Ben Shapiro’s views on veganism are an absolute mess.

[@ed.winters]

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[@LouisGedo]

*Create a Better 🌎 and a Better You by...........Living Vegan* 💜

[@MCRMarauder]

What’s a man to do to get an email reply from yourself or your team? 🙏

[@CindyBarg]

Ben Shapiro is Bibi Netanyahu's propaganda outlet.

[@TrideepNagg]

Hey Ed I am not sure if you had mentioned or discussed? What is your opinion on Alex O Connor not being a vegan anymore?

[@VeganV5912]

Vegans are neutral, ✅♥️💪😬🦍🦧🐵🐒👱🏼‍♂️👩🏽🤙

[@hippieagathachristie]

I attended an extremely conservative christian college and was the only Peter Singer fan. I wrote an essay on veganism and the grading bias was so blatant I lost a lot of respect for that professor. If you want to be intellectually honest, be vegan!!

[@Siegfried5846]

I wish I had a girlfriend like you.

[@LennarthAnaya]

My respect for you.

[@missanthropy6174]

It’s honestly not much better in more progressive academic spaces. I went vegan as a teen and had a rather unique childhood that allowed me to experience schooling on both sides of the aisle. I lived in a very conservative area of AZ until age 16, then went to a private performing art school in MA for a year followed by a year at a public high school in MA. Personally, I’ve always been a very passionate progressive and like most of my political beliefs, my veganism was at best dismissed but more often outright ridiculed by my teachers and peers in AZ schools. My attempt to get a vegan lunch option at my high school was ignored and when I tried to start multiple social clubs, one dedicated to environmentalism and the other to vegan activism, I couldn’t even find a teacher to sponsor them. I was also a very good student, so when I tried to include animal rights in an essay or research project, I noticed right away the tendency for my grades to suffer. At both the private and public schools I attended in MA, a significantly more politically progressive community, I found that all of my political opinions were more acceptable except for my veganism. Naively, I thought that since the dress code was more relaxed and there were rainbow flags in many of the classrooms that I could have productive conversations about animal rights with my teachers and classmates. I was wrong. I brought up animal rights during a Socratic session in US history and my teacher immediately shut me down. Later, I wrote a meticulously researched final paper analyzing the parallels between the industrialized killing of humans and the bigotry that enabled it during the Armenian g€nocide and later WWII, and the industrial slaughter of non humans and the speciesism that enables it. The paper was for a class titled “H0locausts and G€nocides” and the prompt for the paper was to analyze a contemporary injustice that is relevant to the h0locaust. There could not have been a more appropriate scenario to include animal rights. But my grade in that class went from a 98% to a 66%, my teacher marked the assignment as not submitted, and had a private conversation with my about how disgusting and disrespectful my paper was. I tried to argue the validity of my position, but I had to go over the teacher to the Vice principal to force him to even accept the paper. And it wasn’t until after I showed them the dozen h0locaust survivors whom I cited and quoted in my paper (yeah the teacher hadn’t even read the whole thing or checked my sources before he decided to give me a zero). And even then, I could tell the vice principal supported me begrudgingly and even after accepting my paper, the teacher still gave me a D. I still think that politically progressive minds are far more likely to accept veganism than conservatives. But in the year 2024, veganism seems to be one of the few issues that both the left and right come together to be against.

[@suzannealdridge1404]

​@@missanthropy6174Thankyou for sharing this 👋💚👍

[@mroqido9987]

Cheers to you! Indeed, be vegan! (unlike Mr. Singer lol)

[@Master_Roach]

Im new to veganism and its the best decision ive ever made in my life

[@The1Ab0veAll]

Great!

[@SurTrailDoesAll]

I’m new too. I’m coming up on my first year❤

[@carlschjelderup5532]

Good for you!

[@Master_Roach]

@@SurTrailDoesAll I think youtube is broken. Shouldn't everyone be arguing in here?

[@SurTrailDoesAll]

@@Master_Roachhaha that was the old ways. This is the new system. 😅 we listen and try to come to an agreement. This is what humans call progress.😂

[@RamseyRimkeit]

It was recognizing my hypocrisy as a vegetarian that helped me go vegan. But only after 12 years. And now it's been 12 years since I went vegan.

[@CookiiMx]

Same for me. Grew up as a vegetarian, never had meat, but still had dairy and eggs every now and then, but it's wasn't until 6-7 years ago (28 atm) someone finally pointed out my hypocrisy, and I finally saw it and acted upon it.

[@rondarkman.]

@RamseyRimkeit I'll stick with all the delicious products animals offer us

[@isabellezablocki7447]

@@rondarkman. They don't offer.

[@rondarkman.]

@@isabellezablocki7447 Oh well ,they are farmed for a reason

[@isabellezablocki7447]

@@rondarkman. they still don’t offer

[@SpellracecarBackwards]

I would love to see a discussion between Ben and Ed.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

Oh god you must have no regard for Ed's sanity.

[@hippieagathachristie]

Same! Think of all the good that would do for the cause! It just sucks that so many Ben fans are redneck ranchers or brainwashed homesteaders.

[@CDLightt]

They would probably just mostly agree with each other

[@bluemeister22]

@@SpellracecarBackwards Ben can you point out that most vegans are hypocrites because they are pro choice, while they are also against the killing of an innocent sentient being...

[@mayyas8924]

If the “I’m a hypocrite” is a valid move in Ben’s view then the discussion is over.

[@StarWonder]

💚🌱💚Vegan for Them💚🌱💚 16 years Vegan this month!🎉

[@andreabono3437]

Thanks for the animals…. Old vegan here …vegan since I was 19….now 60

[@aininja8169]

Proud of you​@@andreabono3437

[@svenfautley3084]

Congrats! ... same here, @StarWonder ... but beat you to it - September already ;)

[@ChrisGaultHealthyLiving]

Glad I went vegan 5 years ago! Keep fighting the good fight, Ed!

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

Hell yea! Feb. 2018 for me.

[@ChrisGaultHealthyLiving]

@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer Awesome! Congrats!

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

You as well. Thanks for seeing the light. The non-human homies appreciate it. We have similar backgrounds too, nice sunset. Haha​ @@ChrisGaultHealthyLiving

[@organicjoe6568]

I went vegan last year in February and now I feel like I've been vegan my whole life lol. I can never go back to hurting others for something as stupid as taste/texture.

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

​@@organicjoe6568🌱💪🏽🖖🏽✌🏽

[@burkuschgoldberg]

I'd pay a lot to see Ben watching this video

[@teresajose2280]

Yeah me too. He does a lot of reaction videos so maybe he’ll catch wind of this one and chime in.

[@stillben]

i am watching

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

And then what? He'll come up with extremely dumb dodges/fallacies and act high and mighty, like always and his audience will buy it.

[@burkuschgoldberg]

@@Luftgitarrenprofi I mean as a fly on the wall without him having prepared anything. But yeah, as a bit on his show it would very much play out as you describe.

[@estinhewart]

@@burkuschgoldberg Start sending it to him everywhere you can. Eventually he'll have to address it

[@alenarohava3009]

I was in that hypocritical state for 6 years. 6 years ago I decided to go vegan cold turkey, but quite soon after that I started eating some animal products again and became vegetarian, which I stayed for those 6 years. All this time I knew it was extremely hypocritical of me and I that I was still supporting animals suffering, even though I didn't eat meat. Well, now finally 3 months ago I went completely vegan and I'm extremely happy that now my diet and my lifestyle are aligned with my values.

[@doggodoggo3000]

i relate to this

[@DiamondCake2]

I don’t think it counts as vegan if you’re eating cold turkey wtf?

