Everything you wanted to know about the Bung/Indicator for Fly Fishing but were afraid to ask! LIVE

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0:00:00 Introduction
0:02:26 Olive Diawl Bach
0:17:35 Pros & Cons
0:24:55 Andy's Buzzer
0:36:02 Leader Length and Set Up
0:41:10 Weighted Orange Blob
0:46:40 After burner Questions and Farewell
The bung or indicator fishing splits the fly fishing community like nothing else. Personally I don't see it as any less valuable than any other method that I use to fly fish.
In this video I want to leave the controversy at the door. As well as show you a few fly patterns that I like to use under the bung I want to explain how I fish it. There will be diagrams on the Pros and Cons of the method as well as detailed explanations for leader length.
In-between I will attempt to answer some questions from the live audience. I hope that this gives you a little different perspective on the method. If not let me know why you don't think its fly fishing in the comments below.

[@neilandrew961]

Great video today sir was out fishing yesterday had quite a few fish on damsel then water went pretty dead for everyone put on the bung got 9 fish in about 1 hour so when one method stops working its up to angler to find out what is working

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Thats the ticket Neil.

[@lindsayiflyfish]

@Son Off A Witch Totally agree and a great point.

[@leemowers9395]

Two nice patterns, thanks Lindsay, I laughed at you not finding your super glue and accusing the kids.

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Don't mention the kids pal they are not in my good books today!

[@leemowers9395]

@@lindsayiflyfish so, which of the kids glued, which of the other kids to the wall......

[@lindsayiflyfish]

@@leemowers9395 After yesterday pal they will both be getting glued to the garden wall!

[@michaelshaw8370]

It’s him again sorry. With the dread Welsh devil. The use of a rubber/eraser to slim it down is perfect for when the trout are focused on buzzers. If they are taking Corixa or snails then the fluffy fatter version comes into play.

[@nicolelewis1828]

LOL! I was introduced to the Bung by Ivo Balinov and Ciprian Rafan who are two competitive fly fishers based in Montreal, Quebec. They also taught me how to fish the drogue! Love it!

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Very cool! Once you have fished on the drift its hard to go back.

[@nicolelewis1828]

@@lindsayiflyfish LOL!

[@coreycameron439]

Great video! I know some don’t like the bung however I used it for my first year or so and it really helped my understand water depth, what dept fish are at in certain conditions etc. It’s really useful for a beginner and now I confidently pick up a few fish each session without it after 18 months of fly fishing. They 100% have their uses :)

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Great to hear! Its just another weapon in the arsenal you have to fish to the conditions.

[@mikelundrigan2285]

Interesting....I make my “ bungs” in a similar matter using a wine cork, but expose more hook by using a longer shank, wide gape hook. I needle stretch floss legs sideways through the body, add a tail in a similar manner and in effect have a mini bass type bug (North American). I spray paint the sealed cork body with flor. orange paint and then coat it with clear varnish etc.... so not dissimilar result! I started doing this after seeing trout would sometimes strike my float indicator about 15 or 20 years ago! Your setup charts are excellent and useful guides. And those patterns will be tied and tried here on the east coast of Canada! Tight lines, stay safe!

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Thanks Mike, I really want to give your method a go best get a decent bottle of wine in ;-)

[@ianspicer1529]

Brilliant presentation; full of good ideas & progressive thinking. Well done indeed.

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Thank you, very kind.

[@brianfeeney9493]

Thanks for Kickin’ - Off Daylight Savings Time Lindsay !!!!! Happy New Week 🌟🎣✨

[@lindsayiflyfish]

You are so welcome!

[@brianfeeney9493]

Keep the Fabulous Content comin’ in 2021 Lindsay ☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️

[@lindsayiflyfish]

@@brianfeeney9493 Will do my best pal.

