Exercise Scientist Critiques Dr. Joel Seedman's Absurd Training Antics

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[@archangel2781]

Why did you call Joel Seedman White? He's clearly Jewish. Seedman is a joke, and us Jewish folks need to own this one instead of passing the buck on to White folks! 😅

[@michaelm9710]

How about doing an unstable exercise after one of the staples? I was trained by a guy who trains gold medal Olympians (this was 20 years ago). He swore by this method. Eg. Chest press superset by pushups on a bosu or Swiss/therapy ball. Front squat or back squat superset with bodyweight squats on bosu ball or Swiss ball?

[@cameronhill2793]

😊

[@alexdenommee3219]

My videos are literally better than this Joel Seedman's videos, and I'm just a random burnout. Actually wild.

[@allmightlionthunder5515]

The ball thing is crazy he was and he was not enjoying it lol

[@srleplay]

It's super funny how Mike was extra nice to Joel first time around, but by now has no patience left for his BS

[@cm6875]

There’s an old super training podcast I think ? Where they debate for a bit

[@emmang2010]

Mikes also on tren now and if you're a long time viewer you can tell in these types of videos

[@HeadCannonPrime]

@@emmang2010 yep. Got that head vein just pulsing with the rage. He's not wrong, its just funny to see him get worked up.

[@emmang2010]

@@HeadCannonPrime It really is.

[@steelfalconx2000]

Haha I was wondering why he was so nice the first time. This is good to see 😆

[@tappie34]

An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity. - Terry Davis

[@Karan-Aujla]

Although I get how it fits here, I'd like to ask Terry Davis if admiring the F35 is stupidity.

[@peas42]

irreducible complexity is sometimes just as impressive.

[@axyndey]

@@peas42 agreed

[@zach4968]

Sooo the scientists admiring the infinite complexity of the cosmos and reality are idiots? Einstein was an idiot?

[@eetswalads5528]

I cannot believe that God's chosen programmer genuinely said that

[@-Azure.EXE-]

The most annoying thing about Seedman is that apparently 80% of the time, he trains people with the standard stuff even though his Instagram reel is only the useless stuff. Dude is just a boring clickbaiter.

[@michaelchurch2262]

I was going to comment, but you beat me to it. Seedman's 80/20 principle: do standard lifts 80 percent of the time, complex lifts 20% of the time. Basically, grow and get stronger from the 80% and do the 20% for ... reasons.

[@pedrog5846]

I find it annoying that he uses such jargon, which is fine for some audiences, that will reach mostly casual viewers. They may not understand some of it and just assume that it is totally correct!

[@emmang2010]

Is it just me or does Joel looks like Eric Helms.

[@pablov1323]

​Yeah. He is Eric Helm s evil twin​@@emmang2010

[@-Vulcan]

I know he says that but I don’t believe him

[@danielhoyt4134]

Had a V-Shred add pop up while watching this. Perfect timing!

[@Inventor1488]

AVERAGE V SHREAD W

[@dokho7iday]

Got hit with a bunch of v shred ads while watching Dr Mike dismantle v shred’s bullshit. Hilarious irony.

[@wills2397]

Doing my eccentric isometric hip hinged banded explosive box squat jumps with the earthquake bar and super setting with isolateral dual kettlebell static swings while watching this video.

[@sheriannnorris5542]

*hits you with bosu ball

[@notnoaintno5134]

Holy shit I couldn't read more than a few words of that

[@imadumas2]

Yeah, but are you doing it at 90 degrees?

[@HelloHello-zk4el]

consider this one added to my crossfit routine

[@mikopaq]

😂😂😂

[@NathanAntonetz]

The worst part about that neck ball nonsense is that athlete is Chris Carson, an incredibly tough running back for Seattle Seahawks, who unfortunately had to retire prematurely because of *checks notes* a NECK INJURY. I'd call that poetic justice if I didn't feel so bad for Mr. Carson who was indeed a tough football player. Can't make this stuff up.

[@jimjambananaslam3596]

And this doctor is apparently bopping him in the head with a yoga ball during deadlifts as rehabilitation lol.

[@MMAMatticus]

The guy who he’s hitting with the ball, Chris Carson, had a career ending neck injury too.

