Everything GREAT About Assassin's Creed Rogue!

[@ricegrain1809]

If we get a dollar whenever Shay says "I make my own luck", we'd be financially stable

[@nitanttrivedi6974]

i guess you could say that that way you "make some luck"?

[@ricegrain1809]

@@nitanttrivedi6974 making a good fortune aye

[@twinkletoes6442]

You mean "We'd be financially lucky"

[@rcctemplar5008]

I make my own buck

[@kylegoyak]

I dont to be given money for something like this. Because i make my own luck

[@TheMcFather]

If there’s one thing we learned about shay is that he makes his own luck

[@master_chief723]

didnt Arno did that too?

[@AtaiMuratbekov]

Luck is a myth.

[@sumitpatnaik4371]

Damn right

[@Hammerite12]

He does indeed. :)

[@thenexus8384]

The Irish Assassin turned Templar generates his own luck

[@GabrielComGMinusculo]

I loved this game, Shay is a great character and the way both the assassins and the templars acted made me have a different way to look at them, it's one of my favorite AC games

[@jbcatz5]

Unity also explores the blurred distinction between the groups, with both having internal dissension and members who support and oppose working together for the sake of Paris. For a game titled Unity, it’s deeply ironic the lack of it within both Assassin and Templars.

[@Joyful_Traitor]

With all the games I have always listened to what the Templars had to say when they have their last speech while they are dying and I have almost always agreed with what they have been trying to accomplish except for the Borgias

[@lordsathariel4384]

@@Joyful_Traitor templars believe end justifies the ends and people need a iron guide and assassins believe that free will is the only path and that everything is permitted but also believe no one should harm innocents

[@Joyful_Traitor]

@@lordsathariel4384 I am aware but as I said I have agreed with what they are trying to accomplish not how they are going about it and in all honesty humans need an iron guide

[@lordsathariel4384]

@@Joyful_Traitor tbh templars would have a easier time if they opted for assasins approach of free will would get people on board a lot easier even if it was a lie

[@MarkCrimson]

Win Counter 63: Shay has some of the best outfits in the entire series. Seriously, I love the outfits of this game. Even outfits that share a core design will have little touches that make each one unique, and show there was more attention done then just 'same outfit, but different color'. Shay really is the best dresser of the entire franchise.

[@nakeysnakey6220]

1,000 percent. Definitely the most variety in the classic "outfit" format. A lot of the story didn't really matter to me. I liked it but the fashion and gameplay was what kept bringing me back

[@RIXTDynsty]

Finally i see shay fans instead of ezio fans

[@Copperkaiju]

The first Assassin's Creed game that made me want to jump into the series and it was 90% because of his costume from the cover. Ended up playing Black Flag first but glad to finally get around to this one.

[@valerian8063]

I dressed Shay all in white (the Admiral Outfit if I'm correct) after beating all legendary ships.

[@Pagan20-08]

@MarkCrimson One thing I've noticed about many of the Assassins Creed Games, particularly those in the Kenway saga, is that the tail end of the Assassins robes have patterns that look like the Assassins symbol, Shay's Templar outfits detour from this trend

[@thepuertoricansoldie]

I love the fact that Rogue had better reviews than Unity. The "spin-off" was better than the "Main game", a testament tk the story of Rogue.

[@jediporg1245]

To be fair, that was mostly because Unity was borderline unplayable for a while.

[@JakeJones19]

lol no

[@Fike223]

@@jediporg1245 ye people overlooked the game because of the buggy mess it was at launch and it still is buggy but definitely better than rogue

[@dripsnake44]

@@Fike223 I didn’t get to play the game for very long due to the fact I had to sell my Xbox One sometime after I started the game, so I didn’t get far in the story, but I think I got enough for an opinion: both are equal. This is because the games are great in different ways. Rogue has the naval combat and good story, and Unity has badass parkour and better stealth mechanics.

[@VENENOSEASON]

Rogue is good but the fact you can’t duck or crouch just annoys me so much

[@luthesouza]

I always get the feeling that someone in Ubi really wanted to explore the gray area between Assassins and Templars and just make a good story like the old days and they just said "ok, you have a few months and our old engine, make it count" and boy did it count!

[@amz7828]

I'd love another game that explores this topic...maybe even something where you can actually choose sides? Like, you get to know both sides and at some point decide to join either the assassins or the templars and that way you can play both sides of the same story

[@sagethemage2650]

2 points I always viewed shay pulling up liams hood as a way to both respect his friend, and dehumanize the act of killing his best friend. Also interestingly (very small unity spoiler) the assassins are on the loosing side of the French revolution, siding with the nobility in most cases, and the templars are very sympathetic throughout

[@amz7828]

I literally finished Rogue like three days ago and when Liam died and Shay pulled up his hood i felt the need to hug Shay, he looked so depressed and hurt...and then, at the end, realising that none of Unity would have happened if it wasn't for Shay. Tbh it would've been awesome to spot Shay somewhere before Arnos father gets killed. Just like you could see Arno and Elise in Rogue

