Existential threat: U.S. allies in Europe prepare for possible catastrophe of Trump return

McKay Coppins, staff writer for the Atlantic, talks with Alex Wagner about his reporting from speaking to leaders across Europe about their "existential" fears that Donald Trump could regain the U.S. presidency, which they expect would have catastrophic consequences for America's European allies.
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#Trump #Biden #Europe

[@brianturner5995]

It's not just Europe...as an Australian I have been watching the US descent towards fascism since 2016 with horror...

[@NoOligarchs]

I’m very curious … do you feel Australia is doing well against far right-wing influence? It seems to be a country that is standing strong against fascistic tendencies.

[@ozomahtlikey9190]

Study huey Malcom Garvey ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽

[@edwin5419]

@@NoOligarchswhat we in Australia would call far-right, America would call moderate Republican. Far left and far right doesn't do well in a country with compulsory voting.

[@JoniusGnome]

Ditto

[@rebeccamd7903]

It’s not just Europe and Australia…A huge portion of America is afraid and watching as well.

[@Dutch1961]

The USA isn't the city on the hill for Europeans. Too much poverty and inequality. It's ridiculous that you depend on your employer for health insurance if he can fire you the moment you get sick. It's ridiculous that when you get sick and don't get fired, your sick leave has to come out of your pto hours. It's ridiculous that employees are regarded as 'assets' that don't need a good work-life balance so you make them work 50 to 60 hours a week and they only get 10 days vacation (if they are so lucky). It's ridiculous that the minimum wage is so low that you need more than one job to survive if you are a low paid worker. I'm a 63 year old European. I make over 80K Euros a year working only 32 hours (4 days) a week. This year I already went on two short vacations and I have another two short vacations AND two longer vacations coming. I go to the gym two times a week after work, just because I have the time to do so. This keeps me fit and healthy. In my 43 year working career I've been unemployed for three months after leaving military service. In these 43 years I've worked for three (!) employers. If I become disabled or unemployed I know I won't end up in the street. If I become seriously ill and need extensive medical treatment I know I wont go bankrupt. I'm in the 48 percent tax bracket but I don't mind paying taxes because I know that if anything happens to me the social security system will take care of me. That's freedom!

[@billderinbaja3883]

Trump loyalists would say that is not freedom, it is socialism. Most Americans, the progressive majority, would see that your's is a better way to run a country. Now if we could just get them all to vote??

[@Contessa6363]

Excellent sir/madame! I agree with you 100% percent. I am a disabled 61 yo progressive. I am now living that nightmare. Although I am in subsidized housing you can only make $1184 dollars a month from Social Security stretch so far!! When I was 41 I lost my health insurance from 41 to 51 I went uncovered for 10 years! This loss was due to affordability in a for profit system!! I could go on here but I think I you see my point!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@Slingbld]

Who describes themselves as European? Only someone that's not. Europe is 42 countries. Are you Ukrainian? Icelandic? French? German? Romanian?

[@omelborpon3159]

Your points are practical and logical, but facts and logic mean nothing to Republicans. These people vote based on cultural issues and religious faith. Very often vote against their own best interests. America's only hope this election is that there are enough informed voters to offset those who have no clue as to who what they are voting for.

[@user-rs8ef3gn3i]

It's ridiculous that you think your opinion matters to us...

[@peterjeffery8495]

The 4 Horsemen of the American Apocolypse: Intolerance-Greed-Ignorance-Stupidity.

[@milehighgimpster]

Is that why Biden is a millionaire and has 3 houses on his salary?

[@ragingmonk6080]

"The 4 Horsemen of" of low IQ mythology written by John of Patmos. A mad man that was exiled to an island. Yet you reference it. 🤣😂

[@RakeshMalikWhiteCrane]

In the US, it's the 2 morons of the apocalypse, because 4 is too high for them to count. (Only two hands, remember?)

[@ragingmonk6080]

@@RakeshMalikWhiteCrane Someone from a third world dirt hole talking smack. LOL

[@elizabethhoward5969]

Well said.

[@meangene98]

When it comes to trump getting back in the WH, our allies are crapping themselves, and our enemies are actually supporting him. Think about that.

[@mitchhills4747]

I doubt he will get back in.

[@winstonsmith8565]

Biden doesn't even remember who his enemies and allies are anymore. All he knows is what is on his teleprompter. Think about that

[@barbarafuller5098]

Exactly what should that tell us?

[@meangene98]

@@barbarafuller5098 Are you serious?

[@ronaldlindeman6136]

There are people who worked in the highest parts of trumps administration, that say that trump should not get elected President. trump is stupid and to many of the people of the United States are stupid.

[@earthknight60]

As an American I'll be absolutely livid if Trump is reelected. He should have been jailed a long time ago, and never should have been allowed within shouting distance of any US political office.

[@marklasky3555]

For what exactly ..biden clown?

[@websitemartian]

likewise with briben...

[@GRIZZ-sb1zt]

@@websitemartian WHERE IS BIDEN NOT WELCOME? BESIDES, RUSSIA AND SAUDI ARABIA, TRUMP'S DICTATOR ALLIES

[@bchristian85]

Half the country thinks he's Jesus, and is chosen by God to restore righteousness to America. It's hard to defeat a cult like that. This is new for American history, but it isn't for global history.

[@WhiteBraveheart1]

Then leave our country. If you don't like it, there's the door.

[@spinthis56]

"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!" ~ *EVERYONE* VOTE!! *but VOTE BLUE!!!* 💙💙💙

[@winstonsmith8565]

Vote for a corruptWarmonger withDementia? Are you nutz?!

