Ex-Atheist Explains What She Had Wrong About Christianity (Important Insights!)

[@wolfmand9641]

I really respect how Alex O'Connor conducts himself in these debates and discussions.

[@melissasw64]

I don't normally respect how O'Conner has conducted himself in the past. I've thought he was arrogant and disrespectful. However, in this conversation, I think he conducts himself my better.

[@young_raymond47]

I thought he was overly generous in this particular debate tbh. I am sure he was conscious of Ayaan’s struggles and didn’t want to push back too hard; he’s discussed in the past that he doesn’t enjoy the fact that he has lead people to disbelief. But I think there were reasonable pushbacks he could have given that I would have liked to hear answers for.

[@melissasw64]

@@young_raymond47 I understand that he has chosen not to believe and that he has made a name for himself defending his lack of belief in God. I’m fine with that. But he usually comes across (to me at least) as such a little twit. I spent more time listening to this discussion because he didn’t seem so ugly and arrogant.

[@RyanHarville]

@@young_raymond47 like what?

[@taranorris6493]

@@young_raymond47 What are some things you would have liked to hear answers for? Perhaps some of us can just as civilly and respectfully provide some insight.

[@HuracanST]

This was a great conversation. Love the honesty from both sides

[@SongsOfRelief]

Same here. I rarely enjoy them as much as this.

[@anniematushenko]

I was an atheist, or at least not a believer, an unbeliever from a Christian home, who just thought there was good and evil......then 2020 hit, and a person with views similar to mine on this situation, told me it was ALL predicted in the Bible, and brought me one, and I read the Word out of respect for her.... Yes this confirmed there is definitely good and evil....but so, so much more, a roadmap of humanity from beginning to end.... showing me that though I'm a sinner, I have a Saviour, who paid my debt for me, took the death sentence for me, paid my debt through the most painful and despicable death, for MY sins committed....shed HIS perfect blood to wash me clean.... and His name is Jesus Christ....and yes, everything happening today is foretold in that Old Book, the Book, God's word, the Bible. Maranatha Lord Jesus Christ, come quickly we pray 🫴✝️👑🙌♥️🙏

[@TurinTuramber]

Blood magic sacrifice? I'll pass.

[@anniematushenko]

@TurinTuramber that's your choice and God gave humanity free will, you will be in my prayers..... Because that's my free will to exercise, given by God

[@Christina6552]

Amen! ❤

[@MontanaCountryBoy406]

@@TurinTuramberMoron

[@ProdigalSon_8]

🥹🥹🥹🥹❤️❤️❤️❤️ welcome t the family 🫂❤️❤️❤️. All praise be to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ 🙏🏽❤️

[@norbertprebeck2024]

Exactly! This should be the main argument. Experiencing his presence in a loving and worshipping encounter is the best proof for his existence. To ignore his strength and wisdom does feel like imprisonment for me. I need to reach out for him in a humble and quiet, a unspectacular and mainly grateful attitude.

[@UnderWaterExploring]

but how do YOU know that HE actually means what he says? "experiencing his presence" seems to always be about one person claiming theyve experienced those things...but why would you just believe him or anyone else claiming those things??? how do you know when someone is being honest or dishonest when saying things like he said? id be willing to bet money that elon musk hasnt read very much of the bible and really has no clue what it says...he seems to be just trying to get more applause for himself and trying to appeal to a certain demographic of people, all intended to benefit HIMSELF and really nobody else.

[@ironheade22]

This would be easier to believe if there weren't countless people from countless other religions claiming the same thing. Or if there weren't countless people who have left their faith who can explain their experiences in a more rational and materialistic way

[@sean_miller]

This was the basis of my faith for 25 years. I endured a long series of very confusing experiences in which I routinely could not reconcile my revelatory experiences with actual reality. It was as if God was lying to me over and over for years until I began to lose my mind in confusion. A severe mental breakdown and years of panic attacks forced me to let go of my arrogant belief that I had some kind of connection to the divine. The loss of my faith felt as if a spouse had cheated on me and left me alone in the world. But at last I had my sanity back. The experience of God's love is mere mysticism. It's a profound, intoxicating feeling. I gave my whole life in pursuit of it thinking that I had found a transcendent truth. It was a lie. An illusion. The vast majority of devout Christians will not pursue those encounters deeply enough to see them break apart as I did. The tragedy of faith is that those who burn brightest are at a greater risk at seeing behind the curtain of religion as a whole. Most will never see or experience what I have-neither the height of religious fervor and encounter, nor the soul-crushing terror at beholding your own cosmic nakedness and fragility. Religion is a warm blanket, but it's not real.

[@sean_miller]

This was the basis of my faith for 25 years. I endured a long series of very confusing experiences in which I routinely could not reconcile my revelatory experiences with actual reality. It was as if God was lying to me over and over for years until I began to lose my mind in confusion. A severe mental breakdown and years of panic attacks forced me to let go of my arrogant belief that I had some kind of connection to the divine. The loss of my faith felt as if a spouse had cheated on me and left me alone in the world. But at last I had my sanity back. The experience of God's love is mere mysticism. It's a profound, intoxicating feeling. I gave my whole life in pursuit of it thinking that I had found a transcendent truth. It was a lie. An illusion. The vast majority of devout Christians will not pursue those encounters deeply enough to see them break apart as I did. The tragedy of faith is that those who burn brightest are at a greater risk at seeing behind the curtain of religion as a whole. Most will never see or experience what I have--neither the height of religious fervor and encounter, nor the soul-crushing terror at beholding your own cosmic nakedness and fragility. Religion is a warm blanket, but it's not real.

[@Chazd1949]

Alex is a very intelligent young man. He expresses himself candidly and with epistemic humility. I've enjoyed his dialogs with William Lane Craig and others. He does seem to be moving in the right direction. We Christians need to pray for him.

[@stevensteven3417]

He is not moving anywhere, he does not believe in god and will not. He will never be moved by feelings, it feels good so it must be true. Pray all you want, it wont change it. Its like praying for somebody to believe in your version of Santa Claus. If anything Gnostics had it right.

[@joepowers5885]

@@stevensteven3417you keep spewing that. This comment will not age well…

[@TheSwauzz]

@@stevensteven3417 He will always be moving in some direction or the other. That is part of being human. I do think it's a bit presumptuous to pray for his conversion, but it's much more harmless than you insulting people's beliefs simply because you don't agree.

[@Jenabelovedofjesus]

@@Chazd1949 agreed, praying he finds comfort and answers in Christ, in Jesus name.

[@stevensteven3417]

@@joepowers5885 it will age very well do not worry.

[@clintonhowes6651]

I really like that analogy! Island vs map of Island. Brilliant.

[@Walu3]

until he says that if someone believes they have talked to God and believes their prayers have been answered, that is proof that there is a God, laughable.

