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[@JGGR89]

Jennifer: "I can deal with anger infinitely better than you...I get cat called" Hulk: "I tried to kill myself because of all of the horrors I've lived. I lost 2 years of my life living as a green monster. Both women I loved died and I was powerless to stop it. My best friend sacrificed himself to save the world, when it shouldve been me. And yet here I am trying to help you with your bullshit. But please, do go on"

[@TheMemeRepository]

Pretty sure Betty is still alive, but otherwise yes.

[@finitedeus5629]

Nonsense, no trauma and death of loved ones could compare to the horrors of men being rude.

[@redlightning0001]

Well you remember The Don , his sick wife on her death bed gave him that jacket and motorcycle. But it’s apparently rude for him to ask Marvel to smile. So it okay for him to be assaulted and robbed.

[@axson8]

Oh also Jennifer I was hunted down by the US government for years which was pretty stressful.

[@Michael_1138]

In the books, it's canon that Bruce witnessed his father beat his mother to death. Dude has seen some shit.

[@Salazar.945]

1. Abused by his father 2. Caught in an explosion that permanently altered his mind and body to the point he loses body autonomy to a destructive entity that destroys everything around him 3. relentlessly hunter by the government with tanks and guns that shoots him on site 4. Spends a mojority of his time being emotionally isolated because if he experiences any hightened emotion he loses control. 5. was one time driven to suicide due to his situation only to learn it’s impossible when his other form just spit the bullet back out. Yeah I would say getting cat called and being on the receiving end of Man-xplaining is worse.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

6. Lost two years of his life and returned to human form on an alien planet where he would have either remained unaware of anything for years (or maybe even DECADES) while the Hulk remains in control or would have been trapped as a Human if it weren't for another Avenger being ejected from the bifrost and coincidentally ending up on the same planet.

[@CAL112100]

6. Prior to being the hulk, was tricked by the government to invest his life's work to develop super weapons using Gama Rays.

[@essexclass8168]

8. Love of his life jumped off a cliff and died a super cosmic death

[@Salazar.945]

@@essexclass8168 comix? If so how/why did that happen?

[@essexclass8168]

@@Salazar.945 nah MCU, Endgame

[@alexhayden219]

I like Nutsa. She has good opinions and discussion. She's smart and funny. She has a really chill and enjoyable voice and demeanor. Please have her on often.

[@JulianDoe]

Timestamps 0:00 Metal is Falling 0:43 Prometheus 2:25 Where’s the dogo? 3:38 The Guest 16:28 The Real Problem With Phase4 19:50 Multiverse, Timelines, and dimensions 21:20 Multirules & Multiconfusion 26:20 Intro Song 26:40 1999 27:24 Spoodermin 39:40 MCU 56:20 She-Hulk 1:00:37 Fourth Wall 1:03:07 Toxic Masculinity 1:09:20 CGI 1:13:50 Feminism 1:17:12 Opening 1:18:35 The Device 1:21:20 Steve Rogers 1:22:52 The Ship 1:24:08 The Crash 1:27:00 Makeover 1:29:24 Predators 1:31:43 Hulk’s Happy Place 1:34:20 Alienation 1:38:48 Why She’s Hulk? 1:44:10 The Chainsaw Room 1:48:40 Alter Ego & Priorities 1:54:15 Self-Awareness 1:56:27 Training, Fuckery & Memology 2:05:30 The Scene 2:25:30 Screentime & Storytelling 2:38:10 The Jeep 2:40:45 Fight Scene One 2:45:08 Characters, Stories & Appeal 2:49:12 Closing Statements & Fight Scene Two 2:59:40 Post Credit Scene 3:00:44 Poste Episode Discussion 3:05:25 Poor Rags 3:07:55 Bye Nutsa 3:11:15 Washing the bad taste 3:12:46 Complaints 3:14:10 Superchats (1) 3:16:40 Better Call Saul 3:18:20 My Hero Academia 3:19:02 Mauler's Vocal Effects Chain 3:20:10 Superchats (2) 3:22:30 Mike Ehrmantraut (1) 3:25:35 Superchats (3) 3:28:02 Metal The Female Camshot Provider 3:28:23 Superchats (4) 3:28:53 Mike Ehrmantraut (2) 3:30:24 Superchats (5) 3:30:50 One Piece 3:32:55 Crash Boom Bang 3:34:16 Morbius 3:36:03 That New GOT Thing 3:37:30 Superchats (6) 3:38:35 Editing Burnout 3:46:57 Better Call Saul vs Marvel 3:47:49 Fringy’s Meme 3:48:08 Superchat Values 3:50:43 New Exciting Media 3:56:07 Superchats (7) 4:26:39 The Worst Character Assassination 4:29:00 Superchats (8) 4:43:40 ...Of The Day 4:55:09 Digimon 4:56:28 Singing 4:57:05 Alien Movies Ranking 4:58:37 Superchats (9) 5:00:00 Guests Checkout 5:06:17 MOM Rage Update 5:07:30 New Plushies 5:11:11 Closing

[@ScottE-2]

Thank you for your diligent efforts to timestamp the livestream.

[@sparkypack]

📌

[@berinjelasamurai8071]

We need a thank you for commentors like this. Your work is appreciated

[@cyrus2395]

These timestamps are incredibly specific, I had to leave the stream yesterday but now I can find exactly where I left off

[@rlou4386]

People who post these are bigger heroes than anyone in phase four

[@isleofredemption]

I appreciate Nutsa's sentiment about the victim mentality rampant in these movies. "OMG MEN BAD WOMEN ARE OPPRESSED CATCALLS AND INCOMPETENT WHITE MEN RISE UP AND SMASH THE PATRIARCHY". I knew I was sick of it, all but the most dedicated left-leaning men were sick of it, it's nice to hear that women- the people all this noise is supposed to pander to- are getting sick of it, too.

