Exercise Scientist CRITIQUES ANDREW HUBERMAN’S Gym Advice...

In this video Dr Milo Wolf reacts to ‪@hubermanlab‬'s video titled: "Science of Muscle Growth, Increasing Strength & Muscular Recovery", to see if his gym & fitness advice is legit.
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[@RedSuspense]

There’s an idea Warren Buffett used to call the circle of competence, and there’s other names given by other people, but it’s that if you’re smart in one thing, you tend to assume that you’re smart in other things and tend to overestimate your ability to understand other fields, and I think Huberman tends to fall into that trap.

[@PickleRickDude]

Yes, and this explanation is so over complicated 😅 sounds super smart but way over complicated

[@BradleyZS]

Do you at least recognise that there is only about 2 things in the video they actually disagree on? A lot of people are quick to join in the hate, which isn't surprising since they clicked on a video with a clickbait thumbnail, but I'm amazed at how few people can see this.

[@RedSuspense]

@@BradleyZS Agreed, but I think Milo tends to use the language of source citation, but I did not perceive the same level of rigor in Huberman’s comments on this topic. I’ve listened to a lot of Huberman’s podcasts, but ultimately stopped in favor of others. His specialty is optic nerve signaling, and that’s a long way from exercise science.

[@BradleyZS]

@@RedSuspense Given that he didn't seem to understand that most of the time he wasn't actually disagree but rephrasing what was said, I don't think I'd trust this channel more than Huberman. When I want the direct science to be relayed to me, I watch House of Hypertrophy. This being the only video I've seen from this channel give me the vibe he will let reason come second place to entertainment. A video where you disagree is more entertaining, but when you're pretending to disagree for the sake of it (assuming he's not just incapable of understanding Huberman) it's less useful. I have to assume that's why so many people are again Huberman, his podcast is very boring, but if you want information and not theatre it's pretty good.

[@fdsm9211]

@@BradleyZS We do not hate him. we just do not think that his expertise extends to all fields of human physiology. It's nieve to think that of any person.

[@warrenhenning8064]

The Wolf's sweater and beard game cannot be touched. I guess he's pretty good at hypertrophy science too

[@WolfCoaching]

THANK YOU KING (the sweater is the only thing I care about anymore)

[@SassPeach]

@@WolfCoaching I do like the sweater, what brand is it?

[@LePrimo420]

@@SassPeachnot sure about the one in this video, but his cable knit from other vids looks very similar to the fisherman’s sweater from LL Bean that I highly recommend.

[@scottsherman5262]

I couldn't agree more, & I look forward to reaching the sweater phase of my journey. I'm just 5-months into weight training myself, so I'm in the every day is a tight-ish tee-shirt because I desperately want to show off muscularity that never used to exist. I dream of a day when all I need to do is toss on a damn sweater & exist in the confidence that everyone can still plainly see I've got too much muscularity...like I'm hogging all the muscles for myself. I train for one reason & one reason alone, to impress & intimidate other people.

[@Grassisgreenism]

Yes, the expertise is clear from the beard and the sweater.

[@NattyLegend1]

I admit to lying about the Henneman's size principle daily, I just cannot stop doing it no matter how hard I try

[@samuraibat1916]

You bastard. How could you hurt Huberman like this?

[@alexx1713]

Same!!!!

[@hanu9830]

a lot of his tips were just unnecessary and confusing. isolating muscles for hypertrophy vs compound movements for strength, flexing your muscles with your mind to figure out which have the most potential, making sure your sessions are under 60 minutes and doing 5 sets per muscle per week but taking 10% of your sets to failure...no one needed to hear any of that

[@jessejordan8116]

What’s ridiculous is that from an exercise expertise perspective he’s just some guy who used google but he’s delivering the speech like he’s describing his own area of expertise.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Thats literally almost everything hubernan talks about

[@yoeyyoey8937]

As in: all of his content

[@albyfregoso3960]

brother ignored how Huberman spoke about this in the context of neuroscience. absolutely baffling

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@albyfregoso3960 I guess hubernan could tell you how many stars there are in the sky in the context of neuroscience

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

Ha said in a pod that hes fried after one houer of lifting.. My squat alone takes 30 min

[@prod.bygygahurts304]

Ima get shit on but huberman definitely is not someone that should be listened to very often. Im sure he does good for some people, but he absolutely is misguided with some things.

[@eshankpanchal4121]

couldnt agree more

[@WolfCoaching]

I think this is fair. He tries to cover too many topics IMO

[@Christopher-md7tf]

I used to listen to his podcast religously and idolize him to a certain extent and I now 100% agree with this. The first doubts crept in when I actually checked up on a study about a certain movement protocol he mentioned in his ADHD episode and realized he totally misrepresented the methodology and results. Also, he kept mentioning time and time again in countless episodes that Cortisol activates the immune system, which I knew couldn't be true because my aunt reveives Cortison when she has an acute MS episode precisely to shut down her immune system. Then the next blow was when he had Robert Lustig on his podcast, because I knew enough about nutrition at that point to recognize low-carb insulin-model charalatans when I saw them. Since then I have read and watched multiple debunkings of claims he has made about various topics outside of his expertise by ACTUAL experts, such as Andrea Love's series of posts about his disastrous episode about the common cold and flu, and, yeah, he basically shouldn't be trusted when he's talking about anything but neuroscience and the visual system. And even then I would probably take everything he says with a grain of salt, given his propensity to make false claims with a lot of confidence.