[@TruckNutzMudSlutz]

He has that wildass video where he’s bonking him in the head with a ball too, absolutely hilarious

[@frostedflakes55]

No way seriously!? Confirmation of total nonsense fr omg

[@devon3800]

Looked this up and you're absolutely right

[@dylanbepis570]

Lmao

[@luisz3354]

And he proudly posts that non of his athletes get injured… this comment should be pinned 100%

[@lloyd011721]

joel is proof that you can get a decent physique just by doing... literally any thing in the gym as long as you go consistently

[@azzcoopz3270]

Consistent and with high effort

[@DarthNoshitam]

And that advanced degrees are kind of meaningless...

[@NboOfficialAus]

No because that's not actually how he trains

[@robprime5855]

Depends on the view doesn't it. He does train regularly But not doing what he is selling

[@melancholymartialarts7095]

​@DarthNoshitam that is not at all what that means. Doing random things, without a clue, leads to gains but zero understanding why. The degree and knowledge rules out the b.s over time.

[@greghill158]

I'm shocked you aren't also calling him out on not even doing 90 degrees on any of his squats. He's doing like 45 degrees because he's not strong enough to do those weights at all.

[@misterQQQQ]

I'm about halfway through the video, and I had to come searching for someone else who noticed this! Absolutely maddening!

[@figliodihades]

I left a comment saying this exactly to Joel and he responded by saying that his knees did in fact hit 90° because he was leaning more forward at the ankles... I was shooketh 🤣🤣

[@TheJimLahey]

Half squats and quarter squats are better for explosiveness when it comes to athletic population. There's a study on this by Rhea et. al. called 'Joint-Angle Specific Strength Adaptations Influence Improvements in Power in Highly Trained Athletes '. Pretty sure partial roms for squats also improve full squat max. Point is half and quarter squats simulate the starting position in sprinting and jumping. Tell me a sport where you develope power from full squat position.

[@valspals9188]

@TheJimLahey combat sports. Football. Basketball. Rugby. Soccer (goalies). Baseball (multiple positions). I could go on, but what sports have you engaged in?

[@TheJimLahey]

@@valspals9188 none of those go under 90 degrees except maybe combat sports. what are you talking about? Especially a goalie. Ever seen a goalia in full squat position? Rugby players sprint and their starting position is closer to half squat. I feel like you don't understand what a full squat position is if you think soccer goalies engage in it.

[@alexpivniouk8421]

"eccentric isometrics" had me rolling because I literally looked up a chart of these terms when I started to take lifting seriously and EVEN I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

[@jonnenne]

Ecentric. Eccentric also fits but it's not the term you were going for.

[@alexpivniouk8421]

@@jonnenne bruh check your own facts the word is eccentric

[@Jamesfrancosdog]

I love seeing these snake oil salesmen called out and get their balls busted. You’re a saint Dr. Mike!

[@ChristofferLund]

I've seen a few clips of his and I legitimately thought it was just trolling. I never in my life thought it was something he portrayed as genuine advice. I'm shocked it is, and glad Dr. Mike is tearing him apart 😂

[@Matthew_Klepadlo]

Nah, he’s too lustful. We can pray, though-

[@thomasmurrell6933]

In my personal opinion, this is the funniest video you have done that I have seen. I also love the full transparency, too many fitness professionals acting like they never make mistakes. Good Stuff as per usual

[@Dr.MikeGranato]

Remember that time Joel openly admitted to Dr Mike that his nonsense is literally just to sell his material when 90+% of what he does and does with athletes are the basics? I do

[@AYVYN]

Some of the stuff he’s doing making no sense so I assumed

[@yurmumsgjey]

link?

[@mikeabel7577]

​@@yurmumsgjeyIt was said on a video that was posted on Mike's KZbin channel when Seidman debated Israetel.

[@swfldgfan]

Pepperidge Farms remembers

[@MP-mz7un]

@@yurmumsgjey just search for a podcast with their names included. mike was a surprise guest. Seedman did not know beforehand

[@gnoomlord]

mike clearly just doesn't understand badminton as a sport.