[@e.zponder7526]

Wait until you find out that they hate women and femininity just as much as they hate men and masculinity.

[@Cannonfodder0617]

That scene is so much worse. Think back about what happened, her being in control the whole time means she Hulked out and tried to turn those "catcallers" into a bloody mist consciously.

[@2ndRodeo_Keziah]

nutsa is an awesome guest. Very savvy and well-spoken. Meshes well with the brood. Please have her back again! 👏😃

[@Chugargonfan]

“How do you pronounce your name, NUTsa or nootsa?” “Well, it’s nootsa” “Ok we’ll try to call you that” Only ever called her NUTsa

[@SynthwaveWine]

NOOT NOOTsa

[@Chugargonfan]

@juscbh BHUVSDSDVBHJWSDV pro tip: if you’re gonna keep pronouncing something the way you want, don’t ask how it should be pronounced.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

She said it didn’t matter so…

[@Chugargonfan]

@@blacklivesorblackvotes2985 fair but still.

[@TasselledWobbegong]

She-Hulk: whines about being sexualized (the cat calls) Also She-Hulk: brings up Capt America just to sexualize him ("it's so SAD he died a VIRGIN")

[@crislouise2509]

Don't forget the twerking scene. You know the sexual dance meant to arouse.

[@Nexus_Hives]

I saw "Nutsa" out of corner of my eye and thought it said nutsack for a second. Please tell me I was not the only one 😆.

[@DerichndofCoomland]

You were not.

[@ritenac6770]

Feels like Batwoman. It wants you to immediately like this new character whilst she is shitting on her predecessor, insisting they’re amazing and smart whilst having braindead takes like that catcalling or being called emotional mean’s she’s better equipped to deal with hulk rage compared to him. Implying that her experiences are worse to the guy who almost committed suicide due to the stress of his condition, grew up with an abusive father, used to be hunted like a monster.

[@-Azure.EXE-]

Stealing the predecessors shit and somehow being better at using it then the person that spent decades honing their craft. She Hulk 🤝 Batwoman

[@fluff6811]

Just a minor correction, Bruce has attempted suicide. “I put a bullet in my mouth but the other guy spit it out”

[@ritenac6770]

@@fluff6811 what I meant by almost. But yeah, technically he did commit suicide and was foiled

[@samwallaceart288]

This is an excellent example for future reference whenever someone says no one takes female trauma seriously

[@-Azure.EXE-]

It's getting insane how blatant they are becoming with insulting legacy characters. Cap got some heat from Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Thor got sxxt on by his ex-girlfriend. Strange is a bumbling fxxkwit. Hulk has his whole history dumped on by a woman complaining about getting catcalled and he didn't even have his own movie. Christ. Iron Heart is going to decimate Tony. Jericho missile his legacy. We are going to 'Find out' some horrific sxxt.

[@NoMoreHeroes75]

I can already tell they’ll shit on Daredevil when he shows up in She Hulk

[@-Azure.EXE-]

@@NoMoreHeroes75 'We realised, none of us knew how to write a compelling court scene.' And they want to use Daredevil of all the characters in the world. He's fucked.

[@AndrewThoesen]

You can say fuck on the internet buddy

[@Aralaas]

@@-Azure.EXE- It's gonna be the fucking Mitchell & Webb court room drama, lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpPJk51sjpeAqdU

[@dragonknightleader1]

@@-Azure.EXE- Or even watched daytime commercials about class action lawsuits. Superheroes cause all kinds of collateral and personal injuries suits.

[@StandTheOffensive]

I find it really funny how She-Hulk is all about woman empowerment and going against stereotypes… but the inciting incident is a woman being sh’t at driving 🤣🤣🤣

[@sneakerprojects241]

Starting to think it’s all done on purpose lol

[@Kernwadi]

I will not say: do not cum; for not all semen are an evil.

[@Kernwadi]

Yes.

[@DeltaFoxtrotZulu]

They didn’t want it to be too unrealistic.

[@RiylanCorma]

The best part is she coulda just kept driving and gone under the spaceship. Instead of just doing that she took a hard right, driving off a cliff(steep hill, whatever).

[@CapitalOOpinions]

Bold of Marvel to claim that the average woman has to regulate their anger in their daily life more than Bruce fucking Banner.

[@noahsmith1053]

It's even worse where with everything they showed me in this episode I completely forgot that's his COUSIN. A family member who should have a pretty good idea of what his life has been like till this point.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Pretty based when you think about it

[@RazorTrap]

@@HerohammerStudios kek

[@rhyscallinan8891]

The show is run by a bunch of female feminists whose only dose of life is Twitter. Of course they know nothing about Bruce, or the realities of a woman's life, or the fact that being catcalled is a sign of still being youthful.

[@crislouise2509]

She hulk:You had to be on the run for years wanting to die but unable to. Called a monster.Lost close friends. Yeah no my life is harder and I have more anger then you.

[@KingoftheBashful]

I know "This feels like a CW show" is a common statement, but She-Hulk definitely feels like something the CW would make.

[@Soyuz2578]

But worse

[@spiderjeranimo4992]

Lets be fair, some of the CW/DC shows had a good first season, then there's Batwoman.

