Everything you Need to Know for BFD as a Rogue in SoD WoW

🥷Stealth into Blackfathom Deeps the New Season of Discovery Raid with Confidence 🥷
In this video, we delve into a comprehensive guide for Rogues undertaking the Blackfathom Deeps raid during the Season of Discovery in World of Warcraft Classic. The Season of Discovery brings forth new challenges, and understanding the intricacies of this raid is essential for success.
Throughout the guide, we examine each boss encounter within Blackfathom Deeps, offering strategic insights and practical tips to assist Rogues in navigating the complexities of the raid. By providing a detailed overview of what to expect from each boss, we aim to empower players with the knowledge necessary to face the trials presented in the Season of Discovery.
As the World of Warcraft Classic community embarks on this new season, it becomes imperative to be well-versed in the raid content. Whether you are a veteran or a newcomer to the classic realms, this guide is designed to enhance your preparation and performance in Blackfathom Deeps.
Discover the nuanced tactics required for success and equip yourself with the information crucial for a seamless raid experience. Your journey through the depths of WoW Classic awaits, and with this guide, you can approach it with the confidence of a well-prepared Rogue.
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[@PalmBee]

THANKS KIPZO!!!!!

[@2dollarbilly]

You’re killing it with the rogue SoD content man. Informative, insightful, and straight to the point. Please keep it up!

[@H1LTO]

Thanks, bruv. Shoutout to all my rogues out there

[@FrappuccinoMe]

Thanks man, really appreciate this video. Liked and subbed.

[@jongaea]

thanks, easy and comprehendable

[@Andrew_Shamblin]

very comprehensive, much guide!

[@Jackothy]

Thanks for the guide, I watched it and then did single digit parses on every boss. Didn’t die though

[@mikepeterson4061]

You are my rogue hero. ty sir

[@martinuberreiter2234]

hey man, first of all great guide, very informative! Just want to ask which Addon or Weakaura your using for the combo points. And which one is the one for Buff, Crit etc.?

[@Kippzo]

I have it linked in my discord, it's someone else's weakaura I messed with to look like that.

[@BandicootLikeMMO]

i have been using just backstab build with two daggers for some bosses where i need to face some adds then i use mutilate, or a off-hand sword. would you say saber is better?

[@george6ever]

Nice and fast guide!!! What r ur auras?

[@Lander1023]

Can i have link to that weakaura you have to show energy, combo points and melee swing ? Been looking something siple as that o/ good guide mate!

[@Ceseleone]

Asked for it too

[@ReelBishop]

what are you using for wep enchants / poisons with the new runes?

[@ImWickedsouls]

can you do a video on ur rotation would appreciate it thanks

[@DaHamma77]

thank you! I would love to see a parse guide, because on this level i am struggeling with energy and i am not sure about the ration betweenn SnD and Rupture for max dmg output.

[@ryanvance1767]

It will be weapons dependent on what the rotation will be, along with how long the fights will be for you.

[@dankdagod]

Go imp. SnD instead of Lethality like he suggests in this vid. It's more fun and more dps. Also you should be running Deadly Brew and Envenom alongside Saber Slash so you use Envenom as your main finisher instead of Rupture.

[@donsentoz]

Whats the addon that informs the group that u kick?

[@JesusIsCometh]

lovely thank you kippzo

[@karlokonto5890]

whats the singletarget rota? slash 5x - attackspeed - slash 5x - env. ?

[@nicholaswalters1975]

Great guide. Because of deadly brew giving gives instant poison procs, does that mean you can use a sharpening stone in the oh?

[@austinstar1100]

Yeah

[@Cutimoooooooo]

Sharpening stone on the off hand and nothing on main, right?

[@dannymoontattoos]

@@Cutimoooooooowait so I don’t need to be applying poisons for pve ?

[@Cutimoooooooo]

@@dannymoontattoos seems like it, yes…

[@Xeryph_]

Nice!

[@motzi12]

why would i play rupture instead of slice and dice ? i max dmg every boss with slice and dice ( Expect first one )

[@Petrosmurf9]

Dude I love this. I’m still lvl 22, need to get the poison bis rune. Then I’m rdy to slay

[@cotz5461]

What’s the link or proper Addons for your SCT?

[@tobiasstrandberg1755]

Can you link weakaura for that swingtimer + energy tick with combo bar?