[@TjC_3124]

​@@user-jr5mg4tf3lthat shouldn't be an issue with all the deportation camps Trump plans on building along with using the US military to round up all the immigrants right?

[@rickr.mortis4821]

@@user-jr5mg4tf3l No dummy. Investigate!!

[@websitemartian]

trump said he would end both wars

[@onuohaedwin3647]

Don't prepare for the worst rather, prepare to return Trump back to the White House. The world has peace when he was there.

[@kenhoward3512]

Especially after surviving one term of Trump, Europeans must now be seriously wondering about the sanity of the American populace for Trump to have the polling numbers he currently has. It should be unthinkable. And for him - an obviously, mentally-sick man - to have the total backing of one of our only-two major political parties is absolutely crazy.

[@BetjeWolff-v2s]

Europeans are not wondering about the polling numbers. Europeans are alarmed by MTG's fascists attack on Dr. Fauchi in congress. Americans are ill informed. When you do not even recognise the moment fascists take over congress, hope is gone.

[@MyHalcyonDaysAreHere]

Just like a household, the master of the house will always reflect on what kind of people are in there, and vice versa. I just can't imagine having a rude behaving leader being reflected back on us, the people, we won't let that happen. To think that's only one aspect of T****, as leader in case.

[@pisceananarchyvortex7223]

​@@MyHalcyonDaysAreHereeveryone hates people who tell the truth instead of sugar coated lies. Don't ever watch clips of him. Go to full speeches and you'll find out why people support him. It takes a while for the slow dawning.

[@emsleywyatt3400]

@@pisceananarchyvortex7223 I don't have to eat the whole omelet to know it was made with rotten eggs.

[@wyskass861]

Not like the Germans could possibly know how a population can come to support a fascist sociopathic maniac and self destruct behind him.

[@Babyluthi]

It's not just Europeans....

[@fionaanderson5796]

Us Aussies are just as concerned, and I know our neighbours over the ditch in New Zealand are too.

[@marcopassardi255]

I'm from Switzerland and terrified, too. I don't understand that there are not massive protests against Trump daily. This guy would end democracy! Are you not terrified?

[@razorburn7745]

You don’t understand because you have critical thinking skills. That’s the problem, trump supporters don’t have any. Their man is an obvious fraud and they either can’t or won’t accept it.

[@reneelibby4885]

yes. but there so many stupid people here

[@Contessa6363]

I have visited your country a couple of times. Just beautiful! ❤️ Anyway I am extremely scared! I am a Progressive Democrat and I actually do participate in the process. Too many Americans are under educated and do not participate in the process. If one is complacent and turns a blind eye the rot of Fascism will come in!!

[@Bcmdev]

I am American, but would rather live in Switzerland

[@IMortalNemesisI]

Your entire country is 1/3 the size of Virginia, you should more afraid of small flash floods, buddy.

[@Darkenfair]

I'm an Australian. At least 90% of people I talk to over here are absolutely shocked that so many Americans support Trump. He just doesn't seem to have any redeeming features what-so-ever. Please, please, please don't re-elect him, and get him in jail where he belongs as quickly as you can. The rest of the world is watching and begging you to do the right thing.

[@Jc-sd5xt]

We are we're voting to save democracy trump 2024🎉

[@jonok42]

You know that all the people in the US who don't support trump feel the same way. We will all do what we can do, and that is vote.

[@Darkenfair]

@@jonok42 Yes, I do know that. It's pretty obviously a very divided nation at the moment. Fingers crossed that your rational side of the debate will win out in November.

[@gridlock82]

Unfortunately, trump is most likely to win and believe me I don’t want him to , but Biden is visibly not able to be president physically , he could pass away literally at any moment but the democrats want him to run for democrat? It’s pretty much a done deal that trump is most likely to win

[@Aussie-kim1631]

Aussie here as well. It beggars belief that an indicted person can even be in the running for president! I don't want to be an ally to America if Trump wins. He would sell secrets of allies I believe, and cause wars. A global catastrophe. Vote blue America for sanity......

[@sba5415]

I am anxiously glued to the news of the US presidential race. I am scared and confused how many Americans idolize DT. I am an European citizen.

[@Omni0404]

We're going to be Germany 2.0.

[@UncomfortableConversations7]

​@Omni0404 no this country will world will be ashes bc if they try project 2025 frfr ,our country will sadly end in a blood bath. Other countrieswill attack and we will lose our global seat at the round table bc we will be obsolete. Ppl fail to realize,all that travelingto other countries will be over.They will ban American citizens to keep the chaos out of their countries!smh its sad, when the majority of Americans don't want none of this but a few greedy racist are willing to destroy everything for nothing

[@websitemartian]

do you want endless war?

[@betha8761]

No worries. We women will take care of all of this in November. Biden will win. 💙💙💙💙 Take care!

[@Omni0404]

@@websitemartian Is the US starting wars?

[@valentinursu1747]

It's different when it happens to America because we thought you... and you always acted like... you have a mature democracy. I remember 10 years ago when 7% of our country's population went to the streets to protest against the corruption of the government, the US ambassador had a statement about the issues of our democracy. Electing Trump a second time proves you are not an example, your electorate is just as uneducated, your laws are just as weak and your institutions are just as corrupt if not more...that supreme court of yours man...wow.

[@mikeincalifornia]

As an American I'm sorry you don't share our enthusiasm for our leader. Like most Americans, I am very very proud of him, and very very proud that he represents and leads our country. I'm certain that if you lived in the US and saw what was happening here you also would be an enthusiastic supporter. Don't believe what the media is telling you about him. Just trust that Americans will do the right thing.