[@Christopher-md7tf]

I used to listen to his podcast religously and idolize him to a certain extent and I now 100% agree with this. The first doubts crept in when I actually checked up on a study about a certain movement protocol he mentioned in his ADHD episode and realized he totally misrepresented the methodology and results. Also, he kept mentioning time and time again in countless episodes that Cortisol activates the immune system, which I knew couldn't be true because my aunt reveives Cortison when she has an acute MS episode precisely to shut down her immune system. Then the next blow was when he had Robert Lustig on his podcast, because I knew enough about nutrition at that point to recognize low-carb insulin-model charalatans when I saw them. Since then I have read and watched multiple debunkings of claims he has made about various topics outside of his expertise by ACTUAL experts, such as Andrea Love's series of posts about his disastrous episode about the common cold and flu, and, yeah, he basically shouldn't be trusted when he's talking about anything but neuroscience and the visual system, and even then I would probably take everything he says with a grain salt, given his propensity to make false claims with a lot of confidence.

[@shaqitup]

He has his expertise but he is often operating outside of it and speaks with a lot of confidence

[@inkwell101]

He is like the Neil deGrasse Tyson of fitness. Is an expert in something unrelated, and then thinks that makes him an expert on everything else.

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

Tyson is generally correct though, never heard him speak about things he's wrong about. I listen to his podcast every week and have for over 8 years.

[@wowandrss]

What? Clearly you're not familiar with his work/content at all. Fitness isn't some big part of his content, however when he posts these kinds of videos, based on talks with the experts, he is trying to distill the information he was presented. Also, of his last 20 podcasts, 1 is fitness related because it was with David Goggins.

[@b-sideplank]

​@@wowandrss your comment almost begins to make sense then falls apart with every sentence. What are you trying to say?

[@wowandrss]

@@b-sideplank the brain and hands aren't cooperating, I edited the comment. Does it make better sense now? And thank you.

[@b-sideplank]

@@wowandrss typing on phone? I feel you. pain in the ass, with all the swipe typing, autocorrect and other options, still can't come close to a real keyboard.

[@saiforos7928]

Isn't he reversing cause and effect? Slowing down sets does not result in greater hypertrophy by recruiting extra motor types. Rather going to failure ends in slower reps, where extra units are recruited. We see no distinction in rep speeds (within 2-8 secs), but do see greater hypertrophy approaching 0 reps in reserve

[@CW-ty4ty]

Yes. As far as I know, the tempo doesn't matter much for hypertrophy if weight is sufficient. However, slowing the eccentric especially in the transition phase back to concentric can help reduce injury.

[@epicadventureturtle1363]

Huberman the type of guy who looks at a study with 0 human trials, tested on 3 mice and with no peer reviews and be like: guys did you see this, if you fart every morning youll get 20/20 vision and quadruple your testosterone. 😂

[@markwelden7393]

yup. Grade A pseudo-intellectual hack that floated from popular to mega-fame on the buoyancy of Joe Rogan's fully inflated ego.

[@MiguePizar]

Finally someone critiquing this fake fitness influencer and "expert", there are a lot more out there though., Thanks Dr wolf and keep up the good work.

[@FitOneswithVarun]

Challenge is because Huberman is viewed as an authority for everything scientific by the general population, people do not look for info outside of him.

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

@@FitOneswithVarun interestingly there are very few scientists that agree with him, he serves only the non-science based community.

[@petriaspvik]

The conclusion at the end of the video was that it was mostly solid information from Huberman. 6/10, good enough for a beginner.

[@JaredandTasha]

@@FitOneswithVarunhow did you conclude that? that's pretty wild

[@FitOneswithVarun]

Just based on my experience with my professional community outside of lifting. They follows 4-5 people and view them as general subject matter experts in a field Ie Tim Ferris for productivity, huberman for science

[@markwelden7393]

Wolf, you have agruably the smartest comment section I've ever seen in a fitness sphere influencer. Loving it - subbed for the ride.

[@millie35998]

Dr Milo starting the ranges at "from a 300lb deadlift" when im still aiming to deadlift 300lbs 😢😅

[@nolanmarion69]

Thank you so much Dr. Wolf. He is a charlatan word smith. He genuinely believes what he is saying, I’ll give him that lol.

[@kjlltherooster1969]

Lol

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

You're contradicting yourself.

[@JaredandTasha]

@@user-ii7xc1ry3xyea the irony lololol

[@rupert909]

​@@user-ii7xc1ry3x where?

[@Ryan30z]

​@@user-ii7xc1ry3x a charlatan doesn't inherently mean they know what they're saying/doing is false. It comes from the Italian word for a quack. Charlatan is a perfectly appropriate word to describe someone who uses pseudoscience/ misinformation without being aware of it.

[@anonymousman4419]

It's been hilarious seeing how many guys ride this Huberman's dude's meat.

