Everything Wrong With Leviticus 11 in the Bible

[@annalisewhitacre8404]

When I was a Christian, I used to skip books like Leviticus and most Priestly sources because they were so boring. It's only when I started actually reading these aspects that I started questioning everything I'd been told. Looking forward to the rest of this series!

[@wayfa13]

In my experiences priests/pastors prefer to skip "books like Leviticus and most Priestly sources" too, else people start asking the difficult questions, which result in them uttering things like how adults should come as children to the lord (trusting and asking no questions of authority) and how you need to put on your (horse) blinders so that your focus is only on god and god only. Or you could go full Ham like my fundie pastor when I was a kid and go through Leviticus and Exodus with such conviction and bluster that nobody dared to ask why/how people deserved this from a god that supposedly had their best interests at heart.

[@christopherbarnes2510]

@@wayfa13 strange enough as a former agnostic. (Until Just about 4 years ago) it is the book of exudus and leviticus that made me truly understand the new testament

[@justinwatson1510]

Are you saying you went from agnostic to Christian?

[@taylormurphy5535]

You were never a Christian. As it says in John, they went out from us because they were not of us. If they were one of us, they would have remained.

[@lh1673]

When I was a child my devoted mom told me to read the Bible every day, so I tried but gave up when reading Leviticus!

[@WetDoggo]

That didn't go as expected 😂

[@lh1673]

Sad part is, I couldn’t realize these stories were just a myth more earlier been indoctrinated for long time. At last I woke up!

[@WetDoggo]

@@lh1673 you didn't wake up, you accepted the facts

[@michellebrickner9307]

This sounds like the rules were being read aloud and someone in the crowd kept asking, "But what if . . . ?" So the author just came up with some answers and wrote them down so the next person could maintain consistency.

[@tomitiustritus6672]

I wish that was a Monthy Python sketch.

[@wayfa13]

@@tomitiustritus6672 sure sounds like a script for one

[@tomitiustritus6672]

@@wayfa13 " _And what about locusts that only walks on 4 legs?_ " "Yes, AND locusts that walk on 4 legs too." " _And if the locust wears a tiny hat?_ " "Yes, you can eat locusts that walk on 4 legs and wear tiny hats too. Why wouldn't you?" " _Oh i thought what if they wear the tiny hat because they are just walking on their 4 tiny legs to their tiny locust church to worship a tiny Yahweh?_ " "Then you shall not eat locusts walking on 4 legs, wearing tiny hats on the morning of Sabbath, to be safe. Any more questions?" " *What if i see a Hyrax that has split hoofs and chews cud?* " " Have you ever seen a Hyrax with split hoofs? ." " *But what if i see one that has split hoofs?* " " They don't have hoofs! Stop it Paul! " " _But i've also never seen Hyraxes or Rabbits chewing cud and the Lord says they do, so why should we draw an arbitrary line with hoofs?_ " " If it has split hoofs and chews cud, you can eat your Hyrax. Statisfied? " " *What about a Capybara?* " " Don't be ridiculous, Paul! There is no such thing as a Cuppy Bara. "

[@nataliaborys1554]

God: Don't you dare eat bats! Humans: *eat bat soup* God: Oh now you've done it...

[@blazer8026]

When I was a Christian, i pretty much never read the bible. I’m now an atheist. Now that I’m listening to the bible book by book through these videos, I’m like, wtf??? I’m VERY glad I left Christianity and I will never go back

[@massey904]

By your own admission you weren't a real Christian.

[@Anonymous42316]

@@massey904 Are you saying that people who don’t read the Bible aren’t true Christians?

[@massey904]

@@Anonymous42316 True Christians read the Bible.

[@Nosregni]

@@massey904 What do true Scotsmen read?

[@MaxtheFinger]

@@massey904 They do?

[@elainejohnson6955]

Unclean until evening?!? You magically become clean then?!? If you touch it 1 minute before evening you will be clean in a minute. Lesson= wait until right before evening and do what you want.

[@markozagar]

So, if I understand this correctly, if a dead animal falls into the spring (well?), it will remain clean, but no one is allowed to pick up the carcass out of the water because that would make them unclean. I guess drinking that water is totally fine though. Also, what happened to "god created all the living creatures and everything that creeps on the ground and saw that it was good"? Suddenly it's (almost) all icky?

[@corozal987]

"suddenly it's all icky" that phrase made me laugh out loud for reals!! Good one!

[@leviangel97]

So you can touch the animal... you just need to get "ceremonially clean" again. Or like... move it with a tool instead of your hands

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 is that winter, spring, Aquarius or Zeus, Saturn and a leprechaun equinox type thirst or just thirst make up your mind Harvey.

[@WetDoggo]

Lol good points 😂 But you can't apply knowledge and logic to the Bible... OR ELSE!!! 🤣

[@WetDoggo]

@@leviangel97 or like just keep drinking this rotting animal soup, since God clearly states that wells stay perfectly clean no matter what 🤣

[@tomsenior7405]

"Come on, Ted. Sure it's no more peculiar than all that stuff we learned in the seminary, you know, Heaven and Hell and everlasting life and all that type of thing. You're not meant to take it seriously, Ted!" Quote by Father Dougal McGuire.

[@teresah268]

I love that series! It's the only "religious" thing I watch. 🤭

[@garryferrington811]

One of the all-time great sitcoms!

[@tomsenior7405]

@@teresah268 Will you not have a Cup of Tea? Aww, Go on.

[@tomsenior7405]

@@garryferrington811 Will you not have a Cup of Tea? Go on. Go on. Go on.

[@teresah268]

@@tomsenior7405 Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on.. GO ON!

[@kevinstewart1878]

Ok, the error I noticed, if it's an accurate translation, "of insects that walk on all fours" this would indicate only having 4 legs. But insects by definition all have 6 legs. In 2500 years no one noticed that? Tells you how many Christians read this

[@stevewebber707]

It specified walking on four, not having only four. As to how many Christians actually read it? I'm betting a low percentage.

[@jenna2431]

You need a leg count not to eat bugs?

[@davidabonyi4556]

@@stevewebber707 yeah but how many instects walk on four legs? I'm no expert but other than Mantids I can't name a single one.

[@PA1606X]

Phew, I can stick to Aberdeen Angus as all those bugs are unclean, thanks god.

[@andrewholdaway813]

Plenty of people have noticed, and plenty of excuses made.

