Why do I get the feeling, if the war went on past 1945, the Germans would have figured out how to make stamped barrels
@xaderp5 жыл бұрын
Since they were flying wooden Jet-fighters fueled with synthetic fuel made from wood, a wood-pressed barrel seems more likely.
@sullivanrachael5 жыл бұрын
Steyr did pioneer cold forging MG42 barrels - the best way to mass produce high quality. Quite possibly K98K barrels could have been produced by same process; but the k43 (gas piston semi auto) was intended to replace the K98k, and that got the R&D efforts. There were other things they could have done - Sauer made K43 barrels that were press fitted and pinned to the receiver. That saved threading. Could have done that with the K98k. I guess the K98k production machinery was well established at multiple factories; all they could do was reduce refinement to reduce production costs
@Kosake865 жыл бұрын
They did. G3 Barrels were made by hammering/pressing a blank against a solid core, pardon my technical terminology. So, that's kinda like stamping I guess?
@no1DdC5 жыл бұрын
I mean, there were plans for a Panzerschreck made out of cardboard...
@vector69775 жыл бұрын
@@Kosake86 cold forging.
@QwertyBoredom1225 жыл бұрын
You know a war is going to shit when the primary logic for removing features on the guns is "the soldier isn't going to live long enought to need said feature"
@venator52 жыл бұрын
They had cleaning rods but was no longer the old type. it was like a flexible rod which carried in the backpack. Otherwise bothering about the firing pin removal thing would not make any sense.
@Gameprojordan2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't even what happened. They removed the bayonet lug because it was useless and never used, they got rid of the cleaning rod because they started using more compact cleaning pull cords that they store in their pockets/backpacks instead. It was practical cost cutting methods, not "let's make this gun as bare bones as possible because our men are dead either way". They would have made it far more crude and cheap if they went with that logic. This example they legitimately tried to make it just as useful as the fancier older models while cutting costs as much as possible on non-critical parts, and pulled it off well
@leviturner3265 Жыл бұрын
@@Gameprojordan Not used often. I would want a bayonet if I was equipped with a bolt-action rifle with a five-round capacity. I do however think it was pointless for a bayonet lug on the American M16 and M14, but that was a different rifle different time and different war.
@austinmatney75919 ай бұрын
@@leviturner3265I have read a few anecdotes and talked to a few soldiers who said that a bayonet was a useful tool in the field to obviously cut things and also in crowd control and while on guard duty. A bayonet makes the weapon more intimidating and harder to grab away from the user while costing essentially nothing to be able to add to the rifle. They already had the front sight assembly so adding a lug to it was a minimal increase in material and effort, maybe 3-4 more mill cuts required totaling an increase in machine time of maybe 15 minutes and adding a dollar to the cost of the rifle perhaps. I heard accounts of soldiers trying to control crowds of foreign people who seemed to not care about a loaded rifle being pointed at them due to a lack of cultural context surrounding them. However once a bayonet was affixed the people had more fear/respect of it than the gun since they had most likely personally seen what a knife injury can do while they may have never seen a rifle blow holes in people depending on how remote their village was. It’s like how you can point a gun at a dog and it doesn’t flinch but if you raised your hand or shoe to one that has been disciplined in such a way, it will cower and submit. Could also be bullshit but I’m not positive. Makes sense to me though.
@YettiattackАй бұрын
The cleaning rod wasn’t necessarily removed for that purpose. The rod is only about 1/3 the length of the barrel so you need to have other people around to share rods with. They were issues meta-link style bore snakes instead.
@formdusktilldeath5 жыл бұрын
It must felt really reassuring being issued a rifle without a cleaning rod.
@mitchellline33985 жыл бұрын
They probably tried the Lee Enfield cleaning system at some point. Where you get basically a string with a bit of cloth on the end and pull it through the barrel. I don't know if the Germans ever did it but they probably experimented with it.
@beavisbutt-headson32235 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellline3398 By now the Germans use pull-through chains. Might have started with that at the time (I don't know about cleaning equipment for MG42 but I ain't never seen 'em with a cleaning rod). Or maybe they just issued it seperately or 2 halves of a cleaning rod for two soldiers that just went in a pouch or something.
@minuteman41995 жыл бұрын
@@beavisbutt-headson3223 In the Canadian army we used both. Back when we had FN rifles, you got a pull through that you kept in the stock and each squad had a cleaning kit than came with a three piece rod and a bunch of other accesories. I think they still do that with the M16 rifles.
@ralfrude35325 жыл бұрын
The only use the cleaning saw, was to put three rifles together to a rifle teepee. Cleaning was done with a cleaning chain.
@JRT1765 жыл бұрын
@@beavisbutt-headson3223 I have both the cleaning rod and the chain. The chain is so much handier I think (better than having to bug your battle buddy for his half of the cleaning rod)
@varun0095 жыл бұрын
1939: milled everything 1946: stamped panther
@davidresetarits56164 жыл бұрын
varun009 well they used VW Beetles and Kübelwagen fitted with wooden, grey painted barrels and "armor plates" to make them look like tanks from a distance
@maxischew5144 жыл бұрын
*implying they would be able to make a tank*
@hanfpeter28224 жыл бұрын
@@maxischew514 they were. Even After the war in 1945 the german industry manufacturing ability was 20% higher than in 1938.
@curiousentertainment30084 жыл бұрын
hanf peter that’s due mostly because of slave labor and Albert Speer. Without Germany’s use a forced/ slave labor they wouldn’t have gotten their production rates higher in 1940-1943 and to a degree if Albert Speer wasn’t placed as the arms minister the war arguably could’ve ended faster. If he hadn’t streamlined and simplified (to a degree) German arms manufacturing. If he had been appointed as arms minister in say 1938 or 1939 It could’ve been prolonged the war possibly into late 1945 or maybe, though highly unlikely to January 1946.
@mitchlovesgames72813 жыл бұрын
ME-262 made out of Prestoff
@jaredback73475 жыл бұрын
Germany in 1945 "Current objective *SURVIVE* "
@xmm-cf5eg5 жыл бұрын
"Steal enemy submachine guns"
@americanoutcast97165 жыл бұрын
@@xmm-cf5eg my favorite round
@Eshayzbra965 жыл бұрын
Hahaahhaha nice Halo Reach reference there
@Agentcoolguy15 жыл бұрын
@@Eshayzbra96 It's also from Mass Effect 3.
