Experts: Tintype photo of Billy the Kid, Pat Garrett could be worth millions

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Experts: Tintype photo of Billy the Kid, Pat Garrett could be worth millions - Source: krqe.com/2017/11/13/experts-ti...

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@jeffgallant649
@jeffgallant649 4 жыл бұрын
People claiming they get pictures of Billy the Kid like he was taking selfies back in those days
@regisidec5478
@regisidec5478 9 ай бұрын
Well, if you knew anything about history, you would know that photographs traveling photographer is in particular were fairly new thing in that area and many ranchers, rustlers , outlaws, and lawmen alike partook in photography because it was new and interesting and like modern society we jump on the NEW thing
@bonnierose1148
@bonnierose1148 6 ай бұрын
"selfies back in those days"😇😇
@HauntedByHeroesX
@HauntedByHeroesX 2 жыл бұрын
Fyi > for those wondering how a photograph lasted 140+ years, this was not made on paper. It was caustic chemicals, that chemically burn into metal. Thus the nam, tin-type. It is a tin metal photograph. Not paper. I love this legend, and the history. Remarkable discovery of history here. Glad we all could share this information together. Be well...
@stephenc8
@stephenc8 6 жыл бұрын
Young guns two got it right, they were “pals”
@anuannunakki5408
@anuannunakki5408 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong that was the Fey energy involved with the Regulator crew had nothing to do with that coward and sellout who had an Enlil architype. Memorize the archon. This is shit that is very real. Never trust Enlil
@Yet1moreUtuber
@Yet1moreUtuber 5 жыл бұрын
*Holy Crap!* Everybody and their uncle has a photo of Billy the Kid now . He's gone from one photograph to the most photographed.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 3 ай бұрын
well they all know what the tin type sold for now everyone wants some money! Thats not billy anyway
@danielblackburn1241
@danielblackburn1241 2 ай бұрын
Agree , not Billy . But could be Pat​@dodgeramsport01
@denisforman854
@denisforman854 6 жыл бұрын
THIS LOOKS NOTHING LIKE BILLY THE KID
@treatb09
@treatb09 6 жыл бұрын
agreed. the face has been scrubbed to add obscurity.
@chardtomp
@chardtomp 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, the people who knew Billy in life said the famous tintype of him was an awful picture that didn't really look like him. The girls especially said he was a lot better looking than that tintype suggests.
@ronniebishop2496
@ronniebishop2496 5 жыл бұрын
denis forman You know how quickly kids change looks from being in high school and this photo looks like he probably really looked that tintype was not his best look at all they said.
@anthonyl4875
@anthonyl4875 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately none of us here are experts in tin types so with all the true experts confirming it is, then I guess I need to believe it is Billy. Though I do agree it does not look like Billy, obviously they see something that we do not .
@davidm11dm92
@davidm11dm92 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh you look nothing axel rose and we ain't say shit but you look like a hill billy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@erikmiller4732
@erikmiller4732 6 жыл бұрын
I don't believe for a second that PAT GARRETT shot BILLY THE KID in the back. They were friends. BILLY lived to be an old man.
@damiion666
@damiion666 4 жыл бұрын
Erik Miller lol
@adrian72300
@adrian72300 4 жыл бұрын
@captain crankypants It's said they go fishing with Bigfoot and Jimmy Hoffa when on vacation, after, after, they get back from the Moon
@1981lashlarue
@1981lashlarue 3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Miller Nobody claimed he shot him in the back.
@rayepate1464
@rayepate1464 2 жыл бұрын
LIVED to be,LIVED
@armymomheatherc
@armymomheatherc 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I agree. Read my above posts.It explains my theory.
@jerrysetlerr770
@jerrysetlerr770 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't look anything like the other pictures.
@williamsteele1296
@williamsteele1296 6 жыл бұрын
i find it strange 1 photo for over a hundred years now there is 4 photos and it hat to be with garret im smelling a rat
@Steve52344
@Steve52344 6 жыл бұрын
It could very well be Garrett in the photo, but the image of "Billy" is unconvincing.