[@adriana_cern]

@@DiamondCake2I don’t know if I should laugh (because your comment is funny if it’s purposefully dumb) or if English is not your first language and you don’t know what cold turkey means? 👀

[@DiamondCake2]

@@adriana_cern Just being silly :)

[@AaronTaylor12]

I was more of a hypocrite as a vegan (5 years) than I am as a herbivore.

[@leviahimsa]

Animal abuse promotion is continuing to look more and more barbaric as every moment passes.

[@rugbystories3344]

Animals are food bruv 😂😂

[@rondarkman.]

Me it's delicious food ...cope

[@leviahimsa]

@@rugbystories3344 You and I are animals, are we food? Do you think animal abuse is wrong?

[@leviahimsa]

@@rondarkman. Do you think taste justifies killing someone? Can we make great tasting meals without killing someone?

[@MustardSkaven]

@@leviahimsa "You and I are animals, are we food? " Do you never get outside of the house? When people say "animals" they mean "non-human animals". That's how people use that word unless they are having a scientific discussion. Even vegans when they say "be vegan for the animals" they aren't talking about humans, buddy. " Do you think taste justifies killing someone? " Of course it doesn't. But "someone" is a human being by definition.

[@StarWonder]

I wish someone told him pregnant cows are slaughtered with the baby inside, & baby is left to die & can be seen after a certain age dying in the cow, pushing on the sides, desperate to live & wasn't born yet. Many cow, especially dairy cows, are slaughtered pregnant & near birth.

[@angelafuller8746]

This needs more attention from the "pro life" people

[@jenniferbaez1725]

😔 One thing he is right about is the fact that one day we will look back at this time and see our own species as barbaric towards animals.

[@dogwklr]

​@angelafuller8746 does it? Humans and cows are on the same level to you? Vegans support abortion right up to and after birth even so wtf are you talking about? Cows are not slaughtered befire they valve unless they are very sick. Why would the farmer do that? None of you know anything about farming

[@dogwklr]

Star wonder, do you support abortion? Those babies are torn apart piece by piece, such a thing never occurs in cattle. Also, cows are not killed like this unless an extreme circumstance like they are being removed due to disease. That is not in farmers control, they are legally bound to do it

[@jenniferbaez1725]

@@dogwklrI know your question is directed at Star, but I happen to be a pro-life vegan. It just makes sense to choose life and not disrupt what is natural. Just to give you some stats: “The number of pregnant cows slaughtered has increased dramatically. In Brazil alone, 43 million cows are slaughtered every year and approximately 650,000 of them die carrying unborn babies.” More money for more weight. This is being done intentionally.

[@SKO_EN]

I had admitted I was a hypocrite 2 years before I went vegetarian and 2.5 years before I went vegan. I don't have an excuse for having acted that way, I was lazy and comfortable with eating food I was used to eating. But hey, there's hope Ben acts on his hypocrisy. Hopefully your video reaches him. Thanks for doing this.

[@AaronTaylor12]

I went vegan for 5 years for the same reason but then I realized veganism is a 1st world city life problem. Eating meat is natural. Veganism only works in a non natural environment.

[@rugbystories3344]

Animals are food to us from God my guy unless you can profe otherwise keep your opinions to yourself 😊

[@JordanDecay]

​@rugbystories3344 animals are not food from god my guy. How about proving god exists? Otherwise, keep your opinions to yourself 😊

[@SKO_EN]

@@rugbystories3344 Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You need to prove it first, not the other way around. And even if your claim was true, I don't think God's morality standards would be as virtuous as you think.

[@rugbystories3344]

@@SKO_EN The proof is very simple no archaological discovery has ever been able to disprove the truth of the bible and it's reliability as a historical document, the evidence of Jesus Christ and the overwhelming evidence of his ressurection is enough to convince me my guy and what do you think gives you the right to tell me about morals when you can't point it being from anywhere other than your self thus making them just your personal opinions, if you don't believe in a God/higher power then you have no business talking about morals because according to your life view right and wrong simply boils down to personal opinions making it subjective there are no absolute rights and wrongs like in my belief system so there is no way you try and convince me that something is absolutely wrong e.g eating meat according to who

[@PopKMedia]

Say what you want about human abortions, the active torture of animals is insane. Comparing these two things shouldn't be related, especially when Ben isn't getting 3 abortions a day.

[@bobhill4364]

This makes sense to you? Really? People losing their minds over the life of a chicken while celebrating mass abortion on demand?

[@SpellracecarBackwards]

@@bobhill4364 "over the life of a chicken", it's not one life of a chicken, it's 2 trillion animal that we kill each year. In one year we kill more animals than humans have EVER existed on earth. And what does abortion have to do with veganism? You can be vegan and be pro life or pro abortion.

[@PopKMedia]

@@bobhill4364 None of the major religious texts are anti-abortion in any sort of way that the modern alt-right is. Also mass abortions is fox new fearmongering. See Dan McClellan's video "does the bible say abortion is murder" for an academic argument on the topic.

[@bobhill4364]

@@PopKMedia Are you a Christian? Is it your view that God would approve of abortion on demand? How is abortion consistent with sex only permissible in marriage and us being told to be fruitful and multiply? 9 out of 10 abortions are committed by the unmarried.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Your comment didn't make sense. You don't have to experience something to criticize evil or research and know facts about it. I was speaking in general. For example, do you have to be ethnic to criticize racism towards ethnic people or to be able to recognize racism towards ethnic people is wrong? No. Vegans are defending animals but vegans don't experience being a animal. And many vegans haven't experienced what's it's like being in a concentration camp or being a slave like livestock do. We can convince pro-lifers to veganism by telling them they should accept the science of animal sentience and suffering if they want that for fetuses. The bible is against abortion. The bible talked about the sentience of fetuses. Such as the fetus in Mary's cousin. The Mary who was the mother of Jesus.

[@HannahThomas01]

Ben sounds like a manipulator to me. He knew he would be seen as a hypocrite, so he defused the question by quickly identifying as the worst possible option. That way, the questioner has nothing worse to throw at him, and is essentially silenced. Ben has said, by both his words and actions, that he will never be vegan. The truth is, he just cares that much more about himself and his own pleasure than about that of others. This makes it clear to me that he is a man of “Do as I say, not as I do” which makes him completely untrustworthy and not worthy of listening to. He has a talent for shutting people down by speaking really fast. But fast doesn’t mean right, and this is not the first time I have seen him shut someone down who actually had a good point, but just couldn’t get a word in edgewise.

[@DFMoray]

I’m vegan so I’m not defending ben Shapiro, but I think he meant that humans won’t be able to honestly look back and see the way we are treating animals as barbaric until we have a lab grown meat alternative that is accepted by the “I’ll never stop eating meat!” types. But that’s like saying we wouldn’t be able to see slavery as barbaric until we have robots or something. I get what he’s saying but it’s not a perfect analogy or whatever you wanna call it. I have a feeling the “I’ll eat extra meat to make up for you being a vegan” types will probably be extremely hard headed in the event of widespread availability of lab grown meat. But as they die out and “real” meat gets more expensive, the future generations will just naturally accept it as the norm.

[@I_Stand_With_Canada]

Ah, yes, the "meat tastes good "argument. No, it doesn't. Meat is just the platform for the flavor profile you're looking for. Think about this: you slaughter a cow and chop it up. From that same cow, you can make Mexican food, French cuisine, German food, Portuguese food, American food, Asian cuisine, British food, Italian dishes, etc. All those different styles of food from the same animal. It's not the meat that tastes good; it's the spices, sauces, and cooking methods that give it its flavor. If you've ever been to a barbecue cooking contest, the most important thing is the barbecue sauce.