[@johnalanelson]

I believe locusts were permitted because when there is a plague of locusts, there is nothing else to eat!

[@dunbar9finger]

So the alleged creator of all life on Earth doesn't know that he himself made grasshoppers and locusts have 6 legs not 4. And he doesn't know that bats are not birds. Gee maybe these are the words of humans who didn't know better rather than the words of a god.

[@bladerunner3314]

And who obviously couldn't count past 4

[@corozal987]

Exactly what I thought, these so called words of the Lord, are just mere manifestations of the people of the time.

[@wayfa13]

@@corozal987 pretty much. The limited and non-scientific understandings of iron age sheep herders, that terrified them witless. They just weren't there yet and they tried their best. But sometimes, best is still not good enough...

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@wayfa13 Seems to me that their best brought out the worst in humans

[@LPNurja]

I wasn't really aware of the no touching rule, I thought it was eating only. Now the muslima who wouldn't touch pork lunch meat when we were preparing it makes a whole lot of more sense. Also, the list just reads like some dude listing what he finds gross, and then pretending god told him and everyone is unclean to eat, so he wouldn't have to deal with no more...

[@XxlightxX]

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[@Asa...S]

There were probably some pot maker who payed off Moses to put the line about you having to break the pot if something "unclean" fell into a pot in Leviticus. Making good money selling new pots to people.

[@trikitrikitriki]

You can't tell me there weren't tons of people straight up ignoring some rules, such as this one.

[@KeriRautenkranz]

Well, that was millennia before mass-production of inexpensive pots. A pot would have been relatively expensive either in money or time spent to make. I'm thinking the pot-makers would be horrified that the Israelites started smashing crockery, and probably cut them off rather than encourage them...

[@kendee4421]

Orthodox Jews still throw away or destroy their cookware every year. Their kitchen is divided in two, one side for preparing meat, the other for vegetables etc. They must not put meat on the veg side and vice versa. They won't eat meat and dairy at the same meal because of the 'cooking a kid in its mother's milk' line.

[@trikitrikitriki]

@@kendee4421 That's strange because eating is not cooking.

[@KeriRautenkranz]

@@trikitrikitriki Not as strange as believing in the Hebrew War God in the first place! 😀

[@constancetorseth6648]

Again, a few chapters back, the book said eating carcasses would result in that person being put out of the camp and ostracized. Now it says they're unclean till evening. For such a detailed account of holy practices, it doesn't seem to remember what it just said.

[@aptpatten]

It'd have been a much much shorter series if it was "Everything right in the Bible" but then again, we would have missed out on some great videos

[@Boonehams]

"Clean land animals must have cloven hooves AND chew cud." "Okay, that narrows it down a lot." "Clean sea animals must have fins AND scales." "Simple enough." "Now here's an extensive, arbitrary list of birds you can't eat..."

[@adrianblake8876]

It's actually not that extensive, only including 15 birds (and not all the birds named in the bible) out of about 200 known in the region. Also "every kind of raven" inferrs there are multiple kinds under "raven", so just ask AIG how many kinds of ravens are there, and how many did Noah bring to the ark...

[@stylesrj]

So can you eat the gannet? Because I don't like the gannet. It soils its own nest.

[@adrianblake8876]

@@stylesrj No, though it's not in the list cormorants (or ospreys, depending on the translation), seagulls and pelicans are...

[@stylesrj]

@@adrianblake8876 I was doing the bit from the Monty Python bookshop sketch...

[@adrianblake8876]

@@stylesrj Oh...

[@filthymcnasty7783]

God couldnt find time to say DONT OWN PEOPLE AS PROPERTY. . . but could say what not to eat in the deli aisle.

[@nomxhosapekani7966]

Good business idea for clay pot makers back then, go around throwing insects in people's pots so they can order new ones.

[@TheKnowledgeMan101]

Apparently God commanding different types of animals to not be eaten is just another contradiction in the bible. Because back in Genesis, God said to Noah "Everything that moveth shall be food for you". Apparently the kosher laws only apply to the Israelites but not to Noah, even though Noah was one of God's chosen people since he was chosen to save humanity and all the animals at the flood

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

@@harveywabbit9541 -- Was the story of Osiris plagiarized to give Noah a story? Or: how much (if any) of Osiris's story was stolen and attached to Noah?

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

@@harveywabbit9541 -- fascinating! ...as always 😀

[@timsmith530]

Apparently someone has things confused but rest assured God isn't

[@TheKnowledgeMan101]

@@timsmith530 yeah, like how he supposedly can't seem to manage to properly establish one unified religion and theology. Thats why there are 3 different Abrahamic religions, and and many different sects and denominations within those religions that cant agree on one unified theology.

[@devinsmith4790]

Not really since chronically wise this was before these laws were supposedly commanded by God and only towards the Israelites.

[@MovieMakingMan]

Damn, now I have to stop eating the bald eagle :(.

[@leallison648]

No you don’t have to…Put an Afro wig on the eagle to cover that bald spot, then fire up the barbecue! Yahweh would never know 😂

[@eriknystrom5839]

Another strange thing: Insects have 6 feet. What about those insects having 4 feet? There are none!

[@KeriRautenkranz]

Maybe the Israelites wiped out all the 4-footed insects?

[@eriknystrom5839]

@@KeriRautenkranz Good point! 🤓

[@l.a.gothro3999]

Insects have six legs; there are no little arthropods walking around with four legs out there, except for the ones who have two or more legs pulled off.

[@andystokes8702]

''But all other flying insects that have four legs you are to regard as unclean''. So let's make a list of all insects with four legs ........ that would be none and I counted them twice just to be sure. Insect by definition have six legs so anything these people were looking at that had four legs, regardless of whether they fly, have jointed legs, crawl across the ground or anything else could not be an insect.

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

But... 0 x 2 = 0 So did you actually count them twice or zero times? 🤔

[@andystokes8702]

@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος Yes, that is correct, that's what I did. I counted nothing twice and then twice I counted nothing and added it all up and it came to a grand total of four fifths of bugger all.

[@trikitrikitriki]

Maybe they counted two of the legs as arms?

[@andystokes8702]

@@trikitrikitriki I wouldn't be at all surprised.

[@DariusKhan]

I was thinking the same thing, along with the bats being birds. The word of god.....

[@seitisetsoh4991]

What I took from this, is that since all arthropods have MORE than 4 legs, all of them are "clean"

[@bodan1196]

@6:15 "...there are millions of kinds of insects..." None of them which has four legs. If God is soo unconcerned as to not know how many legs his own creations have... yeah... huh.