[@lexschinkel]

I am one of those Europeans. I follow all the political US news, which I find a crossover between a soap serie and a horror show.

[@mattkovary8956]

That is well put. And I am American.

[@royroy3]

Trump is done

[@Contessa6363]

I had my European History Professor way back in 1982 define American History as a series of Current Events!! He has never been more right!! The average American has a very brief memory. Those that do understand what is at stake here in this election are far and few between!!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@Jmjdit]

@@Contessa6363 Vast numbers of Americans have no sense of their own history, let alone anyone else's, yet believe they are superior in their outlook. Their hope is delusional. Refer the work of Chris Hedges.

[@MissRed92837]

I’m Swiss, currently living in the US. I’m trying to get out of this country by the end of this year. I’m so done with the cults and the uneducated people here! I’m just wondering where in Europe it will be the safest to live at. I’m wondering about a European island in the Mediterranean Sea.

[@bethdumont9020]

Not just Europeans are concerned with your next election. I'm Australian. I'm super concerned. Please come out on the side of freedom and democracy, not dictatorship.

[@taitraining3055]

Anyone in his right mind should be scared

[@fionaanderson5796]

From another Aussie, yes, trump was a disaster for us the first time, and we know he'll be worse the second. And it's not just trump. He is in such decline that he won't live four more years, but the regime he would install will, and those people follow the same ideology and are capable of actually implementing it. If they control the elections and the courts (and they already do in many parts of America), the regime will overturn the constitution and democracy.

[@PhillipLWilcher]

Fellow Australian here. I share in your concerns; this is not just about America! I feared for the safety of the world as early as Trump's second presidential debate against Hillary Clinton. It was evident then, that any degree of power given over to him would be at the world's peril. It's terrifying, it really is!

[@petepierre6458]

Trump said nothing about China's expansion in both SE Asia & the Pacific. He never said anything about China trying to set up naval bases on the Solomons Islands, right on Australia's & NZ's doorstep and a whole lot closer to the US coast line!

[@Bevrinton]

@@PhillipLWilcherlol stop that crying cupcake dry your eyes

[@Ikukundu]

Trump must never be allowed anywhere near the White House.

[@Jc-sd5xt]

He'll be back January 20th 2025😂

[@mitchhills4747]

@@Jc-sd5xt No, he won't. WOMEN will keep him out lol! Roe v Wade.....

[@russwhite8872]

@@Jc-sd5xt Not if we have an election.

[@winstonsmith8565]

@@russwhite8872 Cry harder

[@Hidinginthetreeline]

@@Jc-sd5xtno he won’t. And no amount of you crying about it will change that fact.

[@betha8761]

Women will take care of this in November. No worries. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@BetjeWolff-v2s]

No worries ? From Europe: Europe expects there will be no election. The scene between MTG and dr Faucchi is very familiar for Europeans. American ignorance is staggering.

[@jonok42]

​​@@BetjeWolff-v2sfrom our point of view it seems European neediness and ignorance is even more staggering. Did you stop to think that your comment, and so many others like it, are part of the reason that this is happening? Constant criticism with hands held out looking for more and more makes people less likely to want to work together. I despise trump and would never vote for him, but I'm beginning to wonder why we are allies with Europe in the first place. So many of our ancestors left there for a reason, maybe we should be rethinking those reasons.

[@russwhite8872]

@@jonok42 I suspect you’re not who you claim to be,

[@LyndaOblinger]

Pls don’t jinx it!🤫🙏🏻

[@timotheusvanesch3959]

@@jonok42 Sorry? The USA has positioned itself as being the police guard of peace and prosperity all over the world since the end of WWII. And did not allow rebutance there. They áre the hegemony, dominating world politics. And now that the heat is on, you're complaining about us, wanting you to show your might? In Europe we had to demobilize, demilitarize after 1991. There was a reason to it; de-escalation to allow the eastern European countries to join in the prosperity-project we call the EU, while staying in decent relations with ruZZia. There even was a time, before 2007, that ruZZia was seen as a potential EU-partner, or something like that; a peaceful neighbour-nation. Eastern Europe didn't buy it, but western Europe certainly did. You can look at it cynically from a merely economic perspective, but there was certainly an ideology of peaceful equality behind it. The fact it failed, means we are re-arming at a rapid pace. Within 2 years Europe should be able to defend itself. Up to that time, we WILL need your arms-support. Meanwhile: Europe's support for Ukraine is double that of the USA, while our combined GDP is only something like 70% of yours.

[@Dfl87165]

“European hyperfixation with US elections” is like saying “patient’s hyperfixation on the possible outcome of his cancer screening”. It is 100% understandable.

[@irenafarm]

Same to all the MAGA who say, “TDS! All the news talks about is Trump!” Well, yeah. He’s promising to be an existential threat to democracy.

[@user-vz5cq7ey2c]

It isn't just Europe on edge, it's Taiwan, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands and most of the world. The United States needs to wake up and understand how important they are for world peace.

[@jonok42]

Wake up, and understand? We get that drilled into us constantly! Did you think that might be part of the issue for some people, and why they support trump? The rest of the world yells at us, and blames us for everything, we are constantly being told how awful we are, and now you people are yelling at us to keep world peace! Which is it? Make up your minds! I don't support trump or maga, but jeez! I'm relating to their anger.

[@susannehartl3067]

@@jonok42 I suggest you take a brief look in US recent history.

[@taitraining3055]

The average John Doe doesn't even know were his borders are

[@NoOligarchs]

To be fair to the Europeans, I also thought America was more averse to dictatorial/fascist tendencies than we have proven ourselves. I’m still dealing with deep dismay.

