that explains her hair and dresses (and also tries to hype her up by talking about this one time some infiltrator snuck into her quarters, but when security arrived they found Holdo just fine and nobody knows what happened to the infiltrator/assassin because Holdos just supposed to be that badass, apparently)

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

​@@whitworth5s248 With Thanos.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

@@RandInternetshe might be explained in a comic or a book, but that only proves that she is a dumb character in several forms of media…

[@sawysauce1256]

If you told me 10 years ago that the main character of Star Wars was going to be a purple pixie haired Jedi I would sadly absolutely believe you.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Oh, god. Shin Hati reminds me so much of Alice, lmao. She has Alice hair and expression.

[@eainjones9509]

The funny thing about the stupid ass space battle is that it would have been a great excuse to get rid of any team Hera would have, very reasonably, been able to put together. Instead, they decided to completely dismiss the idea that the villains might be competent in any way by having an entire space station and a squadron of 6 fighters fail to destroy a ship that actually was dead in the water.

[@TerranReviews]

I was never a big fan of SW Rebels, but I noticed another character discrepancy. In last week's episode we finally get to see Thrawn and he has a beer belly. Thrawn in Rebels is seen working out and demonstrates his physical prowess by sparring with two droids, and he holds his own against them. It just seems out of character for him to let himself go like that.

[@castlesandcuriosities]

The laser flak is quite frustrating to me. Flak itself would probably be very useful in Star Wars, the point of such a weapon is to not require direct hits but to throw shrapnel in an area to allow a greater chance of causing damage. But with laser flak, it's just smoke. Not only can this non-physical shot not spread damage in a wide area, we're shown in this very show how ineffective it is as they just fly right through it all. I suppose it's consistent though. Lightsabres don't cause damage to people either.

[@tabull8180]

And still we have seen weapons like "seismic charges" that already have greater area of effect than the actual point of explosion. If flak type weapons were used, it would cause some kind of effect around the explosion to have greater area of effect even when not shrapnel specifically.

[@castlesandcuriosities]

@tabull8180 oh my god, mini seismic charges as flak would work!!! I totally forgot about them. But thats ok, so did Filoni and the entire writing team and Lucasfilm.

[@tabull8180]

@@castlesandcuriosities Realistically thats exactly the level of expectation we have for Filoni and the entire writing team and Lucasfilm. Sad times we live in

[@petriew2018]

@@tabull8180 it's not just the writing staff. This is a complete failure of intelligence across the board Why is there puffs of smoke from a near miss of a laser blast in space? Why do the lasers just explode in close proximity to a ship in a vacuum? How do the lasers know to explode and why is there smoke? For the same effects budget and slightly less stupidity, just make them ion cannons instead and have the shields that are supposed to be there sparkle from the ion charge as it flashes past. We know there's ion cannons in Star Wars, we've seen them and what they do to ships and shields... if you want the ship temporarily disabled but not destroyed... i mean, this fixes that entire scene without any of the idiocy. All you have to do is make the lasers blue and the after effects sparks instead of smoke.... sparks even take less effort to animate... This is also, like, basic level scifi. it's quite frsutrating, the mix of stupid and lazy that's permeated every level of Lucasfilm.

[@ZionStrickland]

Generally with SW mats I feel like flak wouldn’t be very effective, not to mention completely no-spelled by shield

[@bmardiney]

A New Hope: "Great kid! Now don't get cocky" Disney Star Wars: "Nice work! Good shot! You're so cool! How are you so amazing?" Women need constant emotional validation at all times. They will literally melt if they don't get it.

[@mrmcawesome9746]

Old writing good. New writing bad. Women emotional? What?

[@atomicdancer]

"Do you think that I came... to the most unfindable place in the galaxy, for no reason at all? Go away." - Grand Admiral Thrawn

[@papabull8993]

In the U.S. Army, a General is in command of between 10,000 and 45000, troops. In Star Wars, a General doesn't even command a squadron of five pilots.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

At this point I’m convinced that her Rank is an honorary title, rather than an Official Military Commission…

[@MrNoscopeJones]

I should point out that in Heir to the Empire, Thrawn was in the first chapter

[@pupper9474]

Rags, the enemy lasers are weak because they're the green lasers. They need to pick up the laser powerup for the blue lasers.