@drakesomerset1295 жыл бұрын
Halo reach reference there
@andreibaciu75185 жыл бұрын
The Japanese disapprove the decision of removing the bayonet lug
@thesnake26205 жыл бұрын
*Puts a bayonet on an LMG*
@thesnake26205 жыл бұрын
*Puts a bayonet on an SMG*
@thesnake26205 жыл бұрын
**Banzai charge intensifies**
@thesnake26205 жыл бұрын
They should have made a tank with a bayonet on it haha
@randymagnum1435 жыл бұрын
Might as well have put them on zeros, lol
@ludovicvanb97133 жыл бұрын
9:46 "Hans the situation is very bad, you know we have to do it. - Oh no, remove the screw holding the screw ? - I told you, it's critical."
@Chevypotamus5 жыл бұрын
A visual illustration of the Germans reluctantly settling on function over form.
@Lastburn5 жыл бұрын
still less demoralizing than holding an m3
@coryhall70745 жыл бұрын
@@Lastburn Please. Grease Gun > just about any other sub gun
@justanotherrandomfilipino90185 жыл бұрын
lptomtom *Nazis
@FreeOfFantasy5 жыл бұрын
@@coryhall7074 The Grease Gun is great, it just looks like a cheap piece of metal. Still not nearly as bad as the Sten, but compare them with the MP40 and they just look bad.
@peregrine38455 жыл бұрын
American actually believe this.
@Hansengineering4 жыл бұрын
"Let's see what happened to German production during the war!" Bombs. Bombs happened.
@camronrapp41464 жыл бұрын
I thought that was Japans gig lol
@jakey24304 жыл бұрын
Camron Rapp nah, it was mostly swords and bayonets
@MrWoodii3 жыл бұрын
They would have had to move to the Kriegsmodell even without allied bombing. They would have needed millions more rifles (and the men to fire them) to turn back the Soviet steamroller.
@jehoiakimelidoronila54503 жыл бұрын
Yup. Bombs pretty much ruined everything.
@camronrapp41463 жыл бұрын
@@jakey2430 I don't think you got the joke
@Stengell5 жыл бұрын
Range is stamped on the backside of the sight so you can set the range while lying behind the rifle.
@ApicalisHD5 жыл бұрын
Good point man, didn't think of that
@Locutus4945 жыл бұрын
@@LongPigg It's not stupid, but it definitely isn't necessary, especially for a nation like Germany late in a war it's losing.
@Sturm015 жыл бұрын
I just figured it was for use with rifle grenades. Flip it to the backside to get your angle of fire.
@Tdbrptgmr5 жыл бұрын
@@Sturm01 I don't think they attached grenades launchers to k98s
@Eisenhammer785 жыл бұрын
Das rafft der Ami halt nicht Jakob ^^
@Nukle0n5 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a Wehrmacht soldier, sent out to die, and the gun they give you is giving you splinters in your fingers. That must be quite the feeling of defeat.
@ralfrude35325 жыл бұрын
Maybe they have told it was done intentionally, so soldiers have a better grip on their rifles.
@allewis40085 жыл бұрын
For last ditch weapons, the 45's are still good quality and safe to shoot.
@theexchipmunk5 жыл бұрын
Well, from the whole Zeitgeist and propaganda of that time it was probably even the contrary. Imagine being a Wehrmacht soldier who despite the country being nearly overrun and beaten still gets a new rifle made in spite of the dwindling resources. They very likely even took a spiteful pride in it.
@marcaxe5 жыл бұрын
@Ralf Rude Great news Hanz! Our position will no longer be given away by the sun reflecting off a polished rifle stock! Whatever will our scientists come up with next?
@riftandrend52545 жыл бұрын
Just issue it with sandpaper
@AsbestosMuffins5 жыл бұрын
"And by 1945, dear lord the russians are coming!" best summery of 1945
@loganjefferies39273 жыл бұрын
And unlike the Germans, are actually equipped with suitable clothing.
@kriest34703 жыл бұрын
@@loganjefferies3927 and weapons the ppsh had 6 million units produced 😂
@sisophon19823 жыл бұрын
And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming
@DutchGuyMike3 жыл бұрын
Only thanks to the US/UK aid in supplies. Without it Operation Bagration could never have been launched (since 200.000 US trucks were used for the infantry) and the counter-offensive along the entire front after Kursk would not have happened either, at least in a much smaller scale. As Zhukov himself said: Without the supplies from the US we would never have been able to win the war.
@ianwilcox31453 жыл бұрын
“Put in a screw, tighten it down, it’ll be fine.” 😬
@Antigonus.5 жыл бұрын
Ian: "No nation is going to actually issue rifles that are legitimately unsafe to their soldiers." USA circa 1903: "Challenge accepted." Canada circa 1905: "Hold my beer."
@searinggravy70475 жыл бұрын
which rifles did they issue?
@fmi0055 жыл бұрын
SearingGravy the US issued a mauser, the canadians issued a rifle that smacked its user in the face
@piritskenyer5 жыл бұрын
This is slightly misleading. The US M1903 Springfield was unsafe because of rushed early manufacture recievers (incorrect heat treat), a problem that got corrected rather soon and rifles were refurbished. The Ross rifles had a problem where they could be reassembled in such a way that pushing the bolt forward wouldn't engage the locking lugs and would result in the bolt coming back under pressure from firing. An oversight and a valid point, but the bolt stops always did their job and apart from broken noses and black eyes have never resulted in fatalities. Emphasys on training the proper reassembly method alleviated the problem, but it's indeed a huuuuge oversight for a military rifle.
@davidhonfi26835 жыл бұрын
Ian actually has a video where he explains the "problem" with the Ross rifle and how you could missasemble it(is that even a word?)
@freedomvigilant12345 жыл бұрын
UK 1987 L85A1 rifle.
@notkimjongun22835 жыл бұрын
Some poor kid being handed the 1945 rifle: so like how do I clean the barrel and the bolt? Guy giving out the rifles: nah Hans you won’t need to clean this cause...you know what don’t worry about it😂
@ElliWoelfin5 жыл бұрын
Hilarious.