[@TheRealFernancoTachanka]

​​@@trueegypt6952 makes sense to the phrase "then perhaps we shall start a revolution of our own" quoted by shay

[@dianafonseca1650]

Being portuguese myself, that Lisbon earthquake section blew my mind. Of ocurse, it's always something that we learned in history books - how the great earthquake of November 1st 1755, followed by a tsunami, ravaged downtown Lisbon completely, causing the estimated deaths to be at around 10 000 to 100 000 (relative to the source you read) - but actually seeing it first hand? The screaming, the perfect use of Portuguese to convey the fear and horror of the scene. I didn't know this event would be portrayed in an AC game, and when I saw the date, my heart sank immediately. Because again, every portuguese citizen knows about this earthquake! And it's the perfect catalyst for Shay. Like you so brilliantly said in your video, it's the one drop too many that tips the scale. His resolve was already wavering, but after that? His heart was set. Like you said, I love that Rogue isn't black and white. But honestly? I feel like the Assassins will never be as great as back when they were under Ezio's leadership. Many mentors tried, but none ever quite succeeded. And the Colonial Brotherhood was just alllll the way messed up. Seriously, Achilles speaks like a typical templar villain in so many moments. If Altaïr showed us what the Brotherhood could be, and if Ezio showed us what the Brotherhood should be, then Shay showed us what the Brotherhood looks like when it falls in incapable hands. Achilles was too proud to be the Mentor this brotherhood needed. And even after he's defeated, he still brainwashes Connor into killing his own father. Sure, Connor was dead set on killing Lee, but Achilles redirects that anger towards Haytham, making Connor believe that Lee only acted under Haytham's orders, when it was not the case. And Connor only realizes his mistake much too late, when he reads his dead father's journal. He's too late to admit that he was wrong, and Haytham was right. Achilles poisoned the Brotherhood, and Connor, and only with his death did Connor show the resolve to rebuild a better Brotherhood through his perseverence.

[@pasandesilva2295]

Masterfully written... Bravo!

[@RurouniiJay]

Well said brother, agreed

[@amaarali-ateamtv]

Ah, yes the Assassins Creed game where the bad guy has a very good reason to be a bad guy.

[@DeathMessenger1988]

The other games' Templars probably had their own reasons too, especially III and Black Flag. It's just that Ubisoft isn't very good with moral spectrum, especially when they get political and PC Twitter-oriented with the fucking plot lol!

[@ahmedsachwani2868]

@@DeathMessenger1988 up until 3 the templars didn’t have a good reason to be bad. Ac 3 is where we start seeing that the templars ACTUALLY do want good for the people

[@amaarali-ateamtv]

@@ahmedsachwani2868 ac3 was when the black and white of each side began to turn grey

[@DeathMessenger1988]

@@ahmedsachwani2868 Uh... AC 1 = The Templars are already moving to try and get the Apple of Eden so they can start their New World Order. Quite a few of them make it clear that they intend to oppose both the Catholic Church and the Saracens. AC 2 & Brotherhood = ... Yeah, okay, you're right there. Renaissance Templars (save maybe Emilio Barbarigo) are pretty shitty, which is actually acknowledge by Modern Templars. Though I read somewhere that the Borgias plotline could have been made way better if the writers explored all the prejudice Rodrigo faced for being a Jew-descended Spaniard in Italy, and needless to say that Cesare Borgia was completely wasted for the sake of making him "Joffrey Expy". AC Revelations: Ahmet actually WANTS to help and unite the world, which he makes clear to Ezio. We get to see plenty of Templar Agents have their own reasons and justifications for doing what they do. When you get down to it, Ottoman Assassins and Byzantine Templars are basically killing over an old cultural grudge and a locked-up library that, as far as they knew, is full of old books and maps. I think the best thing about Rogue is one question Shay asks Achilles: What gives the _Assassins_ the right to decide the future of countries and humanity? There is the greatest paradox regarding the Assassin's Creed: they claim they want mankind to decide its own fate and create a peaceful world... but aren't Templars humans too? Why are ANY efforts of their part to do exactly that so inacceptable and wrong? Sure, they're wrong in wanting to enslave people using the Pieces of Eden, but the Assassins got it into their heads at some point that only THEY are in the right when they do anything. Killing people, manipulating politicians, clerics and governments, theft, working with thieves, prostitutes and mercenaries, causing and manipulating wars or disasters, deciding what people should be able to do or think, using the Pieces of Eden to experiment and uncover secrets and then holding monopoly on how such secrets are used, taking advantage of people's tragedies to convert them into more Assassins (if not indoctrinate them from birth) and then kill them if they don't do as you say? It's only okay when THEY do it. When the Templars, the Hermeticists or anyone else try it? Hidden Blade to the neck, screaming that "mankind isn't ready" and "you're the bad guy cause you killed my [insert relative]". (Sidenote: Maybe Nixon was an Assassin?! MIND. BLOWN.) Like Edward Kenway once said, the Templars may want to be the guy who controls all the water during a drought so he can tell people what to do... but the Assassins as a whole are like Achilles. They do what they do, and don't really put any thought or care in the devastation they leave in their wake. They may feel a little guilt and doubt, but go back to thinking their Creed and ideals of freedom justify anything and everything 5 seconds later. When you really think about it, the Assassins are no different from any religion, political ideology (right or left) or social cause. Ironically, when you get down to it, both Assassins and Templars are still just playing the Isu's game and in fact still worship them to some degree; only difference is that the Templars want to BE the new Isu, while the Assassins are still acting like religious cults finding "sacred artifacts", hiding it away in fear and (unconscious) adoration. Unfortunately, it looks like Ubisoft itself has failed to learn the very message their game subconsciously carries.