[@Peter_Scheen]

You forgot to mention that insects do not walk on all four. They have six legs. Can you eat spiders? They have eight.

[@scienceexplains302]

“They probably saw bats 🦇 flying, assumed they were birds….” No, it is probably worse than that. As AronRa pointed out, animals in the Bible are categorized by what they *do* (or where they do it), not by what they *are* . The word used for bats and birds looks like the word for fly, so they seem to be calling bats and birds “flyers”, which is accurate, but it is also an utterly naive way of categorizing animals and not what we would expect from someone inspired by the *god who supposedly designed these animals* .

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 Not in Genisis though Harvey, so why is your comment relevent?

[@tiredofliars]

You forget, the bible says god appointed Adam to name all the beasts of the field. So, if anyone is to blame it is Adam for just looking up and saying, Look, Up in the sky, it's a flyer, and another flyer, oh, and look a weird looking flyer! And by the way, all those insects that walk on all four??? Didn't they LOOK at their locusts before eating them? Well, I guess if I had to eat locusts, I wouldn't look too closely either!

[@scienceexplains302]

@@tiredofliars Genesis 2:19-20 says Adam named each of the animals, but not the categories. The categories are distinguished by what they do or where they do it. That was determined (in the story) by their form and location.

[@darkomen780]

Who tf is this AronRa? Ancient egyptian Gods?

[@scienceexplains302]

@@darkomen780 That is probably the origin of the name. He is a KZbin activist science communicator.

[@ralu9877]

The only good rule in this chapter: "do not eat bats".

[@AngryBilleh]

Man I hope god warns them not to eat from the wrong tree again otherwise it's back to the flood

[@yasminjasmine5682]

You are amazing 👓📖💯

[@perspektive42]

The christians who claim to live by the Bible, you know they don't follow any of these rules. They only pick and choose to follow a few rules later in the book, to justify their own hate.

[@jeanine219]

Yes, Michael.....and to satisfy their unbridled lust, greed, ignorance, and narcissism. Then before bed, these christians tell invisible sky dada they are sorry, and to please forgive them for that day. Then they begin their blatant transgressing all over again, as soon as they wake on the next. They bank on their conveniently contrived LOOPHOLE and ESCAPE CLAUSE, as the nightly confessions to sky dada. That way, they can regularly satisfy their greed, lusts, and prejudices, while maintaining the delusion that they will still cheat death and instead be swept away to their own little pleasure paradise.

[@visaman]

Christians were given a pass on the dietary laws. This is when Jews split from the early Church.

[@jeanine219]

@@visaman but Jesus continued to practice and observe Judaism and follow the laws. He said he did not come to change the law but to fulfill it. Jesus’ message was to the Jews only . Was it in Saul Paul’s preachings that Gentiles were welcomed, (along with their financial support of course). Why did the councils even decide to attach the Judaism books to the Christian Bible. Because that makes it part of the Christian religion. It was the Roman catholic leaders, popes, bishops etc that said incorporate the books of Judaism into this Bible, in the 4th century’s CE., perhaps to give more authority and get more support for their new book (Bible)

[@visaman]

@@jeanine219Yes, you are correct on that point. It was Paul Of Tarsus that announced the change . Rom. 14: 13-16 Forget about deciding what’s right for each other. Here’s what you need to be concerned about: that you don’t get in the way of someone else, making life more difficult than it already is. I’m convinced-Jesus convinced me!-that everything as it is in itself is holy. We, of course, by the way we treat it or talk about it, can contaminate it. If you confuse others by making a big issue over what they eat or don’t eat, you’re no longer a companion with them in love, are you? These, remember, are persons for whom Christ died. Would you risk sending them to hell over an item in their diet? Don’t you dare let a piece of God-blessed food become an occasion of soul-poisoning! Rom. 7:6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. Col. 2:16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day - Col. 2:17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

[@perspektive42]

@@visaman Yes, arbitrarily, as opposed to others, and despite their guy saying they should not change. OK, I don't mind them dropping these rules, because they are stupid. However, they kept other equally stupid rules, but maybe that's just me with my logic and principles.

[@grapeshot]

Yeah Yahweh wouldn't have been a big fan of Red Lobster🦞🦞🦞

[@rcblazer]

As a lover of bacon, I have to say "That's why you cook the meat first!" Also, you would think the all knowing creator of the universe would know the difference between a bat and a bird, but you would be incorrect.

[@WetDoggo]

Well... In the story God seems to think that after 24h and washing your clothes you instantly get clean again... Don't bother washing your hands! (well okay they probably washed their clothes by hand... Well most likely their wives or slaves though... And now we have washing machines 🤔)

[@Ascend777]

I'm convinced Christianity never stopped people from doing evil deeds because God is a fictional, powerless authority. We need an authority that serves the general public, not just the wealthy elites.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

'God's not Done.' And we have a movie title!

[@matthewrichards8218]

If I never hear the word "unclean" again....

[@typograf62]

I wonder how many flying insect walk on all four? A certain group of butterflies have a reduced pair of legs, that they do not walk on. But most other adult insects walk on all six legs, even grasshoppers. Not that I have much intention on eating butterflies, but need discards all rules.

[@BouncingCow]

Infact insects belong to the group of Hexapoda and by definition have 6 legs

[@lordshipmayhem]

As four legged insects don't exist, I'd say no insect is clean...

[@myszek512__6]

Why does everyone forget about southerners favorite fish -- catfish? Catfish have fins but NO SCALES. Thus forbidden!!!

[@glebeboi]

I presume that would also apply to eels, sharks & whales as well

[@justinwatson1510]

Whales are mammals, aren’t they?

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

Oh but you know that was OT. God changed his mind according to christians 😂

[@glebeboi]

@@justinwatson1510- yes they are - but the ruling doesn't mention what species genre they belong to. It states " of all the creatures living in the water of the seas & the streams you may eat any that have fins & scales. But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins & scales - whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water - you are to regard as unclean. ... anything living in the water that does not have fins & scales is to be regarded as unclean by you". Whales & sharks & eels as far as I can remember ALL have fins but no scales. Their meat might be weighed by scales but that's entirely different. LOL

[@kendee4421]

Have they found an ancient comedian's satirical comedy routine script? I can imagine the Israelites falling about laughing hearing this.