[@_S0LUS_]

I've seen Rosario actually EMOTE in other stuff so I can only assume it's Filoni's "directing" that leaves her less expressive than C-3PO

[@cringeivore3769]

My friend paused Disney+ when it showed Sabine's face and I said 'Did you pause or is that just the show?

[@derrickdinwiddie8759]

That stupid droid saying "I'm reading two squadrons of three craft" made me mad. That droid would know that a SQUADRON is 12 ships and a FLIGHT is three. Wow...

[@watcher99999]

Fringy absolutely hit the nail on the head. Lightsabers and lightsaber duels (I guess, space battles and dog fights too) are just anemic, time wasters now. Star wars has lost any tension that it used to have, and as a consequence, there is no more investment. It's an empty shell barely mimicking what used to be.

[@ethannurtjahja160]

Why didn't Hera shoot the hyperdrive the transport was carrying? Sure, she didn't know what it was for, but it was seemingly important to the enemy. Also, in addition to Luke, why isn't Rex here. Retroactively, he's still alive by the end of ROTJ.

[@whitworth5s248]

I think canonically the ship she was flying was like a landing shuttle and didn't have any weapons.

[@nagger8216]

@@whitworth5s248 But we've seen both Republic and Imperial shuttles have weapons, why would the Separatists' shuttles be any different, especially when they were manufactured for and during a war? Plus we see Anakin using the shuttle's weapons in a Clone Wars episode to shoot down Dooku's shuttle, so that excuse doesn't work even in its own continuity

[@nagger8216]

My guess would be destroying the hyperdrive would cause some kind of massive explosion that might damage or destroy other ships, sending debris planetward, but they never mention anything like that, so...

[@petriew2018]

@@whitworth5s248 so you're saying it was because of plot contrivance? the hero didn't have a weapon because if they'd have had a weapon the plot comes to a screeching halt? because that ship not being armed, when fucking literally everything else in star wars seems to carry at least a few defensive lasers, is awfully convenient.... which, i mean, yeah that just stinks of Dave Filoni logic, so probably....

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Rex is 82 by now, so he is most likely dead.

[@ihavenophoneandimustmeme]

Thrawn hasn't even shown up yet, and when he does arrive, I doubt he'll be the same character from the book. He'll be as accurate a representation of Heir to the Empire's Thrawn as Jake Skywalker was an accurate representation of Luke Skywalker. When he arrives, I suspect people will say, "No one's ever really Thrawn."

[@nagger8216]

His writing in both this show and Rebels is inconsistent with his own canon novels, let alone the Heir to the Empire trilogy. Thrawn became a joke in Rebels, long before this shitshow. After all, the space whales (and that dipshit Ezra) are what defeated him in the first place. And don't even get me started on how he let the main characters escape after every encounter as part of his 5D chess strategy. It's a shame too because Lars Mikkelsen's voice acting and performance are phenomenal

[@teezzyy141]

I Can’t Even Piss, Standin’ Up.

[@patrioticcat5768]

Where did you learn to pee, ON A FARM!?!?

[@DerichndofCoomland]

More and more Theo is becomming my spirit animal.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Mon Mothma went through plastic surgery after ROTJ...she is supposed to be 55...

[@whitworth5s248]

They can't even be bothered to get an actress that looks like Mon Mothma anymore, but Admiral Tarkin? Anything short of that CGI nightmare fuel is a non-starter for Disney apparently.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@whitworth5s248 They should have just put aging makeup on her...

[@petriew2018]

she's also supposed to be, like, 4 foot 8....

[@zeroryuj6093]

Love how they're just stealing from New Hope AGAIN. Sabine is literally just Luke in this episode, from the helmet training, to "of I can't see how am I supposed to fight" , to Ahsoka's aped force explanation and right down to "I got one!" All that was needed was for Ahsoka to tell her not to get cocky and the circle would have been complete.

[@nagger8216]

Yeah, I'm so fucking done with these shitty callbacks and references, come up with new shit.

[@sakkra93]

Remember the time when Mara Jade took on an AT-ST and *barely* survived after having the power of the laser cannons nearly rip her lightsaber from her hands? Now we have Ahsoka managing to perfectly deflect starfighter-grade laser cannons, which are *FAR* more powerful than the laser cannons used on ground vehicles, by the by!

[@JekPorkbricks]

The third episode should've been called "It's Flyin' Time" as Ahsoka proceeded to fly all over the bad guys.

