Proof the Governing Body Mislead People With Bad Biblical Bias

[@Alanhock75]

The second fulfilment of the kings dream in Daniel chapter 2, JWs pertain this to our time- yet nowhere does it say that, except in the watchtower?

[@exjehovahswitness]

oh yeah that is a good one alan

[@jameshigginbottom632]

Very insightful for those who are not informed about the teachings of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Good job Wally

[@exjehovahswitness]

thank you very much

[@Alansworstnight]

One if not my favorite video of yours Wally, great job, very informative and logical with points that can be easily shared with others who may be willing to listen 👍🏼

[@SequencesOfSounds]

Great video Wally! I've really enjoyed looking into Bible scholarship for this reason. I came across the 'everlasting punishment' issue not long ago and was blown away by the hubris to just completely alter the Bible for their own doctrine. It's also hilarious how the 144,000 passage just switches between literal and figurative between every sentence lol Old John was playing games

[@exjehovahswitness]

It is so funny to actually look at those verses in that way!

[@jacobfield4848]

It does not.

[@thirdeyeforex5490]

Wally, I really love your personality man.

[@exjehovahswitness]

hey thanks!

[@toddhayes3506]

@@exjehovahswitness Great Job Wally Experience Wisdom Critical Thinker

[@natashapeeters988]

03:00 minutes in... Yes, that fast!!!! When I was a little kid, they told me that it was 7 days/24 hours each... I am 54 years old today and I left the cult a long time ago... when I was 17 years old... awake before that.... !

[@dand3329]

Thanks!, Hi Wally and Zeezy. Did you ever do the spell to make the nail polish last longer ? 🙉🙈🙊

[@exjehovahswitness]

Thanks for the generosity! The funny thing is I actually did and the one time I did it lasted an extra couple of days. I am not sure if I was just being more careful but I would like to think it was the spell

[@dand3329]

@@exjehovahswitness haha 😄 supernatural nails, guess all the big problems are fixed now. Let's help Wally..said some Angel 😇

[@TechyBen]

The "waters above the waters" is literal and not just descriptive of the atmosphere, but "God cannot lie" must be figurative because they preach mistakes and errors all the time...

[@exjehovahswitness]

oh that's a good one techy!

[@scottgrey2877]

The Bible teaches flat earth

[@jvbagfacaden5097]

There is no “original text” in bibel only copies of copies

[@TreCayUltimateLife]

bruh I was feeling soo good and was literally drinking water at the same time so I gota comment. Thanks for all the content, Wally this is awesome stuff! =) Hope you have a great day buddy

[@exjehovahswitness]

keep hydrated! hahaha I like when stuff like that happens!

[@Sam9Born]

Once again the "nope" is perfectly executed hehehe. A thing that bothered me was the idea of receiving a blood transfusion is frowned upon by the jw. Blood means life and is holy to them. In my opinion rejecting it means rejecting life. The bible forbids "ingesting" blood, but thats not the same as a transfusion. A transfusion happens in an extremely controlled environment, while ingesting blood means eating or drinking blood.

[@natashapeeters988]

