Everything I COULDN'T say on TV. Reacting to my outrageous debate.

[@ed.winters]

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[@v.a.n.e.]

hahaha, I knew you were upset over your debate loss with this gentleman. however, you have made no changes; the show has already aired, and a large number of people who saw it did not see your video response.

[@linauna]

I really want to write you the arguments the astrologer I consulted, gave me about why we as humans, should eat meat, she needs to be on a debate! 😅😝

[@linauna]

Is the book is going to be available in spanish soon?

[@ExcellentSunset]

I would have said “Martin, do you actually think that’s true and not an absolutely ridiculous statement that you’re making for some particular reason of trying to sway people to just continue eating meat? Do you really think that animals are treated better when humans are not being bred for slaughter? Are we forcibly impregnating human women? Are we keeping humans in pens of their own feces waiting to be killed so we can then eat them? Are you absolutely deranged?” Now… I may not have said that on television. But maybe I would have!

[@seanmoynihan7471]

Vegan playing the victim,surprise, surprise, got your ass whipped by a big thick farmer,sour grapes i would say,.Interestly you never mention the 160 million in forced agricultural labour (slavery they should be in school).the syrian refugees picking nuts for IOU'S (think about your vegan roast)the morracan migrants picking soft fruit in Spain, the gang master take their passports ,some of the women are raped others forced into prostitution, the African migrants in Italy picking citrus and tomatoes controlled by the Mafia they take their passports again no rights.Even in England they caught ROMANIAN children picking spring onions inclose to ZERO temperatures no food or eater, they were as young as 7,yes your diet is ethical

[@Fruit_bee]

Im from Ukraine. and this farmers president has no right to use me as an excuse to continue to kill and abuse animals. Thank you Ed for a great and sane video , Love

[@v.a.n.e.]

how does he use you as an excuse?

[@thewildwoodlandgarden.420]

@@v.a.n.e. he's talking about the way people treat others, saying that animals for food are being treated better than humans, giving the current situation in Ukraine as an example. It's a distraction.

[@v.a.n.e.]

it is perfectly clear to me what he was saying. what I don't get is why she thinks she was used as a justification. @@thewildwoodlandgarden.420

[@thewildwoodlandgarden.420]

@@v.a.n.e. In a round about way, it kinda is. I think he's just using distractions, the biggest one being about the highest standards of welfare in the world-that certainly doesn't equate to being cruelty free, free from suffering or violence. It doesn't take much to having higher standards than China, the middle east, the US and some countries in eastern europe. So I think the talk about the animals for food being treated better tha some humans are being treated is a distraction, but humans will use any distractions to justify what they do or make themselves feel better about it, so we get, 'ahh, they're being treated better than my boss treats me, and farm animals don't have to work, and they do 't have to suffer like me and other humans, and look at thosehumans in the war zones' etc.

[@v.a.n.e.]

ok, I got it. you don't want to talk about what Fruit Bee was trying to say, your focus is on what he wanted to say, and it seems more interesting to you. how would you personally assess the situation in Ukraine? have you thought about it? @@thewildwoodlandgarden.420

[@WaddyMuters]

You can see the marketing team going into overdrive for this interview. The guys accent, clothes and even the backdrop are on point. They are basically try selling this guy as a tolkienesque hobbit that’s just woken up from under an oak tree taking a nap while watching his sheep only to be harassed by the ungrateful youths. That’s what they try to sell a romanticized fairytale. Who cares if it’s all lies, the people want to be lied to. Because the reality of the meat industry is so unbelievably horrible, it can’t be defended with honesty.

[@Nissenov]

He actually looks like someone who smoked too much Pipe-weed ;)

[@sarahkybett933]

Such a brilliant comment, I loved it !

[@goranbreskic4304]

Haha! What a description! 👍

[@WaddyMuters]

@@goranbreskic4304 Thanks. I just hate how dishonest this all is. It’s so transparent what’s going on here. This was just a nice story for the people who don’t want to be upset by the truth. It’s amazing how easy it is, for PR and marketing agencies, to lie to people that want to be lied to. You‘d think most people would care more the truth. It boarders being a parody actually.

[@sia1036]

💯 never seen more truth in a comment, man 💚🌱

[@normanbayona4636]

I became Vegan the day I watched the Game changers, precisely because I was made aware of the lies the meat and dairy industry have fed us for decades - I gain no health benefit from consuming meat. Then I started to understand better the ecological impact of animal farming. And more recently, in part thanks to your debates, the moral imperative we have. Hearing this guy rapid fire lies through his teeth was frustrating, and I'm glad you've had practice debating people who spout nonsense.