[@ahmedsachwani2868]

@@DeathMessenger1988 bruh I skimmed over what you said and you completely missed the point of what I said. Ahmet wanted to unite and rule as the king he was greedy also about 3/4 of your reply was pointless I’m here talking about templars how the game described them not individual characters perception. Ac 2 every Templar was legit as asshole none of them wanted good for the people they were all greedy just wanting power. Ac1 however you are right they were invested in the good of the people. Brotherhood did not even have templars Borgia is a completely different organization Cesare wanted to rule of Italia and was full of greed he literally killed 2 of his brother in laws for his incest sister. AC3 is where haytam points out how the assassins who once worked for peace are now just idiots who think they have the right to “guide” humanity like how shay asked the assassins. Shays question came after AC3 that was my point. After AC3 did we actually start seeing the grey area of templars that was my actual point. You missed the point and shot god knows where you wrote an entire irrelevant paragraph. First read then process then type dude

[@GabrielComGMinusculo]

I clicked right way, Shay is one of my favorite characters in this universe

[@evancreagh4663]

He would be one of mine...IF HE SHUT UP ABOUT LUCK!

[@akbarilhammerdeka7160]

@@evancreagh4663 well the assasin use fate. He use luck just like that nothing wrong with it

[@bigyoshi5170]

@@evancreagh4663 he makes his own luck, *Evan*

[@POWERGRINDSET]

@@evancreagh4663 just cuz u have no luck doesnt mean u have to hate on others that do

[@evancreagh4663]

@@POWERGRINDSET we both know he only says that because he is Irish and luck of the Irish ect and it would just so happen I am Irish

[@WilliamDoheny]

The first time I played Rogue was when it was released alongside of Unity. What I loved about this game was how easy they made it for me to empathize with Shay. I understood his betrayal of the Assassins. I also felt his sadness & struggle with hunting down his former friends & allies. To me, it felt like he was slowly seduced into joining the Templars. It didn’t have the cliche, ham fisted feel of “Well, they betrayed me so I’ll join the other side to spite them”. Shay initially just wanted to keep people safe from the rush to grab power that both sides were caught up in. Rogue was a fairly short game but Ubisoft did a great job with Shay & his story.

[@chaospatriot76]

Having now finished Valhalla, I just realized that the little medallion Shay wears at his hip is an Order of the Ancients medallion... neat.

[@backupaccount6341]

do you think they got the idea for the medallions from Shay or was it planned to be included in a later game?

[@Hammerite12]

@@backupaccount6341 I think the medallions represents the isu temples, and Shay wearing it symbolizes that he's a guardian of those temples, protecting them from those who would want to disturb them, just like is shown in the game.

[@DrawPG]

You can also see it on Otso Berg's Jacket In AC Rogue, revealing him to either be a descendant of the Order or maybe Shay or he wants to keep Assassins out of places that can destory countries and end many innocent lives.

[@mickiethompson1815]

I liked how AC Rogue took us into the footsteps of a Templar. Sometimes the Assassin's could be wrong too.

[@mr-mr-101]

I found the counter-Assassin stuff super interesting and it got me thinking on an idea for an AC game. What if you were on the run from both the Templars and the Assassins? Maybe you pissed them both off and got exiled from one or maybe you have a friend/love interest whose secretly in the other group and you decide to say "fuck it" to the cycle of violence of the two orders and try to bring them both down so the secret war can finally end. Assassins would use the stalkers and snipers to try to take you down from a bush or a ledge while the Templar would have their own goons and fancy weapons they've always been able to buy. It would be interesting to see the betrayal not be immediately known by everyone in both orders so you could have a mission of protecting the Templar and then in the next you're infiltrating a Templar hideout for the Assassins while they still mostly believe you are a Templar. Maybe you could get the two sides to fight each other like if you drag a Templar patrol to an Assassin hideout, they'd start fighting and you could make an escape instead of trying to fight both sides at once. This would be perfect for a Cold War-era setting with the theme of spies and double agents, being constantly hunted by two very powerful organizations who do not want you to live but ultimately have much larger beef with the other org. But I know AC doesn't like very modern settings so it could be set in the West with themes of freedom (from both orgs and the cycle) and what happens after you previously gave your life to a cause you no longer believe in.