[@VeganFlatEarth]

Carnivores literally like the taste of blood and the thrill/rush it gives them.

[@alekhinesgun9997]

if you simply cook meat (without anything added to it) it still tastes fine, if not good, the same as any other plant would without special seasonings. The same thing can be done with different plants but the underlying premise is that the plant/fruit etc itself still tastes good. I understand the argument for veganism but the argument saying meat doesn't taste good makes no sense.

[@rondarkman.]

salmon? prawns? Oysters, all delicious without anything

[@gatosospechosop3]

I absolutely love a rare steak with just a little salt tbh

[@rondarkman.]

@@gatosospechosop3 Absolutely

[@Nikita_Naumov]

I quite love his staple phrase "facts don't care about your feelings". Can't wait for him to apply this on himself too! Great video as always, Ed!

[@philipnorthfield]

Does it ever strike you as odd that someone made famous for that sentence seems to make way more emotionally based judgement than they would seem likely to get away with.

[@Nikita_Naumov]

@@philipnorthfield absolutely!

[@ReluctantWarrior]

He never believed those words to begin with.

[@mara3842]

Ben's logic: - killing a fetus who doesn't have a life and may even never have a life, e.g. be a stillborn, die an infant, etc - OMG NO WAY!!!! - killing animals who already have a life - yes no problem!!

[@umahasan3953]

skewed beliefs are in essence hypocritical how can you value innocent life and stand for the atrocities committed by Zionism

[@Pee-Pad]

Ben believes a human fetus is alive and deserving of life. He is a pro-human speciest. Your comment is a strawman.

[@zenobikraweznick]

Exactly , many people just say "I'm a hypocrite" and get along , as if it was an "out of jail" card.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

I eat a WF omni. diet with an entirely clear conscience: Physiology before ideology! No intention of voluntarily entering the V jail. .. & I'm a Christian, so God's got my back!

[@bhavikasicka3098]

@@Unmasking_Viandalisme Making up a violent god does not magically justify violent actions. :) A true God would not condone animal slavery.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@bhavikasicka3098 I didn't make Him up. The HB is internally consistent, to those who choose eternal life, through faith in Christ Jesus. I'm not answerable to my peers, neither am I responsible for their choices. Those who are happy to be mere blips, in both time & space, are free to take that route.

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

​@@Unmasking_ViandalismeSorry, but you did make "him" up.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@Luftgitarrenprofi We'll see! The collection of texts which He directed are proving to be prophetically accurate, so hold on to your hummus, as we ain't gonna reach a Garden of Vegan. Peas!🙏

[@luke7842]

There are many people who are vegan now who spent a few years kind of thinking about it and going more in that direction. Not everyone flips a switch and immediately goes vegan. So we shouldnt put people down who start to seem a bit more open to the idea but are not quite ready to change.

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

Ben Shapiro isn't one of those.

[@angelafuller8746]

I agree, but Ed never puts anyone down

[@AB-ft7ng]

The keywords in your comment are "not everyone". No, not everyone, but some and perhaps even many. Shame is a wonderful motivator. It's what keeps the majority of society on good behavior, after all, short of the law. Don't knock an effective tactic just because it doesn't work for *some* people. There's is no method that will work 100% of the time- none. If we tossed every idea that wasn't a magic fix-all, the vegan community would consist of all of 10 people.

[@lorah3005]

👍 Whole food plant based for the environment and health; vegan for the victims! *Ask your city government to sign the Plant Based Treaty!* 🖖

[@shaunaburton7136]

I’ve never heard of that. I live in a college town and maybe our town would like it.

[@Empathy4Animals411]

Government don't change anything until the majority of the population supports it. This is a waste of time. It's all about the grassroots, not bureaucrats with agendas.

[@lorah3005]

@@Empathy4Animals411 PBT is a _grassroots_ initiative creating bottom-up pressure for the negotiation of a global Plant Based Treaty as a companion to the UNFCCC Paris Agreement.

[@rugbystories3344]

​@@lorah3005 look my guy eat egg plants all you want just don't try to force me into it 😂

[@angelafuller8746]

Vegans eat tasty food​@@rugbystories3344

[@RichardKotze]

Sam Harris also says he should be vegan but is not. Very strange mentality for someone that is supposed to be an expert in morality.

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

@@RichardKotze He also said that he fears he wouldn't get enough protein, revealing his ignorance on nutrition and diet.

[@UrielCopy]

Sam Harris tried and it didn't work out for him. Everybody knows, instinctively, that if you go vegan you are guaranteed to worsen your health. Meat is are natural food, and whatever you vegans say and do, you will still crave that piece of steak, you will ad-infinitum try to replicate meat with your disgusting soy-alternatives and sooner or later, most of you, will go back to eating meat or animal products again.

[@danielmcdermott3558]

@RichardKotze True, I don’t take Sam to be a philosopher or an expert on ethics. Ethics or morality is a subdivision of philosophy. Sam is a neuroscientist I think.

[@RebeccaMatcham]

I work in a nursery environment and am expected to serve meat and animal products. It feels frustrating as there doesn't seem to be a shift in attitude at all about these things, and it often feels very hypocritical to have a growing specificity for care and promoting kindness and yet the conversations that may have the ability to change hearts and minds are deemed unprofessional. Anybody have any advice on how I can remain patient here? I feel like I'm contributing to the conditioning of these young children, but have no right to break the trance,with the expectation to keep my opinions to myself, even very mild ones. There is a culture which forgets about the invisible belief system that is being promoted, so much so that it's not viewed as a perspective at all. There is one Vegan child, and them being given a different plate shows that it's a deviation from the norm rather than a sign that the norm needs to change (a green plate would frame it positively I think). I guess views are also more pushed down when the other adults aren't even on the path to reconsidering their food choices either.

[@L1ttlef0ot]

I really hope more people talk about this. Thanks for saying this

[@elroybel]

I’m a vegan nanny in the Midwest who has unfortunately only ever worked for nonvegan families, so I can really relate to this! With the families I’ve worked regularly for, I usually express my preference to prepare and serve only vegan foods for the kids, and while a few of the parents are quick to respect and accommodate that preference, others push back in subtle and obvious ways, even responding with concern. It’s a fine line to have to walk, especially when the opportunity to have a more in-depth conversation about what veganism means and why it’s important (to me) rarely presents itself in a professional environment. Whether or not what the kids eat is in our control, there are other ways we can embody our ethics and vegan/animal-respecting perspective while caring for children, such as reading them books about animals, using antispeciesist language that challenges the ubiquitous normalization of speciesism, emphasizing the importance of protecting the planet and other animals we share it with, encouraging kindness, curiosity, compassion, and mindfulness, and simply doing our best to lead by example. It would mean a lot to me to be able to connect with other vegans who work with nonvegan kids & parents, so please feel free to connect with me if you’d like to talk more about this. 💛🌱

[@RebeccaMatcham]

@@elroybel thank you for your response, it is challenging isn't it? It's also the responses from other staff of the belief that the children should be given a choice, forgetting 1)that choice is limited to what the particular place considers to be food 2)and without Vegan diets being presented in a compelling way. I think some of this comes from the not missing out mindset without acknowledging that it's simple to just buy or make a tasty alternative and be inclusive. Being in childcare with particular families must be harder because maybe it feels like your influence should be listened to a bit if it's given the respect it deserves. I understand the leading by example element, it just feels strange for Peppa pig books to be on and sausages being for lunch while wondering if anyone else sees the irony, the same goes for protecting marine life on fish and chip day. I endeavour to be a role model and demonstrate compassion in other ways, you're right that it is a fine line to tread especially as challenging unkindness is done without hesitation for things which are far less barbaric than what is being supported without consideration here. Which country are you a nanny/au pair in?