[@65Visser]

Lidsay you have givven me a top idea for a new collour for a Diawl Bach. Thanks

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Welcome 👍

[@michaelshaw8370]

The Bung is just an option an effective tool. Yes a greased floating line achieves a much slower equivalent. With an additional disadvantage of any adjustment of the depth you present the fly is only achieved by a total replacement of the entire leader. So even more lost fishing time. Any time that your flies are not in the depth range needed is time and fish lost forever

[@Madmicksoutdooractivities]

Enjoyed that mate was good crac and very interesting

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Cheers Mick.

[@jbatina]

Well done video, I live in the Southwestern United States. I grew up fishing sinking and intermediate lines casting and retrieving nymphs and buggers but started fishing an indicator a few years back. I still prefer to vast and retrieve, but whatever is taking fish is the way to go. I am always looking to improve my fishing and have really been intrigued by the methods and flies used in the UK and your channel has been very helpful and informative. I look forward to each new video .

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Thanks John, thats vey much appreciated.

[@jbatina]

@@lindsayiflyfish I want to try the washing line method but we are only allowed two flies in my state, just trying to figure out how because I want to use the two flies as droppers. Maybe your bung with the hook cut off for the point

[@lindsayiflyfish]

@@jbatina Thats exactly how to do it pal.

[@nicolelewis1828]

I love my cautery tool for cleaning up some of those difficult to cut bits when I've finished the fly.

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Got one, burnt my fingers, straight in a drawer never to be seen again....lol.

[@nicolelewis1828]

@@lindsayiflyfish LOL! Dude, you're not supposed to touch the tip! LOL!

[@grahamlonergan8964]

Love your videos - thank you

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Many thanks Graham and thank you for watching 👍

[@seankelly3997]

Great video , and great idea with the bung, so many times trout have come up and attacked my bung instead of the fly, so makes sense to put a hook in it👍

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@grahamlonergan8964]

great video

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Thanks Graham 👍

[@jimflynn466]

Hi Lindsay, I tie a klinkhammer style fly on a size 8 grub hook, using Loon Strike as the wing, the fluorescent material really shows up, I tie my cast to the bend of the indicator. I get the odd fish taking the indicator especially during mayfly hatches, thanks for this informative session. Regards Jimf

[@lindsayiflyfish]

I am the same way Jim, prefer it off the bend.

[@luizaugustomaiadeoliveira2244]

congratulation.👏👏👏

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Many many thanks

[@allanstewart6894]

I've made a killing with diawl bachs using yellow owl with large hackle as my bung

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Nice one pal.

[@grahamkay8711]

Hi great video I am originally from the uk but now I live in Canada we use strike indicators all the time because some fish in the spring and fall will not take the fly if it’s moving (lake fishing) how ever river fishing it’s nice to set the depth ,but I use a strike indicator that is called a “lock on “and you can move it up and down your leader which is nice when fishing with leaches

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Thanks for the info!

[@seanbenstead7650]

Great video as always I fish Albury estate quite a bit as it's only 30 minutes from home great fishery

[@lindsayiflyfish]

It is a great place, very picturesque and quality fish.

[@seanbenstead7650]

@@lindsayiflyfish you should try coltsford mill fishery stunning place to fish

[@lindsayiflyfish]

@@seanbenstead7650 Where is that?

[@deansimpson3231]

In USA many people fish with an indicator, although I am sure some are not in favor of the method

[@lindsayiflyfish]

It divides a nation Dean, I just see it as another method.

[@deansimpson3231]

@@lindsayiflyfish Recently I have tried to learn Euro nymphing, or tight line nymphing, or one of the dozen other names it has so I haven’t been fishing indicators as much, but in certain spots on streams and rivers with slow deep pools I find it is the most productive method! I must say may family name Simpson has been traced back to the east coast of Scotland, somewhere north of Edinburgh, is it possible we are distant relatives?

[@deansimpson3231]

@@lindsayiflyfish I forgot to mention, your videos are great, I really enjoy watching. By the way if you are curious I live in central Pennsylvania in an area with great spring creeks and we can fish year round even now when the freestone streams are frozen over.

[@brianinsole9911]

You say you make your own bungs ? Can we have a video showing us please . In particular the one Tango In this video . Thank you for yet another great helpful video . B

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Hi Brian, It is a pain making them but I will try to do a video in the winter months. There is not much tying involved.