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

@@spiderjeranimo4992 batwomen looks like a breaking bad compared to this

[@essexclass8168]

Nah cause even Batwoman was entertaining, this is wine mom level writing

[@matthewlugo2417]

I miss old cw when supernatural was around

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

I find myself liking Nutsa quite a bit. She sounds pretty nice, soft spoken, genuine and even a little shy. And her opinions are pretty neat as well. I hope to see her one again. I appreciate how nice and approachable the EFAP group was towards her, really neat stream. PS: In case anybody didn’t know, English is not Nutsa’s first language it’s actually her third, so for all those people who wonder why she says "like" in every other sentence that’s probably the reason why.

[@archstanton9073]

What's her first? I was trying to place her accent but had no luck.

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

@@archstanton9073 I have no idea... she has never disclosed where she is from. She has only said that she's not from any English speaking country.

[@samwallaceart288]

She really suits the vibe of the main hosts. Soft-spoken but lowkey just as harsh on media as the boys. Would be really neat to see her pop up as a regular

[@unpopularopinions7407]

_Third_ language? I legit didn’t get that impression whatsoever, that’s really impressive.

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

@@unpopularopinions7407 Yup, and she's 19 years old...Thats a champion right there.

[@jackwhite2654]

I can't believe Nutsa would betray her sex like that smh. Doesn't she know that if a green CGI creature says something that makes it true? Truly the most toxic of the brood.

[@Kernwadi]

Y'all got a towel or anything?

[@Senpaiaproves]

@@Kernwadi hi I'm tommy

[@Clawed9]

​@@Kernwadi just... Go clean up in the bathroom.. Jeez.

[@jcore0981]

She-Hulk: "I grew up surrounded by cat-calling."

[@davenathan2002]

"Moulded by it..."

[@yaboiportch]

"And where were _you_ cat-called? On a FARM?!"

[@CMCAdvanced]

I understood that reference

[@voicemonkey3886]

Jennifer: “Incompetent men try to explain my own area of expertise to me.” Also Jennifer: “I can control my emotions better than you and I’m better at being a Hulk person than you.”

[@Jedi_Spartan]

While my mum was watching that scene in episode 1, I mentioned why the emotional control line made no sense in context of telling it to THE HULK and then she accused me of mansplaining! That just made me facepalm internally.

[@DuneStone6816]

The constant jabs at men throughout this episode have given me new appreciation for "Captain Marvel's" subtly.

[@danishcartoonist545]

The hidden subtleties, or did you mean hiddel subbeldees?

[@papershadow]

If I can give Captain Marvel a credit in this comparison of some faint praise, it at least was more individual guys being dicks and the "wow, awesome" people primarily being female, but you had to read into things to generalize beyond that. She-Hulk is not even pretending the statements aren't trying to extend to the female gender and experience beyond the character in question.

[@e.zponder7526]

I think it was Wolf who predicted at the time that from the way things were looking we would one day look back at Captain Marvel and think "it's not THAT bad"

[@someguywhopaints692]

Nutsa was a nice addition this episode, subbed to her channel and look forward to checking out some videos. Been here since finding EFAP #1 by chance, can't wait for #200 this weekend, keep up the great work all 👍

[@dragonknightleader1]

Here's a general pitch for a lawyer comedy show. "If you or a loved one was injured in the Battle of New York or affected by Ultron, you may be entitled to compensation." Shulkie can start off one of the lawyers suing Stark Industries for whatever Personal Injury happened that week, get injured in a car crash, get Banner's blood, and then decides to defend superheroes from PI suits. She then sets up a small insurance company specifically to handle superhero cases. Like early seasons of Better Call Saul back when he was practicing Elder cases in the Sandpiper case. The middle-aged ladies writing this show don't even watch daytime commercials.

[@bugsymcgee3310]

Nutsa seems awesome! So glad she came on and hopefully will see her again as yet another converter to the toxic brood!

[@HerohammerStudios]

I can't wait for the next Avengers movie. Imagine seeing all these characters you don't care about or actively hate coming together. I'm sure the magic of that first movie will be completely recaptured

[@thanostitan2746]

Man I agree, these new characters are so godawful and imperfect,except for spider man. He's the owning character I care for,than phase 4. Doctor strange and falcon, bucky got assassinate, thor is a joke, they're ruined black widow and hawkeye , maybe cap? She-hulk writers freaking hated hulk so much and he also a joke in show. Loki is a different dumb character and a simp. Dude daredevil...man..oh God. I care about him so much.

[@rachelblack314]

they'll all be competing to see who can be the biggest self-absorbed baby

[@Сайтамен]

@@thanostitan2746 Spiderman won't be there, he is anonymous.

[@almalone3282]

​@@Сайтамен They are gonna shoe horn Miles Morales last minute

[@Spillow-C]

even before of that, making a Avenger movies without Captain America and Iron Man is already a stupid thing in the first place, its like making Justice league without Superman and Batman lol

[@TheButterAnvil]

my normie girlfriend saw me watching this stream and when it got to the clapping part she was like "wait didnt hulk in the first movie have to like fight to control it, wasn't he out of control or whatever" This has to hit a critical mass at some point

[@grays1475]

Nutsa was a really great guest to have on, some interesting discussions evolved from her takes. Would be nice to see her on efap #200

[@sparkypack]

Everyone will be back for 200.

[@chapman2001]

@@sparkypack Tonald? 🥺

[@sparkypack]

@@chapman2001 Tonald included!

[@YourPrivateNightmare]

@@sparkypack Even Jared?

[@sparkypack]

@@YourPrivateNightmare Jared! Of course!

[@maxrelax33]

EFAP evolved. It started with Jareds room and now we are about to reach episode 200. Hail Jareds room.

[@sparkypack]

Jared as EFAP 200 guest! 🥳

[@maxrelax33]

@@sparkypack That would be amazing!