[@rainedyani8505]

Thank you for caring, Norman. ❤️🙏✌️

[@sheli4239]

@Il Cavalluccio Marino B12 is a bacteria that is naturally found in soil, but with commercial farming and the heavy, routine use of pesticides and others of the sort, any and all b12 in the soil is killed. Cows and other grass-feeding animals that are bred to be killed can get b12 from grazing since it is found in the soil they are ingesting. (But as mentioned above, heavy pesticides kill the b12 in soil.) In farming, the majority of animals are fed soy or corn food pellets in dark, crowded, enclosed spaces with cement floors and no grass to be found. We used to get it the same way as we walked around barefoot picking up fruits and veggies from the ground, absorbing it through our skin and not washing what we ate so we could get it that way as well. The B-12 myth has been busted . Stop thinking that animals products are the only source.

[@isabellezablocki7447]

@Il Cavalluccio Marino I think everyone knows by now that you need to supplement with B12 when you are vegan. Yet not many people know you need to supplement with B12 whatever your diet is after the age of 50.

[@DublinDapper]

The vegan propaganda worked on you so

[@sheli4239]

@@DublinDapper If it's propaganda that has erred on the side of kindness and compassion.......I'll take that all day every day, but that's not how it works now,....is it?

[@betadecay6503]

Him admitting that it is horrific needs to be clipped and used on repeat with graphics showing his credentials over footage from UK farms and slaughterhouses.

[@AnimalAgricultureExposed]

top idea

[@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82]

and sadly, no one will care LOL

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@@6foot8jesuspilledpureblood82 Ed made videos with animal abuse clips. You can made those videos too. Stop being so negative and fatalistic. Your name has Jesus in it, but Jesus was a positive person.

[@Wearephuct-O]

It must be really frustrating having to cram a broad, extremely important topic into an very limited time frame. You did an excellent job.

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

Agree

[@bvegannow1936]

That farmer should probably be criminally charged with fraud, deceptive marketing practices, and false advertising. Lying to trick someone into buying your product is often illegal.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Especially if they charge higher prices for the supposed "grass fed, free range, or no additives like hormones", etc. Even if someone is a meat eater, why would they want to be lied to, scammed, and be ok with animal abuse?

[@oliverpanabe9183]

Thanks Ed for debunking clown after clown in our fight against animal exploitation.❤

[@FakYuhGoogel]

I really hate these 10 minute tv shows that discuss big topics in way too short of a time. Especially when you barely have time to debunk all the lies defending the status quo. I want a 2 hour conversation on tv including Ed, that farmers union goofball president, then add a couple of experts that can confirm or deny various claims.

[@gallectee6032]

This won't happen on TV because of ratings. They need to move things along so people don't switch channels.

[@HiddenStr3ngth]

That's the problem, one can shoot out 100 lies in 2 minutes but it's harder and it takes a lot more time to dispel them. Dishonest, callous and delusional people have the advantage in that arena. Though it also occurs in longer debates.

[@jessicaj8564]

@Ryan Robinett you’re a vegetarian? You do know the dairy industry is arguably far more cruel than the meat industry?

[@heyo5493]

@Ryan Robinett respect

[@jibjubby]

​@Ryan Robinett Fair play man, It's awesome you're feeding your dog without having to put other animals through hell. Hopefully I can do something like this in the future. Of course you will get people calling you out when you say you're a vegetarian and not a Vegan though. You sound pretty Vegan to me. Vegan is a moral stance which you seem to be adhering to excellently. Obviously you can call yourself what you want, but if you imply that you're not a Vegan you're always gonna have people coming after you lol.

[@NeneChan203]

Why do they never want to show what goes on INSIDE the walls of their humane and dreamy slaughterhouses and farms???? Why don't they have walls of glass so that everyone can see???? Why is filming inside not allowed???? I think we all know the reason. Ed, your elegance and knowledge is out of this world, you're changing the world. Thank you for everything you do.

[@GG-vq6ro]

Also why do so many slaughterhouse workers suffer from PTSD? Doesn't sound like a very humane environment at all.

[@navadel1]

I was having a debate with someone online once. It went on and on - he had a response for everything. He then finally claimed the farm he worked on wasn't like that. I said to post a photo if that was the case. His response was that he wouldn't, but only because he didn't want his farm identified. I pointed out that would be impossible - just send a photo of the animals, if they had such a great existence. Never heard another word from him. This was a person who'd debated (illogically) until he was blue in the face, but when given the opportunity to 'prove' how great the standards were on his farm, went awol.