@Nigtarr99
@Nigtarr99 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they all look older then billy the kid's age so maybe pat but no way one of them is billy the kid
@chisox1085
@chisox1085 2 жыл бұрын
Idk billy and the guy in the photo have the same chin size
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 3 ай бұрын
yes I agree not him at all
@Steve52344
@Steve52344 3 ай бұрын
@@dodgeramsport01 No one's going to shell out good money for an unauthenticated Billy the Kid.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 3 ай бұрын
@@Steve52344 I was refering to the picture here in this post that has the 5 men in it!That one in the left back that they say is billy is not him!
@nerblebun
@nerblebun 6 жыл бұрын
I see the "experts" have weighed in on the authenticity of this tintype & the verdict is unanimous. KZbin experts claim this is NOT Billy the Kid, nor Pat Garret. Very well gentlemen, please produce evidence of your qualifications that PROVE you have the expertise in the field of Forensic Photography. What? No credentials? Then it's nothing more than your opinion.
@chrisbibber6199
@chrisbibber6199 6 жыл бұрын
Didnt you know? Everyone on youtube is a time traveler, and has spent time with billy the kid as his best friend, so they know for a fact it is not him!
@skipstalforce
@skipstalforce 6 жыл бұрын
Ok then you should have no problem selling it
@chrisbibber6199
@chrisbibber6199 6 жыл бұрын
I would have no problem selling it. I would hype that thing up, gain a ton of interest in it, and sell it for as much as I could get for it. Money would go a lot further than a trinket sitting in a desk drawer. However, the original comment had nothing to do with selling the item, but rather the claims; or refuting of the items authenticity; and those who were claiming it was not BtK, or Patty Garrett.
@rickyrick9328
@rickyrick9328 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Grandpa the Gay.
@skipstalforce
@skipstalforce 6 жыл бұрын
That ain't billy or pat and if a 100 layman can spot that then what does make your experts?
@NUJAC1000
@NUJAC1000 6 жыл бұрын
I collect old tin types ...maybe I should take closer looks because several supposedly are from new mexico
@zthetha
@zthetha 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't look remotely like either in comparison to known photographs of the pair. However, Pat and Billy were friends and the undue haste with which Billy was buried before formal identification speaks to me of deception. The public loved photos of dead outlaws yet none exist of Billy whose staged death was convenient for both catapulting Pat to national celebrity and Billy to an annonymous new life.
@cba4389
@cba4389 3 жыл бұрын
Pat Garrett was accused at the time of not really trying to catch Billy since they had been friends before. The fact they had known each other and were friends was never a secret.
@considerthelilies91
@considerthelilies91 2 жыл бұрын
With only 4 photographers in the NM territory in the heat of summer, the Kid's burial was not delayed. Later flooding washed his true remains and wherabouts to be unknown, adding to his mystique.
@hannuhlynn
@hannuhlynn 2 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree - this photograph looks just like the two! I knew immediately who was who the minute i saw the photo for longer than a few seconds. I paused it and pointed each one out - even Dirty Dave! So, maybe it doesn't look like them to you, but someone that can recognize features specific to a person as well as analyze the face mentally, can see it -- plainly.
@armymomheatherc
@armymomheatherc 2 жыл бұрын
@@cba4389 I have 0 doubt that Garrett faked shooting the Kid. The poor soul they buried wasn't him. The Kid and Garrett went thru thick and thin together as outlaw rustlers. Garrett viewed the Kid like a little brother. THERE IS 0 WAY he was ever going to kill his "adopted " kid brother thus becoming a targeted man himself in the outlaw ranks. Elizabeth Garrett, Pats own daughter basically says this in a 1983 interview before her Death. She 100% states, her father never killed the Kid. For the reasons I stated above. It was just a code you didn't break back in those days. That said, Brushy Bill wasn't the kid. He lied. He was just washed up , old and wanted 2 amuse himself by spinning those yarns. I bet he laughed his ass off privately. Brushy was never gonna out a lifelong outlaw friend like the Kid. Its an unwritten old west Code. He lived by that til he died. Even if he had 2 lie. Thats the truth. Pat Garretts own daughter had 0 to gain telling the interviewer what she did. Thats all the evidence I need that the Kid wasn't killed that day, period.