[@rolandjeronimus1440]

Republicans can only lie because the truth is too bad. In Europe old statements are shown by Repblikeinen with what they say now is completely the opposite of what they said then. Were they lying now or then? Most of Trump's election staff are convicted criminals. We in Europe know more than most of the Trump supporters. Major international banks will not lend Trump a cent because he is a conman and his supporters think Trump is an honest businessman. Are Trump's supporters crazy or is the rest of the world crazy?

[@eorabbit1]

Please vote and get as many to the polls.

[@angelisa368]

I hope Europe will accept American refugees if djt is in the WH again.

[@SilkeRosenbusch]

😅

[@vercoda9997]

​@@SilkeRosenbuschIt's not a joke. There would be legitimate political refugees from America under a Trump return.

[@margin606]

It's an extraordinary thought but likely true.

[@hazelflatts7403]

Maybe we will take the same view that Americans have on immigration.?

[@taitraining3055]

that reminds of the last season of the handmaid's tale

[@jean-louismaissen7546]

Voting for DiaperDon is an enormous existential threat for the whole world!!! 💙💙💙

[@taylort8674]

Yeah. The world has been on a great trajectory since Biden took over.

[@oldworldpatriot8920]

If Trump is reelected NATO and EU states on the frontlines should NOT share a single piece of intel with us,as sad as it is to say they’re going to need to treat the US as a non aligned or hostile state. I don’t like that and would hate to see it but it would be necessary

[@ladydustin7811]

He will switch his allegiance to Russia and as such the US will become the enemy of us Europeans. He will help Putin to reach his goal : the destruction of the European Union.

[@kadyrov3218]

uSA needs to forget about nATO and fix up her own nation.

[@EllenKlever-c7k]

Europe does not accept trump. No way

[@MyHalcyonDaysAreHere]

Don't

[@eerikkantokoski432]

Yeah we don’t.

[@TB-fw3xb]

I sure understand why the Europeans are scared, if the long term ally turns on them it's frightening

[@b.t.2795]

The allies aren't going to trust Trump with any national security information nor pretend to take him seriously on any level.

[@fierybutmostlypeaceful1708]

Maybe they should stop taking advantage of the USA 🇺🇸.

[@tjhill4044]

Yes.... and cuddle of with someone like Putin the massmurderer. This is what Trump and his minions do. They hate democracy and rise authoritans. Same as Hitler does.

[@websitemartian]

turns on them ? rofl

[@russwhite8872]

@@websitemartian Yes. Trump told them he’d turn his back if his handler Putin decided to take them over. Trump’s the Quisling of our time.

[@pete846]

Australia needs to distance itself from the US

[@BettyBoop111]

Trump already sides with Putin. What will happen to all the American bases here? Will Australia side with Putin too?

[@margin606]

But how can it? What other ally is available?

[@reneelibby4885]

can't blame any ally doing that if he gets in. we'll be on our own. and deserve it. all these MAGA fools thinking Orange Jesus will bring peace are so deluded. He would bring world instability.

[@Jmjdit]

There is nothing wrong with the USA except the leadership, which can be swapped out.

[@jonasp6043]

@@margin606 Why? There is a closeness in most of our values & free thinking & a sense of close friendship that is shared with very few other countries to this extent.

[@sg0771]

Europe and the US should do everything they can to "Trump proof" our alliance in case he gets back in. Trump's a liability for our national security and it's crazy how many people don't think that about him.

[@sg0771]

​@@fierybutmostlypeaceful1708sure, go ahead and diminish an opposing opinion. It's what you people are good at.

[@Detroit_Vs._Everybody]

@@fierybutmostlypeaceful1708 Democrats aren't very bright. They consider the past 4 years a utopia... 😂

[@websitemartian]

you idiots are so dramatic.... grow up

[@russwhite8872]

@@sg0771 The opposing opinion is treasonous.

[@sg0771]

​@@russwhite8872okay troll you don't even know what treason means lol

[@timotheusvanesch3959]

The problem with a trump-victory, compared to rising authoritarianism in Europe, is that the USA is 1 nation. The EU is 27 countries, some of which have the same problems. We are still able to counter it, since most of the countries are still decent democracies. But if the USA turns fascist, it is a sudden all-in: The largest economy on the planet suddenly being fascist, instead of something like Hungary with a GDP of less than $200bln.

[@adrienbancroft7895]

Increase obesity rates coupled with internet zombie addiction the agenda

[@Jmjdit]

Not able to counter it? You're doing it with your actions online.

[@richyp64]

Hey Joy, I've actually experienced the threat these red hats pose first hand. They drive around the community with those big American flags waving off the back of their cars while shouting USA and it's absolutely terrifying to experience.

[@newman4664]

Absolutely, being American isn’t a crime, yet.

[@websitemartian]

biden has wrecked the country tho...

[@AndyM_323YYY]

@@newman4664 Being an American means you have to behave like Hitler's brown shirts now? When did that happen?

[@newman4664]

@@AndyM_323YYY You tell me! I’m particularly referring to the blatant lies, corruption and misinformation that we are exposed to everyday is ignored or lied about by politicians and media. Watch the hearings and tell me how and why the DOJ, FBI and other once trustworthy departments keep getting away with lies and malfeasance that we see in third world countries. When their best defence is deflection in the face of undeniable evidence we know they are rotten. Nevertheless, I’m proud of America!!!

[@BetjeWolff-v2s]

@@AndyM_323YYY It happened and still happens under your watch ! They are ready for the second coup. They beam confidence, prepared to take over. They know Donald is out with dementia. You could have known this, had you learned about WW2 in school.