[@NeneChan203]

@@navadel1 very typical haha. I have received many comments like that; furious, angry people just writing essays about how most of the cattle grows in these idilliac pastures, how they are painlessly killed with one shotgun bullet in their brain so that they feel nothing, and how the ag industry is actually saving the environment and how all the crops are grown for vegans and veganism is destroying the eco system. Absolute bonkers.

[@NeneChan203]

@@GG-vq6ro yeah, and lots of them develop very aggressive and sadistic behaviors. There's just so many horrible problems with the animal industry, I can't believe I used to consume their products. So glad I went vegan, best choice of my life.

[@jakepilcher8500]

I wish something like this had been said to me before I was vegan whenever I went to the "not all slaughterhouses" argument. Okay then, no worries, all of the footage available from slaughterhouses is conveniently from the bad ones. Link me to the footage of the nice ones. Link me to the footage of the humane ones. What are the odds that investigators are getting so "lucky" to capture horrific and upsetting footage. Or if they're not releasing everything they capture then surely the industry should set the record straight by doing it themselves.

[@zoeemmerson6183]

Makes me mad when the assumption is that a vegan diet has to be 100% balanced all the time. Do we really believe that every omnivore is eating a perfectly balanced diet and never needs any advice?? If so why are there campaigns like 5-a-day and an nhs website telling folk how to cut down on sugar?!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@NoInjusticeLastsForever]

Veganism isn't a silver bullet. But if there was ever such a thing to reduce suffering and help humans and animal well-being, going vegan is the closest to a silver bullet as we'll ever get. ❤️

[@athleticvegan9791]

agreed

[@DominionMovementDotOrg]

true. i think the base of many world problems is from the continuing mistake of herding culture which actually is capitalism itself from its inception. if this mentality of destruction, greed, and oppression could be eradicated, it would help win freedom and safety for many living beings trapped within those systems’ apparatuses, which is basically all of us, some more than others. the many ills it creates in the world could have a chance to clear up and balance could be restored

[@strider_hiryu850]

i mean, it kindof is. everything else is bonus

[@slideman1249]

It doesn’t help humans sure it helps animals but we need meat

[@magomagic8787]

@@slideman1249 why do we need it?

[@TempehLiberation]

"We do everything possible for the animals welfare" - well, except for the fact that you kill them. That's probably not in their welfare Martin....

[@dreadpirateroberts1358]

That actually does serve a role in their welfare.

[@dragoned7685]

@@dreadpirateroberts1358 How?

[@Christoph-Dietz]

A Freudian slip, he meant 'farewell'

[@lightoftruth8672]

Look up how many animals and lifeforms are killed to produce 5 kgs of wheat. Where do you draw the line on when or what is OK to kill and not kill. One cow living a wonderful life on a pasture can provide food for many souls. The death surrounding large scale agricultural crops is staggering, but no one cares about that.

[@dragoned7685]

@@lightoftruth8672 You forget that farmed animals need to eat too as they grow large enough to be slaughtered. It takes many kilograms of plant matter to produce 1 kilogram of flesh. Eating animals kills more animals through plant agriculture than eating plants does.

[@leah425]

I watched the documentary Dominion over three years ago now. We all knew that meat came from animals who were killed, but actually witnessing it and learning how so many aspects of the industry are not public knowledge and actually very hidden away, was pretty mind blowing. And until recently, one would have to dig pretty deep to find out this much out in such graphic detail. The activists risking their freedoms for potential jail time/heavy fines, to get all the footage from the last few years is admirable. I do street outreach with clips from this very documentary and I see the power it has on people, the emotion is real out there, people just need to see the truth to make a more informed decision about their lifestyle choices. When the end credits rolled, I went vegan on the spot and never looked back. The best decision I have made that aligns perfectly with my animal loving values.

[@gcoffee3231]

❤

[@iananderson5561]

You're the bossman Ed. You're one of the best and most elegant debaters in the world. You're extremely knowledgeable and armed with facts/evidence. Not only that, you're amazing at sharing that knowledge and educating others. Keep up the amazing work buddy, and keep speaking up for animals!