[@Grim_Beard]

11:25 Just wait until Jehovah finds out that all those animals with cloven hooves who chew the cud _also_ move along the ground! I guess, at the time Leviticus was written, there must have been flying cows.

[@Grim_Beard]

@@halebopp4747 Where does it say that?

[@jeanine219]

@@halebopp4747 how do you know that?

[@a.sanford8731]

And one more thing.. what insects have only four legs? Don't insects categorically have six legs?

[@entityself3104]

Yes, Insects have 3 pairs of legs or 6 legs in total, there are no insects with 4 legs.

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@entityself3104 Maybe they pulled two off when they were very hungry.

[@pizzedahff3127]

Lev 11:13-19 is one of my favorite passages in the bible. It is the only place in the bible that actually tries to define "Kind", and it lists 19 Kinds of just unclean birds. Really fucks up the whole "only two of each Kind" argument for Noah.

[@getasimbe]

Thanks for pointing this out. It actually comes out pretty clearly in those verses that by "kind" they really mean "species", because they refer to "every falcon after its kind" and "every raven after its kind". Only way that would make sense is if it was referring to the different species of falcon or raven. Throws a big wrench into the idea that only a few "kinds" were needed on the ark and that's what makes it possible.

[@joyceandrews1617]

If all creatures that move along thee ground, even those that walk on all four legs are unclean does that mean the clean animals walk on air a few feet above the ground?

[@patelk464]

@@harveywabbit9541 so what is the difference between creatures that lies on the ground but do not touch the ground when walking and those that do?

[@joyceandrews1617]

@@harveywabbit9541 where is the constellation of the camel or the katydid?

[@PaulThomas-qb9cx]

So we can eat skywalkers....

[@willievanstraaten1960]

O Man, you have the skills to make this nonsense so interesting. I like, thanks.

[@losttribe3001]

So bacon is bad? Better tell all those good, God-fearing Christians eating pounds of it at Golden Corral!

[@losttribe3001]

@@harveywabbit9541 Here we go again with this nonsense you write based on a book written in the 1800s. We’ve moved on from it Harvey, you should to.

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@harveywabbit9541 that’s why we don’t take it seriously. At all.

[@losttribe3001]

@@harveywabbit9541 How old is that stupid book you keep using and believe in? Age doesn’t equal knowledge. However, modern scientific methods and historical studies continue to give us much better information and we should adjust accordingly. But how old is the Bible? I’m not sure you are the person to talk to about this because you’ve latched yourself to a 19th century crackpot, so I’ll point you towards modern scholars such as Bart Erhman and Francesca Stravrakopoulou if you want up to date dating. There’s also Kipp Davis if you want a scholar on the Dead Sea scrolls. Edit: They are much better at explaining context, meaning and if something is allegory than you and I. But I’m an atheist. I don’t believe in the God of the Bible so your question means nothing to me. I don’t care when the Bible was written.

[@TBomb39]

@@losttribe3001 I think you misunderstand Harvey's intentions. He is not preaching from the buybull. He is only showing us the older myths from which these ideas originated. Think of it as a history lesson on ancient mythology and the source of later myths. Knowledge is power.

[@adrianblake8876]

@@TBomb39 Methinks that "19th century bull****" refers not to the bible itself, but the source cited in regards to the astrology connections to the story...

[@juba9575]

With all these rules, it would have been better to remain as slaves in Egypt 🙄

[@X1Y0Z0]

Love your read of the Bible

[@georgefleming4956]

Four legged insects? WTF?

[@jakeloranger1419]

Now I know where the notion of cooties comes from. As I recall from my childhood hours playing in the school yard, just touching someone who was judged to have cooties (girls, before puberty came about) was enough for you to be infected. And like God, the unseen forces were to be feared most.

[@perspektive42]

What about microscopic animals that live in water? It's next to impossible to drink water from a river or lake and not eat these animals. Are they clean or unclean? What about land animals with six legs (that are not insects, e.g springtails) or more than six legs (arachnids, myriapoda, etc.)? And when an unclean animal drops dead, the object it falls on becomes unclean. So when it falls onto the ground the entire ground becomes unclean? How do you then not touch the ground? Hover above it?

[@Smilley85]

I think this is the chapter that the idea of "my body is a temple" originates from.

[@robertmiller9735]

I think the very inconvenience and pointlessness of the dietary rules may be the point: make the rules impossible to follow, keep 'em guilty.

[@jeanine219]

Exactly. More pointless rules = more potential for more "sins" = more payments and benefits rolling in to moses and his priests.

[@jeanine219]

@@halebopp4747 And what religion are you here to represent Hale?

[@jeanine219]

@@halebopp4747 Because your insight is demonstrated to be very limited, based on your statement and questions. You are not looking at the medium or big pictures of any of it. I assumed you must be defending and running interference for some religion.

[@jeanine219]

@@halebopp4747 All of the tens of thousands of constructed religions, and their “laws”, have been fabricated by humans and then alleged to be backed up by one or more of thousands of mythological all powerful “gods” or “goddesses”. This methodology has historically been utilized to evoke fear and greed within the masses, and hence the great power and control of business men and Charleston’s of politics and religion . Fabricating all powerful punishing / rewarding “gods”, to back you up has always been a hugely successful homosapien strategy, giving tribe leaders, priests, kings, emperors, popes, bishops, dictators, politicians, preachers, missionaries, authors, apologists, prophets, apostles, the Vatican, churches,clergy, witch doctors, faith healers, etc, etc unprecedented control over and financial support from the masses. This has been a practice of homo sapiens since the beginning of recorded history. it seems like both now and throughout history, if for example a dictator wanna be, can convince a group of people: 1)That he alone is the exclusive agent of an all powerful temperamental demanding deity. 2)That hence only his words and writings are those of this god. 3)And that giving to and obeying only him, is ubiquitous with giving to and obeying this all powerful “deity/god”. 4)That the entire quality and quantity of their very lives, are entirely hanging on obedience to ALL of this agent of god’s requests and requirements...... If this method of religiosity based propaganda and dogma is used by any leader to indoctrinate and control their targeted victims, it evokes such all encompassing emotions on a spectrum from fear to greed within the victimized groups. And it subsequently keeps the regularly fleeced “flock” willingly structured within the leader’s confinement barriers. Then looking at the big picture historically, there have evolved thousands of branches of alleged gods and religions across the globe. When religious con- artists, prophets, writers, and religion promoters in general, take this scheme to the next level, the highest level. And they are able to furthermore convince the masses that this exact same obedience based reward/ punishment system applies not only here, but will also extend into their infinity based afterlives... with eternal pleasure VS eternal fiery torment being the end game. THAT strategy of ultimate eternal reward-threat issued, and greed-terror eliciting propaganda, has shown to be the most effective,at soliciting any degree of control and subservience of the masses, by human dictators that is desired. And the perpetrators underlie it all with edited and customized binded collections of many ancient arbitrary hand selected myth. Example of such contained in the Torah, Tanakh, Old Testament, New Testament, Holy Vedas, Quran, Book of Mormon, etc that were written by humans, and to this day twisted by humans into “supreme statements of gods as originally transmitted to agents of gods”.