[@lordrichtofen8266]

@@sparkypack monkaS

[@archstanton9073]

I miss the Ninja Turtles stuff and the filthy wall near the light switch.

[@lordrichtofen8266]

@@archstanton9073 dont forget the literal skeleton in the closet and the Safe on the bed😂

[@sophisticautistic5453]

Remember when Disney decided that they should make one of the most well liked Hulk stories from the comics but instead of having Hulk in the main character, they had THOR be the main character? I thought that would be the biggest "Fuck you" to Hulk but then Endgame and She Hulk happened... It can't get any worse, can it?

[@Jedi_Spartan]

Regarding the Thor example they possibly thought "Fuck it, Universal won't play ball and let us make Hulk solo films, we need to set up Infinity War so let's just choose a non Earth film to throw him into."

[@sophisticautistic5453]

​@@Jedi_Spartan Fair enough. It's kind of weird though that when writing the third Thor film called Ragnorok, they decided to make Planet Hulk too but Hulk is taking the place of another character in his story. Maybe I'd be okay with that but Hulk in that movie is kind of a baby and not even like the stoic character he is in that story. They took elements from a famous Hulk story but changed Hulk to be a worse character. That's just kind of sad.

[@HBG313]

Id rather thor be the main character than a female

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@HBG313 certainly with how they're written in current Hollywood

[@Aralaas]

I said "It can't get any worse." this new years, don't tempt fate.

[@Zaharad]

One thing I realised is that Shulk making her anger management some sort of competition with Bruce kind of re-frames the whole training montage that happened just earlier as being her very clearly trying to up-stage him and show him up.

[@kylec8015]

1:24:00 It's because we can't have Bruce deliberately do something heroic and actually save her by doing a blood transfusion. That's unacceptable. Make it a complete accident instead. He shouldn't be the one to gift her her powers, no that's sexist, harkening back to Adam's rib, instead, not only should she acquire them by happenstance, but she should also be the one to save Bruce by dragging him from the car. That's the thought process. 1:38:25 Yes, like random makeovers

[@YourPrivateNightmare]

Rags couldn't make it because he can't stand not being the only woman on the panel

[@shawnm1902]

Clearly it would start a cat fight. Hasn't been a good cat fight on efap since the other furball left.

[@Spink_Prime]

I'm very happy you all touched on the "reading out monetary amounts" donation aspect, as it's something that I LOVE about you guys and DESPISE whenever I see it. Nerdrotic has a cheering sound and it drives me INSANE, and it would make me feel worthless if I donated 10 and he just reads it out, then someone donates 100 and gets super huge cheers and everything. Donations should be done out of charity, not out of expectation for a reward, and I feel like getting cheers or notifications that you're a special little someone for "donating" X amount feels like I'm purchasing the cheers rather than honest support for a hard-working channel you appreciate.

[@thuglifebear5256]

We need a buddy cop movie with John Walker, The Don, and their police chief is the guy who tells She Hulk to smile more. I feel like the public is ready for it.

[@BionicleFactory]

Throw in Slam Bradley, the hero cop from that one episode of Batwoman. It's the episode where she comes out as a lesbian to avoid being shipped with GASP a straight man.

[@scorpixel1866]

The Don should be the grey bearded senior officier close to retirement, he's from the 80s after all.

[@gliscaradu1424]

@@scorpixel1866 as long as he doesn't die in season one, unless its mega impactful, as in nothing will ever be the same level impactful

[@mrmcawesome9746]

@@gliscaradu1424 I am... The Don *snaps fingers*

[@Сайтамен]

The Don was in Pacific Rim.

[@bad-people6510]

She wasn't in a car crash in the comics. She was shot by mobsters because they actually tied her origin into her being a lawyer. It also had this really tense angle where Bruce is trying to protect her and stave off the mob good while desperately trying not to become the Hulk because the Hulk can't giver her the medical attention she needs.

[@eoinokane9405]

I like Nutsa, think she did great. Started slow and came back into it with some really strong talking points

[@mediocrestreams3284]

she hulk avoids helping people in a fight becuase it will make her look bad until pushed into doing so. meanwhile, Steve Rodgers jumped on what he assumed was a live grenade without hesitation because he wanted to save lives modern MCU everybody

[@connorstephen8708]

I was reading a post praising she hulk and there was one guy in the comments who said that it was the worst thing on television and someone responded with “YoU CleArly hAVen’t seen ThE Hitler sitcom” and I just couldn’t believe their only defense was comparing it to a sitcom about Hitler

[@2ndlegend125]

From what I remember of the Hitler Sitcom it was actually pretty funny.

[@DuneStone6816]

The entire scene of Jen's first transformation is conveyed in an oddly choppy way. The spaceship just disappears as soon as it's served it's purpose and only gets a passing acknowledgement later. Jen blacks out twice, conveniently giving the show an excuse to not show us how she gets from place to place, or where she is at any point. She asks to borrow a phone, but we never receive confirmation that she successfully got a hold of Bruce. We are never told where or how Bruce was during all this. Those helpful ladies disapear in the next scene. When Bruce does show up, it's so fast and sudden that some viewers miss it. Then Jen wakes up in another country, with no explanation as to how Bruce got her there or how long it took. And what's worse, I'm not sure why most of those scenes even needed to be in the show.

[@discipleofdeath2517]

Oh god I had a right good chuckle, someone mentioned worse character plank. My first thought was the literal plank from Ed, Edd, and Eddy. That is insulting plank was a pivotal character in the show lol.