[@charliem9188]

Humans are animals too don't forget. And a lot of animal brains on here unfortunately do not understand how they are duped by this crazy NWO push toward veganism. I used to be a hardcore "vegetarian" myself. It's almost impossible to avoid meat, and for a good reason. If you have to take artificial supplements for B12 and D3 for example that should tell you right there you are not eating your natural diet. The animals do not need to suffer needlessly, and nobody is saying that. If you were being chased by a theoretical raptor who just wanted to eat you to survive, that might change your perspective a bit as to the harsh nature of reality that as a being of gross physical matter you are always having to consume something else to survive. Do you think plants like to be eaten too? No they don't, that's why they lace themselves with tannins and other toxins so the animals don't destroy them. You are buying right into NWO agenda with all the talk of climate control and the poor animals. What about the humans animals, think of those too.

[@leaderence3290]

NEVER STAY SILENT. As an advocate for animals, I keep putting the images of what's happening to animals on social media every day. I make informational signs and take them to busy intersections at rush hour. I use TikTok not just to post videos exposing what's happening to animals but I use the LIVE feature just about ever day to spread awareness. The more consumers are confronted with reality, the more chance they go vegan or at least start heading in this direction. I again and again and again inform people of the health benefits and the environmental benefits of going vegan too.

[@pianoman159]

That's awesome! I think we(vegans) should all do this. Some people call it being pushy but if they were in the animal's place, they wouldn't complain.

[@jibjubby]

Keep it up! ❤ I'm trying to do more like this. Right now, people see ridiculous meat industry propaganda more often than reality, and that's why they believe it. The industry has so much money, so we need to work hard!

[@FixdalOK]

Bloodlust tho...

[@pianoman159]

@@FixdalOK 😅engineering is tough, am I rite?

[@FixdalOK]

@@pianoman159 Yeah I'm an engineering student and I'm really trying to maintain a high level of bloodlust.

[@that1monk]

i love you so much, brother. keep up the excellent work to cultivate compassion.

[@WhyArentYouVegan]

Thank you for speaking up for animals.

[@Ibanezyt]

Plants don't want to be eaten. They can't run away and have antinutrients as a defense mechanism. They are conscious and capable of cognitive process.

[@alx4animalss]

lets all speak up together!!! animal liberation!!!

[@SydneyLarrikin-ci2vz]

Abusive parents tell their children they're lucky to have food and shelter. That's the bare minimum they should be getting.

[@dawnshimmerglow2259]

Ed, once again... your patience and endurance is superhuman. Cramming so much in such a small window was already amazing of you to do.. bless. Truly, bless.

[@pamwalmsley1865]

Does this guy actually believe what he is saying,? The points he is making are absolutely ridiculous...keep up the good work Ed!

[@GG139-t1v]

he's only interested in the money he gets from it

[@lucasbleyle5015]

I've heard a lot of the same arguments out of phd animal scientists at Purdue University. It's really scary how antiscience they get as top scientists

[@corgimeatlover9970]

I don't think he does at heart. There are marketing people on staff that advised him to make those talking points on television based on how it will influence consumers.

[@evecowley5713]

He is straight up lying about the practices but people like that genuinely do believe that what they are doing is right. I am a vet student so have to work with a lot of farmers and they do genuinely think they give the animals a good life and that we simply need meat. One farmer even told me they are doing the animals a favour because by slaughtering them when they are young, they prevent them having to deteriorate and suffer when they get ill from old age. This is of course complete rubbish because they literally kill the animals before puberty age when they would still have many happy years before them. What I'm trying to say is, these people in the industry have been brought up with that mindset and are very unlikely to change. We have to target the public and aim to reduce consumer demand for meat and animal products I think. Very sad being forced to work in that environment as a vet student but one day I hope to be a sanctuary vet and use my skills for the good of animals💖💖

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

It's surprising how much someone can lie to oneself if the truth would result in the realization that you are doing something that is wrong. Everyone wants to believe they are a good, moral person. I can imagine someone raised to be a farmer and doing it for years having a huge mental resistance to the idea that what he is doing could be wrong. Otherwise, the realization would be quite devastating. I think that is one of the main barriers of entry for veganism. People just don't want to think that they and the people they love and admire may be doing something cruel and unnecesary and have been happily doing so for years. I don't think people should beat themselves over it, just understand it and move on, preferably going on the road of becoming vegan or at least reduce consumption if they can't cut it fully. But it's just a very human reaction that we can expect to happen often.

[@GrepiBrunette]

I'm usually not the type of person who comments but Ed you make me do it again. You are such an important part of the vegan community and movement. Your debates are always so knowledgable, respectful and clear. Your patience is on another level. You are a gift for this world. Just wanted to let you know, you and your work is so much appreciated, keep it going! You're a very charismatic speaker and using this power for the animals and for the environment... So sooo good to see. Love your content, work and efforts. Thank you for all that you do!