[@150titanjpoficial]

Top sensacional!!!❤

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Thanks 👍

[@stephentyreman5209]

Hi just watched your washing line method ,any chance you could demo the tieing of the bung like on screen well done steve x

[@lindsayiflyfish]

I will try Steve but it's more a modelling exercise than a fly tying technique.

[@drumznfishes]

I would be the first to use an indicator like this in my area, I think..I wish I tied!

[@lindsayiflyfish]

It certainly has its place Ed.

[@pbgd3]

Problem is here in the states bung is usually only used in less than appropriate ways. Unless you are maybe a welder and have reason to weld threaded bung holes onto pipe we dont use the word bung in that way. We would call it a stopper or a plug or a cork but never a bung. Divided by common language.

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Hi Pal, yes the language does not always translate even though its English. Thats why I try and mention indicator as much as possible.

[@markkelly4983]

Hi Could you please let me know if you don’t mind what are the different times of year that the bung can be used effectively? I mainly get a chance to fish fish stocked reservoirs from may/ June onwards. Does bung fishing usually have to be static and can more or less any type of fly Be used with it including dry fly? Great very well presented and narrated videos. Many thanks Mark from Bonnie Scotland . Cheers👍

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Hi Mark, the bung can be effective any time of year. Although designed to fish flies and you can put anything under the bung statically. It works just as well with some movement. I personally would not use it for dry flies.

[@derekcunningham9993]

No difference to using something like the chernobyl ant then a dropper or 2. The set up with the bung on the point, reminds me of my early fishing days, before getting into flyfishing. Where we would use 3 flys on droppers and a bubble float on the end, cast out on a spinning rod and slow retrieve back. My apprenticeship days, I like to call it

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Everyone does not start as an expert and if you are starting out it really help to catch some fish. Nobody had heard of the bung when I started and my first three trip proved fruitless.

[@derekcunningham9993]

Always learning. Thats what makes it fun🤙🤙

[@mikelundrigan2285]

Very common here to use a piece of wooden broom stick with an eyebolt screwed into it instead of a bubble! This is used to achieve great distance with a spinning rod! My brother has fished this way for over thirty years and has decent success with it!

[@chrisfraser6777]

Great video what kind of Fritz do you use on your blog cheers mate

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Chris, I use FNF Jelly Fritz in various colours.

[@chrisfraser6777]

@@lindsayiflyfish cheers for getting back to me

[@j.glenwelker5249]

Can you show how to make the bung? I’ve tried to find some for sale but I can’t find any.

[@lindsayiflyfish]

I will try and do a video pal, but it takes a long time and so bear with me on that one.

[@kerrypitt9789]

Lindsay, i figure that you folks called it a "Bung," to keep people from asking for it. Like it will keep you from yelling across the water "Hey Lindsay! Could you kindly pass me a Bung?? 😁 or like the large Salmon fly: the TFU! So called because you dont want your friends yelling "Hey Lindsay! Throw me a Thing from uranus 😂 ill send you one si hou never have to ask! 😁

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Kerry I have never heard of the TFU but it has made me smile.....lol.

[@stephenpattinson5376]

how did you get the satsuma to stay on the hook !!!

[@lindsayiflyfish]

lol.... Super glue pal. Then several coats of varnish.

[@davidlee8999]

I fish a foam beetle with a small buzzer 2-3 foot below which is no different than an indicator both flies take fish just not as visible

[@lindsayiflyfish]

David, I sometimes fish a black indicator in certain lights you can see it better.

[@davidlee8999]

@@lindsayiflyfish me to

[@ralphanderson2167]

What is the closest you would hang a fly under a bung indicator ? I have hung a fly about 3 feet below . Will trout shy away if the fly gets too close to the bung indicator ? Or are they not bothered ?

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Hi Ralf, on a Small Stillwater I have hung flies a foot under the bung and still caught well. Just depends on how they want it on the day.