[@Stimbim]

look at that professional player - has 6 keybinds for saber slash, dedication!

[@Spirosbotos]

Yeah let’s memorise an entire rotation that will change every meta because blizzard does “tuning” every patch

[@dannymoontattoos]

@@Spirosbotoswhy do pro players do this? I’ve played since WoD and I don’t know still. I understand having like multiple macros for stuff that helps the team but saber slash??

[@Spirosbotos]

@@dannymoontattoos maybe in case they miss a key always have access to main ability from different spots on the board

[@rawrizord]

Lmfao ​@@Spirosbotos

[@Adrenalinefiend22]

I have both of those daggers meteor shard & chipped bite, what build and rotation do you recommend? Thank you ( currently using the saber build you recommended last video)

[@karlor69]

If you want to try Mutilate, swap the points from Lethality (Assassination tree) and Improved Sinister Strike (Combat Tree) and put them into 5/5 Opportunity (Subtlety tree) since Mutilate benefits from backstab buffs. I’m not sure if it’s more damage than Saber Slash, but I was having fun with it.

[@JP-kz4uf]

Want to know the same tbh :)

[@frankrossi3524]

@@karlor69 Do we know if going down into imp backstab isn't better than sin talents?

[@Fropxy]

thx for video is it living flame server?

[@salty9832]

question when you kicking is it you kick when ever it's up ?

[@jaydickinson1504]

Anyone help with my question? So you don’t use Sinister Strike to get to 5 combat points but use Saber Slash over and over? Is that best DPs right now? Thanks

[@artieonyoutube]

That's right. Saber slash is superior

[@ArcadianGeneral]

but why does he put 2 points in sinister stike talent? @@artieonyoutube

[@scourgev]

@@ArcadianGeneral it reduces saber slash cost too

[@grogu3000]

if you read the tooltip for saber slash it says that it also benefits from any talents etc that effect sinister strike@@ArcadianGeneral

[@dannymoontattoos]

@@scourgevit makes saber slash stronger

[@MightBeCow]

Is it doable with blackened defias set?

[@goflux]

What runes do you run for this? Obviously Saber Slash and I assume Deadly Brew, but what about the legs slot?

[@kieferyelich2387]

Envenom

[@Justin-ux2ir]

What addon or use to see Bis/gear

[@martinlooter7264]

good vid algo pump

[@tytygreenrich9407]

Ty

[@ndb1aydc]

Are hunters that op doing 50 more dps than rogues on boss fights ?

[@theoriginalmre]

Hey why is no one talking about how you can't have multiple Saber Slash dots on the same target? I can't figure out if it's a bug or an intended mechanic, but only 1 rogue gets to Saber Slash debuff the target per group, and the other rogues just refresh the existing Saber Slash whenever they hit it, so 1 rogue gets all the dps. I think it's like the Mage's ignite mechanic.

[@Rellyrell420]

They fixed it today

[@ellescer]

They fixed rogue and nerfed hunter

[@user-ub8lo1zh7n]

yea they fixed

[@ndb1aydc]

Also what chest/leg rune?

[@Dlxtrv9]

Lol that pro group was STACKED

[@Lander1023]

And do you use any poisons on your weapons ? Instant before pull and after that go without or allthe time without that nasty 40stacks ?

[@dankdagod]

Use Blackfathom Sharpening Stone with the Deadly Brew rune since you need the hit and DB gives you poison procs.

[@Lander1023]

@@dankdagod on both weapons ? Does IT Stack wirh WF ? Im playing alliance

[@dankdagod]

@@Lander1023 Doesn’t stack with WF so only on off-hand.

[@Lander1023]

@@dankdagod thank you so much 👌

[@jakefoltz1279]

If you have Druid you don’t use anything on main hand and you use bfd sharpening stone on OH?

[@ryanvance1767]

That mostly depends on the MH damage the rouge is using. If it's a weak MH damage weapon, a Sharping stone will most likely out-damage the random druid WF proc.

[@scrummpybear]

Thanks this made me not look a twat in my first run!

[@calebhoffman6368]

What ui are you using??

[@pickupsticks3942]

Simon updated that spec btw, we drop the 3 points in lethality for 3 points in imp slice n dice. As a PvE andy i like this

[@gabes.1882]

Does that guy have a channel?