[@WafflesNPotholes]

Out here thinking this is goodminton

[@AadidevSooknananNXS]

Dr Mike's amazing explanations is why I discovered this channel, moments like 8:51 is why I'm still here

[@mastaw]

That line killed me x.x

[@aceofspades2808]

BOI GET ANGY

[@celestinefc]

Thanks, Dr. Mike for keeping it real!... I've been lifting for 30+ years and I'm disabled with a TBI and I'm partially paralyzed, but I keep lifting b/c I feel joy in doing such - and I fully agree with how you structure your form on any said workouts.

[@Hannibal-Rx]

Damn my friend you are goals! Respect 💪🏻

[@_anthonypierre_]

I have never felt a video more in my soul then 13 minutes in. The frustration of that moment is 100% felt

[@JoeMazzolaTheFirstPersonCook]

I've been a trainer for a decade and I jad to pause the video and laugh

[@HydraulicPressChannel]

I though (and hoped) that this about the guy on Tiktok that is training for badminton tournament :D You should critique him also, it's quite similar to this :D

[@miguelsorto280]

Thats what I was hoping for! The badminton training guy probably ain’t training hard enough to dictate a vid tbh .. lol

[@jackeoinruaoneill6212]

Greatest meme lifter on the internet🦍 mikeymaybeme

[@vlozoya726]

He trains that way because of the badminton meme. Tik tok dude is just joking

[@JoeMazzolaTheFirstPersonCook]

My first intro to Joel Seedman was a guy I worked with who claimed Joel was his personal traimer, but he also claimed he picked up four girls in one weekend by playing guitar on his porch and was best friends with Morgan Freeman AND was an executive chef at three restaurants while also being a full time student and gym weekday opener so... honesty never had a super close link in my brain.

[@HkFinn83]

What song was he playing on guitar?

[@ColinKing]

@@HkFinn83 Darude - Sandstorm

[@DeRockMedia]

Had a coworker who claimed Charlize Theron followed him on Tik Tok and slept with over 3 thousand girls in his life... he also said his special cologne makes girls literally wet around him (funny part is I saw him get shot down twice in a day when he tried asking out girls walking by). He also claimed certain supplements he takes melts away body fat and that's how he lost 30 pounds and didn't work out... oh ya, he's also a notorious liar that nearly everyone disliked and got himself fired....I found his lies entertaining cuz he was delusional af

[@camilogiraldo4533]

Yeah I now the guys his dad was the navy seal that killed hitler

[@HkFinn83]

@@ColinKing probably what attracted the girls in threes and fours

[@emterroso]

At 7:41 you say he's lying but, technically, he isn't. Since an "eccentric isometric" is impossible, there's not a single person who tried it and doesn't swear by it.

[@shiroimekuooniwa5110]

Honestly having someone who’s instructed and has actual licenses that isn’t scared of being straight forward critiquing the bs around the gym industry is a blessing. When this series ends (hopefully in a long time) it will be missed. Thank you Dr Mike, and RP your contribution should be praised more

[@amafi_poe]

Nice to see someone give Dr Seedman all the respect he's due.

[@oquinnionated852]

"Alright what do we got? We got kettlebell... We got titties" An all time Dr. Mike quote

[@lorrinunderwood9453]

Still stays professional. He noticed the kettlebell first.

[@DasJoppe]

@@lorrinunderwood9453 I guarantee every man on earth noticed the huge tits before anything else in that video.

[@joshs2734]

Mike talking about how not everyone likes RP, and that some people have actually gotten negative results from the program speaks volume to his integrity to me. Yes, not everything works for everyone, that's the real world. For him to actually say that goes a long way to demonstrate honesty, transparency and integrity and I am here for it.

[@balladbargen]

These days it's very hard to find someone like Dr Mike that actually says what he really believes and doesn't do random shit that gets views. Thank you Dr Mike 🥰.

[@EddieLifts]

Thank God, you posted this video because I’ve been contemplating following this guy for a while, but found his workout so weird, I appreciate this video

[@pacmanfanable]

9:00 That was the first clip I saw or heard of Joel. During lockdowns he said this was what could help “maintain” muscle mass. I genuinely thought he was a social media comedian at first

[@venessastevens9382]

Why has it taken me this long to have discovered this channel?! Dr. Mike smart guy holds who holds no punches and the commentary is truthful and hilarious.

