Ex-Tesla Executive Becomes Elon Musk's Biggest Rival

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[@saqibmudabbar]

The thing is people don’t just buy a Tesla because it’s a Tesla. People buy it for Elon Musk. Yes it’s a good car but to be honest Tesla has many flaws like all cars do but Tesla owners are forgiving of these flaws. And it not because of the car, it’s about the ideology of the man behind the cars. Tesla owners often say, come on Elon just fix the Tesla service. We love you. And you would never see anyone saying anything like that about any other product let alone company. Imagine getting screwed on Amazon for 500 bucks. You would never let that go. But for Tesla you might. It’s more like a patreon thing. People want to see crazy inventions, people wanna see neuralink making disabled walk again, or humans becoming an interplanetary species. It’s hard to compete with Elon.

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People don't just buy tsla stock because it's a Tesla company, People buy it for Elon Musk.

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[@yeesenchai]

Pretty much this, ppl buy a Tesla as a way to support Elon. Elon is just charismatic and likeable and way ahead of others, he's not preparing for future, he's creating the future.

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[@travisdt]

if Big Mac is so popular, KFC and other fast food won't exist......And many wont buy Tesla because of Elon...

[@khairulanwar1568]

If Elon had really seen it as something he wants to monopolies he wouldn’t have made the technology open source for anyone to copy , improves and developed . His goal is bigger than that.

[@Joeleon2]

You far overestimate how much Musk claims to allow other companies to use his technology against how much they are actually allowed to use it. So far any claim to open their supercharger networks have been unfounded, their physical battery and motor technology they keep secret, and their stance on right to repair is some of the strictest.

[@yenneferofgyanvapi3965]

Elon is not founder of Tesla, he bought it from someone. Second, stop kissing his ass.

[@isitchicken]

The first Lucid cars have now been delivered and they look fantastic. Great time to be a motorist.

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

Rawlinson this, Rawlinson that, we all know he is a top notch Automotive Engineer and has assembled quite a team and raised enough funds to stay liquid for a year or so, but now comes the hard part , getting to scale and staying alive, I wish Peter the best, as we need to poke the legacy slowpokes into action and get off ICE and their butts, now if only Peter can raise a few billions for the next 10 years everything will work out fine, following in somebody's footsteps in the hard packed snow is never a bad thing, Elon Musk and Tesla has blazed the BEV trail , everything should be easy as pie now, may all BEV startups succeed,Rivian included, else the Chinese Auto manufacturers bury us.

[@ramblerandy2397]

Before I started watching this video I knew that Peter Rawlinson didn't consider Lucid to be a rival to Tesla, even though the title implies it. And in the video, the narrator repeats Rawlinson's insistence that Lucid is not a Tesla rival. They operate in different market categories. And until Lucid decide to go down-market, to make everyday affordable cars, they won't be.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

They have plans to go "down market". I hope and believe they'll succeed. They'll never be a major "competitor" to Tesla, but Taycan "advocates" should be worried.

[@dchristo10]

@@rogerstarkey5390 They'll likely be gone in 2 years, no matter how good their vehicle is. They are too late to market and now have to compete with Mercedes, Audi, etc. I don't think they'll sell enough to survive.

[@UrbanBDKNY]

@@dchristo10 yea I see them as trying to take Mercedes market instead and that’s going to be tough.

[@wincrasher2007]

@@UrbanBDKNY yep. If you look at the EQS, Mercedes is going to be very hard to beat. 100 years of quality coachbuilding is nothing to scoff at.

[@wolfstealth782]

@@dchristo10 I think you underestimate conscience of millenial car enthusiasts my good fellow 😉 peace.

[@f1rstprinciple]

Mass production is 100x more difficult than designing a car. I want every EV companies to succeed, including Lucid.

[@joeabad5908]

Every EV manufacturer is a winner.. Go Lucid..

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[@BRBallin1]

Even if competitors make a better car, they still have to achieve volume production, achieve the same longevity on their cars as Teslas, and be just as affordable as Teslas

[@bufnyfan1]

Lucid CEO Peter Rowlinson worked at Tesla and saw first hand what will be needed to ramp up production--he also has over 30 years of experience in the automobile industry in various capacities--Lucid's car was just named Motor Trend Car of the Year in 2021 which you can be sure is going to ramp up demand even more

[@bufnyfan1]

@@Sidowse Lucid doesn't need its own charging infrastructure--will those already present---and has a longer range than anything present now-so will run longer between charges and will charge far faster when it comes to charging--Mr. Rowlinson was the "brains" behind Tesla's success (despite what Musk and his ego may say)--this company won't go "bust" (far from it)--I suspect it will be bought out if anything

[@bufnyfan1]

@@Sidowse I'm not going to bother arguing with you--the same arguments were made about Tesla in 2010 Simply PUT: Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson was the vice president of vehicle engineering at Tesla and was the chief engineer of the Model S. He’s the guy who basically engineered Tesla’s first flagship EV. Meanwhile, Lucid’s chief engineer, Eric Bach, helped launch and grow the Model S and Model X brands at Tesla. He even planted the seeds for the Model 3 launch. Lucid’s top lawyer, Jonathan Butler, was formerly Tesla’s second-in-command lawyer. Their vice president of supply chain, Peter Hasenkamp, previously established and executed the sourcing plan for the Tesla Model S. Lucid’s vice president of manufacturing used to be Tesla’s vice president of production. And their senior director of sales was formerly Tesla’s lead of sales operations. They were all there during Tesla's infancy and development--and Rawlinson especially is "driven" to repeat this process with Lucid (this time not having to deal with Musk and his histrionics) The fact that there first car was just named Motor Trend Car of the Year in 2021 tells you they are well on their way to this realization

[@tenkiaqua6131]

@@bufnyfan1 lol, if you simply get all of old staffs from Apple and made a better phone with money. China will make a lot of superb phones, not Samsung as competitor. Creating and selling few hundred of cars are simply an investment in PR. They lost in every car which they sold for that nominal award "Motor Trend Car of the Year". A lot of big car markets released new product lines in EV market. Lexus, BMW, Porsche, Mercedes, Honda Acura, etc. Lucid Air doesn't have anything superior than any Tesla or other EV model. Creating a costly car under concept scale or limited scale is easy. Mass production is totally different story. After 5 months from your comment, did you see any realistic plan from Lucid Motor for mass production and sale?