@armymomheatherc
@armymomheatherc 2 жыл бұрын
@@hannuhlynn Its the Kid, 1000%. I agree. Which lends 100% Creedence 2 the idea that the Kids death was a well planned hoax by everyone involved. I am fairly sure even Brushy Bill was in on the sham. These guys were like blood brothers then. They never made a move without all of them knowing. Its how they stayed free of the Law. What better way 2 achieve this than 2 have a FORMER RUSTLER in Garrett "working" for the law on the side? Basically kin to the Mafia back in the day. I promise ya, the Kid was protected and likely wanted 2 live a different life, one of a family man. He likely did that. The Kid, being the youngest, was allowed to do so via the well planned hoax. HE was able 2 have a fresh start, likely in Mexico where he could blend in quietly. Garrett was a HUGE part of this. All the rumors of him being in disguise was a ruse. Likely guys like Brushy and many other friends and family throwing the scent off his trail over the years til he died, til THEY DIED AS WELL. We are still talking about it right now as a result. Garretts daughter in 1983 had 0 reason 2 lie. She told the truth. Garrett didn't kill him. The kid was tired of being hunted and his friends wanted him 2 be free of that lifestyle as he was basically their Kid brother in a real sense.One day we will find all this 2 be verified and true.
@celticnorthman3615
@celticnorthman3615 6 жыл бұрын
That's not the Kid!!!
@teddee4572
@teddee4572 4 жыл бұрын
It's you. same long ugly face 😂
@strangelyfamiliar1729
@strangelyfamiliar1729 3 жыл бұрын
'Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid'. For those who haven't seen it is an excellent movie. Definite Classic!
@ernestbywater411
@ernestbywater411 6 жыл бұрын
Pat Garret was elected Sheriff of Lincoln County in November 2, 1880 which is three months after the date on the photo you gave, so there's nothing to explain because both were living in Fort Sumner for a couple of years at the time of the photo, so they would've known each other because the population wasn't that big back then.
@wyldflwr
@wyldflwr 6 жыл бұрын
Ernest Bywater He was elected November 7, 1880.
@txgunguy2766
@txgunguy2766 6 жыл бұрын
Of course they knew each other. It's well known that they were good friends and poker buddies until Pat became sheriff.
@MrCrpayne79
@MrCrpayne79 6 жыл бұрын
Why is garret hanging with Rutabaugh though? He was a scoundrel
@Hooch3sfg
@Hooch3sfg 6 жыл бұрын
They all rustled cattle together before Garret was told by Wallace he was going to be Sheriff and work with the Cattleman's Assc. And this was per John Chisum's request to Lew Wallace. Even after Garret shot Billy, John Poe said that's not the kid, but went along with it anyway. The supposed one shot per Poe was a man named Billy Barlow
@hoochdeeznuts5270
@hoochdeeznuts5270 6 жыл бұрын
Hooch Killabrew Also Fort Sumner resident John Graham confirmed that the body was that of Billy Barlow had a beard and brown skin and was the one they buried the next day. Manuel Taylor out of silver city was one of the 2 that pry’d the bars off the chimney at the old court house stated Billy Barlow had befriended The kid earlier in the year, later finding out he was going to turn him in for the reward, when he saw the guys at maxwells house Barlow enetered past the 2 men one being John Poe, at the doorway into maxwells bedroom and garret shot him by mistake or maybe for other reasons.
@eduardocarrochio6326
@eduardocarrochio6326 6 жыл бұрын
there is still only one undisputed authentic photograph of billy the kid
@M-113
@M-113 6 ай бұрын
and what makes it undisputed? because someone told you it was?
@denisgaubert7157
@denisgaubert7157 5 жыл бұрын
The supposed "signature" of Pat Garrett is about 1/16 of an inch high. (The tintype is about 3 inches by 3 1/4 inches.) I would love for the "experts" to show us how Garrett signed a legible signature that size. Did he use a magnifying glass and an acupuncture needle?
@denisgaubert7157
@denisgaubert7157 5 жыл бұрын
I call BS on the supposed signature and other "names" and date.
@Chicano_pistolero
@Chicano_pistolero Жыл бұрын
They said it was on his lapel in the photo not the actual photo
@anthonyl4875
@anthonyl4875 5 жыл бұрын
With it having Pat Garrett and Billy the kid in the same photo being such a rare find by itself worth unknown high amount of money, then throw in Dave Rudobough ( if I spelled his last name right) that not only had close ties to Billy the kid but Dave also had very close ties to Doc Holiday that was verified and I believe ties to Wyatt Earp but not as strong as with Doc Holiday. So having Dave in the photo to just increases the value to a unheard of level I am positive.