[@Failsafeman100]

Ah good ol' Huberman, the master extrapolator of cliffnotes

[@CODKenny1]

Do you have an example of him doing that?

[@Ryan30z]

​@@CODKenny1he extrapolates animal studies to human health outcomes all the time

[@CODKenny1]

⁠@@Ryan30z Those aren’t cliffnotes. Those are legitimate studies and he tells you when he’s citing them.

[@Ash-os7fc]

@@CODKenny1lmao

[@CP-bp7me]

This opinion is more cliffnote than huberman

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

Everyone's hating on Huberman these days. As Milo said, his advice was fine. It could have been much worse. Don't forget about the V-shreds and Liver Kings of KZbin, as well as pretty much (?) every Tiktoker. For us of the evidence-based fitness bubble sure, he might not quite cut it, but for everyone else, I would rather have them watch Huberman than some random content creator.

[@jonpageable]

The vibes I get from Huberman is that he is a massive bullshitter

[@scottsherman5262]

I want to agree, as nearly everyone like him is...but I don't quite think it's that simple. It's not that he's full of it, it's that he spends all day on the 2% instead of the 98% that does nearly all of the heavy lifting in life.

[@labtechtech]

@@scottsherman5262dude literally lived like 6 different lives with 6 different women, claimed he was exclusive with all of them and gave them stds. Bullshit and deception is his real expertise.

[@JaredandTasha]

@@scottsherman5262how so?

[@SakuragiLastname9]

The further away he gets from his expertise the less valid his information is

[@paulgaras2606]

Huberman trying to reinvent the wheel.

[@markl4730]

While his expertise is in neuroscience, but that dosent mean his advice in neurosoience is good

[@danteghazizadeh1656]

I barely know anything about him, but seeing that he teaches neuroscience at Stanford makes me think he gives good neuroscience advice.

[@vitkucera1116]

ANDREW HUBERMAN = expert on everything

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

No, he is just recaping info

[@HomeGymAustralia]

I’ve always found that you “build” mind muscle connection. Maybe I’m just learning to move properly but I never really had a good MMC until I was at least 6 months through lifting seriously

[@killerkhatiby009]

Dr. Wolf, during an RDL/SLDL, if your only goal is maximal hamstring and glute hypertrophy, would you recommend keeping the barbell close to your shins or letting it drift forward with your arms on the way down? Everywhere I can find says the ideal technique is to keep the barbell close to the legs/shins, but that seems like it would be optimized for strength and maximizing the amount of weight lifted but suboptimal for maximizing tension in the hamstrings/glutes with any given weight since letting the arms drift forward would increase the moment arm and allow you to use lighter weight while maintaining the same tension on the target muscles as heavier weight close to the body. Basically, it seems to me that reducing the weight and letting the bar drift forward creates similar lever arm and forces to a Goodmorning and a better stimulus-to-fatigue ratio, but nobody talks about doing it this way. Am I missing something here? Would love some clarity and explanation for your reasoning on the subject!

[@Failsafeman100]

You'll likely get a ridiculous lower back pump that will inhibit proper overload if you keep the bar away from your shins

[@killerkhatiby009]

@@Failsafeman100 Can you explain your reasoning a little more? My understanding is that the forces on the lower back would be the same either way assuming you reduce the weight on the bar to compensate for the increased challenge that allowing the bar to drift forward creates. As the bar gets further it increases the moment arm and thus the forces traveling up through your arms into your shoulders and down the back to the hips and hamstrings would be about the same in both situations so long as you're adjusting the weight accordingly to hit the same target reps and proximity to failure. AFAIK, the tension on the muscle is directly related to weight x distance. So you can achieve similar forces on the muscle with either heavier weight close to the body or lighter weight further away. And since either way you have the bar positioned the forces have to travel through the lower back to get to the hamstrings/glutes it's my understanding that it wouldn't make much difference either way in terms of load on the lower back. I could totally be wrong though! But by lowering the weight on the bar you're saving a little time and energy from having to load more plates to get to a working weight and the fatigue of synergists like grip would be reduced and so you achieve a better stimulus to fatigue ratio by keeping stimulus/forces the same but reducing the fatigue and thus it seems like drifting the bar forward would be the better technique for most people if the goal is purely hypertrophy of the hams/glutes. I'm no expert though, just my thoughts looking at it from a very simplistic biomechanical point of view.

[@Failsafeman100]

@@killerkhatiby009 I can't explain why, sorry, outside of my depth of knowledge. I'd also like to hear Milo's take on this. I just know from experience that my lower back gets lit up if the bar drifts forward, it's being forced to deal with huge torque. FWIW I regularly do deficit RDLs for higher reps and they're a pain free way of torching the hamstrings without heavy loading

[@killerkhatiby009]

@@Failsafeman100 No worries! I definitely see that it makes the torque much higher, when I let the bar drift forward I find I have to lower the weight by around 30% to 40% in order to hit the same reps and proximity to failure compared to keeping the bar close to my body and using the heavier weight. But that's exactly why I do it! Keeps high forces on the target muscles with lower weights and fatigue on everything else. I actually combine this technique with two deficits, one created by standing on some plates, and another by only using 25lb plates and smaller on the bar. I end up having a large ROM while using pretty light weights but I still feel a great hamstring and glute stimulus that leaves me sore for a few days at least. Seems to me like it's the highest SFR way to perform the movement. But I think it would also depend on your torso and limb proportions where I don't think bar path would make as much impact on someone shorter.