[@DashRiprock513]

Fear not Europe... We don't do dictators monarchs or religious rulers.... They make an occasional run at us....but freedom, democracy and justice always prevail. We've been recently reminded that we can't be complacent. anymore.

[@margin606]

The polls seem to indicate otherwise.

[@russwhite8872]

@@margin606 The polls mean nothing. Politics runs on money, and Trump is draining the Republicans’ campaign funds to pay his legal bills.

[@Balletified]

Biden narrowly won last time…. Please do better and make Biden win in a landslide..

[@wtfisthishandIebuIlshit]

Trump can't travel to Europe, or Canada.

[@glenod]

hed probs get denied entry here aswell in australia, not that we want the pos here anyway.

[@robkafczyk2752]

​@JonnyGertmunger-yl7ks It's funny how conservatives used to make fun of a group of liberals who were anti-vaxxers, and now anti-vax is a core belief of MAGA. Funny how things change. It's almost like you're all a bunch of hypocrites.

[@Jc-sd5xt]

​@@robkafczyk2752seems to me the right become smart and the left dumb😂

[@robkafczyk2752]

@Jc-sd5xt Well it seems the exact opposite to me Mr. Party of Family Values whose leader cheats on his wife who just gave birth with a pornstar, commits fraud and has a long history of cheating people in business dealings.

[@BetjeWolff-v2s]

He suffers dementia. Why talk about travel ?

[@dannst77709]

I’m am very nervous 😰please America vote BLUE💙FromAustralia🦘

[@jonok42]

You folks are preaching to the choir. People watching this video are almost all voting blue. Except for the trolls.

[@margin606]

Unfortunately you will have increasing grounds for nervousness as the US disaster unfolds.

[@spinthis56]

*ALWAYS VOTE BLUE!!!* 💙💙💙 Eat that, trolls!!!

[@chrisf8855]

NEVER vote blue!....there, I fixed it for you🙂🥳

[@jnawk83]

What a bunch of sick burns you both got on each other

[@robzubrinich8124]

Who would ever have thought the western world would look at the United States with contempt and to Germany for moral leadership?

[@Contessa6363]

Oh the Irony!!

[@vivienclogger]

I'm from the UK. We watched as the US spent all their taxes on becoming the most powerful army in the world. We spent our taxes on Healthcare. We both gambled on the US remaining a democracy....

[@susannehartl3067]

The USA has 750 bases in at least 80 countries around the world (Source: Al Jazeera, Sept 2021) plus additional 800 bases in the country. Other sources estimate 900 facilities in approx. 100 overseas countries. This means at least half of US military installations are in the country. 2023 deployment data by Statista shows that 91% of US military and civil personnel are stationed in the country, whereas only 4% are stationed in Europe. Another 4% in East Asia and Pacific, and the rest in Middle East and Africa, though that might have shifted considering the current events in Ukraine, the Red See, and Middle East. You're welcome...

[@eds7343]

Its a constitutional republic not a democracy.

[@vivienclogger]

@@eds7343 this is the exact excuse the MAGA cult will use when they destroy the world's largest functional democracy. It was nice whilst it lasted.

[@irenafarm]

@@eds7343It’s a Liberal Democratic Constitutional Republic. Republic: The business of governance is carried out by representatives. Constitutional: Those who govern do so under the rule of law as outlined in the 1781 Constitution (and Amendments). Democratic: governing representatives are elected. Liberal: Governance ultimately emanates from the governed: Government “of the people, by the people, for the people.”

[@niclewis9610]

Trumps collapse of long standing alliances would see US unable to force project and turn America into a third rate power. No more US humiliation like in Helsinki.

[@fierybutmostlypeaceful1708]

Maybe we should stop projecting our power? Ever think about that?

[@winstonsmith8565]

So... you're voting for unending war?

[@niclewis9610]

​@@fierybutmostlypeaceful1708 It has kept us and the world from World War since the 40s 🙄 Ignoring Putin and Xi alliance is not in America's National Security interests and that includes their war on American disinformation.

[@niclewis9610]

​@@fierybutmostlypeaceful1708Have you 🙄

[@niclewis9610]

​@@fierybutmostlypeaceful1708Congratulations Trump finally won a popular vote 34 to 0 🎉

[@7Tigris]

God, are you guys really still spouting that BS? Europe does not look at the US as a beacon of civilisation and democracy. US politics have devolved into nothing but cynical powergames for quite a while now, while so many domestic issues remain unresolved. Rural America and a lot of old industrial towns are crumbling and it's become plain to see. Still, you're a powerful ally, and we do worry about the consequences of having more madmen with selfish and poor intentions lead your country. I don't particularly value Biden as a good continued option for president, but Trump is a genuine disaster. I sincerly hope you guys can somehow get out of this rediculous polemic gerontocracy. Sincerely, a European

[@rolandjeronimus1440]

Republicans can only lie because the truth is too bad. In Europe old statements are shown by Repblikeinen with what they say now is completely the opposite of what they said then. Were they lying now or then? Most of Trump's election staff are convicted criminals. We in Europe know more than most of the Trump supporters. Major international banks will not lend Trump a cent because he is a conman and his supporters think Trump is an honest businessman. Are Trump's supporters crazy or is the rest of the world crazy?

[@Contessa6363]

Then you need to read Biden's Record!! I am also guessing you may be younger and there could be a twinge of AGEISM here?? He has been the most progressive president we have had in over 40 years!! The beginning of this ROT began with the great Buffoon Reagan now it has devolved into this potential dystopian Trumpian dictatorship Nightmare!! VOTE BLUE 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@voodoohamster86]

Yeah, I can't look away. It's like watching what might be a tremendous car crash. US politics is insanely toxic compared to my country.