[@whitworth5s248]

Perfect opportunity for the bad guys to say, "Look, it's a Jedi. They fly now!" "They fly now???" "They fly now."

[@elementSe34]

-_-

[@8ligh7]

It should have been titled All the plot armor for my OCs.

[@jacksonsmart7849]

I’m glad Rags mentioned there being a reason the villain keeping the hero alive being they need them because they have part of the map, well funny thing is clone wars does that pretty well. There was an arc about this secret hyperspace route called the nexus route that shoots right to the center of both republic and separatist home planets. A Jedi Even Piell had it, he communicated that to the council, but the transmission was intercepted. While on their way, Piell and a few of his officers were captured, and all the rest were presumed killed. He memorized half of the nexus route info, and his next in command, Captain Tarkin, (yes, that Tarkin) memorized the other half. They’re captured and taken to a torture prison called The Citadel, and the council dispatched Anakin, Obi-Wan, and a small task force to rescue them and the info. Ahsoka stows away in there as well, but that’s not important. In the end, Piell dies and passes his half onto Ahsoka as she was the only one around when they got separated from the group during a battle. She relayed the info to the council as she promised Piell she would, but Tarkin was following orders to give the info directly to the Chancellor. This info would later be used by the separatists to get to Coruscant in order to kidnap the Chancellor and lead to Episode III ALSO in the clone wars there is a Twi’lek woman who had two children with a clone deserter and those kids looked believably half and half ALSO ALSO the clone wars has a scene where a class of clone cadets take a shot at firing from a gunner’s seat in a cruiser during a training voyage. A gunnery sergeant fires out scrap as targets, so it’s essentially skeet shooting in space. This training is being overseen by the admiral of the flagship, and witnesses first cadet missing a shot during the training. From there, the following dialogue ensues: Gunnery sergeant: Not even close, next! Cadet: But I- Admiral: Oh no, you’re done. You only get one chance. I promise you the separatists don’t give more. It provides a real insight into how important it is that one shot can make all the difference. Now let’s pair this with Ahsoka: Sabine:*misses* Ahsoka: Don’t worry about it, you’ll get another chance. So let me get this straight. We have a clone child who is grown physically to be about 10, but is mentally 5, and has been given the lesson that every shot counts. He is taught this in relation to target practice, where he is not in danger, on a heavily armed and armored warship that is the precursor to the Star Destroyer. Then we have Sabine, who is probably around 20 or so, in a tiny minimally armed shuttle, being pursued by 6 fighters trying to kill them, and she’s being told that she’ll get another chance? Are you sure about that?

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Those kids weren't from the clone, he just is their foster dad (the age doesn't match).

[@jacksonsmart7849]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p well now that I think about it, I will say the age doesn’t match, but the show conveys that they’re his, considering one of em is named Jek, which is a clone name

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@jacksonsmart7849 Maybe clone took his name, since he defected so early he had only code number?

[@dorianshepard2841]

Curious thing is that in disney canon the republic doesnt have any reason to fear thrawn. They had no dealings with him and the rebellion only limited. Based on the show and new era books it would actually be imperial remnant rivals whod have most reason to be wary of thrawn seizing power

[@MBS-HomuZombie]

My favourite part of the various Star Wars games was seeing all the lasers exploding like flak in open space. very iconic and *GREEN* 10/10.

[@lochlanmerkel7144]

Them talking about wanting to see a different training method than the one shown in Ahsoka is funny because in tales of the jedi Anakin says "fuck that shit we are gonna do this my way" and has ahsoka go against actual people. Weird how Ahsoka didn't think to include that kind of training with her own padawan

[@nagger8216]

They dropped that version of Ahsoka whenever she first showed up in Mando. Instead of realizing the flaws of the Jedi and learning to become a better Jedi than most of the official Jedi of that time, they threw all that out so we can have the most traditional, stoic, boring Jedi possible. One that apparently didn't learn jackshit from Anakin's fall to the dark side and the eradication of the Jedi. Nope, double down on all their flaws so Kylo Ren can burn it all to the ground later. Because that's absolutely what *Anakin's* apprentice and son would do, especially when Anakin's love for his son is what saved Luke.