Yes and my Mom woke-up before they killed her with the "no blood " BS.... They killed her just before the new flashlights 🔦 😳 😪 she could have blood fractions.... Jehovah's witnesses are murderers. I was with my Mom at the hospital 🏥 when she was in coma. I asked to see the surgeon, doctors, specialists alone 😔 they declined.... They killed her. It's premeditated murder and they where in a conspiracy to do it. You have no idea how much my Mom apologized to me. I was victim of CSA and she told me to shut up, etc... long story short: she was CSA victim too... I hate those murderers acting like if they were good people... nothing is good in that cult 😕 I had more CSA....I had to go more often and for longer period of time every single time.... my clandestine "worldly " friend who knew because she didn't buy the bs I said about all my bruises.... she was 8 years old and big enough to tell the teachers, the director of the school and her dad and mom.... less than 5 minutes... everything was ready/ I would've been her sister... her parents ready to adopt me, etc... we moved to Canada 🇨🇦 in a hurry and I was never allowed to have her letters ✉️ and my mom was burning 🔥 mine too! After decades, my daughter made a fb page and she was the first person to ask friendship to me..... She's in Belgium 🇧🇪 and I am in British Columbia, Canada 🇨🇦.... She traveled to see me in 2018 when we both turned 50 years old... what a 🎁 💝 gift 🎁 ... it was like we were never separated.... my real sister ❤️ 💓 💛 💕 I don't recommend to try to find friends from school to anyone. 1 friend tried and it didn't go well.... Yvette and I, our story is very, very different than everybody else. It can bring very down a person when it doesn't end up so nice.... People can feel of no value at all, and sometimes worse 😕... if they don't search you... just : don't do it 😑. HAVE NO EXPECTATIONS ! Lots of us, me included don't have such friendships at school... our friendship was and still out of the ordinary.... we had to hide to see each other... running through the forest and fields to meet halfway and talk.... she had plenty of other friends, she still have and a unique great person/ since she was 8 years old , you don't find that at each corner... it's Really not usual.... but: gee, I am happy 😊 😃 She is part of my family that I made ❤️ a real family with friends that still my family since 1986.... best friends/ my real family!!! 💓 🌞🥰🤩 real persons who have unconditional ❤️ love. We don't really know in what we believe or not. We don't need the stupidity ... real love/friendship is not based on what you believe , what you eat or idiotic things that watchtower /jwborg is trying to feed you with... I am so glad that I was never dead from my suicides attempts. Just don't do it people , nothing is better than life and I went through hell and back. Try to find help! I am not a psychologist I have no degree in anything.... but you can message me if you want and when I will get my phone "case" resolved !! I am often out of service. Spring time, summer and fall time I am really lot of the time camping 🏕 on a private camp site, in winter, snowmobile paradise is here.... I love being out of cell phone range.. . Out of my little town: we are out of service 2 km away... My cat 🐈 comes camping 🏕 with me ,no leash or collar... he loves ❤️ it. A cat 🐈 that I rescue from a pet-shop... he was too bad, aggressive.... I took him because he would've been killed... 5 families took him and gave him back.... this cat is traveling and camping with me///just saying that we never know what tomorrow will be...🥰🤗😲😉🙂

[@Sam9Born]

@@natashapeeters988 im very sorry to hear so...

[@WWZenaDo]

@Raphael K - In addition to that, the bible writers were talking about the ban on ingesting ANIMAL blood. Iirc there are no comments in the bible about eating human blood, despite the occasional instance of human child sacrifices to BOTH the deities of the polytheistic groups around the Israelites, and the Israelites themselves sacrificing to "Jehovah" aka Yahweh aka the YHWH deity.

[@Sam9Born]

@@WWZenaDo yeah exactly! I once had an accident at the workplace. I got a tetanus shot because in my head it was the right thing to do. I had the card that said i had taken a shot, my mother found it and i get a whole-ass lecture as to why it was wrong. And it still didnt make any sense. The bible doesnt even say anything about blood particles so how is there a rule like that . The only thing the bible says is u cant INGEST (animal) blood

[@c.t8958]

Ex: where do they get the 144000 doctrine? They say this number is literal. (Rev 7) 12000 x 12=144000. 12000 is symbolic 12 is symbolic but for some reason 144000 is literal!!!

[@scottgrey2877]

Thousand means complete the 144,000 are not the nation of Israel

[@billjones261]

The bible doesn't say anything about making a vow of loyalty to a group of designated men during baptism which the GB men have installed during all JWS baptisms. To enact loyalty to the GB men of the WTS/JWS you instantly turn yourself in support and share the sins of these false prophet apostates which these men have immersed themselves with and further support their false biblical teachings. These men have used coercive deceiving tactics which are scriptural apostasy to make other people unrighteous in the eyes of god .

[@josephd27]

Amen

[@natashapeeters988]

14:30... You're making me laugh 😃 so much Wally... I think that they will say that they foretold incinerator doctrine.... LOL 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

[@alexanderx33]

14:20 It is in fact possible for fires to burn underground and its actually a major problem when it occurs in landfills. (structural collapse, destruction of plastic liners etc) I don't know whether the conditions would allow it to happen in a mass grave.

[@davebenthimer4154]

Love all your videos by the way .. just a thought.

