Exercise "Cheating"

[@TimRules2]

Might be the best video yet. These videos don't get anywhere close to the amount of views they deserve. It's a shame.

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Well, feel free to share it !

[@TimRules2]

PersonalTrainingdotcom Already did!

[@r302112]

I agree with you Tim. Great channel.

[@MobilityBrian]

I've learned more by watching 30 minutes of your videos than anything else on KZbin. You're the man, Tom.

[@styleyK]

I have been working as a fitness coach and personal trainer for 17 years now, and you have literally no.1 taken a picture of every day in any gym I have every worked in. No.2 literally explaining what I have been telling colleagues, clients and gym members for years now (I felt like the last human on the planet until now, because hardly anyone would listen). Thank you thank you for your videos, as now know that I'm not crazy! I knew I was right.

[@TrevorHamberger]

I look around at almost everyone in the gym and think about how stupid these people are. theres one guy that does these ridiculous incline dumbbell bench presses what seems like 7 days a week.

[@phaedrus6891]

I keep coming back to these videos. They are a diamond in the cesspool that is KZbin. Wish there were more.

[@VinceDelMonte]

I love this topic! What's next ? It's tough to sell "less" but you're doing a great job Tom!

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

We've got a few more coming up - perspectives on WOD, deadlifts, and some barriers to learning that we often face. Please continue to share these videos with your network and followers! -admin

[@edwardgbergersen]

What a great video! Just keep wanting to watch more..

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

More coming...

[@strengthcoachlondon]

Please can you address the phenomenon of the 90 degree shoulder press, where the dumbbell never drops lower than the top of the head, so tired of explaining that guys shoulder pain coupled with lack of growth all stems from half pressing too much weight with poor shoulder position and an overly extended t spine.

[@Gator762-v3o]

Would be nice if you also could show how to do the exercises more properly i think one of the reasons why so few do the exercises "correctly" is because no one really knows how.

[@Superkool453]

Branch Warren needs to see this video

[@strengthcoachlondon]

you win the comments😂😂

[@HamzaMahmud]

"If he can lift 100lbs strictly as a max, and then does 150lbs cheating, he isn't using (his biceps) to do any more than 100lbs" But that assumes he is producing the same force required to move that 100lbs throughout the curl motion (forgive my unscientific wording). Surely at different points in time during the curl motion, your biceps can effectively apply more/less force to move the bar - perhaps when you're at the most mechanically disadvantageous part of the movement your biceps are maxing out 100% effort at lifting 100lbs. But if you are at a more mechanically advantageous part of the movement your bicep is actually only using 80% effort and easily lifting 100lbs. What I'm getting at is that the strict curl is limited by your weakest point in the movement. Using 150lbs allows you to produce more effort at the more mechanically advantageous parts of the movement, assuming you "cheat" to get through the weakest parts.

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Why you described (if done well) could be a strategic way of altering the resistance profile. However in these examples, they are allowing the "momentum" from the "launch" to lighten the resistance through their way through the points of "strongest" position as well. -admin

[@HamzaMahmud]

+PersonalTrainingdotcom thanks for response, makes sense :)

[@Henrik_Holst]

+PersonalTrainingdotcom The question then is ofcourse if they ligthened the resistance throughout the movement so much that 150lbs turned into 100lbs, or if they even with this large amount of cheating made it > 100lbs. Which I guess is impossible to deduce from a video alone.

[@Schnupfndrache7]

lovd this channel. thx for the great work

[@AdamHorky]

I want to hit like more than once! Awesome video!

[@WantedDeaDorAIive]

3 proper examples why everyone complains about low back pain. Im not against the idea of using momentum in certain movements, but it has to be done well. Cheat curls in particular have been used to get more weight up to the top, and then focus on the eccentric part (thus adding more TuT to the set on a heavier weight).

[@hans2695]

2:32 - 2:35 You are wrong, he COULD be doing an eccentric contraction with 150lbs. There is a right way to use momentum

[@awsomenesscaleb]

Please make another video like this except about geared powerlifting and how the elastic energy in a special suit does not make one is lift any more weight than he can raw.

[@stevejones3628]

Great video Sir

[@mchealy90]

Great video as usual! I was wondering if you had any thoughts on using "cheat reps" on the concentric portion of movements in order to overload the eccentric portion.