@notkimjongun22835 жыл бұрын
VSKKG uh oh we got a edgy weeb over here😂😂😂🇺🇸
@davidschaadt59294 жыл бұрын
But my dad had a real nice one !
@thewalking44733 жыл бұрын
@@davidschaadt5929 Guy giving out rifles: * demonic tone * *I dont recall asking, I give the rifles, you shoot. Is that clear, boy?*
@florinivan69072 жыл бұрын
Would the kid know that rifles need to be cleaned if he never dealt with firearms before?🤔
@samholdsworth39575 жыл бұрын
Dude, where's my Kar?
@00vondough005 жыл бұрын
Where's your Kar Dude?
@cieme22815 жыл бұрын
yo, did you lose your Kar?
@samholdsworth39575 жыл бұрын
@@cieme2281 nah dawg, lost the keys to my Kar!
@artfact25 жыл бұрын
Yeah, where's my Karl, dude?
@GermDGator5 жыл бұрын
Sam Holdsworth **hands over a block of wood**
@havokvladimirovichstalinov5 жыл бұрын
"Fritz! Der Shiße has hit the fan!" "Mein Gott Hans! Hand me that rifle." "But its not finished!" "Too late now... "
@rainerzufall76395 жыл бұрын
Was zum fick?!?
@xxmr-handsomexx73634 жыл бұрын
Haha echt gut 😂👍
@generalaccount65314 жыл бұрын
"Oh Scheiße, we absolutely need to simplify all Waffe! If we remove 1/5 the amount of metal used in each riffle, we might stand a chance against the Russ... Wait, Wat ist that gigantic building over there, Fritz?" "Oh, that's our 1000 ton tank, Hans!"
@jakey24304 жыл бұрын
“HOFFE! GET EIN PANZER, VERDAMMT!”
@kriest34703 жыл бұрын
Otto, I know we don't have ze cleaning rods no more but you don't need it where your going 👌
@Chrisket5 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Ian has to say stamped
@issackliener30655 жыл бұрын
A shot with my rifle? Sure
@MrBioniclefan15 жыл бұрын
Issac Kliener lol
@ChocorocK5 жыл бұрын
The cops are coming. I blame you.
@bitterleafcastle15525 жыл бұрын
I ran out of ammo, unfortunately
@SK-cj7gk5 жыл бұрын
I consumed 4 litres of pure alcohol. Im fine because im russian.
@Dreska_5 жыл бұрын
Her brother Her ex You
@Hybris511295 жыл бұрын
*Off screen* Her father (Gewehr 98)
@moosemaimer5 жыл бұрын
*offscreen* The guy she's interested in (TankGewehr)
@Nonii-925 жыл бұрын
Well it could be worse! (volkssturm VG-5)
@subarunatsuki41455 жыл бұрын
Oh, Flaking accurate!!!
@piergiorgiocaroli92015 жыл бұрын
*offscreen* Her Cousin (Gewehr 43).
@JKC405 жыл бұрын
"Bayonet not practical for anything" 20xx: US troops use bayonets in Afghanistan
@CGRstudios15 жыл бұрын
JKC40 Marines in 2004
@JKC405 жыл бұрын
@@CGRstudios1 Thanks, i couldn't remember which service or year. And after, the Army immediately reinstated bayonet training.
@Axemantitan5 жыл бұрын
Also, USMC at Khe Sanh in 1968, British Army in Basra in 2004.
@buckstop5 жыл бұрын
The Space Force is gonna have plasma bayonets to cut through Chinese boarding craft like butter
@xmm-cf5eg5 жыл бұрын
AKM's to this day, lol.
@9HoleReviews5 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO! we've been doing a lot of research recently on exactly this topic: the transition to the semi kreigs and full kreigsmodell! RE: undermarkings on the sights... I learned that the sight leaf under-marked range graduations were a carry-over from the trench era, The idea was that the soldier could adjust the sights of the rifle by flipping it up, seeing the range markings without peeking over the rifle (staying low to cover) and adjusting the proper range by looking at the bottom of the leaf.
@NaireVeuze5 жыл бұрын
Krieg not Kreig =D
@9HoleReviews5 жыл бұрын
@@NaireVeuze ACK! Einschulung!
@NaireVeuze5 жыл бұрын
@@9HoleReviews ok please explain ACK! To me never heard xD Einschulung ist mir natürlich bekannt. Wobei man hier eher sagen würde: "Setzen!Sechs!"
@no1DdC5 жыл бұрын
@@9HoleReviews Einschulung? That's funny. The word literally translates to "first day of school". :D I think you were trying to say "Entschuldigung". Not to be snarky, but how are you able to do research with this little German language proficiency? English sources only?
@nathan6555555 жыл бұрын
I was about to post the same thing, that is exactly the reason why they put number on the underside of the sight. I don't even think it is that strange when you know the reasoning behind it
@heinzxzxzxzxzx5 жыл бұрын
The markings on the bottom of the sight have a use. They are still used in guns like the mg3. If youre prone and you want to adjust the sights you can do it as low as you can. Its probably pretty useless on a rifle tho
@KY-tp9en5 жыл бұрын
heinzxzxzxzxzx I think they still imagined lines of soldier prone on berms or in trenches then the design was thought of.
@heinzxzxzxzxzx5 жыл бұрын
@@KY-tp9en i used similar sights in an mg3 and its nice to adjust them while still being in a firing position or in cover.
@KY-tp9en5 жыл бұрын
It is a great idea. I rarely look at anything designed by Germans and think anything is missing or intentionally left out.
@karlsteiner5 жыл бұрын
@@heinzxzxzxzxzx Yes, exactly. I was trained to prefer changing the range on flipped-up sights on the MG3 because else you would stick your upper body out of cover ...
@heinzxzxzxzxzx5 жыл бұрын
@@karlsteiner yeah me too
@HoodieProduction5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or are crude last ditch weapons almost more interesting than their well made counterparts?