[@elroybel]

@@RebeccaMatcham Thanks for responding. :) I’m a nanny in the U.S. And yes, (re: reading/watching Peppa Pig then eating sausages 😣)-after I went vegan 8 years ago I started seeing that irony/hypocrisy/cognitive dissonance everywhere! There’s so much conditioning and normalization of animal use in children’s media (shows, books, etc.), along with glorification of dairy products in particular (cheese, ice cream, etc.)…SO much meat and dairy propaganda/indoctrination. And the categorization of nonhuman animals starts at such a young age, with children’s media separating the “farm animals” from the “zoo animals” from the “pets” and “safari animals.” Noticing how ubiquitous this is, I’ve started taking pictures whenever I see it in yet another children’s book and may compile an archive to share in hopes of critically highlighting this facet of learned speciesism. If you’d like to connect elsewhere, you can find me on Instagram… I’ll post my profile name below this comment in case you’d like to stay in touch. Either way it’s so refreshing to hear I’m not alone in this perspective/experience! 🙃

[@RebeccaMatcham]

@@elroybel taking photos sounds like a good plan 👌 yeah, the toy boxes are categorised in this way too. I tend to bring up the alternatives at work though as I'm often not catered for in the puddings department. As the children ask me whether I like ice cream and then I do tell them about wonderful chocolate and icecream made of oat,coconut milk etc. It seems that talking about alternatives is ok, it's just frustrating as taste is the only avenue food is discussed and some dubious nutrition information. Speciesism is everywhere and so hard to unravel as I was raised this way too, but being aware is a step that is needed. All the other isms have in depth diversity trainings and yet this one is not on most people's radars at all. Cool, I'm from the UK, different perspectives are interesting, but similar realisations :)

[@NathanBlackberry]

He needs to quit the hypocrisy and go vegan now💚💚💚🙏

[@Trolloftruth]

Not happening

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

As long as he believes his sky daddy made everything to benefit him, he'll never change.

[@Trolloftruth]

@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer or...he just don't want to

[@RoidRage-yc7yg]

This is why people hate vegans. You can say that you support vegans but you still get attacked by them. It is better to just call out the insanity of vegans every opportunity you get because there is no way to satisfy them.

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

Hell, yeah! Vegan for the victims. 👍👍👍

[@AaronMetallion]

I'm not at all political, but I am culturally conservative / traditional being from India. And being pro-life (as far as my own relationship / the one's I date is concerned), it made total logical sense to be consistent and also see divinity and sanctity in the pregnancies, fetuses, and babies from other species. I was disgusted when I found out many sows (mother pigs) in gestation crates, have a timed occupancy, and sometimes they're evicted and slaughtered while pregnant while replaced by a new batch of sows. Similar feeling when I fond out about Rennet, which is scraped from freshly slaughtered baby cow's 4th stomach, and this enzyme is used to coagulate the mother's milk & turn it into soft cheese. Humans evolved from hominids, primates, and mammals. In nature there is only continuity. There are no hard lines you can draw to divide humans from animals, nor draw a line in any stage of pregnancy to me. That's why I went vegan. There are many conservative vegans in India, the difference is just that this conservatism doesn't come packaged with 'hunting, fishing, guns, ranching, & freedom'.

[@bhavikasicka3098]

I'm Indian too, a Hindu, and I am pro-choice (because, like I respect the bodily/sexual autonomy of cows, I respect the bodily/sexual autonomy of pregnant human persons -- I believe veganism is tied to feminism). However, that being said, I feel like you are pro-life in good faith, by being vegan. If you assume a fetus is sentient and worthy of being protected from 'murder,' then (to be consistent), you should assume the same about cows and chickens and pigs. Any person who defends the life of a human fetus but kills a cow is a speciesist, therefore a bad faith actor.

[@dani7190]

​@@bhavikasicka3098I don't understand that argument. If you are pro life for animals, why are human lives different?

[@bhavikasicka7871]

​@@dani7190 I don't think pro life is the best way to describe me. I am pro BODILY AUTONOMY of all animals. I don't believe "life" (whatever that means) is inherently worth protecting. Rather, I believe that sentient beings should not have their bodies, sexualities, labour, nor consent violated or extracted for profit in any shape or form. I am not vegan because I am pro life. I am vegan because I am pro choice.

[@moondog7694]

I don't think there are many vegans in India, period. I had a lacto-vegetarian roommate from India, and she had never met another vegan before. She kept on asking me if I was allergic when I told her I didn't want to eat dairy. I said "no", but she asked me again if I was allergic on two additional days, for a total of three times! When her brother asked me why I don't eat dairy, he asked me if I am allergic. I said "no". then he asked me if it was because of religion. Again I said "no". Then I guess he couldn't think of any other reasons why somebody wouldn't eat dairy, so he then flatly asked me why I don't eat dairy, so I just said "I read a book" because I didn't want to go into detail in front of his sister's two young children. Then when her parents (the two young children's grandparents) moved in with us, the grandma I guess learned a tiny amount of English phrases and said to me one day, "Canadian vegetarians don't eat dairy". I found it interesting that she felt the need to say the word "Canadian". I guess she thinks Indian vegetarians always eat dairy? Or that only "Canadian" (read: white) vegetarians don't eat dairy, and all other nationalities of vegetarians do eat dairy??

[@Veegan4theanimals]

You need to upload more so you can cover more audience. We need a good vegan activist with over a million subs. Thanks for the video.

[@rugbystories3344]

The problem is guys like me enjoy meat and other animals products And my faith allows it so to think that your opinions of deciding not to eat Chicken is going to prevent me from throwing a few Chicken wings in the frier is nothing but pure comedy to me

[@Veegan4theanimals]

@@rugbystories3344 not everyone has such lack of empathy. Most people understands but lacks the will, and others are just on the psychopathy spectrum.

[@rugbystories3344]

@@Veegan4theanimals it's not lack of empathy it's just nature bruv we were designed by nature to eat meat too, you know i can make the Same argument about plants right

[@andewprod]

@@Veegan4theanimals One has to accept that your way to see morality is not shared by most people. We are humans, we have to get by. Meat and eggs are a great protein source and if you care about the process of making it should be the decision of everyone themselves.

[@Veegan4theanimals]

@@andewprod I have been vegan for 15 years. I'm not rich. I'm just a simple person. I grew up in Brasil. The more money we had the more meat during the week we ate. Eating animal body parts seems to be related to status, especially in my country. Unless you are in a desert island where there is nothing but ice I think you can justify them eating animals. Other than that you are just participating in the animal Holocaust. The worst , oldest and longest Holocaust in the history of earth. " As long as there are slaughter houses there will be battlefields." Leo Tolstoy

[@jordanbethanne]

I agree with the end about PETA and language. I do not like a lot of PETA's methods. I no longer follow anything they do. But I have been vegan for 14 years. And I can understand what drives them.

[@mesCheerios]

im about the same as you except 15 years vegan, but sometimes the claims against peta are so absurd i wonder if they are actually true? like stealing pet dogs? i am sceptical because i know how people love to trash anything vegan. but obviously i can't support that

[@mesCheerios]

*abducting pet dogs would be more accurate phrasing

[@SSS208-s]

@@mesCheeriosI feel like the dog one was a accident since the dog didn’t have a collar and was in a trailer park with a lot of strays

[@lasseniclasmengel2324]

Danke!