[@lochlanmerkel7144]

God star wars makes me sad now :/@@nagger8216

[@oXRaptorzXo]

How would she train Sabine with eight real people surrounding her on a small ship with one droid

[@edwindejesus73]

I died when you called Shin Alice. Started watching your batgirl reviews and I thought she was similar

[@zanderman4059]

They are really messing with what the force is to give Sabine a opening to use force powers in this show. She is a Rebel Hero, New Republic Commander, A Mandalorian Warrior, A genius Inventor, A skilled artist and now it seems they are setting her up to use force powers in the show or at least teasing the idea. And they seem to be bending how the force works in order to facilitate the idea that anyone can use the force and that it just takes time which is absolute rubbish otherwise millions across the galaxy would be practicing force powers to some extent.

[@yaboiportch]

OH MY GOD SHE'S SO GODDAMN COOL

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Trillions.

[@8ligh7]

Filoni can't stop giving skills/abilities to his OC. Totally makes her a more interesting character just like good old maREY sue. And people have the audacity to say this guy is saving Star Wars. The man can't even save himself from his own writing, he's not saving anything.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@8ligh7 And if the rumors are true, the guy might even be the executioner of Star Wars by killing the Force and turning it into The Wheel of Time in Space!

[@whitworth5s248]

It really feels like this is a knee jerk reaction to all the criticism about Rey being all-powerful and needing no training. They went hard in the other direction by really driving down our throats that Sabine has no potential and struggles in training, but it won't be any better when they inevitably give her miraculous skill in the Force right when she needs it by the end of the show. It might even be worse, really.

[@VespoLiveGaming]

Why would the empire loyalist yell "for the empire" THEN attack, instead of shooting hera in the head THEN yelling "for the empire"

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Because Filoni doesn’t understand what ‘subtly” means…

[@yinnyonline]

>ahsoka effortlessly chops an entire wing off of a starfighter it almost feels stupid to say at this point but remember when quigon was struggling to slice through a thick metal door?

[@gwem1979]

And yet people loved this episode because ashoka cut a starfighter in space because she’s a bad ass. It’s going to fun watching the chaps watch the anakin key jangle episode and the one where thrawn finally appears. The fact that sabine doesn’t show any fear of thrawn negates any menace or threat the character should inspire. He’s a scoody doo villain, a cartoon baddie who was defeated by plucky kids in a shitty fan fiction that gave us spinny lightsabers that allow the user to fly. In the books thrawn was well written, an inspirational leader who was ruthless, brilliant, always planning ahead and a legitimate threat to the republic.

[@sammoore2082]

The scene where she jumps around on the ship slicing up starfighters with her lightsaber doesn't make any sense. And I will give a few reasons why. 1) I don't care how small those ships are they should not be thin enough to be cut through by a single lightsaber which is a weapon that has become equivalent to a toy dirk knife at this point. 2) If she was wearing magnetic boots, she would be absolutely stuck to the ship with no means of dodging or strafing at all. So she really did just go out there without any kind of boots or insurance. Also, when you jump off a ship in zero gravity you don't make an arc back onto the ship you just continue out into space. Though I shouldn't be surprised, after all, if the Blaster fire from the ship cannons wasn't enough to knock her back then why should simple physics? 3) I'm no expert on space travel but I'm pretty sure that it requires a massive amount of force to make a ship move in zero gravity, force that I assume would decimate any person it flies by in zero gravity, or at the very least it would knock her off. 5) Even after all this, the very least they could have done is use a space tether cable which is what ASTRONAUTS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN OUTSIDE! Otherwise, one wrong move and the person on the ship will go floating off into space which... oh wait, THATS WHAT HAPPENED! Ahsoka doesn't even sound the least bit concerned about it. Even though there are two ships still flying after them. Star Wars is slowly dying under the choking grip of Kathleen Kennedy, I look forward to the day that Star Wars falls into the hands of more competent people, even if it means for Disney to go bankrupt. PS: I didn't forget the count to four, I just don't like the number.