[@WtbgoldBlogspot]

I figured out his following, and it's something I haven't seen any seedman critiques mention. He's very openly Christian and a surprising amount of the followers that defend his content reply with "thoughts and prayers!" or "thanks doing the lord's work, Joel" in the comments. Rather than being a lifting coach, he has set himself up as a lifting preacher - a religious lifting authority that's not to be questioned. You don't have to understand, because his techniques work in mysterious ways. P.S. The guy that he was hitting with a medball broke his neck on the field one week after that reel.

[@empyrean1696]

doesn't he say "since post operation" meaning he broke his neck before that reel which makes this the "rehabilitation"

[@JackgarPrime]

That's an interesting observation. Perhaps there is some element of conspirscy mindedness that's giving the whole "conventional wisdom and knowledge is wrong, I'm the ine with the real secret answers" implications of his content?

[@EvaLasta]

Holy shit thats hilarious. Makes sense cause hes from Georgia lol. The guy breaking his neck better have chargebacked the personal training payments 😂 thats just too good to be true.

[@dannymeslier6658]

No, he' is in fact a member of the tribe as Mike alluded to

[@deansilva8401]

I just want to mention how I had a huge patellar tendonopathy injury in my left knee. And lifting using full knee flexion [heels to ass] on the pendulum squat has not only healed my knees but they are now stronger than they have ever been. Full rom works! F**** stopping at 90

[@EvenMoreDamage]

Reason why I know Dr Mike's channel is worth every minute I spent on his content? Beside vast knowledge and will to educate people, he is not afraid to say that no product yields 100% satisfaction or success rate even when talking about his own products.

[@BTwine]

These videos where Mike is actually critiquing and not making sex jokes for 75% of the video are so good

[@Mr_Fairdale]

Seedman is like a South Park character IRL

[@pietrosigismondodelvalenti6371]

6:32 Here's why I (former powerlifter) prefer Dr. Thumb-thumb's advice on fitness. Man gets reason for specific training.

[@Eli412496]

Being a 4 year trainer / 7+ lifter and just completed my degree in exercise science, I can not understand why people are doing all this flashly stuff. It's freaking wild

[@damiendelaforce-thompson1221]

congrats on 1 mil!! you guys have really helped me learn alot about the gym (started 5 months ago) keep it up

[@billytcat]

Finally, the video we've all been waiting for!

[@hurricanev6]

I love the clips of seedman doing what i like to call the high-intensity tantrum exercise. Just flailing around with no weight looking like he's trying to hold back the world's heaviest nut. Amazing stuff.

[@nicknderitu6013]

@2:30 that escalated quickly 😅

[@ceatea112]

Love, love, love Dr. Mike. He's so damn informative, funny, honest and refreshing.

[@radiantgriffin8799]

Love when a professional calls out BS with this level of anger. Soooooo good

[@lanceelizondo6018]

I love these videos because they’re funny, but then Dr. Mike slips in actual useful information too. I get to laugh and learn. I’d love to see Dr. Mike and Dr. Layne Norton calling out people together.

[@pierrea3094]

At 13:00 minutes honestly tops everything else it’s the pound for pound champ of clownery

[@MikeBarbarossa]

"Only 90 degrees , bruz" 12:08 except when I do it

[@JB-hq1ow]

Keep preaching science! Just found your channel and love it.

[@e_86]

9:56 that's not 90°

[@thegymtiger]

The commentary is always fun but it's really the editing that makes this series gold.

[@padraicsim6064]

Gosh I am so happy he did this video. Joel Seedman really needs to stop this fraudulent activity

[@ElevateYourselfOfficial]

Another hilarious commentary with truth behind the jokes!! I would love to talk shop with you sometime about your opinion on optimal exercises for Volleyball athletes specifically, with improving injury reduction, as well as force production in season.

[@bn9k693]

hi coach donny! :3

[@Rhop]

This would be a fantastic collab! Make it happen!

[@ElevateYourselfOfficial]

@@bn9k693hello!!