[@david.mysticalbeing]

How many times do we have to explain... Tesla has no competition. You can't say lucid competes with tesla when they haven't sold a single car, tesla will sell about a million this year and possibly 3 million next year.

[@Klipse11]

Gotta admit the name Lucid is appropriate because that company is just a vivid dream.

[@fitbounties]

@@Klipse11 😂😂 savage

[@MrCharminpsyco]

Lucid air looking more classy than Tesla.

[@danielvoldbynielsen9360]

Damn thats a stupid answer🤭

[@wolfstealth782]

@@Klipse11 that comes to life and don't get all bent outta shape fool LOL since ur a musketeer and all...you suppose to embrace duels, C'MON! 😘

[@PPE707]

There’s no competition. Elon goal is to move the world to sustainable energy. This is in his plan. Pushing others to do the same.

[@stevejohanson4133]

Governments using illegal automotive gas taxation will help Elon as spending 15k per year for gas will economically crush most families thus force them into electric vehicles

[@1GQ_gent]

Soooo many Tesla's on the road now while dropping kids off to school it's a Tesla car show literally

[@mikeblack6953]

@@stevejohanson4133 Nope, all states will enact a VMT tax on EV's as revenue from fuel tax continues to erode. If anything, gas may become cheaper for a period as more EV's take to the road untill OPEC adjusts output to lower levels.

[@johngraham2470]

That`s why he is jealous of Peter Rawlingson and his salty comments on Peter Rawlingson.

[@Moleanimationchannel]

Sounds like he is a pro at leaving car companies

[@penlavits3305]

He seems to be very ambitious and there is nothing wrong with that. It's his life.

[@corner4008]

It's about making money pal....you don't get high jump at same place

[@celticgirl8882]

what's his payout each time???

[@davidcoronado6346]

Elon with all that money should have taken care of his employees, now he is "hurt"🙄

[@davidcoronado6346]

If sum1 aint tryna pay u wat ur worth of course you would leave them

[@m-ok-6379]

I love my TSLA stocks and hope Lucid is successful because competition is good for innovation.

[@johngraham2470]

Even I am crying on Lucid because Tesla stock might fall in future if too many better EVs comes to market.

[@danieldavila6281]

The two should be happy as they are not competing with themselves, rather with the internal combustion competition.

[@UniQ.Kamruz]

Before MR. Rawlinson joined Tesla in 2009 he was Chief engineer for Jaguar and Lotus at different times if his career. That is why he was accepted or most likely headhunted by Tesla.

[@SmartMart1658]

Great video. Any company which can out perform Tesla on range deserves respect. 520 Miles EPA certified range for the Lucid Air long range version is 105 miles more than the best Tesla long range version. Lucid has some seriously good tech and a bright future in front of them.

[@endi4real]

Yeah....... but at what price point..?

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Enough with the Tesla comparison.match it with Taycan. (Lucid ftw)

[@redbaron6805]

But the question is, for how many people does the extra range matter? I can't think of a time where I had 400 miles of range and needed 100 more. That is almost 6 hours of solid driving. Most drivers tend to stop and take breaks every 2 to 3 hours. In fact, when Carwow did the range test and competition between the Audi E-Tron GT and the Tesla Model S in the UK, they found the limiting factor was the drivers, not the cars. There is only so far you can drive before needing food, restrooms and breaks...

[@MrCPPG]

When you considered degredations to range such as cold weather, hvac and hilly terrain, you end up with just about enough rather than coming up short. No one ever complains about too much range.

[@arshaq4471]

@@redbaron6805 So u mean to say 100 miles of extra range is useless?

[@rajchoudhary4349]

Nice narration...!! Forgot the employee profile and role..!! Lol

[@M99-h3e]

Even though he used to work at tesla. He still don’t know all of what Elons doing, for sure Elon has something up his sleeve and will not go careless. Tesla is the pioneer and still be way ahead of all EV’s.

[@a9a9d]

He is the real engineer who built Tesla . Go and educate yourself fanboy .

[@M99-h3e]

@@a9a9d i know that boy! you seem to know more are you Peters Boyfriend?? 😂 😂

[@ericship8383]

Seems like you’re the Elon fan girl 👧💀

[@M99-h3e]

@@ericship8383 another karen? Easyyy there 😂

[@eddieeryuba8428]

Tesla is ahead because it ventured earlier in the ev market than anyone else. We all knew when other companies get into it it'd be only a matter of time before they catch up. Lucid air has better range, Porsche has better performance, Mercedes EQS has better interiors.

[@jippyjester]

When the disruptor gets pissed off at the disruptor lol

[@albertlergier663]

Invest on both. Elon is a great CEO. Peter has proved he has talent. LCID @ $23 - $24 looks like a steal at these levels.