[@sergeyoneill1344]

I love the emotion in Liam's voice, right before Chavellie shoots him. The Liam/Shay relationship feels like a hollowed out version of the Obi-Wan and Anakin relationship. Which is probably my favourite fictional relationship.

[@olahmundo]

They really need to make more gray stories, even going as far as having more Templar protagonists if need be. I didn't like this one as much because of the short rushed story, but the potential is great and Shay is amazing. Maybe I just miss the good ol' assassins and templars conflict

[@PUNISHERMHS_2021]

We all miss the Assassins vs Templars stories

[@jcmee91]

Maybe a Templar turned Assassin this time.

[@GideonGrimmGaming]

I’ve said for years that I want an American Civil War AC game where you can start as a Templar or an Assassin (or even a free agent at first) and then choose to defect. They’re going after a more RPG style genre and I’d love to see this concept.

[@nnoir]

Same I like the potential of exploring Templar stories but Rogue puts a stain on the Assassin name. A lot of ignorant people think the Assassins are the bad guys now just because of the terrible actions and decisions made by ONE BRANCH of the Assassin Brotherhood. Also people say Shay is doing what Ezio and Altair would do but that's extremely wrong.

[@davidschneider9145]

@noir While the assassins definitely aren’t the bad guys, Shay still did what Altaïr and Ezio would have done. Remember what Altaïr did when Abbas took over the order?

[@saykee10]

1:30 in and i liked the video just for the "Estaban Julio Ricardo Montoya De La Rosa Ramirez" reference. Brought me back!

[@shannizlmcsnizzl579]

I am a simple man. I see GamingWins uploads a video, i hit like

[@joseph-cs1pq]

Who isn't

[@Samuraiedge1607]

I second this

[@amaarali-ateamtv]

Well, aren't we all simple. We go about are lives waiting for something, anything... And there a 'vvrr' "What must that be?" You think to yourself. You take out your phone to see that GamingWins has uploaded a brand new, home grown, completely fresh video for us all to watch. (This is how I talk/write at 2am imma head to sleep now)

[@mirabile1221]

@@amaarali-ateamtv damn you need some rest my guy

[@amaarali-ateamtv]

@@mirabile1221 I'm all better and rested now

[@eqWillibrium]

Never played Rogue, but I LOVED that Unity foreshadowing.

[@danieltroelsen331]

Once you move on to unity, please notice the fact that the assassins (who represent chaos and change) try to tone down and control the revolution, whereas the templars (who represent order and stability) let the revolution run amok. A nice play on their respective themes. Great vid by the way :)))

[@cyberclawterror950]

What I would give for another AC game that revolves around Shay, his story clearly isn’t just quite finished… Not to mention it’s implied that Shay is one of, if not the most important Assassin in history.

[@ezrahollow3662]

I completely agree that he's the most important character.

[@knightmare5097]

I’d disagree on the importance but ok

[@henreh.]

why @@knightmare5097

[@Dankumemes]

i loved shay's story from becoming disillusioned with the assassin order to basically creating his own version of the templar order. would have been nice if unity had shay has the final boss or something like that

[@lxckystars__]

“why did jarl balgruuf just peek inside my assassins creed game” that was unreasonably funny

[@natalielyric2950]

I always loved that Rogue let you kill innocents and get bounty hunters after you, immediately showing the difference between the assassins and the templars. Also, the reveal cinematic they made for this game gives me chills to this day.

[@alfha1399]

My favourite game and character Adewale: Hell welcomes traitors like you. Shay: Then I go there proudly, knowing I have done right.

[@logankirchhof6148]

I remember getting this game one day. I played it for an hour and put it back down for a few years. Until I recently decided to dust it off from my shelf and give it another chance and I'm glad that I did. AC Rogue is my favorite AC game to date because it flipped the script and let you see both sides of the same coin.

[@Red_Eyed_Rebel]

Really glad that you decided to make a video about AC Rogue, Ac Rogue was actually my introduction to the series and it always has a special place to me, I honestly never understood the hate this game got

[@Ilikeairvents24]

It’s usually the Ezio fans that never shut the fuck up about a game that’s not remotely close to the game they like

[@BrickFleetwood]

The best part of having the assassins stalk us is when they start setting traps or double teaming you.

[@jbetr9191]

You’re productivity is insane ... A French fan :)

[@nikoliaskos2596]

When I played Rouge, i was left with 2 thoughts. 1. Noooooo i dont wanna kill Ade or sink the Experto Crede 2. i want a game, where you pick one of the sides, and build your own group in a nation. That way, you can decide what direction you take, and how you take it. That for me would be the best nuanced AC game

[@Everik-ct6pg]

5:11 I never noticed that detail. Really enhanced the story for me, i love it.

[@38siddhiwinayaks58]

The best thing is that you always look at the best of the characters and give me more reasons to love the characters I already like. Hats off.Great job as usual.

[@noot_noot__]

I remember playing this game when I was younger, man I loved it. Just playing as someone who was previously an assassin turned rogue because their mentor let them down is so, cool in many ways, being able to experience the other side. This game will have a special place in my heart because of how fun and good it was. One of the best AC games created.