@Bloated_Tony_Danza4 жыл бұрын
SongBird the crude last ditch weapons make me sad. They’re a symbol of really miserable people under really miserable conditions and these guns really hit me in the feels. No cleaning rod? Like damn, seems minor but it’s like “they don’t even think I’m going to live” it’s heartbreaking
@tiredorchid56294 жыл бұрын
@@Bloated_Tony_Danza they were nazi soldaten, dont feel too too bad now ja? The nazis deserved to lose the war, but yea, the whole ordeal was...hell on everyone involved
@limpetarch98k4 жыл бұрын
A context of despair certainly boosts up interest. I mean, for instance, we will 100 % remember 2020 because of how wild it was and how drastic the humans's decisions were. I see the same interest on a last ditch rifle. They are so crudely made you cannot help but gravitate toward them to try understanding how they were happy with such downgraded rifles. Yes, it is not pretty. Yes, it has some features removed. But at least they did not touched this legendary Mauser action and this action will run reliably. I guess they made this action their wife.
@4skintim9624 жыл бұрын
aidan Leasburg well I mean 95% of the soldiers didn’t know of all the shitty stuff the nazis did. They were just men fighting for their country sent into battle with shitty weapons. Discarded by the only country they love
@Glenn-kc5eu4 жыл бұрын
@@tiredorchid5629 the majority of german soldiers didnt know about the concentration camps and at that point in the war they we're so desperate most of the wharmacht was depleted it was mostly the volksturm which was scraping the bottom of the barrel any able bodied german citizen was given a weapon and sent at the enemy
@fluffyrevenge225 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather was an American soldier in WWII, he has two guns from the war, one being a luger which he says he stole off a dead German's body, and the other being the Kar98k, which he got by trading his standard issue rifle to a friend who gave him this. They are absolutely beautiful weapons, I've only ever seen them once a few years ago, but they are absolute artworks.
@mannfred14405 жыл бұрын
Is It a one from start of the war or the end
@stsk74 жыл бұрын
Wonderful I hope you keep them in the family
@CocoonClub3604 жыл бұрын
Grandfather of my Pal had six insanely good rifles from the WW2 in the "gardenhouse". Next to his Eisernes Kreuz 2 class ect. Little bit magic for a little boy. One rifle was from the WW1 too.
@wailnshred3 жыл бұрын
I doubt he traded the rifle he was issued. Soldiers have to account for any gear they are issued.
@scarzandy4363 жыл бұрын
Its fake, you don’t ever trade your standard issue rifle
@nickm91235 жыл бұрын
"No one will design a gun dangerous to their soldiers..." have you seen a late war type 94 nambu pistol? Those things are so dangerous they should be on the list of NFA destructive devices
@simplymadness88495 жыл бұрын
nick m Stop with this garbage. The Type 14 is not dangerous, if anything it’s way overbuilt for the 8mm Nambu cartridge. The video of the morons at TFBTV not knowing how to safely handle a hang fire aside.
@xmm-cf5eg5 жыл бұрын
I mean, we sell RAS-47 (and C39v2) "american Ak's" to the general public here in the USA, and those sheer metal off their bolts and aren't properly heat treated at all. We sell that shit quality stuff to Civilians, let alone military personnel.
@simplymadness88495 жыл бұрын
Black Shinobi The guy pulls the trigger and gets a click. He then shifts to an awkward hold (pointing the gun almost at his arm) to “fix this malfunction” and the round finally goes off. It was a classic hang fire. American made modern 8mm Nambu ammunition is notoriously garbage and most of it is out of spec.
@paraskaikessa5975 жыл бұрын
Lol bazookas :(
@erichn42915 жыл бұрын
French chochat? Sorry i butchered the spelling.
@dragonkingofthestars5 жыл бұрын
i imagine at some point some guy spent the whole war making Karabiner, then one day picked up a 35 model, and a 45 model and cried.
@TheSmokingScarecrow5 жыл бұрын
"If you live long enough to need to disasemble your bolt" Classic savage Ian :D
@allangarrett62512 жыл бұрын
Try and not fracture a rib putting it back together.
@Yuubari5 жыл бұрын
Ian:"no nation would issue weapons legitimately unsafe for their soldiers to use" Japan: "hold my sake" *Issues Type 94 Nambu Pistol*
@buckeyebeliever33975 жыл бұрын
What a perfectly satisfying format for this video: all three versions, in frame, having each component broken down for how it changed and why. Loved it thank you!
@82SSchultz3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a good format, though there are more than just 3 versions. My Kar 98k is from 1941 and has a mixture of the first 2 rifle's features...namely it has the pre-war milled disassembly disk and the H shaped nose cap (though the metal under it isn't ground down like the pre-war), and milled trigger assembly. Beyond that it is mostly like the 1944 version, with the beech laminate stock, thicker butt plate, sight hood, etc. Glad I vowed not to buy one made after 1942 when the war started to go against Germany and was lucky enough to find a good version.
@coolzalexxx0075 жыл бұрын
10:01 If you notice closely, something hit the bunker Gun Jesus was examining the rifles from. This proves that Gun Jesus actually time travels to provide us with more accurate information.
@sergei_18635 жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus make another one miracle! I've just bought 98k and now he's sending me the Revelation! My rifle is 1936 and has laminate stock with flat butplate and milled disassembly disk.
@Aimless65 жыл бұрын
Well, he did say that the original design caused chipping and cracking of the stock. So it might just be re-stocked after '41.
@rupertbaskerville5 жыл бұрын
My K98 is 1938 dated but none of the numbers match meaning it was most likley captured in Russia. All the Russian capture guns were taken apart and stored for potential future use, then when they decided to sell them they just stuck them all back together however they liked
@TheShawna15 жыл бұрын
Mine is a 1938 I believe marked S/243 only thing not matching is the Bolt very nicely made Cupped buttplate I think there is some Russian writing on it maybe a capture?Not sure.jim
@sgtpavlov5 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine there's an "x" marking on mine, which was a Russian capture, dated '43, with a laminated stock,milled stock disk, and flat butt plate.
@onelonecelt91685 жыл бұрын
@@TheShawna1 Much of the time the Swastikas will be peened out, even if the Eagle remains. Also electro-penciling that is not the import mark could indicate a RC. You will also see parts deletion, such as the cleaning rod, floorplate capture screws, and front sight hood, as the Russians considered these parts non-essential. (I have a BCD 44 that is a RC and has the the electro-penciling and parts deletion, but the dirty birds are still intact!)