[@jamin2859]

Great video

[@moltenmermaid1517]

I feel water, and I'm drinking good.

[@exjehovahswitness]

stay hydrated!

[@Sahira-123]

Oh yeah, feelin' GOO*OOD!! 😂😋Oh, and i did have some nice water to go with! Excellent video!!

[@xnouztion2660]

I see it as eternal punishment is like you remain dead you don't get resurrected therefore the punishment continues to be eternal and the opposite is everlasting life.

[@susanjane5837]

So true! The 144000 teaching is one of the most unprovable-by-scripture false teachings! On a side note, my cat was sleeping but woke up and stared at you when you made your "blowing raspberries" sound with your finger. Then he went back to sleep.

[@exjehovahswitness]

hahaha I like when cats wake up for two seconds and give you a look of disapproval then go back to sleep. It's like, the world is bad enough without you giving me the stink eye!

[@rickwilkerson3865]

The Watchtower’s mode of operation and with much success is to: Teach conjecture and make arguments using loaded language and logical fallacies and deliver it using the Monological Discursive teaching method reserved for Math and Sciences in Academia. Not noticeable to the untrained eye in most cases. The silver sword is icing on the cake.

[@nojw7940]

WHY is JW Headquarter in Warwick STILL NOT RAIDED by Police special task forces????

[@toddhayes3506]

Great Job Wally 👍 Truth

[@mashayah1930]

👑🛡️ Good Wally! Bring down the Tower.1 Maccabees 3:48 [48] And laid open the book of the Law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likenesse of their images.👑🛡️

[@exjehovahswitness]

thanks! it's wally btw but I assume you know that

[@mashayah1930]

@@exjehovahswitness 👑🛡️Does it really make a difference Wally? I'm not trying to insult you.😉🛡️👑

[@exjehovahswitness]

oh sorry you have told me before that you were trying to insult me because you don't like me so I thought that is what was happening. Well thanks for having a change of heart

[@mashayah1930]

@@exjehovahswitness 👑🛡️ That's only when you try to put down TheMostHigh. I don't care what you say about jw watchtower.🛡️👑

[@leaguthrie]

Even though I am not nor have even been a Jw I was raised in that cult and my mother n sisters still are, I still read the bible and still used their bible for my own reading purposes. That is until I learned the truth of their bible and then it went straight into the trash.

[@governingbodylanguage2025]

Great one Wally! FYI: Meh, I came here and hit like to bring it from 69 to 70, then was distracted by a comment reply and had to go reply back to the mansplaning possibly patriarchal person (remnants of patriarchy?). Then I came back and the likes were at 69 again and mine wasn't registered, so I hit it again. Also, in the category of "Ew David!" (Shitt's creek, watch it!) Thank you quitting the strap on phraseology! 😂 However, then you go on to talk about tacos... 😂 I know it was innocent, I just have a dirty mind, in large part thanks to my PIMI husband!!! (Who I am currently committed to, no worries, it's just "inappropriate"/"loose" talk among apostates.:) My mind was already in the gutter hitting the like button twice when it was at 69... OMG.

[@exjehovahswitness]

hahaha that was one of the more entertaining comments! it was an actual story with comedy and plot twists

[@AGoddess]

I would say that eternal doesn’t mean it has to last forever. You burn. You die. Dead for eternity. Not burning forever. Just my take :) Tartarus is a primordial god from the GrecoRoman pantheon which makes sense since thats where the NT was written. Its kinda cool how you can see them borrowing Hades and Tartarus from other religious literature. Which shows me these people were never Monotheistic.

[@exjehovahswitness]

Yeah, I had 3 hours of footage on this one and was trying to cut it down to 30 minutes. The subject was probably too big for a 30-minute video, but I am trying to not talk much! I think I might revisit hell in a deep dive video.

[@mattmurdock2868]

God is eternal. Does that mean He is forever and ever, or just "eternal" for awhile.?

[@blahsaysme2u]

Just also like to note- Jews/isrealites also didnt/don't beleive in hell...I dont beleive in the bible as gods word - but if I did and when I did this held a lot of weight since Christians are really Jewish with a messiah that showed- only difference...core beliefs should be the same but we see they aren't

[@scottgrey2877]

It means the flesh totally destroyed burnt up for ever the torment is total restraint

[@ZoeBellCake]

Is that the Holo Taco Bep Bep Blue and One Coat Black on your nails? (If not, highly recommend the one coat black!)