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

Why the f are you doing rdl for bicep femoris and gee max where the muscles dont streach?

[@rinkuhero]

to be fair, after lifting weights for 15 years, the muscles i can't voluntary contract are the muscles that tend to be lagging behind. e.g. i can't contract my pecs or my calves on command, and i can with every other major muscle group, and many minor ones (even the tibialis i can contract on command, but not the calves), and the calves and chest are my least developed body parts. so i wouldn't say what he said in that regard is impossible, just that it hasn't yet been studied. it isn't the same as the 'mind-muscle' connection, because the mind-muscle connection is about 'feeling' the muscle while you are training it. this is just about being able to voluntarily easily contract it when you aren't training it (e.g. flexing your pecs, it's not something i can do). i've heard that some people have 'glutial amnesia' and can't contract the glutes at all, and i don't have that problem, but for those that do, maybe growing the glutes is harder than for others.

[@Satarnoch]

I can flex my glutes easily on command but i have no ass at all.

[@senzatieee]

Naaah I can flex most of my big muscles i.e chest bsck hamstrings etc., it's a different skill entirely.

[@WhopperCheeseDota]

I don't know what you think "contract on command" means but unless you are basically paralyzed in your chest you can do this haha. If you can stand on your tippy toes you are contracting your calves

[@d3rpn1nj47]

To my knowledge the debate on bone mineral density is contingent upon how the muscles themselves exert more force on the bones then the load exhibits onto them to actually move the load. I am not an expert on this at all but this is more context for the debate if anyone was wondering. Even though I'm not a fan of Andrews content I do believe there is some misuse of environment size I do believe there is some misuse of environment size I do believe there is some misuse of hennemann size principle from people like Chris Beardsley and Paul Carter with their low velocity low rep approach.

[@AdamMc192]

Excellent video

[@zayin_beats517]

Why are people hating on Huberman in the comments while the guy in the video is basically giving additional explanations most of the time😂

[@fdsm9211]

Because he acts like an expert on all maters of human physiology. No one is.

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

Caus sometimes he recaping good info.. Byer bevare though

[@zayin_beats517]

@@fdsm9211 No he doesn’t. In the beginning he tells you he is a neurobiologist (or something of that sort), which translates to ‘expert in neurobiology’, not ‘expert in everything’. That’s your problem if you don’t realise that.

[@geneharrogate6911]

A common denominator between the likes of Huberman and his new age biohacker ilk is the to ease with which the speak on topics way outside their field of expertise. Legitimate authorities rarely ever behave like that.

[@leodegas7731]

I think I understand what huberman is saying about mind muscle connection. Sometimes when you try to work on your rear delts, you might use other muscle to move the weight, especially on a machine like more of your traps or back. The delts get some work out but not as much if you don't know that other muscle are doing more of the work. I don't know my muscle names and exact functions, but I hope I made sense. Oh, another example is, if you're trying to work your glutes but another muscle does more of the work, but you get the same movement. If you activate your glutes first, you know at least that the glutes will be more affected at its potential when you do the lift, compared to doing a lift but other muscles do more of the work. Just my opinion. Edit: I think hubernan is talking about being more deliberate or optimizing your workout. Either way you lift you can get bigger, but lifting with intent or mindfully gets you better results for the most part. Again, just my opinion.

[@cuperlife]

He’s ratio of minutes talked to facts stated is pitiful

[@alpenjodel24]

What I hate most about people like Huberman is, that people like him have opinions on everything that they sell as facts or knowledge, even tho it’s at best personal anecdotes.

[@JoshBenware]

Relaying info from studies and metas is anecdotal? Also, he never claimed to know it all. That's why he uses studies and brings on experts. As far as relaying info from such a broad range of areas, I think he does better than anyone else at this point in time. Is he perfect? No. Is anyone else doing as good a job on such a wide range of topics? No.

[@CP-bp7me]

I am very critical about Huberman - but the guy cites academic study as primary source material, not anecdotes

[@alvarorojas3519]

He's not giving opinions, bud. He's mentioning studies and the science behind his comments.

[@user-xv2sx8se1t]

From listening to many of Andrew’s podcasts, he mostly stays in his area of expertise. He does have experts in many areas on his show.

[@lorkas233]

I really appreciate the comments distinguishing lifting for health from lifting to maximize strength or size. I'm lifting now on my late thirties after recovering from a back injury that probably would've been prevented if I'd been stronger. I've just deadlifted 5x225lbs for the first time, and I've been thinking a lot about whether I should just continue my twice a week routine and allow my strength to plateau wherever it naturally plateaus on this routine, or if I should be aiming for a specific number that offers a balance of health benefits and training commitment. Do you have any thoughts about this? Right now I'm inclined toward the first approach, but how will I know if it's meeting my goals?