@TheKodiak725 жыл бұрын
PLEASE JUST ONCE. Do a intro with "Hey welcome to forgotten weapons, my name is gun jesus and im at auction house X today"
@stuartjohns27795 жыл бұрын
That's gun Jebus😅
@lbbrock82195 жыл бұрын
In a Christmas Episode about the G11
@shawnr7715 жыл бұрын
You know he could possibly be religious or does not want to offend people who are in his audience. Who believe that doing that is a bad thing to do. Probably does not tell yall to stop for the same reason. Knows that it will just get worse.
@JohnsonLobster5 жыл бұрын
Yes, because that's still funny after the thousands of times people have written it in the comments...
@TheKodiak725 жыл бұрын
@Prussian Eagle love the name. My logo is of Hesse, a Prussian state.
@MrBothandNether5 жыл бұрын
The quality of the "worker" declined as well, - from citizen to prisoner to slave
@thiesvanderkooij84214 жыл бұрын
No cleaning rod? Eh, they’ll probably freeze solid at Stalingrad anyway.
@abbcc59963 жыл бұрын
2 years had passed since stalingrad at this point
@Exweller5 жыл бұрын
The Bolt changed! From oval to round pressure relieve holes and the extractor guide on the bolt was removed...
@charlesadams17215 жыл бұрын
I Believe Ian used the important modifier - substantial. Indeed, there were changes in the fit and finish of 5he bolts, not removing machining marks on certain flats on the receivers and areas of the barrels, very much as was seen in on many other firearms in many countries, even arms of the allies.
@ConeTutoriais5 жыл бұрын
"mid war" 1944 model lulz
@Axemantitan5 жыл бұрын
I've heard that half of the WW2 fatalities occurred in the last 18 months of the war, so in terms of casualties, that is mid-war.
@DGARedRaven5 жыл бұрын
Consider: Early 1944, BEFORE Operation Overlord, there was heavy fighting, of course; but there wasn't an immediate need to fight on two fronts. Last-Ditch attempts only started after fighting in France started again.
@rlanger31085 жыл бұрын
@@MetanoiaAm can confirm. My 1941 model looks just like the 1935 model, except for having plywood rather than walnut, cupped butt end and military markings rather than commercial.
@woodland53255 жыл бұрын
@@KI.765 well they still would of had some wall nut that would have aged since... Also different factories at work would probably do slight changes to wood based on what was available
@d.quixotedatristefigura14104 жыл бұрын
To be quite fair, before Operation Bagration things could still be considered "mid war".
@codemiesterbeats5 жыл бұрын
Early model "en churmany vee must have ein screw to hold the screw" lol the late model could have been called the "zwei x vier"
@MillwalltheCat5 жыл бұрын
My K98k is S/42G, no. 3303. They're sisters!
@Pitchlock82515 жыл бұрын
I really need to get myself a 98k one of these days.
@jamez4703 жыл бұрын
Did you ever end up getting one? I’m interested in getting one eventually but not sure what or where to look for.
@marcomartins35635 жыл бұрын
"No nation, Germany, Japan or anybody else is going to actually issue rifles that are legitimaly unsafe" - well, I guess since Nambu are pistols you're technically right
@klan7925 жыл бұрын
The lack of cleaning rods wasn't an issue since they had been using the RG-34 tobacco can style cleaning kit with the pull through chain. The cleaning rods were only half length anyway. Two had to be threaded together to reach down the bore. The US didn't issue cleaning rods with the M1903 or WWII era M1 Garands. They just used a pull through. The sectioned cleaning rod for the M1 came postwar.
@xXBoo56Xx5 жыл бұрын
I have interestingly acquired a CE-44 marked Mauser with an odd, suspected last-ditch stock. All the features of the BCD-4 shown in this video were present with the exception of the woodwork and front sight hood. The stock, not belonging to any of the typical patterns of K98k stocks, was a hideous thing of slimmer proportions than a standard one. It seemed to be modeled after the common types but notably different in dimensions, similar to a Khyber Pass kind of build. Wooden plugs were in place of the cross pin and bolt takedown, and the buttplate was a leather strip. The stock abruptly ended at the front sight and utilized a Kreigsmodell nose cap sawed in half, held in place by two different-sized wood screws. To top it off it was heavily lacquered in a finish that appeared to be applied by an 8-year-old. Sounds like some sort of postwar "modification", right? And this is the interesting part: the stock has a STAMPED serial number matching to the receiver and barrel (2680)! WTF! I would not doubt that someone has sporterized the gun considering the presence of some non matching parts, but who in the hell would go through the trouble to stamp a serial number in the damn stock, only to leave the other parts well alone? The guy that gave me the gun had no idea what it was; a "gunsmith" told him it was chambered in 7.65x53 Argentine, said it wouldn't chamber and extract a round. I was doubtful of both of these, all I did was clean the bolt and the thing cycled like a dream. I then went to the range with a box of Argentine, only to find that it couldn't hit a barn door at 50 feet (no exaggeration). Discouraged, I let the gun sit awhile. One night while watching a Forgotten Weapons video on a Chilean Mauser I conjured up some confidence to revisit the derelict. Under research of the markings I eventually came up with the idea that it might actually be a legit Nazi K98k (my all-time favorite bolt action rifle). This time I tested the gun out with 8mm Mauser, and what do you know? It shot amazing! Today the gun wears a beautiful Kreigsmodell stock and a front sight hood, seemingly because it might resemble it's original last ditch configuration. It is a great shooting - and great looking - piece of history. If anyone knows any more information about this kind of rifle I would love to hear it (Oh, and Ian. Thank you for inspiring me to revisit this great firearm).
@jackp.richardson6415 Жыл бұрын
If you took a standard K98k stock from the early/mid war & put the Kriegsmodell bolt, barrel, trigger guard, etc onto it, would it function the same?
@alexbro84593 жыл бұрын
The numbers below the sight are actually really useful. If you want to change the Range your sight is set to and you are laying down, it’s pretty hard to look at the markings from the Top, because you are behind the rifle and raising or moving around to get a better view on the numbers would not be an option. If you have the number also on the bottom , you can just flip it over an set the sight according to them without having to move 🤷♂️
@Nordern5 жыл бұрын
One of the things you can do with the range on both sides of the sights is to see the numbers easily without taking the gun out of your shoulder, a very small thing but it's there intentional or not
@PBG7625 жыл бұрын
Indeed, that's why the markings are on the underside. Just is not for the range but rather for prone shooting in covered position: tranche, fortification, any position that requires to minimize changing the rifle position. Similar concept but done different is seen on machine guns, for example PKM.