[@exjehovahswitness]

I will check it out thanks!

[@thelogicaldanger]

I think eternal punishment could refer to eternal death, and there is some reason to believe the "everlasting fire" of the Bible is meant to be literal. Mar 9:48 also talks about "their worm never dies, and the fire not quenched." If literal, then are these doomed souls trapped in bodies that are forever rotting without being consumed? I personally, think eternal death is the eternal punishment, and the talk of fire and worms that go on forever is just a metaphor for a death that one will never recover from (eternal death.) But I don't know Greek or Hebrew, nor do I lead any cult or religion, so my opinion is just that.

[@exjehovahswitness]

yeah I do feel there is room for people to fill in the gaps because none of it is super clear! makes it kind of fun

[@mattmurdock2868]

And what of eternal life.? Is there another meaning for that, or will "eternal" life also end..?

[@thelogicaldanger]

@@mattmurdock2868 The literal meaning of eternal life is that the person never dies. The literal meaning of eternal punishment means the punishment never ends, if the punishment is death, then that means the person will be eternally dead. The meaning of eternal is the same in both, what is debated is what the eternal punishment is--is it eternal death, or is it eternal torture?

[@heywoodlass4033]

Hello everyone Oh wow - great video consideration. You've said exactly what I regularly think about the re-writing of the Bible. How can anyone have the clout to alter. Such irresponsibility. Just watching the 144,000 part of your video. So glad you highlight the tribes, and then the requirements of the 144,000. So, question is, how many of the GB are virgins? etc

[@chroniclesoflucifer]

Haha, drinking water! Great rant so far!

[@exjehovahswitness]

hahaha! don't forget to hydrate!

[@mecciah7919]

This video is perfect

[@danielecolla5767]

Amazing video. You caught them with their own hands in the hole.

[@shawnweaver8134]

I was told one of our kingdom hall elders was a member of the 144000 in oldhill West Midlands he was the only one who could have communion at Easter

[@Jaslovesoto]

For me reading the script in what the Christ stated that no one has gone to heaven where he has come from just him which he stated, I go with his words on that then this men. It's something it says the ones that will rule as kings and priest it says on the earth or in some over the earth not in heaven, something to think about.

[@exjehovahswitness]

yeah trying to make this was hard because I had nearly three hours of footage and tried to edit it down to 30 min. I probably should have left some stuff in there of just to cover the subject better.

[@thelogicaldanger]

Denominations or groups that believe that, believe that all humans will reside on earth and that God will himself come to earth to live Revelation 21:1-2...so Wally's point that there is nowhere in the Bible that states some Christians will be in heaven and other Christians left on earth is true. All Christians will be together with God, and wherever God is, that is Heaven, so whether that "heaven" ends up being in the physical location of earth, or elsewhere, is irrelevant.

[@josephd27]

Another great video breakdown of the false WT teachings

[@rickwilkerson3865]

It is their 144k doctrine that theologically closes the Kingdom of the Heavens to their followers, which then denies them being Children of God, denies them Baptism into Christ. As a result they came up with a different baptism. The dedication vow arrangement. Thus, they are not baptized according to what Jesus instructed his disciples in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

[@scottgrey2877]

They believe they will be children of God in paradise

[@suitcasemurphy1220]

Doesn’t “Daniel timeline prophecy” by JW almost equate to astrology/magic? Seems that “Puritan prophecy” is similar to fortune telling. 🔮

[@exjehovahswitness]

yeah they definitely are okay with the magic in the bible, but modern magic is evil

[@freeurmind609]

@@exjehovahswitness That hate worldly system but love Satan's magical gadgets 🤣🤣

[@jordanissport]

Devil's advocate, eternal punishment could mean eternal death.