[@clintonhowes6651]

@Walu3 agreed. It's not realistic to expect someone that's only seen the map, to believe that it's a real place, just because someone else has been there. I get it. I also didn't believe any of it for many years. And also found it all quite laughable, until I actually took the time to understand what I was laughing at. I'm not laughing anymore. Make an effort to go see the island, less time poking holes in the map 🤙🏼

[@felixfortis4304]

One of your best wrap-ups, thanks for sharing 👍

[@markdagley4213]

What's more the person who has set foot on the island can now explore the island. Whereas the person with the map can only see what has been recorded on the map, at best, or nothing if he has discarded the map.

[@stevensteven3417]

nobody set foot on the island, you all still hold the map.

[@ggpt9641]

In addition, the very existence of a map implies an explorer who made the map too.

[@markdagley4213]

@@ggpt9641 ab And so the existence of the world implies what?

[@markdagley4213]

@@stevensteven3417 Pretty bold statement. So on what basis do you make the faith statement that nobody has set foot on the island?

[@SpaceEagle93]

Hearing that ending part by John was powerful and made my almost cry feeling Gods acceptance and knowing he was knocking waiting for me to answer, so glad I have let Him in!!! PRAISE JESUS and may Jordan turn his life over and verbally accept the Lord in public.

[@karloxgc45]

CS Lewis describes atheism very well in Narnia: The Last Battle as the dwarves who entered the place where Aslan was but couldn’t see how beautiful the place was because they decided neither to side with Aslan or Tash. “The dwarves are for themselves” became their slogan. But one dwarf, Poggin dared to doubt his clan’s doubt and went to king Tirian’s side, and though still carrying his doubts about Aslan, he still stepped out to where he thought he had the best chance of finding out the truth. Alex could be a Poggin in the making. Ms. Ali, just like the late Nabeel Qureshi is our Emeth who somehow found God in the most unlikely of places.

[@simontemplar3359]

RIP Nabeel. May Christ raise him up in glory when He returns!

[@SusanVaughan-t2e]

@@simontemplar3359 He’s in glory now - well catch up sooner or later❤️

[@jeffwestbrooke279]

Isn't the refusal of the possibility of an all powerful God a closed minded position?

[@scillyautomatic]

Right. I think that was Alex's point.

[@grantjepson1735]

That's a great point

[@DM-dk7js]

Not if there’s no evidence to warrant such possibility.

[@grantjepson1735]

@DM-dk7js the word possibility though seems pretty open itself. To say there is no possibility for something is what actually requires a lot of evidence.

[@DM-dk7js]

@@grantjepson1735 yeah I mean, it’s hard NOT to consider that possibility living in America, among other places. It’s practically mandated as a true-by-default “possibility”, Christianity that is. Obviously, throughout all history this has been the case, religion and society are hugely connected. This isn’t anything controversial. It’s just a matter of fact. Nothing new or profound, to say religion and society go hand in hand. It’s forced down our throats, to be frank. So it’s been considered. Me personally as an atheist didn’t just reject the possibility without heavy consideration. I was expected to believe by default, by society. I went through a LOT of consideration.

[@sequoia689]

We are much more complex than this physical world we see.

[@Adam-gl1qv]

Completely baseless claim

[@Joshua-m2z9f]

@@Adam-gl1qv so you look forward to not existing at all? Awesome, I hope you’re wrong……. I would like to see my father and my sister again. Guess you hope I don’t…. That sucks

[@UnderWaterExploring]

straight up nonsense, as if you are trying to appear profound without showing you are

[@kavuela]

@@Adam-gl1qv depends on what you would find baseless.

[@collinfox631]

@Adam-gl1qv Do you believe in morals? Because if humans are purely physical, then why don't the most powerful people in the world just completely take over? What are good and evil? Where do they come from? Are they just human constructs, and if so, where do ideas like taboo come from? They aren't enforced by law but are still generally accepted as wrong. I'm not sure if this is a rejection of Christianity or just this one idea, but I'm very curious what you have to back up your statement.

[@dawnhero6439]

Those were bars at the end my friend. Great job.

[@jessicakopecky7230]

Uh… was that a special effect at 11:35 to enhance the Matrix comment or should I stop watching KZbin at night?

[@gordonicus4637]

Both such thoughtful people. I pray that Alex opens his heart to the Lord one day, as Ayaan has done.❤

[@Asgard2208]

Until we repent and are reborn we are all atheists of some form. Ayaan Hirsi Ali mentioned the arrogance of atheism, and here I think she is on point. Atheism exhibits the arrogance of certainty! It is dogmatic, unwilling to cede even the most elementary notion that we are not all knowing, and that consequently we might be wrong. Resolute, dogmatic arrogance. Christians, on the other hand, and speaking as a former atheist, are constantly in flux. We have all experienced uncertainty, a total lack of conviction, and fear that we're wrestling to meet standards that can never be met. It's a battle, every day. The one thing I always try to say to atheists is this: as a Christian I can conceded that if I am wrong and there is no God, then I'm wrong and maybe wasted my life in worthless devotion, but ultimately I have lost nothing. Time maybe. Atheists on the other hand, well, if they're wrong and the Bible is exactly what it says it is and God is who He says He is, then they lose everything. Their soul, their connection to God. Everything. Total eternal damnation. That's one hell of a wager!

[@kevinkelly2162]

If Pascals wager makes you a christian, then instead of singing hymns in church you should be singing that old ABBA song, 'Take a chance on me'.

[@almightyzentaco]

Or maybe you also pay a price for believing that God is the sort of God who would condemn the majority of his creation to Hell. Our beliefs shape how we understand and interact with the world. We all pay a price for our belief.

[@Asgard2208]

@@almightyzentaco God condemns no one. He gives us free will, and we make our choices, and as such we condemn ourselves. Salvation was given to us through Jesus Christ. It is free to all. Believe in Him, repent your sins, and you are forgiven. It is a gift because there is nothing you can do to earn God's forgiveness. But if we choose to stand with the enemy He grants our wish, but we pay the price spiritually.

[@tomlaureys1734]

Asgard. That's Pascal's wager.

[@tomlaureys1734]

Almighty Zentaco. We can only condemn ourselves. We have a free will to choose good or choose evil.

[@kelyne10]

Hey Brandon, your clock needs a new battery, (this comment is for interaction purposes ONLY).. All jokes aside, thanks for your content, just discovered you today and I'm now on a binge... Thanks Luigi, ciao🙃

[@scillyautomatic]

This is not the first time Brandon has mentioned the Red Pill analogy. I love that analogy. It is so fitting. One might be able to conceive of a world where truth is revealed but until you take the red pill, your eyes are never truly open.

[@thefuturist8864]

The red pill analogy doesn't work. If I give you a pill and tell you that *whatever* you see after taking it is 'reality' (as it 'really is) why should you believe it when you see it? What guarantee do you have that the pill is what I say it is? We have no guarantee that anything written in any religious book ought to be believed.

[@cyturtle]

The Red Pill (and the “Matrix” series itself) is in fact a reference to the life of Christ! The woman responsible for the story the script was adapted from has said as much!