[@eorabbit1]

This is so alarming and when young people say,they won’t vote, I feel like crying. As a Black woman, I feel like people who won’t vote don’t care what happens to me. To us. The terror and stress (and death during covid) led to isolation for my family. We all just stayed home.

[@Contessa6363]

Yes so true! In order to protect a democracy one has to vote and participate!! We are in dangerous times!! VOTE BLUE 💙💙 💙💙💙

[@NGM.I.G.]

Who was it that historicaly stated That America would never be defeated from the outside, but from within. Anyone, Anyone? Bueller, Bueller....

[@taylort8674]

Lots of people have said something similar. Many attribute it to Lincoln, though I don't see where he said that. Yuri Besmenov seemed to have a pretty profetic take on how that would be the case.

[@SybilleGrob]

Hallo from Europe, yes I can confirm. We just had our own elections, here in the Netherlands. And yes. I am not interested, since the effect on my life will be negligible, something like whether or not it have to pay 0,5% more in taxes. But the US presidential elections and the Trump trial, I follow daily. I can indeed recite the names of all the judges, the DAs, the witnesses, the verdicts, the MAGA idiots in the house and so on. I am by now more knowledgeable than the average American, I am sure. Why? Because the outcome of YOUR presidential election will determine whether MY country will be able to go on to live in peace and prosperity, or whether we will all be betrayed and handed over to Putin in the midst of a brutal war. And yes, we have populist movements too, they got a big election-victory too in my country. The big difference though to the US is that we do not pretent to be a superpower, whatever happens in my country has negligible impact on the rest of the world and most importantly they will have to form a coalition government with 3 other parties which has already watered down their political program to a great extent. I am always flabbergasted by Americans who apparently believe they live on a island and non of what they do has any consequences. That might have seem that way for a long time, you were followed because you were worthy of being followed. When you elect Trump for a second term, everything is definitely in shambles and nobody will trust America ever again. America Great = America Alone.

[@Contessa6363]

Well said! I as an educated American that has traveled to 4 continents and 29 countries in my lifetime I am screaming inside!! I have always been involved in the process and have been a participant. I will be damned if I am going to live the last 30 years under a Fascist Dictatorship!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@fionaanderson5796]

An Australian perspective: the US has always been heavily predisposed to authoritarianism. You were late to WWII because you couldn't agree which side to join until Japan decided it for you. The Allies in Europe were fighting AGAINST US technology, intelligence, and supplies as many Americans were profiting from supplying Germany and Italy. There were many influential Americans who wanted the US to join the Germans. Politically engaged Aussies are also highly concerned by the idea of a second trump term. His influence was destabilising to our economy, and leaves us more vulnerable to attack (from China rather than Russia, which is even worse). And that was before his arrogant and deadly obstruction to dealing with covid plunged us into shutdowns and corporate extorsion.

[@Sherry-v2r]

Most Americans are sick of Donald Trump and his followers. America is great because the people are great, Trump will lose in November, America will remain great.

[@Yosemite_Sam]

If the Human Skidmark 😂 manages to win a 2nd term Europe will get dumped on. America will go to the dogs as well. Nightmare scenario.

[@michelegagne5169]

In other words, Britain and America, two world empires biting the dust within one century. World empires appear to become more and more short-lived.

[@Contessa6363]

Europe is being very pragmatic. If anyone would now recognize the incoming threat of Fascism it would be Germany.

[@take5th]

I wish Americans were as interested as the Estonian gardener. I was in Europe in 2018 and the cab drivers and common folk all seemed intrigued by trump, not in a bad way. Clearly, education is the difference. If you know anything about anything, you can see that trump knows nothing about everything except skullduggery for his own benefit. Forget what billionaires say, go to college, pay attention, learn something about the liberal arts, then go for your technical degree.

[@anthonygriffin1958]

I don't think the United States European allies have to worry about the possibility of a wannabe dictator or king being put back into political power in the United States. The American people know when enough is enough regarding the world of politics in the country.

[@sarah-janelambert8962]

50% of your population inexplicably support this megalomaniac with nuclear codes, and you tell us not to worry?

[@reneelibby4885]

I don't know read the morons in the comments who STILL don't get it. They never learn anything - only come to troll.

[@jacquelineraner14]

They are worried because they also have fascist movements and they know if America goes fascist then they will follow and or be isolated against Russian invasion which will advance to take strategic defensive positions as far west as Poland. In fact any military defense we provide for allies in the middle east and the pacific are also at risk. Fascism must not win in America because we won't have allies coming to rescue us like ww2. We can't be invaded like that so defeating Fascism would be from within only. Of course the fact that our enemies know that Trump is easily bought and manipulated and they ALL want Trump and are already preparing their trolls and propaganda to launch a full assult on our elections. Maybe we should turn off the access and all go fishing until November

[@andrewstone2806]

Convict Trump for prison 2024 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@ranaway9307]

@andrewstone2806 Excuse Me !!! Trumps got a 4 year gig coming up at the WHITE HOUSE Soon !!! You will have to be patient !!!!

[@andrewstone2806]

@@ranaway9307 Well I will excuse your vivid imagination. The only house tRump is headed for is the bighouse. But go ahead and by all means paint the bars white if makes you feel better 👍

[@shaunrayner]

@@ranaway9307lol

[@websitemartian]

END ALL WAR. TRUMP 2024

[@mitchhills4747]

@@websitemartian Don't be silly. No one has been able to stop war!

[@castlekingside76]

They are going to be fine without the US. America has gone insane.