@safty8240 Жыл бұрын
the double faced sight marking was a serious deal so if a solider was in a trench or in a prone situation and had to adjust elevation he doesn't need to pull the gun back and look from above or ruin his positioning to adjust it he just flip the sight making it vertical and adjust using the markings on the back of the sight then close it again that was a really good feature
@tylerchaney15335 жыл бұрын
I love how he says "if you live long enough" when talking about the lack of features on the last ditch model. Real morale booster there gun jesus...
@HydraDominus4 жыл бұрын
Just picked myself up a good condition k98 and it's hands down my absolute favorite rifle I've ever owned
@tomshepard84735 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure when WW3 starts last ditch of US weapon will be Cobray Terminator :)
@xmm-cf5eg5 жыл бұрын
it'll be an AR-15 lower attached to a compound Bow.
@dianabarnett68865 жыл бұрын
I shudder in horror at the concept of a war so terrible that the US has to struggle to supply its troops with small arms.
@weiwu14425 жыл бұрын
@@xmm-cf5eg that's literally a thing in battlefield 3
@dak44654 жыл бұрын
We'd surrender before resorting to that level
@hailexiao27703 жыл бұрын
Nah it will be random assorted expropriated civilian firearms. US civilians own something like 50% of all the guns in the world.
@christocc5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Ian. Recently, I purchased a 1941 Gustloff Werke K98k from a man who claimed his father brought it home from WWII as war booty. There are no import marks on it, so I tend to think that's true. It also came with a "butcher bayonet" that is marked "ALEX COPPEL SOLINGEN 1918." All of the serial numbers on the K98k match except for the bolt, which has a straight bolt handle, not a bent one.
@bastianbucher75414 жыл бұрын
We have Wallnut trees in Germany. A whole lot.
@D_Boone2 жыл бұрын
I can see the value in having the bottom of the sight graded. Imagine how annoying it would be if you are laying prone or even bench rested and wanted to adjust for range. You would have to bring your head up high (bad idea) or tip the rifle back towards you. Instead, you could just flip the sight up, and still looking down the barrel, adjust the sight range. Seems nice to me.
@anglishbookcraft15162 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@DreadnoughtHvor4 жыл бұрын
The Kar98 was my first rifle.
@bigginga38855 жыл бұрын
Germany 1936: alright let's take our time with the rifles make sure there nice Germany 1944: alright we need more rifles let's simplify the process some Germany 1945: Call me colonial America cause I'm stamping everything!
@joseyf26505 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that the early front sights were numbered on the bottom as well so soldiers could adjust them from the prone position without lifting their heads or moving the rifle. I believe it was in Richard Laws’ “Backbone of the Wehrmacht”, another great video, keep em coming.
@shanemoore80555 жыл бұрын
even scrapping the barrel by late 1944, German guns still looked evil
@FrenchTaunter125 жыл бұрын
Right when this Video was published I was in the process of assambling my own K98 (all inert parts, no fireing function and no real barrel) from original parts. I had trouble finding good reference material to decide which parts would fit and what to look for. Literally a day later this Video emerged and basically solved all my problems. Thanks, Ian. It was a real fun Project and you and your Videos are the main reason I could pull it off.
@jacobcannon20005 жыл бұрын
I have a question, I recently bought a 98K and it’s stamped DOU 45, I know these markings but it doesn’t seem to compare to other 45’s very well, it seems it’s higher quality as it has a bayonet lug, cleaning rod, and a mid war laminate stock but doesn’t have the milled hole, as well as the floor plate and trigger guard seem to be different as it’s shape is odd for a k98.
@Sreven1995 жыл бұрын
It could be an early 45. I have a DOU 44 that has a hodge-podge of 44 and 45 qualities
@Durgwin5 жыл бұрын
it isn´t that stupid to engrave the underside of the rear sight, you wouldn´t have to take the rifle from from the target you just change it comfortable while laying on the ground P.S.: i apologize for my gramma im from austria
@stevenbode2854 жыл бұрын
this blew my mind
@KY-tp9en5 жыл бұрын
Sights marked on the bottom so you don't have to raise your head to adjust range. Just common sense theory.
@ethanjohnson25485 жыл бұрын
Just a guess, but I'd think the range markings on the bottom of the rear sight are for soldiers to be able to adjust the sights while prone. Lift the rear sight, move the slider, put it back down without substantially moving from your shooting position. Just a hunch, but it sorta kinda makes sense-ish.
@bloqk163 жыл бұрын
I had an experience that made me wonder what the logic was behind the 2K yards/meters sight setting for rifles with iron sights. A friend of mine took me to a shooting range out in the Nevada desert where a 55 gallon/200L sized drum was placed up on a hillside at 1,000 yards, with that white-painted drum being used as a rifle target, and it was barely visible. The girth of an average man would be considerable narrower than that of a drum that size. The only thing I could figure was if there was a crowd of soldiers grouped together, out in the open, then maybe a rifle shot could hit someone within that group when firing at such a distance.
@leewilkinson63722 жыл бұрын
The idea is said to have been to use a company of men with these rifles to "beat down" an area at that range. This role has now been taken over largely by machine guns. So these sights were not meant to be man tatgetable at 1000 yds, but rather to be an area denial device when the rifles were used in mass. This is a bit of a "throwback" to the days when "volley fire" was the preferred method of killing.
@bloqk162 жыл бұрын
@@leewilkinson6372 Ah! That makes sense! Thanks!
@Shmingming5 жыл бұрын
Do an actual episode on the Kar98k please!
@lokatzistakis4 жыл бұрын
NO BAYONET??? My gott... They were too cool for them.. Well... They played, they lost.
@LeFeuauxpoudres5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see if this happen also in ww1 on G98 and Kar98
@alexanderharris67505 жыл бұрын
Two issues with the video. The graduated site marks were on the underside of the sight leaf so the shooter could adjust the sites with minimal movement by not having to adjust his or the rifles position to look over top. Secondly the rifle had to be made with such high standards in the beginning because it was posing as a sporting rifle. Making a purely combat grade weapon would raise suspicion
@ohnenamen28435 жыл бұрын
The thing is, that the cleaning rod isn’t for cleaning, for that the soldier had a „cleaning device” wich was a metal bore snake. The rod was mostly for rifle pyramids.