[@janlaag]

If that tv wasn't destined for failure they would broadcast both the interview and this one video together so that the whole information can be delivered and the world can start doing something decent to get out of the shit.

[@piaogilvie8463]

Thank you Ed. As always you're so very well spoken and precise 💚

[@northerncoloradotransparen1454]

When I used to eat meat I was lacking in several minerals and vitamins causing restless legs. They wanted to cauterize my veins to fix a 20 year problem. When I changed to a whole foods plant based diet lifestyle I said goodbye to the pills and restless legs and 6 years later still going.... All the doctors, time, and money wasted when all I needed was proper nutrition?

[@jackiec.232]

Congratulations, Ed! I've been hoping you would respond to those outrageous comments by Martin in that debate. I was shaking my head through everything he said. He's insulting our intelligence. How can he make those obviously untruthful statements and get away with it? Boggles the mind! And now I suppose people will be unknowingly repeating what he says, because it's what they wanted to hear. Thanks for the damage control and everything you do.

[@mrwallygator501]

The information and the science is out. Now people just have to open their eyes and their hearts and stop this madness once and for all. The meat, dairy and egg industries are struggling to come up with valid excuses for all they do. It's evident in their ever more creative and absurd lies and justifications. Also in the dirty tricks they often have to fall back on when dealing with a prepared vegan debater on live TV. Great job as always Ed.

[@AbolitionAbz]

We should make lying on TV an illegal offence.

[@spiral-m]

certainly at that level which affects lives of billions of people (and animals and ecosystems)

[@alexhazydreams]

Honestly the debate gave me a bit of a headache. Martin didn't take time to adress your points separately, instead going through an insane gish gallup, overloading the audience with a load of incorrect information in hope something sticks. I felt like he was trying to be confusing on purpose and to make you unable to respond to everything in such a short window of time. That plus the lying makes me think he came to this debate with the intent of being a dishonest actor. Great video, keep up with the good work!

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

It's a shame (but not surprising) that you had to do this follow-up video Ed, but great job in dismantling his dishonest nonsense

[@Wearephuct-O]

Agree

[@spiral-m]

Thanks a lot. It is frankly obscene that such people with responsibility are dragging us over the abyss through their lies and deception because of selfish interests. System change!!

[@135lm135]

Such a great video, everything so well put as always! Thank you so much for all you do, Ed!

[@felixlerouxmusic1159]

As always, you are awesome Ed, you just mastered the art of fluent speaking and flawless reasonning. Keep up the good work!

[@PeiPeisMom]

I can't imagine what I would've said--I'm not good at reacting on my feet when I'm feeling emotional about the topic and you did a whole lot better in the moment than I would have. There was just so much garbage in what he said it was overwhelming

[@rondarkman.]

Animals are just food relax

[@mayflower2158]

I'm so glad you had a chance to respond to the things you weren't given the chance to during the televised discussion. Thanks again for all you do Ed ❤️

[@dstarley]

One of my biggest frustrations in life is people in positions of relative power making assertions and statements that are not backed up by science or even contradict it. You must be constantly thinking of how best to respond to these without coming across in the wrong way, such a difficult line to tread.

[@elizabethdean0187]

Ed, your calm ‘informed’ style is reasoned and scholarly. It is inspiring and will be an ‘ace’ in the collective hand of vegans. That takes considerable work. As an academic, I do appreciate this and the essentiality of keeping your facts straight. I am eliciting interest in following suit re the Plant-based Universities campaign and the Open Letter with over 900 signatures of knowledgeable experts and academics that I became aware of just a few weeks ago, through your emails. Thank you for that. This letter was timely as within days I participated in a university retreat of university emeritus professors at my Canadian university. Of course, our collective goal as vegans is to make an impact. Let’s see how long it takes for the ball to be picked up by the climate change cohort. Upward and onward. Professor Emeritus-Elizabeth

[@sharonhall1067]

From a happy, healthy vegan in southern California, USA: Well said, Ed. Keep up the good work.

[@36ELRIC]

Really glad you made this response video I was shouting out for it. I was really frustrated with the TV interview as I have no doubt you were

[@Edaryion]

I like the video quality improvement, the lighting is great & I love the background!

[@mrwallygator501]

It's never been so easy to go vegan. Its cheaper, it's better for the environment, better for your health, and most importantly, you stop the killing and abuse of animals. There is simpy no excuse for animal abuse. "If we could live happy and healthy lives without harming others, why wouldnt't we?"