[@exjehovahswitness]

yeah fair enough. I think when yo take the totality of scriptures that talk about torment and fire the bible paints a pretty clear picture

[@jordanissport]

@@exjehovahswitness gotta think about when did those ideas come into existence. Pre or post exile from Babylon. The Zoroastrians left quite the fingerprint on the people who returned to Israel

[@exjehovahswitness]

yeah I really like seeing how the zoroastrians influenced the entire religion

[@scottgrey2877]

@@jordanissport the torment is total restraint can't do anything dead

[@natashapeeters988]

29min. Wally, I think that the planet earth 🌏 is too small for all the resurections... pretty soon: they will have to go "Mormons " way and have more planets... 😉 😀 Personally, I think that it is hilarious 😂 😃 😄

[@davidmathiesen8656]

They do not encourage their members to read other versions because they are afraid they will realise JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO ETERNAL LIFE.

[@ariloves10]

John 8:25 25 “Who are you?” they asked. “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied. Now look at NWT JW Bible. Its the worst blasphemy.

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????

[@positivevibes6352]

OMG...i needed to see this, thank you

[@ariloves10]

@@positivevibes6352 your welcome. This is the verse that really woke me up. I spent days comparing every last Bible translation of this verse.

[@DM-he1ug]

Bible Hub has some interesting information regarding this verse- New Revised Standard Version- They said to him, “Who are you?” Jesus said to them, “Why do I speak to you at all?" "Almost every word of this answer is in the Greek capable of more than one meaning, and the true interpretation of the whole sentence cannot be decided with certainty." "The Greek Fathers understood τὴν ἀρχὴν as equivalent to ὅλως, a meaning it frequently bears; and they interpret the clause as an exclamation, “That I should even speak to you at all!”"...

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

@@DM-he1ug So all different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible???????

[@ariloves10]

God bless everyone reading this. I wish you freedom in our Lord Christ Jesus and pray our Father give you the courage to shun the false God Hovah.

[@ariloves10]

@@astridmiller7938 after you Google The New Strong's Exhaustive Concordance 1942 and 1943 let's see if it's still funny. This angry demon ain't no joke.

[@ariloves10]

@@astridmiller7938 it's ok though, Jesus is more powerful and will protect us 🙏💛🤗

[@ariloves10]

@@astridmiller7938 Astrid I'm sorry to hear this. I don't know what brought you to this video, or subject matter, but I am a first hand witness with eye witness testimony of what I have seen and endured in my 55 years on this earth. I was lured into this satanic cult, that poses as the 1 true religion yada yada yada they are the greatest and only true blah blah blah, only to discover after 40 years this called j HOVAH is a real demon. As God is my witness Jesus saved me. He literally saved my life. Each one of us has a horror story of our own The demons are real and they hate children. They seek to murder every child and destroy families. Jesus loves you more than you can probably imagine if you have no belief thus far. The worst crime the leaders of this satanic cult have done is rob the flock of heaven. Heaven is our birth right. It is our home where we came from and where we are going when we leave earth. I don't know you but that's the whole point It's our job to proclaim the kingdom of heaven, so you can know and be saved. If nothing else, please give Jesus a chance. When death comes for you it is not the end. Call on Jesus to save you and He Will. Call on Jesus anytime and watch all the miracles He will perform for you. Jesus loves you just as you are. You are perfect 💛🎁💪 NKJV Bible. John 11:25-26 [25]Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. [26]And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” John 11:25, 26 God bless you all the days of your life with happiness, love and joy 🙏🙏🙏

[@natashapeeters988]

Sorry for my tome 1 of the book 📖 😅 but I had to tell! Hope that you are doing well Wally. You are in the top list of my favorite apostates... Do you know jw fairytale ✨️?? He helped me so much to deal with my rage , aggressivity, I still listen to his videos when I need it.... for a thing that I don't understand, he's my cat's favorite voice...