[@DM-dk7js]

@@cyturtle it’s actually about their story of becoming trans.

[@DM-dk7js]

@@cyturtle The Matrix is literally a TRANS allegory by trans people. How silly of yall. The Wachowskis, the directors, are TRANS and have said such. It’s NOT about Jesus. It’s about being trans. And they themselves are trans.

[@cyturtle]

@ they are trans, but they included Judeo-Christian themes in the screenplay. There is literally a main character named “Trinity.” I don’t think I’m reading too hard into it.

[@SM-fq4fw]

Incredible explanation at the end. Thank you!

[@TheJudasrising86]

unreason....what a great way to put it

[@the_if_then_fallacy]

Beautiful message brother. Succinct and poignant. Thanks for your continued efforts to glorify the Lord

[@young_raymond47]

Alex is not a Christian in the making. I know it excites Christians to think that an atheist is going to “see the light”; I was very much that kind of person once. But while Alex is as generous as they come to the theistic cohort, it is incredibly apparent to me that there is no conversion on the horizon; at least not one that is self actualised. He’s clearly very comfortable with the thoughts that disturb a lot of people to the extent that they cannot exist as atheist. Thoughts like there being no free will, that there is no purely selfless good deed, that we have no ultimate purpose etc. I’ve seen how soul-destroying such considerations are for a lot of people and have often been met with extreme hostility for merely suggesting them in the past. Someone who is comfortable with these ideas is not a prime candidate for a grand conversion to theism. Listen to Ayaan telling her story and it’s clear that she was clearly unable to live like that which had her going theough a personal crisis. That’s not something that is apparent when you hear Alex discuss these things. I wouldn’t be fooled by his generosity towards christian apologetics. I think he largely does it to be as good faith as possible during discussions and while I believe him in saying that he would prefer to believe in god, that doesn’t mean he’s going to have a penny drop moment. Unless you are suggesting that you are convinced god will reveal themself to him, but I suspect that’s not what you are referring to. Anyone would be convinced by that after all. The idea that there is a “seed of christianity” in him is not the case.

[@melissasw64]

Interesting thoughts. I have no idea if Alex will ever acquiesce and it doesn’t seem likely to me. God already has revealed Himself and Alex has chosen to willfully disregard Him. I’m a Christian and I am commanded by my creator to love my neighbor even if he is an arrogant twit like Alex. So I hope that by some miracle, Alex may have a change of heart. It doesn’t seem likely to me, but you never know.

[@young_raymond47]

@@melissasw64 I'm not sure what gives you the impression that he is arrogant. I find that he engages people in the best of faith (in my opinion even more than is warranted sometimes). I find the idea that atheists are people who have had god revealed to them but wilfully ignore it is a cop-out. I don't even think you can be considered an atheist if you have been made aware of god's existence but reject god anyways. It wouldn't mean that you are any less aware of god's existence. I think at best you can say that they are ignorant, but not wilfully so, but if that is your argument then I'd still take exception to this because an omniscient god would know exactly what level of evidence would be required to convince someone that god is real. Some people are naturally more skeptical of things than others and everyone interprets information differently. Like you, I am doubtful that Alex will simply have a change of heart. I think him and I are in the same position. I would love to be able to say that I know god to be true, but I simply am not convinced. That's not a choice; it's my reality. I do not see myself waking up one day and suddenly all the arguments that failed to convince me all of a sudden do the trick, it would take some sort of experience, which is in god's hands. I used to pray heavily for such an experience, but I don't really care anymore tbh.

[@melissasw64]

@@young_raymond47 There is only one reality. After hearing what the Bible has to say, as well as what other more knowledgeable people have said about it, I have chosen to believe. I’m assuming you have at least some knowledge of the Bible and you have chosen not to believe. The reality is the same, but our responses to it are different.

[@young_raymond47]

@ That’s a terrible way to look at it. And yes, I was raised Christian and believed it for about 21 years of my life. Looking back, Christianity was absolutely a net negative in my life, but I believed it to be true which is why I didn’t consider any alternative for a long time. I have several issues with what you’ve said, again coming from my experience having been raised a Christian. Reading the bible is a completely different experience when you are a theist versus when you are an atheist. I’ve done both so I know this first hand. Reading it when you are already certain that whatever you will be reading is a matter of fact, your brain will always work to reconcile whatever you read with what you believed before, so of course it will reinforce your belief. Reading it when you don’t assume it to be fact, it’s a lot more disturbing to say the least. I’ve read passages that are so horrendous which I genuinely don’t remember reading before. My brain must have simply blocked them out because it simply couldn’t reconcile slavery, genocide etc. with the god that I was taught about in church. The idea that the opinions of people smarter than oneself holds any significant value is overstated. I don’t think authority figures have any significant impact on people’s opinion unless the individual is already questioning things themself. For example I doubt there is a well-studied, highly renowned atheist that could convince you to even question your belief. It is far too simplistic to say that we read the same text and I rejected the “truth” while you accepted it. Our methodology for assessing what is true is no doubt completely different as are our lived experiences which inform how we interpret information.

[@melissasw64]

@ So you give no credit to someone who has read and studied something more than you have? That doesn’t seem like a very useful way to live. If you give no credit to what other, more knowledgeable people have said, then you are left to rely on your own experience. Other than that, I have no response to your comment, Raymond. I wish you the best of luck.

[@joeyspinelli4906]

Simply, beautiful.

[@alexandresilva3427]

I'm an atheist but I don't make it part of my personality, nor do I take a stance of superiority. A lot of atheists seem to think that Christians are backwards or dumb but that's false. Even if I don't believe in the miracles and the magic, I still think the lessons you can take from the Bible are good and true. Even though I can't bring myself to believe, I'm still grateful that a lot of people still do, as most free and functioning societies have been born from this tradition. Alex's argument was a solid one, exposing the logical inconsistency of the empyricists (everyone "believes" in something). I also think that the Christian insistence in trying to prove gods existence is futile and hipocrytical. If god existance is something you can prove, you wouldn't need faith. And if you need to argue gods existance maybe you don't really believe.

[@tiger-t3u]

You cannot prove or disprove the existence of god. But one thing can be said: An all-powerful, all-loving god contradicts reality.

[@alexandresilva3427]

@@tiger-t3u That's precisely why you can't argue against his existance nor can you argue someone into believing him. If at the end of the day god is all powerfull and beyond our comprehention like you say, you can only have faith and trust that he's on our side.

[@tiger-t3u]

@@alexandresilva3427 look, my morality is better than the morality of a god who watches innocent children die from diseases and natural catastrophes, for which he himself would be responsible. I don’t owe him anything, not even my life, because I never asked him in the first place.

[@Little_tad]

Christians tend to see proof everywhere though (eg, nature, the complexity of nature, the wisdom of the salvation plan, the balance of social laws (some people call it karma), evidence of biblical events, surprising Bible codes, the fulfillment of prophecies, personalexperiences).