[@Jaszmind777]

As a PT I appreciate the roast. I had to take a break from IG because the feelings of inadequacy been feeling watching these fake ass bs fitfluencers, claiming they have the best and any therapist or training not doing their stuff sux. Anyways thanks for putting science behind their critiqued vids

[@DjDolHaus86]

You know what I love when under extremely heavy loads? Wobbling all over the place. I can't see how that could possibly go wrong but in fairness I did have my imagination surgically removed

[@richardommundsen2417]

Was it injured in an accident while wobbling all over the place while lifting heavy weight

[@DjDolHaus86]

@@richardommundsen2417 it was an elective surgery under the advice of Dr Manseed

[@matussatek6006]

Just once i lost focus on form during deadlift, thus making it a wobbly one, the next second i knew I F***D UP. Save my back or spare the floor? The game was on. TLDR: Back pain won

[@bulkshibronco]

Almost killed by a beverage bc of 7:08 🤣🤣

[@Shilgne1]

Same with me at 5:30

[@jacehirzel2820]

I find it interesting that Seedman had Chris Carson doing neck perturbations, but Carson retired early due to a neck injury.

[@kasperrieberg3495]

Yeah, ironic right 😂

[@alexlalov7152]

It makes me so happy Dr. Mike is one of the people that is bothered by people abusing the word 'literally'.

[@RonnieJamesOsbourne]

Joel does a good job of spreading his *Seed* all over the fitness industry 💦

[@Michaah]

he really is the man

[@Tara_Masika]

It was an obvious pun. But a good one nonetheless 🤣❤

[@Voidrunner01]

Joel "Bukkake" Seedman

[@emmang2010]

Is it just me or does Joel looks like Eric Helms.

[@caesarsalad1170]

What an unfortunate last name he has 😂🤣

[@matthewa.8546]

Dr. Mike critique videos are the best thing on KZbin! Respect. Dope. Right on.

[@Marc-ip4ii]

Love the information you provided

[@Night_Terror_]

5:29 I am a black man and i firmly agree with mike 😂😂😂

[@solitarymaninblack]

Dr Joel Seedman is the Neil Breen of the fitness industry.

[@trishac.199]

Underrated comment

[@Touya147]

The bosu ball had me choking on my water 🤣🤣🤣 was not prepared for THAT level of hilarity

[@AlexanderSmith628]

Chris Carson was literally perpetually hurt and retired from a neck injury. Great job Seedman!

[@j3rs3yjak3FIU]

Scott's giggles in the back are low key the best parts of these 😂

[@creepintrex]

The “As God Intended” list is now how I’m going to shape my entire life. Thank you Dr.Mike.

[@robinehlers1776]

Just saw that you got the 1 Million. Congratz, it's absolutely deserved. Love the content and humor. Keep up the great work!💪

[@SonaChainsaw]

6:20 I wrestle it is a fair bit higher the crunching and folding of the neck is significantly worse than what I am seeing here

[@chrismanich3063]

Also fun to know, his plates are not "correctly colorcoded" His greens are 10lbs, yellow 25lbs, blue 35lbs, red 45lbs So every lift seems more than it actually is (You can see the numbers on the plates in his videos)

[@Hellion6325]

That's the same as my gym lol

[@chrismanich3063]

@@Hellion6325 yeah i have seen them in some videos in other gyms too and i hate them, i dont know whose idea that was lol

[@venkinta3343]

"Move like I intended or whatever" - "And then Moses just wrote it down like '90 degree, eccentric, isometric' - got it!" This shit had me rolling

[@thisisnotmyrealname5658]

Love how real Mike is. Totally no BS he is realistic about his own products in that they might not be for everyone. A great fitness role model and general role model too

[@tsotate]

Instability isn't _completely_ valueless for core stability, but his clients would be much better served by just adding some farmer's carries to their program of basic lifts.

[@fatcat22able]

13:22 This exercise is perfect if you want to yeet your ACL into the stratosphere

[@tonyg3091]

Lol man, those squats at 3:12 are among the dumbest things I have seen in my life.