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

2:32:45 I think it needs to be said that Bruce didn’t reverse the snap, thinking it would ruin his arm. He did it knowing that it may kill him and if anybody else did it: it would almost certainly kill them.

[@changvasejarik62]

Still waiting for Wanda to attack Bruce for not resurrecting her husband. Because unlike some of the crap Wanda pulled that would at least be understandable since unlike the other fatalities vision only died because the mind gem was destroyed before the upload in wakanda.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

@@changvasejarik62 to be fair, its not really Bruce's fault he wasn't able to picture a specific person in a functionally infinite number of people. Also turns out Dragon Ball rules matter, Bruce should have thought "I wanna revive everyone killed by Thanos" so he could get the Snap, but also Loki, Heimdall, Vision, etc so the sludge can flow forever and without end

[@changvasejarik62]

@@darkpuppetlordful true enough, but again I would still think Wanda would at least want words with him over it. And I feel a little ripped off we never got to see it, considering everything else we see with phase 4 Wanda.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

@@changvasejarik62 true

[@iainmcdonalds4018]

I was thinking on the rock throwing scene, and what annoys me is that it could easily have become a really interesting scene. If after Hulk threw the second rock, you could have had She-Hulk call him out wondering if that rock was going to hit somewhere on earth. Hulk could reply that no, he threw it into space. She-Hulk could then mock him about being a 'little insecure there buddy?' or something, but Hulk could seriously reply that it was on purpose. He meant it to demonstrate something. That the power that She-Hulk now had was not something to be taken lightly. That the difference between lightly holding something and crushing to to dust was so comparatively small that it was like a normal person trying to hold their thumb and forefinger as close together as possible without them touching. Her training should then have been more about teaching her how to specifically hold back so she could walk around without destroying things. He could even tell her that if she ever got into a fight with someone, unless she intended to kill them, she should always go way under in how hard she hit people, because the difference between a light tap and putting her fist through their face was so tiny. That might even help out fights later into making a bit more sense.

[@A_better_alternative]

Yeah but then the writing team would have had to use their brain for more than 5 seconds and they would have had to concede that Bruce (a man) made a good point. So you'd probably be better of winning lotto then this actually happening. Though I really like that idea, could have been a great scene if they had done it that way.

[@noahsmith1053]

Yea I used this example often, but most people know about when Dr. O took Peter's body. One of the many things that happens is punches off scorpion's mouth. Then the realization of Peter's holds back his punches a LOT. Otherwise most of the people he would routinely deal with would be dead. Something like that would how been a good converation. If She-Hulk was good that is -_-.

[@axelvoss9653]

oh you know she'll never kill anyone no matter how hard she hits them; the writers would either forget how strong a Hulk is or just refuse to let her suffer consequences

[@feliz2564]

Especially in regards to the catcalling scene. He could have brought up that she could've actually killed the dudes in blind rage if he hadn't intervened.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

"Ah threw it into space, overcompensating much cousin?" "No, I threw it into space because it was easy Jen, too easy. You could probably throw a rock into space too. That's my point, one bad choice and a building is gone, one argument too far and you're a monster forever." Literally wrote better dialogue for this show in 2 minutes than the writers did in months

[@lordhood8298]

You guys should do an EFAP Movies for Incredible Hulk. I think it definitely deserves another look in light of the MCU downfall we are seeing now.

[@Bungowumperpuss]

She-hulk is made for late 30’s single women who have “Live, Laugh, Wine” and “Life is between coffee and wine” decor above their 4 cat bowls in their small apartment and can’t build a stable relationship because their only personality is being overbearing and insufferable. They get no fulfillment outside work so they delude themselves into believing they’re the only competent person at their dead end “career”. They want to drag men down because they can’t get one, and hate happy women as it shows their own failures. Misery loves company. What a pitiful existence.

[@DayBowBow]

Living up to your name. Well said. And hilarious

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I don't think insufferable people like watching other insufferable people to be honest.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

Hear, hear.

[@InnerAtanih]

As a single 30 yo who loves wine and those kinds of cringe home decor, I hate this show and everything it’s preaching and will defend men all day from this bullshit

[@dianebrooks1859]

This is what I thought too, which is funny because technically I'm their target market I guess. I watched Disparu's recap and thought, "dang who is this show for? These some bitter AF ladies what the heck."

[@Lauren007E]

The creation of she hulk was so much more impactful in the comics, Bruce was still hunted like an animal and when his cousin was hurt he had to make the choice between protecting himself and letting her die, or trying to save her life but putting himself and everyone else at risk since if he lost control at any point he'd kill her and everyone else in his wake. Like that was a scary choice for him to make, since neither one was a safe option, she could have died either way. And if he did save her life he could be making her a rage monster that would kill everyone anyway and become like him. Neither option was good, not a single person would thank him for either one... instead we got this.

[@alexhayden219]

3:49:00 MauLer once again showing why he's objectively the best youtuber. He cares about us by not caring about us. Chad move.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

The entire time I was watching Jennifer berate and belittle Bruce's journey, I was thinking of his line from Avengers 1 "I pulled the trigger and the other guy spat out the bullet" or something along those lines, legitimately Bruce has tried to kill himself, a pretty commonly accepted rock bottom, and Jen literally doesn't care

[@davenathan2002]

But unsolicited compliments, tho!!!

[@RiylanCorma]

@@davenathan2002 Or murder.

[@jameswhite8230]

"I put a bullet in my mouth and the other guy spit it out."

[@robonator2945]

I'm sorry but the concept of someone coming to your door, asking you to put pants on, and hearing the reply "You came to my house, you deserve the full experience" is 500x funnier than anything in she-hulk.