[@ManoloVintage]

For anyone who would like to know. The words eternal punishment Jesus used in Matthew 25:46 means "practically eternal". aiónios Phonetic Spelling: (ahee-o'-nee-os) Definition: agelong, eternal Usage: age-long, and therefore: practically eternal, This "hell" is the 1,000 year judgment time period over the wicked, which comes after the deadline to repent- called Armageddon. Same for those who have "eternal life" in this same verse*. It is "practically eternal". God uses the words to describe "eternal life" (practically) as "living like the days of a tree" in Isaiah 65. They will practically seem to live eternally but God is including the fact that the last enemy death is still around. That last enemy "death" will not be destroyed until after the 1,000 years are over and God has brought all the wicked to repentance and eternal life, where death is no where to be found for anyone anymore. We are in this together. There is a process of God bringing everyone to Life, so we must love our enemies. Either you are "first fruits" or you are last fruits but its a process for us all to come in at the end of the 1,000 years. The 1,000 year judgment period is no picnic for the wicked. But It's a picnic for the righteous and there will be nothing the righteous can do to "cross over from here to there" , crossing over the chasm, to help the unrighteous. *Matthew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Breakdown: There is the Great Tribulation that comes before Armageddon to correct and refined people before the deadline of Armageddon. After the deadline of Armageddon comes the 1,000 judgment period, the millennial reign. If you did not repent before then then you stay as imperfect as you are and you're locked in to what you chose for yourself and your life, while the righteous around you prosper and live on in perfect bodies. You can repent during the 1,000 year reign but you won't be resurrected to eternal life or gain eternal life until after the 1,000 years are over. Thanks for reading this long thing.

[@exjehovahswitness]

Thanks. I ended up cutting those parts out for a little brevity

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible??????????

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

@@exjehovahswitness All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible????????

[@mattmurdock2868]

The Bible will not support your beliefs. Bible=Word of God. NWT=ever changing word of Watchtower.

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

@@mattmurdock2868 Okay so the Bible is supporting all different churches including exjws beliefs??????

[@DY2784]

Reason why there are sooo many Faiths based on the same one book... Plainly open to individual interpretations... 🤔🙄🤪

[@davebenthimer4154]

Wally you haven't touched on the ancient alien theory

[@melvinkumar89]

*strap in :D

[@Gypsy839]

But Wally they always pick and choose!

[@joschawil]

Hello Wally, living in "La-la-la-la-la-la" land keeps the JWs from opening their mouths to ask if the Bible is absolutely accurate. They used to marvel on their accuracy of translation. And then they paraphrased the Bible with their grey-colored translation. (Wow, grey-colored translation...hmmmm). But as such the rules of d-finng keeps them all from questions.

[@exjehovahswitness]

No questions are ever asked if doubt is something that is considered satanic

[@KristyAnn]

Hi Wally! Oh no I can't remember which Scripture it is exactly but there is one scripture where they literally say one half is literal and the other half is symbolic. (Actually there are a few they do that with) The one I am thinking of is about the 144,000 being in heaven with the Great Crowd. The 144,000 are literally in heaven BUT the Great Crowd well they aren't REALLY THERE that part is pretend LMAO😊👍 Great Video Once Again Wally😎👍

[@MC-pe4cn]

Hey Wally I’m first

[@exjehovahswitness]

yo yo yo what up!

[@danielecolla5767]

the whole book of Revelation is all symbolic. Apocalyptic was a literary genre very popular in the old days. Like today science fiction is a popular literary genre. Let say in 2 thousand year, someone reads and science fiction book and start making decisions about what is reality and what is not. Daniel and John apocalyptic writers would laugh their hearts out listening to JW interpretation of their own writings.

[@helenr4300]

And clearly a commentary on Rome, on 7 hills, 7horns etc and the name Nero = 666 (or in alt manuscripts using a different spelling 616)

[@drensh5665]

I don't know if it's just me or does your studio sound a bit low....

[@helenr4300]

To be fair the Hebrew scriptures did not have a se se of heaven and hell, hence focus on blessing I. This world a d through family legacy. So sheol did mean grave. The Greek Hades had a sense of arriving in the underworld but not really conscious. It is valid to challenge the idea of a permenant suffering hell. Jesus referred to the constant fire at Gehenna, the waste tip outside Jerusalem, the flame may be eternal, but items thrown there were not. However people needed to deal with the issues of wicked people prospering whild the poor suffered. So the concept of hell was creeping in at the time of Jesus and beyond. So that those not punished in the world will face punishment later. In the same way the modern rejection of hell is also based on the need for fairness. And eternal punishment for a finite crime is deemed unfair so society rejects is Christianity as unfair. A lot of post medieval hell fire was rooted in Dantes Inferno. And it was very useful for controlling the masses, so made a big deal.