@ohnenamen28433 жыл бұрын
@Superdude70 You’re right. When you got a Stuck case you would use the rod. Bot for anything else like cleaning you would use the boresnake
@mohammedcohen5 жыл бұрын
I have a Gew98 made in 1916 - obviously saw combat if it was manufactured in THAT year - stamped Spandau (survived both the Great War and the Weimar Republic) - at some time it its life it was converted to a 98k and survived both the Second War and 'Bubba' after being brought back to the States...IIRC mostly all numbers match - I'd hafta dig through my collection to find it to find out which, if any, don't match. It's one of the prides of my collection - and to think that at first I wasn't terribly interested it having my wife buy it for me - now I'm glad I own it...
@damianfalcon-eye85905 жыл бұрын
Germany made own "ersatz" bayonets during WWI 😇 They has many models and use experience of that in WWII 😁
@manicsainer3683 жыл бұрын
Germany: let’s simplify the weapon Japan: let’s become the weapon
@romansongen62845 жыл бұрын
I think i parked my Kar in the wrong place
@reginaldsafety60902 жыл бұрын
The degrading finish of these rifles has a lot in common with the quality of the work I did in college.
@OehlJim5 жыл бұрын
A thought on the range markings on the bottom of the rear sight. It would be easier and safer when shooting prone to adjust your elevation by lifting the rear sight ramp and using the rear markings than by removing the rifle from the line and adjusting from the top.
@Eshayzbra965 жыл бұрын
I have a Russian Captured k98, but I'm lucky because aside from the receiver, barrel and stock (which is a DOT 43), every single part is early war to pre war.
5 жыл бұрын
Slave laborers would urinate in the glue, causing structural failure in aircraft wing assemblies and rudder/stabilizer components. They also plugged oil passages in tank and aircraft engines and transmission/ reduction gear cases.
@gregglistrom24835 жыл бұрын
Mine has byf 43 stamped on it. It is a mix of early and mid components, but none of the serial numbers match each other. So I guess I have a Frankenstein model.
@DashRendar3085 жыл бұрын
Ian, I think the range markings on the bottom of the sight are there for when you are lying prone, you dont have to move the rifle or lift your upper body to check the range, so you can change the setting with better cover and as little movement as possible in order not to give away your position and stay as close to the ground as possible.
@ForgottenWeapons5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I realized that after I had finished editing the video. Oops!
@whitewolfO15 жыл бұрын
There actually is a good reason the range markings are on the bottom of the rear sights. I learned this from a former combloc RPK gunner. The thing is, if you need to adjust your sights, you either have to raise your head up and look down on the rifle, or lift the muzzle up. I you are being shot at, or want to not be seen, neither of these things are a good idea. Hence, you lift the sight up and adjust it while your head is still low behind the rifle and safe. No need to even go off target.
@aruthorcarly5 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail has mosaic .
@yucannthahvitt2515 жыл бұрын
Probably to avoid youtube censorbots deleting the video.
@drewallen70285 жыл бұрын
#blurstica
@StanislavG.5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Ian talked about it in a video. Fucking Google...
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum49065 жыл бұрын
The day I decided to buy a 98k, the Gun Jesus posted a video on 98k... praise the lord!!!! Btw, I see a Yugo refurbed Mauser 98k with a second recoil lug just behind the bolt handle, but I can't find other examples. Is it possible that is a user modification?
@lwilton5 жыл бұрын
Just from a "what rifle would I like in my hands" point of view, I'd say that they should have had something between the second and third models. The stock should be finished and there should be a cleaning rod. But the various stamping simplifications make a lot of sense. There was also probably no reason for a bayonet mount, but that was something that almost nobody seemed to recognize until almost the end of the war.
@MtodaGee5 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, there were still bayonets produced in '45.
@lwilton5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and I think even the US made them for some time after the end of WW II. Possibly they had some use in the Pacific campaign, I think I remember reading that there was a fair amount of hand to hand fighting in that theater. But realistically, I think they were shown to have virtually no value in WW I combat, and that didn't change in WW II. But that doesn't mean that the horse cavalry officers in charge of war planning will have all retired by then.
@minuteman41995 жыл бұрын
@@lwilton The vast majority of combat rifles still have bayonets. Useless or not I would still want one.
@offchance7895 жыл бұрын
Bayonet on a rifle is still more useful than holding a knife, so USA was still issuing combat knives attachable to rifles during Vietnam.
@robiiify5 жыл бұрын
Imaging storming a building with your bolt action rifle what do you do if you shoot the first guy but one or two are still standing charge with the bayonet and get them by surprise or stand there and reload and give them a moment to organize themselfs
@jonasoberparleiter80442 жыл бұрын
About the ranges at the bottom of the sights, whilst being not needed for a small arm, it has some merit. The multi purpose machine gun of our army, the successor of the MG42, has it too and it can be very handy in certainsituations. Whilst in cover and unable to lift the rifle, or look down on it, it might be fiddely to try and get the correct settings. But you can fold it up and then see it without having to do any awkward movements and revealing your position. Is that needed on a rifle? probably not, but I can see some use in having it over not having it.
@IThinkSoMaybe5 жыл бұрын
Y’all are liars, “interesting, great vid” 5 min after a 20 min vid comes out
Get the 4x play speed plugin for whatever browser you're using, scrub.
@MianCowell5 жыл бұрын
Maybe he makes them available to patreon subscribers before they go public? Same reason some videos have lots of views a few seconds after upload.
4 жыл бұрын
1935: ooooooo fancy rifle 1944: ok ok, a little less polish but still nice none the less 1945: SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
@mansikkamies91463 жыл бұрын
Woah its schrödinger
@vincentrees49705 жыл бұрын
Mauser: Mein Gott the Russians are coming, schnell! Volksturm: (Examines rifle) Guess I'll die
@michaelpaul71445 жыл бұрын
The reason the cleaning rod was deleted is because they had transitioned to using the cleaning chain included with the issued cleaning kit in a tin, the Reinigungsgerat 34.