@theauthorparrishgorejack6409
@theauthorparrishgorejack6409 6 жыл бұрын
An amazing discovery. And this photo does give some credence to Brushy Bill Roberts claim. If not Brushy being the Kid, then at least his story that Billy the Kid and Pat Garrett were friends at one time. Just maybe the movie Young Guns 2 is actually more non-fiction than fiction. Even before I ever heard the tale of Brushy Bill Roberts I questioned certain things regarding Pat Garretts story and the aftermath of him killing the Kid. First, why would they bury the Kid right away and not return his body to show the authorities the Kid was dead? Yes, they have the testimony of the officers that assisted Garrett, but there would have been no doubt if Garrett had taken the body back with him.
@NationOfMasturbation
@NationOfMasturbation 3 жыл бұрын
Brushy was a fraud, but I see what you mean
@patrickhiggins7251
@patrickhiggins7251 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go watch young guns lol
@xstorm_8_shadowx
@xstorm_8_shadowx 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Higgins did you see the size of that chicken?
@Rnlfields-zl2eq
@Rnlfields-zl2eq 6 жыл бұрын
We’re in the spirit world
@firebird_spleen4190
@firebird_spleen4190 5 жыл бұрын
Not historically correct
@damiion666
@damiion666 4 жыл бұрын
firebird_SPLEEN no one gives a shit, still a good flick
@chrispena4582
@chrispena4582 3 жыл бұрын
Love that movie
@babycharliebrown
@babycharliebrown 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing like either?!? Some people see BK in every old tintype. Very questionable !!
@MegaBIGJOE64
@MegaBIGJOE64 6 жыл бұрын
Pat Garrett killed Billy the kid ??? Any solid proof ? NOPE Just Garret's words. They where friends, that's why they may be in this picture.
@MegaBIGJOE64
@MegaBIGJOE64 6 жыл бұрын
It's obviously a "switcheroo" : all the peoples involved were his friends, in a town where he was a hero and "killed" by his well known friend... I've always suspected Billy had just faked his death.
@tomwigal8856
@tomwigal8856 3 жыл бұрын
The first question you have to ask is anybody in that picture 425 inch taller than the the last because Pat Garrett was 6 foot 4
@rayantrim8718
@rayantrim8718 4 жыл бұрын
Pat and Billy were friends before Pat became a Sheriff!
@cbr600rrturbo
@cbr600rrturbo 6 жыл бұрын
Nope
@canaimaxx1
@canaimaxx1 6 жыл бұрын
those are neither Pat Garrett nor Billy The Kid.
@zodiac890
@zodiac890 6 жыл бұрын
if i had a billion dollars i would not spend a dime on this picture i dont belive its ligit
@89bayarearaised
@89bayarearaised 2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty simple on why they’re in the same pic months before he arrest him….. it was all a front. Pat was never going to give up his pal Billy and the whole arrest and escape was a set up. Pat wanted the reward money and Billy was never really gonna be arrested but just went along with it. Proof is how did Billy get a hold of a gun for the great escape? Someone left a gun for him in the back house (bathroom) I wonder who? (Pat) and Billy never was never killed by Pat. The body was never viewed which they always did back in the days with every outlaw except in Billy’s case.
@jimjam1719
@jimjam1719 6 жыл бұрын
i dunno who or what they are thinking,,,,,, but that is not billy,,,,,, doesn't even come close to looking like him. NOTHING!!!
@billywolfgang4640
@billywolfgang4640 6 жыл бұрын
I never mentioned this before what good would it do right?
@joshct9426
@joshct9426 5 сағат бұрын
What a story wow! If youtube lasts forever this video will be watched forever because Billy The Kid will be known forever
@paulmorgan4369
@paulmorgan4369 4 жыл бұрын
Impossible to tell with a blurred photo so your photographic experts aren't up to much. Show the evidence.
@Tide12NC
@Tide12NC 6 жыл бұрын
I’d have to take some money to the guy I bought it off of. Make his day too. As far as the photo, it’s no surprise. Billy and Pat were more than friends. Pat killed a Billy, but not the Billy. Watch the documentary from the Spanish man who has family ties. They’ve always said it. That’s why the other guy was buried so fast. Then Billy the Kids horse and gear was gone the day after, while the dead Billy’s was never claimed.
