Evolution of Grand Valley Speedway (Gran Turismo series)

[@autbo]

[3:25] That graphical leap between GT2 and GT3 is so damn impressive.

[@TommyFenstermacher5150]

And the fact that the framerate jumped from 30 FPS to 60 FPS...

[@Kalvinjj]

Well, that's an entire generation leap after all, I was more impressed by such a short time and difference between 1 and 2

[@Kalvinjj]

Max Huxtable-Short yeah there's not much time, but I still mean it has a generation of difference, since one runs on PS1 and the next on PS2. GT4 is not as impressive compared to GT3 as GT1 to 2 exactly because of this, they had quite some years to do it, it's expected they would push the system to it's limit. Technically it's impressive, but it's also a natural evolution

[@crg92]

Thought the exact same thing!

[@sag2974]

Thought exactly the same thing

[@idaiyar]

Grand Valley is back in GT7, you'll need to make an update soon

[@kevingame3198]

Buts it's different it's grand valley highway which based on real location

[@Ryba3000]

Yeah but I really miss the old one 😔

[@MrZaine97]

Was born in 97. GT was the first game I played. Father owned a wheel with pedals.... I've been hooked ever since. Guess starting them young is true. Thank you dad.

[@disracenboi336]

Fun Fact: The Toms Castrol JGTC supra was powered by a single Turbo 4 cylinder(a race variant of the 3S-GE) blueprinted from the legendary celica GT4 world rally car.

[@jameshanna3672]

Gt2 blow of valves "_" perfect

[@AustriaUndeadSlaya]

Better than some other blow off valves in modern games

[@TakumiFujiwara80]

yeah i wonder why the engine sounds become so dull and similar.... I hope to find someday a game where you can recognize a car by its engine noise.

[@tangosucka2000]

Agreed! And the mean and different engine sounds. Now days games sound like a race of 2 blenders, versus 3 vacuum cleaners, versus a few hairdyers...... My respect goes to the almighty PS2. That thing punched well above it's weight!

[@jameshanna3672]

Tango Sucka I know right Gt4 and 3 all cars actually sounded good I don't know what happened

[@Gordanovich02]

GT2 had the best engine sound by far. I always feel that a racing game should emphasize engine sounds over other sounds even if the mix is not 100% realistic.

[@Mx64MaxyImpress]

Grand Valley Speedway's Bridge was The Icon of it!

[@HarryNohara]

In my memory GT1 looked a lot better. Also, GT4 was an amazing accomplishment on the PS2.

[@Kalvinjj]

There's also that thing about it being able to run in Full HD (1080i), just no idea how you do this, if you need to run it on a PS3, or if you use component/SCART/RGB cable on the PS2, I just know it has some support for 1080i

[@ian-0583]

I think the graphics look much better when played on a fat TV

[@Kalvinjj]

Ian-05 No doubt. A good CRT shows PS2 games in all their glory. PS1 ones also, but I still prefer them on the PSP screen, since it runs on 1:1 pixel ratio. Also heard people saying about how PSP one looks like ass, but upscaled from 480x272 to the video of course it will! Throw it to run on real hardware, it's own screen, and then you see it shine. The proper display does wonders to games.

[@no1DdC]

Only the NTSC version of GT4 (and also Tourist Trophy, by the way) supports 1080i. It requires an NTSC console and a component cable. If you don't have an NTSC PS2 or a screen that supports component, you can try emulating the game using PCSX2. Needs a fairly powerful CPU however.

[@Kalvinjj]

Tried and works! Amazing that the PS2 can pull this off, heck a year 2000 hardware that does this, on games even, I really wouldn't believe normally. It does have some borders around the frame and obviously the textures look stretched, also with no smoothening whatsoever it looks a tad rough, but still, how many PS3 games even support 1080i natively? Many of them still run in 720p. For the ones trying it out: Yes, it requires what no1DdC mentioned (NTSC game and console, + component cable and obviously 1080i enabled TV/capture card), and it only enables the 1080i mode in single player races. Menus stay in 480i Widescreen, and so does multi player races (dunno if those support 480p as well), it switches picture modes back and forth when it enters the race and leaves it.