[@symmetriebrecher]

I get the motivation of Shapiro not aligning his moral behaviour (not only eating habits) with his moral standards due to his political location on the right: It has a tactical background because vegans are considered as left and woke (soy boy meme). I'm a right winger too in Germany and I refused to put tactical issues above the lives the others - it's just not worth it, the price the animal are paying day by day for political strategies is to high so I went vegan two years ago. So you see: it is possible to be vegan as a rightwinger - it just depends on the hierarchy of your values besides your standard not to be a hipocrite.

[@00PlPu00]

How do you square defending systems and structures that harm and exploit people with your vegan morals? P.S.: Quickly looking at your channel you are just trying to be a token... Tip: AfD and their allies won't care about you, they are racist and they despise you regardless of your support. Stop being so gullible.

[@andewprod]

yoo du hier? Da sieht man mal dass die gradlose Einstufung in links und rechts manchmal schwierig ist. Ich bin politisch genauso eingestellt wie du aber bin vegetarier - davor veganer. Weniger für die Moral sondern eher für die Gesundheit. Auf jeden fall sehr cool dich bei solchen Kanälen kommentieren zu sehen :D

[@00PlPu00]

@@andewprod yikes

[@giulioboobzilla]

Respekt, aber Dein AfD-Content is mega-cringe - die right-wing Opfer ham Dich hart verarscht.

[@bhavikasicka3098]

Yes, I'm a Hindu (conservative, in a religious sense) but vegan (transitioning), even though veganism is radically revolutionary in Hinduism, because our culture and religion have historically relied on cow slavery and carnist myths (e.g., the cow being a kaamdhenu, who GIVES her milk, even though, as vegans, we know that is a lie, she cannot consent, her milk is TAKEN without her ability to consent).

[@eduardojardim7307]

Most right-wing personalities dont even have the bravery of conceding that veganism has a point, so kudos to him for that. I'm a social-liberal and I couldnt care less about the political ideology of my peers. I'd love to have Ben as fellow vegan. Even though veganism is evidently a progressive idea, it is also alligned with a couple of conservative values. Personal responsibility, as Ed mentions, is one of them. The sanctity of life is another one. Also, veganism is not revolutionary, it is reformist. We are not trying to create a new morality from scratch, but rather just expand the existing moral circle so it includes all sentient individuals. Be brave, Ben. Protect the innocent, don't take advantage of their vulnerability. You know it's the right thing to do.

[@ChrisChoi123]

yeah honestly i get what Ed is saying, but I'm astonished ben has even said half the stuff he said about veganism. most left wingers don't even do that. so definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel here for sure, but credit where credit is due.

[@okman9684]

I think you can easily be a right winger and vegan or vegetarian. Look at Vivek Ramaswami. He is quite right wing and still vegetarian. Not a vegan necessarily but in an interview he explained quite eloquently why he is vegetarian while being a right winger

[@AngelJamieJules]

George Martin (@CarnismDebunked) comes off as pretty right-wing too, but he's one of the strongest voices for vegan activism. He even criticized Michael Knowles for his anti-vegan segment.

[@elliotnicklinmusic]

Right wingers cling to tradition. Perhaps the tradition he’s clinging to is a vegetarian one.

[@LoversRfighters]

Right wingers don't necessarily cling to tradition they just see it as a better way than the so called alternatives available or presented. There's a distinct difference in this point @@elliotnicklinmusic

[@abdvs325]

I always assumed there were more left wingers who are vegan though. Because in my mind the left is about equality (of treatment, of opportunity and ultimately of power) and therefore necessarily about empathy.

[@AngelJamieJules]

@@abdvs325 This is usually how it plays out. It's why the concept of "total liberation" or veganarchism is what it is. They oppose racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, etc, so they conclude that they should extend this mentality to speciesism as well.

[@leaulentille2764]

Ben knows that if he does change his diet to veganism he will draw the ire of his lucrative fan base. A man has to have his priorities. Additionally, because he belongs to a religion that clearly supports carnivory, he has a dogma problem as well.

[@Skogstjarn]

Google Jewish vegetarianism and veganism, there is a Wiki page about it.

[@Josiena-i3h]

#christspiracy

[@harveyplantharvester1502]

@@Josiena-i3h Thanks for promoting Christspiracy -- it clearly proves that the "religion" does NOT support carnivore diets, but the opposite.

[@BlessingsfromBridget]

I said I was a hypocrite long before I went vegan, but I had to go through the stage I recognized my hypocrisy before I became vegan.

[@WhyArentYouVegan]

If you think you know where you would have stood on slavery if you lived hundreds of years ago, just look at where you stand on animal rights today. If you're still having sentient beings enslaved, mutilated, tortured and murdered for a sandwich, even though you know better, then don't be so sure that you would have been against slavery back then.

[@vegan_vignettes]

If animal products were better for the environment than plants, vegans would still not eat animals. Environmentalism has no meaningful affect on veganism as a philosophy.

[@bruise_willis]

I can turn it back - if plants are better for environment, I still won't give up meat.

[@vegan_vignettes]

@@bruise_willis well that's kind of the opposite of the point I was making. That would just mean you wouldn't be considered a vegan OR an environmentalist.

[@maaaaaap]

@@vegan_vignettes so if you are a vegan because of environmental reasons, you are not a vegan?

[@maaaaaap]

@@bruise_willis i dont know why you felt the need to say this lol. this is what most people do.

[@vegan_vignettes]

@@maaaaaap Correct. You would be an environmentalist. Let me give you an example: If tomorrow you woke up and discovered the climate crisis was solved, and the animal ag industry had figured out a way to raise and kill animals with net zero emissions, would you go back to eating animals? Because a vegan (someone who is against the exploitation of animals) would not, but a non-vegan plant-based environmentalist might.

[@danielmcdermott3558]

Why do people confuse expertise with popularity. We are broken.

[@EricLewandowski-vn7ky]

Because of lizard brain. Tribe leader? We must listen to him to survive!

[@SpellracecarBackwards]

Whoooooop whoop, new earthling ed video dropped

[@Rescue127]

The whole point here is if you know that you're a hypocrite about something then you start to change and that's how maturity growth happens. I do appreciate that Ben is being honest but by not changing and staying a hypocrite trillions of animals are horrifically suffering and dying for people's taste buds and that is not acceptable. I am vegan for the animals first and foremost. They deserve a life of Happiness just like people do.

[@angolangel]

You rightfully bring up his Good Ranchers ad, but I think it’s also worth discussing that this is a major revenue source for him. I’ve listened to several Daily Wire host podcasts and they always have ads for Good Ranchers. Lots of ad money coming in from this company. If Ben went vegan, he would lose a lot monetarily speaking. It’s the same reason even an otherwise very thoughtful and self reflective farmer might go out of his way not to understand the arguments a vegan is making to him. He just doesn’t know how he will earn his living if he accepts that it’s wrong to kill animals, so he refuses to accept it. This, in my opinion, is another reason why Ben would rather live acknowledging his hypocrisy but pretending he has no obligation to correct it. The Daily Wire’s far right rhetoric is often highly inflammatory (and I say that as a person who listens from time to time because I’m actually fairly conservative in many of my views (and also vegan for many years!) It must be difficult to secure consistent ad revenue, and to alienate a sponsor of all his shows by using his platform to promote veganism (which he would do just by becoming vegan) would be a very difficult thing to do. It would also be the right thing to do, and he really should do it. But it would certainly be difficult.

[@redmaidenren]

This comment 💯💯💯 It is particularly sickening when these commentators prioritize their grifting over their conscience…

[@Phoenix51291]

@@redmaidenren making money isn't "grifting".