[@nickajumuka3059]

Where can you buy Lucid outside the US. I mean LCID stocks

[@jase7231]

At $37 now

[@bufnyfan1]

@@jase7231 $55 November 16 2021

[@jase7231]

@@bufnyfan1 yes! I told my friends but nobody jumped in… #GainsBro

[@bufnyfan1]

@@jase7231 I love Peter Rawlinson's story. He is now both CEO/CTO of Lucid is responsible for all strategic and business aspects of the company. As CTO, he is responsible for the creation and delivery of all Lucid products. He brings over 30 years of automotive industry experience to bear in these roles. His experience at Tesla will be instrumental to increase production especially with Lucid's honor of being the Motor Trend Car of the Year in 2021--there are now 22K orders for this car.

[@naroao6820]

Wow good job sir 👌 love you ❤️❤️

[@hatol614]

I agree. Healthy competition benefits us, the consumers. :)

[@metaphyzxx]

The charging infrastructure is going to be what makes the difference here.

[@googlgfacef218]

the current charging stations are already powerful enough. whats holding back is the on board chip in the car that says how fast you can charge to prevent batteries from overheating and causing permanent loss of cells. go do your research.

[@stevejohanson4133]

Once Elon purchases the "Freeways" and installs inductive - DWC ( Drive While Charging ) coils into the ground - he'll own the highways and the vehicles driven on them. The moral of this story: Own Tesla Stock !

[@springer-qb4dv]

Of course Raawlinson made great decision to leave Musk behind. Under Musk, even true geniuses are just cogs to be exploited for maximum glory of Musk. At Lucid, Rawlinson is now the top man that he wanted to be. That could never have happened if he stayed at tesla under the all knowing, all mighty emperor E. Musk! LOL

[@Space8K]

Exactly !

[@ricknroll963]

So, in a few years he will become mighty emperor Rawlinson? The someone will leave him and cycle will continue?

[@bufnyfan1]

and now you are seeing the results of that---Lucid's car was named Motor Trend Car of the Year for 2021 and has a battery range greater than Tesla--and Mr. Rowlinson has invested a lot of money into advance battery range even further--there are now 22K Lucid car's on backorder-and I'm sure Mr. Rowlinson from his time at Tesla knows how to increase production

[@kenankesa]

Well if Tesla did not have real competition, we would have to pay massive amount of money for a tesla model. This way the price is lower and better for us. Thanks for leaving Tesla.

[@Jamesbond-tk3sz]

nah nah nah. Tesla is and will always have that qualitatively lowest price

[@kenankesa]

@@Jamesbond-tk3sz Yeaah Yeaah Yeaah 🤣

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"Competition...." IF the ramp goes as plan, Lucid will be making similar numbers as the Taycan (Porsche predicts maybe 50,000) in 2023. 100,000 total? I doubt that's going to dent the Tesla domination?

[@kenankesa]

@@rogerstarkey5390 if the ramp goes as plan i will buy tesla and lucid in 10 years

[@commuterbranchline8132]

No, Lucid aren’t producing any cars yet. They are just dreams thus far. Prototyping is easy, mass production is hard.

[@hussamalyafai3708]

It's coming.....buckle up

[@commuterbranchline8132]

@@hussamalyafai3708 I will be delighted whenever they start production.

[@barupens8141]

The real problem with lucid is their cars are just cars nothing more but with tesla you get a pc on wheels, A.I, performance updates and way more

[@barupens8141]

An example would be: lucid = flipphones Tesla = smartphone And this has nothing to do with being a fanboy

[@commuterbranchline8132]

@@barupens8141 I’m happy to reserve judgement for when their vehicle hits the streets. I will be over the moon if they can put out an amazing car, if delivered as promised it could be stonkingly good. I just want to keep it real as the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

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[@frankly5171]

Apple should buy Lucid. It is a good culture fit and the fastest way for Apple to get a high quality Apple car to market.

[@markplott4820]

PETER, does not even want to be CTO and CEO of LUCID Anymore, all he wants is to PUMP the stock and CASH OUT, all PETER wants is to retire on a Tropical Island with NAKED WOMEN.

[@markplott4820]

@Jason Pike - PETER is Leaving LUCID as soon he CASHES IN on the Stock.

[@yes-wn4rq]

@@markplott4820 LMFAO Sure, you Invest almost ten years of your life in developing a product, almost on the brink of bankruptcy, just to pump a stock and retire... The guy is an engineer, not an executive. Your comments do not make any sense, and I might just lose some of my intelligence by reading them.

[@markplott4820]

@@yes-wn4rq - PETER is a POOR Quality Engineer who WASHED OUT at TESLA.

[@yes-wn4rq]

@@markplott4820 ahahahahahah... Okay, you won. You are very knowledgeable about the subject; please forgive my ignorance. Tomorrow at 4:00 am, I'm dumping my 4250 shares of Lucid. Thank you very much for your insight.

[@zackcarl7861]

Tesla needs a rival ..it's already hyped enough

[@benpezzot8805]

With time there will be one once mercedes BMW Audi and others catch up it will get ev cars if there own

[@andromeda9340]

more ev brands are a good thing

[@benpezzot8805]

U forgot about lucid

[@seasong7655]

Absolute mad lad engineer designing his car from scratch, and then doing it again just to beat his previous design, because he thought he could do it even better.

[@L1GHT119]

Good video. Rawlinson Tech is on par if not better in efficiency than Tesla. As a 4 Tesla Owner , I see that is a great alternative to an upscale more luxury ev with range and performance !

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Forget the comparison.