[@buriedbits6027]

5:51 please don’t compare a trump dictatorship to these European tin pot dictators. It’s a totally different ballgame.

[@hgr4255]

You certainly are. We're talking baseball and you're talking tiddlywinks. Get with the program dude.

[@lindacandelaria3564]

💙💙💙💙👍👍💪💪🙏🙏💯💯

[@Lisa-pl6gv]

Sane Americans are afraid of this as well.

[@razzle1964]

Trump’s potential win in Nov isn’t necessarily the main thing we’re worried about … but, it helps to know there’ll be problems to look forward to in 2028.

[@bchristian85]

There probably won't be an election in 2028 or if there is, it will be a sham election and Trump will win all 50 states. And Los Angeles will probably lose the 2028 Olympics.

[@rolandjeronimus1440]

Republicans can only lie because the truth is too bad. In Europe old statements are shown by Repblikeinen with what they say now is completely the opposite of what they said then. Were they lying now or then? Most of Trump's election staff are convicted criminals. We in Europe know more than most of the Trump supporters. Major international banks will not lend Trump a cent because he is a conman and his supporters think Trump is an honest businessman. Are Trump's supporters crazy or is the rest of the world crazy

[@robertpryde6453]

Walking on Thin Ice.

[@altonlynch5464]

Trump said, that if other NATO counties don't pay their fair share then they should kicked out of NATO but technically there is no fee to be a part of NATO. They do request that each country put so much money into their military budget. With Trump you have to question everything he says, because he tells so many lies and half truths.

[@jfrancobelge]

Here in Europe many politicians are considering seriously loosening ties in our alliance with the U.S. if Trump goes back to the White House. We don't want to be associated to the consequences of his madness, nor do we want to flow down the drain when he finally sinks your country. As a friend of the U.S. I think this is very saddening, but I'd support that move if Trump is re-elected.

[@virginiamitchell9899]

What rubbish. Europeans are totally disinterested in the US.

[@krismctopher7]

Nobody has any reason to assume Trump will win. Therefore, why does the European community feel that way - or do they?

[@charlessmyth]

Thanks for the link to the article. Much appreciated :-)

[@KnightsAndDarths]

Europe should be building its own military forces, we have been too dependent on the US for safety.

[@krismctopher7]

Maybe operatives from a European nation will have the guts to do what no American seems capable of doing with regards to Mr. Trump. Just saying, they could save us a lot of trouble.

[@WednesdaysDragon]

The clock is running down for Trump. And not in a good way.

[@d.pharmbot2092]

I wonder what most Europeans think of the Electoral College? I'm an American living in a southern state. My vote will NOT count (mind you, I will cast it!)

[@markuseden2105]

Might be hard for Americans to understand but for Europeans the prospect of having a climate change denier who is getting ready to hand the keys of the biggest CO2 emitting country in the world to the fossil fuel industry (for one billon dollars) is terrifying. It will literally spell the slow motion end of the world for billions of people in the developing world.

[@adrienbancroft7895]

Canadians also stunned. America is eating itself to death while believing Trump cares for the common man

[@balajiraju4157]

Like you care about 3rd world country 😂

[@markuseden2105]

@@balajiraju4157 your mum dude... ur mum...

[@kevindelaney1951]

It is for Americans to decide if they want a President who is pro Putin or not.

[@susannehartl3067]

I think you've missed the point.

[@rolandjeronimus1440]

Republicans can only lie because the truth is too bad. In Europe old statements are shown by Repblikeinen with what they say now is completely the opposite of what they said then. Were they lying now or then? Most of Trump's election staff are convicted criminals. We in Europe know more than most of the Trump supporters. Major international banks will not lend Trump a cent because he is a conman and his supporters think Trump is an honest businessman. Are Trump's supporters crazy or is the rest of the world crazy

[@dsiepiela6449]

Oh, I am proud to live in America, Where criminal politicians run free….. (Actually, it’s humiliating.)

[@CheerfulArcade-rm3es]

Thank God do we have a competent wise president with more experience in his pinky, Than trump will ever have. Hopefully our country will be able to fix all the stuff that you know who,has torn apart.

[@baphomet8691]

we also prepare for helping to build this wall - around the whole country .. and then guard it from the outside to make sure no amercan can cross the border.

[@BetjeWolff-v2s]

We will not be able to cope with the flood of American fugitives to Europe. We are inundated allready with all the wars going on everywhere,

[@virginiachris80]

It's time European-Americans invest in American elections. EAPAC

[@TrumpTribune]

If you want peace vote Trump!!!🇺🇸🌎

[@pennygleeson5029]

Do all Europeans watch faux?!! I'm in Australia & I'm pretty sure biden will get up! Tho i understand prepping for a trumpty win 🤷‍♀️

[@frankstollar8492]

There is no faux news in Europe and Murdoch's media are only in English speaking countries.

[@user-ky8nb8fn6i]

Trump has to go to jail for what he’s done

[@dickiebealtraveled]

Europeans are realizing America may be overrated living off of 80 year old WW2 glory. Europeans are realizing Americans aren't built like that.

[@jamesgallegos6344]

I Understand Their Concerns. At the same Time I Believe The American People As A Whole Come Out To Save America. I believe they Will Once Again Vote For The American People As A Whole. Help someone Register To Vote And Vote Out As Many MAGA AKA Republicans As Possible Once Again !

[@rongarza9488]

Countries that deny entry to convicted felons include: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Cambodia, Canada, Chile, China, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Egypt, Ethiopia, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland, Israel, Japan, Kenya, Macau, Malaysia, Mexico, Morocco, Nepal, New Zealand, Peru, Philippines, Singapore, South Africa, South Korea, Taiwan, Tanzania, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States. (source) People Magazine, June 2, 2024

[@castlekingside76]

Why does everyone think Trump is going to win?!