[@redmaidenren]

@@Phoenix51291 Sure buddy

[@Corilo91]

I would love to see a debate between Ed and Ben. Not that the two are even slightly comparable in terms of critical thinking... Ben is a freaking propagandist.

[@uncoiledfish2561]

As far as the right goes. I see Ben as one of the better ones. The debate between them would be a waste of time. I don't think Ben would disagree with Ed.

[@Corilo91]

@@uncoiledfish2561 I agree, Ben is really not the worst out there.

[@redmaidenren]

@@Corilo91Probably a debate between Ed and someone like Jordan Peterson, an avid carnist, would be more interesting 🤔

[@Corilo91]

@@redmaidenren I would like to see that too, but the problem with Peterson is that he became almost incapable of sustaining a debate. In the last years he got less and less mentally lucid...

[@beastvg123]

Ben is correct about gender identity and somewhat correct about abortion. He is also favorable toward Vegans. Other than being associated with the Daily Wire, and schizos like Peterson he's fine.

[@Samuel-vq4ii]

I'm quite a bit to the right of Shapiro and I went vegan, so hopefully he acts on it too. I went vegan overnight (after watching one video from Joey and one from you) and I see veganism as a recognition of the rights of animals. I want the rights of humans respected, so why not extend it to animals?

[@clownworldhereticmyron1018]

Have you had any productive conversations with fellow right-leaning people regarding veganism and what kind of talking points do you use? I'm struggling with lots of my friends outright rejecting veganism as a concept because they view it as "leftist" and "globalist"

[@Samuel-vq4ii]

@@clownworldhereticmyron1018Of course. You’ll struggle with the moderate right because their values tend to be a bit scattered and don’t have a starting point. One of the things that resonates most with me is the property rights argument. Other animals conform to these norms just like we do because it’s in our/their nature. Any consistent right-winger (on the far-right, the moderate right aren’t very consistent in the first place) will admit this. Some moderate right-wingers will be easily moved further to the right, but not to the left, so pushing them to be more consistent in their right-wing beliefs could set up the vegan debate pretty well. Three basic principles: 1. Self-ownership 2. Initial appropriation 3. Voluntary transfer It’s basically impossible to refute these principles, given all sentient beings follow something like this.

[@kco1165]

I watch a lot of Ben's content, so I've actually seen A LOT of segments over the years that showed he has some sympathy for the animals unalived for meat. A couple of months ago, Ben did a youtube short reacting to Gary Yourofsky debunking a meat eater argument, and his response wasn't a full embrace, but implied that Gary basically ate in that argument. There was another video where he reacts to Thanksgiving TikToks, and one of the clips was a person with a pet turkey alongside a cooked turkey in the oven, which is supposed to be funny in some people's eyes, and he thought it was sad and mentioned he is one of the people that would like for lab grown meat to happen. While we all (vegans) wish he would embrace what he clearly knows what is the ethical choice, I still think it's huge to have a person with his large of a platform (let alone conservative) even just acknowledging that there is a moral dilemma in unaliving animals. It shows he is a lot more honest than he has to be and seems to think it's important enough to vocalize to his audience on multiple occasions. Ben doing that is better than most people, so I have to give credit on that.

[@AshJammy]

I like the video he did where he openly mocks and misgenders trans people to his audience of braindead sheep! Ben Shapiro is not even sympathetic to other humans, don't count on him becoming any kind of vegan activist.

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

Fantastic to hear you speaking up for invertebrate animals, and against the utterly ludicrous idea that veganism involves eating them. Great job. 👍

[@jackspinner4727]

People don’t realize how big of an industry hunting and fishing are. Zero shot that happens

[@ayyy9701]

yeah they even have special rights and subsidies this is why I don't pay taxes as a vegan

[@allandm]

I have quite a few friends who are like, ah yeah when lab meat comes ill go for that. It's kind of annoying

[@jayeshpatel9854]

Yeah most people have no sense of urgency on the matter. It's sad.

[@uncoiledfish2561]

Get them to go half way at least. Buying the occasional vegan product helps. Or they could learn a recipe that doesn't involve meat.

[@rondarkman.]

I'll just stick to the good animals

[@allandm]

@@rondarkman. Okay Satan

[@rondarkman.]

@allandm Lol satan ? Why

[@timothys9288]

You can tell when people have a conscience. Also, Ben admitted he was bullied and picked on as a kid, so he inherently knows what it's like to be abused and I think that he's clearly got the capacity to have empathy for animals. I hope Ben one day realizes this, makes the connection and has the courage to live his values regardless of if his conservative audience don't share them.

[@Empathy4Animals411]

What a nice comment. I genuinely like Ben, support most of his views, and I do hope so, too.

[@Grace_Psychology]

Almost 7 months vegan! 🌱

[@JakeEliteYT]

I’m a vegan and I’d never consider myself as someone on the “left”. Not sure why being vegan means we are considered on the “left”. I disagree with many left views.

[@elliminator9527]

Same

[@AshJammy]

I think it's because right wing has come to mean socially right instead of economically right. When I see someone say they are right wing today I usually think they are anti trans, anti choice, anti marriage equality etc which seem to run counter to veganism's "cause no unnecessary harm" model.

[@dheerajpimoli9539]

​@@AshJammytoday's right commentator are on right till veganism comes to the picture then they will become super left like subsidizing animal farmer. I think today's politics is not based on principle rather based on what is more convenient that's why we see so much division.

[@bobhill4364]

​@@dheerajpimoli9539You've heard right wing commentators defend farm subsidies? I haven't heard such a thing. The position is simply that people have a right to eat meat.

[@bobhill4364]

​@@stefanib1040Being on the left economically means supporting the idea that all economic activity fundamentally belongs to the government and they are better equipped to allocate what we produce than ourselves.. In short, we work, they spend.

[@maxpoulin256]

Awareness does not equal caring unfortunately

[@rondarkman.]

I cook my animal products with great care

[@edcooper1422]

Thanks for your talk at vegan campout, was my highlight. Great communication and really moving. Living amongst meat eaters you learn by the death of a thousand cuts to keep quiet about the animals. Hearing that reflected back surrounded by thousands of people who feel the same was euphoric. Keep going Ed you are an inspiration.

[@ThomGustavsson-ir3lt]

From the little I have seen of Ben he seems like a deeply intelligent and thinking individual. Him recognizing his hypocritical stance reminds me much of myself circa 11 years ago before I went vegan.

[@kilometreman]

28:34 Excellent point about punishing animals, and in a horrible way, for something humans have done. People commit this fallacy or similar often and it's sad.

[@HazVegan]

12:02 this is such a great insight Ed. Carnism needs to reinforce itself not only through accepting and embracing certain ideas but by cultivating identities that reject the antithesis (veganism).

[@richardw7010]

I struggle to understand the red pill, or whatever colour it is today, around masculinity and meat. To me it's clear that protecting the innocent is a masculine trait, so not sure why it is reversed in their world? 🤷‍♂

[@YassenChapkanov]

Right wing masculinity is about projecting strength not compassion. The second requires a higher level of vulnerability which insecure right wing grifters presents as weakness.

[@English_Rose4]

I could never eat animals regardless of if people think they taste nice, to me I just feel 🤢🤮 plus Animals are amazing and need our protection and care. Animal Rights Now!

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

Damn straight. After a while the idea of eating dead flesh feels right up there with the idea of eating excrement. Not my kind of thing.

[@DiamondCake2]

Animal rights in 10 minutes once I’ve finished this burger thanks!

[@badronald5314]

Non-human animals don’t have rights that they can’t claim, nor can they claim rights that they don’t have.