@thomasfamilycomesfirst83895 жыл бұрын
Great video! Now I know more about the evolution of the Kar98k. I own one 1941 Kar98k built by Berlin-Lübecker Maschinenfabrik (duv) and one Vz. 24/33 (Czech Mauser) built by Zbrojovka Brno. This rifle is a totally mess 😳 with German parts from Mauser AG Oberndorf (byf) and Johannes Grossfuss, Metall- u. Locierwarenfabrik, Doebeln, Sachsen (bpr).
@Ian_Bungy5 жыл бұрын
Ian, I recently came into contact with an FN built Moroccan police mauser carbine, it's almost impossible to find any information about it on the internet, if possible could you do a video on it?
@MrMiguella5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian one of your best videos yet.
@terminator30002 жыл бұрын
Fun fact. the guard batallion of the german bundeswehr still uses these things for ceremonial purposes. i guess they just cooler than modern rifles.
@dennis12dec2 жыл бұрын
True, the Bundeswehr's Wachbattalion or Guard Batallion of the German Armed Forces uses them as a ceremonial drill rifle, their service rifle is the Heckler and Koch G36.
@TatsukiHashida5 жыл бұрын
Can’t one shot headshot in level 3 helmet tho
@hdunn85895 жыл бұрын
Hashida Tackey wtf are you talking about
@AndyFromSears5 жыл бұрын
Only the AWM can do that
@antoniomanuelrodrigues-sz7lb Жыл бұрын
Those numbers on the underside off the rest sight, are NOT STUPID, they are for the shooter to read WILE HE HIS IN A PRONE POSITION, and then je has to move the weapon, ir explode HIS head, sem adjusting the elevation. Yan, you of all people, SHOULD KNOW THAT. KUDUS to you, and keep up the great work.
@napoleonibonaparte71985 жыл бұрын
Donate them to the Bundeswehr?
@psyk0805 жыл бұрын
Wehrmacht*
@lukepurcell21893 жыл бұрын
Even the “crude” welds they did on the ‘45 are better then welds I see today
@willykaranikolas23914 жыл бұрын
I really do find it hilarious the extent of faith every nation had in their general infantry as absolutely insane marksmen. In history, according to Wikipedia (so take it with a pinch of salt), there are only 13 recorded rifle kills beyond 1500 meters. All of which besides 1 occurred in the 21st century. So yeah, having a mass infantry rifle extend to 2000m or even beyond is funny for 1900-1945 rifles!
@hailexiao27703 жыл бұрын
It made sense before portable machine guns and mortars were a thing--a regiment shooting their rifles at another regiment 2000 meters away can do a considerable amount of damage, even if soldier #4444 killing #5555 wasn't ever recorded.
@mattjohnson77755 жыл бұрын
god that s42G is just to damn pretty
@slvpd4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a sporterized k98k. We bought it in the early 90’s. Not sure the entire history, other than that we bought it from an old hermit gunsmith in central MN. He lived alone in a small 10x20 shack where he built guns. It’s got an eagle stamped and Belgique on it. Might be a Frankenstein built from various components. It’s a great gun. It was my brothers first deer rifle and I have hunted with it every year since he passed away in 2000. I love that rifle.
@fearferocity19475 жыл бұрын
"Bayonets are impractical at the near end of the war" Japanese soldier: Well yes, but actually no
@Mr2ndAmendment5 жыл бұрын
I got a bnz 45 Kriegsmodell and a S/42G and they both shoot pretty excellent. I agree that you're really not getting any less of a rifle (from a practical standpoint) between the early war and "last ditch" K98k. Really just machining marks, fit and finish, and stamped versus milled as you point out, but accuracy-wise and general durability of the rifle, you got no real differences that change much of anything. Like you pointed out, I was most aware of the Type 99 "last ditch" rifles I've seen, which of course get pretty wild with the "oh shit" factor. When I encountered my bnz 45, I was like "the Germans call this a 'last ditch' effort? Still looks pretty awesome to me." The walk through you did on these three rifles was great, thanks for another quality FW video! -Mr. 2nd
@choosetheright86545 жыл бұрын
Just woke up for this ur welcome love from Texas y’all
@choosetheright86545 жыл бұрын
Texas oh Texas!!!!!
@shawnr7715 жыл бұрын
The eyes of Texas are upon you all your live long days.
@ragingjaguarknight865 жыл бұрын
Texas our Texas, all hail the mighty state... ^_^
@ssnydess6787 Жыл бұрын
I had a '44 that I restored and found an interesting issue from my Russian bring back that many of the late 98K's laminated stocks were not finished from the factory with oil and the issues soldiers "finished" the light-colored laminated (red glue) stocks with used motorial oil, which stinks, which I found out after I stripped the cheap Russian shellac off the stock. Boy, did it stink! The really late end of war used a white colored wood glue and not the red glue and was water sensitive...
@michaelrizea31085 жыл бұрын
My favorite bolt action rifle of all time I want a 1943 production version of it because of the added improvements
@bengrosser87225 жыл бұрын
I have a mint condition dot 44
@michaelrizea31085 жыл бұрын
@@bengrosser8722 it would be cool to engrave the stock with carved filigree and stuff kind of like how muskets have that artistic engraving on them
@bengrosser87225 жыл бұрын
No no no it came out of the eagles nest it will destroy it's value
@michaelrizea31085 жыл бұрын
@@bengrosser8722 well do you know how many kar98k Mausers actually still exist and can be purchased especially here in the United States? There are literally still hundreds of them on the market possibly even thousands but the price has gone up because either people are buying them up or nobody is interested in nearly 80 year old bolt actions..... in the late 1800s when bolt action rifles were first invented Italy came out with a rifle that actually had engraved filigree on it as an artistic thing..... if I could get my hands on a decent 98k Mauser I would engrave it and dress it up like a family heirloom type thing....
@michaelrizea31085 жыл бұрын
@@bengrosser8722 also fun fact there is a minority of 98k Mauser that were purchased by the Brazilian military after World War II and they kept using them until the mid 50's as a result they tried to modernize them by professional Erie chambering them from 8 mm Mauser to American 30 odd 6 aka 30 caliber in the mid fifties they even thought of converting these rifles to Nato..... but they realize that bolt actions are out of date and sold them to America if you look hard enough you can find a 30 caliber 98k Mauser..... I want one for convenience sake because I do intend to use it as a hunting firearm