[@archdukefranzferdinand567]

Don't have any data supporting this, just based off my personal experience, but I think that health benefits of going to the gym follow a pretty logarithmic curve. Going from 0 days at the gym to 1-2 days at the gym is a massive benefit, but beyond that benefit is minimal. If you just want to focus on overall health a combination of resistance training and cardio is probably what's going to be best.

[@Himhymn_]

You mentioned that 3-5 sets would be a generally good range to maintain muscle week to week, but wouldn't this be drastically different if the trainee was in surplus, deficit, or maintenance calories? Also i feel like this could also be different if novel exercises were programmed every x weeks since the novel stimulus might bring down the total number of minimum effective sets. What do you think, Milo? Also not a professional, just a filthy hobbyest

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

Nope. 5 sets is like one exorcise. If your used to doing 5 or 3... Doing 5 set would be a warm up.. Walking to fridge...

[@googlymooglyman]

Hey doctor Wolf, I would love to see a video about bilateral vs unilateral training. I’m conflicted on whether I should still use split squats even though I vastly prefer just doing regular squats in my routine. Based on your videos, I have yet to understand the benefit of a split squat over a bilateral squat, if there is any

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

Injurie, mobility, strenght inbalance, sport related idiosynacrisies..

[@Yupppi]

It's interesting how Huberman seems to pick the least favourable/charitable presentation, generalize it to apply to everyone in the field, weaponize it and attack the whole field. From his strong position of neuroscience. But you know, Dr. Glaucomflecken in his comedy bits about hospital world always does present the neurosurgeons as the most douchey and self-absorbed character. So this kinda keeps the narrative consistent. Yet this seems to be one of his most coherent/reasonable information recently. Didn't he also use Jeff Cavaliere of Athlean-X as the expert in his show? Perhaps explains some narratives. But what I'm a bit confused about is that I thought it was in the reference frame of trying to avoid muscle loss while aging, but then he went in all directions. It took me like 2 years to start feeling my other hamstring and lat and I'd claim I managed to grow decently due to the weight moved anyway. On the other hand I used to do squats and deadlifts with a strong back extension, it absolutely made me feel my lower back. However it just cut my training really short for fatigue of the back, I wouldn't say it grew me a lot in comparison. In the biggest lifts it's so difficult to feel the tension in the specific muscle during the exercise even though you get really exhausted in those muscles and grow a ton. Just anecdotal observations, but I think most of us can relate to that.

[@juanps2721]

8/10 sweater, needs more texture

[@BoidsOfDoom]

Mostly viewed Huberman’s solo podcast in the genre of literature review, they are fine for what they are. Its a shame he is consumed by anyone as the “protocol guy,” it actually does a disservice to what he provides - an into to the work of other scholars

[@strongchad8130]

unrelated to the video but what is your opinion on weighted stretching? as in no concentric. think farmer walks/rack pulls. i remember this being a big topic of discussion like 4/5 years ago but i'm curious to hear your thoughts.

[@gasparsigma]

14:30 What? Isolating the muscle is not a requirement for hypertrophy, you can do any kind of activity that challenges all your muscles in a natural way they'll still get larger if you're sufficiently fed

[@itsmyboardwhotalk]

Ive heard the things with the cramping already a few times, I had a coach (highest leauge volleyball) teaching us that (focused on sports on my school, he was a teacher) from two sport scientist and physio therapist, who worked with a top football club and I think jeff cavalier said something similar. would be interested in whats the case and were those infos coming from

[@Mikeztarp]

17:40 Good use of Prokofiev's Dance of the Knights. :)

[@choosetolivefree]

When I found Andrew a few years ago, the video titles sound amazing, and all the stuff he describes sounds amazing. But I was always like, well, ok, but, HOW do I do that? Like this man said, his "advice" isn't practical, which makes it worthless. He just likes to hear himself talk using thick technical jargon so lay can't even understand a thing he's saying, so he can feel smart and cool. That sums up Andrew Huberman

[@choosetolivefree]

15:30 "Comes across as an obvious 'duh'" Yup. That's pretty much Huberman's stuff in a nutshell.

[@Yo64130]

I remember criticizing Hubermann that he is a Joe Rogan skin and some people defending he is a doctor or something

When you say “generally get stronger, and ones they reach that they don’t need to go to the gym 7 days a week”. What are those strengths standards?

[@conciglio5576]

Warmed my heart when alot people finally started to figure out that Huberman is a grifter hack.

[@The_MKUltra]

Don't see how you can come to that conclusion. He speaks to experts, reads studies, and tries to present info that in digestible for every day people.

[@whateverdope]

From one extreme to the other, eh?

[@Kahva123]

​@@The_MKUltra While his intentions may be good, he does tend to talk about stuff that's out of his expertise. This leads to him making errors and claims that are just not scientifically sound. I think he should be more careful with how he presents certain information. Overall his communication could do with a bit more nuance. I've seen too many clips of Huberman's claims debunked by professionals to trust the man fully. Hence rendering his podcast useless as I feel like I should fact check everything he's saying. Oh, one more thing. The fact that he's promoting Athletic Greens is very concerning in my mind. The product is an absolute scam but nets insane amounts of money to it's promoters. Truly disgusting.