[@redbaron6805]

But, they will have to go through the same growing pains as Tesla. Open sales and service centers. Get their charging infrastructure figured out. Get people interested in paying a premium for that car over Tesla, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, etc. Can Lucid deliver the car, the service and the location for them to sell enough cars to become profitable, that is the question. There is a reason all the premium brands are usually owned by a larger brand with deep pockets or constantly dancing on the BK line and trying to find spare change in the sofa cushions each month...

[@efthimios]

So interesting and inspiring. And especially how Tesla in the past had quality control issues, and LUCID wants to make alternative to luxury brands- meaning they are saying the lucid is a level higher in quality and finish.

[@doingtime20]

Omg so much musk fanboyism, honestly Lucid looks like a solid company. At the end of the day I agree with musk, the more electric cars the better.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Predictable comment. Lame, but predictable.

[@violatione]

Lucid is not competition until they start making and delivering cars.

[@cold_face7798]

Tesla is a cheap garbage that belongs in trash. I feel sad for everyone wasting money on this cheap plastic battery on wheels. Sounds like most of y’all suffer from something called “lack of taste”

[@giuistefanjr72]

The more affordable and bigger capacity not performance and no range.

[@Vincentvega293]

@@cold_face7798 Do you also believe that the earth is flat?

[@austinwiththef150]

How is this his biggest rival when I’ve never heard of them.

[@gerrybaker1422]

Well where have you been? In a cave somewhere?

[@austinwiththef150]

@@gerrybaker1422 Yes Gerry. With your mom.

[@_123Ackerman]

That s how they make people hate someone when they do that they will make tesla fan hate him more , I don't like that with media they always exaggerate everything that would make sense if they say tesla competitor only

[@worldwithus2297]

From zero to billionaire Elon Musk's success video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32nkKecmcyiaJI

[@a9a9d]

He is a engineering genius and very instrumental man behind what Tesla is today . Our society is driven by marketing and PR so you are most likely to know the guy who steals the show on camera but you don't know real genius like Wozniak or this man . We as a society are at fault actually not this guy .

[@earthwizz]

They're not competitors, the competition is ICE. The 'rivalry' is clickbait.

[@CNile-se9xw]

I used to be in awe of Elon, but not any more, spitefulness, lies & ego have changed all that. Peter Rawlinson on the other hand has always shown respect & humility, all qualities that I admire.👌🏻

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

What kind of clown are you? Rawlinson is the sleaziest most dishonest salesman around. If you very humbly say that you have created the best electric car in the world then you have no idea about humility. And now tell of one lie that Elon told.

[@CNile-se9xw]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 Watch the vid again, look for pics of Peter with the Model S, & documentation, all of which I've seen before, but I'm sure that they're others that haven't been made public. Besides, what or who sparked your dislike of Peter, & what evidence are you going by?

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

@@CNile-se9xw Rawlinson left Tesla before mass production. Still he mentions his position at Tesla like a badge of honor. But it is a farcry from honorable to leave in the middle of the battle. He was there when things were easy and left when things got tough. I do not respect cowards that present themselves as heroes.

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 Elon, is that you?

[@CNile-se9xw]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 I'll assume you didn't know that he left to be at his mother's side in England. He was then contacted to work on the Lucid team & other engineers joined him. I feel for Elon in that the timing would've been devastating, but it's not like he's never done it himself.😉 Then again, if a once in a lifetime position came your way, would you knock it back because you're so loyal to your employer? It's said that the other engineers liked working with Peter, I'll leave it to you to read into that what you may. Peter & his engineer friends stuck with Lucid through "the tough times", it seems to me that they aren't afraid of challenges. 😉 Peace

[@yodabolt1247]

Most EV companies outside of Tesla have failed. Many are able to make a prototype or two and never made it to production before going bankrupt.

[@hussamalyafai3708]

The bulk of these Tesla fanatics are burning up right now as Lucid is going into production. After the launch all yhey will talk about is the 0 to 60 of the Tesla Plaid and when Lucid launches the tri-motor with 1500hp all that will be left is: but Lucid is producing 100,000 vehicles and Tesla is producing 1,000,000 vehicles. The Lucid tech is superior in many aspects: The Lucid single motor weighs less than half that of Tesla and produces almost 50% more power. The Tesla Range is at least 20% better than most and Lucid is at least 20% better than Tesla. The Quality battle is definitely won by Lucid, anybody that sat in a Lucid including the Tesla fanatics confirms that. The performance battle for the single and dual motor is also bye bye Tesla. The Tesla crowd is definitely feeling the heat and you can tell by their reaction on anything related to Lucid. Tesla is an EV tech marvel but the undisputed truth is the quality is shait. LUCID is attracting the Tycan buyers, EQS and other luxury ICE's like the Audi, BMW, Mercedes. You can pack a 1000hp in a 350Z and some people will definitely buy it but highly unlikely that you it will draw much of the ferrari client base. If Tesla had proper financial backing back in 2007 before it went public in 2010 probably the 2020 achievements would have been had in 2015. Lucid is financially secured through the solid backing of PIF, pouring an extra few billion in it over the next few years is like a drop in the Ocean. Thumbs up to Tesla for its achievements so far but its Lucid's time now so to all the Tesla kookoo's Get your popcorn ready, sit down because we can't see the screen The movie has already started 😀 😉

[@x_agamoto-dw1be]

I have a quick question, does your fingers not hurt after writing so much

[@hussamalyafai3708]

@@x_agamoto-dw1be Zero pain with the loonies

[@CNile-se9xw]

@@x_agamoto-dw1be my eyes hurt from reading your BS.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You do know the "fact" Lucid IS a "Tri motor"? (It's called "knowing the product")

[@redbaron6805]

Yes, Tesla which just announced the biggest quarter ever and will close out the biggest sales year ever is obviously terrified of a company that has delivered zero cars so far, and is competing in a price bracket where the volumes are exceptionally low and profitability very much uncertain. I find it interesting that Lucid is attracting "Taycan buyers, EQS and others", really? Every one of those ZERO Lucid owners that have been sold so far are reporting getting rid of their cars already? Who knew? And I find it comically stupid that you think Tesla could have accelerated its 2020 progress to 2015 with just more money. You appear to be one of the geniuses that think if a woman takes 9 months to make a child, 9 women could obviously make a child in 1 month. So, you took Tesla fanboyism, dialed it up to 120 and think THAT is how the world actually works? Interesting....