[@Gomanx]

GT1 and GT2 didn't have bad designs at all, and do fit the name Grand valley the best, even though the GT2 version does give a sense of altitude. I just don't like how all the walls and fences etc are huge. GT3 version has the same problem, even though a lot of details got changed particularly around the bridge and after the 1st corner. It has my least favorite bridge design, but saying it's a bad track for that reason only is wrong. None of the versions are bad. The GT4 version is my favorite. Its main problem is that it doesn't really fit the name as well as the others, but the attention to detail and proportion more than makes up for it. Feeling like driving around on a mountain track due to distaint mountains and the "Panorama corner" after the bridge with so much detail at lower altitude is great. Last, but not least, the fact that they kept this design for GT5 and GT6, with minor changes at most, only proves that the GT4 version is a masterpiece.

[@DavidRSAT]

GomanX I strongly disagree. The GT3 Version was epic and had that cool ass first corner.

[@RafidW9]

the transition from GT 5 to 6 is barely noticeable.

[@tiduspain9594]

There is actually a huge difference, you can't see it on this video

[@Kalvinjj]

I'm impressed on the difference between Gran Turismo 1 and 2, I didn't remember the 1st one at all, but when you compare them one after the other it feels like quite the jump, almost like it wasn't the same machine running both (not an entire generation gap, but quite big for only a year or two difference)

[@staggabob]

You can't say there's a huge difference but "you can't see it"- that's what we call a contradiction in terms! In fact there's really no difference at all in track modelling other than some of the sponsors have changed. Both versions use the same assets- even the exact same skybox (the clouds are identical). The only really noticeable visual difference between the games was the lighting and particle systems.

[@Kalvinjj]

*You can't see it ON THIS VIDEO. It's possibly a matter of the compression of the video. Specially when you consider they're on PS3 so it's all on a resolution high enough for the compression to kill many details.

[@SquibbeyJenkins]

You can say the same about 1 and 2

[@TheNinjiPlaysracingchannel]

Watching this brings good memories

[@abepowers4379]

TheNinjiPlays memories of how old I am! College sophomore when the first one came out.

[@ethansadventuresWI]

I love how the city buildings mysteriously disappear after gt2. Also the view from the tunnel changes multiple times along with various other parts along the course. It is still one of my favorite original course though. I did many endurance races here.

[@ChicaneEP3]

The GT3 version of Grand Valley is the best one imo

[@Shaburase]

Especially the reverse variant and it's beautiful sunset

[@jc1424]

^^^

[@kanggoo57]

Gt4 imo.

[@RZM_Valkyrie]

Such a step up from GT2 even though I prefer Forza this was still fantastic for its time and I have sooooo many memories from being that tiny 7 year old

[@jeffreyrussell6909]

Yes. Looks like it had a fresh repave

[@Mx64MaxyImpress]

Grand Valley Speedway is the best track of "Gran Turismo" Never got absent in important franchises

[@griffinfaulkner3514]

Nice of you to include Tourist Trophy in there. While it's certainly not a true Gran Turismo game, I find that it really forces you to learn the tracks down to the last inch, and punishes you extremely hard for going off the racing line. Great for learning good driving habits in general.

[@sarahburnside4606]

7 years later and gt5 is still beautiful

[@dikkememe9625]

Gt4 is better in my opinion

[@sandwichlegend2348]

@@dikkememe9625 gt4 is more fun for me but visually, gt4 isn't even close

[@benconway9010]

A lot of people would disagree with u mate

[@officialshura214]

@@sandwichlegend2348 Did you know that Gt4's sale rate is higher than all the Gran Turismo our There And Gt4 was followed by gt3 so this two gt's are the best

[@sandwichlegend2348]

@@officialshura214 I had no idea but that makes sense to me

[@jc1424]

My favorite Christmas present yet. I like how the car has the right colors. I❤U

[@Nismonath5]

I can't get over how seamless that transition is from GT5 to GT6.. so well executed!

[@warphonesS22]

I'm tearing up. Gran turismo is a part of my life ill never regret. From ps1 to ps3. I loved beating them as much as i could. Getting every car. Every license gold. Ugh but I've thrown or sold all my consoles and games. But the memories were infinite.