@armymomheatherc
@armymomheatherc 2 жыл бұрын
Facts are nasty truths. I agree. Then we have Garretts own daughter in 1983 stating as fact, her Daddy told her he never killed the Kid that day.According 2 her, it was just a well known thing in her inner circle. It was something she knew was never 2 be talked about.
@williamarchibald1378
@williamarchibald1378 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like nothing like him
@adrian72300
@adrian72300 4 жыл бұрын
@Luka doncic is better than lebron james They should've left it as a picture of Pat Garrett which still would be a great find, but to say that's the "kid" takes away from the picture, because the person they say is Billy looks nothing like the other picture presented to be Billy the Kid
@adrian72300
@adrian72300 4 жыл бұрын
@Luka doncic is better than lebron james Hey, if it's been authenticated then it sure is, that's all that matters
@petehiggins75
@petehiggins75 2 жыл бұрын
Who are the other 2 in the picture
@robertbunnell5932
@robertbunnell5932 5 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert, but that doesn't look nothing like Billy the kid. The kid had a crooked jaw, he also had slanted eyes. However I think it's possible the guy to our right could be Pat Garrett in his younger days.
@DonkeyStomper
@DonkeyStomper 3 жыл бұрын
Garrett may have rustled cattle with Billy following the Kid's escape from the Lincoln County jail in 1879. Billy went on a rustling tear after that, hitting the big ranchers in the Texas Panhandle hard enough for them to hire men to go after him and their cattle. Unlike the guys in this photo, Garrett likely took part in a few of those raids.
@33baugh
@33baugh Жыл бұрын
Put it in a museum!! That where it belongs. If you have to charge 10 bucks a person so be it. Awesome find !!
@jeffclemmer2103
@jeffclemmer2103 3 жыл бұрын
Priceless.....so is this story! Awesome.
@5thcorps
@5thcorps 6 жыл бұрын
NOT Billy
@stx38
@stx38 6 жыл бұрын
'Billy' looks too old for a 20 year old.
@gabriellesparks1570
@gabriellesparks1570 6 жыл бұрын
That may be Garret but that IS NOT Billy The Kid. Looks nothing like the other 2 authenticated photos
@elrondo7953
@elrondo7953 6 жыл бұрын
I did an overlay in photoshoppe and it is without a doubt Billy the kid. The match is identical.
@williamarchibald1378
@williamarchibald1378 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I don't believe you
@graemewilliams1308
@graemewilliams1308 6 жыл бұрын
It's not Billy.
@peacefulwarrior4078
@peacefulwarrior4078 6 жыл бұрын
millions of dollars says your wrong !!
@graemewilliams1308
@graemewilliams1308 6 жыл бұрын
Hard to prove one way or the other without solid provenance. In the end it's only someone's opinion. Outlaws generally were pretty shy about having photos done.
@Shinobi33
@Shinobi33 6 жыл бұрын
That's nuts! What a find
@wilzyk1161
@wilzyk1161 6 жыл бұрын
it looks NOTHING like BIlly the Kid. I wonder who this guy paid off to verify this scam.
@necromancer234
@necromancer234 3 жыл бұрын
how do we know that the other fotos are really him ????? Scam started earlier?
@gaddyify
@gaddyify 3 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't look like him?????
@RestrainingHollywood
@RestrainingHollywood 4 жыл бұрын
"Make ya' Famous"
@chrisjaybecker
@chrisjaybecker 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Rudabaugh was a thief, killer, and a sometimes-lawman who partnered with Mysterious Dave Mather, was hunted by Wyatt Earp, was involved in the Lincoln County War with Billy, and later was a member of the Clanton gang in Tombstone. When he got himself killed in Mexico, the villagers ran around with his decapitated head on cavalry sword.
@kerrylangman214
@kerrylangman214 5 ай бұрын
The man showing off his pistol is Carl Polk - part of the posse that caught BTK....Polk would eventually shoot himself dead cleaning a pistol : the date should be January 1881 Las Vegas NM...
@delarocha4135
@delarocha4135 2 жыл бұрын
Go watch the movie "Old Henry" just came out this year 2021. Awesome movie about William H. Bonnie, Henry McCarty, Billy the Kid
@ioccatonyz1
@ioccatonyz1 5 жыл бұрын
I question these so-called "experts" because I have eyes. Here is my criteria; ALL facial feature need to match the tintype photo. In this picture, the noses do not match. The tintype Billy's nose is longer and thinner Along with the jaws not matching either. Unless you want to argue that the tintype is not the real Billy the Kid. The croquet picture is the closest match but the face is blurred and the ears do not come close of matching. These experts have failed to convince me along with others of a "match." If you have a Billy the Kid hat, you can be mistaken as Billy the Kid...