[@CanadianViking1]

This video couldn't hit this game home any better, my absolute favorite AC game. For every playthrough of any other AC game I always come back to this.

[@C_Cooke]

Love the modern day detail that the statuette of Edward Kenway you got in 4 is now lying on the ground because Rogue takes place after Edward’s death.

[@dethincarnate1149]

I liked this game, glad they remastered it, need to play it again

[@cardoso1313]

They really didn’t remastered it. It’s literally the same. But what really matters it’s that we can play it.

[@Eriereda]

I’ll take rogue over odyssey and Valhalla any day

[@aaronsanborn4291]

Rogue is very good but I really liked Oddessey. 3 is still my favorite.

[@vexon3.145]

I agree but odyssey is better than Valhalla can we agree?

[@liszt646]

@@vexon3.145 I agree

[@frankhorriganfromfallout2]

@@vexon3.145 Valhalla is fun in my experience but I haven’t played that far . Does it get worse?

[@williamjones3177]

I really enjoyed Odyssey mainly because I love everything about ancient Greece, however it was not an assassin creed game. If Rogue was a full game it would be right up there with brotherhood and black flag. Just my opinion.

[@raymondirani4812]

10:26 the fact that haytham proceeds to shoot Achilles in the knee as if to give a reason to why Achilles limps in ac3 is just dope

[@umpanz1101]

The best thing about this game is how it connects the others. Not only by trivia, but also by action. Wounding Achilles, assassinating Arnos father, this stuff.

[@ahmedsachwani2868]

I loved the name cormac as it roughly goes to a myth of the bird thinking it’s an eagle. The eagle being the assassins thing while shay being similar to the assassins but not an assassin so he is a cormac. This also plays out into the argument haytam holds against Connor about assassins being peaceful once but not anymore the colonial assassins really did fail

[@SpeedDemon55]

There’s a lot of great things in Assassins Creed Rogue. The naval combat protagonist music opening open world and Shay being Irish. Great to see some fantastic representation. There was a lot of great improvements from Black Flag but overall I prefer Black Flag because of its story. Adewale and Haytham were in the game as well so that’s a huge bonus as their my second and third favourite Assassins Creed characters.

[@cycloneabsol9405]

One minor touch I love between this game and AC4: Edward closes the eyes of every single one of his victims. He kills them, but he at least treats them with respect, no matter how much he hated them. Shay doesn't, even when he's killing someone who used to be his best friend. Just a small touch that goes to show his character. Edit: when I wrote this, Black Flag and Rougue were the only AC games I'd played. I still haven't played most of the Desmond games, but I have played 1 and 2, and my point stands even more. Altair's only action is swiping a feather to prove he killed them. Ezio says something sweet and respectful, and tells them "Requiescat in pace." Edward closes their eyes. Shay just walks away.

[@bencreezay]

“I make my own luck” is a less well known, but common Irish saying, at least it was in my family. That’s why I wasn’t surprised or thought it was overused. It usually comes hand in hand with someone calling us lucky

[@connormulkey4776]

First game I played, loved it so much I had to play it again. Shay really made me reflect on myself, the Assassin v Templar conflict rages with the 7 years war (one of my favorite history periods) throughout colonial America (one of my favorite settings) and we're in the middle, its beautiful. Also, the soundtrack freaking slaps

[@25Erix]

Ezio's Family is so prevalent in the series that I pretty much say it's become the theme song for the entire franchise, even as we dig into Assassins who have no connection, blood or otherwise, to Desmond's lineage. Edit to add: Rogue shows us why the American Brotherhood fell to pieces and I get some catharsis knowing that everything Shay did is ultimately undone by Connor. Kind of shows the simple truth that ideas are functionally immortal. One of the only ways to kill them is to kill their believers before they spread it. Achillies was left alive, so the Brotherhood continued to endure into the Revolutionary Era. Edit Edit to add: I got a huge kick out of learning Liam's full name: Liam O'Brien. It's as Irish as it comes but one of my favorite VAs literally shares that name.

[@DreadfulDruid]

I loved this game when I got it. A view from a templar's perspective? Absolutely flipped the script on any other ac game. I couldn't help but love what was happening, and how this game connected itself into the ac universe. Amazing

[@joseph-cs1pq]

I've heard alot of people preferring shay and rogue to the rest of the kenway saga, but frankly I like black flag more

[@Guardian582]

i think thats because for most of it(havent finished but came close), pretty sure Edward doesnt buy into their creed, and sees them AND the templars much like Shay did, and is more of a pirate then an assassin, he has his own motivations that do not coincide(usually) with the creed, its only when hes shown something much larger that he joins them

[@Hammerite12]

@@Guardian582 Yes, but actually no. Edward just wanted to get rich, while the Assassins wanted to create peace through freedom. That was shown to Edward when he first met the Brotherhood, but he didn't joined them because at that time he didn't care about peace or being part of something greater, he just wanted gold. Later, after realising that gold doesn't bring happiness and that almost all his friends died because of conflicts and templar influence, he realises that joining the Assassins can help stop those conflicts and avoid innocent loses.