[@jeanine219]

@@halebopp4747 You never answered my question re your god belief system.

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

"Biblical Germ Theory" is such a telling description! 😂

[@frankallen3634]

God does know how to count right? And somebody tell grasshoppers are safe since they have SIX legs like every other insect

[@garryferrington811]

Actually, in Goa I used an outside toilet and the poop was devoured by pigs. I think that's why the ancient Jews pooh-poohed pigs.

[@a.sanford8731]

Why did god make all these animals deliberately unclean and then tell us we can't eat them?

[@prouleau4440]

For the same reason he asks for forskin? It is so funny that Lord’s Prayer contains "and lead us not into temptation"... I like to add "like you always do, starting with Adam and Eve".

[@massey904]

You know we were never meant to eat animals right?

[@a.sanford8731]

@@massey904 says who?

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@a.sanford8731 maybe it’s to do with the fact that the increasing intelligence of our distant ancestors coincides with them eating more animal products, which provide all that energy needed for a bigger brain more efficiently than plants do. Religions don’t want you to become so intelligent that you will start questioning all their 🐂💩.

[@prouleau4440]

@@massey904 Then explain those rules your god has set.

[@puirYorick]

I'm finally all caught up with this series now.

[@JudyMenzel7]

Hahaha. Since when do "insects" Walk on only 4 legs.

[@WetDoggo]

So you don't believe what's written in the Bible? HOW DARE YOU NOT BLINDLY BELIEVE THE ALLMIGHTY STORYBOOK!! 😂

[@lnsflare1]

Praying mantises, maybe?

[@chrismassey7563]

Do you think when it was originally written in Hebrew the word was insects?

[@mariocoroa6800]

@@chrismassey7563 does the Old Testament make any sense, either it is in Hebrew, Aramaic or modern English? It definitely wins the prize for The Worst Story Ever Written. Period.

[@andrewholdaway813]

@@chrismassey7563 What's your point?

[@stylis666]

Woah, woah, woah! We're just gonna ignore that dead animals in a spring doesn't contaminate the spring according to god?

[@jeanine219]

There have been many thousands of gods in recorded human history, all of them invented by humans. Not surprisingly, these gods have tended to reflect the character traits of the people who invented them. For example when leaders of humans that were ignorant, rudimentary, cruel, and barbaric, invented OR selected a god(s), the god also tended to be ignorant, rudimentary, cruel, and barbaric. And in so doing, anything and everything, from mass blood ritualization of animals, torture, murder, mass genocide, mass looting, the taking of slaves including sex slaves, sacrificing first borns, sacrificing or murder of children as a test of loyalty, allowing the leader and priests to own everything and make all rules..... could be justified as the will of the god, as interpreted by the self ascribed "representatives" of that god. Yahweh, the chosen god of the bible, is just one of those thousands of invented gods, but without a doubt one of the most ignorant, sadistic, cruel, and barbaric among the recorded gods of mythology.

[@hitman5782]

Hey Jeanine, i loved your comment. And yes sure The god of the bible is arguably the most unpleasant person in all fantasy:jealous and proud of it;a petty,unjust,unforgiving control-freak;a vindictive,bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser;a misogynistic.homophobic,racist,filicidal,pestilential.megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic,capriciously malevolent bully."

[@robertmiller9735]

Yes, this happens even when it's ostensibly the same god: just compare Fred Rogers' Jesus to Fred Phelps'. Always, always, always a reflection of the believer.

[@tomsenior7405]

Excellently stated. Personally, I like Ancient Rome's way of dealing with gods. Select any god, from any Religion. One for Farming. One for Drinking. One for Eating. One for Birth and so forth. Worship them all and give them offerings whenever a blessing is needed. Much like Roman Catholics do to this Day with their Patron Saints. Desperate? Pray to Saint Jude. Need Inspiration? Pray to Saint Luke. Need a Prostitute? Pray to Saint Nicholas. I must say, any Religion that denies me my Full English Breakfast, can sod-off. No amount of Faith can stop me from enjoying my favourite Pub Grub; Scampi, Chips and Peas, with a few Pints of Lager. Going to the Sea-Side? god can Bugger-off, I'm having Winkles, Cockles and Mussels covered in Malt Vinegar. Lots of love to you Jeanine. Eat, Drink and be Merry for tomorrow we... probably get to do it all over again!

[@Demopans5990]

Somehow, YWH comes across as more dickish than even the Sumerian gods

[@Demopans5990]

@@tomsenior7405 Have you tried curdled pigs blood? It's a known ingredient in Chinese Cuisine, and it's pretty good in stir fry. Also a very good source of iron, and dirt cheap if you live close to an Chinatown

[@robertshaw4397]

I thought insects had 6 legs,not 4.

[@Malidictus]

Wow, this chapter is... something else. It seems to have given rise to so many talking points. Stuff like "rabbits chew cud" and "bats are birds," along with the ban on eating shellfish. Also... grasshoppers don't "walk on all fours. They have six legs. How have I not heard of this one before?

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

Your smart brain rejected what your neutral ears were hearing. We all need to have smart brains!

[@adrianblake8876]

Well, locusts have four legs and two "thighs" above their legs for a grand total of six. Although the "every insect walking on four" can't be excused as easily.

[@Chez114]

Any insect that walks on all fours are unclean. Got it... Since insects have six legs, all insects are clean?

[@MaxtheFinger]

Okay, Sunday service is over! Where we going to eat at? As long as I can get a shrimp cocktail and a bald eagle fricassee, I'm down! 🤤

[@MaxtheFinger]

@@harveywabbit9541 I don't care where it's from as long as I can deep fry that sucker! 🤤

[@Limpi43]

"... will be unclean till evening..." Soooo, everything is clean when it's dark outside?