[@tiger-t3u]

@ The reason why I do not fear the supernatural/metaphysical realm is, because it contains an endless number of gods or things, none of which can be proven/disproven. And because it is impossible for me to do justice to all of them, I only worry about the things for which there is evidence. You could literally be wrong about Zeus or the Mayan gods or any other god yet to be invented, yet people chose to fear the Christian god without ever having seen him, which applies btw to all 2 billion Christians on this planet.

[@Riku_addict]

"Don't fight hate with hate fight moustache with moustache!" - moustache man

[@manueljoaquim7485]

wow, you island analogy was beautiful, and makes total sense to me. after almost 20 years, I can still remember what I felt, and the changes I went through when I came to Christ, it shocked me to my core, and now all the external evidence for God, just confirms what I believe now. It is hard to explain, but think of it like this, God gave me a moment in time, when he removed all my doubts, and I saw the complete truth, almost like at warp speed, and all the veils of doubts and shades of uncertainties, were removed. I remember how surprised I was because all the years of hearing about Christ it never sunk in like that. I remember thinking, wow all my life I have been hearing the truth, but I never saw it as the truth, but I only saw it as a story. but now it was more than a story, it was reality and I was in the middle of it all, or maybe I should say Christ was in the middle of it all. but it only lasted for a few minutes, and I remember thinking why just a few minutes, why not the rest of my life, please lord give it back to me. but then almost like an internal answer came to me. that I needed to keep looking and finding the path to the destination. like your analogy , I knew about the Island, now I needed to search of a way , on how to get there. and that what life is, a journey to get to the final destination.

[@ThePlagueGameing]

Please watch the Unseen Realm by Dr Michael Heiser. It will connect the dots for many. Thanks.❤😊

[@katee7446]

I found Dr Heiser's work extremely helpful. (I prefer his books with footnotes personally, especially the Unseen Realm). Alex in conversation with Dr Heiser would be have been extremely compelling.

[@chloemartel9927]

There is a lot wrong with Heiser's thinking. ​@@katee7446

[@Riku_addict]

Dear Christians good job not interacting in useless arguments with the atheist s in the comment section. Prioritize your peace, the truth doesn't need to be justified. Remember, *Proverbs 12:15:* “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes". Have a blessed day brothers and sisters in Christ ✝️💜

[@jacon3514]

@Riku_addict you seem very close minded

[@Little_tad]

@Riki_addict I would but I haven't seen anything yet.

[@weepz]

I love the intro music!

[@eensio]

The open mindness and closed mindness has variation in a single life. Our dependence from the group is not standard. We have not understood for a long time the meaning of ”nothing”. It does not mean emptyness.

[@LarryParksRealtor]

Brandon what do you think about intellectual conversion? Is it conversion at all???????

[@LarryParksRealtor]

Love the Plato reference to strengthen your position. Everyone should be convinced what Ayaan said after your explanation. Good job brother.

[@glennshrom5801]

John 8.32 is often cited as an if-then statement: If you know the truth, then you will be set free. It is actually two "then" clauses of the three "then clauses" introduced by the "if" clause in verse 31: To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “IF you hold to my teaching, [then] you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and [then] the truth will set you free.” This opens up a whole new can of worms about why some people don't know the truth and aren't set free. It's because they don't accept what Jesus teaches about Himself to begin with. I had long thought it was the other way around, that we had to know the truth so that we could accept Jesus' teaching. It's actually vice versa. We have to accept his teaching if we are to be his disciples and know the truth. The freedom, in the following verses, is explained as a freedom from sin. John 7.17 is a similar cause and effect that I long was getting backwards. If we choose to do God's will, we will know if Jesus' teaching comes from God. I used to think that if we know Jesus' teaching comes from God, that we would then choose to do God's will. It seems from Jesus' words that a heart disposition or orientation comes before a mental realization. We should be careful, however, not to read "truth" as though it means "reliable ideas", when it could actually turn out to have more significance as "reliable promises" or "reliable person". It may be more about the personal God we can count on, than about the ideas we can know to be correct.

[@MrVeryfrost]

Believers still can't fix the problem that any earliest existing NT manuscripts do not guarantee they were not altered.

[@Nomadestra1776]

Do you have evidence that they were?

[@MrVeryfrost]

@@Nomadestra1776 Yes, multiple manuscripts omit or include different information and contradictions. Without knowing the original information it's impossible to tell how much current information is right.

[@vukjovanovicofficial]

@@Nomadestra1776 Lmfao, perfect response.

[@grumpycrumbles7360]

I have lost a great deal of respect for Alex when in a recent debate he stated that he won't criticize islam, because he fears for his safety. So attacking Christianity, which will not retaliate is fine, but an actual violent ideology that is taking over Britain (Alex is British) is off limits? If he genuinely thinks religion causes harm in a society he should start with the religion that is ACTUALLY threatening people's lives and not Christianity!!

[@smidlee7747]

He is an atheist so it's makes a lot of sense for him not to risk his life. It's like what the ex-kgb Yuri Bezmenov said once "no one will die for "2+2=4" even though it's true. No one who stand and say shoot me I will defend 2+2=4" Because atheist are spiritually dead they can't stand against evil but only leaves a vacuum for evil to replace that which is good. Richard Dawkins have realized Christianity resisted something much worst in his view while atheism have very little resistance toward Islam.

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

​@smidlee7747 Are you asserting that evil is a _reality?_

[@Nomadestra1776]

​@@Theo_SkeptomaiIf someone slaps you in the face, is that a good or an evil action? And why?

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

@@Nomadestra1776 Well, it's not a "good action", but it isn't grounds for accepting some mystical quality called "Evil". It's just ... not good.

[@tiger-t3u]

Even Christians have persecuted not only people of other religions but also people of their own faith throughout history. If you think Christianity is innocent, think again.

[@jakesenkow7684]

Also -the Christian faith is a product of the GIFT of revelation. This is information that we were completely incapable of attaining by merit. As such, Christian confidence is founded on something outside the believer and not something of which one can arrogantly boast.

[@IlligetimiNonCarborundum]

How small and sad a thing is a mind that conceive of nothing greater than itself.

[@someonesomeone25]

Pretty sure atheists can conceive of things greater than themselves. I can.

[@home8630]

Jesus said when you love one another then they will know that you follow Him, and you believe in God. Love acknowledges existence.

[@kairicoyour1030]

What if the "encounter" we have with God is false? What if it's just a faulty feeling? To explain why I feel this way, I grew up in a church where many people had "messages" and "revelations" from God, but they were most often false and made me and many of the people around me feel worthless, guilt-trip us, and slowly make us feel unlovable. It's very hard for me to accept this argument, because feelings (at least I've seen in my life) can be wrong. I am open to discussing the topic more, though, if anyone has some insight?

[@Jayys647]

The topic you are talking about is " feelings " ? May i ask if you believe in something ?

[@kairicoyour1030]

@Jayys647 I could be wrong in that that was the main topic of the video, I just saw some other people talking about it in the comments. I doubted God for 3 years but recently I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that Christianity is the most plausible.