[@TSfish94]

12:58 left me deceased 💀 your editor deserves a raise for this one

[@wotwithbert7591]

Joel be tapping into that "any form of exposure is good exposure" type of mindset fr

[@christopheryi3172]

this is why I respect this dude: 7:32 and onward is just *chefs kiss*

[@-Jesse.C]

Saying your own product isnt magic or for everyone because its the real world is g shit. that is the genuine attitude you love to see. Mike has definitely earned the respect he has.

[@scrappylifter8318]

I lost it at 12:01 🤣Classic Dr. Mike!

[@Skinnamarink.]

Give your editor a hug. he deserves it!

[@joelthomas79]

I’ve been a personal trainer for 25 years now. I was blessed early on to learn and train with a trainer who had been training about 30 years at that time. One of the core beliefs I learned was to keep it simple. Every time I had ideas and practiced away from this system I actually saw less results. There are 6 basic movements the human body makes, just load those and make them stronger and move through a long range of motion. Simple= better I trained a hockey player who came to me and showed me all these balance/complicated exercises he was doing. I got him to stop and do the above. Not only did he look and feel better, but played and skated better too.

[@catherineodonnie]

While this video is 10/10 entertaining, it's also helpful! There are so many trainers/influencers out there who are full of crap, and this helps teach you how to spot red flags 🚩🚩🚩

[@_zip_fly_]

Thank you for the content Dr. Mike. 🙏

[@DM-qm5sc]

@ 4:10 isnt he doing damage by slamming his knees like that?

[@ThePMantis]

I give Dr Mike an A+ for callin' out the BS.....excellent video!!!!

[@zezeti2246]

He looks like the Dr.Oz of exercise science😂

[@Der_Richiee]

He's

[@Whataworld1104]

Love your vids an jokes man keep up the good content and info 😂!!!! Good stuff this is all golden.

[@Rockardo_]

Lmfao I just got a vshred ad before this video

[@pandajohn5911]

Lucky! Then you can report it for misinformation! Wish I still got them so I could keep reporting..😔✊🏼

[@Sa3vis]

It's so interesting to see the difference in style between their first debate review and this video.

[@moitheman]

8:24 thought mike was calling me

[@lgbtqisthatasandwich4154]

Not sure how no one knows this but Joel is the contracted Wipeout TV show trainer to prepare contestants before the course

[@srleplay]

His "special" approaches, "special" as in special school not as in special forces

[@Eudaimonia88]

"Folks, how can I put this in a nice way ... Tudor Bompa, read that!" 😂

[@_MrTV]

5:17 🤣😂🤣😂 Bro WTF!!!!

[@datwaypow]

I would love to join your membership but I’m going through a hard time right now, so I’m just gonna watch you on KZbin but your content is awesome

[@Corklops]

I haven't laughed as hard as I did at 5:20 in years. I inhaled my coffee and I've been choking on it for a solid few minutes. I don't even have words for how hilariously dumb that "exercise" was hahaha

[@MegaRagingBunny]

There was a question at 14:45 - "why are you training instability", I could try to answer that, there are many throws in Judo that could require some strength while balancing on one leg, Dr.Mike should know that. No idea why is the dude training for it, but the exercise itself might have some use.. maybe.

[@alexvisan7622]

Then just practice the throw. You lift weights to get stronger, not practice balance.

[@sidefluff6626]

I love the V Shred ads before these vids lmfao love the content Dr. Mike keep it up

[@holdinmcgroin8639]

1:45 uhm akshually, 🤓 the stealth abilities of stealth fighters depends entirely on the outside of the frame, not its circuitry 🤓

[@RG001100]

:P Yeah, but if Skunkworks told us "it's just black paint; any black paint will do the trick", I'd be *very* surprised.

[@Awlips]

LMFAO when Mike hits play and he see the Bosu Squat, INSTANTLY.

[@mrhyde2250]

Seedman is ridiculous, no question. However, the hex bar saved my back. I use as close to regular DL form as possible though. U also use it for deficit squats.

[@moa3821]

trap bar definitely has applications especially for those how want better angles for their back

[@julioandresarriagarangel7183]

Man, you took off the gloves on this one. And I am all for it :)

[@Steve_Schiffenhaus]

Dude - 5:40 💀 I fucking died 🤣🤣🤣