[@emuman09]

Funny because it's true

[@darkpuppetlordful]

My theory is the superhooker fight is so chopped up and disjointed because the Korean sweatshop animation factory couldn't replace the CGI in those scenes in time, so they just cut around to the scenes they had them fix out of order (such as the "Jen Walter's attorney at law" shot that was in the trailers) Also unfortunately I think the weird Kung-Pow choreography is them attempting to capture the "zany energy" of comic book fights (they probably think it's the equivalent to Adam West batman having "POW"s "BAM"s and "ZAMN"s whenever a hit lands)

[@DriveKnightJaden175]

People ask why all adventure stories stick to the Hero's journey model where the first step is establishing the status quo and then having the call to adventure, it's because when people who don't know what they're doing stray from it we get shit like this, "Hey, you don't know me but I'm already on an adventure!", "Okay, and?", "No that's it, now give me your money"

[@ChaosDanc]

There is a series of She Hulk of eleven issues called "Hulk (2016)" and mentions how She Hulk after two tragedies, Hawkeye killing Bruce Banner preemptively and she almost getting killed by Thanos loses control of he powers were her rage becomes uncontrollable. That was fucking awesome run, why couldn't we have that She Hulk as a tv show.

[@donk4979]

Can we keep her? She’s great

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

You can certainly keep Rag''''''''''s as long as she does not pull the lead off. Nutsa, not really sure. If she is an orphan.....maybe...?

[@ithewho6603]

She-hulk?

[@BoB-th8wm]

That scene in the courtroom where she took off her shoes, reminded me of Titanic where the guy said 'in an emergency you had time to take off your Shoes?'

[@BilboniousBagODonuts]

Absolute Her-O story. Absolutely amazing to begin with without any struggle, while acting they they've constantly struggled (much more than those bad bad males), and being affirmed for being amazing by her super-supportive gal pals (cause women are always super nice to each other) and will somehow convince the female villan to solve themselves (probably by realizing men are bad) for everyone else to realize she was exactly as incredible as she said she was to begin with. Congratulations, I hate it.

[@danishcartoonist545]

I’ve decided I like this Nutso bird. She seems like she would make a fine addition to the Toxic Brood.

[@changvasejarik62]

Coming in phase 7: mcu heroines versus the alien parasites that fight the X-men. Phase 7: Brood vs Brood

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

"Like like like like like like like like I hope Fringy agrees".

[@hkaayaakuu]

​@@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt heh

[@inventgineer]

Whatever prop person decided to tape an oldschool garage-opener to Ruffalo's arm and then have the audacity to pretend it's high tech?....that's a troll of lofty levels, lol.

[@sol-hunter2332]

So wait. She-hulk is mainly about men being trash and women being better. And when push comes to shove. She-hulk hides under a desk while the men rush to fight an enemy that is clearly superior to them? And she only helps because her friend forced her to? Is that right?

[@Bungowumperpuss]

Cowering is the natural female instinct lmao

[@akashajones6079]

@@Bungowumperpuss But men like you aren't sexist right? The show is completely wrong that some men treat women like shit. You're really proving the show wrong their man.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

​@@akashajones6079yes, he is correct.

[@goodhunter9791]

I like Nutsa. Should have her on the show more often

[@samwallaceart288]

Would welcome her as a regular or semi-regular. Her vibe really slots in with the boys nicely.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Rags sounds different this episode.

[@discipleofdeath2517]

The video Lofti made correcting the rant that she controls her anger better was hilarious.

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

2:18:55 The issue here is that the writers don’t view this as Bruce Banner vs Shehulk. They view it as man vs woman.

[@changvasejarik62]

I’d be more fine with this if old man Logan or future imperfect was announced. Since both stories rely on Bruce going insane for one reason or another so why not have him go insane with his cousin messing with his ego after all the crap he had to live with being the straw that broke the camels back. But those would be too hardcore for the mcu (especially with what happens to Bruce and Jen in old man logon).

[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

You forgot the “” around “writers”.

[@slashmytires9195]

Being catcalled is apparently worse than being a human nuke, which could be set off by as little as getting aroused. Man, current marvel is just spectacular.

[@changvasejarik62]

God, I miss when squadron supreme was good. Hearing that reminds me of nuke betraying the squadron for the crime of “not curing the cancer he caused because he was careless” at least nuke had the excuse of being young, stupid, and who would be sane after killing their parents.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

Being looked at is considered rape by some feminsts. Being complimented must by 36 knives in the back

[@LuxFerre4242]

"I can't imagine [it] getting worse." Oh, you sweet summer child.

[@CupCakeUnleashed]

There's so much character to delve into, with bruce teaching his cousin how to control her power and use it for good, going off what he had to do and learn, while also dealing with the superhero lawyer thing... man why the fuck did they give us this shit?

[@B.A.T.113]

Would've loved to hear Rags' take on THE SCENE. No doubt he would tear into it

[@Jedi_Spartan]

So as a question: What would have happened if Banner's plan to trigger She Hulk's transformation didn't work? Would he have ripped the door open and save her or would he be awkwardly mopping her up? Also at this point I'd rather watch a series or film about the plot of the Incredible Hulk roller coaster with Ross trying to create an army of Hulks from random people instead of this.

[@archstanton9073]

The world would be down one lawyer. I fail to see a flaw in his plan.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

@@archstanton9073 actually, not only that but the MCU and Disney+ would also be down one series so there's more advantages than flaws.

[@DuneStone6816]

He probably had a button he could press to stop the machine instantly at the last second . . . probably . . .