@jamesd5888
@jamesd5888 4 жыл бұрын
I would give $20.00 for it. NO ONE can prove it is Billy the Kid.
@andrespagan9122
@andrespagan9122 6 жыл бұрын
NOOOOO wAYYYYYY.thats not billy
@Iamrightyouarewrong
@Iamrightyouarewrong 6 жыл бұрын
Pat Garret never killed Billy. He lied!
@agenaw2877
@agenaw2877 6 жыл бұрын
I'm right you're wrong I totally agree
@treatb09
@treatb09 6 жыл бұрын
well, if that is a photo of them, then it is evidence to support that.
@kevinjohnston6300
@kevinjohnston6300 5 жыл бұрын
Yup also billy is buried in Texas
@agenaw2877
@agenaw2877 5 жыл бұрын
I know several years ago there were relatives of the guy in Texas who was saying he was Billy the Kid that was wanting a DNA test done with that guy, the guy who's buried in Billy the Kid's grave and Billy's mother and New Mexico's Governor refused to allow them to dig up the body that's buried in Billy the Kid's grave to have those DNA test done. Because they know that that's not Billy in there if there's even a body in there at all
@kevinjohnston6300
@kevinjohnston6300 5 жыл бұрын
@@agenaw2877 yeah that's why they'd said his body may of been washed out in a flash flood. But Pat didn't kill him.
@joekoski1080
@joekoski1080 2 жыл бұрын
Billy the kid was the first, "tin-type," model. Lmao
@alshalakaed857
@alshalakaed857 6 жыл бұрын
Man that's freaking awesome
@fireblaze1419
@fireblaze1419 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. There are 5 men in the photo . Which one is Pat Garrett and which is Billy the Kid .
@tedgrowney8981
@tedgrowney8981 4 ай бұрын
Garrett is easily recognizable as the man on the right. As far as Billy, allegedly on the second from the left, that's another story.
@TheHaratashi
@TheHaratashi 5 жыл бұрын
Well for one thing that's not Pat - he was never that skinny, and none of them look anything like Billy. Total BS.
@zodiac890
@zodiac890 6 жыл бұрын
for the picture to last this long its hard to beleive
@HauntedByHeroesX
@HauntedByHeroesX 2 жыл бұрын
It's tin metal, not paper. I hope that helps.
@stanpratt6546
@stanpratt6546 6 жыл бұрын
In another year or two Billy will be the most photographed person in the old west. I do hope it is authentic though.
@importpappa
@importpappa 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched "Kid" on Netflix, it was very interesting.
@gamerwmcg
@gamerwmcg 5 жыл бұрын
four of my six photos are in colour and in one of the photos it looks like he's on his mobile phone
@sotis1756
@sotis1756 6 жыл бұрын
Damn i wish i was alive back then such cool people back then
@jasongrooming36
@jasongrooming36 6 жыл бұрын
Looks nothing like the pictures I’ve seen of billy it go ahead and make something out of nothing.
@harryjames3905
@harryjames3905 4 жыл бұрын
Damn!!! Who are the other two guys???
@mikehood3424
@mikehood3424 6 жыл бұрын
2) Reclaiming Texas History (?) William H. Bonney = Billy the Kid = Brushy Bill Roberts - Brushy Bill told William V. Morrison that he was born in Buffalo Gap, Taylor County, Texas, 31 December 1859. Brushy Bill said his father was "Wild Henry" Roberts and his mother was Mary Adeline Dunn. Buffalo Gap is an incorporated town in Taylor County, Texas, United States. It is part of the Abilene, Texas Metropolitan Statistical Area. The population was 464 at the 2010 census. It is the former county seat of Taylor County, having been supplanted in 1883 by the much larger Abilene to its north. Abilene won the referendum to be the county seat by a vote of 905-269. Billy the Kid died in Hico, Texas, on December 27,1950 as a result of a heart attack. He is buried on Highway 281 North in Hamilton, Texas. Billy the Kid did kill some people, but most certainly, not 21 men as written in Billy-the-Kid-mythology.