[@Jayys647]

@@kairicoyour1030 so in what did u believe before coming to this conclusion

[@kairicoyour1030]

@@Jayys647 Christianity

[@juanittaariassuarez3517]

Personally, I understand you. I grew up Christian, I was part of the worship band and I just followed because it felt good, maybe because I have a very people pleasant personality and oftentimes, church is just the right place for people like me. But I always lacked the "conversion" part, the part that truly makes you be guided by the Spirit. And just up until recently I actually had a "revelation" that all that I was hearing, singing in church and in the Bible es ACTUALLY TRUE. It was a supernatural experience reading the Bible, even tough, as I told you, I grew up "doing" the Christian things. It's just like when a person looks at the sunset and they just "KNOW" the sunset was created by God, or the same thing, when a person looks at the starry sky and just "KNOWS" that there is no meaning, or purpose or God... I believe from personal experience that there's is a difference between feeling something is true and actually knowing something is true. To come from "I say this things with my lips" to "I pull out truths from my heart".

[@johnrowland9570]

In Jesus time there were synagogue schools. Children went to them at 4 or 5 years old. Due to conquests by Alexander the whole region spoke Greek. Jewish children would have Aramaic as a home language. If a person was illiterate scribes were available. Apart from this the oral tradition was very accurate. Memory was very well trained and also accurate. I have experienced this in South Africa where I live. 4:32

[@oldol12]

Why do people still assume, that we christians just believe without evidence. Similar to the Bible "we" have prophets, recorded miracle healings , testimonies of people describing similar NDE experiences and etc...

[@niklaswikstrom78]

Because you do. There is 0 evidence for any miracles or gods. You use no critical thinking - or a very warped version of it, where you contort yourselves to fit ridiculous stone-age myths into something you can convince yourselves to believe

[@DM-dk7js]

@oldol12 absolutely no such thing as miracle healings. There are, however, faith healing scams tho.

[@stevensteven3417]

and non of it is evidence.

[@oldol12]

@stevensteven3417 it's Christmas soon! I' ll pray for you, no need to be gloomy:).

[@YuelSea-sw2rp]

@oldol12 The atheist thinks that if they do not know that God then nobody else does either. The atheist thinks that if they do not have evidence that God exists then nobody else does either. They really believe this. They do not think it is irrational to think this way even though they do not have any evidence to support their position.

[@NeoGeoFitness]

Unfortunately, nothing in this video proves anything. Perhaps, that's not the intention. However, analogies, metaphors, etc doesn't prove the Biblical claims. Someone having an 'experience' with some diety would at best, be considered subjective. What we're looking for is the objective. Believing that there's 'more' out there or that something or someone transcends us isn't the biggest issue. The biggest issue is believing the claims of a contradictory Bible, worshipping a diety who does horrible things and claiming you have the absolute truth. And Alex will never become a Christian, so he's not heading in the 'right' direction or anything like that. He has categorically exposed Christianity so many times already. But because he's an honest guy, he's willing to have conversations with others so that people understand other people who see things differently without ridiculing or shaming them.

[@deebee731]

The analogy of an island is brilliantly parallelled in the beginning part of G K Chesterton's 'The Everlasting Man'. This is highly recommended and thanks for this fantastic podcast.

[@palmtree554]

Alex is doing a lot more help to Christianity than perhaps he realizes. In this clip alone, he's dismantling so many of those ignorant, toxic Christian stereotypes that people cling to to "rationalize" their disbelief. Atheist, if you've already decided to plug your ears to us, listen to one of your own...

[@redgey5163]

I'm sorry. Am I freaking out or dose the video glitch significantly when he mentioned the "red pill"? 😅

[@gustavopena5032]

I have given my faith alot thought, but there’s something that science can’t give me, peace in my soul, spirit, mind

[@lordgizmor1376]

The conversation is quite interesting. Although I disagree with the arrogance part of Mrs Alis argument. It's true for both sides, would be my contention. The conclusion of the author is troublesome because his analogies are generally wrong. It's not an experience of reality when a person of faith has an encounter of one kind or the other. It's personal experience and more akin to a dream. So it doesn't make sense to say the faithful experience reality more apt then an atheist. The opposite is true.

[@dane4265]

Alex will never become a Christian, he's studied it so knows that it is nonsense. He's very good at ironmanning another persons position.

[@colinpierre3441]

He probably didn't finish studying it, because he keeps brining up the same Biblical "issues" that have been explained by scholars over and over again.

[@dane4265]

@@colinpierre3441 you mean apologists, he has a degree in theology and philosophy I believe. Which is probably more than the apologist you listen to, you know the ones that are just saying what you want to hear to ease your conscience because the god of the bible is thoroughly evil, with baby murder, rape, genocide, slavery to his teachings.

[@jimfarnell5813]

Has the subject of apologetics is raised, it saddens me that the vast majority of local pastors and pew sitters find themselves in intellectual neutral… That is to say, they dismiss any intellectual enterprise and support of the Bible in general and the gospel in particular… They teach their children WHAT to believe but not the WHY… they themselves cannot explain why they believe except to say “the Bible tells me so”… When I discuss the gospel, I share my conviction of the infinite work of Jesus of Nazareth on the cross, and and the historicity of his resurrection three days later… Then I can explain by appealing to the body apologetic why I believe in the literal, historical, physical resurrection of that same Jesus after being in tuned for three days in a stone sepulcher… my faith is based entirely on the objective evidence…

[@tiger-t3u]

Religion isn’t about morality. It’s about people’s selfish desire for their own wellbeing, their desire for immortality. If it were about morality, they would condemn a god who intentionally created a world in which 50% of children died from diseases and natural catastrophes.

[@smidlee7747]

You are assuming naturalism is true and death is the end. God is not nature nor can you "know" God through nature since by definition He is outside time, space and matter.

[@tiger-t3u]

@@smidlee7747 why do you make moral assumptions about god? He seems to violate his own moral principles

[@smidlee7747]

@@tiger-t3u Where did you get this revelation? Not from nature. In nature you own nothing including your own life.

[@tiger-t3u]

@@smidlee7747 There’s no conscious experience after death

[@tiger-t3u]

@ It is difficult to have a conversation when YT deletes most of the comments

[@MichaelVandeventer-c3q]

What is more complex than material like what is the limit of materials complexity I can't imagine there is one

[@TheMadmacs]

the trouble is, if you take everything theists claim to be true, then the facts support that they have no idea what it is they believe in. that is to say, trying to define god is an impossible task, and a dishonest task when it comes to grouping people into particular faiths. for example do you really want to go to a heaven of christianity knowing all other faiths go to hell? is that a thing you can spend eternity with? of course not. so that means christianity is wrong, wrong about something huge and important. i'm sure you could do the same with most other organised faiths. my objections to religion are that humans are susceptable to superstition, and avoiding the reality of the human condition and predicament. those attributes are being exploited, for one reason or another, not all bad. so, if youre faith is poorly defined, nebulus even, thats ok, but how much of it is rooted in the stories and our susceptable nature to these stories and how much is a genuine logic and instinctive reaction to the predicament.