[@Deetroiter]

Elon's biggest rival is quality control at the end of the assembly line. You'd think after YEARS of the same ol', he'd get it addressed. Not sure what's so difficult about having QC workers at the end of the line with a checklist and if something doesn't make the cut, the vehicle does NOT leave until it's fixed. If other companies can do it, so can Tesla. This "well fix it later when the customer takes delivery" nonsense isn't going to fly now that other manufacturers are getting seriously into the EV game.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

From what I've seen (so far) "Elons biggest nightmare" seems to stem from a less than stellar US workforce? The same cars built in "the other" factory don't seem to have the "publicised" problems? Berlin will almost certainly confirm this.

[@pierre.a.larsen]

It seems to work real well for Tesla. Maybe they have realized where it is important apply their energy and effort? The stock value and the sales numbers actually prove that. Panel gaps and similar is a very small part of quality. Software, electronics, efficiency, performance, durability, charging network and so on are much more important.

[@worldwithus2297]

From zero to billionaire Elon Musk's success video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32nkKecmcyiaJI

[@Theone0611]

Damn this must feel like a lucid dream for him.

[@johngraham2470]

Peter Rawlinson made a wise decision leaving Tesla. Elon Musk seems to be jealous of him. Lucid is a beautiful beast.

[@steves659]

So what is the long term sustainability of the batteries when they go bad? Can they be recycled? Is there harmful by-products?

[@burlhorse61]

not sure of their after life tbh-could still harm the enviroment

[@ThirdLife86]

I am sure there will be harmful byproducts. As almost nothing can be recycled 100% and without ANY harm. But guess what: even more with fossile fuels. And about long term sustainability i suggest you read a few newer studies about battery lifespan in EVs (interesting stuff). With a degradation of 10% at about 200k miles i am pretty sure most parts of a conventional engine have degraded much more not even counting in the many times you had to go to regular service and invest back into it. To be honest i drive 12500 Miles at a MAX per year, usually its about 6500 miles. In that scenario i am sure i'd WANT a new car before the old ones battery has even lost 10% capacity. And i had to drive it for 32 years. I doubt the other parts will hold out long enough due to material fatigue, the battery will probably be the last thing dying in that car.

[@Quapadople]

Lucid air looks neat.

[@bingslamet950]

I give Lucid 'till 2025 when it announces chapter 11.

[@TheMrlittlemack]

But for now, the stock can go the moon 🌝

[@whosdondada]

Not happening

[@TheMrlittlemack]

@@whosdondada that’s what they said about Tesla xD

[@tenkiaqua6131]

@@TheMrlittlemack LOL, all EV-related stocks (car start-up, battery, etc) went the moon for that stock trending. Now, Lucid Motor price is only $18 after reaching $55. I think they will announce chapter 11 soon

[@synthwave8548]

It's not about competition, it's more about Sustainability

[@bryanshow6887]

Wow! Lucid is already selling 300,000 cars a year beating Tesla. That was so fast!

[@pauljnellissery7096]

?

[@worldwithus2297]

From zero to billionaire Elon Musk's success video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32nkKecmcyiaJI

[@platt9968]

@@pauljnellissery7096 I believe he's being sarcastic about them calling Lucid a "competitor" for Tesla

[@mitulsingh473]

The competition going high

[@brandonyen7837]

I don’t care if they wanted to compete each other who’s boss just please build an affordable Ev so we all can buy use it to make the world go GREEN 🙏

[@KochariAsgar]

lol EVs are not as "green" as you think

[@zomgbrattodilolrenzor6081]

@@KochariAsgar Much greener than traditional combustion engine.

[@KochariAsgar]

@@zomgbrattodilolrenzor6081 doubt

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@KochariAsgar Proven.

[@jaycobdelacruz3789]

The more competition tesla has the cheaper it will become. So keep it coming

[@parkvoranaparit1873]

Musk doesn't study his competitors; he makes his competitors study him. Musky knows how to find a better replacement, I don't think this guy is his real concern 😂

[@miner434]

Musky?

[@parkvoranaparit1873]

@@miner434 who put the "Y" there? Did you do it? 😂

[@johngraham2470]

Fan boy. Don`t love people to much.

[@bufnyfan1]

if Peter Rowlinson isn't a "real concern" to Musk--maybe he should think again

[@aeromtb2468]

how many do they deliver each month.

[@firefistace2985]

i only believe it when it happens. but right now im tired of seeing tesla killers fails.

[@MrCPPG]

The only one that can kill Tesla is Tesla. The term "Tesla killer" is a made up media catch phrase that thinking people should ignore. There is plenty of room for both Tesla and Lucid.

[@jerrycarroll9068]

American made nuff said! Lucid all the way

[@worldwithus2297]

From zero to billionaire Elon Musk's success video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32nkKecmcyiaJI

[@Supraboyes]

Funny how being "limited" to a ice car never stopped him before. He's a good engineer doesn't matter if it's a ice vehicle. This is so sad fan boy

[@z.z.onichi5365]

plot twist : lucid and tesla both work as a team to disrupt the oil industry

[@huzupronoobgaming7756]

To beat Tesla in there game you need at least 10 more years of research, they are so ahead of the curve. Just look at the autopilot.. you just can not copy it.