[@RandInternet]

31:47 Time for some pre-Disney EU tism, boys. The idea behind “Hyperspace Lanes” was that since hyperspace jumps require navigation calculations to ensure one doesn’t crash into a Star or something (per Han’s comments in ANH), a Hyperspace Lane would be lines through the galaxy which were reliably free of such obstructions, and therefore became useful for interstellar travel. The idea of an “intergalactic” hyperspace lane makes no sense, because the space between galaxies is already less obstructed by nature. (In the EU, the big barrier to intergalactic travel was time and fuel - galaxies are far apart, so intergalactic expeditions were logistically complicated in terms of keeping the crew alive and the ship running that long. There was a species of intergalactic aliens, the Yuzhan Vong, however they arrived in the main galaxy on colony ships after journey of at least several centuries). Also, “turbo lasers” used to be a capital ship’s big guns analogous to the main cannons on a battleship: powerful but slow firing, so only really of use against other capital ships. No idea why they work like flak cannons now. Also also, the main characters explicitly drop out of hyperspace at the edge of the system, but are somehow ambushed from behind?

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Disnusfilm’s idea of Hyprespace Lanes are essentially just Wormholes…

[@samzilla567]

18:10 We've seen from multiple sources, and even Ashoka herself as a baby that using force powers has nothing to do with training, your just born with it. Rey proved that you could go your entire life without training for 20 years and still be a master at it, so long as you were born with the blood of a past force user. Not everyone can use the force.

[@_stayoung_]

After playing a bit of the original Battlefront 2 I realised how badly these Disney shows have to stretch logic and the rules of fighter combat to make these scenes exist. A world where the bad guys' weapons only bruise while the heroes are armed with lasers that explode anything with a touch, where a dedicated fighter and anti-vehicle cannons are no match for a single dinky turret on a mobile home. Also, can I ask what happened to lock-on missiles, I haven't watched any Star Wars in years but they definitely had them in Episode III and I'm pretty sure Vader used them in his TIE Interceptor in A New Hope

[@jcore0981]

Couldn't think of a better birthday present

[@salamander8736]

Saaame 🎉

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Happy Birfdaes! ^.-.^

[@jcore0981]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon Thank you!!!

[@whitworth5s248]

Happy Birthday, internet stranger.

[@salamander8736]

@@whitworth5s248 thank you very much! X)

[@stitch3163]

Ahsoka appears permanently stoned on Jedi buds… which explains the acting.

[@samwallaceart288]

3:55 This whole talk from Fringy about the nature of Hero-Villain Fights is a great clip for future reference

[@xentiment6581]

This show really deserves Unbridled Rage video. More so than any Star Wars show to date

[@MatecaCorp]

I can’t wait for the EFAP on the avengers type movie they are planning to make with all the Mando and Mando-adjacent “characters”. It will be glorious.

[@josephjackson9679]

I fully believe the main reason the New Republic didnt give Twi'lek a fleet is because now its canon they tore Star Destroyers apart they dont know what ships the NR should have considering the vast majority of Nebulon-B frigates and Mon Cal cruisers got schwacked in the trap at Endor

[@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish]

I think it's because she's in the Republic's air force equivalent rather than the navy, which likely means that she has far less discretion and autonomy than a naval officer of a similar rank. I don't know if it's that's canonically the case but it would explain why she's always dealing with fighter operations whilst not being part of the navy.

[@josephjackson9679]

@@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish sadly for you, canonically once you reach the rank of general you get put in charge of a fleet, there arent any starfighter generals. Wedge resists promotion for as long as possible because it means he has to leave his squadron to run fleets. Generals and admirals oversee capital ships and the "wings"(12 squadrons of 12 starfighters if I remember rightly) held therein. If anything Hera should be swamped with her daily duties and in full command of her own task force. In essence, even if you start in the starfighter corps, go above colonel and you're running the fleet

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Aye, General is an Administrative Position, not a field one. ‘Generals” in the rebellion were fighting in the field, because they were not a fully fledged Military Force, at most they were a militia, and they were so resource strapped that everyone had to fight. But the New Republic is a Fully fledged State, with a Standing Military Force. If Hera really is a General, then she should be Administering orders to her troops, allocating resources, and essentially doing a lot of busywork behind the scenes, not galavanting across the Galaxy.

[@josephjackson9679]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon can you IMAGINE the ruckus it would cause if a US general absconded with seven Abrams tanks to international waters, and then only came back with five? Because that's what happened here!

[@mellowgeekstudio]

Ahsoka doesn't need propellant boots, she uses the Force to fall back on the ship. But the Force ran out on the last jump. She had a leak.

[@bad-people6510]

-"I think the reasons you are looking for Thrawn are personal." -"How dare you? Thrawn killed friends of mine!"