[@Fike223]

@@Hammerite12 and that's why Edward deserves a sequel (sadly an RPG one)

[@lainsechoes]

I would love to see a crossover video of gamingwins and cinemawins

[@Tredhd]

That would be fire!

[@crooked9542]

I really loved the name of his ship. Other than the Arthurian connection, she’s the Irish goddess of death and victory.

[@georgethomas4567]

This low-key might be my favorite Assassin's Creed... To watch this man see the Assassins fail those they are meant to protect. Then attempt to straight up murder one of their own for simply questioning and trying to fix their mistake. Then to see the Templars kinda be the good guys showing that very little stands between the two groups. And Ubisoft actually nailed this detail in the background/modern story with Desmond straight saying as much in the audio files.

[@georgethomas4567]

Also I agree the only thing keeping this from being one of the greatest AC titles is length. Even doing all the side stuff it's barely 8-10 hours and that's super short imo

[@notsocuteonion]

I played this game on release, didn't watch trailers or reviews. And it shocked me, how good the story was. It was, sometimes a bit rushed, but it still was good. Everything you talked about, was my thoughts when I was done with the game. Thank you, for reminding me about it. I'll go and replay it

[@Jsharkey87]

I really like Rogue despite its faults, and there are several. I consider it the seventh main title in the franchise, instead of a last gen spin off at the time which Ubi clearly regarded it as. Over time the game I've found has got a lot of love as a great spiritual successor to Black Flag.

[@advaitkhedkar3299]

Loved this game, was a bit too short, but loved whatever I got. Shay is seriously badass..The outfits make him look even more so. The opening music and the menu thingy where assassin logo turns into Templar cross is brilliant . New weapons make the game a lot more enjoyable . The new game mechanics are cool too. Morrigan obliterating almost everything is so satisfying to see. But I would've loved to see Shay in another game, maybe unity. Where Arno actually tries to hunt for Shay in a DLC. Maybe they could've brought Connor back and Connor guides Arno to hunt and kill Shay. Shay's story was left open.

[@evildoctortaco]

Rogue’s naval stuff is way more fun to me solely because of the better ship and the different environment. Sailing around the subarctic in a snowstorm at night dodging waves while fighting a small fleet is JUST SO COOL. Black Flag is arguably better overall but, damn if I don’t love the North Atlantic

[@scottyoshihara2458]

I just noticed that the scar that shay has on his face can be seen as a mark of betrayal from the assassins.

[@ru_gamerandotaku2431]

A assassin's creed game where you get to choose on who you side with where its a different equipment and ending depending on wich side you chose i think that would be a good game

[@thegoodstuff6130]

After a load of poorly done gamingsins videos by ''Some british guy''. It's nice to hear another chirpy voice (The other I refer to is Cinemawins) give my favourite games their due praise, while giving me fun facts I never knew, its rare I get excited to see new videos so very well done! :)

[@spiderrocket8367]

Cinema Wins and Gaming Wins back to back ? It’s a good day

[@shirez1654]

Little hidden fact. The symbol on Shay's chest we know it as the ''The templars'' But it's actually the black cross. Black cross is basically the good templars. They are the ones called when a Templar turns rogue or makes people suffer. It would be nice to see another game with Shay as he takes care of a corrupted Templar group and make it right. I love the Assassin's as much as I love the Templars. Each with their sides. As you put it greatly. Humans will always be in the gray. Black Cross are the Elite Templars that believe in controlled freedom. While Master Assassin's (Ezio, Altair, Achilies in AC3) are the one's responsible to lead their brotherhood into Absolute Freedom path. Both groups want the same goal. Only different ways to achieve it. Love Assassin's Creed Lore.

[@christianfarren1179]

Got into the remaster of this recently, surprisingly good. Only 2 pet peeves of mine -The world map feels smaller than Black Flag, especially out at sea. -The premise felt very forced. I get that we need to have Shay go rogue somehow, but did the other Assassins have to be so cartoonishly arrogant? Granted, the Templars are the ones telling the story here. There’s bound to be a biased perspective, but they were practically giving him all the reasons to defect rather than let it happen naturally.

[@bigyoshi5170]

Rogue should’ve been the only assassins creed game of 2014, the story could’ve been longer without the company having to work on two games at once and honestly between Unity and Rogue, the premise of a rogue assassin is much more interesting than a French Ezio.

[@Sekaidestroyer]

Wait, wait- Ezio ans Arno are not really alike? I guess you could mention the fact they were both raised in wealthy families but even this isn't really the thing, as Ezio was literally the son with no responsibilities of the a rich banker and Arno was lowkey a servant. He wasn't adopted. Not to mention that Ezio was strongly moved by the desire of vengeance. Til the point it stopped being logical to him. Arno wasn't moved at all at first. He kept on falling into weirder and weirder situations and wanted to get out of them. He didn't want to get involved. But the decision was taken away from him repeatedly until he finally said 'to the heck with it, if I can't escape, I will at least do it my style.' I do admit it that i would love to see a longer story for Shay, maybe a confrontation between the two of them (Or Arno with Shay's offspring) but Ubi won't give us the satisfaction 🥺

[@MrChristyCree]

One of my favourite AC games. Man, I really wish Jewbisoft could get back to these sorts of AC games.