[@georgefleming4956]

How the hell does the sun setting make things “clean”?

[@apostlepaul3363]

The day has ended.

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@apostlepaul3363 that doesn’t change the cleanliness of anything, unless you are stupid enough to think that dirt doesn’t exist anymore when you can’t see it. The average two year old understands that things don’t cease to exist when you can’t see them anymore.

[@visaman]

@@kellydalstok8900 unclean as not holy.

[@TBomb39]

@@apostlepaul3363 Hello Chris Massey

[@bladerunner3314]

Fins and scales, huh? Guess we now know what happened to Nessi

[@j.j.1064]

What if the arc of the covenant comes into contact with an "unclean bird" ( a bird passes by and lands on it.) No one is allowed to touch the bird or the arc to clean it lest they be struck dead as in the case of Uzzah The whole thing is so ridiculously ill conceived that the infinite possibilities of contamination render the thing completely lunatic.

[@jeanine219]

@@halebopp4747 you sound like the rambling Yahweh defending madman. But too primitive to be entertaining at any party.

[@j.j.1064]

@@halebopp4747 it couldn't protect itself from being loaded onto a horse and cart with faulty wheels so I guess the answer is no he couldn't. And didn't. The whole thing is fiction anyway!!

[@laurajarrell6187]

Friendly Atheist, Hemant, I like how you're auto clean by evening, lol! And it's amazing when it gets onto birthing rules. Also, did nobody notice that at first a few of the 'move on the ground' animals were ok, then none? That's the bible, 'holey and unclear'! 👍🥰 💞✌

[@jeanine219]

Thank you Hemant for leading us in another reading of the Christian Bible, and making us giggle, when we otherwise might cry or vomit. One more consecutive chapter in Leviticus, featuring this god's issuance of yet more rudimentary, petty, undecipherable rules, with little rhyme nor reason. On this particular occasion, he is dishing out more laws and regulations regarding eating specific insects, birds, and animals (strangely enough locust, katydids, crickets and grasshoppers were authorized by god for nibbling on).

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

"it says the rabbit... does not have a divided hoof" well, rabbits don't have hooves either, but the Bible is inerrant.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@harveywabbit9541 No, these are jewish dietary laws, the text definitely refers to real animals.

[@kewakl8891]

What if a cloven-hoofed non-cud-chewing animal touches a cloven-hoofed cud-chewing animal? What if a non-cloven-hoofed cud-chewing animal touches a cloven-hoofed cud-chewing animal?

[@TBomb39]

@@halebopp4747 The questions in this comment section highlight the ridiculous nature of these absurd and arbitrary rules. They deserve to be ridiculed. There's no such thing as a "clean" or "unclean" animal and this is all superstitious nonsense from a book full of superstitious nonsense. Some of these rules are harmful and would rob people of many delicious and nutritious food choices. And animal sacrifice to an imaginary god is barbaric and immoral.

[@righty-o3585]

You're not even going to address the fact that there are NO insects that walk on all fours? None, zero. Because insects have six legs. It's part of what makes them an insect. It's one of the main differences between insects and other bugs.

[@perspektive42]

Well, for example mantids have six legs but walk only on four. But then "*all* four" implies that they have not more than four legs. It's all a mess really...

[@righty-o3585]

@@perspektive42 OK, I forgot about those guys. But yes, when it says ALL fours, it implies that the four legs are all they have. My point is still valid 😜😁

[@apostlepaul3363]

Do not eat people because they are unclean however you can eat Christ because He is clean, you may eat His flesh and drink His blood.

[@apostlepaul3363]

@@harveywabbit9541 Go away

[@smochygrice465]

Eww, even man bits? I'll pass. Cheers

[@KeriRautenkranz]

Did he magically become "Clean" when he became a Zombie? Does this mean the Undead are "Clean"?

[@TBomb39]

Apostle Paul (Chris Massey, King Solomon)

[@boomanchu2]

Not only are bats birds, according to the christian bible; they are also "creeping things" like insects, because they swarm like locusts. Bats, god's multipurpose creature.

[@newyorkchamp9110]

Shrimp is great! I just had sesame shrimp and chicken fried rice

[@DissedRedEngie]

4:10 in some translation it's straight up "detestable" to eat crustaceans, octopus or whatever falls under the category of "not fish". Which is why some christians try to hand wave it off as eating shrimp isn't a sin. But there's one problem, it's the frickin all powerful god's opinion. It's not some food critic redditor telling you this. It's your ruler.

[@johnalanelson]

The definition of bird simply meant a vertebrate that flies, the modern taxonomical definition of a bird did not exist at the time of writing or translation. So, by the definition used at the time, a bat was a bird.

[@corozal987]

Which supports the idea of "who really said those words?". Cause an all knowing God should have known what it was and at the very least call it "flying rat" (lol).

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

I think that everyone can understand why ancient (well, older than ~200 years ago) humans, trying to explain their world, got some things wrong. But their research is what turned many of them into scientists and, hey, those folks are by & large good to have around. The problem for supporters of religions is they have to convince us (we who question) that their god knows _everything_ and is right about _everything._ (And for some, god/s love/s everyone except when he or they [mostly males] doesn't.) So humans grow and become wiser, but gods... can't grow and can't change or even become wiser.

[@johnalanelson]

@@corozal987 If you see the Bible as the inerrant word of God, and use the modern definition of a bird, then this would be a problem. But there is no reason to think that either the original language even the early translations were using the modern definition of a bird based on a classification system that wouldn't be invented until many centuries later.

[@oliefan3722]

A hyrax looks like a beavers cousin. They’re endangered and probably extinct. Just only saw on a quick YT search.

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 😮😂

[@reko3103]

Insects have 6 legs

[@yoursotruly]

No flying insects have four legs, therefore flying insects are basically all on the menu but how did God forget how many legs he put on insects? Didn't anyone think to count the legs on a nearby fly?

[@visaman]

The four legged insects went extinct from over eating.

[@Malidictus]

Also, a thought occurs... 11 chapters in, and we're still listing dry rules. Is it just me, or does Leviticus read like the Christian EULA?

[@esajaan]

In german an idiom for scolding someone is 'to read the levites' (die Leviten lesen). So maybe it is.

[@tiredofliars]

The word Leviticus translates as The Laws, so yeah, the whole book is like this.

[@Malidictus]

@@tiredofliars Right, that makes sense, I guess.