[@slideman1249]

It’s not cheaper it depends on that but for most part not not better for your health look up earthling Ed physique reddit his so malnourished that’s why he covers up and looks anemic you don’t stop killing or the abuse since vegans are not even 1 percent of the world you guys don’t help lower the supply and demand

[@mrwallygator501]

@@slideman1249 then look up hench herbivore, joey carbstrong, conscious muscle. Also look up all the super high performance athletes that are thriving on a plant based diet. Using one malnourished vegan (And I'm not saying Ed is) is as dumb an argument as it can get, because there are meat eaters that are malnourished as well. So go and do yourself a favor, google some nutrition facts for 5 minutes and un-dumb yourself.

[@jumpander]

Only if one profits from harming others they wouldn't agree.

[@slideman1249]

@@mrwallygator501 those dudes are obviously using peds and Ed is unmalnourised and it’s just not one most vegans do end up malnourished obviously everyone can get manly outside but meat eaters are less likely also you ignored my point about supply and demand infact if you cared you would eat it so it’s not in vain

[@mrwallygator501]

@@slideman1249 That no demand thing is also such a silly thing to say. Growing up vegetarian and frequently consuming plant based products, I have seen first hand the astonomical increase in vegan friendly products and the much much much improved quality of said products. Even in Mexico, a country full of carnists, Vegan products are popping up every day. Just stop with the nonsense and go vegan mate.

[@datamonster3212]

Thank you Ed 🙏🏽

[@allisonreece02]

Brilliantly simple points you spoke on, as usual. But also, the One Direction clip in your video!!! My worlds are colliding!

[@johannespichler2624]

Great debate! Great video! Thank you for your work, I am a big fan! Greetings from Austria

[@arnaudmorin7413]

The main problem with these TV debates, apart from the ignorance or outright moral corruption of the opponent debaters, is that these journalists are not doing their job. Thank you Ed for your amazing activism work against the greed and baseness of corporate lobbies, as well as the wilful ignorance of the population and the incompetence of a lot of the media!

[@nezudough2423]

I was actually hoping for a video like this after i saw the debate

[@eklein89]

So glad we have Ed to expose these industries for what they are. Vegan 1.5 years (thanks to Ed!) and never going back.

[@PSVGNBBF]

💚

[@slideman1249]

Look up earthling Ed physique reddit you still think it’s healthy your prov bult like that too a lot of vegans are

[@thegratefulsteve]

Congratulations comrade

[@juliewake4585]

He’s the man isn’t he?

[@lw9553]

Give it a bit more time and you'll realise what's going on.

[@lisakristin1810]

It’s so infuriating how the host was so nonchalant about the farmers blatant lie. Ed: This is the method used for killing animals Host: How horrific! Farmer: Yes, that would be horrific but that’s not what happens. Host: Phew! I’m relieved now Ed: You’re lying though. Farmer: I would never lie. I disagree with you demonizing farmers and calling our humane harvesting methods horrific! It’s like the host doesn’t even remember what happened 30 seconds ago.

[@stoicsveganage]

A good host should remain impartial. Their job is to to allow the subject matter to take precedence and leave any biases out of it.

[@fahrenheigh]

@@stoicsveganage Why should a good host allow people to tell blatant lies on TV?

[@JasonShepherd_01]

Yes, methane has a half life of around 10 years in the atmosphere, but it oxidises to become CO2 and therefore continues to contribute to GHG effect after this time.

[@atma3116]

Ed, you’re like a superhero to me. Calm and rational while blowing away misinformation and trying to save both animals and humans from horrible (and avoidable) outcomes.

[@nicolao.dos.santos]

Thank you for dismantling this muppet, the audacity of Martin telling these kind of lies live on camera is baffling

[@juliewake4585]

I was expecting this repost from you Ed: I know you wouldn’t allow him to get away with it. Well done.

[@cloudysensation8406]

Splendid response, and very educational! I was honestly surprised that Martin would lie like that, and then double down on it.. Thank you for not letting that slip by and addressing it right then and there, there will certainly be many who watched that segment and will have put more thought into this.

[@z6t6z6d]

Ed, I love you for all your effort and hard work you do for a better world! Elucidation is so very important. Industry must be stopped misleading people!

[@suzyvegalicious5646]

Your are the best Ed! We need more like you to spread the truth everywhere 🙏

[@BigBen_81]

Spread the truth that vegans are the biggest hypocrits 👍

[@uncledaybkk]

I love your content Ed. Thanks for all that you do. Peace and Love.