[@AaronTaylor12]

I thought this too until I had my first burger after 5 years 🍔🤤

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

@@AaronTaylor12 Yeah, plant-based burgers are great. Have you tried VFC plant-based chicken, too? 🍔🤤

[@sophieh.2986]

I said to people I am a hippocrite when I was vegetarian, because I knew veganism was the right thing to do, but I just loved cheese so much I could not bring myself to give it up (I am swiss for context, we have an eating culture revolving heavily around cheese). After 8 years vegetarianism, I ginally succeeded in going vegan. but I still crave cheese very much, even now 5 years vegan.

[@calum3452]

He’s also a major Zionist.

[@tunic]

what's the point of trying to prove that he's a hypocrite when he already said so himself?

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Maybe you should watch this video again. Ed wasn't trying to prove Ben was a hypocrite about veganism if Ben said it. Ed was trying to call Ben to act on his supposed beliefs if he is for veganism. But Ben was hypocritical in other ways which Ed talked about. Such as Ben saying people get over offended when he got overly offended at PETA calling the mass daily systemic killing of livestock a Holocaust. Ed also criticized Ben for other things like getting hung on words and semantics too much when that doesn't change reality, like animal abuse. And Ben also claimed to care about truth and reality, but Ben fell prey to getting offended, distracted, and tangled in words too much. Ed also talked about the problem of how some people use admitting they're hypocritical as a excuse to not have action. Also, how do you know Ben wasn't just giving lip service to the man who called Ben out to his face? And that maybe Ben didn't plan to act on his views for veganism.

[@veggiemikeellis]

I did a vid on this a while back. Well said Ed! You put it better than me.

[@NickSheppardsheppsta]

This video nails the problem of veganism perfectly. When I realised I was a non-vegan hypocrite the biggest barrier for taking action wasn't necessarily the change in lifestyle but how others would perceive me. That's why we need more right-wingers to "come out" so as to normalise the lifestyle and remove that vanity barrier. Great video as always Ed 👌

[@NickSheppardsheppsta]

BTW. My solution was to tell my wife and peers that I am just going to "try veganism out". They were OK with that. One month became two, two became 6, 6 become life. They had to get used to the idea of my new identity.

[@YassenChapkanov]

​@@NickSheppardsheppstaMaking veganism an identity undermines it's philosophical foundation. It's a flawed but compassionate position and should be advocated not on the basis of tribes but on the basis of mutually understood vulnerability

[@NickSheppardsheppsta]

@@YassenChapkanov nicely said 👌

[@maxwell_edison]

Ben Shapiro's views on many things are a bit.. wonky

[@Gee-xb7rt]

many things? lol.

[@bingochoice]

to put it mildly

[@stephenshuman1]

I like his free market views on the economy.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

@@stephenshuman1 spoiler alert there never has been and never will be a free market.

[@CRM-114]

@@stephenshuman1 "Free market" lol. More like a licence to exploit others.

[@GregOrCreg]

I do think recognising one's hypocrisy is the first step to change. I may not like Ben Shapiro. I may not care for his hypocrisy. BUT I do respect his intellectual honesty, because as least it offers the possibility of change. He recognises what the right thing to do is. He just needs to finally 'take the plunge' so to speak. I suppose the problem are those people who are comfortable with their own hypocrisy but I'm not sure Shapiro is. He's such a high-profile figure and as this video demonstrates, he is being held to account by others for his hypocrisy, so, eventually, it feels like he may have no choice but to change. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but it's certainly preferable to someone who ties themselves in knots trying to 'intellectually' defend the indefensible in order to 'justify' their own lifestyle.

[@martialartsnerd7673]

I would love for you to be able to have an interview with Ben.

[@RVP1955]

Thanks!

[@clarecurtis36]

Thanks for what you do, Ed! Vegan for life ☮️

[@lorihowell1032]

I don't understand why people think you can only care about and fight against one atrocity.

[@heleen313]

Why he isn’t bothered by being a hypocrite? 1) because the majority of people is hypocritical, he’s covered by the social norm, nobody will judge him 2) because these days, it seems that doing bad things is hardly judged as long as you admit them 😕

[@DiestroCorleone]

To be honest, and trust me, I dislike Ben Shapiro as much as the next guy, but at least he's honest about his hypocrisy. I have to give it to him. I mean, I remember when I used to justify my consumption of animal products, then started admitting it was wrong but I couldn't/didn't want to stop, and then I went vegan. Who knows, maybe I'm giving the guy too much credit, but most meat eaters would rather stay in their comfortable congnitive dissonance before admitting what they're doing is, at the very least, questionable.

[@thehotyounggrandpas8207]

Ben also believes that there is a magic man in the sky who wants Ben to wear a silly little hat.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

As a Christian, I eat "meat" with a clear conscience but, of course, you're welcome to your opinion.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@Mich-G The originator of this thread.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@Mich-G Hat people believe Exodus 12 & Leviticus 11 &.. lots of OT stuff. There's no V in the OT.. or the NT.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@Mich-G I'm firmly in the sphere camp, as the elegant laws of physics are God's laws. Job 26:7 (KJV): '7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.'

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@Mich-G The statement that God 'hangeth the earth upon nothing' is an accurate description of physical reality. I began reading the HB while studying to become a fizzix teacher & didn't sense that I'd have to choose between faith & science. They belong to complementary dimensions, rather than being mutually exclusive.

[@lesleydove1127]

Quite a lot of my non-vegan Christian prolife friends have admitted I am being consistent as a vegan (I am equally involved in prolife work as in animal rights) and yet frustratingly they do not go vegan! But how many vegans admit they are not consistent when it comes to respect for human life in the womb? A great many in my experience

[@well_alby_damned]

That sponsor tie in was absolutely wild

[@IsaacWale2004]

Being vegan is easy nowadays (depending on your place geographically), and it wasn't this easy 30 years ago. In 50 years, I think the majority will be at minimum vegetarian.

[@cynicalidealist11]

For the algorithm

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂 brave warrior 😂😂😂

[@rudybonfini2285]

9:52 I think this is a bit reaching, he didn’t say he was a good person on this specific topic, he admitted he was hypocritical about it, and he did not “virtue signal” around it

[@carnismiscancer2108]

Earthling Ed can't be stopped!

[@Trolloftruth]

Except by a bacon cheeseburger menu! Or real chicken wings!! 🐔

[@Beastmaster8698]

Huh? ​@@Trolloftruth

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

he's gonna shoot Ed with menus and real chicken wings? ​@@Beastmaster8698

[@RoidRage-yc7yg]

@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer I think he means that Ed can speak a lot of pretty words but in comparison to a delicious bacon cheeseburger Ed loses. People will choose a bacon cheeseburger over pretty words every day of the week.

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer 😂😂😂 👍👍👍👍👍

[@heidistrecht9771]

I am a right wing vegan. There is alot of right wing vegans, it's a stereotype that vegans have blue hair and are homosexual.

[@pmw3839]

He said he was a hypocrite. If he was a vegan, then he wouldn’t be a hypocrite. I am a vegan now, but for many years, although I knew I was in the wrong morally, I couldn’t bring myself to give up consuming animal products. Moreover, I was overweight and desperate to lose weight all my adult life, but stress drove me to overeat and eat junk food. I totally get what Ben is saying. What we want to do, and what we can manage are two very different things.

[@mikethats4thebirds600]

Thank you, you seem very reasonable - so many here bashing Ben when they were once hypocrites too. I'm a fan of just about all of his views, I really want him to be vegan.