[@jbcatz5]

You will enjoy Unity on a thematic level. There are Assassins and Templars who are sympathetic and antagonistic, the disunity between the social classes of Paris also shown within the French Assassins and Templars.

[@robday3695]

If Achilles question the Isu map and what it show (the locations of several Seismic Temples), Lisbon and the temple in Haiti would safe to this day and France would be a monarchy for a little longer.

[@Virtualsinner]

this is one of the better wrap ups from this game , short , understandable in every minute of it and of course the fact that it's your favorite assassin's creed game really shows that you have a sense for taste

[@lukasthompson6059]

If Shay and Connor sat down and talked, I think the Templars and Assassin's would've came together in the America's. So long as Connor didn't outright kill Shay on sight. 😅

[@valerian8063]

Interesting point you're making here! I'd love to see that!

[@CarlJohnson234]

Definitely loved this game, such a shame it was so short. Wanna see more of templar perspective in future 🤩

[@alamo134]

I even wish Ubi even gives more Templar experince for player. If there's game such "Templar's Order" instead of "Assassin's Creed", it could've been great. Or at least gives game to explain why Templar become greater as the time goes.

[@rayortiz3060]

GamingWins, Im new to the channel but Ive been binging all of ur AC vids. Love the work bro

[@pardusprime8643]

I really liked ACR both because of the Assassins maybe not always the great benevolent anarchists they're painted as, but also because of the changes to gameplay. I also learned a lot about the F&I War not included in my formal education, and I remember saying 'nuh-uh that's malarkey' about the air rifle before finding out it's real and actually existed. Very excellent companion piece to Unity, where the Assassins are depicted as out of touch weirdos.

[@thetwentyseventh27]

AC rogue was one of the greatest story driven games that explore the fov of the baddies I ever experienced. The game was shaded by the release of AC unity, a game so blunt and broken that Rogue flew under EVERYONES radar. The game only improved since black flag and we get to see Alasca + the frontier,NY, and Boston remastered since AC3. And one little neatpicky thing I loved was that online events such as white whales and community treasures got the boot. It was so frustrating to get those in black flag. Also small changes in naval combat that was just making it better. Great game.

[@pirateraider1708]

I think you forgot to credit its great style, (not just the locations, but also the outfits, the ship, and the stuff you can customize the ship with,) and how awesome the rope dart was, especially for hunting.

[@BrickFleetwood]

What fortuitous timing. I've just been playing through the remastered version. One of my favourite AC games, I just wish there was more of Shay and Haytham. I would have loved a couple extra sequences of Templars just Templaring.

[@jbcatz5]

The tie in novel for Assassin’s Creed III, titled Forsaken, is all about Haytham as it’s his journal entries from his childhood until just before his final encounter with Connor.

[@BrickFleetwood]

@@jbcatz5 Yeah, I read that. It was cool but it made me sad reading about Edward's fate and how things could have been different.

[@noobinc.286]

Yo it's my main man Shay! Nice to see a nother AC video keep up the good work

[@Finbars9]

I won't spoil unity, but it's surprisingly unbiased in its presentation of the conflict. There's clearly "bad guys" but the lines are more blurred than normal

[@goku23455]

I just wanted to say i love you videos and i think you should have so much more subscribers! you deserve it!

[@JynxedKoma]

GamingWins: ".................No words needed." Shay: *"I make my own luck, Liam."* GamingWins: *"FUCK!!!"*

[@grandpagucci8282]

Thank you so much for doing this game and showing the best things about it and showing shay is as sticking to his code I loved the video you did great as you always do I only had one problem with it and it was you didn’t wear the Templar outfit but the interim one was also nice to see

[@758kixx]

Currently playing this and I love it..I honestly don't get the hate it gets from some quarters of the fan base

[@ruinfox4108]

You should do black flag next. great game good story

[@camjacl2547]

When I was younger of course I always wanted the assassins win. The revolutionaries are always the “heroes” if they win. Grabbing power from those who corrupt. But this game and growing up really changed that. No one is always the good guy. Too much Chaos is just as bad as total dictatorship. There’s a grey area in there that must be determined. Layla from the new gen assassins creed games was a great concept. A templar that went to the assassins for valid reasons. The grey area. Someone who understands both are necessary and there isn’t a true answer. Granted these two organizations go back and forth and kill millions throughout history but it was started after going after corruption. It’s a really great concept that needs to be explored more. I hope the grey line gets more obvious and I don’t find myself rooting for the assassins as much as I used to.