[@LM-jz9vh]

*Although the biblical narratives depict Yahweh as the sole creator god, lord of the universe, and god of the Israelites especially, initially he seems to have been Canaanite in origin and subordinate to the supreme god El.* Even the biblical Book of Deuteronomy stipulates that *“the Most High, El,* gave to the nations their inheritance” and that “Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob and his allotted heritage” (32:8-9). A passage like this reflects the early beliefs of the Canaanites and Israelites in polytheism or, more accurately, henotheism (the belief in many gods with a focus on a single supreme deity). *The claim that Israel always only acknowledged one god is a later belief cast back on the early days of Israel's development in Canaan.* *It is generally accepted in the modern day, however, that Yahweh originated in southern Canaan as a lesser god in the Canaanite pantheon* and the Shasu, as nomads, most likely acquired their worship of him during their time in the Levant. *Yahweh in the Canaanite Pantheon* The biblical narrative, however, is not as straightforward as it may seem as it also includes reference to the Canaanite god El whose name is directly referenced in `Israel' (He Who Struggles with God or He Who Perseveres with God). *El was the chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon and the god who, according to the Bible, gave Yahweh authority over the Israelites:* When the *Most High [El]* gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the Sons of God. For Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. (Deuteronomy 32:8-9, Masoretic Text). The Canaanites, like all ancient civilizations, worshipped many gods but chief among them was the sky-god El. *In this passage from Deuteronomy, El gives each of the gods authority over a segment of the people of earth and Yahweh is assigned to the Israelites who, in time, will make him their supreme and only deity; but it is clear he existed beforehand as a lesser Canaanite god.* Yahweh, according to Amzallag, was transformed from one god among many to the supreme deity by the Israelites in the Iron Age (c.1200-930 BCE) when iron replaced bronze and the copper smelters, whose craft was seen as a kind of transformative magic, lost their unique status. *In this new age, the Israelites in Canaan sought to distance themselves from their neighbors in order to consolidate political and military strength and so elevated Yahweh above El as the supreme being and claimed him as their own.* His association with the forge, and with imagery of fire, smoke, and smiting, worked as well in describing a god of storms and war and so Yahweh's character changed from a deity of transformation to one of conquest. *As the Israelites developed their community in Canaan, they sought to distance themselves from their neighbors and, as noted, elevated Yahweh above the traditional Canaanite supreme deity El.* They did not, however, embrace monotheism at this time. The Israelites remained a henotheistic people through the time of the Judges, which predates the rise of the monarchy, and throughout the time of the Kingdom of Israel (c.1080-c. 722). Google *"Yahweh - **WorldHistory.Org.**"* Watch Dr Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards and lecture 8 from 12:00 to 19:00 minutes. Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on. Watch *"The Origins of Yahweh"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica. Read the article linked in the description of the video. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Google *"Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites - Biblical Archaeology Society."* ("The study in Cell not only establishes that the ancient Israelites were ***descended from the Canaanites,*** but also establishes that the Canaanite people across the separate city-states of the southern Levant, and over a period of 1,500 years, were a genetically cohesive people.") Google *"The Canaanites weren't annihilated, they just 'moved' to Lebanon - The Times of Israel."* Google *"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopaedia."* (Read about Canaanite religion and El the chief or most high god of the Canaanite pantheon and the relationship of Canaanite religion to Israelite religion) Google *"Ancient Canaanite religion explained - **everything.explained.today**"* Google *"Archeology of the Hebrew Bible - NOVA - PBS"* ("Many scholars now think that most of the early Israelites *were originally Canaanites, displaced Canaanites,* displaced from the lowlands, from the river valleys, displaced geographically and then displaced ideologically.") Google *"Origins of Judaism explained - **everything.explained.today**"* ("According to the current academic historical view, the origins of Judaism lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, ***specifically evolving out of Ancient Canaanite polytheism,*** then co-existing with Babylonian religion, and syncretizing elements of Babylonian belief into the worship of Yahweh as reflected in the early prophetic books of the Hebrew Bible. (The Torah)". *Refer to the bibliography at the bottom of the page)* Google *"Canaanite languages - Britannica"* ("Group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including ***Hebrew,*** Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic.") Google *"Polytheism and Ancient Israel’s Canaanite Heritage. Part V - theyellowdart"* ("Of course, much of this [i.e., that Israel worshiped El and Asherah alongside YHWH] is really to be expected given that recent syntheses of the archaeological, cultural, and literary data pertaining to the emergence of the nation of Israel in the Levant show that most of the people who would eventually compose this group *were originally Canaanite.")* Google *"El - New World Encyclopedia"* (Refer to the section "El Outside the Bible" and the fact that the Israelites were originally *indigenous or displaced Canaanites)* Google *"El (deity) explained - **everything.explained.today**"* (Refer to section "Ugarit and the Levant" and the fact that the ancient Israelites were originally *indigenous or displaced Canaanites* and see how El, later conflated with Yahweh (Yahweh-El(ohim)) is fictional) Google *"The Gods and Goddesses of Canaan - Essay - The Metropolitan Museum of Art - Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History"* Google *"His Name is Allah, History of Truth"* (The fictional Abrahamic god El that the Israelite patriarchs worshipped is the same fictional god of the Muslims) Google *"Canaanite Phoenician Origin of the God of the Israelites."* Google *"The Phoenician God Resheph in the Bible - Is That in the Bible?"* Google *"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."* (Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh) Google *"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."* Google *"Married Deities: Asherah and Yahweh in Early Israelite Religion - Yahweh Elohim."* Google *"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"* Google *"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"* Google *"How the Jews Invented God and Made Him Great- Archaeology - Haaretz."* Google *"The Invention of God - Maclean's"* Google *"The Boundaries of the Nations - Yahweh Elohim."* Google *"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."* Google *"How Did the Bible’s Editors Conceal Evidence of Israelite Polytheism - Evolution of God by Robert Wright."* Google *"A Theologically Revised Text: Deuteronomy 32:8-9 - Ancient Hebrew Poetry."* Google *"Biblical Contradiction #3: Which God is the Creator of the Heavens and Earth: Yahweh or El?"* Google *"Biblical Contradiction #27. Are Yahweh and El the Same God or Not?"* Google *"Biblical Contradiction **#294**, **#295**, **#296**. Which god liberated Israel from Egypt: Yahweh or El?"* Google *"When Jehovah Was Not the God of the Old Testament. Part II - theyellowdart"* Google *"Mark Smith: "Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh's Ascendancy - Lehi's Library."* Google *"Quartz Hill School of Theology - B425 Ugarit and the Bible."* Google *"The Origins of Yahweh and the Revived Kenite Hypothesis - Is That in the Bible?"* Google *"Yahweh, god of metallurgy - Fewer Lacunae."* Google *"Polytheistic Roots of Israelite Religion - Fewer Lacunae."* Google *"Biblical Polytheism - Bob Seidensticker."* Google *"Combat Myth: The Curious Story of Yahweh and the Gods Who Preceded Him - Bob Seidensticker."* Google *"Religious Studies: El, Yahweh and the Development of Monotheism in Ancient Israel."* Google *"Decoupling YHWH and El - Daniel O. McClellan."* Google *"Yhwh, God of Edom - Daniel O. McClellan."* Google *"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III - theyellowdart"* Google *"Elyon Explained - **everything.explained.today**"* Google *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.* Google *"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"*