@brianpeck4035
@brianpeck4035 6 жыл бұрын
Brushy Bill is a proven impersonator- Theres a pic of him with a friend pretending to be one of the James gang earlier in his career- he has been debunked. He could never write well in all his years- comparable to a five year old- while Kid Antrum (william Bonnie) had a known ability to write well. Theres a lot more that doesn't add up. I am related to the Woodson family in which Jesse W. James was as well. Very distantly related. No pride there as he was a murderer with no defense. But then again I haven't walked a mile in his shoes- and glad of it.
@5thcorps
@5thcorps 6 жыл бұрын
Nope
@sotis1756
@sotis1756 6 жыл бұрын
Thats why i love Young Guns 2
@Jameslfgsmith
@Jameslfgsmith 6 жыл бұрын
Correct
@Jameslfgsmith
@Jameslfgsmith 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Peck so wrong! Brushy is Billy the Kid
@realdealnealcrook8940
@realdealnealcrook8940 3 жыл бұрын
Is that Doc Scurllock on the far right or Charlie Bowdrie?
@brenitia
@brenitia 3 жыл бұрын
Here's who I think is in the picture from left to right: Charlie Bowdrie Ab Saunders George Coe Either Jose Chavez Y Chavez or Frank Coe Pat Garrett
@jrgarza1964
@jrgarza1964 2 жыл бұрын
Good guess, but to me, far left is Arkansas dave, back left Charlie, middle is Chavez. Dark face right is dirt face Steve, and to your far right is doc. That's what it looks like in my perspective. This was the regulators before they met Billy the kid. What do you think?
@kerrylangman214
@kerrylangman214 5 ай бұрын
Pat - Frank Stewart - Barnie Mason -BTK -Carl Polk (with the pistol)
@prospectort5454
@prospectort5454 6 жыл бұрын
This is not Billy The Kid nor Pat Garret. That looks more like Jesse and Frank James along with The Younger Brothers, and Robert Ford. Their "Expert" needs to have his eyes checked!!!
@MrAndycm
@MrAndycm 6 жыл бұрын
Give the picture to a museum.
@worldobserver3515
@worldobserver3515 6 жыл бұрын
Getting really sick of every old picture being touted as an Old West figure.
@shutuplige6524
@shutuplige6524 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of like every small town in America has a "welcome to Historic blah blah blah"
@marmadukewinterbotham2599
@marmadukewinterbotham2599 2 жыл бұрын
"Eerily similar" is not the word I'd use I'm afraid.
@zyxmyk
@zyxmyk 6 жыл бұрын
these knuckeheads never explained who was who in the photo! I had to go watch a completely different broadcast to figure out what they were talking about. Nice journalism.
@kevinjohnston6300
@kevinjohnston6300 5 жыл бұрын
Very true. Priceless.
@mikehood3424
@mikehood3424 6 жыл бұрын
4) Seven Rivers Warriors - Lincoln County War en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Rivers_Warriors
@billofrightsamend4
@billofrightsamend4 Жыл бұрын
He looks more like Doc Holliday than Pat Garrett. First looking at it I thought it was Garrett also, but sorry that is not Pat Garrett. I get the two confused. They look similar Garrett and Holliday.
@thescandinavian2487
@thescandinavian2487 6 жыл бұрын
Good for him !
@timmunroe4873
@timmunroe4873 6 жыл бұрын
Hard to say, if it's BIlly or not but him and Garret were friends that's a known fact and if thats Dirty Dave, then it would make sense , that Billy may be in that photo! Even so say that isn't Billy, historically it's interesting, in the fact Garret and Dirty Dave did not like one another much! something to think about would they hang out together without Billy?!
@Lone_wolfe68
@Lone_wolfe68 Жыл бұрын
Pat garret was sitting down billy was standing geeze people
@kerrylangman214
@kerrylangman214 5 ай бұрын
Billy's holding an empty bottle up side down and has chains over his shoulders...
@robertbigelow1338
@robertbigelow1338 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Garrett sold Billy out, was paid to take him out, a hit job
@MechEngin3er26
@MechEngin3er26 6 жыл бұрын
So now im guessing the liberties taken by the movie Young Guns 2 wasn't so farfetched after all!
@rousefire
@rousefire 6 жыл бұрын
I dont see the similarity .