[@exilef7531]

I love the last corner and those S-kinks between the first and the second hairpin...

[@wretchedslippage3255]

the jump in quality from 2 to 3 is immense lol love it

[@Delmax99]

The legendary track from GT. 🔥

[@WesternBandits]

Racing on Grand Valley Speedway for the first time felt like I made it to the Big Leagues.

[@Blueflag04]

how people find this track to be hard?

[@soundwave5634]

Sonic Ace 24 well due to how Gran Turismo gives you the tracks it seems to be very technical then what you'd be used to. You start off with simple tracks like high-speed ring and maybe trial Mountain but Grand Valley has a hills and dips mid turn, chicanes and hair pins. Something like Tri-Mountain has these but a lot less dramatic if that makes sense. I'm also going off my pure experience of Gran Turismo 3 and 4 when I was 8 so take all this with a grain of salt.

[@dekoldrick]

Especially the bumps and curbs that easily upset your cars balance and could spin you out if you're not prepared for it. This combined with how the track has a lot of high speed corners and chicanes that transition suddenly into slow corners, narrow corners and narrow straights with close walls that leave little room for passing and error. It really puts you to the test until you get the hang of it and can drive the track perfectly by instinct.

[@LadyLucyna]

If you're a beginner, those actually tend to be hard when you're playing realistic, because GT (especially 5 IMO) is actually the most realistic driving game when it comes to the steering and to physics. For someone that put a lot of time into GT games, that's one of the easiest tracks.

[@andengalvarez9556]

I find high speed ring to be much harder. And I've been playing GT since the 1st one!

[@Spooksy_]

Sagit I like grand valley speedway, dunno why. Especially that endurance race in gt5, it was oh so special racing it back in 2011 as a 7 year old. First time i managed to fail it by not realizing that i needed to fill my fuel tank from pits 😂

[@horsepowerenthusiast6933]

Seeing this track to come back after 25 years is just a sight to behold.

[@soundwave5634]

I never noticed how they haven't changed the tires squeal sound effect for five games.

[@dusk33r]

Yes they did after 3

[@Mycroch]

@@apexgt4 its still the same sound

[@trashultra3747]

I really hope they'll add Grand Valley to GTSport

[@alliandzs8312]

Cedric Ruppelt me too

[@xander1052]

And trial mountain

[@Anon24052]

I hope they add all the OG original tracks, and test course in the GT3/4 layout

[@mehrad1983]

water 7 Still waiting

[@jackbogus105]

More chance of Midfield

[@chad2831]

i can’t get over how much of the screen is covered with the HUD. but what an awesome time to be a kid.

[@skippy2987]

I still remember doing a 47 second lap of grand valley east in GT2. Blue 32 GTR with race mods iirc

[@manugrande844]

The sound on GT2 😍

[@taegonlewis1398]

Aesthetically, GT2 and GT3’s versions have to be the best ones. The city backdrop behind the First Turn, the scenery, the tree and mountain formations, the tall-wall tunnels, the Bridge’s width; they’re all so memorable, to me.

[@ThatAussieBloke19]

Anyone else play gran trurismo 3 A spec?

[@SeanODea25]

Ninja Gaming me

[@emmanuelvelez8431]

Me thanks to the PCSX2 emulator for PC...

[@haydonclampitt]

Anyone else ever actually do I-Link battles with friends?

[@benconway9010]

Yeah

[@maktiscz6205]

no i play grant turismo 4

[@rb264ag]

Gt3 really made an effort to replicate the gritty sound of a 3SG race motor that would be in that car. Then you can hear how the sounds slowly went down the drain

[@massey4business]

I honestly don't recall GT 1&2 looking this bad... I miss that Supra for sure!

[@CLA82529]

It's gonna be interesting to see another comparison with GT7 now that Grand Valley is in.

[@zerotofifty]

It is crazy how Gran Turismo 1's interpretation still looks the best. I'm saying this as someone who is younger than the game itself.

[@knowur10sand18s]

GT3 and especially GT4 have aged nicely!

[@DeathBringer769]

Those are the best ones.