[@AaronTaylor12]

@@pmw3839 weird I was way more overweight as a vegan

[@pmw3839]

@@AaronTaylor12 I am whole food plant based. For the first time in my adult life weight is not a problem. Did you eat a lot of processed vegan food? I eat a lot of nuts and my weight does go up a bit when I do so.

[@AaronTaylor12]

@@pmw3839 yes I ate whatever I wanted to just like I do in a herbivore diet.

[@pmw3839]

@@AaronTaylor12 Well, I can only tell you what happened to me. I am 66, and had struggled with being overweight since my mid teens. It got a lot better when I retired (at 60) because I cut out all processed food (though I was still an omnivore). I realised, at this point, that my inability to do this before I retired was because of chronic stress. I had tried very hard to lose weight all my adult life, but never succeeded for long. After 60, I lost weight but I still had to keep an eye on my weight, as it would creep up, especially if I was under stress. About 2 years ago I became a whole food vegan and I lost a further stone without trying. And now, although my weight does fluctuate, it always stays on the low side. For the first time since my teens, I can forget about my weight, as it looks after itself.

[@tylerjcranford]

28:15 this really, really resonated with me. It is baffling that people do this, huh?

[@willb2568]

Great video Ed! miss your campus debates!

[@JR954]

We are living in a topsy turvy world. Red is blue and facts are not true. 😢😂😮😅

[@georgetavola490]

Great vid Ed highlighting the blatant and obvious hypocrisy of Shapiro’s position! Re: that ad - IMO most branding and marketing is manipulation that appeals to values and identity politics. A smart PR campaign could easily promote the ethics of veganism to align with conservative patriotic values of the right.

[@ondrejkapral4440]

Hearing some of Shapiro's reasoning, it is the same for Same Harris. I'm big fan of Sam as public intellectual, listening to his podcast and meditation app. But his position on veganism was always hard to bend with his other views. Here are some: supporter of cultivated meat, admitting moral inconsistency and hypocrisy of eating meat but doing so anyway, tried being vegetarian when younger and felt "miserable without energy", teaching buddhist-inspired compassion and kindness, as neuroscientist he's convinced at minimum mammals (maybe birds) are conscious with capacity to suffer and feel joy ... Ed, I recommend to do similar analysis on Sam. It would be more complex landscape than Shapiro's case, for sure.

[@NoOne-hg1qc]

"at minimum mammals and maybe birds" ??? yikes .. i'd say the evidence is unequivocal for birds, for various aquatic animals .. piling up for even simpler fish, for reptiles, for insects lol .. I'd hope Sam Harris has gotten past mammals and birds by now

[@Scott-M1]

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" - Oscar Wilde

[@मृदुलशर्मा]

Its very simple. He has a certain audience, he needs to speak to that audience, if he were to go vegan or even make sound vegan arguments he would get a huge backlash from people who support him the most, which no one wants.

[@CRM-114]

Ben Shapiro and logic - oil and water.

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

Ben Shapiro fans won't get this.

[@DiamondCake2]

Oil and water were both created by god so they’re both the same, chew on that logic boy! 😂

[@CRM-114]

@@DiamondCake2 Ok, so you don't know how analogies work. Must be fun to live in your skin.

[@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer]

​@@DiamondCake2 I hope you're not an adult in charge of important things or other people. Even if your skydaddy made both, oil is still hydrophobic, so they don't mix. I wish your "god" gave you some logic and reasoning skills. Ben Shapiro is logicphobic.

[@Priority76]

@@DiamondCake2 Oil and water were both not created by god so they are not the same. There you go god boy!

[@breathinghereonearth]

Well done Ed! This video needs to get to Ben Shapiro's ears.

[@kendramarkworth6855]

You hit the nail on the head with the comparison between him being right wing and not being vegan. I think this is the exact reason why. I'm an American living smack dab in the middle of right wing, republican, midwest. I'm also married to a meat eating, hunting, fishing, get your hands dirty guy. I hate that it is ingrained in the entirety of this area and the people here. I don't go around proclaiming it's wrong to be eating a burger because i feel like I'd be stoned! They consider it American to eat meat and if you don't, you're somehow not allowed to be a right wing, republican, American loving person...which I am. I just don't eat the cute "grass puppies" or their babies milk. Lol

[@Barnaclebeard]

Such tribalism. Why would you see that and then still value it. It's not like veganism is the only thing that they are like this about. It's impossible to have a rational discussion because they reduce everything down to good and evil, patriotism and loyalty. "Loving America" is just more virtue signalling.

[@WolfLamborghini]

Ed makes so many great points here. I had to write them down so that the next time I'm confronted with stupidity, I can respond effectively.

[@MarxistOrc]

Ben is a product, one I have no interest in buying AT ALL.

[@respectkindness-oj6xz]

know your true value and preciousness even if people would not acknowledge. be careful. wishing you the best, peace, health, wellbeing, blessings and all good

[@kristinburton4953]

Ben's God is cruel so as long as that's a fact it gives Ben an out. Ben's God enjoys a burnt offering.

[@anneshaughnessy2754]

Congratulations on nearly half a million subscribers! This is surely a good sign that people are waking up.

[@rondarkman.]

😂😂😂😂

[@rondarkman.]

Nah

[@alisiademi]

The part about his feelings...burrrnnnn🔥 🔥 🔥

[@goat2503]

Agreed with your comments surrounding Veganism being tied into the sociopolitical rhetoric where the true definition of veganism from a purely ethical point of view ends up being misrepresented. It’s a very simple philosophical stance, avoid harming non human animals as far as practicable and possible. Keeping the argument simple, makes for less nonsense rhetoric that takes focus away from the core issue.

[@Alexroberts666]

I think the very fact that he said that he was at least a hypocrite is extremely loyal to the idea of moral truth, or objectivity

[@mikethats4thebirds600]

GOOD COMMENT, thank you. I really like Ben Shapiro.

[@Alexroberts666]

@@mikethats4thebirds600 me too

[@lettmonster]

true, but it also reveals weak character.

[@Alexroberts666]

@@lettmonster oh

[@Empathy4Animals411]

@@lettmonster Did you admit you were hypocrite before becoming vegan? Be honest now.

[@ellen2068]

Thank you for your integrity Ed! Always refreshing to watch your eloquent and morally consistent talks

[@ValeriaRossellini]

Vegan for the animals 💗💗💗💗

[@tom4412]

Hi, meat eater for the insects here

[@ValeriaRossellini]

@@tom4412 Why would someone care about insects if they don’t even care about mammals? To find real solutions our society would have to start valuing animal lives to begin with. But just in case you actually care about by kill: We need to grow way more crops when we are raising animals than if we were only feeding the human population. Switching to a plant based diet could already cut the need for cropland by more than a half, imagine that would mean less by kill as well.

[@mrfob6237]

Thank you ED for the incredibly balanced commentary on this video. I'm a huge fan are you and your work. I saw a trend in some of your commentary on different videos where I felt that you're stoic approach was slipping in favour of a more emotionally triggered commentary. I'm so happy to see you returning to form as the pillar of logic and reason that inspired me to go vegan in the first place. Keep up the great work.

[@Suzy24]

This was an excellent video and no I don’t think there is any chance that Ben will stop eating meat because other conservatives will judge him for it and he would probably lose money. He 100% cares more for money and his reputation than he does for animals.

[@jamesworley9888]

Veganism doesn't limit your political spectrum though guys, I hope everyone understands that. And vegan DOES NOT mean woke or radical leftest, lets break the stereotypes!!! I am Vegan and a right leaning moderate I believe the left has very insane views of some things.

[@00PlPu00]

It is contradictory to defend the animal liberation while upholding the oppression and exploitation of humans (who are also animals)