[@mr.drhouse0609]

I love the fact that ac rogue's ending is ac unity's beginning

[@e-train765]

SUCH an underrated gem in the series

[@matthewmarsden5354]

I was singing the song “comedy” to myself while watching this and you go and quote it?! I refuse to believe this was a coincidence. 😂

[@Redrock20]

Im currently getting the platinum in this game so i was so happy when i saw this video

[@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015]

This is why I would side with the Templars; a world in which people can do whatever the fuck they want is not a world that I look forward to. Even though many of them take the control thing a little too far, it is better than complete chaos and an utter breakdown of social order.

[@dylanels8307]

I dig your approach to games and stories man. Love the content.

[@CD-Gaming]

I'm actually from the North of England and am of Irish heritage, my family originally hailing from Cork, so a combination of an Irish protagonist and more Haytham, well, let's jus say, I have the Platinum Trophy on PS3, 1000 Gamerscore on 360 and really want it for PS4 (jus maybe wait for the price to come down a little bit more first)!

[@BenSolo09]

1:20 - Do we have permission to just going to call GamingWins "Steve" now?

[@Luckyshift09]

2:54 I still love the Skyrim references, and will always point them out. I am still waiting for that video game

[@juggalochef2399]

Love that this is a video that exists. By far, it is easily in my top 3 AC titles & found it to be a great disservice that not more fans of the franchise opted to dive into this title. While I have yet to play Unity (all those bugs sorta turned me off from it, but perhaps now they're fixed?) However, this title brought the best elements of 3 & Black Flag while also re-contextualizing them both & broadening the scope of the story as a whole in a way that ... if only marketing had leaned more into all told.

[@Artobacco]

I have a great memory in my mind where I was playing as shay and picked up a dudes heavy axe and I walked up to a guard and slammed it in his skull splitting it open. Best AC game btw Edit: bought the game last week, and now I have a problem. I can’t stop splitting skulls with the axe

[@gymleaderjoey1371]

I never thought I could find a in Assassin's Creed game better than Black Flag until I played Rogue it's the only Assassin's Creed game I have the platinum trophy on

[@ethanlappin]

I loved rogue from the first time I played it and appreciated that they put something out there for those who, by choice or necessity, stuck with the PS3 a little longer than most. I think I've only played it twice in full but both times it struck me as an amazing story and a true shame it's often the one most omitted from people's assassin's creed history, especially because of the chills I get being the one to kill Charles Dorian at the end that makes me want to play unity (and frankly unity needs all the help it can get).

[@abuzaralishah5133]

This man just keeps winning hearts, great job brother ❤

[@Zaeikil]

2:52 I've played so much Skyrim I knew I recognized that voice instantly

[@LordDial]

PV-man! That really was quick. Don't overwork yourself ^^ I really liked the idea of this game, seein the other side. Beside some comics the only other time that happened - or was tried, rather - as far as I remember was the 'story' of the online multiplayermode from I think it was AC Revelations. There were even some cutscenes with Vidic and all. And of course the pretty mind blowing beginning of AC III.

[@traviscummings9178]

A small but important thing I think you looked over is the fact that in the wake of Connor's death, Shay says that Achilles looked furious rather than grieving. This is just my speculation, but it leads me to believe that he poured his pain and loss into the Assassins, blinding him to the dangers of pursuing the Precursor sites. It isn't until he sees the site in the Arctic for himself that he finally sees clearly Also, I’m surprised you didn’t count when Haytham shoots Achilles in the leg. He’s understanding enough when Shay outlines his reasons for keeping him alive, but at the end of the day, he’s still ruthless enough to leave Achilles with a permanent reminder of his failure.

[@mytoesitch8256]

I love this game so much, been replaying it on my switch recently. Had over 400 hours in it on 360

[@catfoy8888]

Yeah I’ve always felt bad for Shay you know accidentally causing 60,000 deaths of innocents

[@greendemon905]

Shay changing sides was done very well, in my opinion. Some characters become either too whiny or too heartless when they betray their former allies, but Shay had a good balance. The first 2 sequences of the game also show very early how far removed he is from the other Assassins and the Creed. Liam, Hope and Kesegowaase often treat Shay as below them, or hold information from him, and nothing needs to be said about Chevalier. Wardrop's assassination is also an important moment. Shay at that point doesn't fully understand what the Templars truly represent, and simply accuses him of generic villainy, which Wardrop easily refutes. It's clear that while Shay is a great Assassin, it's not where he belongs. Absurdly nice as he may be, Colonel Monro was an integral part of Shay's turn. He not only represented the nobler sides of the Templars, but he also instantly treated Shay as an equal, unlike the Assassins. His death at the hands of Liam was the last push Shay needed to join the Templars. And I just like some of his lines. "Freedom from want is the greatest freedom of all" and "Money is a means to an end, not an end itself". I love Christopher Gist. Not just as a character, but what he means for Shay. Shay started of as a light-hearted jokester, but he became a lot more serious when he started working with the Templars. Gist was just as funny as Shay used to be, and I like to think he stuck around to keep Shay from dipping too far into depression.

[@amkobasic4849]

This was my favorite assassins creed and still is to this date, just like you I loved seeing the story from the other perspective