[@RumpoleoftheBailey]

Trump would definitely take the US out of NATO. European countries would have to create a European army. I hope leaders are planning for the utter disaster of a Trump presidency. Shocking the American people could consider voting for nut job Trump.

[@michi9816]

I am an european and watching US news regulary. we are scared about the outcome of the 2024 election and to be honest I do not understand whats going on.

[@millabasset1710]

The United States was the best thing to come out of western Europe, literally. We're more militarily accomplished than the British, Dutch and French. We drove industrialization and modern technology from the past 80 years.

[@StacyInLove1]

🩵💙🩵

[@Ketowski]

No surprise. Only those who are fantasizing are complacent about it.

[@dutchcourage70]

The last bit, where Alex compares a second Trump presidency to Orban, Meloni, Le Pen is ridiculous. First, Le Pen has never been president of France. Second, Meloni has is not pro-Russian, anti-NATO, or anti-liberal democracy or anything of the sort. That leaves Orban, who is indeed most like Trump: autocratic, anti-freedom, pro-Russian, anti-NATO. The difference is that Hungary is a small, poor country that is highly dependent of EU funding, so Orban generally folds in exchange for a small bribe. The USA, on the other hand, is a massive, rich country that makes or breaks NATO. And that, rather than the mistaken belief that the USA is a aging city on a hill - most Europeans have long known it is not - is the reason why Europeans are worried. The upside of all of this, though, is that we will finally see European countries break free of their dependence on the USA, turning the EU into the shining city on a hill while the USA descends into anger and chaos.

[@mwjunk]

This is so true. Americans know this may have been inevitable, having been built up over the past decades. For Europeans and other democracies around the world, it's like Captain America suddenly is susceptible to Hitler's ideology. The betrayal is jarring and deep.

[@davidgoff357]

If you dont vote to keep him.out ,you will have to fight to get him out.

[@melissal4363]

He cant even get security clearance.

[@alanng4436]

Common ground between Europe and China

[@BetjeWolff-v2s]

Partly true ! The Netherlands has long standing trade relations with China that go back hundreds of years. We have the nickname Chinese of the West. Chinese capital has bought a lot of utilities in our country, like in all countries in the word. They now own housing cooperations and town incinerators and so on. That has nothing to do with trade, that is a form of occupying a country without expensive warfare.

[@charleseriksen]

Correct. More and more trade with China. USA has lost.

[@dannywhite6256]

Pay your fair share

[@jenswetter251]

I wonder if you know anything about NATO and how it works, but I'd be happy to explain a few things. For starters: it's not a Golf resort that will kick out members who haven't paid a membership fee (because there is none). And members are allies, not club members, and therefore not open to extortion. Will I be hearing from you?

[@id5girl]

He won’t.

[@qlnbd]

McKay rhymes with eye not hay. Grr.

[@tootsie7]

Why Trump???? Why Biden?????

[@BigHunt206]

Trump 2024!!🎉🎉🎉

[@omarfierros4973]

MAGA: Back Not for Trump vote 2024

[@chrishigbie8645]

I answer Trump supporters like I'm from India so I can lister to their racist tirade. I'm retired it's fun .

[@grahamcampbell8297]

Europe will have to strengthen their own nuclear deterrent if Trump wins in America. I think Japan, Australia, South Korea and other countries in South East Asia will also seek nuclear weapons to defend themselves.

[@r.hubertmath4414]

TRUMP2024!

[@walterbenja7052]

GOD BLESS JOE BIDEN THE GREAT

[@chrisf8855]

WHAT......A.......JOKE🤡🤡🤡

[@mitchhills4747]

@@chrisf8855 Trump IS the joke. How someone can even run for office as a CONVICT is beyond reason.

[@walterbenja7052]

Biden = insuline at 35 Biden = better health insurance Biden = affordable college Biden = better gun control Biden = regulation of big pharma Biden = whealthy will pay their fair share. Biden = fight for minimum wage at 15 Biden = fight for working class Biden = support Ukrain Trump support dictator criminal putin trump Is a traitor for Ukrain Trump thinks only about him him him. Trump gaslight half americans with his lies : no one fraud in 2020 none . So yes : GOD BLESS JOE BIDEN THE GREAT

[@walterbenja7052]

Biden = insuline at 35 Biden = better health insurance Biden = affordable college Biden = better gun control Biden = regulation of big pharma Biden = whealthy will pay their fair share. Biden = fight for minimum wage at 15 Biden = fight for working class Biden = support Ukrain Trump support dictator criminal putin trump Is a traitor for Ukrain Trump thinks only about him him him. Trump gaslight half americans with his lies : no one fraud in 2020 none . So yes : GOD BLESS JOE BIDEN THE GREAT

[@taitraining3055]

Joe Biden is not "great" he is really only the lesser of two evils

[@Logicalhuman83]

Fake news

[@gkmusic402]

Jesus loves Trump! 🤘😎👍

[@margin606]

Alex Wagner doesn't seem to know her geography

[@rolandjeronimus1440]

Republicans can only lie because the truth is too bad. In Europe old statements are shown by Repblikeinen with what they say now is completely the opposite of what they said then. Were they lying now or then? Most of Trump's election staff are convicted criminals. We in Europe know more than most of the Trump supporters. Major international banks will not lend Trump a cent because he is a conman and his supporters think Trump is an honest businessman. Are Trump's supporters crazy or is the rest of the world crazy

[@jeremyblank8590]

It's time to negotiate!!