[@Hoopaugi]

Could not stop thinking about the WH40K meme of a commissar riding a tank and yelling "Drive closer I want to him them with my sword!" when that fucking space ship sword fight happened. Such a regarded scene

[@louisj.zamora3661]

Hearing you guys talk about how you wish they would show what dark side training is like because light side training is always so boring made me realize just how far Dave Filoni has fallen as a creator, because stuff like that is what he & his team offered on The Clone Wars - in that show, there's an entire episode dedicated to Count Dooku training a new apprentice, really highlighting the stark differences in the ideologies of the light & dark sides of the force. There was one test in particular that I remember very vividly, which was essentially an extreme version of Yoda making Luke lift rocks - Dooku would torture Savage Oppress with sith lightning until he was able to lift 4 massive stone pillars with the force.

[@calebchristensen8207]

I love how the lasers are all meant to be flak rounds (I guess), but whoever made that decision is so dumb they don't recognize the purpose of flak is to spew a cloud of fragments to rip stuff apart so you don't need a direct hit to destroy it. This is especially stupid when here we have every single blast "detonating"(?) within what looks to be less than 20 meters and somehow not damaging the ship.

[@atreides213]

The first three episodes of this show feel like the first ten minutes of a Clone Wars two-parter.

[@ThumbShovem]

A Jedi fighting spaceships with lightsabers is the kind of mindless fiction you come up with as a kid on a playground. NOT in a multi-million dollar TV production...

[@madookamagooka743]

Wait till the crew catches up and thrawn is literaly just a blue version of moff gideon with his own cgi faceless clone army.

[@ZionStrickland]

I’d assume that generally any force sensitive people DON’T figure out their potential. They probably just get odd feelings at opportune times every once and a while and are “lucky” more often then not.

[@scotiej]

Disney's use of Thrawn in the Rebels show and this is exactly how they treated Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. The plot and characters treat the character the way the fans do even though there's no reason for them to do so. Literally a jangly keys moment because the writers can't come up with anything resembling a good plot. What hurts worse for me as someone who read the old Legends (Expanded Universe) books going back literal decades is Disney declared the old books non-canon but have no problem plundering it and desecrating what was already good writing.

[@zigzag1630]

The TIE fighters chasing the Millennium Falcon were not trying to destroy the Falcon, they were trying to trick them into thinking they had fully escaped so that they could track the Falcon back to their home base.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Which hammers in the point harder. As a scene where they're actively being attacked by people trying to kill them is treated more lightly than a scene where they're just selling a ruse.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

So they knew they were gonna die? I have questions about their motives...

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Who? You talking about Ahsoka or the OT? Luke and Han _believed_ they were in mortal danger and so treated the situation seriously. In Ahsoka, Sabine and Ahsoka are both being casual about something that was evidently a mortal threat.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@Lobsterwithinternet The tie fighter pilots. What was their order - chase them and let them kill you so they don't suspect we are tracking them? And they followed?

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Don’t know. Maybe. Wouldn't put it past the Empire to do this. Maybe they were to just do a few runs until they ran away but didn't count on them fighting back? No clue.

[@zachrohler1047]

17:53 "Training and focus are what really define someones success" forgetting midoclorians are even a thing now are we squiddy

[@predatorasap5040]

That whole "military meeting" was so stupid and had so many things wrong with it , like how ??? HOW ??? Is it this bad ?? this level of incompetence shouldn't be possible , And the worst part is there are people who think this is good .....

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

A ‘general” meets with the Senators and starts the discussion casually about family matters. Then requests resources to chase her hunch about an Imperial Grand Admiral, but provides none of her findings as evidence to convince them. Finally, she insults and berates a Senator and goes on an emotional spiel about her quest for Thrawn being personal.. This outburst along with her being so casual about unofficial inspections, throwing around her rank to attempt to bypass procedures and compartmentalized information in the previous episode make it clear why the Senators have so little faith in her word. It’s shocking how she ever managed to make it to the rank of Kitchen Patrol, let alone a General.

[@predatorasap5040]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon I just wanna know if Feloni is phoning it in or does he unironically think this is good ??

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

@@predatorasap5040my guess is he thinks this is genius…

[@lunaticred0]

11:35 someone show mauler the scene from the 2003 clone wars show where Count Dooku is training Grievous.