[@ralphanderson2167]

I have always wanted to know how close was to close. Thank You

[@nicolelewis1828]

Lindsay what are the factors in good bung design?

[@lindsayiflyfish]

I think that it has to be aero dynamic to a certain extent, I have fished with other styles of bung and after a while the line tangles... badly. I find a rugby ball shaped one to be best.

[@nicolelewis1828]

@@lindsayiflyfish Love it! Thanks!

[@j.glenwelker5249]

Where. An you buy the bung shown?

[@lindsayiflyfish]

You have to make them pal, its fairly easy just time consuming. There are manufactured ones you can buy.

[@fireblaster9961]

What do you seal it with again

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Varnish or UV resin both work fine.

[@nicksparkes1378]

Lindsay may i ask what make of magnifier you are using

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Nick I did a review on them here kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6fZoWlvjceemrM

[@nicksparkes1378]

@@lindsayiflyfish thanks mate

[@markjones4031]

Have you ever considered making a KZbin talking to competitors/ex-competition anglers about techniques and tips Sure it would be well received

[@lindsayiflyfish]

I have considered a sort of how to compete at the highest level, inside the team sort of thing but not quite worked out the details yet.

[@bobclark4706]

hi would a FAB work as well

[@lindsayiflyfish]

As a bung?

[@derickhannant6947]

Seriously comparing tying a fishing fly to Brexit with all of the potential problems in the NI protocol coming from this decision. Lyndsay, maybe a unequal comparison? Good tying however. Derick.

[@lindsayiflyfish]

lol, its just what came to mind at the time.

[@derickhannant6947]

@@lindsayiflyfish lol…

[@TheSqueak11]

What fluorocarbon you us and lb

[@lindsayiflyfish]

To the bung I use 10lb Wychood fluro because I don’t want to lose it. The for the flies below I use different breaking strains depending on where I am fishing anywhere between 8lb and 4lb Wychwood Fluro.

[@_victimclasspreycitizen]

bung

[@shawnbarry3893]

Looks like an orange Skittle with eyes

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Would you eat it though Shawn ...... lol.

[@doublejab1714]

Thats the name of it now

[@peterlloyd3279]

For those of us in Wales please learn to pronounce ‘diawl’ - its not ‘dial’ its pronounced ‘deeawl’ but say it quickly

[@lindsayiflyfish]

I’ll try my best Peter, but no promises😉

[@OdinsChosen208]

people in america dont care and use it all the same as any other method

[@lindsayiflyfish]

Fair play I don’t have an issue with it. We can be a bit antiquated in our ways here.

[@OdinsChosen208]

@@lindsayiflyfish im a huge midger so I love all your guys techniques in the uk compared to the one or two here in the usa

[@michaelshaw8370]

The so called purists would have us all using a single small dry Greenwell’s Glory. Any ethical and legal method if it works? Then you should be able to use it. Pleasure fishing and match fishing are two totally different beasts. Also if the fish are hitting two inch long fry in the margins. A size eighteen dry or sixteen buzzer are not going to be effective. As for the elitist attitude snobbishness. The first s should be pronounced as k!

[@lindsayiflyfish]

I believe it can be a barrier to getting new blood into the sport. If it is within the rules you should be permitted to use it.👍

[@michaelshaw8370]

@@lindsayiflyfish Yes getting both new anglers to try enjoy and keep fly fishing is vital for the future continuation and survival of fisheries. Even more so than bringing back people who have for any of many reasons stopped to rekindle their love of the sport. If insufficient regular numbers of anglers don’t fish fisheries close. Even Rutland could be gone as a trout venue in less than twenty years. Even the rivers need money and work maintaining and improving to continue. The UK is the birthplace and foundationstone of trout fishing. We both individually and collectively must do whatever we can to continue and maintain that legacy for future generations. Anglers we are linked to our trout. In a symbolic relationship. For the trout to thrive we all must continue to do all we can. If they are not restocked be it by introducing fresh generations. Maintaining their environment. They will disappear. We as anglers also will age and die. Without enabling the next generation of anglers. Introducing helping and educating them. We are as doomed as the 🦤