[@robmangeri777]

9:52 “once you’ve met God on HIS TERMS” is HUGE! I think this is what is missing for most people who have doubts about God. Just for fun at 11:34 the video glitches at a curious point in the video ;)

[@derickhoward9833]

What i find fascinating about these comments is how truely everyone was seemingly hoping that Ayaan would convince them toward god. Take the fact that this was never Ayanns intention. Then take the fact that all of Alex' most popular videos are on this subject of "maybe this guest will convince me tho i doubt it" its fascinating because it shows that you are ALL hoping deep down to have an awnser for something you believe in already. If you didnt believe it you wouldnt concern yourself. But thats the thing. you know its the truth. You just dont like it. So analyze these comments. Take a look. They are all saying "this doesnt make me feel good about believeing in god" 😂

[@conor.3875]

Reeaach...

[@someonesomeone25]

I went from Christian to materialist nihilist satanist. I have more comfort, peace, joy, hope, and pleasure now.

[@MbispingFan]

@someonesomeone25 Nihilism and hope don't go together. I became a nihilist not by choice but by belief that life was truly meaningless. I lost all hope in anything including religion. The truth of Jesus is the only thing that kept me alive.

[@someonesomeone25]

@MbispingFan I certainly have more hope as a nihilist than I did as a Christian. As a Christian my life was doomed to self-denial, persecution, and guilt with a future of tribulation, apocalypse, billions in eternal torment, and the possibility I was unelect and damned too. I was a meaningless cog in service of a murderous cosmic tyrant who had instantiated a cannibalistic cult of human blood sacrifice to appease his anger at a minority of his own children who I had to worship for eternity whilst relatives burned in hell. I had to pray and never have my prayers answered, study scripture and yet never find truth, and go to church to be told how much of a miserable sinner I was multiple times a week. As a nihilist I'm freed from guilt, hell, cognitive dissonance, self-denial, superstition, false beliefs, and wasted time and money. Life is good.

[@MbispingFan]

@someonesomeone25 Sounds like you are describing willful ignorance. You are looking at all the bad things when you should focus on the good

[@YuelSea-sw2rp]

@@someonesomeone25 *I certainly have more hope as a nihilist than I did as a Christian.* Then you got Christianity wrong. There is no other explanation. Unfortunately there are many like that.

[@someonesomeone25]

@MbispingFan The good was overshadowed by the bad. Again, it's just my lived experience. I'm happier now, more at peace now, have more hope now. Christianity wasn't good for me.

[@BeyondDeath868]

*To whoever is reading this, I pray that the pain you are hiding will be healed by God's light. May the pain and confusion disappear now. May peace and hope find you. Amen.*

[@anniematushenko]

Amen and AMEN 🙏 🙌 ✝️ 👑 ❤️ 🙏

[@mehoyminoy2904]

Matthew 6:5-6

[@johnrowland9570]

Matthew, Mark and most certainly John was an eyewitness to the resurrection of Jesus 1Corinthians 15 tells of 500 people meeting with the risen Jesus at one event. 1Cor was written in approximately 55 AD about 22 years after Jesus' resurrection. He really did rise from the dead.

[@tiger-t3u]

The gospels were written in Greek, a language foreign to the fishermen who supposedly followed Jesus. The followers of Jesus were primitive peasants who likely couldn’t read and write, like most people 2000 years ago. The people who wrote down the gospels did so because they had heard stories which were passed down to them through oral tradition. Even Paul wasn’t an eyewitness of Jesus resurrection and his vision doesn’t count as evidence. Anyone can claim to have a vision.

[@DaysofElijah317]

When a person dies and the people who mourn them experience significant loss we know more intimately that they were more than biological impulses encased in meat suits; and their lives are diminished by their passing.

[@vladimirimp]

I have a lot to say to this. But I'm going to start with the island metaphor at the end. Do you know the difference between a story about someone visiting an island and a person relaying their experience with God? In the first case we know that islands exist. The land is the same as the land we all stand on. It's plausible because it's nearly identical to our daily experience. There aren't millions of people arguing about which island was real. There aren't wars fought because the island one person describes is not the same as another. I don't have my children being told that they MUST accept the existence of the island or they won't go to heaven. No-one is telling my government that my wife shouldn't have healthcare because they once visited an island. The consequences of you believing in this island or not are negliable to me. Your story about your 'experience' with God is not convincing. It doesn't even convince other people who also believe in a god, albeit a different one to you. That's right. Another person who also believes in a god, in prayer, in an afterlife, in a creator and in absolute morality DOESN'T believe your 'experience' because their belief is different. So why are you turning this against atheists? Of course we're open minded, that's how we got out. And all we do is look at the claims and reject them. We still see beauty, we still seek knowledge, we still feel moved and love and empathy. Just like the Daily Dose says of Alex O'Connor, atheists are open to becoming Christians. So by definition we're open minded. It's bizarre that apologists wrestling with doubt is held up as evidence of their open-mindedness! You know what open-mindedness would look like? When they struggle with contradictions they change their hypothesis. The reason they wrestle is because it doesn't make sense. Then they try inventing new explanations to make sense of the contradictions and logical problems PURELY to preserve the starting belief that there's a god. That's the opposite of open-mindedness. That's someone bending the world to fit their fixed belief.

[@davidhunt313]

*_Is predation in nature by God's Will?_* Which Abrahamic religion is true while the others are false?

[@learnafrikaans9824]

Every person who honestly seeks the truth, eventually finds the Truth. John 14:6

[@someonesomeone25]

Clearly untrue.

[@constantin194]

You're doing a great job thanks! I suggest you take some part of this atheist chanel and you analyse it! God bless you!

[@planktonuser660]

Idk why there so much on an emphasis on physical evidence when we believe in a lot of things without ever seeing physical proof in. And it’s not smart either to say “we just know” or “we can assume” Dark matter Dark energy The conscious mind Time The future The human aura The concept of infinity

[@joannware6228]

"must you also weary my God? Therefore the Lord himself will give you this sign: the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall name him Emmanuel." Is 7

[@The-Carpenter]

We simply cannot come to a position of certainty in an immeasurable ocean of knowledge. Given that we cannot know everything, it makes more sense to say: I am not sure, rather than God does not exist. A believer first comes to believe because of the book of nature: creation needs a creator. The atheist rejects this very simple premise. The atheist also then goes to great lengths to dismiss history. That's willful ignorance to me.

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

What are you asserting has been created?

[@skippy675]

Creation needs a creator. The Qur'an requires a Qur'an writer. God requires a God maker.

[@The-Carpenter]

@skippy675 God requires a God maker? Can you explain?

[@The-Carpenter]

@Theo_Skeptomai Please elaborate your question?

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

@@The-Carpenter You mentioned a creation need a creator. Is it not also true that a 'creator' needs a 'creation'?