[@JohnDLBB]

+Hampsted was wondering the same thing.

[@DrTopLiftDPT]

Nice

[@kiwishizzle]

How important would you say great hat posture is to a workout routine?

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

It is of utmost importance

[@revoxable]

Hi tom, Great video, i love it when you analyse other people! How about the eccentric part of the cheat rep. People are stronger in the eccentric part right? Isn't that the goal of the cheat reps?

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Did it look like they were doing something during the eccentric?

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

*something different during the eccentric

[@revoxable]

+PersonalTrainingdotcom No your right haha.. But would it have effect when we did a slow eccentric movement in lets say a cheat bicep curl?

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Then I'd say you potentially found a strategic use for "cheating" if done well and if applies to the goal.

[@MeleDrummer]

Do you teach online courses?

[@kristofszydlowski7668]

Hey RTS Team. Have a question about how I could convince my university to buy your product for the library. I dont know how they could look about your compentencies, because you dont have much information about that.

[@spaniascharalampos3651]

Greetings and congratulations for your videos, are really informative! I have one question: in the video of Obama doing lunges on the bench, why not to raise the other leg up? I mean it sure adds some kind of instability, if that's the goal.

[@brodyjames101]

Love your videos. Excellent info (for the most part), however lifting the opposite knee on a step-up actually increases the moment arm and causes a greater contraction in the support leg. It may look stupid but it can actually have benefits.

[@brodyjames101]

For example: 1. stand on your right leg with your left femur in anatomical position and your left knee bent to 90 degrees so that your foot is behind you. 2. Put your right hand on your right glute 3. Now lift your left leg to 90 degrees of hip and knee flexion (like in the video) whilst maintaining a neutral pelvis. 4. Feel the increased activation of your right glute.

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Well said sir - it would be good to talk about the moment arm specifics in that example, to make it fully objective, instead of just dismissing it completely due the commonly-applied mindless choreography of it - admin

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Thanks for the example. But let's stick with mechanical analysis for now, as the moment arm alterations can be explored objectively, while attempting to "feel" how much more a muscle "activates" is based on what you think your hand tells you while holding your glute, is subjective interpretation, and not the best place to start. The displacement of the "free" leg anteriorly does change the physics of the exercise, and we do know that an alteration in forces will alter the muscular demand... Specifically, displacing the center on mass of the hanging leg anteriorly will create a moment arm that does not only offer a challenge to the hip flexors on the same leg, but it will also alter the demands on the stationary leg. Also let's not forget that the potential increase in challenge from raising that leg may be small in comparison to more significant mechanical factors are not accounted for, such as positioning, tempo, and sequence of movement. Thank you for your input!!!! -admin

[@alanakeelingfitness7126]

In short, the human body is highly efficient. Aka lazy. Great video!

[@robdiaz6827]

and why kevin levrone gets results ??

[@edge21str]

What about the heavier loaded eccentric?

[@johntrains1317]

You have very valid points but don't you think there's something to be said about the cheating style when it comes to resisting a load for example in the curl that you showed what if he cheated to get the curl up at the top and then resisted slowing down the eccentric all the way down would that not be of valid method of cheating

[@billycasimir1469]

What are your thoughts on cheating on the concentric portion of the movement and fighting the eccentric portion? They say the eccentric is where the most muscle breakdown occurs. For example, cheating on the way up during a bicep curl and trying to go really slow on the way down.

[@buinhat6427]

that's something else. as you see all these idiots in the video are skipping that eccentric phase of the movements

[@blaiseman94]

Do you have a performance lab where you work with clients or??

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Yes.

[@phaedrus6891]

“Great hat posture” Hahahahahaha

[@robdiaz6827]

but what about cheating for doing negatives??? and work as hard not to let the weight drop????

[@unknownnypd]

Why people do it? Ego. Great videos. Keep them coming.

[@personaltrainingdotcom4016]

Looks cool to have bigger numbers -admin

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

jaja so great! we may call it "momentum abuse sindrome"

[@JackHou-vw7hs]

@branchwarren

[@ulfdanielsen6009]

More IS more. Yngwie Malmsteen taught us that, so it´s gospel.

[@TakezoMushashi]

It's just ego or ignorance on how to train properly.

[@gavhlev2853]

I think just ignorance. LOL