[@thomasjohnson308]

Thanks Ed! You continue to do great work and display admirable patience. That dude must have been very frustrating to talk to.

[@MeJustAimy]

I love you Ed, never change, never be quiet and never give up!! We’ll get there at some point. .. 🧚🏽

[@maiqueashworth]

Just because we treat humans badly doesn't mean we can treat animals badly too. It's a vacuous argument

[@Wayfaringwolf]

Beautiful work again Ed.

[@jakhan4203]

Stunning replies...hope they have you back to put all of this across 🤞🤞

[@Anna-co4bd]

Thank you so much for everything you do Ed!

[@macaw6718]

hi, i just want to thank you ed for your honesty, compassion and knowledge on what i believe to be the way forward for the future of the human race. kind regards.

[@albawaterhouse]

I love how you always address health and environmental issues/questions without losing sight of what veganism is truly about. You always go back to the ethics, and I find that so so great.

[@SAIRALEE]

I watched this Ed. Scottish myself here...it was highly EMBARRASSING. Well done for coming across so educated and informed as always x

[@emileocharon6025]

YOUR A FUXKING LEGEND PLEASE DONT CHANGE!!

[@boldbodyfitnessllc7120]

You are so well spoken and I hope that more and more people continue watching your content and thinking rationally about these topics. Thank you, Ed!

[@jonascooper759]

Trying to reason with someone like Martin is impossible he would still say a gas chamber is humane whilst being led to one himself

[@robyngoldman-grunseich2912]

This is a great follow up to the other video! Thank you for staying cool under pressure and the work you do to provide fact based points in support of the elimination of needless animal suffering!

[@DoctorOnkelap]

Can some sort of legal action been taken against Martin or the network for (allowing) public misinformation?

[@kristinasekacova6061]

I love this, so nice to hear some people care, so nice to see the change happening... great job!

[@fredrickpeters1628]

Similarly, the schools' egg hatching programs don't show what happens to the male chick's, not do they teach the rest of the "life cycle." Great comment.

[@melizbeth1]

Agreed & I fully know Ed is a gift to us all on this earth. And... Rene Descartes hugely (and so wrongly) impressed the world with his 'I think therefore I am' . He also believed animals were like clocks, mechanical & dependent & unable to feel. His beliefs & practices are still taught in Universities all over... Being taught that humans are above or entitled or here to dominate (Biblical 'Dominion') is blindly accepted and thank goodness many are waking up to compassion. So I don't think Mr. Martin is 'lying'. He believes the bull just as the majority still do & he's caught in the capitalist trap of commodities & not seeing that animals are so very much like us. He may not even understand that humans are animals. Misinformation is everywhere & if a few 'get it' here, that's brilliant. Thank you Ed for opening eyes, educating so many & exposing the ignorance in our world. We are raised to follow not lead & more are finding the courage to think for themselves, and to 'feel' compassion for all beings. The earth was made for all beings not just humans. Einstein was in such the minority of his time & veganism is growing. Ed is decreasing that minority and one day the majority of humans will be vegan. Step by step. Each of us helping the most vulnerable.

[@Maxry-v2y]

I’m a human secular but everytime I hear atheist declare Descartes as a great genius, I remember reading what you said @mare ,that animals were mere robots,he took his wife’s pet dog and to prove his point,tied her up and dissected her alive,while she screamed,the wife left him after this

[@JaneWeeks]

I hope that you send this video to the producers of the tv program. Perhaps they'll do a follow-up.

[@giialiinh]

His environmental arguements are utterly nonsensical. It's 21st century and yet stating that raising cattles for food is a good thing is still a thing...

[@nurnichtausliebeweinen2240]

I find you amazingly calm and, as always very convincing. I found him to be desperately selling lies to keep a cruel and unnecessary industry alive. Wishing you strength for your important work!

[@dorihungerbuhler7885]

Well done, Ed. it's unfortunate you are not given the time during the debate to explain these very important points.

[@11trickyrick]

They wouldn’t want that

[@ramiolsen]

Fantastic video, Ed, this might've been your best and most concise one to date!

[@ofirsportage]

It is actually quite ironic to watch the background Martin choose to put, in a conversation he's tested for transparency and reliability. I was almost waiting for him to say : "If you look behind me, you can see how everything's perfect and nothing's wrong".

[@EclipseDj]

a literal veil of lies. In the original you can hear a large vehicle beeping, so I wonder how truly idyllic his backdrop was in reality? Hmm?