@chiefcuningcoyote4906
@chiefcuningcoyote4906 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Red dead redemption storyline
@DrewSohl
@DrewSohl 5 жыл бұрын
No mystery about Pat Garrett being in photo.He ran with The Regulators which was Billy's gang.Common western history.
@dianheffernan2435
@dianheffernan2435 2 жыл бұрын
How'd they afford stetson hats?
@simon.jacobs.0709
@simon.jacobs.0709 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the poor bastard who sold it for $10.
@YorkyOne
@YorkyOne 3 жыл бұрын
Only if it sells for $11.
@ningishzidduofnibiru286
@ningishzidduofnibiru286 3 жыл бұрын
The croquet picture is though
@Rxmzy
@Rxmzy 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people have eyes of bats. Thats not him!
@tangoalfa1970
@tangoalfa1970 6 жыл бұрын
OMG have you not seen Young Guns 2?
@cowboy4488
@cowboy4488 6 жыл бұрын
The one playing that game is billy but that’s not billy with garret and Garrett didn’t kill billy it was staged watch documentaries and look up all the evidence and then look up brushy billy Roberts that was one of billy the kids names he went by and a old dude in south Texas had that name in the early 1900s he had same scars as billy his story was correct and he still wanted a pardon for his crimes
@user-sb1vz9pv5y
@user-sb1vz9pv5y 6 жыл бұрын
Roberts is a fake. Claimed to be part of the James gang as well.
@flashinthepan3273
@flashinthepan3273 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah, we've all seen Young Guns 2.
@tomwigal8856
@tomwigal8856 5 жыл бұрын
They took Brushy Bill Roberts picture and Billy the Kid's pictures to a facial expert and there's no way but we would have looked like that when he got older Roberts ears with two high on the face and the cheekbone doesn't line up Brushy Bill Roberts was not Billy the Kid sorry
@danielblackburn1241
@danielblackburn1241 Жыл бұрын
Explain how BRUSHY Told he was shot in the jaw in a shootout with Garrett and his deputies the night Billy was supposed to be killed . He never had a scar on his jaw ? Don't you reckon a .45 wouldn't leave your jaw abit messed up ! He was telling stories . He wasn't Billy and was really only about 3 years old when Billy was shot . He lied about his date of birth . Stop wishing for something that isn't even true.
@johndougherty7033
@johndougherty7033 4 жыл бұрын
Fake news ..he buys it then puts a price tag on it.
@gabrielh687
@gabrielh687 6 жыл бұрын
GARRETS PLACE!!!
@rongermanjr
@rongermanjr 6 жыл бұрын
no way. that photo is fake. lousy cut n paste job.
@pierreaucoin2480
@pierreaucoin2480 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, not him. wasn’t there another pic of him playing cards wearing a top hat as well?
@jrgarza1964
@jrgarza1964 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like Billy the kids Gang.. and that is extremely rare. All the way to the right that is Doc.. right next to him is dirty face Steve. On your way left is Arkansas dave. And next to him is Charley. And in the middle is Chavez.. he was known to wear hats like that... but Billy is not in this pic.. this was before they met Billy.
@J.D.Vision
@J.D.Vision 6 жыл бұрын
That picture is not even worth $1.
@QumranTaj
@QumranTaj 6 жыл бұрын
This looks photoshopped... the figure on the far right looks too large as if he is standing closer to the camera, but it looks as if he is standing BEHIND the man to his right. Also, none of these men looks like Billy to me.
@okayboozy
@okayboozy 5 жыл бұрын
Hes sitting front of him, you can see his legs and shoulder
@mavica130
@mavica130 6 жыл бұрын
not btk
@1mykalfury
@1mykalfury 6 жыл бұрын
Billy is the one with the gun far left, not the guy in between. The guy far left matches face recognition.
@steverodriguez4871
@steverodriguez4871 3 жыл бұрын
They were friends at Garrett didn’t kill him to let him get away
@ccmccorkle1974
@ccmccorkle1974 3 жыл бұрын
Garret used to ride with Billy. This pic was before he accepted Sheriff!
@joysnake3104
@joysnake3104 6 жыл бұрын
Won’t put a price on it, what not even for insurance purposes
@agenaw2877
@agenaw2877 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear who all is suppose to be this picture?
@hcoptertx
@hcoptertx 5 жыл бұрын
KZbin critics say no but it looks just like him
@danielblackburn1241
@danielblackburn1241 2 ай бұрын
Nothing like him
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