[@benconway9010]

@@DeathBringer769 yeah totally agree I still got them

[@samuelevolve184]

Gran Turismo is the first Racing Game and my first Career Game in my life 😍 Really glad can feel back the good old days

[@oscarcsar]

The best Gran Turismo original circuit. It is like Spa Francorchamps, it has a long straight, high speed curves, it has a chicane, it has two hairpins and its landscapes are beautiful. As I said, It is the Spa Francorchamps of the Gran Turismo series videogame.

[@jerryk7862]

I have no words to describe my feelings right now about GT 1, 2, 3, 4 they were my childhood games. 5 and 6 never got the chance to play them i did not have ps3 at that era. All the things that those games had i do miss them in GT Sport.

[@shokata9923]

This trailer from Gran Turismo 7 we’ve got Grand Valley Highway 1 with a real world location.

[@jamie1552]

When i was about 3 i used to be afraid of this and deep forest haha.

[@GamezCreaTiV]

13:04 Find 10 Differences!

[@ΧρήστοςΛύτρας-μ3η]

Man tt was an AWESOME game and so underrated at the same time. Such a shame they didn't make a second one

[@juancabeza5809]

2:30 This turbine/blow off valve sound is the one that got me hooked to this game back in the day!...

[@issabeganovic8822]

The ones that surprised me the most were 3 to 4 and 5 to 6. I expected more of a similarity with the 3 to 4 transition since it was the same engine, and 5 to 6 is practically the same, but with a new HUD and Weather Effects (fixed shadows included). The transition from 1 to 2 was pretty obvious, with new models, a lot more cars and engines, and TT is just 4 with Bikes.

[@sergioh2015]

If you listen closely when the cars are in the middle of a turn and they throttle the gas, the sounds of the exhaust are actually great.

[@T_Crushed]

Nice you included TT and GT PSP too. Great work!

[@DaniMacYo]

You should do an updated version for GT7 😁

[@theylivewesee1674]

that graphic transition between 2nd and 3rd game is mind blowing, 3rd game has aged like fine vine

[@Lukim]

Those sound effects are iconic, I love them

[@LucasSouza023]

I love this track, and i want this track to be real real track... seriously. Every time that i play other sim i miss this track, because i play in this track when i as kiddo 8yo in gt1, 9yo gt2, 13yo gt3, 15yo in gt4, 20yo in gt6, and i stopped with gran turismo with 21yo. This track would be an awelsome official gp track.

[@AdamAdamHDL]

Loved it. And thank you for the surprise tourist trophy addition.

[@jerryjoe88]

The ZX-6R is my favorite bike in Tourist Trophy too. Great vid!

[@PrinceShpil]

In GT7 now!

[@bhuuthesecond]

I like the sound the bike makes in the tunnel at 8:14

[@parismalaspinas2488]

I'm a big fan of grand Turismo series. My favorites are GT 4 and 5 , I had so much fun playing those 2 games I'll never forget them.

[@Nejinissan440]

Nice concept you've done here. Would be fun to see other tracks like High Speed Ring, Trial Mountain, Deep Forest,...

[@rikkistarrett307]

You forget how far ahead of it's time Gran Turismo 1 was. Nothing else like it around at the time.

[@killergnomestar]

The Supra in GT2 sounds so fucking powerful.

[@intheshadows92]

This track NEEDS to be added to gt7 in an update

[@osalto24]

Looks like we finally got our wish mate, update 1.29 is going to be a good one.

[@manugrande844]

The reflection on the cars are mindblowing

[@Lopuch64]

I think your viewers (me included) would love a video/some videos about Gran Turismo Series secrets or "things you didn't know about". Unless there already is one in which case sorry :v

[@thatextraguy21]

This was my go-to track for drift tune testing. Sadly not included in GT Sport.

[@MihzvolWuriar]

I'm the only one that prefers the tight turn 11 in GT1/2 than the latter ones? I really loved that tight left hander, but the hairpin it turned out at later games kinda bummed me out, not that it was bad, it was just less intense, and that's exactly why I loved that turn,

[@Giangsturh]

watches 7 laps of this track and now i feel like i've memorized it!