[@Astix213]

simonizeshow@@gabes.1882

[@2dollarbilly]

@@gabes.1882simonizeshow

[@elektrotwerk]

Any tipps about the Addons?

[@ryanvance1767]

Weak Auras, bartender, and Shadow Unit Frames. You can use DBM to watch when shadow boss moves are off CD to manage energy better.

[@jaydickinson1504]

Can anybody explain if Eviscerate or Rupture is better to use my combo points on? Thank you

[@Rumbo99]

Look at the numbers, rupture does more damage but takes time to get the full dmg. Eviscerate is instant but less dmg

[@dankdagod]

Your finisher prio should be SnD>Envenom>>>Rupture. You won’t ever have the points to go beyond Envenom though.

[@dannymoontattoos]

Don’t use evis at all tbh we don’t have the capability and If you did get a chance to use it that means you lost damage not using saber enough

[@cookie_monsteryo]

With deadly brew do you only put poison on your off hand?

[@InzaneCat]

you don't poison your mh because you want windfury. Deadly brew will work though

[@Cutimoooooooo]

But I don’t think you even put poison on the off hand, people say u just use sharpening stone on it

[@InzaneCat]

Yeah, I use Blackfathom Sharpening Stone:)@@Cutimoooooooo

[@silencegaming3227]

I cant wait to start tanking bfd, i am gonna try my best to get the runes before 25 or close to 25 before i do bfd

[@LarsVilksIsAwesome]

Rogues can't tank. They're a niche boss tank and that's about it and underwhelming at that.

[@silencegaming3227]

@@LarsVilksIsAwesome someone sounds like a quitter

[@moodfm5673]

@@silencegaming3227 i mean 100% of pug groups that advertise in chat are super cringey retail slugs that want logs and gear score so if you not running your own guild good luck trying to get anybody to let you try to tank as a rogue. neckbeards just want to play this the same way they did when they were teenagers. which is the vast majority of players.

[@silencegaming3227]

@@moodfm5673 I saw a pug looking at logs and gear score, lmao

[@aramgarabedian1452]

Why not imp SnD over Murder? Just wondering

[@Shuvvel]

why not stinging viper instead of wingblade?

[@brandonstevens300]

Guide really helped even though I still went mutilate with all greens lol.

[@eatxmyxcake4642]

Where does Envenom fall into the rotation?

[@ryanvance1767]

It doesn't. We probably wont be using it till shadow craft

[@dankdagod]

@@ryanvance1767This is not true bruh. Envenom should be your main finisher after SnD. With the Deadly Brew talent ofc

[@ellescer]

You play with mirlol?

[@7omen7]

first boss is immune to bleed as well so just use sinister strike instead of saber strike - small dps boost :)

[@ZachrisPensar]

Isn’t it even better to use Slaughter from the shadows and spam Back Stabs and slice n dice?

[@chiefwiggum1196]

yes@@ZachrisPensar

[@flipdiesel9652]

Big sub to you. That percentage was fucked up of people watching but not being subbed

[@rev8545]

So do you only use Saber Slash for CP generation? If so why? Doesn't Sinister strike do a little bit more damage? Thanks for the vid btw!

[@mckenne1]

if theres another rogue in ur group using saber slash than use anything else but if your the only eogue just spam saber slash to kee p the dot up

[@rev8545]

@@mckenne1 But don't you Use it 3x to keep dot up then swap to sinister strike into Slice and dice / rupture and just spam it once here and there to keep it up, right?

[@mckenne1]

energy regen is too slow to risk letting the dot fall@@rev8545

[@L2newbie]

​​@@rev8545after 3 stacks, additional saber strikes refresh the duration of the 3 stacks. There's really no need to use Sinister Strike

[@rev8545]

@@L2newbie but sinister strike does more damage then saber slash, so after you get 3 stacks you use sinister strike again and when your stacks are about to fall of you use saber slash again. So I don’t see the point of only using saber slash?

[@ArcadianGeneral]

Quesion, if thats the best talent build for BFD and doing damage, if we're saber striking and rupturing as a rotation why put 2 points in sinister strike?

[@EnrickRogue]

The Saber Slash rune/ability says in the tooltip that it "benefits from all talents pertaining to Sinister Strike" so Saber Slash gets the reduced energy cost from the talent as well!

[@gabrieldecastro5030]

Slice and dice talent is better than the 2% more damage, no?