[@Ladyresidue]

Gaslighting at its best! 🤔

[@johnrobinsoniii4028]

What’s bad about it? Because it’s the Bible in modern speech? C’mon-give it a rest!!!!

[@KeihatsuWarrior]

Imagine being told that the sky is red, even though it’s blue, would you believe it?

[@mattmurdock2868]

Bible=Word of God. NWT=ever changing word of Watchtower.

[@rickybobby9886]

The only thing they got right was god's name, and a new heavens and Earth. They literally made everything else up. There doctrine is so easy to prove wrong.

[@ingramwright5399]

Didn't get the name right.

[@TruthSpeaker.]

Ricky, good thing the bible is mythology

[@calanm7880]

Yeah with the name they aren't even close, but it was a part of Russell's shtick to make up for him knowing zero actual Hebrew or Greek (which he famously showed in court... he didn't even know the alphabet). Modern JW leadership know fine well God's name isn't Jehovah, but they don't actually care because it's importance is in corporate branding the religious control of people by a Publishing and Real Estate company.

[@exjehovahswitness]

The new heavens and earth they kind of stuff to because they say it's figurative

[@thelogicaldanger]

They are wrong about God's name, God's name is YHWH, no one really knows how to pronounce it, but "Yahweh" is believed to be the most likely pronunciation. Jehovah is no where in the original texts, it was put in by a translator who had no idea how to pronounced YHWH either.

[@f4rnsworth138]

There are some scholars (secular not ones with religious bias) who have said that some of WT teachings may be correct. I believe Bart Ehrman talked about that a little on the Mythvision channel. He wasn't talking specifically about them but when he got to teachings that most Christians accept but that may be wrong he mentioned the two-tiered reward system. He's not the only one either. I remember hearing an interview on NPR with another scholar who mentioned that the idea of a heavenly reward probably started with Paul because the jews of Jesus' day tended to believe in a physical reward not a spiritual one. Well, fast forward a few decades and Jerusalem falls, all the Christians expect God to establish his kingdom and NOTHING happens then along comes Paul with his teachings of a more "real" reward. I believe it was a more Socratic philosophy, that what we see isn't the real reality. It's the Materialist vs Idealist argument. Paul's background was in the Idealist side so he taught that what we have in the material world is only a reflection of the Ideal reality. The Ideal of course being heaven. Not everyone qualifies for that reward but they may still qualify for the lesser earthly reward. Dr. Ehrman (I think that's who it was) also mentioned another area where WT may have been correct, and it may have been about hell. His attitude was pretty funny actually. It was like, as unbelievable as it is this group may have actually gotten something right! But like they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Scholars with a religious dog in the fight tend to disagree with JWs, but then again they have their own power to try and maintain. And for me this is all a huge part of why I don't believe anymore. You can find a scripture to back up almost any position. Is hell real, here's a few scriptures for that. Is it not real, here's a few for that. Trinity? Same thing. Slavery good or bad? Here's a few more. That the supposed perfect Word of God can be legitimately interpreted in such drastically different ways says a lot about it's not-so-divine origins. About the only thing it is consistent on is that God doesn't care about children or the unborn. The flood, Jericho, the 10th plaugue, the Benjaminite war, Sodom, etc, all bear that out. How many exceptions were made for kids or pregnant women? None. Unless they were virgin girls, and we already know why

[@cygnustsp]

There's literally no difference between JW paradise and Christian paradise. It's all based on magically living in supernatural conditions in an actual human body. Watchtower tries to make it seem more real and practical and preys on the idea that "heaven" is something different. I attended a church once that taught nobody goes to heaven and that Jesus' message was entirely political and he'd come back but there'd be no paradise immediately, he'd rule from Jerusalem to fix things. Makes a lot more sense than the JW 144000 thing. Wasn't there speculation once that the 144000 could materialize bodies and hang out with the great crowd if they wanted to? It's all so silly.

[@exjehovahswitness]

don't forget about the super fruit! they all need some super fruit to live forever

[@deborahwentworth8792]

Hegelian Dialect.

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any bibles better then nun!!! i like the large bibles they hit harder!!

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FIRST ... 😅

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