[@BradleyZS]

@@The_MKUltra You're dealing with the kind of person who needs another person to tell him what the first person is wrong about, and the type of person who's clicking on clickbait thumbnails. You're in the wrong for expecting anything more from him.

[@akalion213]

Dude doesnt even know how to read studies. His video on hair loss is laughable.

[@LiamLiftsDaily]

Im really curious what made huberman think upper motor neuron connection was so closely correlated to muscle hypertrophy and if there really is anything there

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

30% of 1RM? Sounds like not even enough weight for a warm up, let alone strength/ hypertrophy

[@watsonkushmaster3067]

That was suprisingly good...i remeber him talking about 10x10 on compound movements being optimal or whatever but this was ok

[@sergeimaximov6950]

Mentioning full ROM and failing to mention lengthened partials is going to negatively affect the final score, probably.

[@michaelvitale8810]

From my experience, you can learn to contract a muscle over time. If you ask untrained people to flex their chest they cannot however, over time they develop the ability to.

[@gasparsigma]

2:54 Wait, you're at a *higher risk* than baseline of all cause mortality if you lift more than 4h per week? What population was that sampled on?

[@aksdoaskd]

My problem with huberman is he peddles ag1 which means I can't trust anything he recommends which is sad.

[@markl4730]

12:30 yes, I have his sources. The bros at the gym saying "its all about mmc bro"

[@aodoemela]

Are those reaction clips fake / slowed down lol.

[@stevenjezyk9435]

Huberman was highly consulted by Galpin and his explanations were actually informative for the inexperienced trainee.

[@inkwell101]

Galpin who says "ok, great." Every 5 sentences?

[@stevenjezyk9435]

Smart dude, though.

[@AswollAlpaca]

@@inkwell101that’s all you got from that amazing series of podcasts? Do you have an attention span of a grape?

[@inkwell101]

@AswollAlpaca sorry, am I supposed to type up in a comments section everything I learned from hours of a conversation to clarify who Galpin is? That seems like it wouldn't be very efficient. Do you give driving directions to someone by describing every feature of every house on every street or do you think it's perhaps better to just say "turn right on 14th street and then take a left on Grape street"? Use your brain, doofus.

[@inkwell101]

And honestly those Galpin conversations were full of saying the same thing over and over again and in ever drawn out ways. "So you want to do 5 reps? Ok, great. That's half of ten. Or to put it another way, it's a quarter of 20 or an eighth of 40. So we've established that. Ok, great. So in our set of 5, that's 1 rep, then 2, then 3 and so on."

[@munyangsan]

"Who hurt you Hubey?" 😆 pmsl

[@ar23x]

Heard too much Haberman, i think it'd be better if you just point out his mistakes, summarise his waffle and link his video in description, future proofing, this was too much React React type video

[@THCBach]

But can you bench press five simultaneous girlfriends?

[@inkwell101]

That point about flexing the calf muscle using just your brain always perplexed me. It's the only major muscle group i can't flex by simply thinking. Yet, my calves are decently proportioned with the rest of my body and i dont even work them out much.

[@2o3ief]

Its a terrible point and a misguided. The reason you can flex your chest super hard without "moving" is because your shoulder is moving... Muscles are attached to bones, they cannot change length without acting on those attachments.

[@WhopperCheeseDota]

If you can move your ankle up and down you are flexing your calf

[@nwmxrider]

Started flexing my calves as while reading this. Damn it. You got me.

[@user-he4ef9br7z]

​@@2o3iefYou can definitely flex without movement. Try it your arms.

[@2o3ief]

@@user-he4ef9br7z sure, but flex hard, shit moves a little bit, and that is more and less true for different muscles

[@zacharylaschober]

11:31 anecdote but I have no ability to consciously contract my lats as being suggested... and they're disproportionately big and strong and I am also a climber and climbing coach. obviously my training history has influence on the development, but I can flex my pecs easily and see little growth from cable flies and wide bench. This seems like an effort to invert the mind muscle connection cult of needing to feel the muscle to get stimulus or at least backtrack from this. The muscles work the joints in the movement... move the joints, engage the muscle.

[@user-he4ef9br7z]

I have been contracting a certain muscle (hard) for years but it never seems to grow at all.

[@ikaramba3954]

Hmberman just doesn’t understand the difference between data driven science and his own speculation/hypotheses. It’s what makes him a bad scientist.

[@levonpanek5382]

Do we know of any research of neuromuscular connection vs pure strength for muscle growth?? Have you ever seen a bodybuilder or a powerlifter!?! lol look at the best 100 bodybuilders vs 100 best powerlifters. We don’t need “studies,” we just need to open our eyes..

[@enumclaw79]

Sorry, but where does he get the idea that sports science doesn't understand the range of weights needed? Where has he got the the 30-80% from, if not sports scientists? These numbers come from the research of people like Robert Morton & Brad Schoenfeld who are..... sports scientists!