[@InnerAtanih]

@@DuneStone6816 I don’t think he did. He tried to kill her twice smh

[@cookiemocher388]

It would have been better if it turned out to be a fake hologram like Tony Stark used in Civil War, and when she turns into the Hulk and tries to stop it, she finds out it's not real and then gets angry at Bruce for fucking with her like that, and we're back where we were before with Hulk finding out she doesn't have a Hulk alter ego like he does

[@BudgieVengeance]

1:14:12 The panel and Chat simultaneously fall in love with Nutsa

[@juliomendes30]

I hope Wolf could make a cameo in episode 200 along with Tonald and Jared

[@sparkypack]

🤯 YES!

[@noneed4sleep64]

I doubt it. Only reason he showed up for 100 was because it was such an important number. Maybe he’ll show up for 250, or 500, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

[@spendsshanks6050]

@@noneed4sleep64 And because Tonald showed up. That was one of the main reasons as well

[@juliomendes30]

I noticed that he was pretty rough towards Rags wich made me think that he was very much uncomfortable with him around but it was so long ago that perhaps they already healed their relationship, this is pure wishful thinking of course

[@noneed4sleep64]

@@juliomendes30 they were/are friends. Wolf left for mental health reasons, not because he and rags didn’t get along.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

After watching the Cornetto Trilogy over the weekend, one of my thoughts was "why can't film comedy be at this quality anymore?" I miss the days when media had good quality in any regard (2000s for everything aside from MCU). I'm currently avoiding any Star Wars content from post 2016, the MCU is being WAY oversaturated, Halo Infinite has fuck all for content, the Halo series is shit I'm forcing myself through and I've only been watching RTD era Doctor Who for the last few months.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Why the fuck are you watching the Halo series??

[@Jedi_Spartan]

@@HerohammerStudios for the same reason I watched Torchwood series 1, to find out how bad it is! I've not gotten to the episode that randomly thinks it's Mass Effect, I'm still trying to build up the commitment to force myself through the Kwan only episode.

[@RSNitsua]

I recommend going back through film history and watching some of the all time classics. I just recently watched "Metropolis"(1927) and was amazed at how much nearly every other piece of media took from that movie. It's been refreshing looking into a different era and seeing how they told stories, and how those stories where often times better than what we have now.

[@matthewmuir8884]

I'm in a bit of a conundrum: when She-Hulk was announced, I said I would only watch She-Hulk if it had a joke about Bruce Banner having been played by Edward Norton in the Incredible Hulk movie that Tim Roth's character was in. My exact words were: "I will only watch She-Hulk if they have something along the lines of Tim Roth's character saying, 'Long time, Banner. Last I saw you, you looked more like Edward Norton.'" Well, guess what; in episode 2, Banner tells She-Hulk that his fight with Abomination was, "So long ago, I was a completely different person; literally." Now what do I do? Between this an semi-jokingly predicting that the most inconsistent character in episode 9 will be The Force, I don't know if I should make joke-predictions more often, or stop making them entirely.

[@bmardiney]

How is there NO ONE that interacts with these scripts that just goes "Hey, uh, people don't actually talk like this. How do you not notice this?" Are showbiz people even human at this point?

[@ILikeBleachItsTrue]

I enjoyed Nutsa on here. Wonder how she would play with Rags.

[@DriveKnightJaden175]

Fun observation, if Bruce's device got fucked up in the crash, how did he not turn into Hulk as a result of the injuries?

[@steveelmy]

This is the second time in three numbered episodes where a covered video's creator is a guest in an episode, and I've felt like they very much deserve to be a guest again in the future. In other words, Nutsa is great

[@Red_Zeke]

I'm incredibly scared after this episode where they devalue and gloss over Hulk because being catcalled is so much worse that they're going to do the exact same to Daredevil. If they try to pull some privilege card on the blind orphan this show will be beyond salvage.

[@samwallaceart288]

Imagine calling a blind person racist. _He can_ hear _the melanin, the sick bastard_

[@tajanisc]

Yes guys Kate Bishop is the best non-Spider-Man related female character. Not sure how much it’s worth, she’s winning by default

[@BionicleFactory]

What about Wasp? I don't think she's been assassinated yet.

[@Сайтамен]

@@BionicleFactory She was almost a Mary Sue in second film.

[@BionicleFactory]

@@Сайтамен I still haven't seen Ant-Man and the Wasp, so I don't know anything that. F in the chat for Wasp if that's the case.

[@Сайтамен]

@@BionicleFactory Well she isn't definite Mary Sue, but certainly does everything better than Scott.

[@jackchipper7458]

Phase 5 is starting pretty well as we see

[@gsgunawan80]

"Congrats, you have identified her flaw. She's not a Mary Sue." - - Somebody in the chat Like the heroine of Prey, what was important about having character flaws is whether the character gets punished for it, or *overcome* it. I had my worries for the character Naru, and I was disappointed. Jen was obvious from the start, and kept that way until the end.

[@Party_Almsivi]

As a guy, the idea of strangers exclaiming they find you hot, rude as they might be when doing it, is completely foreign to me. The idea you would be so upset about it, outside of obvious exceptions like being alone at night, or it being very repetitive, that you’d bring it up like she hulk does to a guy who desperately wanted to kill himself? Bewildering. Ladies, imagine being average or even mildly above average looking, and not once having any strangers ever say anything about it to you in public. Unless you’re exceptionally attractive, maybe. Like I said, I could see it getting old if it came from the same person or group of people, or being scary if you’re alone and they’re walking up on you, but otherwise, I’d be happy to be complimented by people at all. And the reaction of some women online being “preach sister!” Is just funny in context of what her gripes are compared to, the suffering of Banner. You know, ladies, you could always try catcalling guys, see how it goes. Record it, it’d be a great social experiment.