[@CaryChilton]

intelligent commentary❤ I don't find O'Connor to have very good arguments he just has the same he says the same thing just like any atheist : I don't see your God, prove it. It's a stupid argument. it's a stupid as, blindfolding a skeptic ..playing some music on a remote.. Stopping the music taking off the blindfold and asking them if they believe in music they're gonna say show me the music or I won't believe it it's not quite like that but it's kind of like that isn't it… One has to have an experience or relationship with God and then only comes on Gods terms, And God is not pushy at all maybe in rare cases you see somebody in their testimony we just wanted nothing more than to die quickly and God intervenes how do you see the breakdown but it doesn't happen often

[@vdmerwejo]

As Christ explains in Matthew 13, Christians can only share the good news of the Kingdom, that Jesus paid with His life on the cross for our rebellion against God and that those who believe in Him as Saviour and subject themselves to His will as King will have life by knowing God. We can only share the message but cannot make the plant grow and bear fruit. Only God can do that. Hence we should pray for atheists and likewise those that think they are in Christ but are disobedient, that they may hear this message and turn to Christ for salvation from their sin and inevitable punishment.

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

All I "heard" was a foot-stamping rant from an arrogant narcissist with Daddy-issues, and I'm not even an atheist.

[@unpopularopinions9076]

This interview was great’ Alex seemed more genuine, honest and humble that he often comes off. When he is debating- especially with another atheist debate partner- he doesn’t appear to listen but have the right rhetoric to “dunk” on the opposing view with supreme arrogance. He has so much more to say and offer when he takes a step back from his own dogma and listens.

[@almightyzentaco]

I don't think Alex comes off arrogant or dunks on anyone. Typically he remains more open, humble, and polite than most apologists he talks to.

[@niklaswikstrom78]

I think you need to get the wax out of your ears

[@josephbuell5192]

An atheist has to believe there ideals as ardently as one must trust in God

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

Do you mean "their ideals" or "there are ideals"?

[@DanTumaMedia]

❤❤❤

[@quietackshon]

The disappointing thing about discussion like this is the lack of knowledge and understanding. I know for a fact I don't know a lot, that should be the starting point for all. Secondly, why are we here? If it's not answered honestly, the rest is pointless academic, ivory tower gibber gabber.

[@Followwherethetruthleads]

Bring Wes huf in

[@Jenabelovedofjesus]

This interview was a good watch. I agree the Holy Spirit is drawing Alex to the truth. I will continue to pray for laborers as the harvest is ripe! Thanks for sharing this clip.

[@DaughterofYah101]

Wow

[@ArielRicciardi]

Are you The Edge?

[@UnluckyFatGuy]

I believe in God but really struggle with Jesus. If He is who He says He is then it is the greatest thing ever to happen to humanity. If not, then it is one of the biggest lies ever told. I have prayed that if He is what He says, then please show me. I have, as of yet, to be given an answer. Perhaps, I am not ready. I am trying to be patient, but it is hard.

[@boooshes]

This is the nature of faith. You might ask yourself "what would it take to show me?"

[@daveyboy6985]

If you are sincerely seeking him he will reveal himself to you. I encourage you to read the New testament, and pray to him .

[@scottbailey9242]

I believe Alex is a Christian in the making as well. Let all of us keep praying for him.

[@chrisazure1624]

Alex is a long way from Christ. His personal arrogance won't let him let go of his senseless objections to what he demands God adhere to.

[@Descriptor_]

Paul was on a mission to lock up Christian Jews to be murdered when God saved him. Alex is precisely where God wants him to be.

[@adriangeorge9505]

Israel means one who struggles with God. Who struggles more than an atheist? :)

[@Adam-gl1qv]

He is a long way from Christ simply because he has a healthy, rational and logical brain

[@chrisazure1624]

@@Adam-gl1qv OK. Logic your way into time, space, matter, energy and life.

[@chrisazure1624]

@Adam-gl1qv Keep telling yourself that but you come to sites like this to whine.

[@alri7908]

Romans 10:9-10 Legacy Standard Bible 9 [a]that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, [b]leading to righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, [c]leading to salvation

[@ryngrd1]

🔥Mathematical truth exists. Spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. Logical. Infinitely beautiful. Moral truth exists. Spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. Logical. Infinitely beautiful. Jesus is the perfect human, standing before God with zero sin. Jesus is the bread of life. Amen. 🙏😇✝️♾️

[@anniematushenko]

Amen and AMEN 🙏 🙌 ✝️ 👑 ❤️ 🙏

[@stevensteven3417]

Something that is spaceless, timeless and inmaterial is the very definition of nothing.

[@ryngrd1]

@@stevensteven3417 clearly not. Mathematical truth is discovered. Moral truth is discovered. Jesus is that light 😇🙏

[@DM-dk7js]

Can you provide one of these moral truths you speak of?

[@ryngrd1]

@@DM-dk7js the foundation of moral truth is 'existence is good'. Found in the very first line of Genesis. All life on Earth, including humans adhere to it. The 4 dimensions of space and time are fastened to each other for this reason. The subjective view of the same is 'self correcting' making it an objective mathematical truth throughout reality. Jesus is Lord 😇✝️♾️🙏🔥

[@MontgomeryMonsters]

Alex reminds me of atheist me, would’ve never in a million years imagined that I would be a Christian, but here I am.

[@christopheespic]

May I ask you what changed your mind? I recently went to the opposite direction.

[@MontgomeryMonsters]

@ To make a long story short I pulled into the parking lot where I work and was going to kill myself and in a last ditch effort I prayed that if there was a god to please help and I had an intense and overwhelming peace and love come over me and I had a vision of Jesus. This comes after being a hardcore nihilistic atheist who suffered from clinical depression for twenty years and from that day to this I haven’t been depressed, I’m not on antidepressants anymore, don’t smoke cigarettes anymore and I’m sober but most of all I know Jesus personally and have no doubt that God exist.

[@YuelSea-sw2rp]

@@MontgomeryMonsters. I like you, would’ve never in a million years have imagined that I would be a Christian, but here I am. I was not raised in a Christian family. I was an atheist /agnostic. Decided it was psychologically better for me to be an atheist than believe in a God who I thought hated me. ( I won't go into that ) I heard the Gospel & also about Judgement & Hell. I argued against it & rejected it. I was alone in my room early one morning & in an instant of time Jesus communicated directly to my spirit - it was much deeper than merely to my intellect. In a second I knew that Jesus was alive, that He loved me, that I had grieved Him my attitude toward Him. I was floored. I said " I'm sorry Jesus. " I cried and then these words passed through my mind slowly "Jesus is the Son -Jesus is the Son of God- then it hit me. " That means that GOD exists! And I went " Oh No. " Because my concept of God had not changed but now I could not even deny His existence. That was many years ago and God has been very merciful and patient with me as He has untangled me from my wrong concepts of Him and helped me to know Him as He truly is.