[@KeiAKWs]

10:47 I was looking forward to him bringing up that point since I saw the original debate. 💯 Such a pitty it didn't land on TV

[@80slimshadys]

Saying we need to kill and eat animals because they have nutrients is like saying we need to rip down peoples houses because they have materials we can use for more houses. You don't get to take others stuff when you can get it somewhere else.

[@jibjubby]

Wow, excellent analogy!

[@HORNOMINATOR]

humans are pretty nutrious. they are already made of what humans need.

[@jibjubby]

@@HORNOMINATOR And they're more gullible too, show them an advert that says being eaten is part of the circle of life and they'll sign right up!

[@HORNOMINATOR]

@@jibjubby i bet most of them are free range and organic

[@rondarkman.]

@Christian Horn Nope I buy caged eggs and veal, animals are here for me

[@DamnTastyVegan]

So sad the lies they spew and that most people just eat up without question. You’re doing an amazing job going against this bs. Keep up the great work

[@timetodiechris2458]

I love eating delicious animals

[@earthpart3]

@@timetodiechris2458 virgin

[@DJLirnl]

Great work as always Ed .👍

[@acoolducksloveryeahweexist]

Loved the video and your part of the debate, Martin is effortlessly ridiculous 🫶🏻

[@JayGreggy4973]

Expertly done, as usual. Thanks again, Ed, for all that you do.

[@ilikeoptter]

Ed, I have an entirely different outlook because of your message. You helped me become a better person. Thank you. Thank you.

[@tylerspain1027]

Keep up the great information! 👍

[@Eluveitieprivat]

Thank you, sir! So well said. I only with they‘d give you the time to say this on TV! 🙈🙄 But good thing… the change, the process is on snd we‘re getting there. Keep on! 🙏🏻💪🏻

[@Melonimi]

Thanks Ed, you are an inspiration. Keep up the good work!

[@didakoko3723]

So glad you've made this video, Ed. It was so frustrating to watch! He was also given so much more time than you, I was quite annoyed to be honest

[@WiseandVegan]

Anyone who is defending the "livestock" industry should be put through what the animals are going through, even just for a few minutes. I am sure the world would turn vegan in a heartbeat.

[@freshairkaboom8171]

If they were only put through it for a few minutes with no lasting damage, after they were done they would simply claim it was just fine and then proceed to going back to eating animals. That's how these carnists' brains work.

[@FruityHachi]

@@freshairkaboom8171 they should go through those mutilation procedures

[@slideman1249]

Most people know it’s cruel but we need food

[@cyansalvatore6011]

@@slideman1249 Food can be obtained in other ways than suffering. And yes, food that provides full range of nutrition human body needs. I'm not talking about people that are heavily allergic or live in poverty and for example rely on animals for milk or eggs to feed themselves or tribes in africa or antarctica, I'm talking about those who CAN go vegan, those are the people that should go vegan.

[@quantumpanic]

Wow interesting idea. I think if we really wanted the meat industry to stay, I'd want governments to issue a "meat eating license" but in order to apply for it, one must first go through whatever the animal they were going to eat go through, even if only a fraction of the experience. I'm sure only psychopaths would want to pass getting that license just to eat meat.

[@veganlife9205]

Thank you so much Ed, I respect you so much!! ♥

[@elizabethmahony7010]

Thank you for your well thought out argument. I don't know how you stay so calm when speaking with people with such an obvious agenda. I just want to smack them! 😒

[@Nissenov]

Because Ed knows, we should not sink to their level :) Not that I do not understand what you mean ;)

[@valeriot1668]

17:00 this one is a really good analogy, ill' steal it!

[@WV25701MW]

“Best slaughter house,” sounds like an oxymoron to me.

[@TheVeganRunner]

Keep fighting the good fight Ed ✊ Half way through your book, challenging material but I can’t put it down.

[@TenTempeh]

Great video. Thanks ed!

[@shiniemi2754]

You did great in the debate, even though the air-time you got was very limited in comparison to Martin's. I so hope that you get the chance to voice all of the things in this video, on national TV sometime soon!

[@Orlagh]

You're a bit sassier in this video Ed and I'm here for it 👏🌱

[@Silvercentipede]

Rightttt??!! He still does it in a way which isn't vicious or cruel and it's just perfect 👌👌 his emotional intelligence and charisma is everything 👌

[@reesecarr2105]

I wish they would have given you more time where you could have addressed these issues to him, I would of loved to hear his response, like always ED , GREAT JOB!! thank you for defending these helpless animals!!! KEEP EXPOSING THE TRUTH!♥♥♥♥

[@dountoothers]

Thanks!