[@archstanton9073]

As we all know, women hate compliments.

[@11jerans]

I still fondly remember the one time someone who wasn’t my mother said I was handsome. That was 10 years ago. I haven’t heard a word since. I’m not saying I should be complimented more often, maybe I’m ugly, but to be complimented, for anything about me or my skills or looks, would be a real breath of fresh air. As to your social experiment, there was a lesbian who dressed up as a guy and infiltrated a male friend group under the guise of a man. She called it quits after a couple of weeks because she found the experience so awful and depressing she couldn’t stand it.

[@SparkZ009]

@@11jerans Same here but 20 years ago, by an old lady. Still remember it. Honestly i'd rather have compliments like those be scarce than way too abundant as they are with women.

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@SparkZ009 Why??

[@Bungowumperpuss]

I went into a fit of tears because a woman across the street screamed “Nice cawk!”. It was so traumatizing.

[@SciMedia]

Loved Nutsa!

[@alexhayden219]

I mean, I think it makes sense that she doesn't have a separate personality. Not just because of Bruce's base mental problems, but because he's already at Smart Hulk point. She didn't get full-on Hulk transfusion. She gets his current Smart Hulk blood, where he's a bit smaller and only has persona because he killed Hulk. That much, at least, makes sense to me.

[@samwallaceart288]

Good writing can make many things workable. If it's good.

[@Wyzai]

1:11:15 I've heard the point they could've just hired a body builder and used her as an actress. You only need a can of paint per scene. That seems like a very good budget option.

[@archstanton9073]

The reason She-Hulk is doing all those claps because she's literally "clapping back" at Hulk.

[@42ndguardian]

I'm just imagining what she's doing as the literal interpretation of that pretentious thing people do on Twitter where they do the clapping emoji in between every word. Reinforces her place as The Incredible Karen.

[@samwallaceart288]

Metal's hide-the-pain John Cena theme song will never not be funny

[@HectorLopez0217]

I feel it needs mentioning that when Bruce throws into a palm tree Jen bends it so far she launches coconuts at him. Family Guy shows what happens when those fall on someone’s head

[@heretichunter5659]

Better invest in Punto to protect me from Hulk's casual meteoric workouts

[@axelvoss9653]

The difference between universes, realities, timelines and realms is the same as the difference between sorcery and witchcraft: "Fuck you."

[@bad-people6510]

It's really weird because in this case it seems like, depending on whether this is a criminal or civil case, she's either the prosecutor or the plaintiff. Either way her desk should be on the jury side of the court, not the opposite. Which would have made that whole scene make more sense by the way.

[@LaughingGemini]

I was lost the entire episode. I couldn't wait for you guys to roast tf outta this and I wasn't disappointed lol .

[@ClassicSteve]

Ultron didn't wear a mask. Doesn't Bruce basically just have Ultron's severed head on display?!

[@HerohammerStudios]

Yeah, it's definitely an... interesting thing for him to have on display...

[@shawnm1902]

I feel like this is a new "please clap" meme in the making with she hulk.

[@swagman2250]

I love how Disney decided to make She Hulk a show because they think she's superfluous

[@firstlast9846]

*People keep saying* “Just wait until Daredevil’s depiction before you judge” but *HOW CAN YOU NOT JUDGE* ? The writers don’t give af about Hulk, Abomination or Cap so why do you think they’ll go “in all seriousness let’s do Daredevil seriously”

[@Fujtajblus]

AN hour in, I just watched the first episode. It was so horrible. All those feminist power fantasy lines "because I am better than you?" "calling yourself smart is very smug" "I can control my anger better than you becasue I get cat called or called emotional." I was eating dinner during pretty much listening to it and I almost threw up.

[@danishcartoonist545]

Meme and especially Fringy not immediately piping up about boxed or cask wine (a South Australian invention) hurts me deeply.

[@troglodytezero1697]

In Avengers 1. Hulk was not a child, he was like a Marvel's version of Mr. Hyde, Average 2 maybe the start and T.R. he was a kid

[@stormcutter59]

I love how whenever you guys have a girl on, they just happen to have the most attractive voices I've ever heard. First ThatStarWarsGirl and now this lol. I guess good taste attracts

[@Kernwadi]

Moist.

[@BudgieVengeance]

Nutsa does sound very hot

[@Сайтамен]

JLongbone counts?

[@stormcutter59]

@@Сайтамен Of course

[@panamacris]

The origin was twisted to swap who saved who. Period. a woman can never be saved by a man.

[@akashajones6079]

*anymore

[@theraven268]

The naming of "mansplaining" is entirely sexist. 1. Men act this way towards men. 2. Women act this way towards men. 3. Women do it to women. 4. YOU have done this to other people. In a lot of cases you need to have simple stuff explained to you, or you perhaps gave of the vibe that you do. And even if you really don't, there are tons of other people who have needed it before, which explains why some people would do this to you. The world isn't perfect, some people are thick in the head and need seemingly obvious shit explained to them.

[@KeonVioletWilkins]

Really cool to see past covered people being covered. Now we just need an Organized Chaos and Rags match live on EFAP.

[@bad-people6510]

3:06:42 The story is Marvel Comics heard a rumor that the Hulk TV show was going to do an episode with a female Hulk, so they quickly threw together and created She-Hulk so the TV studio couldn't copywrite the idea. And that's how She Hulk came to be. And it was STILL better written than this.

[@jotun_616]

I was glad they finally gave hollands spiderman his proper origin. Thats what was always missing for me, with his iteration. Iron man is no uncle ben.