[@welanduzfullo8496]

12:49 There is in fact no research 😭

[@giuliam2531]

Mind muscle connection concept completely missed

[@enumclaw79]

His "compound = strength, isolation = hypertrophy" thing is largely nonsense unless we agree bench press's and rows don't build muscle size, and that no-one has large lats because they're almost impossible to isolate, except perhaps with straight-arm pulldowns, which I rarely see anyone do. There certainly is truth in the idea that if you want to build a specific muscle then finding an isolation exercise for it is a good idea because you can work the muscle hard with low systemic fatigue, but to outright say compound movements don't build muscle size is absurd.

[@davorzdralo8000]

Bench press is shit at building muscle size, and rows are almost completely an isolation exercise.

[@enumclaw79]

@@davorzdralo8000 neither of those statements are true. Bench can put plenty of mass on your chest, while rows engage most of your back as well as your biceps. Most compounds have a main muscle, that doesn't make them into isolation moves. He gives pullups as an example of a compound that can't grow size. Those are closer to a lat isolation than a row, but even Huberman correctly identifies them as compound.

[@davorzdralo8000]

@@enumclaw79 bench can put muscle on chest, yes, but it's one of the weakest lifts for that. And if you are rowing with your bicep engaged 😂😂😂 you couldn't be rowing more incorrectly.

[@enumclaw79]

@@davorzdralo8000 oh, so now bench can put muscle on your chest? Well Huberman said it couldn't, which is what I comment on. Either bunch can build mass or it can't. Huberman said it can't. I'm saying it can. I never said it was the best. Who are you disagreeing with? Can you even remember what you point was now? I'm certainly not sure what you're trying to pick a fight about

[@davorzdralo8000]

@@enumclaw79 Oh my fucking god, you can't be this stupid. Literally any exercise can put muscle on in the most literal sense, it's about what is effective and efficient, you mouthbreather.

[@angmori172]

10 minutes in and only minor nitpicking

[@jaz_ok]

I must disagree, at my strongest I was smaller , when I isolated , I wasn't at my strongest but i am at my biggest, Too many BS studies are destroying real size training methods and not to mention the drugs .

[@usandmexico]

A score of 6 /10 is a fail in some higher ed courses.

[@reecepayne3440]

Huberman is massively misunderstood. I'm not saying he isn't or hasn't been wrong about things before but people misunderstand that he spends about 2 weeks combing through the literature on various topics to make videos designed for the average person to understand. For many of the topics he makes videos on he consults his colleagues and may eventually get them on his channel to go into more depth. He doesn't claim to be an expert on every topic, he simply does his best and is human after all. The hate he receives is from typical noncomfortmists, jumping on bandwagons and judging a book by its cover. For the 1000 things he gets right, people love to dog on him for the one he gets wrong.

[@Ash-os7fc]

Lmao

[@reecepayne3440]

@@Ash-os7fc great rebuttal, case dismissed.

[@Ash-os7fc]

@@reecepayne3440 lold

[@kren4449]

I can make my lats jump around like some people do with the pecs 😎

[@gokukakarot1855]

For the algorithm

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Andrew Hubris,man

[@Zach0451]

Why are you referencing preprints to justify your arguments...?

[@jusducks07]

No wonder his fans are obsessed with sleep. Zzzzzzzzz

[@Sam_Saraguy]

He has given some very good advice on sleep. It helped me a great deal.

[@TheHybrid350]

Great

[@falsificationism]

Excellent video! Huberman is such a bullsh*tter. People who try to be experts at everything because they have a PhD are dangerous. I'd suggest he stick to neuroscience, but he's in my field and as far as I can tell, he's mostly a podcaster now. Because of his affiliation, he's published in some high quality journals, but his citation count is basically the size of a small town. I'd turn to podcasting if I could run my mouth better than I could produce research, too! His advice here was fairly generic, but he opines on everything from sleep to diet and everything under the sun. Never trust "experts" who seem to have extremely broad expertise...those people are extremely rare and tend to have a track record of actually connecting various disciplines or creating entirely new ones (i.e., Chomsky, Darwin, Graeber, Newton).

[@08mario08]

There’s something about this guy I don’t like. Idk maybe it seems like he tried to be an expert in everything and then sells you snake oil

[@christoft.2580]

I‘m not a huberman fan, have not listened to his podcast till now. But you made a video „critiquing“ him, but all you did was agreeing with him and then give him a 6/10. I hated teachers in university doing that 😂😂

[@minhnguyenthai5582]

Go ahead debunk dr Andy Galpin at his guess series. I dare you

[@hiker-uy1bi]

always got scammy vibes from Huberman

[@georgesarreas5509]

You were soooooo lenient on him. He is literally missinforming people because of his ignorance. Like... I thought he was better before i watched anything. Now I'm terrified of people who follow him if they have this confidence in... Basically his lies

[@davorzdralo8000]

They literally agree on 95% of the stuff. No idea why people in the comments are making it out as if Huberman was just spouting nonsense 100% of the time.