[@doctorpicardnononono7469]

nothing wrong with Locust, if you like crunchy food.

[@doctorpicardnononono7469]

@@harveywabbit9541 THERE'S BEER MADE OUT OF LOCUST?!

[@WetDoggo]

But what if someone picks up a dead pickle and or eats it? I NEED TO BE TOLD IF THAT'S OKAY NOW!! 😳😱

[@andystokes8702]

Do the same rules apply if instead of you intentionally touching these unclean creatures they touched you without your knowledge or consent? I'm thinking specifically about flies and mosquitos etc. I would imagine that in 1st century Palestine there was barely a day that would pass without some sort of critter landing on you. I'm guessing that the vast majority of the population would be unclean until evening almost permanently.

[@corwincaine21]

Is he not going to point out the fact it talks about "four legged" and "walks on all fours" for INSECTS? Things that rarely have less than 6 appendages, walking on "all fours"?

[@bodan1196]

"Did God think this through?" - Now there's a nice projection of your imagination. No?

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

I also liked "What the Hell, God?"

[@OnPlanetVenus]

It kind of makes sense that you wouldn’t want to touch an animal that just died because it might have had a disease, as opposed to an animal that was butchered

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

That likely makes sense to _us_ at this time (this century and the last, at least), because of germ theory and such, and because we can hope that industries that prepare food follow various rules (by FDA, EPA, etc.) to keep food safe. Way back, people didn't know about germs (why would god make them?) and just trusted that the food provider was a good person (and not planning to skip town after selling off the rotten food he/she had sold to everyone).

[@jeanine219]

@@debbys-abqnm4537 I love everyone of your very intelligent comments🥰

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

@@jeanine219 -- Thank you very much! I try to be helpful, maybe add support to interesting thoughts, that kind of thing. I've noticed your passion, I'm glad you are here, and I hope you are finding new friends or at the least people who think a lot like you and I do. 😻🤠

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

This god is unclean for you. Hail seitan, praise veganus crispus

[@mitchellminer9597]

I think somebody looked at what they happened to eat, and tried to make up rules to justify it. There are some folks who take this seriously, except they decided that certain fish have invisibly small scales. Also, some folks decided that capybaras, the largest rodent, are fish because they swim a lot. Literally "cafeteria theology".

[@flowingafterglow629]

I don't get the rules against shellfish. I'm not a huge crawdad fan, but I love lobster and scallops. My question: what were the occupations of the relatives of the people who wrote the rules? Let me guess: cattle farmers and fishermen?

[@mitchellminer9597]

@@flowingafterglow629 I read somewhere that pigs were forbidden because they basically eat what humans eat, and therefore pigs were depriving children of food. But you make me think that anyone could keep a piglet and feed it scraps, which would be depriving cowboys and shepherds of jobs.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

If capybaras are fish then so are the hippos and ducks. 😂

[@metiusabt2581]

Insects (all!) have 6 legs not four! God's inspiration skills aren't working very well!

[@bakert7000]

I grew up in the Seventh-day Adventist Church. This chapter is part of the church doctrine. In order to be baptized you must say you won’t smoke, drink, do drugs or eat unclean meat. They have 27 other church doctrines too. I was looking forward to the friendly atheist take on this chapter.

[@bakert7000]

The Adventist’s are just concerned with the eating part and the rest of Leviticus is not important. They like to pick and choose verses like the other churches.

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 yes, surprising that yahweh did not shout out dozens of rules ad infinitum, pertaining to all of the “ins and outs” of sex?

[@TheEyez187]

You must not eat these animals... but I have free-will and want to... well you can, but I'll punish you for it... but then it's your will not my free will... yeah but no but yeah, come on you can still have slaves, just no shellfish!!

[@tqnohe]

Clearly all insects with six legs, not to mention other arthropods with eight or more legs, are clean.

[@foppishdilletaunt9911]

Being a life-long atheist of Jewish descent I think that my lust for swineflesch and the bodies of crustacea is some form of genetic hunger. I have chewed the toasted grasshopper and called it good plus in Thailand, which is the place of the most wonderful food humans have devised, such flying insects are given the whimsical colloquial name of “sky prawns,” which makes the eating all the more fun.

[@wickedguppy3715]

Most insects have six legs. Are they ok?

[@WetDoggo]

The reason for "unclean" is that it doesn't eat cud and has divided hoofs? So... Humans are unclean as well... STOP TOUCHING YOURSELF THEN 😂👌

[@jeanine219]

😂👣

[@WetDoggo]

@@jeanine219 do you find that funny? God has given those words for a good reason!! ... Which is... Well don't question God 🤔😂 (this is just a joke)

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

God must use that excuse -- humans are "unclean" -- to justify how many humans (adults and children, and animals, birds, fish, reptiles, etc.) he has murdered (Friendly Atheist made a video about that). Also since so far I haven't seen a clear definition of "unclean", it seems god needs no reason at all to rain terror and death on "his" creation. He's a narcissist ("worship me") + psychopath ("or I'll kill you and all your relatives. You are not allowed to hurt my feelings!")

[@jeanine219]

@@debbys-abqnm4537 Yahweh is a myth god whose commands and actions represent those of torture, mass murder, rape, looting, and sadism.....eternal torture being his coup de gras.

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

@@jeanine219 -- Agreed! I'm glad you are following this channel as you will find many people who agree with you (and occasionally a very few who think insulting us will scare us into worshiping the rapist skydaddy).

[@Sonic_Shroom]

I don't know of any insects with only four legs