[@hoepsipoepsi]

We need this one in GT Sport... Always was my fav track along with Autumn Ring

[@ICrane88]

I can still remember the smell of Christmas morning in 1999 when I got Gran Turismo 2

[@Jombo1]

Ah yes, memories of sliding into the dirt and slamming into the wall on that first 180 turn

[@theothernodude3139]

PS1-PS2. Holy fucking shit that was a massive upgrade...

[@Dork-r1d]

Lol always wonder if the construction in 7 spins off to this. Space out to 10-100 reps to that! Need more nurberg sized tracks asap.

[@karelpipa]

i like how aggressive the turbo on Supra in GT1 sounds.

[@reacts]

The track layout on the S turn after the hairpin was better on GT3 and prior. I don't like the changed layout on GT4. However the altitude feeling on GT2 is my favourite. GT2 is my favourite Gran Turismo game

[@TheSpiritOfTheWest]

re6cts agreed

[@rodolfosfcsantos]

é impressionante como o GT4 esteve a frente de seu tempo!!!

[@RonaldoCarbone]

My best lap around Grand Valley Speedway on the original Grand Turismo in the TVR Cerbera LM Edition was 1:25

[@rupertgiles2636]

Great video. I would like to see more stuff like this. Thanks. Oh, and how about some commentary on how the tracks differ from game to game.

[@purwantiallan5089]

For me the GT5 and GT6 versions of Grand Valley Speedway are the most beautiful ones.

[@breadbox7278]

Gran turismo 2 had the coolest sounds ever

[@gmax876]

I can't wait for this to come back

[@SR228]

is it weird that I find the sound from GT and GT2 to be more appealing ?

[@TobiasThyselius]

Like the Turbo meter in GT3 A-SPEC. It works real nice

[@majesticraithier5332]

Does anyone else LOVE the turbo spool in GT2?

[@Krisisawake]

the castrol supra is so great :) nice video.

[@Serris412]

Hilarious to see the cars sounded like vacuum cleaners back then too.

[@mllnth]

I'm waiting for this course on GT Sport

[@lexuslfaguy3758]

Same bro!

[@michaelkitchin9665]

I wish they would make another Tourist Trophy.

[@UltimoGames]

yeah, completed that game 100%, so much more intense than GT !

[@dad4113]

Michael Kitchin me too, I don’t even have a PlayStation anymore but it’d be so cool to see another one with better physics and a.i

[@Marc98338]

The GT3 version of this track is my all time GT track favorite!

[@alessandro8970]

Gt4 still stays in my hearth

[@aoullaperzahouwi8284]

Nice finish at the end in GT6

[@rupertgiles2636]

Gran Turismo used to have better engine sounds. I wonder what happened for 5 & 6? 3 & 4 still look good!

[@bushcanesfive00]

Especially the BMW McLaren race cars, the V12 LMR, Jaguar XJR9 and certain others.

[@Sirdiggar]

GT2 Turbo spool and blow off valve sounded so good.

[@joe125ful]

Omg those memories!! GT2 coming! Penzoil GTR,Toyota GT1 Race car,Subaru forester,Hill climb beasts,100 laps racing is killer-4 hrs nonstop racing kill me,THX GT2! Next:Laguna seca?

[@gateway316]

GT2 was easily the pinnacle of their sound department.

[@moparman2nd]

Anyone else know the 90 degree turn into the first tunnel as coldfire's 90?

[@TheRageLivesOn]

This is a really cool video idea

[@guillermomenendezgarcia4606]

dat finish, feelsgoodman

[@taitai4real]

Gran Turismo 2 have the loudest turbo sound

[@epic_incarnate_4119]

I'm suprised you didn't do High Speed Ring first.

[@Just_That_Guy910]

Robbie Harrison yeah but high speed ring wasnt in gt3 tho

[@dejectedangel4970]

It was in GT1! I always raced on it!

[@pgzzz]

Grand Valley is my all-time favorite GT track

[@supramanx1997]

I wish I could actually drive this track. If I ever by some freak accident become a billionaire, I'm building it.

[@RacingDen115]

Also the host of the infamous grand valley 300K except gt6