[@drednac]

Why are so many people so afraid of heavy weights? Yes you can injure yourself more likely but injuries are still very very rare. Unless you get very very strong and train with proper safety measures (as everybody should) the fear of injury is simply not justified. Lifting heavy weight is far more effective at increasing strength. It is important to also realize that what is "heavy weight" depends on the person .. as Ronny Coleman used to say .. if you can lift it, it's lightweight :D

[@davorzdralo8000]

I don't agree that injuries are very rare as you start hitting that 95% max zone. Just look at powerlifters, most of them are always nursing one injury or another. It's basically a competition of who can get injured less while still getting some strength. Up to about 80% it's all great, but going truly heavy on bench/squat/dead is hard as fuck on your body. For 99% of people who don't compete, sticking to lower (not low) weight and doing 5-15 reps is much better.

[@peetos-chan2835]

💪💪💪

[@AswollAlpaca]

Are majority of the comments coming from bots? 😅

[@speedftw32]

Huberman another clown who reports to have an 8 year certificate so that he can huff his own hot air over every topic even marginally related to health & performance.

[@elliotbgardner]

Off the bat, why are you making assumptions what he’s going to say. He never said anything about dead lifting period. You basically said the exact same thing he said. This is baaaaddd

[@shreyam1008]

In all, for general people with no fitness knowledge. He did excellent and hit all the major parts thsn most other influences do.

[@kendrick5753]

This video is not entirely accurate, but he does have other videos on his podcast which includes guess stars who are professionals in their fields that explains the process better. Andrew has admitted to not ķnowing everything in regards to fitness since it's not hos area of study. Dont be too hard on the guy. I recommend listening or watching some of his other vids that showcase that he has come a long way in his pursuits of higher learning.

[@Matty-pn9fy]

Then why did he make this video?

[@kendrick5753]

@Matty-pn9fy Are you the type who just focus on people past mistakes and refuse to accept that they can do better? Just curious 🤔

[@WhopperCheeseDota]

Most of the "experts" he has on peddle the same mechanistic pseudoscience that huberman does.

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

His other stuff is much worse. He's a charlatan to the point of being dangerous.

[@kendrick5753]

@WhopperCheeseDota I see. Well, that belief is all fine. But the point was to not be so hard on the guy. In a world where we are responsible for our own minds, it's kinda sad to pour so much energy into something we don't agree with. I wonder what that would say about someone who does pour in that much effort onto something that can easily be avoided.

[@BradleyZS]

Really poor video. You should a have taken more time to understand what he is saying, most of the things you frame as a disagreement are you just not understanding what he is saying or trying to preemptively argue against something he didn't say. If this were a live reaction that would be understandable, but since this is a video you went back and edited (or maybe you pay a editor, but I presume you at least gave it a second listen) you have no reason to include arguements that don't apply. It comes off as being very manipulative, rephrasing the things Huberman is saying in a way more easily understandable to garner support from a less educated audience while doing no additional work.

[@mrddcass6540]

It's always the guys with millions of views who are the most full of sht.

[@ivan06pr]

bro tryna be dr Mike Israetel (no hate keep going bro)

[@WhistlerPinnacle]

this is no Dr. Mike, unsubscribe

[@giuliam2531]

Dr Mike would have interrupted the video 5 times after the first few minutes 😂😂I can imagine his face like 😤😤

[@mowhmo]

NERDS

[@heisman987]

This is so sad. This is one of the worst “critiques” I have ever seen. I wasn’t even a big Huberman fan, but I’ll be listening to him a whole lot more after this.

[@Omar1066]

Please could you elaborate what are your objections?

[@heisman987]

@@Omar1066 of course. For starters, the guy in the video had this demeanor the whole time as if he was going to argue against everything huberman had to say, as if huberman was some charlatan who spews lies constantly. Then he proceeded to basically agree with everything that he said. More on that later. All of the things that he disagreed with, were kinda silly. It was like he was just being pedantic, nitpicking tiny minute details or the way Andrew phrased things, many times even saying, I disagree, but this isn’t in my purview or I’m not sure if that’s even what he’s trying to say etc etc. He tried to claim at one point that that 10% rule Andrew brought up was, “totally made up” and that “there’s no data for that” completely ignoring the fact that huberman literally cited a colleague, dr gelpin I believe when making the claim. Is it possible that the Stanford professor knows about a bit more research, or knows more people than the random guy on KZbin? There’s more I could bring up but I’d have to go back and rewatch the video. But possibly the most egregious thing was at the end when he gave the, let me repeat myself, the Stanford professor, a 6/10, as if he barely said anything of merit, after, as I said, he basically agreed with everything that he said. He literally agreed with 80-90 percent of what he said, so the score he should have given him was an 8 if not a 9. I mean look at the thumbnail. Just from that, you’d think you’re about to hear some absurd shit and I could literally argue that everything he said was correct. Mainly by arguing that everything this guy argued against, wasn’t even what Andrew was saying. He was twisting his words.

[@Omar1066]

@@heisman987 thank you for explaining I appreciate your response.

[@heisman987]

@@Omar1066 sure thing man. I ain’t a hater. I actually try to be objective as possible. There’s more I could go into but like I said, I’d have to rewatch it. If you want me to, i probably could. But if it doesn’t matter to you then I’ll just leave it be

[@Omar1066]

@@heisman987 thank you I appreciate your response. I like to hear opposing views to help educate me. You’ve given me enough to go on.

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

his fitness advice is the least worst advice he gives