[@jesseg.6286]

There is no rival. No match. No competitors. Elon stands alone.

[@alansandybay]

All the best to lucid air. Ideologists never fail.

[@rishadmpp]

All Tesla tech and patents are free and open. This is revolutionary. Testla wants competition to freely use their patents. Unlike other manufacturers and mobile phone companies who are fighting patent wars, suing each other.

[@Mr91495osh]

The waiting time for delivery of a Tesla X is one year. Tesla owns the electric car business.

[@EDITS_SC]

For now they do but they were really the first mass produced ones. And as someone said above it was a status symbol to own a Tesla and therefore a part of something Elon Musk helped create. But it will not be that way forever. Perhaps with more companies producing cars the quality control may get better.

[@my-financial-wealthblog4423]

That's the impressive career in Tesla and Lucid !

[@UProductions457]

Its funny the people in this comment section are saying stuff like "How many cars have they sold?" yet any time the EV pickup market is mentioned or the RImac Nevera is mentioned, they flock to Tesla's that were announced over 3 years ago and still don't plan to be in production for another year or two.

[@miguellopez3392]

How is that funny, It's still a valid point 0 car made of any kind, tesla has produced 5 different models.

[@alanl3511]

So…. How many have they sold??? 155 units… none of which are on the streets as of yet….crickets…..

[@UProductions457]

@@miguellopez3392 True, however Tesla announced the Roadster in 2006 and didn’t even produce any until 2008. Lucid is already starting to produce the Lucid Air, so they will probably have the same situation as Tesla did. What makes Lucid’s success even more likely is they aren’t in debt so they have a lot more money to get their feet off the ground.

[@UProductions457]

@@alanl3511 That’s because it isn’t available yet. Tesla took two years to get the Roadster out in 2008 so compared to Tesla, Lucid still has another year before we should question them too much.

[@miguellopez3392]

@@UProductions457 lucid has been around since 2012, tesla was in a very risky position and the company nearly went bankrupt, lucid definitely has debt, and that debt is to investors, they will demand a profit and it will hurt the company if the CEO doesn't manage expectations which he likely wont as this car has been in the works for a very long time.

[@sylvesterdarminto2156]

Competition is good to improve the product in order to prove that one's product is better than the other... it's a normal process in business n life

[@Shaqshaq_pov]

What is wrong with y’all stop saying it’s a competition this is what he wants and this is what needs to happen global warming is a serious thing going electric is the best thing as of now so chill and welcome all the new start up companies

[@hussamalyafai3708]

Info is a bit off. Lucid isn't producing three motors yet, only 2 with a maximum of 1111hp. There is no more 1080hp, range model with 933 and performance model with 1111. Both are dual motors.

[@markplott4820]

TESLA is DELIVERING over 1000+ Model S PLAID per Month. LUCID is not Delivering PRODUCTION cars yet, and only has 12,000 Reservations for the DREAM , and is secheduled for ONLY 577 cars in 2021. LUCID is OUT OF CASH in 2022, thanks to a $4.5 MILLION cash burn.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Tesla is a shitty little Car company

[@hussamalyafai3708]

@@markplott4820 when PIF is out of cash then Lucid will be out of cash. PIF has 1.3 trillion dollars divided in three different funds, so it will take a bit of time for them to be out of cash.

[@markplott4820]

@@hussamalyafai3708 - FALSE, LUCID own Financials say LUCID has a MASSIVE $4.5 MILLION Cash Burn in 2022. and they still have not even DELIVERED single PRODUCTION car in 2021. LCID to $0.

[@hussamalyafai3708]

@@markplott4820 I believe you didn't understand my reply. All I am saying if all else fails to generate cash the PIF is there, they own 62% and they won't let it fail. Dropping a few billion in lucid will cause insignificant strain on the fund.

[@keicyc4669]

I'll love to work for lucid or zero electric motorcycle out here in Arizona one day🤷🏾‍♀️ seems right

[@markplott4820]

why ? LUCID is a JOKE , they ONLY have WASHED OUT Tesla people working for them, L A M E . IF you want to work for someone and MAKE A DIFFERENCE , work for SpaceX or TESLA, anything else is a waste of TIME. unless you are a BETA MALE , then you are what LUCID wants.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Lucid is the best,Tesla is trash

[@markplott4820]

@@brunoheggli2888 - LUCID motors is a MASSIVE FRAUD . do your on Research.

[@jonathangibson4778]

The numbers speak for themselves. Lucid is better. Period

[@jeffjefjeff724]

@@markplott4820 Are you going to work for Tesla then? They have excellent pay and relaxing work hours. They even get lots of benefits! It's SOOO good!!!!!

[@ស្រុកខ្ញុំប្រទេសខ្ញុំ]

So nice 👍

[@gti189]

LOL 😂 😂 😂 LOL KZbin needs more comedy channels like this!

[@philoso377]

Lets not forget that half a second shy can be seen as a trade off for superior long range performance impart by a heavier battery pack in lucid air. .

[@lil----lil]

It's worth repeating a million times: "Competition is good for EVERYBODY. Period."

[@trapper802]

Collaboration beats competition

[@asnfhtmlzxsje274]

There were many Ex Employees of Apple too who could not make big in rivalery

[@royalgreenlantern]

This reminds me of how Lamborghini worked for Ferrari, Then of course went on to create the Lamborghini brand as Ferrari number 1 rival.