[@crnkin2]

Dude, do you realize who Ayaan Hirsi Ali is? You wouldn’t post this if you did

[@joverih5132]

Alex dialogs make him like intelligence man, but he is not. They way he dress, the way he act, the place he choose for background doesnt do anything. He know nothing. Give hi John Lennox, you will know what a kid he is.

[@TheMonkdad]

There are WAY more Christian Uncles at Thanksgiving in my life. I’m not at all close minded and am forever waiting for any measurable proof for god and an afterlife. In the meantime I’m an atheist who lives a more “Christian” life than most of the Christians I know.

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

Yeah, some naive Christians think that being an atheist literally makes you "evil". It's pretty staggering really.

[@tiger-t3u]

Well said!

[@zhengfuukusheng9238]

The only reason famous people shift to Christianity is because of the large masses of gullible followers it has (some of them have commented on this video). These people tend to be emotionally weak and gullible, and spend lots of money on books and lectures assuring themselves their faith is true. People seeking to exploit this suddenly become Christian apologists...exactly as Ayaan Hirsi Ali has done

[@RottenKiwi777]

Pray for Alex to find repentance.

[@NoName-cx3gk]

Being an atheist is challenging because belief offers comfort, making it easy to fall into that trap.

[@TKinfinity01]

Belief isn't a trap. It's a door.

[@mysotiras21]

Being an atheist is easy. You can devise your own morality, not feel answerable for the wrongs you do, convince yourself that you are a good person, etc.

[@Iraknegnilam]

@@TKinfinity01Nicely put! 👏

[@stevensteven3417]

​@@TKinfinity01A door that leads you to comfort.

[@YuelSea-sw2rp]

Atheism offers comfort too. The comfort of believing that you will not have to give an account of your life to God on the Day of Judgement.

[@RachelStemberger-rj4cw]

Let’s pray Alex is a Christian in the making. He can (and is) making such an amazing influence. If we can get Ben Shapiro and Alex O Connor converted they can change this world. that’s no exaggeration

[@brethagan798]

There is a change within you once you are saved. The Bible tells you that this will happen. You are a new creation and will desire new things. This isnt natural but rather supernatural and cannot be explained any other way.

[@skippy675]

Placebo is a well understood phenomenon.

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

​@@skippy675As is psychosis and Jerusalem Syndrome.

[@TheodoraB-t5t]

THERE ARE TWO KINGDOMS, IN THIS WORLD, EVERYBODY, BELONGS TO EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER. ONE LEADS TO HEAVEN. ONE LEADS TO HELL ( Choose Wisely)

[@AquarianAgeApostle]

Even using the atheist rationale, logic will make even the most cosmic of skeptics arrive at Christianity being true. 1. The universe is random and inconsequential. 2. Frameworks for understanding the universe are ultimately fruitless and exposes the absurdity of the universe at its very core 3. Christianity doesn't demand anything from the fully fledged fideist other than the belief in the most absurd proposition 4. Surrender all epistemologies to the most superstitious tenets that fully embrace the absurd to the point that the absurdities become absolutely rational.

[@DM-dk7js]

What exactly is “atheist rationale” tho?

[@teresahunt5521]

To take it even further, once on the island, some of us are compelled to explore every nook and cranny of the island. The wheather, the ancient artifacts, the sky above, the earth below, the land, the sea, the largest and smallest of all living things, and finally....the universe and the creator. God is in every detail and satisfies the intellect of the child and the genius without partiality. Jesus saves even us nerds. ❤

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

Have you ever _directly observed_ this 'God'?

[@Nomadestra1776]

​@@Theo_Skeptomai You can't observe a spiritual being.

[@donthesitatebegin9283]

@@Nomadestra1776 If you "can't observe a spiritual being", how do you know if you are worshipping the correct "spiritual being"? BTW: What is this "island" of which you speak? I hope it isn't Epstein Island!?

[@teresahunt5521]

@Theo_Skeptomai Yes.

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

@teresahunt5521 With which _sensory receptors_ did you observe this 'God'?

[@velkyn1]

no, everyone doesn't worship something. That is a common lie from theists to try to pretend everyone "really" agrees with them. Curiosu how Ayaan can't tell anyone which version of christianity she has accepted since they are all different and contradictory.

[@davidelvinsson3930]

@@velkyn1 That depends how you view it. One view could be that as an atheist, you are putting human reasoning as the highest authority. Thereby "worshipping" yourself.

[@scillyautomatic]

It is true. And we know that it is true because Bob Dylan told us so in 1979. "Gotta Serve Somebody". To "worship" something doesn't necessarily mean that you love that thing. Whatever or whomever you are bound to is what you serve, what you worship.

[@dentonhahn2907]

I disagree. Worship means to hold in high regard, to live for something. I guess if one has a nihilistic view it maybe true, but Nietzsche pretty much ruined his own philosophy, he could not live it out.

[@velkyn1]

@@davidelvinsson3930 No, it doesn't depend on how you "view it". I don't put human reasoning as the higher authority, nor do I worship it, so your lies about me worshipping myself fail like all christian lies.

[@davidelvinsson3930]

​@@velkyn1But aren't you putting your own reasoning higher than God, scince you don't belive in him? Making yourself your own "god" so to speak. That is a form of self worship.

[@JustaGuy2.0]

I would love to know why you say Alex O'Connor might became a Christian? I don't care, Alex can believe in whatever he wants, but why do you say that?

[@scillyautomatic]

People who have placed their trust in Jesus Christ should want to see everyone avoid the "fires of hell".

[@StruttinStrayCat]

Because he’s done a lot of genuine searching as opposed to the scoffing atheists who resist trying to learn about Christianity. He doesn’t hate Christianity, which is already a step in the direction of becoming a Christian.

[@JustaGuy2.0]

@@scillyautomatic How is that an answer to my question? The KZbinr (i don't know his name) said about Alex "I believe a Christian in the making". My question is, why does he thinks that, not if he wants it to be true or not.

[@pikeman6774]

@@JustaGuy2.0Because his inquiries, as many before have made, have lead many to end up becoming religious. Much like Hirsi. It’s his opinion on his view of Connor…. Why are you fixated on this?

[@JustaGuy2.0]

@@pikeman6774 Simple curiosity since Alex O'Connor is an atheist.

[@Bc232klm]

This is so dumb.

[@pikeman6774]

You are a prime example of what they are talking about.

[@obsoletecd-rom]

@@pikeman6774don’t pay any mind. Just a mocker and scoffer.

[@mysotiras21]

So why are you wasting your time watching it and trolling?

[@pikeman6774]

@@mysotiras21Well I suspect, looking at his comments, that it’s all he does. I suppose it’s to try and remove the doubt he has about his own position but it doesn’t satisfy . Thus the repeat need.

[@kevinkelly2162]

@@pikeman6774 According to your logic Christians who read the Bible more than once or have favourite verses or even go to church regularly just do that because they are trying to remove doubts about their own position but it doesn't satisfy because they repeat the same actions over and over revealing an unsatisfied need.

[@jedition5618]

Christ is Lord👑