[@dankdagod]

Yeah you drop Lethality to pick up both imp SnD and Murder

[@Staysa001]

rupture over slice and dice?

[@fro0d]

Why do you rupture? Isn't rank 4 evisc way better than rank 1 rupture?

[@ryanvance1767]

Depending on Atk Power, Rupture will outdo Evisc. Not to mention, you won't deal with Low and high hits when it comes to rupture. However, I was in here with 2 swords using SnD, and most of my damage came from poisons.

[@frankrossi3524]

What about other 2 runes?

[@L2newbie]

Saber strike, deadly brew and envenom

[@346ask]

What is pre-raid gear for rogues?

[@pedepro]

no slice n dice?

[@dylanlewis7831]

Damn it's better dps to not even use SnD or envenom?

[@ryanvance1767]

With the energy us spending energy on kicks I don't see Enevenom fitting. Unless the bonuse applied hit on poisons will change dps. If so, a 1-2 CP would be enough.

[@kurdishdonkey]

another kippzo video, time to put it on 0.75 speed

[@koloignanov3091]

do i prio snd or rupture?

[@goestheboom5211]

Rupture slice and dice isn't very good at lvl 25

[@koloignanov3091]

@@goestheboom5211 makes sense, thanks

[@Rellyrell420]

Slice and dice don’t listen to him ^

[@tristancaldalt2942]

@@Rellyrell420 Rupture don't listen to him ^ (only if u have a druid applying mangle tho)

[@Rellyrell420]

@@tristancaldalt2942 slice and dice has ALWAYS been prio for rogues. Period.

[@FinallyDivorced]

Do you use instant poison on both weapons?

[@poddcasetv]

Nah u have to keep mh empty and offhand u use sharpening Stones or instant

[@MrJeden]

Why empty on Main hand? And why instant on oh?

[@L2newbie]

​@@MrJedenif there's a shaman or feral druid in your party, you need the main hand to be empty to get the windfury buff. Off hand you just want more damage so instant poison or sharpening stones of you have that

[@MrJeden]

@@L2newbie cool. And if i have poison Rune ?

[@L2newbie]

@@MrJeden what do you mean? Are you referring to deadly brew? From what I understand, as long as you have that equipped, if you don't apply any poison to your weapon, it'll automatically default to ,"this weapon has instant poison applied" so whenever that goes off, deadly poison will get applied. You'll still get windfury though. Go try it out on some mobs.

[@SnuggleLabes]

I out dmg every saber build with mutilate idk why its so popular

[@ryanvance1767]

It's time-dependent. If the fights are short, Mutilate build will out DPS Saber. For Pre-Bis, it is MH Mace/Sword and OH Dagger. Ouu MH Daggers are meh unless you find Assassans blade.

[@SnuggleLabes]

@@ryanvance1767 I do have assassins I got it 3rd day

[@udalix]

How are so many people confused on why you take sinister strike talents when using saber slash? Do you read the tooltips? "No bro I just slot in all my abilities and smash my keys on cooldown."

[@likeonsundayevening4344]

kick macro ?

[@sirDAMO57]

Why put talents in improv sinister stike when all you use is sabre slash?

[@Martell3003]

Saber Slash benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.

[@sirDAMO57]

Ah thank you!@@Martell3003

[@dannymoontattoos]

@@sirDAMO57it says that on the spell lol 😂

[@sirDAMO57]

Yeah didnt have the rune at the time when i said that :P@@dannymoontattoos

[@Stoic1v9]

got u in my feed and search results multiple times for information and interests i had regarding SoD. think its time u get a sub from me, keep up the hard work . looking forward for more SoD content! especially for my rogue :)

[@thepacha28]

Can u share ur WA ?

[@user-hw2kj8ko4f]

can i have you WA?

[@Motokids13]

Top rogues dont use rupture or those talents lol

[@rawrizord]

No imp snd? Kek

[@bofeity]

Crazy how bad these strats were

[@joec3160]

Why does he think you will wipe so many times. It’s easy.

[@tylersnyder5913]

This guy sounds like a male night elf.

[@xbriskx]

Rupture sucks, SnD is meta.

[@predsr5082]

Hey do you have a import or link to the addons you use? mostly intrested in the stats at the bottom and whatever scrolling combat text being used

[@predsr5082]

I found on Discord ty :)