[@sharptux618]

Good comparison but that won’t happen. Elon is one of a kind

[@arvindh3525]

World needs people like Elon

[@NC.237]

We love Elon period, you can’t compare him with Elon

[@reginaldmyles6307]

I seen one in Houston on 1960. I knew it was different from first gaze! Didn’t see a name on it

[@rusdayatiidrus5401]

The brand image of Tesla has bn too positive n deep in the EV Market. Assuredly it is hard to compete wt the Super Genius Elon Musk.

[@JoseRivera-oo8hr]

I loved their deliveries made in cali. This stock will explode. I made profit off my Call Options.

[@x_agamoto-dw1be]

Oof these Tesla fanboys in the comment section are just here to put up excuses about how tesla will always be the best even though it wouldn't

[@redbaron6805]

You mean like the Tesla haters that claim Tesla's are terrible cars, Tesla will go bankrupt and never make it, Tesla killer number 10204332 is here and NOW Tesla REALLY is doomed.... really... honest... THIS TIME... Yet Tesla sales keep going up, they are building 2 new factories and every OEM is saying they are the benchmark they are trying to catch up to....

[@paulrampersaud7601]

No nothing nightmare Tesla is ahead of everyone else an it’s going to be that way for a long time Always innovating

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

It's good to see that the car industry are really taking electric seriously now all around the around. CO2 in cars needs to stop

[@californiacritic9779]

Yeah, CO2 is the problem. Let's just ignore the lithium batteries that have to be disposed of when they aren't good any more. 🤣

[@ThirdLife86]

CO2 in cars needs to stop ? How ? Are you just not gonna breathe ? :D

[@ThirdLife86]

@@californiacritic9779 So whats your proposal ? Keep going with fossile fuels ? Because it is more sustainable to pump oil out of the ground, then ship it to a harbor, from there send it to a refinery, refine it, send it back to the harbor/ship, then drive around the world, again back in a harbor, then locally distribute with trucks ? Its an ongoing process of disposal in so many ways, yet you complain about a still rather new technology in the automotive space.. Lets wait and see how much can be recycled and reused and what the final bill is instead of complaining at the first sight of something new.

[@angelmatos9143]

This is like announcing an All-Star PeeWee football team will have an exhibition game against an NFL team.

[@alfredo607]

Biggest rival? From someone who hasn’t delivered a single car yet? When Lucid is profitable, let me know.

[@alfredo607]

@Jason Pike let’s not get ahead of ourselves. 10 years is a long time. Let them make it past the first or second year without going bankrupt first. In the meantime, Tesla will be too far ahead for Lucid to even be considered a competitor.

[@sosospacesheep2344]

True. Still - I already got some Lucid shares. As Tesla already is too expensive. 😉Waiting for SpaceX IPO though.

[@frankly5171]

And how long did it take Tesla to become profitable?🙄

[@alfredo607]

@@frankly5171 That’s exactly my point. When (if) Lucid becomes profitable, maybe they can be considered a competitor but certainly not a rival.

[@hussamalyafai3708]

Starting with 20% better range ! Equivalent performance for the single and double motor ! PIF financial backing ! Confirmed talent ! Will they ba able to do mass production? Maybe and maybe not.....but they are definitely a threat and you can see it from Elon Musks behaviour in the last year.

[@regerooo]

Modern Family Fans: This is Earl Chamber and Jay Pritchet 😂😂😂

[@yes-wn4rq]

I love reading the tesla fanboys hating on Lucid. It just gives me more assurance that they are worried AHAHAHAHA #LUCIDTESLAKILLER

[@yes-wn4rq]

@Author B.L. Alley Exactly, small EV market share for now. And many people who have money don't buy Tesla because of the quality, so that might change with Lucid. They need the $$$ price tag to grow (economy of scale). After they establish themself as a quality manufacturer, the cheaper models will come. And remember, they don't sell cars; they sell technology. It would be best if you did more research before commenting. I don't hate Tesla. I'm an earlier investor, but I think Lucid will be a fantastic company and make a lot of people rich. But what do I know? I'm just a piano player...

[@killmoreturtles]

@@yes-wn4rq Hey, we need the bears. Most of these guys are not even bears though, they just have no vision at all. There are plenty of bears that can also see when a company is going to fail, they just actually can properly read the numbers/future/ tea leaves , etc. and can see the future business struggle, while the rest of the other " bears" just say stupid things like: " uh, duh..uh, they don't have profits yet. uh, duh, uh.. they don't have a car on the road yet" Some people just need to see it to believe it. But I , personally, am glad those types exist, because it keeps the price down for me. Then, ,once they see it, they come in and buy the stock at exorbitant prices, all the while lining the pockets of us tech players that can " see it" . We really should thank them for making us rich.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Dacia ist the best

[@jonathangibson4778]

Agreed

[@hussamalyafai3708]

@Author B.L. Alley camouflaged tesla fan boy 😎

[@chanukamayuranga3982]

Another next level innovation by Lucid..👌👍

[@thomasallerup2582]

Rival? Tesla has more car in space, than Lucid has to customer!

[@redaanalla9458]

Now lucid needs a burn heal after this roast 😏🤣🤣🤣

[@InvestBetter.]

Rawlinson to Lucid Motors may be the best thing that ever happened to Tesla, and the EV consumer. The Lucid Air is getting rave reviews and is worthy of your consideration.

[@ngocbui3761]

When haven’t produced a production car makes you Tesla’s biggest rival. 🙄

[@hussamalyafai3708]

The Lucid tech tells it all. Production is on its way. We are not talking years or month but weeks.

[@hippystreams]

Tesla fanboys are something else.

[@hussamalyafai3708]

@@hippystreams agreed 😀

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@hussamalyafai3708 "Lucid production is on its way" 20,000 next year. 40,000 2023. Source! Lucid Motors. Do some research.

[@gee3883]

At a glance @5:47 they almost look identical !

[@pim4798]

I do question why Lucid made a saloon car - that in my book is a fundamental error of judgment. Had they created an SUV, they would have 'milked' the market.

[@brunoheggli2888]

The Baby is so cute

[@danhersey2531]

They have an SUV coming

[@hussamalyafai3708]

It would be nice if they start the tri-motor setup in the 2023 Lucid Gravity. With roughly 1500hp it would be the quickest SUV in the world. A luxury SUV that can do 9.5 in the 1/4 mile and under 2.5 seconds 0 to 60 with 6 seats. It would cause quite a stir

[@danhersey2531]

@@hussamalyafai3708 The tri motor variant gets 2000hp by the way. But I just don’t think and SUV needs to do 9.5 in the QM. That just seems excessive. I think the plaid is overkill too.

[@hussamalyafai3708]

@@danhersey2531 Ageed, but having so much power and torque on tap making just everyday driving much more pleasurable. With such power overtaking is a breeze, a bit of throttle and the vehicle moves swiftly and gracefully. I just drove a Tycan turbo S a few days back and I was really impressed by how easy the power buildup even at half throttle and the ambiance is miles away from the model S 100d I had. Add a couple of more seats for the school runs or a 6 person dinner outing 👍 I know that's not everybody's cup of tea but hey to each his own. In addition Having 4 doors and SUV's achieving such performance shows what EV's can do especially to the ICE croud that are unaware of how far EV's have come and their potential. Having high range with faster charging makes us less reliant on chargers and opens up new markets until the charging services catchup. My 2 cents 😀

[@FatboySE103]

Sold my LCID stocks at 46, it’s 36 now. I hope I get some reasons to buy it back. I got TSLA stocks from the sale.

[@Don_Von_De_LaNooch]

Nice try… I think I’ll double down on my Tesla stock now

[@johngraham2470]

Why only double, you should quadrapul or pentaful

[@ooh2964]

Hey I can't believe dreams come true and it includes who and what would be a favorite in discussion of Electric Vehicle.

[@R355UR3C7]

Wait, so it took him 3years to design and build a Model S at Tesla. But has taken 8 years to do the same thing at Lucid?

[@Petlover-1y]

One day Peter Rawlinson will beg Elon Musk for a Cup of Tea

[@alanl3511]

Hmmmmm…. Tesla has been around for over 12 years and lucid less than a year… I don’t think lucid will be a problem for quite a few years….

[@UProductions457]

Tesla has the fastest accelerating production car in the world despite having competitors from car manufacturers 120 years old so who knows what these startups could do in a few year’s time.

[@alanl3511]

@@UProductions457 yes, I understand that. But when legacy car manufacturers say they should be where tesla is in 5 years. Do you think tesla will sit around for 5 years waiting for them to catch up? Very unlikely. Lucid has the edge, the CEO has the battery and motor technology from Atieva ( formula e cars) and the money from the kingdom in Saudi Arabia so he might climb the ladder a little faster as far as getting a dependable EV on the road. How many service center’s does lucid currently have nationwide? 3 maybe 4? Does he plan to have production plants worldwide like tesla? I know they plan to use electrify america as their charging stations. Right now electrify america is marginal at best for their quality of service. Yeah, I think lucid has a ways to go… I want to see how many years it takes to degrade that 500 mile battery of his. 10 year old tesla batteries have been degrading at a rate of 10% over 10 years. Wonder how the lucid battery will fair.

[@hussamalyafai3708]

@@alanl3511 Regarding battery degradation this is where range will play a huge role. Charging upto 80% and recharging at 20% can almost double the battery 🔋 life. That's much easier to do with Lucid owners as they start with much higher range. For a Long Range model S tesla starting with 405 EPA range at 10% degradation, after 5 years the vehicle will have approximately 200 miles of range vs 520 miles EPA range for the Lucid it should have a 260 mile range. Although Lucid has not delivered any cars yet but we can confirm that they have been successfully suppling formula E for 5 seasons now and their tech relies heavily on range under high performance conditions. There is more in Lucid's favour to do well in this category. Only time will tell.

[@UProductions457]

@@alanl3511 Legacy manufacturers have sustained riches and recourses from actually selling cars instead of the stock market like Tesla. They will catch up very soon. The only reason they are behind now is because we have the first EVs rolling out from these companies when Tesla has made them for 13 years. There is no doubt that some of the brilliant engineers that work for these automotive giants will bring new technology to the table. Think of these first attempts as a rushed essay that they did on the last day before it was due. The second attempts will be well thought out vehicles that will probably be really good.

[@alanl3511]

@@UProductions457 go to Munro live on KZbin and look at the dissection of the Mach-e. You will see how Ford piece mealed this vehicle together from a combination of ice vehicles and EV parts. If they don’t look at creating an EV from the ground up they will never catch up.. Lucid is ahead of the legacy car makers even though they have no EV cars on the road. Once Lucid gets rolling they will crush Ford, Chevy and dodge in the EV market… Peter knows how to build an EV, he should, he worked for Tesla for 10 years.

[@ArnoldJupiterOfficial]

I love seein this stuff...it makes me powerful

[@ricwilmot1654]

Wow Elon’s Competition hasn’t produced anything.

[@monroeyodong82]

Opportunist is the key to opportunity in it.